Kirk Murder Suspect Tyler Robinson's Arrest Stirs Speculation About Political Motivation
The 22-year-old Utah man described Charlie Kirk as "hateful."

Authorities have apprehended a suspect in the assassination of Charlie Kirk, the conservative media figure who was killed while participating in a public event at Utah Valley University on Wednesday. The alleged assassin is Tyler Robinson, a 22-year-old resident of Utah.
According to news reports, Robinson's family contacted law enforcement after recognizing the photo circulated by the FBI. Robinson then confessed to his father, a Utah sheriff, who detained Robinson until national law enforcement could arrive to arrest him. Interviews with Robinson's family and roommate have yielded additional confirmation that he is the shooter: He had recently told people that he thought Kirk was "hateful."
Given that Kirk was a high-profile conservative commentator, activist, and leader, many people have assumed that the killer's motive would eventually be revealed as anti-Republican animus—though it should be noted that similar assassinations have not always involved discernible left-right politics. For instance, the shooting of former Rep. Gabby Giffords (D–Ariz.) in 2011 was initially assumed to be politically motivated, and Republican campaign messaging—including specifically, from a political action committee that was connected to former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin—received significant blame. It eventually became clear that the shooter, Jared Loughner, was psychotic, did not have a clear agenda, and had never seen the campaign materials in question. Thomas Matthew Crooks, who attempted to assassinate Donald Trump in Butler, Pennsylvania, in July 2024, does not fit neatly into a political box in terms of his ideology.
All that said, it's certainly possible that a more straightforward political motivation will emerge in this case. Speaking at a press conference Friday morning, Utah Gov. Spencer Cox confirmed that Robinson disliked Kirk's politics, and read off the messages inscribed into the shell casings of the gun used to assassinate him.
Utah Governor Spencer Cox says that suspected Charlie Kirk assassin Tyler Robinson hated Kirk because of his political views pic.twitter.com/l8VTVB4QSw
— Ryan Saavedra (@RealSaavedra) September 12, 2025
The inscribed phrases included: "Hey fascist! Catch!" and "Oh bella ciao, bella ciao, bella ciao, ciao, ciao," an antifascist song. These are messages associated with antifa, an informal leftist movement whose participants often endorse violence against their perceived enemies on the right. The shell casings also included the messages: "If you can read this you are gay lmao" and "notices bulges," which are best described as catchphrases—the internet calls them "copypasta"—associated with online chat forums like Reddit, 4chan, and Tumblr. Use of such phrases suggests that the alleged killer was very, very online.
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There is zero speculation at this point. It is a known motivation. What the fuck is wrong with the headline writers here.
Internet is in full gaslight mode. Countless "he's a Republican / Trump supporter" or "clearly right wing"
Its like, have you seen a portland Antifa riot? This kid is the poster child. He's got the complete reddit tanky antifascist package.
Yeah, the steaming pile of lefty shit SBF filled a couple of threads recently claiming Crooks 'was a Republican!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!'.
Someone called him a right winger because he’s a white male and from Utah. There is a disease of the mind out there and I don’t know what’s to be done about it.
Crooks was a Republican because he registered Republican.
SBF is a lying pile of lefty shit.
I’m a Trump Republican. Why would I lie about copycats when Republicans are in power?? I want to stop the copycats! You simply don’t care about this violence and care more about scoring political points.
The asshole Sam Bankman-Fried lies. Sam Bankman-Fried lies when he knows he’s lying. Sam Bankman-Fried lies when we know he’s lying. Sam Bankman-Fried lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
Sam Bankman-Fried lies. Sam Bankman-Fried is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.
Per Wikipedia: "Crooks had been registered to vote since September 2021, when he turned 18.[3] He registered as a Republican,[3][4][51][54] and he voted only once (in the 2022 midterm elections).[50]"
So in order to maintain whatever narrative you imagine, you're claiming that a person registered to vote as a Republican is not actually a Republican? Does this same logic apply to Democrats as well? That any news source not adhering exactly to your "ideas" is automatically lying? Or is the #truth really that you're a morally bankrupt, childish, moronic motherfucker?
Also, you forgot "slimy" again.
The Average Asshole (Who's Dumber Than a Bag of Rocks) has never heard of 'false flag'.
But he is a slimy piece of shit, ain't he?
Oh, and we REALLY appreciate a Wiki cite!
The only major false flag I’m aware of is the instigator of the George Floyd violence was a Trump supporting white supremacist. Republicans tend to be more capable than progressive soy boys and Karens.
That's because you're a fucking ignoramus.
So, in order to maintain whatever narrative you imagine, you refuse to acknowledge that he donated to ActBlue, an organization that was openly urging the portion of donors who were unregistered voters, to register as Republicans, not because they actually were, but to attempt to disrupt elections.
You're a morally bankrupt, childish, moronic, slimy motherfucker, Mr Leftist Shit (who's barely smarter than a rock).
ActBlue cons people out of money all the time!! Registering Republican is straightforward!!! Plus Crooks was a gun nut Christian just like the Kirk shooter.
AWR is nelson? Makes sense. Could still be sarc though. Always self declares himself smart but retarded.
I’m very open that I’m sub genius with a 125 IQ. I know a lot of people with over 140 IQs and they all consider me an equal knowing my IQ isn’t genius level.
The asshole Sam Bankman-Fried lies. Sam Bankman-Fried lies when he knows he’s lying. Sam Bankman-Fried lies when we know he’s lying. Sam Bankman-Fried lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
Sam Bankman-Fried lies. Sam Bankman-Fried is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.
He also donated to Act Blue. Not a very Republican thing to do. But pretty on point for the many young liberal activists at the time who were all over tiktok promising to register republican so they could fuck with the primaries.
Is that who Crooks was? Who knows. But the fact that SBF and you only point to his registration and not his donation history, nor the many interviews with his family and friends who say he was kinda crazy- well it suggests that you are just deflecting.
Cope more, coper! Trump is an idiot that tarnished the legacy of Kirk by jumping to conclusions.
S B-F lies. Sam Bankman-Fried lies when he knows he’s lying. Sam Bankman-Fried lies when we know he’s lying. Sam Bankman-Fried lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
Sam Bankman-Fried lies. Sam Bankman-Fried is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.
I actually think that how a person is registered to vote is the #1 least reliable method of identifying political ideology. Half my family is registered Democrats and none of them vote Democrat. I know multiple families where one spouse is registered in the other party just so they can figure out who NOT to vote for on non-partisan elections based on who is promoting who.
So yeah, registration is sophist-tier generalizing.
They're acting like someone raised in a conservative family isn't capable of getting mindrotted by university marxists and peer pressure.
The guy had a Discord account and was using antifascist memes on the bullet casings. It's pure nuclear level cope because they're so desperate for him to be some turbo-chud.
It certainly means something when the side that has been laughing about a political assassination immediately pivots to "oh ackshully he's from the OTHER side, we didn't even do this violence that we approve of and want more of."
At least you are admitting he wasn’t pro trans as Crowder initially reported. Btw, if Crowder had information the shooter was anti trans he would never in a million years report it so why believe anything he reports???
At least you are admitting he wasn’t pro trans as Crowder initially reported.
LOL, the fucker is a marxist, of course he's pro-trans. You really think you're kidding anyone with this bullshit?
Nope, he looks like a good student young Republican that really likes guns just like Crooks.
Sam Bankman-Fried lies. Sam Bankman-Fried lies when he knows he’s lying. Sam Bankman-Fried lies when we know he’s lying. Sam Bankman-Fried lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
Sam Bankman-Fried lies. Sam Bankman-Fried is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pile of lefty shit besides.
LOL, cope harder.
Well the murderer was a self-described anti-fascist. So he clearly was of the left. Progressives who deny that fact are delusional.
Just as delusional as the MAGA idiots who deny that the Charleston, Pittsburgh, El Paso, Dallas and many other white-first shooters were of the right.
Other that, what’s up Peanuts?
turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
Fuck off and die, asswipe.
Shut up Sevo. You San Fran Tenderloin dwelling fairy.
turd, the TDS-addled ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
Fuck off and die, asswipe.
Where’s your original account?
I’m the original shrike, asshole. Don’t ever forget that.
turd, the TDS-addled shit-stain of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
Fuck off and die, asswipe.
Bring back well adjusted biden guy.
It was a sacrificial puppet that got banned for posting illegal content?
You misplaced that comma.
https://psychcentral.com/disorders/treating-pedophilia
You sure know a lot of pedophilia! Hmmmm
They're going hard on the he came from a Republican family angle which means they know he wasn't one if it wasn't evident enough from the crime he committed.
His family didn’t “pray the prog away”?
I heard nutcases say that prayer is the answer.
“Thoughts and prayers” accomplish nothing.
turd, the TDS-addled ass-wipe of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
Fuck off and die, asswipe.
Rather elegant admission that universities really are marxist mindfuck cult seminaries.
Not really. I’m a determinist. Some people are born “bleeding heart” progressive or psychopath conservative.
Yeah, really. Saying someone is "born with" certain political views is the height of stupidity. No two month old is thinking about politics while sucking on breast milk, doofy.
I didn’t say they were born with political views.
I do say they are born overly empathetic or sociopathic.
turd, the TDS-addled asshole of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
Fuck off and die, asswipe.
I didn’t say they were born with political views.
Some people are born “bleeding heart” progressive or psychopath conservative.
LOL, the fuck you think you're kidding? Your dumb ass can't even remember what you typed a comment earlier.
Ya, because no kid in college that's online too much ever goes to college and then has radically different views than their conservative parents, def a phenomenon that has never been seen
Crooks was a bitter clinger MAGA Republican—a true DEPLORABLE!! But his profile was that of a suicidal school shooter…looks like this guy is a copycat just like I warned!!
Fuck off and die, asswipe.
Um, no. Your typical suicidal school shooter keeps shooting until he's out of ammo or is stopped (usually dead). This guy at least had some exit plan, even if it didn't work out too well.
And we're fortunate he had a family willing to do what needed to be done.
So did Mangione…Crooks and Mangione and this guy aren’t full blown crazy but they all actually had an opportunity to be very successful in America and threw it away….because they are descending into mental illness. They are all 18-26 years of age which is when young men become mentally ill. Bottom like—media produced copycats!
Right, so none of them behaved like a suicidal school shooter. I'm not saying any of them were of sound mind. But they all had specific targets for specific reasons. Not the same as nihilistic, suicidal mass murderers.
Zeb, you're an overall pretty balanced guy compared to the extreme sides some people take here. You're wasting your time trying to talk to that guy. He is literally only here to troll.
Nope. I just state facts and back them up. You have simply immersed yourself in an echo chamber seeking confirmation bias and so you rationalize every fact that doesn’t line up with the false narratives you subscribe to as “trolling”.
Nope. You just lie, asswipe.
They all have to know they might end up getting shot like Crooks…they definitely don’t mind dying which is in fact suicidal!! So “suicidality” is probably the term I’m looking for because they aren’t blowing their brains out…so Christopher Walken’s character in The Deer Hunter is a good example.
Sam Bankman-Fried lies. S B-F lies when he knows he’s lying. Sam Bankman-Fried lies when we know he’s lying. Sam Bankman-Fried lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
Sam Bankman-Fried lies. Sam Bankman-Fried is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pile of lefty shit besides.
Kill yourself.
We still have multiple writers and commenters here who think that the guy responsible for shooting the lawmakers in Minnesota was 'right-wing', despite all evidence. That's been disproven for over 3 months. This has been 4 hours since we found out the identity of the alleged shooter.
Seems like a pretty classic white to upper middle class family with a brain rotted Antifa kid.
Nope, don’t get your information from Crowder!! Wow. This guy looks like a classic suicidal school shooter just like Crooks.
Fuck off and die, shit-stain.
If he thinks he murdered a fascist then I have a good idea of his place in the political spectrum.
Suspect Tyler Robinson allegedly wrote some Antifa phrases on fire casings: "Hey fascist!" and "oh bella ciao, bella ciao, bella ciao, ciao, ciao." The lyrics are to an old Italian protest song now used by Antifa as a theme song.
RS: "We have no way of knowing the killer's political beliefs. I guess it will remain a mystery."
The gaslighting and bold lying about previous shooters was especially insulting. Either he is misinformed and stupid or an evil partisan liar.
At this point, I think if you were caught with a time machine and a theoretical hit list including Reagan, Nixon, Trump, Washington, Milton Friedman, Rupert Murdoch, and Dick Cheney, the left would without the least bit of shame respond with "well obviously this person was on the right!"
Sullum and Boehm working on the Trump tariffs angle?
how about a "JD Vance is wrong about the murderer's motives" ?
They had a full on campaign against Trump that he was a fascist, then brain rotted wanna be heroes shot at him trying to kill him. Then the internet had a full on campaign calling Charlie a fascist and a deranged online kid murdered him for being a fascist...
Ya, motives a mystery to me! Probably nothing to be done!
Killing somebody in cold blood means you’re the one who isn’t full of hate.
Steven King on Twitter shared that Charlie Kirk said that gays should be stoned to death.
This is why Charlie Kirk is dead. People just believed this shit with zero evidence. Because he’s “on the right” and outspoken, therefore he must be the most evil caricature they can conjure. And Steven King is not some random idiotic; strip away politics and he’s a thoughtful, rational human being. Imagine what people more prone to irrational thoughts believe.
There is a sickness in the world.
"...And Steven King is not some random idiotic; strip away politics and he’s a thoughtful, rational human being..."
Not by the evidence you've cited. He's a hate-filled piece of lying shit.
Steven King, like most of those in entertainment, is a proud member of Team Blue
Stephen King has to butt-lick Team Blue with all his might, if he’s not to be cancelled for his portrayal of black people in his novels that have made him filthy rich.
https://www.levelman.com/stephen-king-needs-more-black-friends-5547f245d424/
King writes almost all of his Black characters, magical or otherwise, in problematic ways. When they are not magical they are horrendous stereotypes: dope fiends and brutes (The Stand), jive-talking thugs (End of Watch), and worse (the short story “Dedication”). More, King’s characters never happen to be Black; he intentionally makes it clear that they are Black from the outset, usually with jaw-droppingly offensive descriptions: Mother Abigail in The Stand is “coal-black” and further described as looking like an “old black Everglades alligator…”
To be fair, <The Stand was written in the 1970's.
Mother Abigail was the protagonist. Ultimate good guy.
That's kinda my point. He's a hate-filled piece of shit on anything that touches on politics. You get him into a discussion on anything that you can completely divorce from politics and he's thoughtful, rational, and intelligent. His books are well-written, his writing advice is thoughtful and helpful. He's capable of nuanced ideas and recognizing rational discourse and sequences of causality.
His politics have made him angry and hateful to the point of psychopathy. It's a type of brainrot that I find to be legitimately concerning.
Absolutely. And of course this logic applies to the Right as well. I'm sure many of the MAGA-conformists here in these comments are generally reasonable people outside of politics and any discussion of Trump; well, maybe not reasonable but at least normal. The kind of folks you can shoot pool or go to the ballgame with. Politics does indeed turn many people into drooling idiots.
Can't wait for Sevo to call me a 'lefty, TDS-addled slimy POS' just to prove us right - there's no hope for him unfortunately.
Fuck off, Sarckles. You own this. Don't try and boaf sides us.
Gee, you shouldn't have to wait for anyone to point out the obvious that you are a lefty, TDS-addled slimy POS.
Once you realize he included an entire child organization scene in IT, you realize he is a fucked up person.
Maybe King said that Kirk was a Bible-believing Christian fundamentalist and that the Bible says that gays/adulterers should be stoned to death?
I haven’t read the quote but I doubt King would make that kind of mistake.
As a rationalist myself I know that the Bible/Quran are both total horse shit.
What does it say to do to pedos like you?
turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
turd lies. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.
Crooks was a Republican….but between ages 18-26 is when males devolve into madness. The Kirk shooter has a similar profile of Crooks and Mangione as they were all good students and Republicans and then they went crazy and became suicidal.
Sam Bankman-Fried lies. Sam Bankman-Fried lies when he knows he’s lying. Sam Bankman-Fried lies when we know he’s lying. Sam Bankman-Fried lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
Sam Bankman-Fried lies. Sam Bankman-Fried is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.
Crooks was a Democrat, Pluggo, and the fruit of your lies and demagoguery.
And yet...
https://x.com/StephenKing/status/1966484038648021264
"I doubt King would make that kind of mistake."
Wrong! Also, fuck you and go to hell!
Kirk was having a discussion with a Youtuber, and she pointed out that the bible says "love thy neighbor" , and applied it to gays being worthy of love and respect. Kirk pointed out that the bible, specifically Leviticus, it says to stone gays , so there's that.
King is off because Kirk didn't specifically endorse that passage in context, so much as stated a fact that the bible also has anti gay sentiment; which it does.
Charlie Kirk was open and accepting of gays and invited them into the conservative movement. In one instance he pointed out that simply taking quotes from the Bible out of context isn't a proper argument style, but he was compassionate and not hateful. He didn't condone or endorse the words of the Bible simply quoted them, and it was clipped out of context.
So many people willing to believe the absolute worst about people with zero evidence.
I looked it up. King said that Kirk “advocated” stoning. Kirk didn’t directly say that.
King apologized.
If King had said Kirk adopted a religion that states that adulterers be stoned he would have been correct.
King should add a 2 to the end of his name going forward.
"If King had said Kirk adopted a religion that states that adulterers be stoned he would have been correct."
Kirk was Jewish? Where in the New Testament does it say stoning gays is okay? In fact in the Gospel of John Jesus demonstrated that stoning someone for sinning is not okay.
How do you grow up in a culture steeped in Christianity for at least 1400 years and yet remain so remarkably ignorant on its basic tenets, Pluggo?
Cherry picking the Bible now?
I didn’t say New Testament. Fundies believe the whole thing is the word of Gawd. Even the creation myth.
No, shitstain, pointing out YOU are cherry-picking.
Liberty_Belle is picking cherries in the hopes of justifying her TDS.
When did you become radicalized Sevo?
What kind of trauma did you endure?
https://psychcentral.com/disorders/treating-pedophilia
And Steven King is not some random idiotic; strip away politics and he’s a thoughtful, rational human being.
He's a human being anyway. Thoughtful and rational are wishful thinking.
I don't know, maybe he slipped and the gun just went off.
Maybe he was just practicing and someone got in the way
Or just another Deadeye Dick.
(Vonnegut reference makes me cool)
Maybe it was a celebration shot for Kirk that went bad. - MSNBC
Yep, a Bush Republican said that on MSGOPe the network of Lizard Cheney.
Sam Bankman-Fried lies. Sam Bankman-Fried lies when he knows he’s lying. Sam Bankman-Fried lies when we know he’s lying. Sam Bankman-Fried lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
Sam Bankman-Fried lies. Sam Bankman-Fried is a lying pile of lefty shit and an asshole besides.
All that said, it's certainly possible that a more straightforward political motivation will emerge in this case.
WTHF? Do you have evidence that they knew Kirk or owed him money or something? Otherwise, for all the "lived experiences" and "seen" horseshit you guys have spread all over the place for the last several years in defense of mostly peacefully burning down police stations, you dumbfucks sure as hell jumped on the "He couldn't possibly hate him as an icon or a persona."/"Let's minimize the rhetoric for *this* death." bandwagon awful quickly.
FFS, how many eulogies did you guys write about Garrett Foster and the dude just happened to be part of a protest that was obstructing Perry? This motherfucker wanted to kill Charlie Kirk specifically and didn't want to just kill him, it would be too easy in half or more of the country to walk into a convenience store behind Kirk, shoot him, and get away scott free, but wanted him to die in front of an audience. Fuck you asshats for defending him even if he is insane. Loughner was nuts too. Doesn't mean he isn't politically oriented and the fact that he couldn't have seen Palin's material shows just how far you and your team will go to fabricate a narrative on one side while trying to tamp down the other. Fuck you.
I was going to post something similar to your post but now I don't have to. All of this hand wringing about the motive is just stupid and it's no surprise that little Robby would phone in a few paragraphs so he can pretend he's relevant. Just believe your own lying eyes. It's not complicated.
I didn't even realize it was Robby and figured his $0.02 had already been chipped in.
Somebody was asking why Robby was so bad, this is why. This is why Robby "Christine Blasey Ford is superficially credible" Soave should not be equivocating on the motives of someone who shot Charlie Kirk in the fucking neck.
Its probably just hedging against the increasingly unlikely possibility that he is some kind of mastermind who cultivated a fake online persona.
Seems a bit premature to speculate. But if we are going to be Baysian about it the probability is that he was opposed to Kirk's politics. Could he be mentally ill? Yeah, probably, but that does not negate the political causation. Hateful ideologigies are there to be picked up and used by anyone, sane or insane.
That being said, it's just one act of vioilence amidst a sea of violence in this country. If anyone is using this one instance to support a generalization they are just thinking poorly. The same day a school shooter in CO acted on ideology as well.
The point is that we are in a sickened culture and the sickness is bipartisan, full stop.
'...the sickness is on the left, full stop...'
Fixed.
No. It is not too premature. It is known. Just stop.
Is it bipartisan like when Sen Collins votes with dems? 90/10? Fuck off.
Supporting Planned Parenthood clinics in Baltimore seems pretty conservative to me….lets triple their budget!! 😉
Sam Bankman-Fried lies. Sam Bankman-Fried lies when he knows he’s lying. Sam Bankman-Fried lies when we know he’s lying. Sam Bankman-Fried lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
Sam Bankman-Fried lies. Sam Bankman-Fried is a lying pile of lefty shit and a shit-stain besides.
It is shrike. So of course he does.
Fuck you Jesse. You lie.
I own my statements. If I adopt a sock (Fat Rush Limpcock) I make sure you know it’s me.
"I own my statements..."
OFFS! Let's make is clear:
turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
Seems a bit premature to speculate.
LOL, cope harder.
Wouldn't be surprised if those Discord logs showed other users juicing the guy up.
The kid they got the discord from claimed he thought he was joking.
the shooting of former Rep. Gabby Giffords
This has ZERO to do witht this story. Stop bringing up unrelated bullshit so you can equivocate away the reality that years of he is a Fascist! propaganda and other calumny have brainwashed mulitudes of violent leftwing foot solider. What the fuck is wrong with you assholes!?
Loughner was a democrat. He was her supporter. He felt she was ignoring him. But this shit continues to persist.
Loughner is a specific case where his political affiliation isn't really material. The guy was a full-on schizo who shot Giffords for no other reason than he was completely brain-broke.
Yes. I agree with you for once. That guy was a true imbecile.
Same thing with the Reagan shooter right? The guy thought if he killed the president some celebrity would love him?
Yeah, he thought it would impress Jodie Foster. Completely cuckoo for Coco Puffs.
antifa, an informal leftist movement
There you go again downplaying anything that could get you univited to a cocktail party. Get bent.
They dont even have membership cards. No you cant count the common tattoos and symbolism.
Or a common flag to rally around.
Or the uniform or the chants.
'cultural phrases' amirite?
BTW, I think we can offer a heart-felt "thanks" to his family for turning him in. It was probably tough, but it was certainly the right thing to do.
It’s a cruel irony that just as young men are expected to become independent is when mental illness strikes…that’s evidence that God has forsaken us!!!
Sam Bankman-Fried lies. Sam Bankman-Fried lies when he knows he’s lying. Sam Bankman-Fried lies when we know he’s lying. Sam Bankman-Fried lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
Sam Bankman-Fried lies. Sam Bankman-Fried is a lying pile of lefty shit and an asswipe besides.
Like I said, the reason I think he confessed to his dad was because he figured it was just a matter of time before they actually caught him. He'd left DNA and prints in the area, they had grainy-ass photos but were probably doing cell phone forensics, and didn't know what else to do.
I'm honestly surprised he didn't take a revolver out to some off-road trail in Grand Staircase and kill himself.
He didn't kill himself because this is the path to the life he wants. Sure he spends a decade in jail, but when he gets out there's a high paying low-effort job waiting for him in academia. Plus he gets to tap (or get tapped by) half of the thousands of left wingers wearing shorts with his face on them. There are benefits to being a Hero to the Revolution.
Just ask Bill Ayers how it works.
I doubt he's getting out of prison ever.
One future leftist presidential pardon.
Wouldn't it need a governor's pardon? In Utah of all places?
Why not? Bill Ayers did, and our society is much more radicalized now. I suspect if you asked someone in the 1980s if we'd ever have campus sex police or a movement to defund the police they would have scoffed. But here we are.
Dude, Cox already implied that he's going to pursue the death penalty. Even if he gets the typical 20-30 years of appeals, he's still a dead dog unless his attorney can convince the DA to weather the inevitable shitstorm by accepting a life sentence. If Cox backs out on that now, he's going to look like a total pussy.
"If Cox backs out on that now, he's going to look like a total pussy."
I have bad news...
Yes, I realize we can't totally discount that. These are not the Brigham Young era Mormons that took on the US Army.
Nonetheless, bet he pleads "not guilty.'
Who did it better. RS or MSNBC?
Kyle Becker
@kylenabecker
MSNBC is deliberately misleading their left-wing viewers about the motives of the Charlie Kirk assassin.
The network claims there is "no theme" when it comes to Tyler Robinson's bullet casings.
He literally wrote "hey fascist! catch!" and Antifa phrases on bullet casings.
Just like there was "no motive" when a radical k*lled two children at a Minnesota church even though he had "kill Trump" and anti-Christian messages on the weapons.
And there was "no motive" when a 14-time repeat offender stabbed Iryna Zarutska and said "got that white girl."
What else is new? MSNBC has become an accomplice to political violence.
https://x.com/kylenabecker/status/1966530873383162338
What about RW and Flipkowski?
Ron Filipkowski
@RonFilipkowski
So after days of Republicans blaming and vilifying Democrats and trans people for Kirk’s murder despite having no clue who the person was, we find out it’s a white guy from a Republican family in Utah who loved guns.
https://x.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1966503963370356915
Montage of dems with the same language as Tyler.
https://x.com/WesternLensman/status/1966548716770206158
Well, he just sort of forgot the antifa stuff, didn't he, the lying pile of shit.
Like I said, absolute nuclear-level cope.
Personally, I think Robby "Christine Blasey-Ford's accusations are superficially credible" Soave's equivocations do it best.
She waited 30+ yrs. to have a hazy repressed memory of faultily encoded neurons of an experience no one can verify and the only contextual details supporting are against or completely unreliable... but it's superficially credible. But the guy who shot Charlie Kirk in the neck in the middle of a speech to an audience less than a week ago has nebulous and nuanced motives that we may never truly elucidate.
you may want to rethink this piece before you post.
"Thomas Matthew Crooks, who attempted to assassinate Donald Trump in Butler, Pennsylvania, in July 2024, does not fit neatly into a political box in terms of his ideology."
If I were to speculate, and I will, Crooks motivation likely similar to John Hinckley's. Both would-be assassins were motivated, in part, to impress a parent, or parents (not Jody Foster). Hinckley's family favored Bush over Reagan, probably strongly so. Crook's Democrat and Libertarian parents likely despised Trump.
If I were to speculate, and this is pure speculation, it's that months and years of media coverage that described Trump as the next Hitler convinced some people that the moral thing to do is to shoot Hitler. Because if he IS going to be Hitler, start a massive war, kill millions of people and exterminate millions more, the right thing to do IS to shoot him. So he probably had some anti-Trump ideological leanings regardless and there's no evidence he was schizophrenic or suffering any kind of a mental break.
I had a friend years ago who was schizophrenic. He called me in the middle of the night once to tell me he was going to Bosnia to fight the Serbs who were ethnic cleansing the Bosnian Muslims. I had no idea where he came up with this, maybe saw something on the news, but never before had he expressed any interest in world affairs, or defending Muslims (in fact, he had called them ragheads and sand nggrs on several occasions).
My point here is who knows at this point what made Robinson decide to shoot Kirk. If he’s mentally unstable anything could have set him off. As others have said, maybe he was trying to impress a girl who hated Kirk or supported Antifa
My point here is who knows at this point what made Robinson decide to shoot Kirk.
Well, based on the circumstantial evidence and reporting thus far, I'd say it was the same as what led Ron Hutchison to try and assassinate Republican Congressmen.
My point here is who knows at this point what made Robinson decide to shoot Kirk. If he’s mentally unstable anything could have set him off. As others have said, maybe he was trying to impress a girl who hated Kirk or supported Antifa
Did I hallucinate 2020-2021 when more than half the goddamned world turned into Nazis overnight? When they called the other half conspiracy theorists who turned out to be exactly right?
It's astounding how everything from N95 masks to TVs to stereo equipment to penguins on a deserted island off the coast of Australia is political right up until someone takes a bullet to the neck. *Then* we shouldn't be too hasty to ascribe potentially misplaced political motivations? Fuck that.
Motivations have to have been political (and misplaced). That's the reasonable assumption. But there's still got to be some differentiating factor between him and the large number of people who had similar thoughts but would never follow through by actually shooting someone.
You're complicating this too much. The guy got juiced up by people on Discord, and decided to kill Kirk. It's not really more nuanced than that.
It's not any different than the guy who shot up the synagogue, who was spazzing out on Parler about "fuck your optics" right before it happened. Guy simply decided that people he hated had to die.
LMFAO. What speculation is this stirring you fucking idiot? Every incurious dolt that writes for this leftist rag is a regime bootlicker.
I remember when Reason was a libertarian publication.
Have been here 15+ years and mostly only ever found little L in the comments.
I wonder if Trump will pardon him and call him a patriot. Probably not because he just murdered someone and did not engage in a violent attempted coup.
Why are you here?
To make the better leftist actors pretending to be libertarian less obvious. 2 pronged attack.
You should've thought thru this a bit more and edited it before you hit submit.
Once you go full retard you can never stop.
"I wonder if Trump will pardon him and call him a patriot. "
I can't even fathom why you would even think that. Is this a reference to something specific or are you just retarded?
Charliehall is going to have a tough go trying to out retard you.
Unless they are the same retard.
It’s certainly possible, Robbie concedes, that a straightforward political motivation might emerge.
How bold. I would think it tiring, just exhausting, to indulge the social-image gymnastics necessary to dance around stating the obvious truth.
There is no “ possible” here. This was political murder done by a lefty punk. Little Tyler and his little mind emerged from his little echo chamber to satiate his and their emotive distortions.
The good news is, Utah has the death penalty, so he can soon apologize to Kirk in person.
I dunno. Their afterlife destinations might be quite different.
I'm seeing people claim he's a republican because he "dressed up as Trump for Halloween" but when you see the picture of his costume, he's riding an inflatable Trump like a mule and he painted Trump's face green like a zombie or goblin.
We're are not dealing with truthful people here. They are desperate.
And even if he had dressed as Trump, it's a Halloween costume. If I dress up as a vampire for Halloween, that is not an endorsement of blood sucking monsters.
We really don't know what the motivation was, but clearly he is not of sound mind because every killer is not of sound mind.
He may very well be a violent leftist who has a very distorted of reality. Charlie Kirk was more of a moderate that anything else and focused on dialog as an alternative of violence.
"Charlie Kirk was more of a moderate that anything else and focused on dialog as an alternative of violence."
This is the part that most people are reacting to I think. He wasn't some fire and brimstone guy standing on an apple crate shouting into a megaphone. He held structured debates on college campuses and that was reason enough for him to be assassinated.
Engraving your bullet casings doesn't strike me as particularly "well balanced" in the first place.
Luigi made it cool. Don't you want to be cool?
He may very well be a violent leftist who has a very distorted of reality.
The bullet casings all had memes of the typical dirtbag leftist, ChapoTraphouse goon speak.
Robbie, is it hard working for Mother Jones, I mean Reason? A lot of "yeah buts" that the legacy/left media engaged in. No real condemation of a very public murder. The problem with Reason and I've seen it for awhile is the libertarian magazine of record has no libertarian writers anymore. Lots of reasons to despise Trump. But nary a word during the Biden adminstration. You know folks, I lived through Bush I and even worse Bush II, both were more awful than Trump or Obama. And both Trump and Obama are despicable. But I DO think Trump is trying to catch up with the neocons as we will see in the coming months, when the mask comes off, Trump is also a neocon. Most presidents save for maybe Calvin Cooligde in the last 150 years have been complete psycopaths. But for sure every president since at least Nixon is a diagnosable psychopath.
Is this an eerie resemblance or what?
https://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth337695/