Brendan Carr Says Networks Must Serve the 'Public Interest.' What Does That Mean?
Congress placed the term in the law but chose not to define it, leaving that task for future regulators.
On his ABC late-night show last Monday, Jimmy Kimmel criticized President Donald Trump and his followers for their actions since Charlie Kirk's murder. Within days, Kimmel's show was suspended, after Federal Communications Commission (FCC) Chairman Brendan Carr publicly threatened reprisal. (Kimmel's show is set to return to the air Tuesday.)
The entire affair was blatantly improper, as a federal official leaned on a private company to censor an employee's protected speech. Carr, meanwhile, says he's just pursuing the "public interest." What does that actually mean? Just about anything a regulator wants, it turns out.
Unlike other forms of media, radio and network TV stations broadcast over public airwaves, which the FCC polices by issuing broadcast licenses. Federal law authorizes the FCC to ensure licensees serve "the public interest, convenience, and necessity."
"Generally, this means [a broadcaster] must air programming that is responsive to the needs and problems of its local community of license," the FCC claims.
Carr often cites the "public interest" as his goal for FCC actions. "Broadcast media have had the privilege of using a scarce and valuable public resource—our airwaves. In turn, they are required by law to operate in the public interest," he wrote in November 2024, the day after Trump announced he would appoint Carr to head the agency. "When the transition is complete, the FCC will enforce this public interest obligation."
In his current role, Carr has evoked the "public interest" to justify numerous FCC actions—including investigations of Comcast's relationship with NBC affiliates and a San Francisco radio station's coverage of immigration enforcement in San Jose, and accusing NBC of "news distortion" for its coverage of an immigration case.
"One thing that we're trying to do is to empower those local stations to serve their own communities," Carr told conservative podcaster Benny Johnson last week. "And the public interest means you can't be running a narrow partisan circus and still meeting your public interest obligations."
Who's to say if Carr's actions are in those local communities' best interest? Law and judicial precedent actually give him some pretty considerable leeway.
"Perhaps no single area of communications policy has generated as much scholarly discourse, judicial analysis, and political debate over the course of the last seventy years as has that simple directive to regulate in the 'public interest,'" Erwin G. Krasnow and Jack N. Goodman wrote in a 1998 article for the Federal Communications Law Journal, a publication of Indiana University's Maurer School of Law. "If the history of this elusive regulatory standard makes anything clear, it is the fact that just what constitutes service in the 'public interest' has encompassed different things at different times."
Congress first included the phrase "public interest, convenience, and necessity" in the Radio Act of 1927, but did not define it—leaving it for future regulators to interpret. "Our opinions have repeatedly emphasized that the [FCC]'s judgment regarding how the public interest is best served is entitled to substantial judicial deference," the U.S. Supreme Court wrote in 1981's FCC v. WNCN Listeners Guild. Subsequent legislation expanded the government's regulatory power but largely kept the "public interest" standard intact.
"Few independent regulatory commissions have had to operate under such a broad grant of power with so few substantive guidelines," Krasnow and Goodman wrote.
One would imagine the "public interest" is best served by respecting the First Amendment and defending free speech. "The FCC has long held that 'the public interest is best served by permitting free expression of views,'" according to the agency's website. "Rather than suppress speech, communications law and policy seeks to encourage responsive 'counter-speech' from others. Following this principle ensures that the most diverse and opposing opinions will be expressed, even though some views or expressions may be highly offensive."
But that would directly contradict Carr's actions: Over the past week, Carr not only pressured a broadcaster to punish one of its hosts over intemperate comments, he gloated over the host's suspension and pledged daytime chat show The View might be next in his crosshairs.
The "public interest standard" is in fact "not really a standard because it doesn't tell you what they can't do," Thomas W. Hazlett, an economics professor at Clemson University, tells Reason. "There is some formal structure to the process, but in terms of an actual regulatory standard, it basically means that we're going to make rules according to what we think is right. And of course, if you want to do things that are different and exercise power in a certain direction, you'll talk a lot about public interest because it's a very wide berth for justifying what you're trying to do. It does dress it up a little bit, that it's not just politics, it's bigger than that, but not really: It's what the five members of the commission vote to do, and that's the beginning and the end."
As Reason's Robby Soave noted, one person who understood this was Ayn Rand, who wrote in 1962 that a government-enforced public interest standard was simply a more sophisticated form of censorship, "for stifling the freedom of men's minds."
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Brendan Carr Says Networks Must Serve the 'Public Interest.' What Does That Mean?
It means whatever it meant when the FCC was created.
Literally part of the 1934 law.
https://govinfo.library.unt.edu/piac/novmtg/pubint.htm
Which courts have interpreted to mean non partisan one sided presentations. Carr has noted Kimmels politico guests are near exclusively democrats.
Fairly sure, though, that most of the regulations end at 10P every night. Late night does not tend to have those requirements.
...now, the View could be fun to deal with.
Thought I read Kimmel is classified as news.
Same reasons as The View, to help shield his jokes and comments.
Yeah, the View definitely is, officially, a news show.
Sadly, not much worse than the "real" network news shows.
I believe it was also part of the 1927 law.
It really means the "government's interest".
Imagine the last thing you hear before you go under for bypass surgery is your surgeon saying "I understand the AMA has advised other doctors that they should clear their patients' arteries in situations like this, but what does that mean?"
Do no harm... speak the truth... uphold the law... serve the public trust... phbbt. Abstractions, man!
Carr also noted democrats calling to break up Sinclair for not airing kimmel. Any thoughts on this reason?
https://x.com/BrendanCarrFCC/status/1970466563271623139
Crickets.
A Lancaster always pays his debts…to team blue narratives.
Is OAN backing that again, too?
And the Hair was against.
https://reason.com/2021/11/19/tsa-20th-birthday-abolish-airport-security-terror/
On his ABC late-night show last Monday, Jimmy Kimmel criticized President Donald Trump and his followers for their actions since Charlie Kirk's murder.
Is this what happened? Really?
Nope.
He said that the shooter was part of MAGA.
Reason will permanently deny that lies are not, in fact, fully protected by 1A.
But is it a lie ? Is he MAGA or not ? Lots of speculation from the peanut gallery based on random data, zero confessions from the source.
Lol. Parody.
He was fucking a furry/trannie, said he hated Kirk, and needed Kirk silenced. This sounds like a DNC convention.
As the new saying says: Last year, we saw how much the Left celebrated the idea of the President dying.
THIS year, we saw how much the Left would celebrate the idea of US dying.
Yep. And when the first SD events happen, they will treat the victim like they treated Rittenhouse.
Some antifa will get shot hurling a Molotov and the left will defend it.
There is, literally, zero evidence of anything remotely right-wing about him, much less MAGA.
I can say that comfortably because a)I have followed the story and b) no fucking progs have provided the tiniest sliver of an iota of evidence.
Now, go cite the substack all of you braindead chucklefucks reference when discussing this myth.
Do you need a “Not MAGA” membership card?
Must be notarized or it doesn't count.
If you're not a commie or sexual predator then you're MAGA I guess. Is anyone aware of another option?
As I have said several times the shooter hated fascists as evidenced by his ammo inscriptions.
That puts him somewhere left of center.
And Fatass Donnie told the lie of the year today when he said he has ended SEVEN wars.
He outdid himself today. Of course it was the UN so who cares?
https://psychcentral.com/disorders/treating-pedophilia#aversion-therapy
I’m just keeping it real, Chumface.
https://psychcentral.com/disorders/treating-pedophilia#aversion-therapy
What happened to your original account, Shrike?
https://www.canada.ca/en/health-canada/services/health-services-benefits/medical-assistance-dying.html
""OREM, Utah — Tyler Robinson’s mother told investigators she had watched her son change dramatically in the year leading up to the Utah college shooting of Turning Point USA founder Charlie Kirk.
Once a college scholarship recipient with a promising future, Robinson had "become more political," leaning left and supporting "pro-gay and trans rights," his mother said, according to court documents.
She also recounted heated arguments between Robinson and his father, who held sharply different views and regularly sparred over their competing ideologies.""
https://www.foxnews.com/us/mom-charlie-kirk-alleged-assassin-describes-radical-shift-last-year-more-pro-gay-trans-rights?msockid=10a4843f60fb697f343292766174681b
On this issue, and physically, jeff won’t budge.
Need butter, and a crowbar. Possibly the Jaws of Life.
Seriously? If you're here to make .50 an hour, this sort of hyperbolic stupidity isn't going to get you much traction. Now earn you pay, bitch.
Announcer’s voice
And out of nowhere Liberty_Belle comes around the post hot on the heels of MollyGodiva who’s had a sizable lead for a while now. In a distant third is shrike, but he still has time to post some gains.
Nope. He said that MAGA were trying to claim he wasn't.
They cant help themselves.
No they cannot. It does make for some entertaining shorts, like Ilhan Omar being introduced to a crowd of supporters by being told she isn't for Minneapolis, she isn't for MN, "and not in the people of America, but in the Somalian people and Somalia."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ldx3QSZ8ucM
Kimmel's show was suspended, after Federal Communications Commission (FCC) Chairman Brendan Carr publicly threatened reprisal.
Wrong. The timeline shows the suspension was already in motion by the time Carr jabbered. Carr was an idiot to say that, but he did not cause the suspension, and it's the law which gives the FCC, and by extension Carr, the job of deciding what's in the "public interest", and has been since 1927.
How about a little libertarian "less government" slant, eh? Ever heard of that?
There's also precisely zero evidence that the FCC did anything. Kimmel coming back this quickly demonstrates that definitively.
There was precisely zero evidence that the Biden administration was threatening Twitter. Until there wasn't.
Most Libertarian comment ever.
Google admits censorship under Biden.
""Following a years-long investigation by the House Judiciary Committee, the tech giant acknowledges that pressure from the White House was "unacceptable and wrong" and will offer thousands of previously banned creators an opportunity to return to the YouTube platform.""
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/google-admits-censorship-under-biden-admin-promises-to-end-free-speech-bans/ar-AA1N9hwW?ocid=msedgntp&pc=DCTS&cvid=68d2d571a76842aeaf2130630735f879&ei=34
It's not a problem. Google is a private company free to do whatever Biden told them to do.
There’s no evidence that you sodomized your daughter nightly until she was taken away from you. So based on you logic, I can assume that you did, right Drunky?
The TDS sufferers can never change their first impressions of a story. Why almost half of democrats think Robinson was right wing.
Sarc wants to believe.
It’s a good lie for the democrats to keep their kook base wound up. So'e cunt from PMS NOW was in Maher’s panel pushing that. Neither Maher nor Joe Manchin corrected her.
Yeah, this whole thing is a fascinating study in ass-covering by everyone involved. The networks have been looking to cancel many of these shows for a long, long time. The model simply doesn't work any more. These late night TV shows costs tens of millions to produce and now get the same or lower viewership than a mid-level youtuber who spends tens of dollars per episode.
As far as a 'less government' slant, it has been well established that the reason our legal broadcasts (like legalized drugs) are safer is because the fcc helps us know "what's in them".
Thing is, the model works fine and dandy.
The hosts, however, cannot actually DO the model.
Correctamundo.
“How about a little libertarian "less government" slant, eh? Ever heard of that?”
Thank you!
a week later you writers have nothing admitted into evidence.
They key difference between you guys and Reason is that Reason changes their minds based upon new information, while if evidence is unearthed you guys will continue to defend Trump.
FaCtS cHaNgE!
Drink!
Nope. You’re too stupid to think. So just focus on binge drinking, and accelerate your eventual liver failure.
Might this be the time to decide that over the air broadcasting is not needed?
Restrict the spectrum to personal communications; cell phones, 2-way radios, police and fire and the like. The military can keep their parts.
Then we can DOGE the FCC and reduce the debt by 0.000001 percent.
OTA broadcasting is back on the upswing using new technology. So I wouldn’t eliminate it.
[tilts hand]
The upswing in technology and adoption was part and parcel to the push to restructure and auction off the bandwidth. Like putting on a garage sale to clear out your garage, discovering the old bike or golf clubs that you haven't used in 20 yrs. and declaring that golfing/biking is making a resurgence.
Broadcast TV does not have 1st amendment rights.
Standards and practices.
George Carlin and the 7 words you can't say on TV.
Chappelle had a bit about this in one of his standups from when the Chappelle Show was on.
He would get called to Standards and Practices almost every week about his content. For one show they forbid him to say fag. He asked why can I say nigger all day log but I can't say the word fag. The S&P woman said you can't say it because you are not one of them. Chappelle replies, well I'm not a nigger either.
The South Park movie was over the friggin top because they could do things in a rated R movie they could not do on Comedy Central.
Like it or not. Kimmel's suspension was not a 1st amendment issue.
But there is a lot of people out there outraged that Kimmel got suspended for what he said that thinks killing Kirk for his speech was ok. But Kirk was saying bad things that's why he got shot.
The left's enemy killed over free speech is ok, but their TV darling being suspended is a bridge too far.
For a while there was an "equal time" doctrine that seemed to promote opposing views, although it was pretty limited in the actual performance to campaign messaging during election years.
This would be the perfect opportunity for the Supreme Court to strike down the "public interest" portion of the law as unconstitutionally broad and vague.
When Carr stated "the networks must serve the people's interests", he really meant, the networks must serve the government's interests.
The destruction of the First Amendment begins by outlawing flag burning which is just fine with low IQ, uneducated people who fail to see the implications. Soon, it will be any criticism of Israel, then, it will be any criticism of the government. The ultimate goal is total repression and absolute control by a dictatorship that closely resembles that which George Orwell predicted in the book, 1984. The book was written as a warning to all concerning how governments eventually become so tyrannical that people living under such fear for their lives every day.
Unfortunately, criticism of covid being outlawed and J6 protesters being treated like Al Queda set a dangerous standard.
Burn flags, Korans, and rainbow cult propaganda to your heart’s desire as long as you own it and it occurs on your private property. Carr should have stayed silent and let it play out as it had with livid affiliates pulling his poor performing show from their stations. Now the double digit IQ crowd has something to chortle about, even if they mostly will continue to eschew watching Kimmel.
"Carr should have stayed silent"
The main problem for power-hungry officials is to keep yourself in the public eye. You cannot achieve press coverage by staying silent and letting things play themselves out. One must be seen to be aggressively protecting your constituency at all times, even if it's just for show.
Yeah the dems and rinos no longer in power that keep trying to inject themselves wherever and whenever they can to attempt to stay relevant are a problem.
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Congress first included the phrase "public interest, convenience, and necessity" in the Radio Act of 1927, but did not define it
Right, because that was boilerplate language that had wide use in cases where government allowed access by a private entity, usually as a monopoly, to some hitherto unassigned resource. So for instance to dam a stream and operate a mill, or to build and operate a turnpike, or to issue currency in the sovereign's name.
Very far from the truth. Look at all the state Public Service Commissions (Public Utility Commissions). Or look abroad.
I found it incredibly amusing how he stated in the start of the 2nd paragraph that "The entire affair was blatantly improper,..." and then spent the next dozen or so paragraphs explaining all the reasons why it might not be so blatantly improper after all and that Carr might have both law and judicial precedent on his side.
Not to get it twisted, it SHOULD be blatantly improper. I definitely wish is was blatantly improper. I am not sure sure what it is exactly, but it is most certainly less than blatant.
Until SCOTUS overrules its prior anti-speech precedents like Red Lion, Carr is well within his power to investigate and attempt to enforce the FCCs rules as per mid 1900 societal values. We still live with this regime because it rarely gets challenged, maybe this will be the catalyst to gut the FCCs power.
Is there any concern that Tylenol does cause Autism and ADHD?
https://hsph.harvard.edu/news/using-acetaminophen-during-pregnancy-may-increase-childrens-autism-and-adhd-risk/
https://www.nih.gov/news-events/news-releases/nih-funded-study-suggests-acetaminophen-exposure-pregnancy-linked-higher-risk-adhd-autism
I think both articles mention more study needs to be done. But it's not Trump pulling this out of his ass like some people want to believe.
Well discussed in the morning round up. Highlighted the TDS sufferers again.
"Congress placed the term in the law but chose not to define it, leaving that task for future regulators."
1. How pathetic Congress is.
They make a law and then do not define the terms they enacted.
2. Another reason to terminate the FCC.
Leaving decisions to over-paid, under-worked bureaucrats is never a good idea.
I see this thing the same way Michael Malice describes "McCarthyism".
"McCarthyism was the first and only time the Left ever got canceled, and to this day, they act as if it was the darkest time in American history."
HUAC was originally established to investigate Nazis and fascists.
The FCC does not serve a valid purpose anymore. At least not enough of a purpose to warrant an agency. Perhaps a person dedicated to the minuscule broadcast waves in the flood of streaming.
Jimmy Kimmel deserves to lose his show simply because he is not funny nor entertaining anymore, and has become a burden to the viewers and to ABC and Disney's bottom line.
Out of all the federal agencies one could ax, the FCC should be among the very last to go. Horrible mission creep? Absolutely! Could it use a severe DOGEing? You Betcha! But getting rid of it? A horrible, no good, awful idea.
There is a reason that every county in the world has some version of the FCC. And even those that don't all rely on neighboring counties for it. Electronics as we know it would no longer function as we have grown accustomed to.
Every electronic device broadcasts a signal. For those old enough to remember, microwave used to be a horrible source of signal pollution that often cause static on things like portal phones and could cause issues with people's pace makers. Early cell phones often interfered with medical equipment and car radios. Some early plasma (iirc) TVs with cheap circuit boards were known to pollute various maritime emergency frequencies. CB, when boosted enough, is known to skip to and pollute frequencies that are used by the US military.
It is the FCC that controls and puts a stop to these things.
It is the reason why when you make a cell phone call, competing networks don't step all over your signal. Why your neighbor's wifi router doesn't blast and drown out your wifi signal. Why radio stations don't blast their signal overtop of each other. Why your microwave doesn't cause your TV to go wonky. And the list goes on and on and on...
It is the FCC that makes sure everything stays in its lane.
Remember that the next time your on a plane. It is the FCC that makes sure that some asshole's cheap Chinese no-brand karaoke machine isn't causing interference between your pilot and ground control as they are trying to land.
Brendan Carr is just another one of Trump's Authoritarian Toadies. He doesn't seem to understand the First Amendment and a couple hundred years of judicial decisions clarifying the primacy of Free Speech. A good, solid understanding of the First Amendment is, in my opinion, a necessary prerequisite to head the FCC. Carr doesn't have that, and he should resign.
Apparently you didn't read the article.
To be fair…
Didn't read most of this but the takeaway seems to be that Carr is acting entirely within his legal authority. Joe doesn't like that but instead of attacking the authority he attacks the guy exercising that authority. Doesn't work that way which makes the article just another Reason leftist screed. And I'm getting really tired of repeating this but for years Reason took the position that government jawboning, as they like to call it, was no problem. Then years later Robby woke up one magical morning and saw the Twitter files and was all like, wait??!!? what!???. I know you're kinda new around here Joe but you have to be aware that Reason abandoned any credibility on this issue a long time ago and if you persist on this beat you're only making an ass of yourself.
Don't forget that the FCC once revoked all Alabama Educational TV channels' licenses because of their racially-disparate hiring and programming decisions.
The definition of "in the public interest" is certainly broad enough to mean behavior that stimulates or encourages public anger in a biassed manner. And some of the Sinclair licensees may well believe that their individual broadcast footprint sees the airing of Kimmel's show as qualifying at least temporarily.
But it pays to recall that the FCC's refusing to renew a broadcast license requires great lengths of time, and a great deal of formal events and processes. It does not lend itself to responding to transitory or inadvertent upsets.
Brendan Carr Says Networks Must Serve the 'Public Interest.' What Does That Mean?
Probably something along the lines of "Protection for private blocking and screening of offensive material" you dumb fuck.
"Jawboning" can't be an archaic, outdated, and obtuse inferred practice on the one hand and a modern keystone to free speech and technology as enshrined in the law on the other.
Unless, of course you don't actually give a shit about free speech or the law and it's just about calling for red wedding celebrations when your side is doing the jawboning and then crying "Not fair! My 1A!" when the other side is doing it.
Citing a meme posted by Stelter on X is your citation of Carr gloating? Reason is misrepresenting truth at the same levels of CNN now. What is going on?
"Over the past week, Carr not only pressured a broadcaster to punish one of its hosts over intemperate comments, he gloated over the host's suspension and pledged daytime chat show The View might be next in his crosshairs."
The public interest means the will of the people.
Right? Obviously. Just act accordingly.
Regulation of electromagnetic waves is not in the constitution. So this is all moot.
But since govt is going to do it anyway, anyone who is tired of the broadcast tyranny needs to move to cable or streaming. Govt has yet to be successful regulating encrypted 1s and 0s.