Jonathan Haidt: Kids Should Put Down the Phones and Take More Risks
"We're too afraid they'll get abducted," says the author of The Anxious Generation. "That sets kids up to be weaker."
When I was a kid, childhood meant playing on the street, riding my bike, hanging out with friends.
Most kids now experience a different childhood.
Jonathan Haidt's bestselling book, The Anxious Generation, talks about that. He calls it "a tragedy in two acts."
"Act One, we lose the play-based childhood. We stop letting kids run around outside. We're too afraid they'll get abducted.…We get gradual loss of play from the '90s through the early 2010s.…That sets kids up to be weaker."
Because kids who don't have real experiences are less resilient.
"If you have a play-based childhood with no adult supervision," says Haidt, "you learn to be self-supervising. Sometimes you get lost and you're scared, but you find your way back. Sometimes some mean kids threaten to beat you up, but you either talk your way out of it or run away.…Those sorts of things toughen you."
Today's kids face a different reality.
"If all you do is sit inside on a computer, you're missing out on your childhood. That brings us to the Second Act of the tragedy, which I call the 'great rewiring of childhood.' Between 2010 and 2015, everything changes…you get higher video speeds, on-demand porn. You get everything in this little box….If you spend five to 10 hours on your device, there's a lot of things you're not doing.…Sleep goes down, time with friends goes down, exercise goes down."
In 2010, he says, people ages 18-24 spent a couple hours a day hanging out with friends. Not today.
"Once they get a smartphone…time with friends plunges. But one of the best things you can do as a kid is hang out with friends, joke around, have adventures."
Haidt proposes four things to help reduce the damage.
No. 1: No smartphones before high school.
No. 2: No social media before 16.
No. 3: Phone-free schools.
No. 4: Far more unsupervised play and childhood independence.
This is needed, he says, because "Kids have been shifted from 'discover' mode into 'defend' mode. They are anxious; they're not risk-taking. Kids need far more independence, free play and responsibility in the real world."
He's convinced many parents and governments.
"All around the Western world, people are acting on the first three: Parents are fed up with phones, teachers are fed up with not being able to reach kids."
Recommendation No. 4 is tougher, he says.
"Convincing parents that they need to back off, send their kid out to play, not monitor them every moment, is a much harder sell."
To promote his recommendations, he's partnered with Free-Range Kids author Lenore Skenazy.
"She and I co-founded an organization called Let Grow. We're advocating for giving kids back independence that will lead to them becoming competent, capable, happy young adults. We propose that schools and families work together to give kids a lot more unsupervised time."
"Let them play freely and maybe get hurt?" I ask.
"The world is much safer now than it was when you and I grew up. Drunk driving is way down. Crime is way down. Kids are much less likely to be harmed."
But parents and kids don't realize that. It's a reason college students, he says, fear the world.
"Our stereotypes about college students were that they're in 'discover mode,' up for fun, eager to go to parties. It's only in discover mode that you learn anything.…[But today] they're much more in 'defend' mode."
In our full hour-long interview, Haidt and I talk about how his work has already persuaded lots of schools to ban cellphones during the school day.
In addition, more than 1,000 schools are trying the (free) Let Grow Experience. One monthly homework assignment: Go home and do something NEW on your own.
Having a life is what makes kids sensible and strong.
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The Stoss is still The Man!
"Kids Should Put Down the Phones and Take More Risks."
Absolutely not!
That idea goes the very grain of our glorious socialist nanny state and would only enrage the Karens and helicopter moms everywhere.
Hold on a minute! This other Reason article says that Haidt's science is faulty.
And it concerns me greatly as a youth rights supporter, because it looks to me like yet another moral panic that curtails young people's freedom.
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That's hank, dude. He's a regular troll and his shtick is to string together nearly incomprehensible nicknames he gives things, unrelated historical references, and nonsensical conclusions into some wacky word salad.
He thinks Nixon is still in office (or maybe Ford, he won't tell me) so his references are all framed like he's an early 70s hippy. This is actually the most cogent post anyone's seen from him in quite a while, it's just straight fraudulent, but mostly he's going to tell you "Comstock, Nixon, Girl Bulliers" and the like, but there's no logic behind it.
Either mute it, or ignore it.
He's been desperately trying to take over Agile Cyborg's niche here for years, and falling on his face every fucking time.
AC's drug-addled posts were charming, surreal, and elegant. Hank's are the rantings of a bum with a cheeseboard pissing himself.
If I let my kid do what I did when I was young, I'd be in prison.
To be fair, you probably should be.
There ya go! In Prison with Kirk Cartman is the National Socialist solution to everything.
Yeah, someone from the Karenocracy will inevitably snitch on you.
I've mentioned before that the Amber Hagerman case absolutely mind-fucked Gen-Xers and Xennials. The whole helicopter parent thing really took off after that happened, same as school shootings going up after Columbine.
Take risks like calling a man a man, and throwing the okay sign?
When I was a teenager, DEA abductions were an ongoing problem...
When I was a kid, childhood meant playing on the street, riding my bike, hanging out with friends.
OK, Stoss - I'm going to tell you the same thing I tell every boomer grandparent watching cable TV and leaving voicemails that say "I'm texting you right now."
It's not the same world.
We get gradual loss of play from the '90s through the early 2010s.
You know why?
Because during the 90s we were guilted into tolerating the LGBT. Turns out, they're all pedophiles! Gosh, who knew! Except everyone. Like really really really predatory ones, at that. With hard drives full of child porn. Warnings were there, but they were ignored.
00s? Oh gosh, imagine what would happen if we started thinking bad things about an inferior culture that flew airplanes into our skyscrapers. "DO NOT DO THAT," was the message. Remember? "In fact, now YOU'RE the suspect - so take off your shoes, belt, and pants while I put on this blue glove. You in the burka with the scowling bearded man clamping his hand around your neck, you're OK. We wouldn't want to profile. We're very tolerant, you see."
10s? Guys, look, they're Dreamers, OK? They have DREAMS! We have to let them - and literally anyone and everyone else - in en masse over our border! They're victims, y'know! They need the American Dream of stealing, drugging, raping, and murdering American citizens! It's our duty to welcome them! It says so on Lady Liberty! Sorta.
And now the 20s. Where the left is openly assassinating healthcare CEOs and civil rights leaders. And not just killing them, but defending, celebrating, and bragging about it! (Also, pay no attention to Muslimsota where they're clearly instituting Sharia Law.)
Ooh, quick - a little in-between there. Maybe there's some "pandemic" we can exploit that is 100% harmless to them, little more than a seasonal cold to the rest of us, and knowingly affects only the elderly, obese, and already sick in a detrimental way. Let's use that as an excuse to isolate everyone in front of their idiot boxes for... as long as it takes to "flatten the curve". (Meaning indefinitely.)
So. Let's see. Should we let our kids play outside where a LGBT Pedo or a border jumping sex offending scumbag from an inferior culture that eats housepets is going to snatch them and do horrific things, or do we send them to the idiot box that will indoctrinate them to reject America, Christianity, and Goodness in favor of becoming a gender confused furry that can't wait to kill their own progeny and genuinely believes that anyone who disagrees with them even slightly is an existential evil whose killing is not only encouraged but defended and celebrated.
Gee Stossel, "take more risks" takes on an entirely different tenor when it goes from "Old Lady Jones might call your mom because you were picking crabapples from her backyard tree" to "A faggot and/or illegal has a significantly higher likelihood of kidnapping and raping you if you go outside (for which the authorities will likely blame your parents for "letting" it happen), so stay inside in front of your screen where we can groom you to become the faggot or illegal (or at least their respective enablers) useful idiot we want you to be. Hey, and don't just stop at the kids - how about you be a genuine refugee escaping war. You may or may not get stabbed repeatedly on a train as you're socially guilted into sitting next to someone that all your warning bells are telling you not to!"
Stossel, it's not 1960 anymore. Real parents with real kids living in this Progressive hellscape can't just glibly say "put down the phones and take more risks." LENORE, PAY ATTENTION.
That might be true when the only thing the village has to worry about is the occasional ambitious wolf skulking around the perimeter, with an armed community that LOVES killing wolves and wearing their pelts as a sign of achievement. But it's NOT that anymore.
Now it's barbarians at the gates. And the solution IS NOT "go hang out with the barbarians, it'll be a learning experience of growth!" And when you say it is, it forces one to conclude that you're just as much the enemy as they are.
Get help.
Believe me, I welcome anyone who wants to help fight the scourge of LGBT Pedo, Islam, illegal immigration, and leftism.
Anyone who wants to fight them or anyone enabling them/grooming Americans in their name, is a welcome ally. We'll take any help we can get.
Thanks for the rally cry, friend!
In the big picture.
It's just a consequence of "The State" owns 'all' kids premise.
because 'Guns' don't raise kids. Wrong tool for the job.
'Guns' are an oppressive tool.
They can either be used to oppress criminals or oppress non-criminals.
That's it. That's all.
"When I was a kid, childhood meant playing on the street, riding my bike, hanging out with friends."
Same here. I learned independence, self confidence, decision making, and critical thinking. I also got into trouble a lot in school.
My government's authoritarian ban on social media for under 16s is the responsibility of it and it alone. But the fact Jonathan Haidt visited my country to applaud this naked attack on free speech and free association proves that his only appearance in Reason should be in one of the "Reason versus" debates.
In between this hagiography and Liz Wolfe's support for curfews and attacks on women's bodily autonomy, I sometimes wonder if I've accidentally visited the Heritage website.