The Perverse Incentives for Snitch-Tagging Teachers Who Criticized Charlie Kirk
Under current First Amendment jurisprudence, more targeted harassment means it's more constitutional to fire a government worker.
It's often said that the First Amendment exists to protect unpopular speech. Benign comments about the weather or statements in support of things everyone already likes aren't likely to be the subject of government censorship.
In the case of First Amendment protections for government workers' off-the-job speech, this dynamic is reversed.
Public employees have robust protections against being fired for such speech, unless it proves exceptionally unpopular.
This feature of First Amendment jurisprudence, and the bad incentives it creates for cancel culture campaigns, is on full display following the horrific assassination of Charlie Kirk last week.
In the wake of the conservative influencer's murder, a lot of people said unkind, uncharitable, and even obscene things about the man, including, in some cases, explicit praise for his assassination.
In a country where some 22 million civilians are employed by the government, the pool of people who've made nasty comments about Kirk naturally includes some public sector workers.
Public school teachers seem to be overrepresented in this demographic. They've become a specific target of conservatives' cancelation campaigns.
Unlike most private employees who can be fired at will, government employees have robust protections against being fired for their off-the-job speech.
As Eugene Volokh detailed in a post at The Volokh Conspiracy shortly after Kirk's death, government employees can only be disciplined for their speech when that speech is said as part of their job duties, the speech is not a matter of public concern, and the damage of the speech to the government's own ability to do its job is outweighed by the benefit of the speech.
Volokh stresses that these protections even cover comments supporting violence, citing the U.S. Supreme Court's decision in Rankin v. McPherson, in which a majority of justices ruled that a police department employee's firing for praising the Ronald Reagan assassination in a private conversation violated the First Amendment.
The facts of that case would seem to offer a pretty close parallel to public school teachers who praised Kirk's assassination on social media. Their speech was not made on the job, and speech about Kirk's assassination is obviously a matter of public concern.
At first blush, this would suggest that even government employees who explicitly praised Kirk's assassination have First Amendment protections against being fired for that speech, however distasteful.
Whether or not they can, in fact, be fired turns on how much their comments disrupt government operations.
Consequently, the more outrage that can be directed at a particular public worker's employer, and the more of a headache retaining that worker becomes as a result, the less the First Amendment will protect them from losing their job.
That creates a powerful, toxic incentive to gin up anger at individual government workers as a means of erasing First Amendment protections they have for off-the-job speech.
Organic outrage about a public employee's private statements from people who heard them directly and have to interface with that person is one thing.
In the case of comments made on social media, people who would never have to deal with a government worker can see their intemperate thoughts and use them to get them fired.
This encourages Kirk's supporters to actively go hunting for comments they find offensive. The harm created by those statements becomes almost self-inflicted.
It's hard to imagine a better recipe for creating cancel culture mobs.
Over at National Review, Michael Brendan Dougherty writes that "the critique of cancel culture wasn't intended to protect all speech from normative judgment, but to preserve the necessary space for democratic deliberation and contestation."
Professionally penalizing people for reveling in Kirk's assassination, he argues, is distinct from going after people for merely expressing a negative view of him.
That's a reasonable distinction to draw. But it misses the fact that cancel culture pile-ons are not particularly discerning once they get going. Already, we're seeing efforts to identify people who literally celebrated Kirk's death morph into efforts to get people fired for merely posting something critical about him.
Kirk's online defenders have snitch-tagged the employers of government workers over social media posts saying they don't care about the assassination, that they didn't like Kirk even as they condemn his assassination, and even criticizing Kirk prior to his assassination.
With enough online outrage, even relatively benign critical comments could potentially become firing offenses.
This is particularly concerning given that government officials themselves are urging people to be outraged.
"So, when you see someone celebrating Charlie's murder, call them out and, hell, call their employer. We don't believe in political violence, but we do believe in civility," said Vice President J.D. Vance while guest-hosting Charlie Kirk's podcast yesterday.
Texas' education commissioner has encouraged school superintendents to report teachers' "inappropriate comments" to state officials, as have the top education officials in Florida and Oklahoma.
There's always been the thicker critique of cancel culture made by folks like Reason's Robby Soave, who condemned efforts to go hunting for the worst comments made by nonpublic figures in the heat of the moment to their small social media followings.
It makes for a less vindictive world and more robust discourse when we can agree to avoid massive pile-ons of even repugnant comments made in that context.
Kirk was undoubtedly a polarizing figure. The strong feelings, both negative and positive, that he elicited in people are one reason his murder has become such a huge public conversation.
It's inevitable in that context that some people will say intemperate, mean-spirited things about the man.
It's foolish to trust online snitch-taggers to be judicious in determining who they're going to try to get fired, particularly when the more outrage they can generate serves to route around First Amendment protections for government workers' speech.
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Rankin v. McPherson is a terrible decision and gives government workers exrra protections which is a violation of equal protection. They should be able to be fired at will with a Constitutional hearing, just like the rest of us. This is part of the reason we have Rubber Rooms.
I disagree that it gives anyone “special consideration” but rather that it emphasizes that our constitutional rights also pertain to so-called public employees.
No. Private companies can still fire as they please. Now it becomes much harder for public employees to have the same consequences that other non-government employees get, and on top of that they get our tax money.
Repeal Rankin v. McPherson.
They literally insult our intelligence daily. I thought the right hated cancel culture. Oh, that's right, only when it happens to them.
"So, when you see someone celebrating Charlie's murder, call them out and, hell, call their employer. We don't believe in political violence, but we do believe in civility," said Vice President J.D. Vance while guest-hosting Charlie Kirk's podcast yesterday.
No one is more divisive than Trump who couldn't care less about mending political fences.
I wish my friend had such protections when he was fired by a woke and "beloved" assistant superintendent in a Texas school district. And don't mention attorneys. He tried to get one - $75.00 for fifteen minutes for another woke bastard from Princeton to say no.
Every leftist needs to lose their job the moment they open their mouths. That would be barely adequate payback
The GOP is working on full sainthood for Kirk. Look for him on the $100 bill replacing Franklin. Any criticism of Kirk will result in deportation.
https://psychcentral.com/disorders/treating-pedophilia#aversion-therapy
Send that link to Trump. He needs it.
Special Ed, you’re white knighting for a pedophile that posted a link to child pornography in these comments. Congrats.
On the other hand you, chumbucket, regularly post support for genocidal Zionist tyrant pedos for all to see vs these fanciful claims you make about shrike that apparently get your juices flowing.
Shrike got one pf his accounts banned for posting a link to child pornography. The entire thread was taken down. Congrats, you’re now white knight for that too.
Here's what I used to post, suitably modernized.
A few years back shrike posted kiddy porn to this site, and his initial handle was banned. The link below details all the evidence surrounding that ban. A decent person would honor that ban and stay away from Reason. Instead shrike keeps showing up, acting as if all people should just be ok with a kiddy-porn-posting asshole hanging around. Since we cannot get shrike to stay away, the only thing we can do is post this boilerplate.
https://reason.com/2022/08/06/biden-comforts-the-comfortable/?comments=true#comment-9635836
Don't respond to shrike, just shun him.
He’s here for supply.
Yup. His shrine will be next to that of Saint Babbitt.
Keep talking like that and you’re going to be placed at the top of the genocidal pedo Zionist tyrants hit list and don’t take a harbor cruise.
We get it, you're an antisemitic.
Hamas could use a guy like you.
Did these lunatics see the press conference that the killer just said he hates Kirk's hate, not his politics?!? Another fact for the right wing to ignore.
And that is a false premise, which anyone not on the left would more than likely know. Charlie Kirk never stated hate for anyone. In fact, there are multiple videos of him rebuffing those who accused him of hating groups.
LMAO. It is hate to mock the beating of Paul Pelosi. It is hate to say Joe Biden should be killed. It is hate to say gays should be stoned to death. Just like I said, you ignore the fact, like a good boy goosestepper.
Genuinely curious. When he says "Kirk's hate", what do you think he is are talking about?
The point is, it was NOT politically motivated like all the whiny cry baby right wingers want it to be, like the Pelosi beating was and the Hortman killing was.
If the "hate" he was talking about was Kirk's politics, then it was politically motivated...
If he was spewing left wing nonsense, we would have been hearing all about it
Lol. “Dudes can be chicks” and “misgendering is trans genocide!” IS “left wing nonsense”, you fucking moron.
You assholes got this freak all riled up with your “left wing nonsense” fascist bullshit, and this is what happens.
You brought this on. I don’t blame you for not wanting to take responsibility. That’s what leftists do.
Idiot.
Patterson did not mention any of that, nor did I. I had never heard the things you have in quotes. In fact, Patterson did not mention politics at all; he was just tired of the hate the righties like Kirk spew every day of their pathetic lives. A fact you will of course ignore because righties do nto care about facts,
Every Republican accusation is an admission. #fascist
Lol. You weren’t aware that the left preaches a persecution complex to gullible, mentally unstable kids like robinson? And that lead to murder? Several times now?
How convenient. Idiot.
How convenient when you make up bullshit like this. LOL magas are the dumbest fucks on earth.
If he was spewing left wing nonsense, and someone saw that nonsense and thought it was promoting paedophilia and so decided to kill him (and left messages saying "you don't negotiate with paedophiles"), it doesn't take a genius to connect the dots and think that that would be politically motivated.
Its the same thing here. Kirk voiced his political opinions -> some people viewed these opinions as hateful -> this guy believed it to be beyond the pale and somehow got the idea that killing someone over opinions you strongly dislike is ok. Again, it doesn't take a genius to connect the dots.
In the debates I watched I didn't hear about politics at all. It was all about gender roles and identity. Only maga fucks make this about politics. People have to fight for their adult rights. Right wingers are just cry babies and filled with hate. Just like their leader, talking about hate at a fucking memorial of a guy who supposedly preached non hate.
If the people forced to fund them want them gone, they should be gone.
You want so-called public employees who only agree with YOUR politics, you dumb fat mother fucker?
I want to stop being coerced into funding them. I understand while employers are parting ways with such horrible human beings.
Yeah like employees you might discover are gay, Jews, or whatever you don’t like that has no bearing on their abilities to perform their job, right?
You’re the rapist, why do you hate gays and Jews? Why would you fire someone for being gay or a Jew? That wouldn’t have any impact on their ability to perform their job.
You under the influence of cheap whiskey tonight, fat boy?
I’m neither fat nor do I drink alcohol. You’re really bad at this.
Why is Reason --- a libertarian site, allegedly --- fighting to protect the jobs of government employees?
Did they criticize him or praise his death?
Organic outrage about a public employee's private statements from people who heard them directly and have to interface with that person is one thing.
If reposted from their social media, are the statements private?
This article is another in a long line of reason articles that government employees are better than you and should never face consequences.
Do you even libertarian, bro?
Conservatives get censored at the direct say so of the government and this rag cheers meanwhile leftists are shown for their actions and it's wall to wall with how I must support people that hate me and want me dead. Fuck these Marxist scum.
You engage in what is known in psychological terms as transference. Apparently you want yourself dead. Please seek psychiatric assistance. They might even be able to get you a room with cell service. If so, please keep us informed as to how you’re doing but first let be go get a bucket of popcorn.
These people wanted and got Charlie Kirk dead. Of course they also want us dead for disagreeing with them.
Don't side with such vile people.
Ya ok, Kirk said Biden should be killed. Hortmann was actually killed by a man with a list of Democrat targets. YOU are projecting your sides murder goals. According to the latest Patterson did not mention Kirk's politics only his hate
Your side got little kids at catholic schools killed. Twice.
Own it, bitch.
Hortmann claimed he was acting under the direction of his Democrat Governor, and I don't recall any Republicans celebrating his killings.
Who's projecting here?
Probably the side that lies -- the one that assured us that Pretendent Biden was "sharp as a tack" and any video implying otherwise were "cheap fakes".
You can say what you will about Charlie Kirk, but we know full well your reputation for lying. And now you're trying to downplay and divert from an assassination -- an assassination that might as well have been done by every Leftist there is -- to the horror of everyone who is normal.
Ya ok, Kirk said Biden should be killed.
Show us where he said this.
Applauding when Democrats are murdered is patriotic.
Applauding when Republicans are murdered is a crime.
Right and wrong are determined by who, not what.
Yeah, basically that is where we are now. Only what are perceived by morons as conservative politics are allowed. Outright fucking amazing.
You two are mistaken. No such applause ever happened when a Democrat was killed.
Very evil of both of you to suggest otherwise.
Your side got little kids at catholic schools killed. Twice.
Own it, bitch.
who was/is applauding every week when you low IQ brainwashed far left Democrat cultists commit mass murders in the blue sh1thole cities?
Sir shits from his mouth, Specifically what have I EVER said indicates I’m a far left Democrat?
Sir, this is reason. You can say shit
Who applauded when a Democrat was murdered?
Definitely nobody here.
Remember when Democrats were targeted in Minnesota? The response was some lame lip service followed by condemnation of Democrats. Were flags ordered to be at half staff? Hell no. Was every group the killer was part of scrutinized and condemned? Hell no. Just some hand waving and lame excuses. That's what people who applaud in private do in public.
You're heavily mistaken.
- No one applauded the Minnesota incident.
- There is legit reason to blame Democratic policies. Look at what happened to Ilyna Zarutska.
- The shooter did not hold mainstream beliefs, unlike Tyler Robinson. The receipts can be seen at sites like Bluesky.
- The murder of Charlie Kirk is at the level of Martin Luther King and Malcolm X. His death is causing far more impact than the Minnesota folks. That's why the flags are ordered at half staff.
You are in no position to condemn anyone but yourself.
Right and wrong are determined by who, not what.
It's amusing the poster child for someone who determines right and wrong based on which team they support is complaining about other people also doing it.
Should I not care about the character of those who teach my kids and educate future generations? I accept that most teachers are shitlibs. Drawing the line at cheering the murder of an innocent man is not unreasonable.
Fuck you.
Master batter, not saying that at all but fair point. The reality is you don’t get to determine the mindset of so-called public employees who express personal opinions in their private time. Go find a private school that coincides more congruently with the beliefs you want expressed to your children. Or if you’re looking for more government control, pack up your family and move to fucking North Korea or similar. Hell, maybe even the UK!
When our tax money is headed for these organizations, then yes, we DO get to determine what they can and cannot do. And we have determined that praising a murder warrants a firing.
We'll gladly take our kids to private school if it exempt us from paying additional taxes for public schools.
Aren't you from the same side who wouldn't hesitate to fire a teacher who said something ten years ago online that is now construed to be racist?
How in the world do you expect us to give you guys any credibility at all?
That this is too much of a stretch for Reason, who should want ALL public employees fired, says everything you need to know.
When someone tells you they are sociopathic, you don't let them spend 180 days a year with little children. And pay them in perpetuity from the public coffers.
Mr. Wizzle, do you know the actual clinical definition for identifying a diagnosis such as what you apparently believe to be a “sociopath “, ya damn dummy?
As if we give a shit as to what some clinic says.
Keep the kids far away from these sociopaths.
If someone celebrating Charlie Kirk's murder turns out to not be a "sociopath", I'm still not losing any sleep over the firing.
We don't really need to know why a given individual is celebrating cold-blooded murder. It's safe to say that whatever the reason, that person shouldn't be teaching kids, and that person shouldn't be enforcing the law, and that person shouldn't be providing medical care, and that person shouldn't be fighting fires, and so forth.
Let the psychiatrists sort them out and help them if they can be helped -- but they shouldn't be in positions of care and power in the meantime.
Whats funny is Reason largely ignored the 1k J6ers who committed no violence facing 20 year charges. For their speech.
They ignored Mackey being sent to jail over a meme.
They barely noticed protesting pro lifers facing 10 years under FACE.
They ignore parents at school boards under FBI investigation.
They defended censorship during COVID until even the NYT couldn't ignore the state induced censorship.
They have actually downplayed debanking and use of government regulators to go after conservatives.
Did Reason stop you from expressing your perceived concerns in their comment section as to their reporting perspectives, ya fucking imbecile?
They did add a mute feature. So anyone who doesn't want to read his incessant lies and false accusations can see a grey box instead.
Sarc, I’ve come to agree with you as to the reason behind the inclusion of that feature. And to think, normal people just skip shit they don’t care to read from dumb or simply annoying people. That would certainly include folks like Jesse and his proclaimed symphony of simple minded right wing enthusiasts. I remember a time when for the most part they really weren’t so stupid. Dementia setting in maybe? Plus they’ll keep supporting tyrants, pedos, and genocidal maniacs. Crazy shit. (I recognize that’s not a clinical term lol). Maybe I’m the one going nuts?
I remember a time when for the most part they really weren’t so stupid.
The fact that I don't respond to them has driven them crazy. They think that escalating the stupidity of their comments will get me to respond, but I only hold my head in my hands. The desperation is nothing short of pathetic. If I gave a shit I'd pity their utter lack of a social life, but I don't.
I don’t believe you don’t give a shit Sarc. You’re a kind person at heart, much kinder than me I dare say.
It's an affliction I have been fighting for a long time. But thanks to people like Jesse, Chumby, and the Canadian cunt, I've managed to learn to truly not give a fuck about terrible people. I really don't care. If one of them was on fire and I had to take a piss, I'd find a quiet corner without any flames.
Tough that you two can't accept the facts that JesseAz posted.
The two of you jerking each other off is so obnoxious.
This must be a joke. Sarc be careful this guy is trying to bait you into being even more like yourself than you already are.
Wannabe therapissedoff douche, It is astonishing how someone can pretend to be intellectually superior and speak so patently stupid, but you seem to manage well. Keep pretending you are normal.
Don't trip and fall down the stairs again, your big brain bubble might pop and you will realize you are just another angry progressive who has nothing going for them but hate.
Congrats you just joined the extremists with projecting yourself onto the vast majority of people who are not like you and who certainly see through your hollow self.
And yes, yes you are.
Is JesseAz wrong? Is it bad to call out "Reason"'s inconistency?
Because from where I sit, this article, combined with years of behavior, only reinforces my notion that Reason is a Democrat-run front, a psy-ops to try to peel off liberty-minded Republicans to either not vote, vote Libertarian, or best of all, to vote Democrat -- so that Democrats can finally establish their Utopian Socialist Plan, so that we would no longer be burdened by the shackles of freedom.
Of course, you're one of them -- which is why you cannot refute an "imbecile" -- because "Reason" has given you no ammunition to work with.
Retard brigade is at it again lol. Looks like sarc wants me to unmute his ignorant ass.
Sarc says you are tall, well-groomed, and look like a cop.
Ok, fat boy. I’ll give you that one for being funny.
You’re the obese rapist, you trying to lust over Jesse like sarcasmic has?
I don’t think my fat dick would fit past Jesse’s hairy chin.
Prove it, pervert!
Yuck.
Don’t lie Jesse, we can tell you’re reading him.
"Ronald Reagan assassination."
Wait, am I having a Mandela Moment? The Ronald Reagan in my timeline died of pneumonia.
And Reason died of lack of editors. Or libertarian content.
Who needs stinkin editors?
No one needs editors, but you'd think a Libertarian magazine would need libertarian content.
Well, technically, Reason has libertarian content. 9 times out of 10, though, you have to go to the comment section to find it.
Assassination attempts that do not kill Presidents occur.
The article did leave off "attempt".
I was wondering if this wasn't one of those "John buried Paul" conspiracy thingies.
What is the matter? They liked this when it was people they hated getting fired?
You have a point.
Man Fired Over Wife's Social Media Post About Charlie Kirk
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In the wake of Charlie Kirk’s murder, an alarming number of Americans made light of his assassination, or tried to justify it. An angry right wing has emerged to ensure that such people pay, kicking off a wave of firings and suspensions that have affected journalists, Secret Service agents, and university employees.
One of those people is named Matthew Readling. He is the manager of a Texas Roadhouse in Milton, Florida, a small city in the state’s deep-red Panhandle. But unlike most of the others who have lost their jobs in the wake of Kirk’s assassination, Readling doesn’t appear to have said anything about Charlie Kirk at all.
Over the weekend, right-wing influencers, most notably Scarlett Johnson, a podcaster and social media manager for the conservative group Moms for Liberty, began to circulate Facebook posts written by Mr. Readling’s wife that referred to Charlie Kirk as a “Nazi.”
Source -- The FreePress: His Wife Called Charlie Kirk a ‘Nazi.’ He Was Fired.
I guess that’s a step up from getting fired because your wife won’t put out for your boss.
Good. The man could gain a lot from divorcing from his wife. This firing might be beneficial in the long run for the guy!
Let it be an object lesson. Never stick your dick in crazy.
You're a sick mofo. That's why no woman ever will let you stick your dick in her whether she's crazy or sane. Your nickname must be No Dick Stuck Ever.
When it come to firing public employees the only standard should be "by any means necessary".
Ok, that one was funny too.
But libertarians should be supporting permanent employment by tax leeches.
Summary...
Cancel Culture.
It's all Conservatives Fault! /s
...because a teacher got fired somewhere of course. /s
I'm not buyin' it. The standard the author above is complaining about is precisely the same standard that any employee of a private company faces. Effectively, it's saying that the termination of your employment is not an adverse government penalty that the 1A protects against. None of the court precedents say it that way but that's the net effect.
And I'm okay with that standard. Again, it's no different than that faced by any private employee.
Now we need some good, choreographed celebrations of them losing their jobs.
Britches: there's a huge difference between resurrecting some tweet a kid made 20 years ago, and publicizing what was said just yesterday.
For one, that kid 20 years ago had no concept of the future; he was a kid, legally recognized as not being mentally ready to be an adult.
For two, those teachers and others posting vile messages yesterday wanted publicity, did they not? Otherwise why would they publish their vile message and brag about how many retweets and views and likes it got? Well, they wanted publicity, they got it, and if they didn't think about the consequences yesterday, they will the next time; they will grow up, one way or the other. Unlike Charlie Kirk, they get to grow older.
I have no sympathy for them. They wanted publicity, they got it, negative consequences as well as positive ones included free of charge.
A compilation of stories about teachers being fired and put on leave due to comments:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CM1wDZ6eEcc
Okay let's say my child's teacher says the murder of conservatives and their family's is justifiable and needed. I am a conservative. So killing the teacher is self defence.
Edit
Your terms are acceptable
Or. In non-commie-education land; you just find a new teacher for your child.
The most obvious side-effect of Gov-Does 'pants for all' is the contention it expectantly will create.
This is absolutely the most libertarian thing Reason has ever posted.
All hail the government employees and the bureaucrats. The Constitution exists to protect them in doing things that the it was designed to keep said government from doing in the first place.
Seriously KMW - make up your mind. Full On Marxist or Full On Anarchist. Neither one has a place in America, but why don't you nut up and just pick one.
Kirk was undoubtedly a polarizing figure.
No he wasn't.
Not ONE SINGLE WORD he ever said was "polarizing." But that's the narrative you SOB NPCs have been told to go with, apparently thinking you'll convince people to believe he deserved to die.
Hey Christian, you're a polarizing figure. Should you die? Should any of us celebrate your death? I'll take a simple yes or no.
Kirk was undoubtedly a polarizing figure.
No he wasn't.
Thank you. Surprised I got this far before in the thread seeing this. SOMEONE had to say it.
Just because unhinged online crazies do unhinged, crazy things online doesn't make Kirk the cause. The online leftosphere is VERY extreme, harsh, insular, and dogmatic. And many of their views are vile, and they've had remarkable cover from media and government for so long they have no idea how far from the mainstream they are.
Someone being a square, being somewhat old fashioned but mostly saying things that were common 15 years ago, disagreeing firmly but saying "God loves you and of course you're welcome", or attempting to formulate a reasonable philosophy about thorny issues (like "Violence is always going to be there, so we shouldn't give up our rights") cannot be polarizing to anyone with any self awareness or common decency.
The other side twisted his words and ideas. I've learned that this week. I had to look up the original quotes. You can't trust Stephen King.
The polarizing is twisting those words, removing context, misquoting and then repeating them as though he said "killing kids was fine, the price you have to pay." It's like saying the girl that got stabbed on the train was polarizing because she enraged that schitzo on the train who thought she was reading his mind.
Rush Limbaugh? Polarizing. It was his shtick. Gavin Newsome? Polarizing. It's his shtick. Any of the talking heads on any old media mocking anyone not of their party might be polarizing. But if "I like god" or "Free speech is good" or "Lets try to convince each other of our philosophy in an informal debate" is polarizing to you, you're a fucking schitzo, and you're the problem.
Anybody on the right gets tagged here and most of the media as polarizing, divisive, and extreme. It's so common that it's almost not worth pointing out. It is just evidence of the writer's bias and to a degree is what makes them partially culpable for the mirder.
I like how any and every disagreement with Leftists -- no matter how small -- is "polarizing" -- but if you are pure agreement with Leftists, you aren't.
It's kindof nice for them that way -- assassinating "polarizing" people is just a way to "tone down the rhetoric".
Like Bill Murray, I'm gonna MISS Altruist Totalitarian!
What's even more perverse are those on the left blaming Trump, the Republicans and anyone else to the right of Karl Marx for all the violence.
Of course we know that is nothing more than projection. between tranny killers, assassinations of corporate leaders, assassination attempts at baseball games, outright violence against anyone who dares question the left's politics, all the violence, all of it, is from the left.
But it's our fault that the Left has to kill us. If only we'd just toe the line and believe exactly as they do, they wouldn't have to do such horrible things!
If a government worker posted something overtly racist, e.g. "I hate all black people," would they keep their job? I seriously doubt it. If that's the case, then I don't see why they should have any more protections for celebrating someone's murder.
"Government" employees are actually OUR employees. First amendment protection is to prevent THEM from coming after US, not the other way around. Nobody is entitled to a slice of the treasury.
Yes it seems the democrats, progressives and extremists have pushed cancel culture to new levels in the last decade created a solid platform that instead of being used to destroy someone over emotion can actually be used for law and order and bring justice.
"It's hard to imagine a better recipe for creating cancel culture mobs."
BLM and the social justice warriors recipe for hate can be turned for good.
Please cite the strong negative feelings that Charlie Kirk elicited from you.
It is reasonable to say, in my opinion, the only people who reacted with strong negative feelings from Charlie Kirk's speech let their emotions run them and they were already angry people and Charlie's words actually had no bearing or effect on their hate except to give a target for the haters to lash out their hate towards.
"Kirk was undoubtedly a polarizing figure. The strong feelings, both negative and positive, that he elicited in people are one reason his murder has become such a huge public conversation."
If Social Media is the new town square then "cancellation" is the new pillory.
Bigger audience now for sure, more tomatoes get thrown. Maybe exercise some discipline and self-control - is that maybe the real difficulty?
Nobody is snitch tagging teachers for "criticizing Chatlie Kirk". They are reporting teachers for celebrating murder. At least be honest about what is happening.
Fact: the Kristallnacht assault on smiling DID shift attention away from Trump and Epstein.