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Politics

'Very Touching' Text Messages

Plus: Fed rate cut, Luigi watch, Hep B vaccination changes, and more...

Liz Wolfe | 9.17.2025 9:31 AM

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How Robinson was caught: Tyler Robinson, the 22-year-old suspect in the murder of conservative pundit Charlie Kirk as he was speaking on Utah Valley University's campus, initially evaded the FBI. But, per charging documents in the case, his mother recognized him via the CCTV pictures released, and called him to ask where he'd been that day; she conferred with his father, who grew suspicious that the description of the rifle used in the shooting matched a rifle Robinson had been given as a gift. According to the Robinson parents' account to investigators, their son had grown more political over the past year and "more pro-gay and trans-rights oriented," having frequent disagreements with them, especially his father.

Robinson, after being repeatedly contacted by his parents, indicated to them that he was suicidal; they convinced him to come to their family home in Washington, Utah, and the parents contacted a family friend who is a retired deputy sheriff who helped call the proper authorities. The retired deputy drove all three Robinsons to Hurricane, Utah, where the sheriff's office is, and investigators met them there.

Prosecutors are seeking the death penalty.

Alleged text messages between Robinson and his romantic partner: These really don't seem real to me, but they were in the charging documents released yesterday by the Utah authorities. Is this how 22-year-olds really text? Robinson seems so bizarre—relatively recently radicalized, not totally estranged from a loving family.

Robinson wrote to his roommate/romantic partner about how the messages on his bullets were "mostly a big meme" and about how he'll hear the "notices bulge" thing on Fox News. pic.twitter.com/mFhvSqk9Fa

— Aric Toler (@AricToler) September 16, 2025

Some, like ABC's Matt Gutman, appear rather enchanted with Robinson and these text messages:

DISGUSTING: ABC's Matt Gutman says he's not sure "if we have seen an alleged murder with such specific text messages" that were "very touching, in a way, that I think many of us didn't expect — a very intimate portrait into this relationship between the suspect's roommate and the… pic.twitter.com/ulPcxoOwM3

— Curtis Houck (@CurtisHouck) September 16, 2025

This feels like "mostly peaceful" Round 2: "very touching" killer. They can just not!

And here's some more cable news clownery, from MSNBC:

MSNBC's Zadrozny: To suggest people on the internet are cheering for the murder of Charlie Kirk is "the total opposite of what's actually happening."

Their lying simply knows no bounds. None. pic.twitter.com/9iz8LLxH4B

— Western Lensman (@WesternLensman) September 16, 2025

College campus skirmishes: At campus after campus, skirmishes keep erupting over how to honor Kirk—and whether students who oppose Kirk will allow tributes to him to remain up and untouched. Consider this interaction, from the University of North Carolina Wilmington:

Before and after pic.twitter.com/Qk0WvyDSTy

— Nick Craig (@nicholasmcraig) September 16, 2025

And Texas State University appears to have expelled a student who mocked the way Kirk was killed—gleefully reenacting the bullet hitting his neck in front of a memorial that mourning students had set up—and spit on or at TPUSA students while disrupting their event:

This was at Texas State @txst a Charlie Kirk memorial event hosted by local TPUSA chapter. Student imitates Charlie Kirk's death and mocks him, goes up to statue where TPUSA members are and imitates his death again, and spits near them. Also uses a vape/weed pen near end of video… pic.twitter.com/mVOHeh1jpk

— TheTexasOne (@TexasRepublic71) September 16, 2025

I'm a little torn on the nastiness that's emerging in the wake of the Kirk assassination and how it ought to be dealt with. We should give wide berth to expressive acts and have campuses that tolerate speech, even ugly speech that offends many of us. But might vandalism and disrupting a memorial and spitting on fellow students be considered something beyond expression? I'm torn here, and truthfully pretty disgusted by the reactions to Kirk's killing from cable news pundits, college students, online TikTokers—not people I found especially reliable and even-keeled before all this, but…new lows are always possible, I suppose.

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  • "New York State terrorism charges against Luigi Mangione, the defendant in the fatal shooting of UnitedHealthcare's chief executive last year, were dismissed on Tuesday, including a first-degree murder count that could have landed him in prison for the rest of his life," reports The New York Times. "The judge overseeing the case, Gregory Carro, said he had found the evidence behind the charges 'legally insufficient.' Mr. Mangione, 27, also faces federal charges, and is still charged in New York with second-degree murder, for which he faces a sentence of 25 years to life, among nine other counts. Those cases will proceed, though no trial dates have been set.…New York law requires that prosecutors who charge a defendant with terrorism show that the person attempted to intimidate a civilian population, or influence government policy or conduct. Justice [Gregory] Carro said that prosecutors had failed to show that Mr. Mangione sought to do either." People celebrated in the streets.
  • Today, the Federal Reserve is expected to cut interest rates, given the weakening labor market.
  • The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), under Robert F. Kennedy Jr., look likely to change the vaccination recommendations for Hepatitis B shots for newborns, making it so that they're no longer the norm. Hep B is an awful viral disease that damages the liver, but it's mostly acquired through sex or needles, and mothers are tested for Hepatitis B during pregnancy, so it has always seemed like overkill to me that newborns must be vaccinated against this when we know their status and their mother's status from the get-go. Ofer Levy of Boston Children's Hospital said the quiet part out loud to The New York Times: "The risk of families falling between the cracks of the health care system may be much higher in the U.S." That's why those shots have long been recommended by the CDC. But this is indicative of so much that's frustrating about public health: There's the expectation that parents be comfortable with assuming some additional risk for the greater good, to ensure no child anywhere slips through the cracks.
  • The "Charlie Kirk is a misogynist" line strikes me as so weird and untrue. Is it just that any devout Christian is considered a terrible sexist pig? It's disturbing to me that some large portion of the country is totally unaware of what the other half believes, and so quick to look past their honorable and consistent actions:

The more I think about it, the more I take issue with the "Charlie Kirk was a misogynist" line from parts of the left. What are you talking about? He seemed like a pretty exemplary husband and father. Or is it that any devout Christian is considered a misogynist by these people?

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  1. Chumby   5 hours ago

    Was/Were?

    Utah County District Attorney Jeff Gray announces he will be seeking the death penalty for Charlie Kirk's killer

    Transexual chaser and Far-Left militant suspect is being charged with the following:

    Count 1: aggravated murder

    Count 2: felony discharge of a firearm

    - Bellum Acta

    If convicted and sentenced, the rainbow cultist suspect will face the firing squad. His last moment on Earth would be guys dumping loads into him.

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    1. John C. Randolph   5 hours ago

      This is exactly what the death penalty is for. If it were up to me though, I'd lock the punk up in solitary confinement, incommunicado, with no access to reading or writing materials, on a bread and water ration for the rest of his life, with an option for hara-kiri after no less than 20 years.

      -jcr

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      1. Quo Usque Tandem   5 hours ago

        Rough, but I agree with the sentiment. As far as punishment fitting the crime, a life lost for a life taken seems about right.

        Of course the other side of punishment should be to serve as a deterrent to those who would imitate [and I am sure there are quite a few wanting to follow suit, and pundits and executives are a lot less protected than government officials]; and to those types he will be their own martyr. What kind of punishment would diminish that likely outcome? A firing squad [not that he doesn't deserve it] would solidify his canonization amongst the crazies.

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        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   4 hours ago

          Lobotomy?

          Seriously, turning a militant into a drooling idiot might make for a less appealing martyr. Especially if the idiot can be conditioned to become a lap dog for the "enemy".

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          1. Quo Usque Tandem   4 hours ago

            That's Game of Thrones level punishment. Might work.

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      2. Rick James   2 hours ago

        And based on what we know about human beings, he'd fight to avoid the death penalty so he could have that.

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  2. Fist of Etiquette   5 hours ago

    These really don't seem real to me, but they were in the charging documents released yesterday by the Utah authorities.

    NEW CONSPIRACY THEORY JUST DROPPED.

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    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   4 hours ago

      "Fact check on aisle seven"

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    2. Longtobefree   4 hours ago

      "Is this how 22-year-olds really text?"

      Probably not, but it may well be how crazy 22-year-olds text.

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      1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   4 hours ago

        ^+1.

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  3. Fist of Etiquette   5 hours ago

    ABC's Matt Gutman says he's not sure "if we have seen an alleged murder with such specific text messages" that were "very touching, in a way, that I think many of us didn't expect..."

    Pause.

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    1. Chumby   5 hours ago

      Very touching? Penis touching.

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      1. Quo Usque Tandem   5 hours ago

        Exactly what does a boy to girl have, down there?

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        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   4 hours ago

          Disappointment.

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        2. Wizzle Bizzle   4 hours ago

          What ever it is, the shitbag chose spending endless time on Reddit and Bluesky over it. Probably says something.

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        3. Ajsloss   4 hours ago

          My understanding is that they push the penis into the body as a makeshift vagina/penis sleeve.

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          1. Chumby   3 hours ago

            That could be frot with challenges.

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            1. Groovus Maximus   3 hours ago

              Any way you slice it, it's a split decision...

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              1. Chumby   3 hours ago

                Might rub some the wrong way.

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                1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   3 hours ago

                  Seems like someone is getting shafted.

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                  1. Chumby   2 hours ago

                    One of them getting the short end of the stick.

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                    1. Groovus Maximus   2 hours ago

                      Clearly a nub-ulous situation.

        4. Randy Sax   4 hours ago

          https://www.youtube.com/shorts/i97Ry3bH_yA

          Obligatory South Park clip.

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          1. Quo Usque Tandem   1 hour ago

            Keeper

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    2. Longtobefree   4 hours ago

      "alleged murder"?
      How in hell can you even pretend the murder did not take place?
      Oh wait. ABC.

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      1. Quo Usque Tandem   4 hours ago

        They haven't read the coroner's report yet; could have been spontaneous rupture of a carotid artery at the moment a bullet passed by...

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      2. Chumby   4 hours ago

        Died with covid

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  4. Chumby   5 hours ago

    Boys will be Girls

    Utah County Attorney says mother of suspected Charlie Kirk shooter stated that her son “had started to lean more to the left, becoming more pro-gay and trans rights-oriented,” and dated his trans roommate, a biological male.

    - The Global Eye

    Blue Sky content consumer and Soros apologist tells us the suspect could be a conservative groyper. We the people just don’t know anything and should treat the volume of known information as untrue just like team blue treated the fake Russia hoax information as fact.

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    1. Liberty_Belle   3 hours ago

      I wonder did it ever occur to her (or anybody else) that you can be gay / trans / whatever while also being right wing / conservative ? Or did she see gay and immediately decide in her head that "gay means left ! "

      Is it so hard to wrap your brain around the possibility of a gay / trans conservative ? Or a conservative that believes in the rights and dignity of a person regardless of what's in their pants like some kind of filthy Libertarian ?

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      1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   3 hours ago

        Please tell me how you manage to make it through your day while being this retarded.

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      2. Chumby   3 hours ago

        What ITL said.

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      3. Rick James   2 hours ago

        I wonder did it ever occur to her (or anybody else) that you can be gay / trans / whatever while also being right wing / conservative ? Or did she see gay and immediately decide in her head that "gay means left ! "

        There are lots of gay conservatives, but if you're gay and conservative, then while you might sleep with men, you're not gay.

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        1. Rick James   2 hours ago

          Oh, based on the article I linked right above, there's a "Down's Syndrome" joke somewhere in the followup.

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      4. Quo Usque Tandem   1 hour ago

        So, LB, how does your convoluted assertion shake it in the current circumstance?

        Yeah, I thought so. But, theoretically, it could be...just don't know or haven't met any.

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      5. Mother's Lament   35 minutes ago

        What ITL said.

        Seriously. Why would a gay conservative shoot Charlie Kirk? That doesn't even make sense. Just ask Dave Rubin and Scott Presler who were Kirk's friends.

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  5. Fist of Etiquette   5 hours ago

    To suggest people on the internet are cheering for the murder of Charlie Kirk is "the total opposite of what's actually happening."

    I didn't realize how much I missed the gaslighting of the COVID era until now.

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    1. Quo Usque Tandem   5 hours ago

      Full on Pravda is back, baby!

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      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   4 hours ago

        What time is the two-minutes hate?

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        1. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   4 hours ago

          There are 4 lights

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        2. Longtobefree   4 hours ago

          24/7 these days - - - - - - - -

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        3. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   4 hours ago

          Sixty-one minutes past the hour.

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        4. Chumby   3 hours ago

          When the big hand is on the little hand.

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          1. Minadin   2 hours ago

            Seems to happen a lot on the left.

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  6. Chumby   5 hours ago

    Freedom Down Under

    And so it begins ...

    Australia to implement a FULL-BLOWN government digital ID!

    Covid was a test.

    This will be the real show.

    Then everyone will have a social credit score and the country will turn into a live data farm.

    https://twitter.com/WallStreetSilv/status/1774487881706275002

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    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   4 hours ago

      Crikey!

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    2. JesseAz (RIP CK)   4 hours ago

      Quarantine ID!!! - sarc. Probably.

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      1. Chumby   4 hours ago

        Have only begun internationally traveling again after nations are sunsetting the covid passport crap. Oz isn’t on the list of destinations and stuff like this helps keep it that way. Though suppose I could apply for asylum and expect Canberra to pay all my expenses in perpetuity.

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    3. Wizzle Bizzle   4 hours ago

      Good. The populace has been allowing this shit unchallenged for years. They deserve to live in a police state. Once an inmate...

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      1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   4 hours ago

        They haven’t gone far from the prisoner/jailer mentality in 200+ years.

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        1. CindyF   3 hours ago

          The politicians in Australia are obviously the descendants of the prison guards from a couple of centuries ago. Not much has changed.

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    4. Rick James   2 hours ago

      Reason: It's web3.0 realized, man! Down with the nation state, up with the corporate data farm. The size of your SQL database will be your borders!

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    5. Rockstevo   44 minutes ago

      Does this mean everyone is required to have a cell phone?

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  7. Fist of Etiquette   5 hours ago

    Is this how 22-year-olds really text?

    Get a load of the boomer up there who doesn't know how the kids rap to each other these days.

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    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   4 hours ago

      22 is the new 12.

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      1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   4 hours ago

        Do Shrike and Jeffy know?

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        1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   4 hours ago

          The lived experience!

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    2. JesseAz (RIP CK)   4 hours ago

      Youre so rizz bruh

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      1. Wizzle Bizzle   4 hours ago

        6 7

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        1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   4 hours ago

          No cap.

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      2. Rick James   2 hours ago

        fr. ngl... ong.

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        1. Quo Usque Tandem   1 hour ago

          Are you niggling?

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          1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   41 minutes ago

            Or sniggering?

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  8. Fist of Etiquette   5 hours ago

    At campus after campus, skirmishes keep erupting over how to honor Kirk—and whether students who oppose Kirk will allow tributes to him to remain up and untouched.

    ...while wearing Che t-shirts.

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    1. Spiritus Mundi   5 hours ago

      ...while wearing George Floyd t-shirts.

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    2. Mickey Rat   4 hours ago

      These are people with the same type of thinking that skid marks on a rainbow crosswalk are a hate crime. They have incredible levels of double standards and entitlement.

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      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   4 hours ago

        As do most shitty, spoiled 12 year olds. Also all Marxists.

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    3. Minadin   4 hours ago

      Behold the tolerant left.

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      1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   4 hours ago

        At the risk of sounding like Nardz, we’ve been far too tolerant of the “tolerant” left for far too long. Time for them to meet some consequences for their behavior.

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        1. tracerv   3 hours ago

          "Nardz was Right!" t-shirts on sale at the tracerv gift shop after the tour is completed.

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        2. Mother's Lament   3 hours ago

          Agree.
          I still think it's a bad idea to be violent back yet as we have the very high ground here and losing it would be a mistake, but the time for shrugging and ignoring when they do their shouting down and smear campaigns stuff is now past.

          I think suing them to oblivion every time they make a smear or do something violent is job one, right now. And because most of their victims can't afford legal justice I think some sort of charitable group created to provide legal aide just for those cases is monumentally important.

          It's first targets should be the ADL and the SPLC who have been nothing more than DNC super-PACs exclusively running smear campaigns against innocents for the last quarter century. They need to be shut down.

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          1. HorseConch   2 hours ago

            I would venture to guess that the non-lunatic adult population, as in those of us who don't want to engage in or condone violent actions is 10 or more to 1. That leaves millions of crazies, but we outnumber them by so much that they will be crushed legally.

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          2. Idaho-Bob   2 hours ago

            I think suing them to oblivion every time they make a smear or do something violent is job one,

            I agree except when violence is involved. Violence must be met with immediate violence. Lawsuits take years and may not by won. If a demon walks up to a conservative information table and trashes the table, or assaults the guy in the chair, or even throws (any) liquid, the perp should be met with force. Zero fucking tolerance. The pendulum has swung.

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            1. tracerv   2 hours ago

              I mean, if not now, what's it going to take?

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  9. Fist of Etiquette   5 hours ago

    Also uses a vape/weed pen near end of video…

    The clearest evidence of douchery.

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    1. Wizzle Bizzle   4 hours ago

      Somewhere a single tear is trickling down Nick Gillespie's cheek. Hope it doesn't stain the leather jacket.

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      1. tracerv   2 hours ago

        It's a Dirk Diggler real imitation Italian leather jacket. He'll be fine.

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      2. Mother's Lament   29 minutes ago

        That leather jacket is going to kick Gillespie's ass one day.

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  10. Fist of Etiquette   5 hours ago

    "Strip Club Executives Bribed Tax Auditor With Lap Dances."

    I'd like to think the execs themselves gave the lap dances.

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    1. Chumby   4 hours ago

      Will have to read the Yelp review.

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    2. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   4 hours ago

      Give the tax auditor something else to fuck other than you.

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  11. Earth-based Human Skeptic   5 hours ago

    'Some, like ABC's Matt Gutman, appear rather enchanted with Robinson and these text messages'

    What would the average akita think of Gutman? Or Robinson?

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    1. Spiritus Mundi   5 hours ago

      Appears to play well with the boomer crowd still watching ABC.

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      1. Longtobefree   4 hours ago

        Both of them?

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        1. Minadin   4 hours ago

          Ahem. Both of they/them.

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      2. Wizzle Bizzle   4 hours ago

        Hey, if you can tell me where else I can find misreported week-old news, plus east coast weather AND a cooking segment, I want to hear it.

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    2. Chumby   5 hours ago

      There would be shame and growling. Looks like Gutman has turned the other cheek on the assassination and pivoted to coddling the suspect. If the trans boyfriend cosplay woman thing doesn’t dump the suspect, would Gutman support conjugal visits while in furry costume?

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  12. Fist of Etiquette   5 hours ago

    New York State terrorism charges against Luigi Mangione...

    He's a whatwas.

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    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   4 hours ago

      What if Mangione and Robinson had a love child?

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      1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   4 hours ago

        Since they’re both guys, I’m guessing it would be a piece of shit.

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        1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   4 hours ago

          Stop summoning sqrsly.

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          1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   3 hours ago

            Sqrlsy is a cannibal.

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  13. Spiritus Mundi   5 hours ago

    But might vandalism and disrupting a memorial and spitting on fellow students be considered something beyond expression? I'm torn here...

    I'm not. When you use your freedom of expression to supress others' freedom of expression you crossed the line. By Felicia.

    Also, spittting on people is assult. Practically murder in the covid ear according to the maskholes.

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    1. Quo Usque Tandem   4 hours ago

      What's HIV nowadays, chopped liver?

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      1. Eeyore   4 hours ago

        If you spit on someone when your mouth is bleeding because they punched you in the face - isn't that self defense?

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        1. Ajsloss   4 hours ago

          I'll need to know skin colors before passing judgment on that hypothetical.

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      2. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   4 hours ago

        If you have aids and go to a gay orgy is that like driving around with a bear in your trunk?

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        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 hours ago

          Does the bear have COVID?

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          1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   3 hours ago

            Monkeypox.

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            1. HorseConch   2 hours ago

              Wouldn't Fatty McGee consider that a lover and not a threat?

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    2. Minadin   4 hours ago

      Yes, that's beyond the limits of freedom of expression.

      Also, they painted over the vandalism of the memorial with further vandalism: BLM imagery.

      https://x.com/TaraBull808/status/1968202143879536722

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      1. HorseConch   2 hours ago

        Just like the flag burning EO that they were up in arms about. It turns out that if you can't have an open fire, it is actually illegal to burn a flag there. If you steal the flag to burn, also illegal. If you burn your own in a space that allows burning, protected speech. Nuance and legal definitions are only supposed to apply to one side.

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    3. MasterThief   3 hours ago

      Respect for the speech of others is how free speech is upheld in society. Competing speech is fine. Erasing someone else's speech shows the person doesn't share that value and possibly forfeits his own. I can't recall stories of blm murals getting destroyed, but I don't support that either

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      1. Minadin   3 hours ago

        I recall one, but it was arguably an act of God.

        https://www.cbsnews.com/minnesota/news/george-floyd-mural-struck-by-lightning-in-toledo-ohio/

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    4. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   3 hours ago

      Yeah, weird take by Liz in an otherwise well stated segment.

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  14. Earth-based Human Skeptic   5 hours ago

    'Consider this interaction, from the University of North Carolina Wilmington'

    Why aren't the chicks in that photo wearing their mandatory hand maids' outfits and making sandwiches?

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    1. Quo Usque Tandem   4 hours ago

      You left out barefooted and pregnant. And everyone knows The Handmaid's Tale was the inspiration for Project 25.

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      1. Eeyore   4 hours ago

        I only ever see women cosplay in hand maids' outfits. They say it is in protest, but I think they are unintentionally telegraphing a sexual preference.

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        1. Randy Sax   4 hours ago

          It's been obvious from the beginning that the handmaid thing is a just kink for them.

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      2. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   4 hours ago

        "...Project 25..."

        Funny how that was such a THREAT!!!!!!!!! and then disappeared in the wink of an eye.

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        1. Quo Usque Tandem   1 hour ago

          Election scare tactic, but noticed it's been recycled a couple of days ago; expect it will continue to be drug out as propaganda bait as needed:

          https://www.msnbc.com/ali-velshi/watch/we-warned-you-about-project-2025-well-it-s-here-247555141874

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    2. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   3 hours ago

      As someone who frequently vacations at the nearby beaches, UNCW chicks are wearing much less than handmaid’s tale costumes. And doing it well.

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  15. Chinny Chin Chin   5 hours ago

    It's disturbing to me that some large portion of the country is totally unaware of what the other half believes

    I hate to break it to you, Lizzie, but this isn't exactly new. Polling has consistently shown for years that neither Team's partisans understand what the other side thinks or believes.

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    1. Mataratones   4 hours ago

      But also that Team Left has significantly less understanding of their opponents than Team Right.

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      1. Mother's Lament   3 hours ago

        Slightly? I'd say completely.
        And because team blue holds the megaphone, Shrike's "both sides" assertion that the rest of the country has no idea what they're saying, is laughable.

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    2. JesseAz (RIP CK)   4 hours ago

      This is laughably and retardedly false as Haidt as shown many many times. Conservatives understand your retarded ideas. They can state what you believe. The opposite is not true dumbfuck.

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      1. Chumby   4 hours ago

        People on the right accurately predicting the bad behavior by the left are the real monsters.

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      2. A Thinking Mind   2 hours ago

        Ask someone on the left to pretend to be conservative and you get a ridiculous caricature. Ask someone on the right to pretend to be liberal/very liberal and they can often nail it.

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    3. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   4 hours ago

      We can smell you shits a mile off and know exactly what you are, lying pile of slimy lefty shit.

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    4. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   3 hours ago

      We understand what you believe just fine.

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  16. Fist of Etiquette   5 hours ago

    The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), under Robert F. Kennedy Jr...

    No qualifier needed, unless you're trying to bolster the agency's credibility (however marginally).

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    1. Minadin   3 hours ago

      That particular structure doesn't need bolstering, it's beyond repair and requires demolition.

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  17. Fist of Etiquette   5 hours ago

    There's the expectation that parents be comfortable with assuming some additional risk for the greater good...

    COVID exposed that public health agencies are primarily concerned with the system's health, not your health.

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    1. Spiritus Mundi   4 hours ago

      Treat the symptoms, never the cause. There is no money to be made in a cure.

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  18. Earth-based Human Skeptic   5 hours ago

    'I'm a little torn on the nastiness that's emerging in the wake of the Kirk assassination and how it ought to be dealt with. We should give wide berth to expressive acts and have campuses that tolerate speech, even ugly speech that offends many of us. But might vandalism and disrupting a memorial and spitting on fellow students be considered something beyond expression? I'm torn here, and truthfully pretty disgusted by the reactions to Kirk's killing from cable news pundits, college students, online TikTokers—not people I found especially reliable and even-keeled before all this, but…new lows are always possible, I suppose.'

    Time to lock the campus gates, and hand out shotguns and swords. Let the young barbarians sort things out.

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    1. Longtobefree   4 hours ago

      Shotguns to the side that supports the second amendment, and swords to the gun-control crowd?

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      1. Wizzle Bizzle   4 hours ago

        You're close, but the anti-gun set should be armed only with words. As they have screeched at us for years, words are violence.

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        1. Quo Usque Tandem   1 hour ago

          Literally shaking here...

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  19. JesseAz (RIP CK)   5 hours ago

    Jeff was still pushing Robinson was a groyper/maga last night despite released text messages, interviews with friends and family, etc.

    They are all broken.

    https://legalinsurrection.com/2025/09/wink-wink-kirk-murderers-bragging-texts-abc-gushed/

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    1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   5 hours ago

      Professors glad Kirk is dead for merely posting their comments into a database.

      https://pjmedia.com/rick-moran/2025/09/16/professors-targeted-by-charlie-kirks-watch-list-relieved-hes-dead-n4943755

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    2. JesseAz (RIP CK)   5 hours ago

      Many of us talked about the corruption and indoctrination of universities decades ago. Are they responsible? We were told to ignore it, no big deal at the time.

      https://www.zerohedge.com/political/was-current-madness-birthed-university

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    3. Chumby   5 hours ago

      Jeff also trued to equate an 82-year old man ostensibly dying of an end-of-life disease with a 31-year old being struck down by an assassin’s bullet. If there are any fence sitters here, he’s not convincing any of them to join team blue.

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      1. Spiritus Mundi   4 hours ago

        Bidens in trunks is pedojeffy's schrodinger's cat.

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        1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   4 hours ago

          Schrödinger’s bear.

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          1. Chumby   4 hours ago

            Schrödinger's gummi bear

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    4. Earth-based Human Skeptic   4 hours ago

      Broken? More like lying, sadistic fucks.

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    5. shrike   4 hours ago

      Jeff was still pushing Robinson was a groyper/maga last night

      Jesse, I know you're stupid and lie all the time but you have to give me credit for calling the shooter a leftist immediately.

      My rationale? He stated that he was an avowed anti-fascist.

      Therefore he is of the left.

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      1. Super Scary   4 hours ago

        Nothing says "anti-facist" like killing a man advocating free speech.

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        1. shrike   4 hours ago

          That isn't why he killed him.

          He shot him because he was beaning mean to trannies.

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          1. Spiritus Mundi   4 hours ago

            By being mean, you mean not accepting their dilusions?

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            1. shrike   4 hours ago

              Let them have their delusions.

              I don't care.

              why are you on a libertarian board?

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              1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   3 hours ago

                A better question is why is a pederast like you on a libertarian board?

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                1. Chumby   3 hours ago

                  He’s here for supply.

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                2. Minadin   2 hours ago

                  You know who else was a pederast?

                  Turns out: the crazy old guy who tried to distract law enforcement while the shooter escaped:

                  https://x.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1968014334023422179

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              2. Mother's Lament   3 hours ago

                Why are YOU on a libertarian board, Shrike?

                You just claimed it's okay to violate the NAP on Kirk (who was the embodiment of the NAP), because he thought the transgenderism faith was largely autogynephilics forcing everyone else to play along with their fetish, and the mentally ill.

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                1. shrike   2 hours ago

                  Liar. I claimed no such thing.

                  You lie like the other Trump Cultists here.

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                  1. Mother's Lament   26 minutes ago

                    Literally seven posts up, you retard:

                    "shrike 3 hours ago
                    That isn't why he killed him.
                    He shot him because he was beaning mean to trannies."

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              3. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   3 hours ago

                Libertarianism doesn’t have anything to do with accepting people’s delusions, pedo.

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          2. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   4 hours ago

            turd, the ass-wipe of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
            If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
            turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

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      2. Chumby   4 hours ago

        https://psychcentral.com/disorders/treating-pedophilia#aversion-therapy

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      3. Spiritus Mundi   4 hours ago

        Poor shrike.

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      4. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   4 hours ago

        turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
        If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
        turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

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      5. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   4 hours ago

        Speaking of lying, sadistic fucks…

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      6. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   3 hours ago

        You were banned for posting a link to child porn.

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    6. JesseAz (RIP CK)   4 hours ago

      This chart shows why the left participates in gaslighting. Look at who the left thinks Robinson was for.

      https://x.com/cabot_phillips/status/1967751889199747502

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      1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   4 hours ago

        Democrats participate in gaslighting as they themselves are gaslit by their media day-in and day-out. They get programming all day long and never look at any other points of view. And that programming is a bitch to break.

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        1. Chumby   3 hours ago

          But Blue Sky showed the suspect wearing a Trump shirt so it must be true.

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      2. Gaear Grimsrud   3 hours ago

        Really baffling that people reach these conclusions. But the question is about party affiliation not political philosophy. I don't know if this guy is a Democrat. But he is obviously in agreement with the leftist wing of the party. Which is essentially the entire party with a handful of notable exceptions.

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    7. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   3 hours ago

      Demon Jeffy lies. It’s what he does.

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    8. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 hours ago

      Him using the "punching down" phrase was the most telling part of his crashout last night. He REALLY doesn't like it when his lefty boos are resisted and readily adopts their buzzwords and catchphrases in unguarded moments.

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      1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   1 hour ago

        He also didnt like when I reminded him he was pro censorship so his free speech claims are nonsense.

        chemjeff radical individualist 2 years ago
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        If the Right stopped spreading dangerous conspiracy theories, they would have no need to censor anyone.

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  20. Fist of Etiquette   5 hours ago

    Is it just that any devout Christian is considered a terrible sexist pig?

    No one venerates motherhood like the Catholics, which of course is unadulterated misogyny.

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    1. Quo Usque Tandem   4 hours ago

      Never mind anti Nihilist [is it logically possible to be against nothing?].

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      1. mad.casual   4 hours ago

        Check your precepts. Is it logically possible for someone to be in favor or or motivated by nothing?

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      2. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   4 hours ago

        “Nihilists! Fuck me. I mean, say what you want about the tenets of National Socialism, Dude, at least it's an ethos.“

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        1. Wizzle Bizzle   4 hours ago

          LOL, you beat me by a minute. I should learn to type faster. But then I should do a lot of things I'm not going to do.

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          1. Dillinger   2 hours ago

            nice marmot.

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            1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 hours ago

              Who gives a shit about the fucking marmot!

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      3. Fist of Etiquette   4 hours ago

        Fucking dipshit with a nine-toed woman.

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        1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   3 hours ago

          Well, they finally did it. They killed my fucking car.

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      4. Wizzle Bizzle   4 hours ago

        Anti Nihlists? Fuck me! I mean, say what you want about the tenets of National Socialism, dude, at least it's an ethos.

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        1. Quo Usque Tandem   59 minutes ago

          Ok, that's a cult film I haven't watched; I will remediate that failing shortly.

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          1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   39 minutes ago

            It’s worth it, even just for the quotability.

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  21. Earth-based Human Skeptic   5 hours ago

    'A little offended that the most Reason possible headline appeared in The New York Times: "Strip Club Executives Bribed Tax Auditor With Lap Dances."'

    You know who else was compromised with lap dances?

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    1. Quo Usque Tandem   4 hours ago

      Slick's Willie?

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    2. Chumby   4 hours ago

      Tranny groomer sex offender book reader story tellers?

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    3. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   4 hours ago

      Eric Swalwell by Fang Fang?

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  22. JesseAz (RIP CK)   5 hours ago

    Dearborn Michigan is our own Lil slice of caliphate.

    Open Source Intel
    @Osint613
    MUST WATCH

    A Dearborn, Michigan resident opposed naming a street after pro-Hezbollah figure Osama Siblani

    Dearborn Mayor Abdullah Hammoud responded to the resident: “You do not belong in this city, Islamophobe! Get out!, you are not welcomed here”
    Video

    https://x.com/Osint613/status/1968057543290392952

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    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   4 hours ago

      Future American Gaza?

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      1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   4 hours ago

        That was my alternate to caliphate.

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      2. Ajsloss   4 hours ago

        I thought Detroit was the open-air prison?

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      3. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 hours ago

        Pretty much. This type of NPC shaming language is pretty common amongst westernized Palestinians, who tend to actually be secularists whose real religion is cultural marxism.

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  23. Earth-based Human Skeptic   5 hours ago

    'New York law requires that prosecutors who charge a defendant with terrorism show that the person attempted to intimidate a civilian population, or influence government policy or conduct.'

    Like with mean tweets or erroneous book-keeping?

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    1. Quo Usque Tandem   4 hours ago

      Security guided tour of the Capitol.

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    2. Mickey Rat   4 hours ago

      "...and insurance company executives surely do not count as people, am I right? - some NYS judge, apparently.

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  24. BYODB   5 hours ago

    I actually almost went to Texas State (when it was known as Southwest Texas), and ultimately I didn't because it has a local reputation as a party school.

    I guess when you choose a school because it has a tubing river that goes through campus you might end up with more than the average share of idiot students.

    It is absurd that the left is cheering the undercharging of a guy that murdered someone because of their job. I really fail to see how that guy wasn't making a political statement with his shooting, but I suspect the Fed is going to be less up their ass on his prosecution.

    Also, those 'loving' texts were literally about a premeditated murder of a person that never did anything wrong to this guy or his boyfriend. It shouldn't take a genius to condemn that, yet here we are.

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    1. Zeb   4 hours ago

      But why do the idiots have to get political? Can't they just party and fuck each other?

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      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   4 hours ago

        Not after they all mutilated their genitals. Now they have to take out their frustrations on normies.

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        1. Zeb   4 hours ago

          I don't know, I kind of get the impression most trannies keep their junk and then do onlyfans.

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        2. mad.casual   4 hours ago

          I'm not a biologist, but genitals have got nothing to do with it.

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      2. BYODB   4 hours ago

        I'm not really sure, but the explanation that seems to fit best are extremist professors.

        Colleges that largely exist to get people jobs seem to fare far better than colleges that seem to exist for perpetuating ideological nonsense. I suppose that makes sense too, as most humanities professors never expected to accomplish much more than to teach the subject to the next generation of humanities students and perhaps write a few books to get big bucks.

        There isn't much demand for those subjects outside of their own bubbles. I don't mean to make light of all the humanities, some of it can be valuable, but it seems to me the valuable part is teaching critical thinking and that is the specific part they don't seem to know how to teach because they have none themselves.

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        1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   4 hours ago

          Universities have largely become a job center for unemployed humanities majors. Those colleges keep growing and siphoning funds from the real schools like engineering. They increase administration to fund their own humanities majors.

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      3. Super Scary   4 hours ago

        Well, they they had to do something during the refractory period. Why not politically radicalize while everyone is charging up?

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      4. Quo Usque Tandem   4 hours ago

        The good ole days of boomer-dom.

        Now you'd have to concern yourself with retroactive withdrawal of consent, at least until after you graduated.

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    2. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 hours ago

      Guessing the Mangiones have hired a well paid legal team to get the charges reduced.

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  25. Earth-based Human Skeptic   5 hours ago

    'But this is indicative of so much that's frustrating about public health: There's the expectation that parents be comfortable with assuming some additional risk for the greater good, to ensure no child anywhere slips through the cracks.'

    Hey, do you want health equity or stupid freedom?

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    1. Mickey Rat   4 hours ago

      "Look, you are a bad person if you do not assume the level of risk for your child the state bureaucracy deems acceptable, understood?"

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  26. JesseAz (RIP CK)   5 hours ago

    Bey Liz, wait until you hear what Destiny, followed by millions of retarded leftists, had to say.

    Greg Price
    @greg_price11
    Destiny just said the quiet part out loud:

    "If you wanted Charlie Kirk to be alive, Donald Trump shouldn't have been President for the second term."

    Mask fully off.

    Video

    https://x.com/greg_price11/status/1967713814918598709

    He later said conservatives needed to fear being shot for speaking in public.

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    1. damikesc   4 hours ago

      Remember --- his son hates his guts and his ex-wife cucked the ever living hell out of him.

      ALWAYS remember that about "him"

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      1. MasterThief   3 hours ago

        Did we ever get an actual answer to whether he sucked Nick Fuentes's dick?

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        1. damikesc   2 hours ago

          No, but the rumors him taking some cock in him are legion.

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    2. Chumby   4 hours ago

      Is (D)icked magazine’s Matt Welch actually Destiny?

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    3. Mickey Rat   4 hours ago

      Destiny also said that conservatives need to be afraid of violence against them in public places.

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    4. Quo Usque Tandem   4 hours ago

      I'm informed by reliable source that this sort of thing just isn't happening. Nope, not at all.

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    5. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   3 hours ago

      Destiny is a fucking creep, man. He rants and raves on his show pushing for people to actually commit acts of violence. He’s also been a cuck for his wife (ex-wife now?), and has been known to spout off on how he likes 12 year old girls.

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      1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 hours ago

        The guy is a manlet pederast with a clear humiliation fetish. He was actually livestreaming when Kirk was murdered, and he immediately got up and locked his door. He and Hasan Piker have been getting more vocal about getting violent against conservatives in the last few weeks, and it notably coincided with them gaining a more visible mainstream media profile in the left's desperate attempt to find "their own Joe Rogan."

        It's attention-seeking behavior that's 100% pure projection.

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  27. JesseAz (RIP CK)   5 hours ago

    "The judge overseeing the case, Gregory Carro, said he had found the evidence behind the charges 'legally insufficient.'

    Apparently political messages on the casings used dont qualify as a political message to the judge. That was his reasoning.

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  28. JesseAz (RIP CK)   5 hours ago

    Today, the Federal Reserve is expected to cut interest rates, given the weakening labor market.

    Weakening? They just revised 910k down from last year. Biden lied. The market was weak the last 2 years. Largely dependent on government employment.

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  29. Earth-based Human Skeptic   5 hours ago

    ' It's disturbing to me that some large portion of the country is totally unaware of what the other half believes'

    Are we saying that if the left believes all people on the right are racist, misogynist Nazis then the right can't believe that all people on the left are dogmatic nanny-state socialists?

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  30. JesseAz (RIP CK)   4 hours ago

    The "Charlie Kirk is a misogynist" line strikes me as so weird and untrue. Is it just that any devout Christian is considered a terrible sexist pig? It's disturbing to me that some large portion of the country is totally unaware of what the other half believes, and so quick to look past their honorable and consistent actions:

    This has been true for over a decade and even documented and studied by Haidt.

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    1. Mickey Rat   4 hours ago

      Liz seems to be on a journey of discovering all the horrible things that progressive have been saying for decades, they actually meant.

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      1. Dillinger   2 hours ago

        like omygawd people are so mean.

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        1. tracerv   2 hours ago

          ^^^ nice

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    2. Mother's Lament   4 hours ago

      You can see that with Shrike. He was raised in a culture steeped in Christianity for more than 1,600 years, yet his entire understanding of its doctrines and beliefs boils down to a handful of YouTube atheist memes.

      The Shrikes also never pause to consider why the movements for women’s rights and the abolition of slavery were born out of Christian Europe rather than China or the Ottoman Empire. They vaguely gesture toward the European Enlightenment, failing to realize that:

      1. It was the Scottish Enlightenment thinkers, not the broader European ones, who were the strongest abolitionists, and the Scottish Enlightenment was far less secular than they imagine.

      2. Both the European and Scottish Enlightenments arose within a Christian cultural framework.

      3. The pioneers of the abolitionist movement were overwhelmingly British evangelicals such as William Wilberforce and John Newton.

      Meanwhile, in the early 20th century it was secular “scientific” racists who opposed the suffragettes, who declared blacks to be subhuman (see Ota Benga and the execrable New York Times), and who mocked clergymen who dissented as unscientific fools. And yet now, with historical amnesia, they claim that it was secularism that pushed progress all along.

      Perhaps this explains why history has been so carefully neglected in schools for the past 60 years.

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      1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   3 hours ago

        +1, well put.

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      2. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   2 hours ago

        Speaking of Ottomans, it’s being reported that the Turks are smuggling weapons into Sudan to keep that conflict going.

        Starting to realize Turkey’s had a bigger hand in flooding Europe with rapefugees than I previously thought.

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        1. Mother's Lament   23 minutes ago

          Erdogan is a fanatic who secretly thinks he is going to be the next Caliph.

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    3. rswallen   4 hours ago

      The Righteous Mind?

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      1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   3 hours ago

        And his morality project.

        Haidt did go a bit insane with TDS first trump term though. He even admitted to it.

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  31. Mother's Lament   4 hours ago

    "According to the Robinson parents' account to investigators, their son had grown more political over the past year and "more pro-gay and trans-rights oriented"

    Chemjeffism kills. Don't let your child become a chemjeff.

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    1. Chumby   4 hours ago

      The first rule of rainbow cult club is that you do not talk about rainbow cult club.

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      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   4 hours ago

        Unh uh. The first rule of rainbow cult club is to talk nonstop about rainbow cult club.

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        1. mad.casual   4 hours ago

          The second rule of rainbow cult club is to get offended and claim oppression whenever anybody thinks you talk too much or should celebrate being a member of the rainbow cult club even slightly less.

          If you aren't literally walking on unblemished rainbows that celebrate you as a person wherever you go with nary an even obliquely dubious word about any facet of your personality anywhere, you're oppressed to the point that someone has to die.

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        2. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   2 hours ago

          Especially to children.

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  32. Zeb   4 hours ago

    But might vandalism and disrupting a memorial and spitting on fellow students be considered something beyond expression?

    Yes, it is. Physically interfering with other people or property that isn't yours is not protected as free speech or expression.

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    1. BYODB   4 hours ago

      All the author should need to do is ask themselves if a white person did that at a BLM protest, would that be ok.

      Although one might be forgiving to someone for thinking vandalism and physical disruption of an event is acceptable if they just watched BLM get away with much worse for years. It's not hard to understand how they might think those are the rules of society, since they are now.

      I think a lot of us warned of this very thing, in fact. Giving a pass to some groups for their violence makes everyone think it's the new rules for everyone. That is how societal rules are held in place, in fact, outside open coercion.

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      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   4 hours ago

        'All the author should need to do is ask themselves if a white person did that at a BLM protest, would that be ok.'

        I think you need to repeat your DEI training, especially the modules that justify asymmetric morality and selective race-based rights.

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        1. BYODB   4 hours ago

          They don't want me in DEI training, at the very least I'd be fired after such a training for 'asking questions'. Fortunately I haven't worked in a corporate setting for about a decade now, and even when I did my job was numbers and data driven so we didn't have to go to those types of meetings.

          It's funny that when your department is central the companies functioning, a lot of the bullshit meetings don't end up on your calendar.

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        2. Z Crazy   2 hours ago

          It seems that they feel that there are colonized groups and colonizer groups. They believe that whites are the colonizer group.

          to them, people in colonized groups get to hurt whites, even commit sex crimes against them. It does not matter whether the individual was personally colonized or oppressed.

          This is why they hate ICE. This is why they blame Laken Riley for her murder.

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      2. Zeb   4 hours ago

        Agreed. Jan 6 was probably when people should have figured this out. The left showed in 2020 that having a public temper tantrum was, in their minds, an appropriate response to things they think are bad. What did they expect from the right? Of course they (i.e. the more extreme left) don't care about that kind of consistency. They do what they think will help move the needle in their preferred direction, not what they think will establish reasonable rules of social conduct.

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        1. tracerv   3 hours ago

          +1 Well said.

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          1. Michael Ejercito   2 hours ago

            In other words, it is (D) ifferent when we riot.

            This was why Jack Marshall wrote this.

            https://ethicsalarms.com/2021/01/06/ethics-observations-on-the-pro-trump-rioting-at-the-capitol/

            First and foremost, anyone who did not condemn all of the George Floyd/Jacob Blake/Breonna Taylor/ Black Lives Matters rioting that took place this summer and fall is ethically estopped from criticizing this episode.

            That means I can, and will, condemn it as stupid, useless, self-destructive and anti-democratic violence, but most Democrats, progressives and media pundits cannot.

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      3. Super Scary   3 hours ago

        "It's not hard to understand how they might think those are the rules of society, since they are now."

        This is why I roll my eyes at the "dangerous rhetoric!" pearl clutching. We've seen that we've already gone far past just mean words being the problem.

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  33. mad.casual   4 hours ago

    I'm a little torn on the nastiness that's emerging in the wake of the Kirk assassination and how it ought to be dealt with.

    ...

    "New York State terrorism charges against Luigi Mangione, the defendant in the fatal shooting of UnitedHealthcare's chief executive last year, were dismissed on Tuesday, including a first-degree murder count that could have landed him in prison for the rest of his life," reports The New York Times. "The judge overseeing the case, Gregory Carro, said he had found the evidence behind the charges 'legally insufficient.'

    Remember a few months ago how Conservatives and Libertarians should really sit the bench in the culture wars? It should be increasingly clear that that's a "First They Came" position.

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    1. damikesc   4 hours ago

      People need to realize that Bragg is intentionally "blowing" the case.

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      1. HorseConch   2 hours ago

        He's setting up the perfect dichotomy of Trump is taking down your hero who's actually innocent and did you a favor. It will only embolden the crazies and make even more normal people defect away from them.

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    2. BYODB   4 hours ago

      I think I'm still against tacking on terrorism charges for events where killing people happened. Just murdering those people should carry stiff penalties, they shouldn't have to resport to nebulous 'terrorism' charges to put this guy behind bars for all of his life.

      Also still against the death penalty since Blackstone's Ratio always applies.

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      1. mad.casual   4 hours ago

        I don't think you know how ratios work. If it always applies, you let 9 people off the hook for the death penalty and kill the 10th and most guilty. The ratio is 1-in-10, not 0.

        Blackstone is pretty clear about clearly delineated legal execution being preferable to the oppressive whimsy of judicial discretion:

        If all these resources fail, the court must pronounce that judgment, which the law hath annexed to the crime, and which hath been constantly mentioned, together with the crime itself, in some or other of the former chapters. Of these some are capital, which extend to the life of the offender, and consist generally in being hanged by the neck till dead; though in very atrocious crimes other circumstances of terror, pain, or disgrace are superadded... [insert protracted list and details about various legally-sanctioned methods of execution and torture]... Such as whipping, hard labour in the house of correction, the pillory, the stocks, and the ducking-stool.

        Disgusting as this catalogue may seem, it will afford pleasure to an English reader, and do honour to the English law, to compare it with that shocking apparatus of death and torment, to be met with in the criminal codes of almost every other nation in Europe. And it is moreover one of the glories of our English law, that the nature, though not always the quantity or degree, of punishment is ascertained for every offence; and that it is not left in the breast of any judge, nor even of a jury, to alter that judgment, which the law has beforehand ordained, for every subject alike, without respect of persons. For, if judgments were to be the private opinions of the judge, men would then be slaves to their magistrates; and would live in society, without knowing exactly the conditions and obligations which it lays them under. And besides, as this prevents oppression on the one hand, so on the other it stifles all hopes of impunity or mitigation; with which an offender might flatter himself, if his punishment depended on the humour or discretion of the court. Whereas, where an established penalty is annexed to crimes, the criminal may read their certain consequence in that law, which ought to be the unvaried rule, as it is the inflexible judge, of his actions.

        https://press-pubs.uchicago.edu/founders/documents/amendVIIIs4.html

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      2. mad.casual   3 hours ago

        though in very atrocious crimes other circumstances of terror, pain, or disgrace are superadded

        Blackstone is pretty straightforwardly making the statement that the law could or should use terror to punish the guilty equally rather than allow a magistrate or the judiciary to treat their favored criminals preferentially.

        Your invocation of him against the death penalty isn't even a non-sequitur. In a world where no one ever dies, your conception of Blackstone's Ratio as being a prescription for the number of people the state could/should/would execute for whatever reason.

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        1. BYODB   3 hours ago

          The ratio was not a literal one, although that's a novel take on it I guess.

          Since the death penalty can not be rescinded, it's judged as foolish as it presumes the perfection of one's judiciary.

          At the core of his statements lies a preference for the defense of the innocent over the punishment of the guilty.

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          1. mad.casual   2 hours ago

            The ratio was not a literal one, although that's a novel take on it I guess.

            It's *the* novel take on both ratios and Blackstone's Ratio.

            Since the death penalty can not be rescinded, it's judged as foolish as it presumes the perfection of one's judiciary.

            Is this you quoting Blackstone or you creating a novel interpretation of what you wish he'd said? Because the invokation is "wet roads cause rain" backwards. Blackstone considered the Judiciary under but independent of Charles II to be in accordance with natural law and/or perfection. You seem to have the impression of Blackstone as some sort of modern pacifist laissez-faire legal hippie, which he most certainly was not.

            Blackstone aside, no punishment can be rescinded and thereby the foolish presumption of judiciary perfection is pretty obviously your own.

            At the core of his statements lies a preference for the defense of the innocent over the punishment of the guilty.

            A preference, not an abstinence or foregoing, and in the context of magistrates beholden their King. He was preferential to the innocent against kings and magistrates beholden to the crown. He specifically wasn't in any preferential to protecting the guilty or ameliorating their punishment.

            Yours is a dishonest acontextual interpretation. Blackstone clearly believed in the death penalty, torture, and terror/making examples. He opposed the out-of-hand or whimsical and disordered use of it that you're trying to inject or supplant.

            You might as well say "Jesus said render unto Caesar, so clearly God has granted the government or Congress the power to levy taxes."

            This is the same stupid low-brow idiocy that can't conceptually distinguish a conviction from a sentencing or the system working as a whole.

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  34. shrike   4 hours ago

    What's up, Peanuts?

    Bloomberg reports that Treasury Sec and Soros acolyte Scott Bessent illegally listed two residences as "primary".

    I sure you dumb crackers will be demanding he be fired?

    Yeah sure.

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    1. Spiritus Mundi   4 hours ago

      You constantly claim Trump has surronded himself with boot lickers who do whatever he demands. If that is true, what difference does it make who is carrying out Trump's orders?

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      1. shrike   4 hours ago

        I post that because Donnie wanted to fire Fed Board member Lisa Cook for exactly the same thing.

        Of course he would never say anything about Soros-boy Scottie.

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        1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   3 hours ago

          Except that not why Trump wants to fire Lisa Cook. Shall we begin with the mortgage fraud, or the fact that she’s as incompetent as you?

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          1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   3 hours ago

            She had zero papers on macroeconomics before being elected.

            She's a buffoon. Her tenure committee didnt want to grant tenure but was overruled for political reasons.

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    2. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   4 hours ago

      turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
      If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
      turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a TDS- addled lying pile of lefty shit.

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    3. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   1 hour ago

      You were banned for posting a link to child porn.

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  35. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   4 hours ago

    Don't worry Liz the same totalitarian fags saying Kirk was a misogynist are the same retards that think the Muslim animals love the gays and the chicks

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  36. mad.casual   4 hours ago

    Is it just that any devout Christian is considered a terrible sexist pig?

    I'm not offended as a Christian man, I'm offended as a guy you were warned and/or told your boyfriend not to worry about!

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    1. Gaear Grimsrud   3 hours ago

      Oh god. Classic.

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    2. tracerv   2 hours ago

      Show was money.

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    3. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   1 hour ago

      I’m not an anti-dentite!

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  37. Moonrocks   4 hours ago

    Is it just that any devout Christian is considered a terrible sexist pig?

    It's that anyone not sufficiently leftist is a terrible sexist pig.

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  38. shrike   4 hours ago

    I have some sad news to report, Peanuts.

    The legendary Cheetah III strip club is closing. AKA the Spring Street ballet.

    Developers bought the prime location to build a high-rise.

    Fucking criminal.

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    1. Chumby   4 hours ago

      https://psychcentral.com/disorders/treating-pedophilia#aversion-therapy

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      1. Randy Sax   4 hours ago

        Kurt Cobain treatment would be more effective.

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        1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   3 hours ago

          Nah. I’m thinking wood chippers.

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    2. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   4 hours ago

      turd, the TDS-addled ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
      If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
      turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

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    3. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   3 hours ago

      Ok, why do you care? They’re female and over the age of 12. That’s not exactly your type.

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    4. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   1 hour ago

      You were banned for posting a link to child porn.

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  39. Randy Sax   4 hours ago

    The "Charlie Kirk is a misogynist" line strikes me as so weird and untrue.

    The people that believe that hang out in tribal cults and never talk to anyone that has a difference of opinion. They think they need therapy after having to talk to dad at thanksgiving. "Person I don't like is racist, misogynist, homophobe, etc." is never questioned. Truth doesn't matter to them. It gives them pats on the back from fellow tribe members.

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    1. shrike   4 hours ago

      There needs to be a more precise word for fundie-nut types who oppose the modern women's movement.

      I guess "fundie-nut" won't be adopted.

      "Conservative" is too broad in meaning.

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      1. Zeb   4 hours ago

        What about the non-religious and generally open minded people who oppose the modern women's movement? There are a lot of us out there. One can think that women should be free and even encouraged to pursue whatever careers and lifestyles (and even abortions) they like while still understanding that there are real differences between the sexes that actually matter and actually are relevant to social interactions and moral standards.

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        1. shrike   3 hours ago

          Hmmm. that is a good question.

          I presume you oppose part of the modern women's movement then.

          I can't imagine what it would be.

          Title IX? Only applies when federal funding is involved.

          The pill?

          Are there "real differences"? Sure.

          Why would a secular person oppose the mwm?

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          1. Randy Sax   3 hours ago

            Why would a secular man be against the "all men are rapist, sexist pigs, and all women need to be believed always. Men are suppressors, women are suppressed. Kill all men" I wonder why.

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          2. Zeb   3 hours ago

            Mostly because it is making women miserable and fucking up relations between the sexes. The denial of real physical and psychological differences between the sexes and lack of regard for the importance of reproduction and motherhood (and on the other side, the importance and utility of traditional masculinity) are probably what I have the biggest problem with.

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            1. shrike   3 hours ago

              I agree with that observation.

              But that is just the way shit goes. In a free society that safeguards individual rights it will happen.

              I guess the Muslim way of burqas and oppression would insure women stay in their lane.

              (for the record I despise all religion - especially Islam)

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            2. BYODB   3 hours ago

              One of the more obvious points that gets overlooked is that if there is, in fact, something one can call 'toxic masculinity' than so too must there be a 'toxic femininity'.

              I'm sure all of us can think of examples of both, curious they are unable to do so.

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              1. Zeb   3 hours ago

                I'd say both definitely exist and should be examined. The problem is that "toxic masculinity" becomes "masculinity is toxic". Men do tend more towards violence and stupidity in the tail of the curve, but too much, or the wrong kind of femininity causes all kinds of social problems too. It's almost like there is a good reason for differences between the sexes.

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                1. BYODB   3 hours ago


                  "masculinity is toxic"

                  And see, that right there is overtly sexist. You're not wrong that this is often how it gets stated though, which tells us rather a lot about the people saying it.

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              2. Quicktown Brix   3 hours ago

                so too must there be a 'toxic femininity'.

                ^ Here's a guy that left a cupboard door open.

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                1. Zeb   2 hours ago

                  Or has worked in a workplace where there are a lot of women. I've mostly worked in male dominated areas, but it seems like once there is a certain critical mass of women, the level of drama skyrockets. Of course it's not all women (and not all men are immune), but that does seem to be a general trend.

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                  1. Quicktown Brix   2 hours ago

                    You're not kidding. The nice thing about being autistic-like is being completely oblivious to this stuff. I have a female coworker that first pointed this same thing out to me about female managers though.

                    I wonder what DLAM would say?

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                  2. Dillinger   2 hours ago

                    >>certain critical mass of women

                    if they're not naked, two.

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                    1. Quicktown Brix   2 hours ago

                      I thought you'd go with anything above ~125 lbs being critical mass of women...although with proper proportions...

                    2. Dillinger   2 hours ago

                      lol well-played use of mass

                  3. BYODB   2 hours ago

                    I worked with nurses, who are overwhelmingly female, for almost 20 years in various capacities. Many are professional, some are not.

                    Male nurses, as a general rule, don't give a fuck and just do their jobs. Doubly so with travel nurses of both genders.

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                2. BYODB   2 hours ago


                  ^ Here's a guy that left a cupboard door open.

                  I get that it's a joke, but I was more specifically thinking of all the Karen's in the world. Perhaps it's no coincidence the name we use for those types of people is a woman's name.

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                  1. Quicktown Brix   2 hours ago

                    Yeah, Karens and I'd argue wokeness would qualify.

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        2. Gaear Grimsrud   2 hours ago

          I am of that camp.

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  40. shrike   4 hours ago

    Brad Rafenesperger, the Georgia Sec of State who defied Dictator-wannabe Donnie's demand to commit vote fraud in 2020, is running for Governor.

    I will support him just because he is honest.

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    1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   4 hours ago

      turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
      If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
      turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of slimy lefty shit.

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      1. shrike   4 hours ago

        Fuck you, Sevo, you Tenderloin splooge-mopping fairy.

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        1. Chumby   3 hours ago

          https://psychcentral.com/disorders/treating-pedophilia#aversion-therapy

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        2. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   3 hours ago

          That’s still better than being a pederast like you, Shrike.

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          1. shrike   3 hours ago

            You and Chumface are pathetic with your campaign to silence me with lies.

            It is not working.

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            1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   3 hours ago

              And what exactly happened to your original SPB account?

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            2. Chumby   2 hours ago

              https://psychcentral.com/disorders/treating-pedophilia#aversion-therapy

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            3. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   60 minutes ago

              It’s not a lie that you were banned for posting a link to child porn.

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    2. Bertram Guilfoyle   2 hours ago

      We know you're a strong supporter of "Senater Tim Scott"

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    3. Michael Ejercito   2 hours ago

      Since when did Trump want vote fraud?

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    4. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   1 hour ago

      You were banned for posting a link to child porn.

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  41. mad.casual   3 hours ago

    Just so you guys know, I'm fully religious too.

    Akin to the above, I'm not offended as a Christian, I'm offended as a rational human being that you don't realize that this is like saying, "Just so you guys know, I have black friends too." while using your own feces to scribble a lynching on the nearest memorial.

    Love thy neighbor... I'm not going to love a guy...

    Right, we knew where this was heading from the "Just so you guys know..." lie. You don't believe any of it. You're just too cowardly, weak, and stupid to stand in honest and earnest support of your (lack of) convictions.

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  42. Use the Schwartz   3 hours ago

    Aw, look the the morons are painting rocks.

    Anyway...

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  43. NoVaNick   3 hours ago

    Why didn’t Robinson just rob a bank and take hostages, then demand payment for his partner’s transitioning?

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    1. Gaear Grimsrud   2 hours ago

      Attica! Attica! But seriously. The dog days are past for the summer.

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      1. tracerv   1 hour ago

        I'm dying ova hear!!

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  44. Rick James   3 hours ago

    I feel like making this comment is kind of "Yeah, that's some b.s." that doesn't really add anything to the discussion, but how in holy hell does a judge dismiss 1st degree murder for Mangione? Are they really suggesting this wasn't planned with malice of forethought?

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    1. Dillinger   3 hours ago

      2d degree conviction can still get life?

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    2. Quicktown Brix   2 hours ago

      This is due to weirdness in NY state law. 1st degree murder doesn't refer to premeditated, but killing a cop, terrorism or other specific situations.

      Credit for pointing this out is due to some other poster here when we discussed this before, but I can't remember who it was.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_in_New_York_law

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    3. Zeb   2 hours ago

      I gather that 2nd degree in NY is equivalent to 1st degree in many other states and 1st degree requires some pretty specific aggravating factors. SO it's not as if he's facing a minor charge or isn't accused of premeditation. At least that's what I've gathered on the subject.

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      1. Gaear Grimsrud   2 hours ago

        Looks like the maximum penalty for 2nd degree murder allows for parole which is far too lenient in my opinion. This guy could be walking the street in ten years.

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        1. BYODB   2 hours ago

          Forget it, Jake, it's New York.

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        2. Zeb   2 hours ago

          I agree it's still too lenient. But that seems more a problem with NY law. Just pointing out that 2nd degree doesn't mean what it does in most states.

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      2. Rick James   2 hours ago

        Thank you (and to quicktown brix) for the explanation.

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        1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   1 hour ago

          Yeah, New York has some really weird quirks to their laws not found elsewhere in the US. I’ve picked up on them over the years watching Law & Order.

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  45. Dillinger   3 hours ago

    >>... from the University of North Carolina Wilmington:

    Ms. Zambrano's friends should help her with that Keystone Light belly

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    1. NoVaNick   2 hours ago

      She needs a good hard something in her mouth

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  46. Dillinger   3 hours ago

    one thing's for certain Matt Gutman notices bulges

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  47. Dillinger   2 hours ago

    >>I'm a little torn on the nastiness that's emerging in the wake of the Kirk assassination and how it ought to be dealt with.

    I'm enjoying the tears of the recently unemployed and recently expelled ... the mugshot of the Texas Tech chick was delicious

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  48. Dillinger   2 hours ago

    >>It's disturbing to me that some large portion of the country is totally unaware of what the other half believes, and so quick to look past their honorable and consistent actions

    you ... write for a political webzine

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    1. mad.casual   2 hours ago

      +1 You... have a clip of someone defacing a monument that starts out "Just so you guys know, I'm fully religious too." like someone telling a bunch of tailgaters, while pissing on their grill, that they know how to grand slam a football.

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      1. Dillinger   1 hour ago

        fully religious like only does anal to remain virginal?

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      2. Ajsloss   45 minutes ago

        "The endzone is where you do a touchdown." -Kat Timpf

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  49. Rick James   2 hours ago

    It's disturbing to me that some large portion of the country is totally unaware of what the other half believes

    I'm not sure it's half. But it is media and journalists in general, and it's been that way for a long... long time. Hell, I remember the 2016 election the Seattle media literally followed around the one Trump voter in Seattle with a microphone for several weeks after the election, to try to understand this strange and alien creature. Then I read another local columnist who was so perplexed by the outcome felt he needed to drive to one of those icky places where truckers (whatever they are) sit and drink folgers from chipped porcelain and find out what makes them tick.

    No, seriously.

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    1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 hours ago

      But it is media and journalists in general, and it's been that way for a long... long time.

      I just read some lefty retard going off on a sports board I frequent about how his side needs to make sports and politics a combined construct (LOL, as if his side hasn't been doing that for a while now), and that there needs to be something done to break up talk radio because it's supposedly radicalizing right wingers (as in, "we need to monopolize media to Save Democracy").

      They're still stuck in this 2005 paradigm where you can spazz out about Dubya and post a bunch of clips from The Daily Show of Jon Stewart doing his stupid faggot mugging for the camera, and people will go along with it because it's so cool, maan! They really are clueless as to how much they've alienated and continue to alienate normies, particularly Zoomer and Gen Alpha males, which is why they keep pounding on these blatantly gaslighting headlines, despite the fact that pretty much anyone on Twitter or Facebook can now push back against their narratives without getting shadow-banned anymore.

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      1. Rick James   2 hours ago

        I just read some lefty retard going off on a sports board I frequent about how his side needs to make sports and politics a combined construct (LOL, as if his side hasn't been doing that for a while now), and that there needs to be something done to break up talk radio because it's supposedly radicalizing right wingers (as in, "we need to monopolize media to Save Democracy").

        Yeah, that would he shrike, who still thinks 'talk radio' is the font of right-wing thought in the country.

        Edit: It's kind of like how Barack Obama suggested there would be no conservative opinion in America if it weren't for Fox News.

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      2. damikesc   9 minutes ago

        In hindsight, how much did Jon Stewart lead to the sheer shitting of the ability to discuss things in this country? He seemed to champion simply ignoring all dissenting viewpoints to a degree nobody did before.

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    2. JFree   2 hours ago

      Hell, I remember the 2016 election the Seattle media literally followed around the one Trump voter in Seattle with a microphone for several weeks after the election, to try to understand this strange and alien creature.

      I remember the after election coverage on PBS. Where Judy Woodruff (I think) said something like 'This outcome is completely unexpected. Do we journalists live in our own bubble?'

      That self-awareness lasted about three minutes.

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  50. JFree   2 hours ago

    Robinson, after being repeatedly contacted by his parents, indicated to them that he was suicidal; they convinced him to come to their family home in Washington, Utah, and the parents contacted a family friend who is a retired deputy sheriff who helped call the proper authorities...Prosecutors are seeking the death penalty...Robinson seems so bizarre—relatively recently radicalized, not totally estranged from a loving family.

    Well I hope the parents in that loving family get some comfort in knowing that they assisted the state in killing their kid rather than letting the kid do anything rash..

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  51. Rick James   2 hours ago

    Oh, has Reason even discussed the Kash Patel exchange with Schiff? Jesus H. Keerist, they need to build a 900' tall statue of Kash Patel that casts a sun-blotting shadow on the Lincoln Memorial.

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    1. mad.casual   1 hour ago

      My only critique is that the aid behind Schiff could've done a little better job on her ring-girl outfit.

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    2. tracerv   1 hour ago

      You should see Nancy Mace going scorched earth on Omar right now.

      https://x.com/NancyMace/status/1968339223112790418

      "Coming from someone who calls her brother “husband,” that’s rich."

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    3. JesseAz (RIP CK)   43 minutes ago

      Now go run to the media was great.

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    4. HorseConch   40 minutes ago

      After yesterday, Patel deserves a statue. I beg them to bring him back weekly.

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