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A Taboo Worth Keeping

Plus: Memphis gets National Guarded, a second narcotrafficker boat has been struck, and more...

Liz Wolfe | 9.16.2025 9:30 AM

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Call their employer? "If we want to stop political violence like what happened to Charlie Kirk, we have to be honest about the people who are celebrating it and the people who are financing it," wrote Vice President J.D. Vance on X, promoting his guest hosting of Kirk's show, following Kirk's killing. "When you see someone celebrating Charlie's murder, call them out. And hell, call their employer," he said on the program.

"I'm desperate for our country to be united in condemnation of the actions and the ideas that killed my friend," Vance added. "I want it so badly that I will tell you a difficult truth. We can only have it with people who acknowledge that political violence is unacceptable."

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At East Tennessee State University, two faculty members were placed on administrative leave, allegedly due to comments such as "you reap what you sow" and "[Kirk's killing] isn't a tragedy. It's a victory." Oklahoma's state superintendent is investigating at least one middle school teacher for her posts (calling Kirk a "racist, misogynist piece of shit," which seems nasty, but not actually advocating political violence). The Texas Education Agency is reviewing 180 complaints filed against teachers for comments related to Kirk; some of those are surely murder cheerleading, while others are scathing criticism that should probably be tolerated. Four different high school teachers were placed on leave in Massachusetts for their commentary. One elementary school teacher in that same state has been placed on leave for her TikTok video mocking Kirk's death. Both Delta and American Airlines have axed a few employees each for social media posts on Kirk. Children's Healthcare of Atlanta and the University of Miami's health care system fired one worker each. An Office Depot worker at a store in Michigan was fired after allegedly refusing to print flyers about a Kirk vigil for a paying customer—which makes an awful lot of sense, given that printing flyers is literally their job. These cases are all different, and some seem like they do actually call for or celebrate political violence, whereas others are just tasteless expressions of hatred for Kirk that don't violate that norm.

So let's back up for a moment. Why did cancel culture of the 2010s strike so many of us as so bad and wrong?

Some of it surely had to do with proportionality: The punishment rarely fit the "crime" (which was almost always debatable).

Some of it surely had to do with changing sensibilities and sensitivities, and a sense that the orthodoxy being enforced was invented yesterday, not a reflection of prevailing sentiments. Thus it was unpredictable: You couldn't really be sure you weren't running afoul of the new tyrannical enforcers, because the shift in pieties (or language) had happened practically overnight.

But there was something undergirding it that felt especially stupid: The kids were the enforcers, overthrowing the adults. Not because the adults had exercised bad judgment or shown themselves to be incapable of faithfully executing the roles they'd been given. In some cases, they were canceled as they exercised good judgment: Consider the case of Mike Pesca, a Slate journalist (and, disclosure: my friend) who had been discussing how the publication ought to cover the firing of New York Times writer Donald McNeil, who referred to a racial slur in context on a trip to Peru with high schoolers; could a white person ever write or say nigger in context? Don't we make a use/mention distinction? Some vocal portion of his workplace apparently disagreed, and he was dismissed after he'd worked there for seven years. It was never about morals, it was never about quality of product being produced; it was about power in the workplace, wrapped up in something that, to the young, resembled morals enough to give them plausible deniability.

Now, something a little different is happening, for which people are using the same name. Professors, teachers, nurses, and doctors who have celebrated the assassination of Kirk are being purged from their workplaces. It's conservatives swarming this time, phoning employers, making them aware of the misdeeds, asking for their scalps.

Most of me thinks it's wrong and bad on principle—since I don't ever want to be fired for my own speech (and thus want to maintain a very wide sense of what we societally tolerate)—but also as a strategy, since I don't believe conservatives gain very much by weeding out the people with dumb beliefs who are in positions of relatively little power and importance. People have little impulse control and use social media like a diary; I'll never understand the crying-in-a-car TikTok woman genre, but I'm fine living in a society with people who get off on that. (Also: What even is a position of relatively little power and importance? Teachers and professors are entrusted with impressionable minds. Isn't this extreme power?)

But a not-that-tiny piece of me sees this as substantively different: Cancel culture grievances were mostly petty and minor, issues that could have been resolved if participants were willing to be 10 percent more charitable toward their perceived opponents, and if bosses were willing to instruct their inferiors to get over themselves. James Damore's Google memo about heritability of certain traits and brain differences between genders and how to reduce the gender gap among engineers is a good example; anyone who claims to have felt threatened was being an opportunist, looking to amass power and get the hit of collective effervescence that comes from vanquishing an opponent.

Of course, there were also the "offensive" acts that were not really relevant to the workplace, but that the 2010s cancelers implied indicated something about the tainted souls of the powerful: Adam Rapoport, the Bon Appetit editor in chief, who in 2020 handed in his resignation after colleagues dug up a boricua (Puerto Rican)/durag Halloween costume from 2013. Rapoport's photo was "just a symptom of the systematic racism that runs rampant within Conde Nast as a whole," said one chef/editor who worked at the magazine, while others alleged black women had been systemically mistreated under Rapoport's leadership.

With Kirk's killing, the posters who lose their jobs are saying something actually bad, something that society has long seen as beyond a crossed line; we don't cheer the killing of people with whom we disagree. This isn't the Cultural Revolution. We don't flog people. We don't put them in stocks in the town square. And we don't get titillated when a bullet flies into their neck and they spurt out blood and crumple to the ground; it's gruesome and awful and it happened as a thousand impressionable young people looked on. Looked at one way, this was an insane person committing an extrajudicial act of violence. Looked at another, this was a public execution for the crime of being conservative—which is, apparently, judging by their reactions, what a lot of people had been wanting.

When a working professional can't manage to exercise self-control and refrain from posting in public about how grateful they are that the assassin had the balls to shoot their shot, you have to wonder about their judgment. It's perhaps especially odd for professors to say as much. (Don't they spend their time…speaking their mind…in public?) And is there perhaps some value in maintaining or enforcing a consensus of what types of things lie beyond the pale? I don't want pedophilia apologists as kindergarten teachers, to use an extreme example; I also probably don't want a doctor treating me who cheers on the murder of people who think like Kirk.

In general, I trust that reputable employers have done some amount of quality/maturity/professionalism/judgment vetting. Surely celebrating political violence runs afoul of these basic expectations, and that's what they're responding to when they fire someone who posted gleefully about Kirk, which is materially different than the made-up social justice dogma that was being enforced before. (It would be better if employers self-policed rather than succumbing to the demands of angry mobs.) We've always had taboos, and the taboo against political violence is a strong one worth keeping, not one we should constantly have to renegotiate.


Scenes from New York: Gov. Kathy Hochul, a sort of forgettable, generically bad Democrat who inherited the spot when Andrew Cuomo left in a hurry, endorsed Zohran Mamdani; nobody followed her lead. lol.


QUICK HITS

  • Meanwhile, Attorney General Pam Bondi is saying utterly wrong things about hate speech. "There's free speech and then there's hate speech, and there is no place, especially now, especially after what happened to Charlie, in our society…We will absolutely target you, go after you, if you are targeting anyone with hate speech." Does Bondi need a reminder?

Hate speech does not exist legally in America. There's ugly speech. There's gross speech. There's evil speech.

And ALL of it is protected by the First Amendment.

Keep America free.

— Charlie Kirk (@charliekirk11) May 3, 2024

  • "President Donald Trump approved a National Guard deployment to Memphis, expanding the federal government's efforts to crack down on what he has cast as out-of-control crime in Democratic-run cities," reports Bloomberg. And Chicago will probably be next after Memphis, signaled the president.
  • The U.S. military struck a second boat carrying Venezuelan narcotraffickers, killing at least three. The first strike of this variety was ordered and carried out earlier this month, killing 11. More strikes are planned; congressional approval has not yet been sought.
  • Inside the deal reached between the U.S. and China for the sale of TikTok, courtesy of The Wall Street Journal.
  • "Israel unleashed a long-threatened ground assault on Gaza City on Tuesday, declaring 'Gaza is burning' as Palestinians there described the most intense bombardment they had faced in two years of war," reports Reuters. "An Israel Defence Forces official said ground troops were moving deeper into the enclave's main city, and that the number of soldiers would rise in coming days to confront up to 3,000 Hamas combatants the IDF believes are still in the city."
  • The Washington Post fired journalist Karen Attiah; Attiah claims it was for her social media posts on Kirk, including one in which she says Kirk once said, "Black women do not have the brain processing power to be taken seriously. You have to go steal a white person's slot." This was a botched quote. From Reason's Robby Soave: "What he said was that the achievements of four specific black women—former First Lady Michelle Obama, former MSNBC host Joy Reid, Supreme Court Associate Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson, and former Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee (D–Texas)—were suspect because of affirmative action; the existence of racial preferences casts a pall over their selections for various positions. One can certainly criticize the point or disagree with how he worded it (Michelle Obama, diversity hire?), but he did not say the words attributed to him by Attiah. And she put it in quotes, which is journalistic malpractice."

It's not an accurate quote though; why insist that it is?
Kirk's actual quote is dickish, ignorant & can certainly be argued is racist. Attiah *changes it* into something undeniably racist. The distinction matters if you think journalists have a duty to deal in facts. https://t.co/a8CrZs1NCJ pic.twitter.com/JXWIxm3CRD

— christoph (@Halalcoholism) September 16, 2025

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  1. Chumby   5 hours ago

    @Liz, please consider changing the name of this periodical to Dicked magazine. That way the articles could be referenced as being (D)icked.

    Thanks.

    - Chumby

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  2. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   5 hours ago

    U.S. retail sales rise in august.

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    1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   4 hours ago

      Ripples man. Ripples.

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    2. Mother's Lament   4 hours ago

      Sarcasmic, Buttplug hardest hit.

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      1. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   4 hours ago

        More ripples, man

        https://finance.yahoo.com/news/us-manufacturing-output-unexpectedly-rises-140415805.html

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        1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   4 hours ago

          Wait. Production rises after investing in Production? But it didn't happen immediately so that cant be right. - Boehm.

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  3. Chumby   5 hours ago

    His Girlfriend Has a Penis

    The suspect who murdered conservative American activist Charlie Kirk, wrote a note before the crime stating that he "has the opportunity to eliminate Kirk and he will do it."

    This was stated by FBI Director Kash Patel on Fox News.

    "And when asked why, he said - some hatred cannot be resolved by talking," Patel added.

    He clarified that the note was destroyed, but investigators collected forensic evidence of its existence and confirmed its content by questioning witnesses.

    Earlier, the media reported that the suspect committed the murder due to sympathies for his transgender neighbor, with whom they lived together.

    - Intel Slava Z

    If you get your news from Blue Sky, this might be confusing to you. Just post a few character attacks on Kirk then drop some boaf sidez followed by wishcasting.

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    1. BYODB   4 hours ago

      I wonder if the next talking point will be 'conservative Christians live with trans people all the time, natch'.

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      1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   4 hours ago

        Watch, Jeffy will use that exact same talking point sometime today or tomorrow.

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      2. Chuck P. (Now with less Sarc more snark)   4 hours ago

        Nah, they will go straight to, "he was protecting a real woman from violence." He is a hero. Just like Hamas.

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    2. Open Borders Libertarian (formerly Sandra)   1 hour ago

      As kind of a lazy Marxist and libertarian i would be kind of dissapointed if CK’s killer wasn’t a Leftist. Leftists have opposed state supported violence throughout history— sometimes (ok, rarely) through violent means.

      The idea that political violence is taboo is cray cray. Ask an abortion health care provider and their attached security team about that particular whopper.

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      1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   38 minutes ago

        What are your feelings about the assassination occurring in a Mormon area, KAR?

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      2. Neutral not Neutered   25 minutes ago

        Abortion, health care provider? Which one are they, can't be both.

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  4. JesseAz (RIP CK)   5 hours ago

    Remember the old guy who was first pointed to at the Kirk shooting? He apparently screamed he was the shooter to try to give Robinson time to escape.

    Guy Benson
    @guypbenson
    “Zinn reportedly told an officer that he was glad he said he shot [Kirk] so the real suspect could get away. He also said he ‘wanted to be a martyr for the person who was shot,’ according to the probable cause statement.” An improvised, on-the-fly, pro-murder accomplice.

    https://x.com/guypbenson/status/1967799411473519048

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    1. Chumby   4 hours ago

      That is being discussed in cointel circles. He was present for the two towers being hit by planes and then also involved with a SLC marathon bomb threat just after the one in Boston. It was reported he had a history of attention seeking behavior. S2 Underground reported the “distraction” theory just after Kirk was assassinated by the reported rainbow cult member. Have not seen any evidence linking him to the suspect.

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    2. Spiritus Mundi   4 hours ago

      That is some seriously good situational awareness. Or premeditation......

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      1. Chuck P. (Now with less Sarc more snark)   4 hours ago

        Sounds like he attended some Antifa meetings somewhere. That is the kind of shit that has gone on during protests for years that Jeffy and White Mike lie and say never happens. People with clear alibis distracting law enforcement so the perpetrators can escape with the fleeing crowd.

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      2. Chumby   4 hours ago

        Less rare than Robert Todd Lincoln’s association with potus assassinations:

        https://www.nps.gov/articles/000/robert-todd-lincoln-and-presidential-assassinations-not-formal-title.htm

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    3. MasterThief   4 hours ago

      That was the immediate assumption for anyone watching in real time

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    4. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   4 hours ago

      The assassination certainly looks like a conspiracy of multiple people to me. You have a shooter, someone distracting authorities so the shooter can get away, and a few others online who seemed to know where and what would happen.

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      1. Chuck P. (Now with less Sarc more snark)   3 hours ago

        The conspiracy took place when his teachers were in college.

        He was taught by them that he must hate Nazis. That is what happens when you inflict horrors of the Holocaust upon grade schoolers by having them read Maus when they are too young to fully understand the ethical dilemma that is war.

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      2. Neutral not Neutered   22 minutes ago

        Also, someone else was involved with the gun movements. And was the person asking the question when CK was shot also involved or was that just an odd coincidence?

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    5. damikesc   2 hours ago

      Then he should be imprisoned so he can finally feel good about what he did.

      He wants to go to jail. I have zero issues with him going to jail. Win-win.

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      1. Jefferson Paul   2 hours ago

        If he has admitted that he intentionally tried to set up a diversion to help the shooter escape, that would be textbook accessory after the fact, right? Absolutely prosecute him for that, if true.

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        1. tracerv   2 hours ago

          Agreed but I don't trust Pam Bondi with shit right now.

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          1. Jefferson Paul   1 hour ago

            I trust Pam Bondi to be corrupt or incompetent (or both).

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            1. tracerv   1 hour ago

              I'm with you brother.

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            2. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   35 minutes ago

              Agreed. She hasn’t exactly impressed me much.

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    6. Quicktown Brix   2 hours ago

      he began screaming, “I shot him – now shoot me,” in the immediate aftermath of Kirk’s killing

      This guy seems crazy.

      authorities arrested Zinn on counts of obstruction of justice linked to the aftermath of Kirk’s killing and sexual exploitation of a minor for the alleged content on his phone.

      This guy seems evil.

      Notably, in 2013, he was arrested on allegations that he asked Salt Lake City, Utah, marathon organizers if he could help set up bombs at the finish line...The deadly 2013 Boston marathon bombing that killed three people and injured hundreds of others had been days earlier.

      This guy seems sick.

      Citing information from a district attorney whose office had previously prosecuted him, the Salt Lake Tribune reported that Zinn was “politically conservative, leaning libertarian”.

      All Confirmed.

      https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/sep/16/false-confession-charlie-kirk-shooting

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    7. Open Borders Libertarian (formerly Sandra)   1 hour ago

      Sounds like bullshit to try to get this guy cancelled and fired. You snowflakes excel at that.

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      1. Red Rocks White Privilege   1 hour ago

        LOL, the guy's a tard-raging Boomerlib, he's not getting fired by anyone.

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        1. Open Borders Libertarian (formerly Sandra)   24 minutes ago

          Jesus Christ man. All this bullshit about how we can’t settle our differences through violence is making me fucking feel like putting some submission moves on someone. When are we throwing down, you fat old chump? Post your address again. I lost it.

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          1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   14 minutes ago

            Fuck off, KAR.

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  5. JesseAz (RIP CK)   4 hours ago

    D.C. Circuit rules federal workers have a personal interest in their jobs so cant be fired. Add conditions to the law that dont exist.

    https://legalinsurrection.com/2025/09/d-c-appeals-court-blocks-trump-from-firing-fed-reserve-gov-lisa-cook/

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    1. Chumby   4 hours ago

      Office Depot bitch to file a claim in DC?

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    2. I, Woodchipper   4 hours ago

      bolsheviks all the way down

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    3. Chuck P. (Now with less Sarc more snark)   4 hours ago

      It does not surprise me a DC judge thinks public employment is not a contract, it is a cudgel.

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  6. Fist of Etiquette   4 hours ago

    ...we don't cheer the killing of people with whom we disagree.

    We slyly teach the kids in our classroom to do it.

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    1. Minadin   4 hours ago

      "Looked at another, this was a public execution for the crime of being conservative—which is, apparently, judging by their reactions, what a lot of people had been wanting."

      Jeff says it's not happening.
      Ok it's just not widespread.
      So you can't say it's a LOT.

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      1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   4 hours ago

        Its not as many as jeff would prefer so no big deal.

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      2. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   4 hours ago

        Plus, you get used to it.

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  7. JesseAz (RIP CK)   4 hours ago

    AG
    @AGHamilton29
    Here is a list of just a small portion of the violence committed by radicals who oppose the essential values of Western civilization over the last few years, and then often justified or celebrated by the extremists within their movement:

    June 2022: Kavanaugh attempted assassination
    July 2022: Lee Zeldin attempted stabbing
    March 2023: Covenant school shooting
    July 2024: Donald Trump attempted assassination
    September 2024: Second Trump attempted assassination
    December 2024: Brian Thompson's assassination
    January 2025: Cybertruck bomb in Vegas
    January 2025: New Orleans car ramming attack
    April 2025: Arson attack on the home of PA Governor Josh Shapiro
    May 2025: Assassination of two Israeli staffers outside the Jewish museum in D.C.
    June 2025: Firebombing of Jewish hostage demonstrators in Colorado
    June 2025: Targeted murder of MN State lawmakers and their spouses
    August 2025: Minneapolis Church shooting
    September 2025: Charlie Kirk's assassination

    Either we stand up to the people encouraging this, or they will succeed in tearing our society apart.

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    1. Chumby   4 hours ago

      Matt Welch suggests you need to focus on boaf sidez and ignore calls for and acts of violence.

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      1. Spiritus Mundi   4 hours ago

        The LGBTs have their own red weddings?

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    2. Minadin   4 hours ago

      June 2017: Congressional Baseball practice shooting
      June 2020-August 2020: Summer of 'Mostly Peaceful' rioting

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      1. Spiritus Mundi   4 hours ago

        2012:

        Floyd Lee Corkins, the man who shot up the Washington, D.C., offices of the conservative Family Research Council last year, was sentenced to 25 years in prison Thursday

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      2. SRG2   4 hours ago

        https://reason.com/volokh/2025/09/11/assessing-the-extent-of-political-violence-in-america/

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        1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   4 hours ago

          Lol. Ilya Somin. The clown of volokh who switched views on the stop at wapo to get likes from democrats. Hilarious.

          Hey shrike, even the polling from this week shows liberals accept violence for political reasons more than any other group. Weird.

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        2. Jefferson Paul   1 hour ago

          https://xcancel.com/Recursion_Agent/status/1967059298267394218

          This link was the last comment in that article. It outlines many of the data being counted as right-wing when it's either apolitical or left wing.

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          1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   1 hour ago

            Yeap. ADL, the source, didnt have left wing vs right wing. They had left wing vs everything else.

            They included black activist groups as right wing.

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    3. Mother's Lament   4 hours ago

      "Yes, but if we pretend that racist=Republican and go all the way back to the 1960's, then the Republicans have been far worse" - Shrike

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      1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   4 hours ago

        Only if you scream Southern Strategy and claim all the democrats from then are conservatives.

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      2. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   3 hours ago

        You misspelled "turd".

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    4. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   4 hours ago

      Trump saying peaceful is secret code for violence. But dems literally cheering murder and comming up with a hit list, and calling for more shooters is just speech man

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    5. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   4 hours ago

      With the number of these events in 2025, the political violence from the left appears to be accelerating. How much longer till they try something even bigger?

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      1. Chuck P. (Now with less Sarc more snark)   3 hours ago

        Something bigger? Like 6 months of rioting and gaming an election?

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        1. tracerv   3 hours ago

          ^

          It was mostly peaceful though.

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        2. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   3 hours ago

          They’ve done riots, attempted assassinations, successful assassinations, driven vehicles into crowds, and shot up schools. All of these are bad, by themselves and collectively. How long until they attempt a 9/11 type event?

          We saw this acceleration with Islamic terror in the late 90s; attacks on people, embassies, and ships. We saw where theirs led.

          These folks so hate not just Trump, but anyone to their right who will not walk in lockstep with them. That means you, me, your moderate neighbor. They’ve killed before, and actively cheer on and applaud the killing of a political enemy. If they’re willing to kill someone like Charlie Kirk, what’s to stop them from assaulting a building or building bombs?

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    6. shrike   4 hours ago

      Partial list of RIGHT wing domestic terror attacks: (injuries, fatalities)

      2023 Jacksonville Dollar General shooting Jacksonville, Florida 0 3
      2023 Allen, Texas outlet mall shooting Allen, Texas 7 8
      2022 Buffalo supermarket shooting Buffalo, New York 3 10
      2020 Boogaloo murders Oakland, California
      Santa Cruz, California 3 2
      2019 El Paso Walmart shooting El Paso, Texas 26 22
      2019 Poway synagogue shooting Poway, California 3 1
      2018 Jeffersontown Kroger shooting Jeffersontown, Kentucky 0 2
      2018 Black man burned by White supremacist Murfreesboro, Tennessee 0 1
      2018 Pittsburgh synagogue shooting Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania 7 11
      2018 Murder of Blaze Bernstein Orange County, California 0 1
      2018 Murder of MeShon Cooper-Williams Kansas City, Missouri 0 1
      2018 Murders of Danny and Deanna Lorenzo Lee County, Florida 0 2
      2017 Murder of Richard Collins III College Park, Maryland 0 1
      2017 Car-ramming attack into counter-protesters at the white nationalist Unite the Right rally Charlottesville, Virginia 28 1
      2017 Portland train attack Portland, Oregon 1 2
      2017 Murder of Timothy Caughman New York City, New York 0 1
      2015 Shooting at a showing of the film Trainwreck Lafayette, Louisiana 9 2
      2015 Planned Parenthood shooting Colorado Springs, Colorado 9 3
      2015 Charleston church shooting at the Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal Church Charleston, South Carolina 1 9

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      1. Chumby   4 hours ago

        https://psychcentral.com/disorders/treating-pedophilia#aversion-therapy

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      2. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   3 hours ago

        turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
        If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
        turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

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      3. Mother's Lament   2 hours ago

        None of those were political or right-wing, and you know it.
        The fact is you've got nothing, you fucking extremist, and your hands are dripping with blood.

        Also, how a black-hating racist like you has the balls to allocate racial crimes to your enemy is beyond me.

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  8. JesseAz (RIP CK)   4 hours ago

    In a weird turn, anchor suspended by news station for non partisan tribute if Kirk.

    https://redstate.com/jenniferoo/2025/09/15/news-anchor-is-suspended-over-non-partisan-tribute-to-charlie-kirk-n2193983

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    1. Chumby   4 hours ago

      Won’t be surprised should Fat Boy Slim claim this is identical to people who celebrated the assassination of Charlie Kirk being dismissed.

      “Oh here we go, Jessebot posting something that BlueSky hasn’t fact checked” or whatever garbage.

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      1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   4 hours ago

        The leftists cant meme. Akita is ashamed of that too.

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        1. Chumby   3 hours ago

          The left cannot meme.
          They do attempt their boaf sidez.
          Dicked does support them.

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    2. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   4 hours ago

      Saw that earlier this morning. The station is in Springfield, Illinois, and works primarily as a pro-Pritzker mouthpiece.

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    3. Mother's Lament   2 hours ago

      He should have celebrated murder instead, the extremist.

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      1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 hours ago

        She. From what she said in her televised speech, Kirk was a mentor to her.

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        1. damikesc   2 hours ago

          First employer also. Lots of people have said how Kirk made you believe in yourself that you could do better than even you thought you could do.

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          1. Chupacabra   2 hours ago

            Sounds suspiciously like White Supremacy.

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    4. damikesc   2 hours ago

      If it was not approved by the station, I understand the suspension. Cannot have the staff simply making whatever statements they wish.

      ...they could have also cut the shot if need be....

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  9. JesseAz (RIP CK)   4 hours ago

    Ripples man.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/economics/fed-models-were-wrong-about-us-economy

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  10. JesseAz (RIP CK)   4 hours ago

    Leading former signature expert from the FBI has questions about that birthday book drawing.

    https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/all-things-trump/longtime-fbi-signature-expert-doubts-trump-personally-signed

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    1. Chuck P. (Now with less Sarc more snark)   4 hours ago

      Not a surprise that Trump regularly uses colored paper. It is common knowledge in business that it confounds forgery.

      I was taught to always sign with a blue pen back before color copiers made that less of a security feature.

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      1. tracerv   3 hours ago

        Yep. I always signed documents and checks with blue ink back in the day.

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        1. HorseConch   2 hours ago

          The writing is unbelievably strange, and the writing on the copy they released is distorted. Did they use a shitty copier/scanner to release it, or has it looked that way since it was originally put there?

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  11. Fist of Etiquette   4 hours ago

    Gov. Kathy Hochul ... endorsed Zohran Mamdani...

    Two fonts of bad ideas.

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    1. But SkyNet is a Private Company   3 hours ago

      Good Liz is back! With a stinging effective nuanced rebuke of everything Jeff, Red Wedding, KMW, and Robby Goodhair have written this week.

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      1. Mother's Lament   2 hours ago

        We know why that hair was so fabulous now.

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  12. I, Woodchipper   4 hours ago

    Meanwhile, Attorney General Pam Bondi is saying utterly wrong things about hate speech. "There's free speech and then there's hate speech, and there is no place, especially now, especially after what happened to Charlie, in our society…We will absolutely target you, go after you, if you are targeting anyone with hate speech."

    We could have had Gaetz

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    1. Chuck P. (Now with less Sarc more snark)   4 hours ago

      I will forever continue to insist that we chastise people for sloppy diction, which contributes to sloppy thinking. Words have meanings. Bondi and any staff advising her are foolish.

      When I read what Bondi said, I see her talking about targeting threats and intimidation, which are, and should be prosecuted. But she succumbs to the thought patterns inflicted upon us by the left and conflates the meaning by calling it "hate speech".

      Sad.

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      1. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   4 hours ago

        This is why you can’t have chicks in charge.

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        1. Jim Conley   55 minutes ago

          Amen, brother

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    2. Fu Manchu   3 hours ago

      The Right is the new Left.

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      1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   3 hours ago

        That makes zero sense, Shrike.

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        1. Chumby   3 hours ago

          He is just here for supply.

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      2. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 hours ago

        Youre not even trying to earn your Act Blue check at this point.

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        1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 hours ago

          I thought he got shit-canned by the Open Society.

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  13. Longtobefree   4 hours ago

    No one should ever believe anything from the Washington Post.
    Ever.

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  14. JesseAz (RIP CK)   4 hours ago

    So let's back up for a moment. Why did cancel culture of the 2010s strike so many of us as so bad and wrong?

    Cancel culture was going back into people's histories and finding normal comments at the time and holding them to the changed standards of the left.

    It was firing people like the Mozilla CEO over donations to an effort majority of dems agreed with at the time.

    It was for not submitting to the current democrat culture.

    It was not about celebrating murder and silencing enemies with a bullet.

    These 2 things are not the same no matter how desperate Reason is to equate the two.

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    1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   4 hours ago

      This is agree with.

      Meanwhile, Attorney General Pam Bondi is saying utterly wrong things about hate speech. "There's free speech and then there's hate speech, and there is no place, especially now, especially after what happened to Charlie, in our society…We will absolutely target you, go after you, if you are targeting anyone with hate speech." Does Bondi need a reminder?

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    2. Chumby   4 hours ago

      (D)icked magazine is trying hard to push this narrative.

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      1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   4 hours ago

        Whats hilarious is they tried the "this isnt what Kirk would have wanted" shit yesterday. Kirk and TPUSA literally publish a database of professors for their public statements.

        https://www.professorwatchlist.org/

        Said it yesterday but it's lime watching atheists tell a Christian what Jesus would have done.

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        1. Chumby   4 hours ago

          Or like jeffsarc telling libertarians and conservatives what they will type and/or do in the future.

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    3. Mike Parsons   4 hours ago

      "Cancel culture was going back into people's histories and finding normal comments at the time and holding them to the changed standards of the left."

      That, or saying things that are plainly true and being punished to further the goal of re-education to new-speak or new think. Things like noticing black people commit tons of violent crime, that Floyd was a piece of shit in life who overdosed on drugs, that men arent women. We had a mass hysteria where you couldn't notice reality and many teachers or people in left wing professions lost their jobs for not honoring the new church orthodoxy.

      Saying things like "fuck the assassinated man's wife, mother, family, and children too" is another universe

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      1. tracerv   3 hours ago

        I always go back to when they said the Floyd riots would not spread Covid but you could not go to church or a bar. Jig was up at that moment for me.

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        1. Michael Ejercito   3 hours ago

          Before then, there was overwhelming support for the then-unprecedented pandemic measures.

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        2. Mike Parsons   2 hours ago

          That was a mask off moment for a lot of people, and the last straw for others. Maybe the most egregious example of them admitting :

          "Ya, we are just playing Calvin Ball with you people. Deal with it"

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          1. tracerv   1 hour ago

            As George Costanza would say they had "hand" big time at that point.

            Dealing with these psychos has been so fucking tiring.

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        3. Jefferson Paul   12 minutes ago

          To steelman their argument, it was that the threat to black people by the police was an even greater threat than the pandemic, so protesting/rioting was worth it to stop the bigger threat. (So they can understand the logic of trade-offs here, but claim Kirk was happy with the unfortunate, inevitable gun deaths that accompany you keeping your 2nd Amendment rights.)

          But even with that charitable interpretation of the left, they would then have to admit that Covid was not that big of a threat, as the year before only a dozen "unarmed" black men were killed by police. They weren't saying Covid will only kill a dozen people. Instead they were banking on many normal people thinking tens of thousands of unarmed black people are killed each year by police. Polls at the time reflect that most of the left and even some of the right believed it was true.

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      2. damikesc   2 hours ago

        I remember that pastor this weekend who refused to memorialize Kirk because "How one dies does not make up for how one lived".

        He, no doubt, eulogized the cruelty of fate that happened to George Floyd.

        He will never see the inconsistency.

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    4. Michael Ejercito   3 hours ago

      The OK symbol panic was another example.

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  15. Sometimes a Great Notion   4 hours ago

    The U.S. military struck a second boat carrying Venezuelan alleged narcotraffickers, killing at least three.

    FTFY, without a trial we only have the DOD's word. Which mass destructed in Iraq.

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    1. SRG2   4 hours ago

      Yes. but Dear Leader ordered it, so it's fine and not murder at all. And it's okay to celebrate their deaths because they're bad people.

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      1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   4 hours ago

        Poor shrike.

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      2. Mother's Lament   4 hours ago

        Fuck off. Are you honestly trying to pretend that cartel narcotrafficantes are some sort of Mexican fishermen?

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        1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   4 hours ago

          They dont even have membership ID cards ML.

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        2. Sometimes a Great Notion   4 hours ago

          I don't believe the DOD.

          https://youtu.be/DhWlPo3qxak?si=hU5fK1yI_mxjnGeB

          I am also against targeted strikes against people committing non capital offenses.

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        3. Fu Manchu   3 hours ago

          LOL, you gullible retards believe anything your dear leader says.

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          1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   3 hours ago

            Projecting, Shrike?

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          2. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 hours ago

            Stop using Dear Leader on all your socks shrike. Makes it too obvious.

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          3. Mother's Lament   2 hours ago

            "retards believe anything"

            Big words coming from a Bidenista who kept waving phony jobs reports that were later revised downwards, no exceptions, in the air for the last four years.

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            1. Fu Manchu   1 hour ago

              LOL if you think I'm a Bidenista you're even dumber than I thought

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              1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   57 minutes ago

                Know. Not think shrike. You defended his economy for years lol.

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          4. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   1 hour ago

            LOL, you gullible retards believe anything your dear leader says.

            So we didn’t blow up a second boat?

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            1. Fu Manchu   1 hour ago

              I was referring to the terrorists / drug trafficking part. Trump could declare your mom to be a trafficker and blow her up and you'd believe him.

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              1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   56 minutes ago

                Shrike always had to resort to imaginations to justify his outrage like all good leftists.

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                1. Chumby   44 minutes ago

                  Shrike even told his lover that when he is old enough to vote, he better vote for team blue or he’ll get the hose again.

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      3. VinniUSMC   3 hours ago

        Nice projection.

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      4. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   3 hours ago

        Diet Shrike: none of the calories of regular Shrike, but still contains all of the same vitriol and misinformation.

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      5. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   3 hours ago

        turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
        If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
        turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

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  16. JesseAz (RIP CK)   4 hours ago

    "President Donald Trump approved a National Guard deployment to Memphis, expanding the federal government's efforts to crack down on what he has cast as out-of-control crime in Democratic-run cities," reports Bloomberg. And Chicago will probably be next after Memphis, signaled the president.

    Authorized by the Tennessee governor.

    https://justthenews.com/nation/states/center-square/lee-says-hes-working-out-national-guard-details-trump

    Kind of important information.

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    1. Spiritus Mundi   4 hours ago

      Fascist!

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      1. Mother's Lament   4 hours ago

        I actually hate this because it gives the Democrats a precedent, and when they send in the troops it won't be because of runaway crime.
        Washington belongs to congress to be administered by the president as their CAO, but the other cities are different.

        I understand that the crime the Democrats have inflicted on the residents of those cities is brutal, but this will lead to something far worse when the AOCs and Zohrans get in.

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        1. Spiritus Mundi   4 hours ago

          Typically you are correct. Federal troops should not be depolyed for crime fighting. However, just like in DC, the constitution allows for deployment by state governors. The better action would be to arrest the dem mayors for fraud. They were elected to do a job, refuse to do it, and still charge the citizen. Straight up fraud.

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        2. Chumby   3 hours ago

          Yup. Let the blue cities burn themselves down. It is what the denizens in those places want.

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        3. JesseAz (RIP CK)   3 hours ago

          I dont believe citizens should be held to anarcho tyranny. This is preferable to that.

          Plus dems essentially did it through forced consent decrees. Multiple deployments have been used when localities refuse to enforce the law. It is part of the federal design.

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          1. Mother's Lament   2 hours ago

            Every time something is done the question "How will the Democrats abuse this" has to be explored.

            A year and a half ago the Biden Junta was censoring the internet, the woke generals were doing political witch hunts and the FBI was targeting Catholics. This has to be kept in mind whenever precedent is being set.

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            1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   48 minutes ago

              I dont bother with that question since they will always abuse regardless of what the GOP do.

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    2. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   4 hours ago

      It will only stick if the judges don't let people out

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    3. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   4 hours ago

      https://x.com/Anc_Aesthetics/status/1967019488295125067?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1967019488295125067%7Ctwgr%5E21e9390b53f5015355d5627aabb1d8254ef15995%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.lifezette.com%2F2025%2F09%2Fdisturbing-new-details-emerge-after-charlotte-train-murder-of-ukrainian-refugee-watch%2F

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  17. Stupid Government Tricks   4 hours ago

    Combine this hate speech crap with "I've got the Epstein client list on my desk right now" lies, and it's clear Pam Bondi is at best an illustration of the Peter Principle in action. She's earned the nickname "Spam Blondi".

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    1. Chuck P. (Now with less Sarc more snark)   4 hours ago

      She is foolishly trying to use the rhetoric of the left against them. She doesn't strike me as incredibly bright.

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      1. Stupid Government Tricks   3 hours ago

        Makes me wonder how long she'll last as a useful distraction tool. Maybe she'll go back to running for office. I bet she puts out feelers for governor or president.

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        1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 hours ago

          Not President, because she's a company grade officer, at best. She doesn't have Trump's decades-old brand or media charisma. AG is likely the top rung she'll ever see.

          Now, Governor is a real possibility, but she's nowhere near as administratively competent as DeSantis.

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  18. I, Woodchipper   4 hours ago

    the cancel culture that peaked in wokeness frenzy of early 2020s was capricious, petty, and baseless. Reaching back into the past 10 years of someone's tweets to find an off color joke, or a picture of some CEO who wore an 'insensitive' halloween costume back in college, or, even worse, some one who stated a fact the woke left didnt like.

    What's going on here with the Kirkening is a different thing altogether. Everyone knows it. Everyone understands the material and moral difference. It is only the libtardsphere acting like it's the same thing.

    They always do. It's part of Rules for Radicals #4 and they do it really well. Time to beat them.

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    1. Randy Sax   4 hours ago

      Fire Tim because he said "nigger".

      Fire Bob because he said "I'm glad Charlie Kirk is dead".

      Neither statements are illegal. Both are considered awful to different people. I think the best place to draw the line is at actual illegal calls to violence. Leave everything else alone.

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      1. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   4 hours ago

        Don’t confuse government actions against citizens and interactions between employers and employees.

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      2. JesseAz (RIP CK)   4 hours ago

        The former was backed by the civil rights division of the DoJ and also led to debanking through threats by regulators in Operation Chokepoint.

        And almost zero of the cases under dem cancel culture were that blatant. Often for merely stating truths instead of dem religious beliefs.

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        1. Sometimes a Great Notion   3 hours ago

          And now Bondi is calling for the DOJ to do it. If private companies want to do it, fine. If school boards want to do it, that's fine (I'd ultimately argue no taxpayer funded schools) since parents should have a say in who teaches their kid.

          But the government by and large should stay a neutral observer.

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          1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 hours ago

            And i disagree with her on it. But she hasn't said she would do anything. Youre intentionally misinterpreting what was said.

            And guess what. Conservatives are calling for her to resign shit for brains.

            https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/conservatives-renew-demands-bondis-resignation-over-hate-speech-remarks

            It isn't defended and cheered like when democrats did it.

            But your TDS has blinded you.

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            1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 hours ago

              Guys, we’ve got bigger problems here, and other than tariffs (which I differ with others on as well), you’re essentially on the same side. If we have infighting, how the hell are we going to deal with the likes of the Jeffys, Sarcs, and other idiots out there?

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              1. Zeb   2 hours ago

                Yes, this. Attacking people because they only 80% agree with you is not helpful. Most of us here are generally on the same side. And respectfully arguing about the things we disagree on is a good thing.

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                1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   42 minutes ago

                  You haven't been following his responses to me if you think this is true.

                  Ive basically ignored him for months.

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                  1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   30 minutes ago

                    I thought it was SGT. SaGN can be a bit on the retarded side.

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                  2. Zeb   19 minutes ago

                    Fine, take it as a general comment. I wasn't really thinking of your specific disagreements with SAGN.

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              2. JesseAz (RIP CK)   44 minutes ago

                Ive had him muted for months after he spiraled with the tariff shit. He has left ignorant replies which ive seen quoted by others since. Unmuted just yesterday. Have zero respect for his shit. He is approaching sarc levels like with his cries congress has no role in covid spending. Have basically lost any respect for him as he even adds inane posts like above to non economic comments because he is still fucking butthurt his dreams of a crashed economy didnt come true.

                Until his behaviors change and he gets over being laughably wrong, no respect.

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            2. Sometimes a Great Notion   55 minutes ago

              And your TDS has you calling me a reatrd, why? I'm against the head of the DOJ saying, "We will absolutely target you, go after you, if you are targeting anyone with hate speech".

              I misrepresented nothing and once again lie about my position. So go fuck yourself.

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              1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   46 minutes ago

                Lol. You've been posting shit on my posts for months while I've left you alone.

                Yes. You misrepresented her. There is no focus. No change in policy. It was ignorant bluster which is why she is called out from conservatives.

                Even bother to read the link? My guess is as usual you refuse to.

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      3. MasterThief   4 hours ago

        The problem is worse because Tim is fired for saying "nigger" but Tyrone says it every other sentence without a gentle informal reprimand.

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        1. rbike   51 minutes ago

          Don't forget some woman is currently being prosecuted for using the "n" word. Minnesota I think.

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          1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   28 minutes ago

            Yes, Rochester, Minnesota.

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      4. Zeb   2 hours ago

        People in the government should shut the fuck up about it. Government needs to be neutral on speech that doesn't rise to the level of a criminal threat. Private people and employers can do what they think is right, or in their best interests.

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        1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 hours ago

          The only place where a government should get involved would be a school district (as they’re units of government). There are a number of educators celebrating Kirk’s death who probably shouldn’t be teaching our (collectively) kids. This wouldn’t be a problem, if ideally, all schools were private, but we’re stuck with what we have.

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          1. Zeb   2 hours ago

            Yeah, for government employment, I'm OK. They shouldn't be telling private employers what they should be doing though.

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            1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   28 minutes ago

              Agreed.

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      5. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 hours ago

        Neither statements are illegal. Both are considered awful to different people. I think the best place to draw the line is at actual illegal calls to violence. Leave everything else alone.

        You know damn well that we haven't lived in that world since about 2006.

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        1. Zeb   2 hours ago

          But I would hope we can find a path back to that world where there is both legal and cultural respect for free speech.

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          1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 hours ago

            It's nice to hope. But let's keep grounded in reality while doing so.

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            1. damikesc   2 hours ago

              We can never return to "normalcy" if harsh rules apply to only one side.

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              1. Randy Sax   2 hours ago

                The "harsh rule" being discussed here is "if you say something the masses disagree with you need to be fired". I'd rather it apply to neither side than both.

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                1. Marshal   51 minutes ago

                  I'd rather it apply to neither side...

                  That's not one of the options available to us.

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          2. Gaear Grimsrud   1 hour ago

            Yeah this. The culture has changed drastically in the last few decades. Parsing the line between legal and illegal won't save the Republic if public opinion remains on the current track.

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            1. Zeb   1 hour ago

              I've been saying it for years now. Legal protection of speech isn't enough if you can't maintain it as a cultural value.
              As relates to current events, there also needs to be some cultural consensus on what are the lines of social acceptability. And that's the trickier part. At what point is it appropriate to socially or professionally censure people for what they say in public? I'd say that public shaming or even loss of employment is appropriate for ghoulishly celebrating a murder of a public figure. But there's always going to be argument on less obviously egregious statement.

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      6. Mother's Lament   2 hours ago

        The difference between someone being an ignorant prick and someone endorsing murder is a big one.

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        1. Randy Sax   1 hour ago

          I agree. But many don't. That's the danger. We can't build a society with a social credit score. Once you build that weapon it will be turned on you. Eventually.

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  19. Spiritus Mundi   4 hours ago

    ...weeding out the people with dumb beliefs who are in positions of relatively little power and importance...

    Doctors, teachers, judges, journalists, nurses, elected officals.....people with little power and importance.

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    1. BYODB   4 hours ago

      One wonders who they believe has power or importance.

      Welders and carpenters, for example, aren't being fired en masse for their stupid comments on twitter. Hmm...

      Or, they are, and there is no outrage over them because workers aren't people.

      It's the typically left career paths that are throwing a fit, minus Doctors where it depends on practice. Gosh, I wonder if that could be a reason. Also notice that 4 out of 6 of those are very credentialed, and the other two are the government.

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      1. Use the Schwartz   3 hours ago

        "Welders and carpenters, for example, aren't being fired en masse for their stupid comments on twitter."

        Bingo. "Cancel Culture" is yet another Luxury of the Leisure Class.

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    2. MasterThief   4 hours ago

      Liz's X posts are showing she gets it even if she falls short here.

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      1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   3 hours ago

        I think KMW edits her here before the Roundup is posted.

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        1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   3 hours ago

          This has been my thoughts this year as well. Forced to link to her shit coworkers too.

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          1. Chumby   3 hours ago

            She is young and needs the money.

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      2. But SkyNet is a Private Company   3 hours ago

        I think she nailed it

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  20. Mataratones   4 hours ago

    I always knew this time was coming: some point when leftists got fired for their views, and they would complain that conservatives were being incosistent about cancel culture. That's why I have always maintained that firing someone for their views can be justified. Of course it can. If your views are offensive enough (e.g., if someone says that they hate all Jews), of course you deserve to get fired. The problem is that the left pushed the boundary of acceptable speech so far from what was reasonable that it became ridiculous (and, of course, always against people on the other side). If you can't tell the difference between firing someone for saying "Men are not women" and for saying "Charlie Kirk deserved to die," you're either lying or too stupid to debate.

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    1. Randy Sax   4 hours ago

      If you can't tell the difference between firing someone for saying "Men are not women" and for saying "Charlie Kirk deserved to die," you're either lying or too stupid to debate.

      The problem is that some people are genuinely too stupid to tell the difference. Many people. And giving smart people people with the right™ opinions the encouragement to "cancel" others, it also gives the dumb people some of that same power.

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    2. Think It Through   3 hours ago

      Some people think they "know the difference" and this is their difference: "men are not women" is transphobic hate speech, while "Charlie Kirk deserved to die" is self-evidently true.

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    3. Red Rocks White Privilege   3 hours ago

      Look at Tony's posts in the "Charlie Kirk didn't want this" thread. He spends years calling everyone who doesn't believe in his retarded political theology "proto-fascists," admits that he believed the GOP was mostly like the punching bag neocons who just wanted tax cuts and forever wars while his side got to keep pushing the envelope further to the left and his label was entirely insincere, then has his typical bitchfit that his side is getting the same treatment they dished out for a decade, because "my reasons are righteous and yours are evil, so we get to do what we want. Don't you see how simple it is?"

      These faggots really didn't believe that the boot would end up on the other foot, and they're squealing like stuck pigs now that they're getting just a itty-bitty taste of what they indulged in for the last several years.

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  21. Randy Sax   4 hours ago

    Israel unleashed a long-threatened ground assault on Gaza City on Tuesday, declaring 'Gaza is burning' as Palestinians there described the most intense bombardment they had faced in two years of war," reports Reuters.

    Their 2 weeks of of hospital fuel lasted 2 years, what a miracle! Praise Mohamed.

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    1. Mother's Lament   3 hours ago

      Sure is odd how long this genocide is taking. Are they shipping in fresh Palestinians from elsewhere?

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      1. tracerv   3 hours ago

        Saibamen. Yamcha was Jewish.

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      2. mad.casual   3 hours ago

        Given the thousands of babies that were going to starve to death within 48 hours a few weeks ago, the population average birth rate is something like an unprecedented-in-modern-times 7 and it seems like the Israelis have set up a bizarre campaign of genocide oriented around letting Palestinian women get pregnant with their husbands repeatedly and then starving the children to death.

        I'm still not entirely clear on why Palestinian women would continue to get pregnant with children they'll lose (while they themselves presumably aren't starving) in order to... keep the Israeli hostages and the Hamas leadership... but obviously all the numbers and logistics we get from Gaza are solid gold facts and the narrative has to be adjusted to fit.

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  22. mad.casual   4 hours ago

    In general, I trust that reputable employers have done some amount of quality/maturity/professionalism/judgment vetting.

    Something about this take feels very libertarian/intuitive/familiar.

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  23. shrike   4 hours ago

    "you reap what you sow"

    Trump Cult "CANCEL HIM!"

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    1. Mother's Lament   4 hours ago

      The Buttplug solution to free speech folks, "kill em all because they deserve it".

      The guy that chortled "muh private cumpany" when the FBI and the Biden Junta were shutting down free speech on the internet, is upset that people who celebrate the murder of a man for free speech, are getting canned by repelled employers.

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      1. shrike   3 hours ago

        You're the idiot who maintains a list of MY quotes and use them to attempt to squelch my speech.

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        1. Red Rocks White Privilege   3 hours ago

          LOL, it's an internet board, fuckhead, no one is squelching anything.

          Thanks for proving my point about leftists and their fake-ass oppressed/oppressor belief system.

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        2. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   3 hours ago

          turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
          If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
          turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a TDS-addled lying pile of lefty shit.

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        3. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   3 hours ago

          BTW, shit-for-brains, if that's true, kill yourself for making such idiotic comments.
          I'm sure your family would be happy to be rid of such a pathetic piece of lying shit.

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        4. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   3 hours ago

          People keep a running list of your, Sarc’s, and Jeffy’s comments because you guys lie so much about what you said in the past, asshole.

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          1. BYODB   2 hours ago


            “What can be, unburdened by what has been.”

            - Kamala Harris

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            1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 hours ago

              ”Fuck those people.”

              - Sarcasmic

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        5. Mother's Lament   2 hours ago

          "and use them to attempt to squelch my speech"

          That would only work if you had a sense of shame.

          Instead I use them to demonstrate you're a consummate liar, a bigot and a hypocrite.

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          1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   25 minutes ago

            If Shrike had any shame, he’d have never posted the links in the first place. Then he’d have permanently left once he was banned for doing so.

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    2. Chumby   3 hours ago

      https://psychcentral.com/disorders/treating-pedophilia#aversion-therapy

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    3. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   3 hours ago

      What happened to your original account, Shrike? I heard it was banned for the posting of hardcore child porn links to the dark web.

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    4. Fu Manchu   3 hours ago

      It's not cancel culture when _we_ do it.

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      1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 hours ago

        Shrike is a midwit. He proves it daily here.

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    5. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   3 hours ago

      turd, the ass-wipe of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
      If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
      turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

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  24. Mother's Lament   4 hours ago

    As a former leftist myself, you must understand that the left will never stop until they achieve victory. They will not leave you in peace. They will not coexist. The only two options are roll over and be crushed or crush them, over and over, relentlessly, constantly, forever. As soon as you stop crushing them they will come back and start trying to crush you again. They may hide it but that is what they are doing, always and forever. There is no peace. There is either crush or be crushed by the left. This is the truth. Do you understand?

    I don't like the idea of crushing, but he's right that the progs will never give up. They might switch tracks or temporarily retreat, but as soon as society relaxes or lets down it's guard they'll be back in castrating children, gaslighting racial minorities and using violence against anyone they think is an enemy.
    The price of freedom is eternal vigilance.

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    1. mad.casual   3 hours ago

      They might switch tracks or temporarily retreat, but as soon as society relaxes or lets down it's guard they'll be back in castrating children, gaslighting racial minorities and using violence against anyone they think is an enemy.

      To some, this has been a long, slow march a half-century or more in the making.

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      1. But SkyNet is a Private Company   3 hours ago

        Over a century

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    2. Red Rocks White Privilege   3 hours ago

      That's because it's a theological movement, not a political one. It's hyper-materialistic and deterministic, so there's a constant neurosis that you can't stop "doing the work" until the communist utopia is finally created. It's just a short-bus, secular version of Christianity that believes heaven can be created on earth and that anyone stopping you from doing that is oppressing you. Their worldview is really that simplistic, but they use all these different issues to subvert what's in place in the name of bringing that supposed utopia about.

      They're not smart enough to realize that "utopia" means "nowhere" for a reason.

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    3. Its_Not_Inevitable   56 minutes ago

      Two steps forward, one step back. Repeat.

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  25. Moderation4ever   3 hours ago

    Cancel culture is of course wrong, but it seems to be most destructive when one part of a group turns others in the same group. It tends to enforce uniformity rather than unity. VP Vance's suggestion will likely have less impact on Democrats than on Republicans who are viewed to not venerate Charlie Kirk enough to satisfy the mob.

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    1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   3 hours ago

      Are you fucking retarded? No Republican is saying he or she is glad Charlie is dead online. That’s the purview of leftist Democrats and leftist Democrats only, fucktard.

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      1. Moderation4ever   3 hours ago

        First I am not suggesting that any Republican is saying they are glad that Charlie Kirk is dead. I also would point out saying "you reap what you sow" is hardly a celebration of death. What I am saying is that any Republican who may have criticized Charlie Kirk in the past could find those long past words being used against them. Cancel culture is, in my opinion, more destructive within groups than between groups.

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        1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 hours ago

          And what exactly did Mr. Kirk sow, M4e?

          Also, only immediate words celebrating death are being used, not past criticisms.

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          1. Super Scary   2 hours ago

            You don't understand ITL, Kirk's skirt was too short. He deserved it.

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        2. damikesc   2 hours ago

          The Right is not the Left.

          We are not going to go into a decade of posts to cancel somebody.

          If you want to post a video celebrating a murder, do not be upset when it gets some attention.

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    2. Mike Parsons   3 hours ago

      common M4E L

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    3. JesseAz (RIP CK)   3 hours ago

      Parody.

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      1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   3 hours ago

        Not if stupidity will suffice, which in this case, it certainly does.

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    4. But SkyNet is a Private Company   3 hours ago

      As Concern Trolling goes, this is a particularly poor effort

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  26. Red Rocks White Privilege   3 hours ago

    Zoomer finds out that the boss runs the company:

    Dave Portnoy has hit back at the 'scumbag' intern that claimed they were fired from Barstool for posting a message to Charlie Kirk's family.
    Shortly after Kirk's shocking death, a user on X came forward and claimed they had been running Barstool Texas Tech's account at the time, before being fired days later.
    The user claimed that he'd sent out a post calling for 'prayers' to the family of Kirk, in the wake of the news, before being dismissed by Barstool for doing so...
    After the user's post went viral, many fans called for a response from Barstool boss Portnoy. And it didn't take long for him to fire back.
    Taking to X, he wrote: 'I hate this kid. He was an intern in a program of 200 interns. We have pretty hard and fast rules not to do politics or personal opinions on those accounts. This was in place before any of this.
    'If you run a brand account for any company you don't do personal stuff from the brand. It's day 1 stuff. We don't want 200 teenage interns giving their takes on the world. Every single account followed the rules.
    'He was the only 1 that didn't and then he also started fighting with people in comments calling them a**holes . It had nothing to do with what he said and just how we run a massive intern program.

    Note to Zoomers--it doesn't matter how righteous you think your cause is. If you don't follow the rules, the boss is well within their rights to fire your ass. You know why Portnoy gets to talk politics on his business resources but you don't? He owns the company and you're a fucking intern, that's why.

    These little shits have been online their whole damn lives and think all this sharing is normal. Just shut the fuck up and do your job.

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    1. Mike Parsons   2 hours ago

      "'I was proud to represent Texas Tech and be part of what I thought was a brand that stood for being real, unfiltered, and different."

      These kids are all narcissistic entitled little bitches. Obviously its a fine statement (about prayers for Kirk) that I agree with, but hard to fault Portnoy here. Would be a nightmare running a company where every little shit gets to post their views on the topics of the day and dealing with the fallout of some nobody's opinion

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      1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 hours ago

        The guy has 200 interns at places all over the country. I don't blame him for blowing his stack because he's having to self-police kids who don't know better. Note that he said every other intern followed the rules except for that one shithead.

        He's not any different than the morons complaining that they got fired for dancing in Kirk's blood.

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        1. Gaear Grimsrud   1 hour ago

          Yeah this is the right response. We saw a lot of businesses go woke during the BLM/Antifa riots. Some are now desperately trying to walk it back. It's a fucking business. Employees should keep their mouths shut.

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        2. BYODB   23 minutes ago

          What chaps me is that they're using an intern mill for their social media presence in the first place. I can't think of any kind of organization that needs 200 interns to make social media posts.

          If they want people to work for them that are serious, maybe don't 'hire' teenagers for free or below market rates?

          Literally a case of getting exactly what they paid for if we're honest.

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    2. Super Scary   1 hour ago

      "The user claimed that he'd sent out a post calling for 'prayers' to the family of Kirk"

      I'd love to see what the tweet actually said.

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      1. Minadin   59 minutes ago

        My guess is that he's cleaned up the content of the statement a bit. For instance, if he mockingly said 'thoughts and prayers' . . .

        But even if he didn't, and he sent out genuine condolences, if the rules were to not talk about political topics, he's in violation.

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        1. Gaear Grimsrud   34 minutes ago

          "Those kids were literally praying when they got shot", Newsome. Is prayer cool again? I can't even follow the talking points anymore.

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          1. Minadin   17 minutes ago

            I think the point of that quote was that prayer doesn't work. Once again, mocking their political opponents when they are the victims of violence.

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  27. Think It Through   3 hours ago

    I don't believe conservatives gain very much by weeding out the people with dumb beliefs who are in positions of relatively little power and importance. People have little impulse control and use social media like a diary; I'll never understand the crying-in-a-car TikTok woman genre, but I'm fine living in a society with people who get off on that. (Also: What even is a position of relatively little power and importance? Teachers and professors are entrusted with impressionable minds. Isn't this extreme power?)

    Did we change writers in the middle of the paragraph? Or is there a little schizophrenia going on here?

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    1. Red Rocks White Privilege   3 hours ago

      I'll never understand the crying-in-a-car TikTok woman genre

      The best ones are the dumb bitches who think they're giving life lessons while putting on their makeup in the mirror, instead of coming off like a bunch of pompous airheads.

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      1. tracerv   3 hours ago

        And 100% of them have those crazy eyes that scream RUN!

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      2. BYODB   3 hours ago

        A surprising amount of women cry when they get mad, which sort of explains the crying-in-a-car mad about something genre. They're venting and hoping to get some comments that make them feel better.

        Very emotive, but that's more or less what's going on there. I would assume the vast, vast majority of people that watch those are...other women.

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        1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 hours ago

          There's a list from way back around Y2K that included an item which said, "Don't come to men with a problem unless you want that problem solved. That's what we do. Sympathy is what your girlfriends are for."

          As you allude to, women seem to have substituted venting on TikTok for meeting up and bitching about situations with their friends at the bar.

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          1. BYODB   2 hours ago

            I don't know if it's a substitution or an addition, but the behavior in both cases stems from the same reasoning I think.

            Just my opinion though. My wife cries when she gets really mad too, but she certainly doesn't post it on TikTok.

            There's no reason a man can't also be sympathetic to his wife in those moments, the difficult part is figuring out when she wants to just complain about it or actually wants a solution...at least in my experience over the past twenty or so years.

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            1. mad.casual   2 hours ago

              There's no reason a man can't also be sympathetic to his wife in those moments,

              Falsely presumes a reason or sympathy is needed.

              If your spouse's role in your life situation functionally and/or emotionally is effectively displaced by likes on social media, there's at least one, probably several, frame-shattering misalignments in your perception of reality.

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              1. BYODB   1 hour ago

                In his example, his wife doesn't seem to think much of him. My wife listens when I have something to say although, amusingly, she tries to come up with solutions just as much as I do.

                People who care try to solve problems, people who don't...don't.

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            2. Red Rocks White Privilege   1 hour ago

              There's no reason a man can't also be sympathetic to his wife in those moments, the difficult part is figuring out when she wants to just complain about it or actually wants a solution...at least in my experience over the past twenty or so years.

              Typically, just asking which one tends to clear that up pretty quick.

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              1. BYODB   25 minutes ago


                Typically, just asking which one tends to clear that up pretty quick.

                I mean, you would think so but for an awful lot of women those are fighting words.

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    2. Chumby   3 hours ago

      Did we change writers in the middle of the paragraph? Or is there a little schizophrenia going on here?

      Recall when Liz first started and was dropping little L articles? And then she was given a week off and the offerings seemed more KMWesque? She’s trying to stay employed.

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  28. Fist of Etiquette   3 hours ago

    There's free speech and then there's hate speech...

    Are there any good attorneys, general or otherwise?

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    1. Gaear Grimsrud   44 minutes ago

      First we kill all of the lawyers. Everything will sort itself out shortly thereafter.

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  29. Fist of Etiquette   3 hours ago

    President Donald Trump approved a National Guard deployment to Memphis, expanding the federal government's efforts to crack down on what he has cast as out-of-control crime in Democratic-run cities...

    It sounds like a lot of cities themselves - the aforementioned Democratic runners notwithstanding - also cast the crime as out-of-control. So maybe the out-of-control crime that is spurring this might be worth addressing locally.

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  30. Fist of Etiquette   3 hours ago

    ...but he did not say the words attributed to him by Attiah. And she put it in quotes, which is journalistic malpractice.

    In her defense, how was she supposed to know journalists were being held to a standard again.

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    1. Mickey Rat   2 hours ago

      "Journalists held to standards? How can we survive this outrageous attack on a free press?!" - Sullum, probably.

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  31. I, Woodchipper   3 hours ago

    re "cancel culture"

    Dont care. Press the attack. The left must be destroyed. They have tried for decades to destroy this country and almost succeeded. The pendulum has swung, every so slightly, and we must accelerate it.

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    1. Mike Parsons   2 hours ago

      Im here. This isnt even near the egregious level of cancel culture the left did, but doesnt even matter at this point. They are nothing but double standards, and they are ruining the country.

      There is no choice but to hand them the medicine they dish out, and feel the consequences. They really do live by "there are no rules, only weapons", and you cant nicely reason with these people or try to explain why something is hypocrisy or a double standard. The double standard is the point.

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    2. MWAocdoc   2 hours ago

      Obviously, then, it must be the right's turn to try to destroy this country and nearly succeed. When will it be liberty's turn to STOP the insane clown pendulum from swinging left and right and start leaving people alone to pursue happiness however they choose as long as they don't initiate force against others? And - by the way - when will the right actually repeal any of the harmful laws, agencies and programs implemented by the left instead of co-opting all that machinery to smite their enemies? Still waiting ...

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      1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 hours ago

        Ya know, that high moral ground you claim to be standing on would be more secure if it wasn't a cardboard box labeled 'raging case of TDS' with an arrow pointing directly at you.

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  32. Rick James   2 hours ago

    So let's back up for a moment. Why did cancel culture of the 2010s strike so many of us as so bad and wrong?

    *thinks*

    Who's the 'us' in this sentence?

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    1. Super Scary   1 hour ago

      Yeah, that "us" must be referring the mouse in my pocket because the writers here certainly didn't think it was bad or wrong at the time.

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  33. Rick James   2 hours ago

    James Damore's Google memo about heritability of certain traits and brain differences between genders and how to reduce the gender gap among engineers is a good example

    Oh yeah, James Damore, that dude that a Reason writer mocked by referring to him as the "memo bro".

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    1. I, Woodchipper   2 hours ago

      The guy who was both completely reasonable and 100% correct? The guy who was blacklisted from tech recruiters for years? yeah that guy.

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      1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 hours ago

        The effort to oust him was notably led by Elliot "Liz" Fong-Jones, who's been on a years-long crusade to get Kiwi Farms shut down because the idiot posted about a rape, er, "consent accident" that he committed and it got posted there for general mockery.

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  34. Mickey Rat   2 hours ago

    Fine, Michelle Obama was not a diversity hire. She just got a six-figure "no work" job as a bribe for her husband. Is that better?

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    1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 hours ago

      Yeah. That annoyed me too.

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    2. BYODB   1 hour ago

      According to AI:


      A "Vice President for Community and External Affairs" is a senior leadership role responsible for an organization's external image, reputation, and relationships with stakeholders such as government officials, community leaders, industry groups, and the public. This position involves developing strategies to build and maintain these relationships, engaging in advocacy, managing communications, and influencing public perception to align with the organization's mission and goals.

      So, that would be a glorified PR flak I guess.

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    3. tracerv   1 hour ago

      Tony Soprano approves.

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      1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   18 minutes ago

        So do Toni Preckwinkle, Richard J. Daley, and Michael J. Madigan.

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    4. Mike Parsons   1 hour ago

      Its a pretty easy pattern to spot, and really not refutable.

      Take those mentioned. Did they secure a job in large part because of their gender and the color of their skin? Are they in general significantly less competent than their peers? If yes, they are almost certainly a diversity hire.

      Joy Reid: Hired to race bait for MSNBC, worst ratings in the company, notable retard
      KBJ: Specifically chosen bc black woman, per JB. Nuclear grade retard takes and opinions in record time on SCOTUS
      Kamala Harris: Specifically chosen bc black woman, per JB. Historically unpopular and untalented. His other consideration was Karen Bass (worse?)

      Michelle Obama: She almost more belongs in the Meghan Markle category: untalented with no ratings or ability to generate anything useful, but only 50% a diversity hire, the other 50% is first lady/duchess influence.

      Definitely all varying degrees of diversity hire, but all correct

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      1. Zeb   1 hour ago

        I'd say in Michelle's case, who her husband is is a lot more than 50% of why she gets the job.

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        1. Gaear Grimsrud   22 minutes ago

          Her husband was a diversity hire. I think we can connect the dots from there.

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      2. BYODB   49 minutes ago


        Michelle Obama: She almost more belongs in the Meghan Markle category

        She is in that category now, anyway, but she wasn't back then.

        Also notable, the UCMC said this about her tenure there:


        She built up programs for community relations, neighborhood outreach, volunteer recruitment, staff diversity and minority contracting.

        So even if she wasn't a diversity hire, she was literally involved with diversity hiring and policies. Whoops.

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        1. Gaear Grimsrud   19 minutes ago

          So she was a community organizer. We had a president that put that at the top of his resume.

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  35. Open Borders Libertarian (formerly Sandra)   49 minutes ago

    The ignorant mass looks upon the man who makes a violent protest against our social and economic iniquities as upon a wild beast, a cruel, heartless monster, whose joy it is to destroy life and bathe in blood; or at best, as upon an irresponsible lunatic. Yet nothing is further from the truth. As a matter of fact, those who have studied the character and personality of these men, or who have come in close contact with them, are agreed that it is their super-sensitiveness to the wrong and injustice surrounding them which compels them to pay the toll of our social crimes. The most noted writers and poets, discussing the psychology of political offenders, have paid them the highest tribute. Could anyone assume that these men had advised violence, or even approved of the acts? Certainly not. -Emma Goldman, noted socialist and libertarian

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    1. Mother's Lament   37 minutes ago

      Fuck off Kar, and stop spoofing Sandra's nick, and if you are going to spoof as her at least learn to spell the name right.

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    2. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   18 minutes ago

      Fuck off, KAR.

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  36. Gaear Grimsrud   39 minutes ago

    Kash Patel being lectured by Adam Schiff as we speak. Kash just called him a "political buffoon" to his face. Good times.

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    1. Mother's Lament   35 minutes ago

      If there has ever been a more buffoonish Senator than Adam Schiff I haven't heard it.

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      1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   17 minutes ago

        Adam Schiff is a fucking ass clown in more ways than one.

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