FBI Blunders and Internet Panic: How the Search for Charlie Kirk's Killer Went Off the Rails
The alleged shooter was turned in by his family and roommates while the surveillance state remained clueless.
Authorities announced on Friday morning that they made progress in solving a mystery that has gripped the nation for two days: who murdered conservative activist Charlie Kirk with a rifle during a crowded event at Utah Valley University.
Utah Republican Gov. Spencer Cox told reporters that 22-year-old Tyler Robinson had been turned in by his family after he "confessed to them or implied" his guilt in the assassination. A roommate also showed police Discord chat messages from Robinson about hiding a rifle, according to Cox, who said that Robinson acted alone.
Without those tips, it's hard to know how long the manhunt would have gone on for. The night before, authorities had signaled that they were completely stumped. Officials pleaded with the public for information based on a few grainy surveillance stills on Thursday night, and Utah Public Safety Commissioner Beau Mason told NBC News that authorities had "no idea" where the shooter was.
Progressive critics—as well as conservative consigliere Chris Rufo—have accused FBI Director Kash Patel of bungling the investigation. Patel had caused major confusion by implying on social media that the FBI had caught the shooter, only to announce that the "subject" had been released after interrogation. That man, who was completely innocent, suffered a flood of threats after his name and photo were publicized.
Adding to the confusion, police were also filmed escorting a local elderly gadfly out of the event while the crowd blamed him for the shooting. And to make matters worse, internet sleuths misidentified him as yet another innocent person who was nowhere near Utah at the time.
Of course, chaos and mistakes are an unavoidable part of crises. Thankfully, none of these mistakes led to anyone's death, as they have in the past. It will take a while for the full story behind the Kirk investigation to come out, to understand which errors were understandable and which were inexcusable.
At the very least, the manner of Robinson's arrest throws cold water on the idea that mass spying and heavy-handed police powers are the solution to dramatic crimes. In his post lambasting Patel's leadership, Rufo also called for "a campaign to disrupt domestic terror networks" and "to investigate, infiltrate, and disrupt the violent movements—of whatever ideology—that threaten the peace in the United States."
But it's not clear that more aggressive political surveillance would have stopped or caught the suspected assassin. The photos that identified him came from old-fashioned security cameras in a hallway, which captured him walking up a stairway and then jumping off the roof after the assassination. Robinson's father, a longtime sheriff's deputy, reportedly recognized his son from the photos and told him to turn himself in.
Meanwhile, the release of the surveillance photos had led to a flood of tips that wasted the authorities' time. At the Thursday night press conference, Cox said that authorities were sifting through 7,000 tips from the public.
"It is clear they do not know the name of the suspect, that they don't have a cellphone track, they don't have fingerprints, DNA, or digital footprint," journalist John Solomon, who is close to Patel, told Fox News after the press conference. "And that's why they're putting so much personally identifying information up, to try to help get the public to find something that's there."
And the assassination did not come out of an organized political network that could be infiltrated. Although there are signs pointing to a left-wing motive—Cox said that a family member told police that Robinson was angry about Kirk coming to Utah because of his political beliefs—Robinson seems to be, like many other shooting suspects, a lone wolf who spent too much time on the internet.
An internal law enforcement bulletin, leaked to the press, initially reported that the shooter had written messages about "transgender and anti-fascist ideology" on bullet casings. Those turned out to be a mix of references to the video game Helldivers 2 (which features killing fascists) and lewd jokes. "If you read this you are gay LMAO," one of the casings read. Another mocked the "furry" fetish subculture.
An eccentric personality with no criminal record who plays lots of video games and dislikes conservatives is a pretty broad profile, one that covers potentially millions of people. Most of them are neither violent nor members of organized political "networks" that could be disrupted. If the past few days are any indication, encouraging mass online reporting of anyone suspicious can actually make the police's job harder.
Using Kirk's murder to tighten government restrictions would not only be ineffective at preventing more incidents like it. It would also be an unfortunate rebuke to Kirk, who often preached freedom over control.
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There’s more snitching than sleuthing in the FBI.
- Howie Carr
Who blew up Nordstream?
From where did covid come?
Who was the anthrax letter mailer?
Stop watching CSI and Netflix.
Well they got the Tylenol killer right? And that guy that jumped out of an airplane with a big bag of cash? The G Men never failed until Patel went off the rails.
If it turns out that Mike Hihn was DB Cooper, that would be hilarious.
I've never seen a picture of Hihn and Cooper together. And Hihn has no obvious means of support. It doesn't take a professional crime fighter to connect the dots.
Petti theft
Zodiac.
Article triggered five muted anuum right off the bat. Good work, Reason!
Do you mean Doobie Keebler?
Has that little revolution of yours started yet? 😀 Turns out right-wingers are so obese, scared and inept that they cant even do some weekend riots lol
I have been warning about furries for decades!! They lose all of their humanity when they descend into their sick fantasies of animalistic desires!
Keep thinking that you dumb cunt. The noose is already starting to tighten. Trump is gong after the Soros Crime Family. Next, antifa and related groups will be designated as terror organizations.
Do you have any affiliation with those groups? I’ll bet you do. You should probably start living in fear. Or maybe just GTFO and head to Venezuela.
The comms majors at Reason are experts of every industry. How dare you.
Captain Kirk went to become one with the stars for good. And outside of skewed, impotent Jesusland, this wasn't big news.
Those forced half staffs though... cringe, out there for everybody to see. Excellent job, gentlemen. You have once more successfully alienated everyone that is not a right-wing chode.
Apparently this "not big news outside of Jesusland" is producing memorials in places as far away as Great Britain, Germany, and South Korea, among other places.
What I find far more cringe than "forced" half staffed flags, though, is the celebrations of a murder of someone strictly over that person's political beliefs -- and these celebrations are alienating everyone but the monsters who are providing answers to "who's next".
This one event has caused the Right to flip 180° on "Cancel Culture", and they've been collecting scalps: dozens of people who have lost their jobs for celebrating this assassination.
You could minimize this as "successfully alienat[ing] everyone that is not a right-wing chode", but the fact is, you and your ilk have alienated everyone who loves freedom and there's no turning back: the Right is now out for blood -- and here's to hoping that they keep this phrase figuratively -- but if the Leftists are so stupid they take out another conservative, there's a very real possibility that conservatives will respond in kind.
You can console yourself that "this wasn't big news" all you want, if it helps you sleep better, but if you need even more help: just rest assured that you are very unlikely to be among the first to be taken out, if conservatives get to the point that we feel we must respond in kind.
Lmfao ooorah buddy OORRRAAAAHHHH 😀 we are SO scared of your revolution and the rage of obese, out-competed, irrlevant, stinking right-wing walruses that can barely move let alone fight anything lmfaaaoooo
Yeah, european countries have frustrated right wing rejects too, but they're taking care of them properly, im tellin ya that.
I dont know if 5.56 and sarc got together to push this nobody knew who Charlie kirk angle was, or if they just use it to justify cheering the murder.... but their angle is retarded.
Uhm, there's been so many shootings of school kids and other folks, other events like floyd, jan 6 and attempts to assassinate a potus candidate, and nothing happened. Of course this case isn't special in any way and won't make much a difference a week from now, let alone in the midterms, and it certainly wont trigger any revolutions. Im sorry if that hurts your vulnerable right wing feelings, but you will really have to accept that you dont matter.
And all of it is the fault of you democrats. Now it’s time for you to pay.
Canceling someone because they disagree with you ≠ canceling someone because they openly and vociferously celebrated the graphic assassination of a 31-year old father at a public event.
Great point, another type of person to cancel would be someone making light of the circumstances like Musk did with Paul Pelosi….oh wait, Musk suffered no consequences and got to work with the president. Oops.
Goddamn right we’re ’taking scalps’. The only way the left learns is when you turn their weapons on them. It’s time for murdering Marxist traitors to burn.
The next logical step is to designate antifa and related groups as terror organizations. Then go after their money people.
Yeah, that job stuff you guys are doing there, including to about 2 million feds earlier, i think people will probably remember that a little more than they will a right wing pundit when they go vote next year.
You seem like youre in your teens, very inexperienced and lots of emotion without much reasoning. So let me tell you now, things will make much more sense to you 10 years from now. Your brain is still maturing, give it a little time, you'll get there.
You seem like you’re a retarded kindergartner. And you thought you had things in the bag last year too.
How did that work out for you bitch?
Czech militias did much the same thing on a larger scale 31JULY1945. Who's been bawling about that lately? Freedom in that part of the world meant bullying girls, killing Jews and infiltrating the opposition for sabotage--same as "both" looter gangs today --except maybe hippies or furriners instead of Jews.
Wait, you think Biden wanted to help American natural gas companies by spiking the price??? You aren’t a deep thinker are you??
What was Crooks motive?
What was the Las Vegas shooters motive?
The Vegas shooter had serious ties to the Philippines which is a terrorist hotbed…but Trump successfully downplayed quite a few terrorist attacks like Manda Bay and Manbij because he had a compliant media. Crooks was a Republican but he targeted both Biden and Trump and because he was from Trump country the opportunity unfortunately presented itself.
President Trump had a compliant media? Hahahahahah! Hohohehehehe! Oh, that's funny!
Tell us another joke!
Not initially, but Fatass Donnie browbeat and sued the media Cohn style until they relented and gave him everything he wanted.
True to fascist form the government controls big media today. 60 Minutes even caved in. We need a Voice of America in the USA now.
To the degree the Media is "caving" into anything, it's that they are trying to figure out how to rebuild their ratings now that no one believes them due to all the lies.
It's not working, though, because it's really hard to build trust back up!
Also look how Big Media has suppressed the Trump Russia collusion stories.
Fatass had his minions meet with Kremlin officials all during 2016. Yet Fox News tells their greasy redneck base that Russian collusion was a hoax.
Now back down bitch. You’ve been owned. Buttplug style.
turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
Fuck off and die, asswipe. Even the toilet paper doesn't want you.
Now tell me how the Media is covering the release of FBI memos where President Obama ordered the CIA and FBI to ignore solid intel that showed there was no connection between President Trump and Russia, but to manufacture a connection anyway so they could use it to wiretap, infiltrate, and harass President Trump's campaign and administration.
Don't pretend this didn't happen, either: we now have the receipts.
Vulnerable, half-staffing right-wing crybabies are on their way out, while the rest of the world is laughing while pointing their fingers at their sinking ship. Delightful.
Sure, the Party that is taking the 80% position on every issue is going to be pushed out by the Party that takes the 20% position on every issue.
And for the record: 20% of the population celebrates someone getting killed over mere disagreements. 20% of the population thinks we should release felons on "no bail" despite a lengthy violent arrest record and obvious mental illness so they could brutally stab in the neck Ukrainian refugees returning home on the subway after a long day of work at the pizzeria.
Delightful, indeed!
Join us today for another episode of "using my rectum as my source of data", with epsilon given!
Uh huh. So you’ve got nothing, as usual Arty. Remember all the times I said things were going to get real fucking bad for you? Well guess what, we’re just bait there.
It is now a very bad time to be a Marxist traitor in America. So get ready for hell, you retarded pinko.
Lmao this isnt special and will be forgotten like all other events like school shootings, jan 6, g floyd, within a week. the news cycle is already cooling down. Im sorry your little right wing chode has a sad about that :((((
Don’t worry faggot. You traitors won’t stop. You will just keep digging.
It’s going to get real fucking bad for you.
You haven’t owned anybody in these comments in the nearly 20 years I’ve been posting here.
Hahahahahahahahaha
"Also look how Big Media has suppressed the Trump Russia collusion stories."
You mean the frauds that they continually pushed for almost a decade? The stories that were based on carefully curated intelligence reports that violated all normal procedure for such reports?
A proven hoax. Hillary, Barry and the gang.
A total hoax.
Anyone who believes otherwise is an idiot and a fool.
That’s hilarious. You’re notoriously stupid, and disrespected. You’re dull witted, and can’t even read your own links. So you often end up doing a self own.
Seriously, are you this delusional? Is it part of your pedophilia?
Maddow says that shit all the time. Starting to think 5.56 is sarc.
That account has been muted due to previous gaslighting and never posting anything of value ever prior to that. Could be sarc, pluggo, or perhaps hank.
It doesn't need to be any of the usual suspects, these are NPC's after all. They all draw from the same poisoned well.
Hank is far too incoherent to effectively sock puppet.
Where is D.B. Cooper?
Jack the Ripper?
Patel totally dropped the ball on that ripper thing.
How the Search for Charlie Kirk's Killer Went Off the Rails
It's an odd headline considering the main point of the article is that the plan to disrupt extremist networks won't work considering who the shooter is. There's almost nothing about the search itself so it's not clear what "off the rails" is supposed to mean other than fanciful hyperbole Reason would criticize if it came from a conservative.
Yeah I was a little baffled. The criticism from Rufo is that Patel hadn't done enough to somehow identify every leftist whack job out there, a strategy that Petti condemns, but somehow Patel went off the rails? In less than 2 days? Who is writing the headlines? Pathetic.
I like Rufo, but he is over his his skis here. He has not worked in any law-enforcement role that I know of.
This particular assassin had no prior history of violence and did not live in the area. To me, it’s pretty impressive that he was caught within 48 hours. And yes, the photos that were released to the public certainly played a part.
The pics I saw yesterday were pretty damn good. If he was my son there would be no question in my mind.
That’s what is so scary about Crooks and Mangione and this killer—they are good Republican young men but then with no warning they snap…it’s almost like two tragedies each time because they should have grown to be successful Republican men.
Will you and Sevo agree to a cagematch? Watching you two assholes beat on each other would be more entertaining than reading the stupid shit you post.
You and shrike are the exact same.
I don’t do cage matches anymore because I hurt my pinky toe.
Will you please fuck off and die? Please make the world a better place, and your family proud, asswipe (and the toilet paper is not happy to have you)
What's also weird is how all these good Republican men, when they "snap", always go after Republicans and not Democrats -- and there aren't any Democrats who "snap" and go after Republicans.
It's almost as if one Party celebrates political murder against the other, and the other Party does not.
All of that is false.
Is it really? Because I cannot unsee hundreds of thousands of Leftists who not only celebrated the murder of Charlie Kirk, but also started to ask "who should be next?".
Because all I see from Republicans are "thoughts and prayers", which are then mocked by the people who want to murder their political enemies for the "crime" of disagreeing with them.
Ok, I see my error. I should have said "where are all the Democrats who 'snap' and go after Democrats?"
There are a few, but they almost certainly didn't get radicalized in "Republican Discord Servers".
Giffords's shooter. Paul Pelosi's attacker. The guy who murdered those Minnesota politicians...
Yet the right was blamed despite evidence pointing to the contrary.
Yep. The DNC controlled media has got to go. Time to start prosecuting them for all their FEC violations.
The Paul Pelosi attacker and Minnesota attacker are right wing nuts. Crooks was like Robinson a mainstream Republican gun nut.
He was t republican. He belonged to multiple antifa discord groups for fucks sake.
To a certain extent I agree with you on this, but there's a certain "but he was from a solid Republican family and now he's killing people!" that annoys me.
Well, yeah, the assassin came from a Republican household -- but where did he spend all his time before he concluded that he should start shooting people? As you said, the answer is "Antifa Discord servers".
I should have made it clear in my first comment.
republicanism breeds violence. News at 11.
You’re probably linked to antifa. Which is about to be designated a terror organization. I’ll bet you have a lot to hide.
Negative, im just disaffected with conservatives.
Btw, the single biggest reason this will not cause any revolutions or major changes is that most people arent even as intensely online or political as the commenters here. This is all bullshit that doesnt concern most people. And the people making money from this system dont care for revolutions either. So no, nothings gonna happen.
epsilon given
"What's also weird is how all these good Republican men,.."
What's also weird is how the slimy piles of TDS-addled lying piles of shit expect anyone is going to buy their gas-lighting.
Fuck off and die asswipe.
Whatever. I'm not going to take any accusations of "gaslighting" seriously by those who have assured me that "Biden was as sharp as a tack".
Now that I have seen some of the other comments you've posted, I see that
(1) you likely weren't one of the "sharp as a tack" gaslighters,
(2) you probably misread my poorly-worded comment: I was trying to say that (a) all those "Republicans" who decide to become assassins go after Republicans after the become Democrats, and (b) for a Party that's allegedly fascists who want to kill everyone, there's a huge shortage of Democrats becoming Republicans who then shoot other Democrats.
I got what you were trying to say with your op, but the clarification helps!
Pretty sure epsilon was being facetious. His prose is a little challenging but I think you're both on the same side.
You'd think it took, you know, more than 36 hrs to find the guy.
The BS headline discredits the otherwise incoherent rant.
Police worked with the public to identify and capture a criminal. That sounds like exactly how we want it to work.
This is a stupid article. Every investigation is different and expecting police to magically produce an unknown suspect immediately is stupid.
This is correct.
Yes sad but true.
They do it on TV!
The G Men are invincible!
As a TDS-addled lying pile of shit, that's Petti's only source of info: cop dramas.
OT: started watching old Columbo episodes recently. Show holds up. Talk about face slapping some pompous a holes around. Falk was so damn good in that role.
That was Columbo's gift. He wasn't impressed by anyone. They were just another suspect, no matter how "important" they were.
Actually his gift was the ability to see & make connections others missed, along with a gift for inductive logic & reasoning. That's the way he was written.
His Character was that he treated everyone with respect. From the richest CEO to the homeless guy on the street. Never disrespects anyone. Addressed everyone as "sir" or "madame". Always logical, doesn't get angry. Something today's cops could take a lesson from, as well as the more potty mouthed commenters in this group.
Hey, it’s fun to beat up on subhuman garbage, like the drunken punk Sarc, or the slimy pedophile Shrike. Nearly every leftist commenter here is absolute filth, and is undeserving of civility or respect.
They get what they give.
Me me me me me meeeeeeeee!!!
Note to Petti: it needs to actually become history before you try to revise it. It’s barely been 48 hours since Kirk was shot, fool.
Exactly
Do not speak ill of governmental incompetence here at reason.com— a libertarian website.
Where is the government incompetence here, though? It seems as if the article is essentially complained that the other investigative efforts -- efforts that by their nature can take days or even weeks -- failed, because someone identifying who's in the photo identified the murderer first.
It's not as if it's perfectly normal to initiate several investigative branches at once, hoping that one will resolve itself faster than the others, but realizing that even the best investigations can take days or even weeks.
(Also, I suspect those other investigations are still ongoing -- yes, they arrested someone based on photos released to the public -- but it's still a good idea to collect as much evidence as possible, regardless.)
As a slimy pile of TDS-addled lying shit, you seem to have missed all those 'speaking ill' of the government, but as a slimy pile of TDS-addled lying shit, that's not surprising.
Fuck off and die, asswipe.
Faster than getting Luigi
There weren’t 200 witnesses to his crime.
New York city streets are famous for being empty. I believe they call it the city that always sleeps.
The guy’s father turned him in…Kash Patel would never have caught him without his father turning him in.
I'd like to see proof of that -- because it's not at all hard to me to see how a search that would have been successful but take two or three weeks would otherwise be a failure because it was short-circuited by a family who turned in the murderer.
In fact, I would go so far as to suggest that releasing the photos and asking the public for tips is standard procedure -- so this was without question a successful investigation, regardless how you try to spin it otherwise.
Remembering someone claiming that the Boston bombers would never be caught as a result of the published vids. Wrong.
Think about your 4 or 5 best friends; you can spot them a half a block away; their 'gait' is 'individual', as is the posture in walking, and the hair/hat, clothes, and so forth: There's Steve!
This guy was going to be ID'd within a couple of days, regardless. The fact that Dad said 'you own it, kid' only speeded it up by hours.
BTW, while the parents are to be thanked, it also makes me wonder what sort of parenting he got.
Oh that’s Lamar, he’s got a really tight ass!
S B-F, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
I'm not quite willing to criticize how parents raise their children -- I'm still raising four, and while I am doing my best, I'm not sure if my best is good enough -- and besides, once the kids are grown, they are free to choose their own paths, regardless of the parenting they received.
But to further complicate matters, we live in a society where so much of our "schooling" is poisoning our children's minds, pushing them to hate their families, their freedoms, and the very society that has made so much prosperity possible.
republican parents either have violent children or severely liberal ones. There is a certain kind of beauty in how the mind viruses take care of themselves.
Assertion from lying slimy pile of TDS-addled lying lefty shit.
Fuck off and die, shitstain.
Virtually all violent children come from fatherless homes headed by women who either don't vote or vote Democrat.
Assertion from lying slimy pile of TDS-addled lying lefty shit.
Fuck off and die, asswipe.
Speaking of which, how was HE caught?
LOL
Without those tips, it's hard to know how long the manhunt would have gone on for. The night before, authorities had signaled that they were completely stumped. Officials pleaded with the public for information based on a few grainy surveillance stills on Thursday night, and Utah Public Safety Commissioner Beau Mason told NBC News that authorities had "no idea" where the shooter was.
You know, I was actually impressed with the enhanced pictures of the dude they released to the public. And any libertarian should be kind of heartened (and stay your emotions here, because I don't mean this in the obvious, wrong way) that our surveillance state isn't so pervasive that we didn't catch on a minority-report-style retina scan when he walked into a GAP store...
Also, I don't know who said it, it might have been a commenter here, it might have been someone on Youtube, but when officials released those stills of the suspect, someone pointed out that they were good enough that the family was probably already hiring lawyers and preparing to turn him in.
So from that perspective, it feels like the system worked pretty well. Saying that "everything failed" because it only took them 24 hours to catch him seems like a nitpick-for-the-sake-of-nitpicking.
You also take the risk of undermining your argument: Whoa, our surveillance state is scary and Orwellian-- and works so badly it can't identify anyone or find them!!!11!
I'm reminded of the old Jewish lady joke:
Woman 1: The food here is terrible...
Woman 2: Yeah, and such small portions!
Yeah okay I laughed at the old Jewish ladies. But not in an antisemitic way.
The lesson seems to be, wear a mask and shut up.
Although this article was all over the map, I read it as criticism of the opportunistic political attack on Patel and the FBI so soon after the likely suspect was actually apprehended. There was also criticism of the "more intrusive state" political narrative from Kirk's fellow "conservatives." On the other hand, releasing a photo and the personal details of an innocent "witness" to the public does seem like a mistake made by the FBI that did actual harm to an actual innocent person. This is more about the regular and frequent assertions that "the public" has "a right to know" which, I believe, is false in this context. The public may have a right to an accounting after the emergency is over, but nowhere in the Constitution or in libertarian theory does it say everyone has a right to know everything, everywhere, all at once.
Keyboard investigators/warriors have unrealistic expectations of magical law enforement officers with superpowers.
Law enforcement always relies on tips.
Contrary to the paranoia mob, there aren't that many police out there watching your every move and filming everything that you do.
Only after the fact can they effectively gather clues, and one of the biggest source of clues is asking people whether they saw someone who looks like the suspect. And gee, it's often a family member who recognizes them first and comes forward.
Contrary to the paranoia mob, there aren't that many police out there watching your every move and filming everything that you do.
And the flagship libertarian magazine is disappointed they aren't.
Again, I read this article differently, the silly title notwithstanding. Although it cited one or two mistakes by the FBI, most of the commentary in the article was criticizing the calls for a more intrusive surveillance state. We don't nee more undercover government agent informers ratting each other out in amateur militias or racking up "no-knock" raids on innocent citizens. Most of us used to believe in the "power corrupts - absolute power corrupts absolutely" principle.
Yes, because Patel's predecessor was able to narrow in on the DC bomber . . . oh wait, that's still 'unknown' years later.
That's back when adults were in the room.
What do you expect when you exchange competence for loyalty & obsequiousness ? This isn't the first Patel gaffe and it won't be the last.
I am sure you would have done a much better job, anon.
The moron would have had the shooter day one by screaming then indicting trump.
Better than releasing the name of the first person you grab off the street before knowing if he's your guy yet ?
Yes ... by simply not naming the first guy you grab off the street. Do some investigating first before trying to please the screaming mob by attempting to look like you know what you're doing and failing miserably.
That was the media retard.
Kinda seems like you personify the traits listed.
What do you expect in a post from a lying pile of TDS-addled lefty shit?
Well, we just got it.
Fuck off and die, asswipe.
I bet that DC bomber on 1/5/21 has been found...oh wait.
You end up with 'no reasonable prosecutor would bring such a case'.
Oh, wait, that was Saint James Comey.
Patel is head of the FBI, who is inherently untrustworthy. I wonder if you noticed that while Hillary Clinton was getting a free pass for not only flagrantly defying FOIA but also releasing classified information in a way that would land you or I in prison for decades.
Yep, Obama’s 3 biggest mistakes were keeping or appointing the Bush Republicans Comey and Bernanke and Gates.
"Robinson's father, a longtime sheriff's deputy, reportedly recognized his son from the photos and told him to turn himself in."
Per the Washington County Sheriff's office, the suspect's father is NOT one of their officers:
https://news.washeriff.net/relationship-between-charlie-kirk-shooting-suspect-and-retired-washington-county-deputy/
It's a good thing we have crack detectives like Reason on the job!
This is why I tend / try to not make any definitive statements in the very early part of any major news story. But if you're in the media, I suppose that's less of an option than it is for someone like me.
Yeah came to post that as well the Dad was a construction business owner of some sort and the Sheriff part was not true.
The whole article is
1. Blaming the FBI because internet randos went nuts.
2. Blaming the FBI for not figuring everything out in less than 48 hours.
Blaming the FBI for smearing a citizen first and investigating second.
Who got smeared by the FBI? Are you a complete imbecile?
2022: FBI IS EVIL AND MUST BE ABOLISHED!!!
2025: Stop picking on the FBI! They’re doing their best!!
"But this time it's our guy in charge!!"
Retards gonna retard.
You dumbfucks cant help but look like dumbfucks.
It’s because they’re dumbfucks.
You can think the FBI should be shuttered and still think that 48 hours to catch an alleged assassin is not “going off the rails” or complete incompetence.
Sarc is a drunk. You’re asking too much of his pickled brain.
By the way, a retarded headline I read today was that the FBI was 'hollowed out' by Patel-- hopefully because he's fired all the political hacks that live in DC as he promised he would.
Does it seem like every Reason editor has been instructed to phone in an article about the Kirk assassination no matter how specious and silly it may be? Because I feel like every Reason editor has been instructed to phone in an article about the Kirk assassination no matter how specious and silly it may be.
Hey now. They put Mr red wedding on a podcast instead.
I would love to see someone on his podcast corner him on his ‘red wedding’ shit.
GG, coming here and expecting libertarian is like going to KFC wanting a juicy sirloin burger.
I mostly come here for the libertarian reaction to the Reason "libertarian" vomit they put out -- although every once in a while Reason surprises me with a sincerely libertarian take.
Even a blind squirrel can find an occasional nut, I guess!
"Even a blind squirrel can find an occasional nut, I guess!"
At the time (early '70s), Reason was a pulp-published issue from Santa Barbara; cannot remember how I found it but have issues from that time which promoted actual libertarianism (not LIBERTARIANISM, TDS addled Brandyshit!).
Donated money for the new (LA office); worst mistake I've made here; it's been down hill since then.
Fuck you, Welsh, Sullum, Boehm and the lot of you! You slimy piles of lefty shit have turned what once was a libertarian publication into your invitations to deep-state cocktail parties.
Fuck each and every one of you with a barb-wire-wrapped broom stick for turning what was once a beacon of libertarian thought into the deep-state supporting shit pile it has become.
I hope every one of you slimy piles of shit understands what you've done and has the decency to be embarrassed.
But I doubt that's the case; enjoy your $5 annual contributions, asswipes!
BTW, I'm sure Postrel despises my language, but if she's honest, she should also despise the slimy piles of lefty shit you have become.
Learn to be embarrassed, asswipes; you need it
I wouldn't recommend the barbed wire approach but overall I agree with the sentiment.
Do not invoke the shit-eating squirrel, lest your nut be the next one he finds.
He’s like Candyman!
Candyman
Candyman
Candyma….psyche!!!
Except Tony Todd was delightful. Not like SQRLSY.
Two days? Hah! The FBI has far worse things on their record. Just how many days was the Olympic Park bomber on the run while the FBI pursued Richard Jewel?
You could add 'Russian Collusion' and be perfectly safe.
I was working within the “non-fiction” section, I think. Maybe. Hmm…
They are still looking for Jimmy Hoffa.
Right?
Most of the Jimmy Hoffa theories are far too complicated, like the one claiming they carried a dead body from Michigan to New Jersey. Most likely they stuffed him in the trunk of the next car to be crushed and remelted. Or he was buried somewhere in the woods.
What is special about the Hoffa case is that nobody talked, ever. Did some gangsters and union thugs die soon afterwards?
Maybe they kept the circle small enough.
What a silly article. An investigation two days old barely has time to get ON the rails, let alone get off it. It has barely gone beyond the collection of evidence, and with next to no time for analysis.
The authorities were able to generate a photograph, and have the probable perpetrator in custody in 48 hours. That's awfully good work. We are getting spoiled.
Oh yeah. Reason writers watch dateline. Do you?
We can't read The Bulwark and the NYT and Inglesias and WAPO and watch Dateline. There are not enough hours in the day. I know Reason editors manage it because these outlets are a fountain of libertarian wisdom. But they get paid to keep libertarians abreast of libertarian shit. I'm working for free here.
Pretty sure it's closer to 24 hours.
Of course, chaos and mistakes are an unavoidable part of crises.
Just goes to show, other then condolences, everyone - including the 8ish articles printed on Reason - should just be quiet for a few days at least to contemplate their opinion.
Moar Keystone Kops. This is what happens when you fire any and all Federal employees who are competent.
USAID would have apprehended the shooter quicker? NPR staff?
Even a cursory glance at the history of federal employees reveals little competence and a closer look at the FBI reveals almost none.
Retarded when the other retards first said this.
They found the guy. Wray could not find the guy laying pipe bombs at RNC and DNC over 4 years ago.
Didnt want to find*
Fair call.
Don't get how finding a shooter within 36 hrs was "going off the rails." Reason did not find the investigation into, say, the Boston Marathon bombing went off the rails in spite of it taking longer.
Reason editors are mostly progressives with one or two pet libertine issues and have marching orders to rail against orangemanbad. Their periodical loses money and exists due to a billionaire subsidizing them. Essentially the Stephen Colbert of print. Expecting them to “libertarian” current events is signing oneself up for disappointment.
This is a desperate Democrat talking point and no surprise that Reason is regurgitating it. Saw an AP "news" article making the same case this morning. It's purported that MAGA is pissed off at Patel and the Democrats are trying to exploit that. It's all pretty transparent and they'll have a new talking point by Monday.
I would like to subject Wray to enhanced interrogation for a few weeks to see wha it can get out of him. Also, it would be cathartic.
Comey would have brought him in in 30 hours
Same they fired that one, competent guy.
"...This is what happens when you fire any and all Federal employees who are competent...."
This is the LIBERTARIAN TDS-addled shit-pile.
Of all the retarded takes. This is one of them.
Desi oughtta know...
Fuck off you senile red diaper baby.
"Those turned out to be a mix of references to the video game Helldivers 2 (which features killing fascists) and lewd jokes."
No it doesn't. Why do you people write articles about games you don't even play?
You kill bugs (Terminids), robots (Automatons) and aliens (Illuminate). None of these factions are fascist or even capable of communicating with humans. The setting is often compared to Starship Troopers (the movie, not the novel). The Super Earth government is incredibly fascistic. You ARE the fascists in game. The game satirizes authoritarianism at times, (ex. needing a permit to have sex) but this is all background for the setting and not the primary gameplay loop.
The direction arrow pattern is the in-game input for the Eagle 500kg bomb strategem. It's ironic, depending on how you want to read into it. It's often used for taking out the biggest enemies in game, but it's also grossly overrated and inconsistent. Makes a big boom, but doesn't necessarily do what you intended. Read into that as you will.
All it really shows is that gaming is mainstream. Gaming is accessible enough that even psychos play games.
This is why I only skimmed the article, because I find when I actually read them, they're worse than I thought.
"Those turned out to be a mix of references to the video game Helldivers 2 (which features killing fascists) and lewd jokes."
If anything, you, the Helldiver (player) are fighting for a quasi-fascistic society. (very much a parody of the world of Starship Troopers). And yeah, you're killing giant insects, automatons and some X-Com style aliens that are possibly loosely modeled on War of the Worlds.
*Managed* democracy
Which political party do we know of that would find the phrase 'managed democracy' attractive, one wonders.
Honestly? Both.
Pre-MAGA GOP was fine being 'the loyal opposition'. 'Conserving' the gains made by the Progressives.
Democrats ran on the concept of managed democracy this past Presidential election, right down to appointing the candidate outside of their own primary system.
That was pretty unusual, but somehow all the Democrats fell right into line behind Harris despite her being in favor of little things like taxing unrealized capital gains. If Democrats were able to swallow those things, I think they might be too far gone.
Why is federal law enforcement involved? Political assassinations are at a 30 year low!!!! Locals can handle this unless you are fascist who wants armed government goons on the street.
This is the easiest way to monetize this. Politics are very lucrative to corporaticians. Votes convert to influence converts to dollars for corporaticians.
Revolution is, of course, not on the table. And neither is continued republican political representation.
5:56:
Lefty shits lie, but 5.56 ignores it to push the narrative!
5.56 hopes the Ds can find someone who isn't totally toxic to the US voters!
S/he is a imbecilic piece of lefty shit, isn't s/he?
Does your net worth warrant reading that comment of yours?
5.56 is an imbecilic piece of lefty shit, isn't s/he?
Is it a furry?? The furries are killing this country from within!! I am starting the Antifurry League of Patriots to eliminate this threat to our great nation! Please join ALOP and let’s peacefully eradicate this cancer spreading from within!! Maybe we can stop Amazon from selling furry costumes?? No costumes then no furries!! No furries then no political violence!!
We all probably have net worths higher than you.
The guy was going to be caught 100%. He should have killed himself. Now he'll sit in prison for 30 years then be executed.
I honestly do not understand this apparent outpouring of grief over Charlie Kirk. Yes it is sad that he died. No he shouldn't have been murdered. But he was a political operative. He debated college kids as a performative stunt. His motives were obviously to get people to support his team. But from the reaction of some you'd think he was a Mother Theresa figure. I really don't get it.
As a libertarian the only thing I appreciated him for was his defense of capitalism and his ability to infuriate the left. The rest was far right Christian conservativism.
"As a libertarian the only thing I appreciated him for was his defense of capitalism and his ability to infuriate the left. The rest was far right Christian conservativism."
As an atheist, none of that bothered me; why did it bother you?
Not to put too fine a point on this, but what Kirk espoused was more or less generally regarded as normal just a few decades ago. Calling it extremist today is...not terribly accurate unless you are the sort that thinks cutting genitals off children is the center of the Overton window.
Which, if we're honest, is largely the group of people calling him an extremist.
Frankly, the reason so many people on the left are mad at him is because they couldn't out debate him. It's also one of the reasons they resort to violence. The only thing shocking about this, beyond the obvious cold blooded murder, is that it wasn't Ben Shapiro that was shot.
I really don't get it.
It’s because you aren’t very bright.
I honestly do not understand
We know. Applied universally even.
Really, this is your hot take? "His motives were obviously to get people to support his team." Isn't that called "persuasion"? Isn't that what all of us are trying to do?
Well, I suppose you might be the exception: you might sincerely believe you need to get people to oppose your team. That would be consistent with the posts you put up.
But for Charlie Kirk, maybe they are shocked because
(1) all Charlie Kirk did was try to persuade people -- who cares if it was a "performative stunt"? If only more "performative stunts" like this were performed, from both sides!
(2) there are a lot of Leftists who are outright celebrating the murder of someone for holding dissenting views, and the remainder who don't celebrate, all prefix their "condolences" with "he's a bad dude" before saying "but he didn't deserve to be murdered" -- and everyone who believes even just one or two of these things, and rightly conclude "all these people hate me, and many would celebrate my death too".
(3) many of the people who are saddened by his death actually knew him and considered him a friend (yes, I know that this is a foreign concept to us commenters on Reason, but some people actually do have these things called "friends" -- and yes, I'm still personally researching this concept to find out more), and many more saw him and thought he was a genuine nice guy who opened their minds to consider the possibility that there are opinions outside of Leftist groupthink.
(4) you don't have to grieve over Charlie Kirk to be outright angry that there is a Political Party that thinks murdering people because of disagreement is justified and even something to be celebrated. Last I checked, this is something that particularly angers libertarians.
So, yeah. I suppose you can't understand this. Among other things, you are not the "radical individualist" you claim to be.
His motives were obviously to get people to support his team.
Gee, you obtuse fat fuck, a Trump supporter gets killed debating "ideas," which you disingenuous shitheads on the anti-rightist team claimed was your real complaint about Trumpers, and your complaint about him is that he showed up at their seminaries to persuade people about his ideas?
Way to fucking tell on yourself there.
Maybe we should ask “conservative commentator” Robby Soave why this murder is so alarming and why so many here would be discussing it so passionately.
Just so it’s clear: I put that in quotes because that’s how other journalists referred to Robby when discussing his divorce/coming out/engagement. Robby who considers himself a libertarian and who routinely gets called out for pushing leftist narratives (rightly or wrongly). Because to leftist, we’re all right-wing conservatives.
And for at least the last 10 years (really closer to 25) they have maligned everyone to the right of them as Nazi’s and fascists. AND they have been declaring publicly that whole time that it is perfectly acceptable to punch Nazi’s.
Maybe it’s the unhinged glee so many people are showing for this murder?
Maybe it’s because whether you agreed with him or not on any particular issue, he was doing things the way a real libertarian would want them to be done: open dialogue in the marketplace of ideas.
If the Democrat solution to what they perceive as fascism is to double down and become even more fascist than their opponents, how can we take them seriously?
It isn't Republicans calling for fascism, the call is coming from within the Democrats own ranks. They don't notice, of course, because they apparently have no idea what those words mean.
"...They don't notice, of course, because they apparently have no idea what those words mean..."
They hope the words to inflame slimy piles of lefty shit as we see here.
I'd hope that ignorant piles of TDS addled shit might seek treatment and recover, but as evidenced here the slimy piles of TDS-addled shits have yet to understand that they are slimy piles of TDS-addled shits.
Fuck the lot of them with a barb-wire- wrapped broom stick; the shit bags deserve nothing other.
The obvious thing is how much alike both looter gangs really are.
“He debated college kids as a performative stunt.”
I’m not particularly familiar with Charlie Kirk, but maybe he adopted his “performative stunt” style from watching congressional hearings on CSPAN as a youngster.
He engaged in the practice of free speech and invited the other side to meet him and debate. He was killed because he peacefully exercised the first amendment.
Perhaps you should consider why people are really upset about that.
And the assassination did not come out of an organized political network.
Gunna call BS on that. The organized political network is the mainstream media, Democrat politicians, academia, the professional activists, and left-wing social media.
Including this website right here, Reason dot com.
Collectively, they run a 24/7/365 repeated message that equates normal, average, everyday Americans to Nazis and fascists; calls everyone they support or take inspiration from to a Hitler that needs to be stopped; and treats their every word and deed like it's an existential threat to freedom, democracy, and peace. And they're told, over and over and over, that combatting it - combatting them - will make everything better, will make them heroes even. Anyone who disagrees even slightly is either A) your mortal enemy and/or B) sub-human, and you are therefore morally justified in killing them.
The mindset of every tyrant since the dawn of time.
You cannot feed people - especially young and impressionable people - a diet of that and then feign shock and surprise through a thinly veiled smirk after, having been thoroughly radicalized, he picks up a rifle and shoots the world's most prolific Civil Rights Leader in the neck. The assassination absolutely came out of an organized political network, and this was always its intent.
I still think this tweet says it all: https://x.com/Black_Pilled/status/1965880897548485042
Don't pretend that it's ANYONE other than the left that's serving that poison. Because it sure as heck wasn't the Republican family who turned him in that taught him it. It sure as heck wasn't the LEOs that his dad worked with that taught him it. It sure as heck wasn't the church he was raised in that taught him it. And it definitely wasn't Charlie Kirk himself, who did nothing but teach the exact opposite.
It was the highly organized and constant feed of Leftist political hatred whipping reactionary and thoroughly indoctrinated people into a frenzy. And now that one of them has done something unspeakably horrific, it's "circle the wagons" coming from each and every one of them. Blame the victim ("the shooting was justified!"), blame his supporters ("why don't they dial back their rhetoric!"), blame the tools ("this is what gun freedom gets gun supporters!"), misinform ("he came from a Conservative Christian family of cops, also check out this Trump shirt we photoshopped onto him!"), play the victim ("do trans people and leaders on the left need to be worried about retaliation?!"), and of course outright mockery ("thoughts and prayers, lol!").
That doesn't come from the right.
That comes from the organized political left.
I pray every day for peace and unity in what's intended to be a United States whose motto is E Pluribus Unum. I'm not saying we all have to like each other and get along, but we do have to learn how to coexist and rationally, respectfully disagree with open discourse and a willingness to listen and possibly even change.
After this week, I am now 100% certain that such a peace and unity cannot include anyone belonging to or supporting this organized political network, the American Left, that openly hates us, wants us dead, and celebrates when it happens. They don't want to coexist, they don't want to disagree, and they are incapable of rationality.
The Rubicon has been crossed. I genuinely do not believe the Left understands the depths of the hole - the grave - they've dug themselves when they collectively decided to assassinate Charlie Kirk. They didn't just make him a martyr and rally millions to his cause. They made the rift between Right and Left crystal clear: while the Right wants the Left to calm down and be reasonable and try to work together, the Left just wants the Right straight-up dead. And it's what they've always wanted.
But, But, BUT January 6th!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I've read nonstop posts and essays on the Kirk killing: you have by far stated the truth of the sad reality that brought this to tragedy on. Disaffected, celibate, internet addicted kids from every spectrum politically get sucked into the romantic and exhilarating fantasy of believing they are the 1944 French or Italian Resistance fighting Nazi's.
I've mostly ignored them, and can't recite the current suspect's name. But I have grown accustomed to decade after decade of force-initiating looters screeching when deadly force actually connects with some brainwashee from "their" gang of mystical altruists.
The apostrophe is used for the possessive, not the plural form of christian nationalsocialist. Check with the Word Police.
Problem with your argument is that MAGAs and Trump actually are fascists. It is not rhetoric, it is pointing out reality.
Make me a list of all the "fascist" things President Trump has done that Democrat Presidents haven't done, and maybe I'll take the notion somewhat seriously.
But meanwhile, what is it that makes fascists so evil? They kill their enemies because their enemies disagree with them.
Now, consider this carefully, and answer truthfully:
(1) Which political Party is celebrating the murder of someone because that person disagreed with them, and tried to convince others to join in on his beliefs?
(2) Which political Party is arguing over who the next target of assassination is going to be?
(3) What is the ratio of Democrats killing people over disagreements over Republicans doing so? And how many mainstream Republicans are there who, when this happens, is celebrating the death, and asking who should be next?
Now, after you truthfully answer these questions, I want you to truthfully answer this last one: who is it here that is actually the fascist Party?
The 1972 Libertarian Party was the first non-fascist party since 1930. The others it is hard to tell apart as they constantly rage at each other for "not really" being altruist or superstitious.
You don't even know what the word "fascist" means. Literally, I'll bet you cannot even define it. Not without running to Bluesky or ChatGPT first.
To you - to everyone like you - it's nothing more than a fancy $3 word for "BAD ME NO LIKEY" that you mindlessly hurl at people you've been programmed to hate. And that's the worst part - you don't even know WHY you hate them. Just that you have to. For "democracy" or something. Which is also a term you can't define.
Lenin, much as you seem to revere him, had a term for people like you. It was not flattering.
^+1.
God I wish people would stop invoking fascism. Nobody knows what it means anymore.
Not true. Those of us who have educated ourselves know full well what it means. The lefty lying pile of shit MG has no idea. S/he is properly ignored as the ignoramus s/he is.
Fuck off and die, MG.
Every fascist is a Christian National Socialist, and vice-versa. A is A doesn't get much simpler... The NSDAP 25-point program is a blueprint for political power by exploiting superstitious redneck altruism. Harry Anslinger was a prime mover in helping elect Adolf Hitler. Look it up...
Every fascist is a Christian National Socialist, and vice-versa.
Should they be killed?
And you do not know what the hell "fascist" means.
At no time has America been under such "fascism" than under the Obiden administration, with forced lockdowns, forced vaccinations, forced school closing, forced masking( another stupid idea), and forcing tens of thousands of small businesses to close which cost tens of thousands of jobs.
Not to mention forcing people to believe men can become women and women can become men.
Forcing taxpayers to pay for transgender surgeries.
Then the riots ( 2 years) over a drug addicted career criminal which destroyed $2 billion in private and government property, murdered dozens and injured thousands while police hands were tied by Marxist mayors.
People like yourself are only following Saul Alinsky's Rules For Radicals: Blame your opponents for that which you are doing.
"Problem with your argument is that MAGAs and Trump actually are fascists. It is not rhetoric, it is pointing out reality."
Murdering somebody for saying things is about as fascistic as it gets.
The only time looter kleptocracy parties speak truly is when speaking against one another. It's kinda like jackals fighting over a carcass...
As someone who generally disagrees with you most of the time, I can't find anything to argue against in this post. Spot on.
That's quite a pile of confiscated meth lecturing Nolan chartists about crossing the monofilament, dimensionless, horizontal line of unspecified length.
Who should we murder and why?
Lots of conspiracy theories on Facebook. Hand signs by the security guards. Shooter is one of Trump’s security team, etc.
And then they start to get really insane.
Ilan Omar makes the insane look positively sane.
Human trash.
Ok, this is so absurd, it's outright sickening the way it is being portrayed.
Do you know why this "elderdy gladfly" was blamed by the crowd for the shooting? Because the moment Charlie Kirk was shot, he stood up and yelled "I shot him, I shot him!" The FBI would have been stupid and incompetent if they hadn't arrested the guy.
Furthermore, you're seriously blaming the FBI for what random internet sleuths did? For crying out loud, what was law enforcement supposed to do? Keep all of us in the dark, perhaps even up to the point "we have apprehended a suspect, there's no need to worry, he's been summarily executed, and out of respect for everyone involved, we aren't going to release his name or release any evidence that has brought us up to that point".
I cannot defend the other arrests, because I don't know what it was that drew them to the attention of the investigators -- however, I would add that there were hundreds of people there, the situation generated a lot of chaos, and we're still less than 72 hours in the investigation.
I don't reflexively defend the FBI, particularly because they often don't deserve defense, but I cannot help but feel your complaints about the FBI here in this case are disingenuous at best.
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This is the Reason editorial staff's effort to make sure the cocktail party list is full next week.
Readers will observe the use of the passive voice in "the way it is being portrayed"...
This crime was apparently solved in record time. The FBI, UT LEOs, etc waded through thousands of tips and hours of video, followed him by video long enough to get a couple good pictures of him, put them out, with a $100k reward, and apparently caught the guy in under 48 hours.
To Petti - what more would you have done, than what the FBI and UT authorities did do, that would have solved this crime more quickly?
Oh, and his motives? While there is no indication yet of membership, he apparently spent much of his time on AntiFA associated web sites. According to his schoolmates, he was an out-and-proud leftist. The only non-Republican in a family of strong Republicans. With a father who immediately turned him in, because it was the right thing to do.
For TDS-addled slimy piles of shit like Petti, that's not enough!!!!!!!!!!
The only ones going off the rails is the leftist MSM....along with Ilan Omar, AOC and the rest of the Demoncrat gang.
Matt Dowd (MSNBC) is now unemployed after he opened his big fat stupid pie hole concerning the murder of Charlie Kirk.
Now do the rest of MSNBC as well. Then CNN , The View, NPR, N.Y. Time, The Jeff Bezos Post.....
The left/Democrat party, is off the rails anyway.
Dowd is typical Bush Republican employed by MSGOPe.
They caught him in 30 hours using security cam footage.
For TDS-addled slimy piles of shit like Petti, that's not quick enough!!!!!!!!!!
The Search for Cocktail Party Cred and Better Leftstream Job Opportunities: How Reason Magazine Went Off the Rails
Patel has clearly destroyed the FBI.
Had Charlie Kirk's shooter had a higher IQ, he would have made it to Canada or Mexico before the FBI had any idea who he was. And he would not have been extradited because he is going to face the death penalty in the US. Both countries have abolished the death penalty and neither will extradite someone who would face a possible death penalty.
charliehall might have one brain cell, but that is in dispute.
Fuck off and die, asswipe.
Patel has clearly destroyed the FBI.
If only this were true.
It's funny how much Dems have come to love the institutions they once wished to eradicate.
I love how catching a guy in less than 3 days is ineptitude --- but not finding the dude leaving pipe bombs at the RNC and DNC in DC after 5 years is, apparently, perfectly competent.
Or how that baggie of Coke made its way into the White House.
Or how millions of dead managed to cast their vote for Biden.
His shooter scored high on ACT and was known for his academic performance.
Knowledge is not the same thing as wisdom, which is why the left's gloating over "college educated" status is laughable.
Talk about blunders, the left is crawling all over itself in idiotic attempts to steer away the fact that the killer had a trans girlfriend and engraved his bullets with trans ideology.
Then of course the leftists continued to blunder celebrating Chrlie Kirk's murder by getting them selves fired or losing businesses such as this leftist moron did:
https://slaynews.com/news/ohio-restaurant-doomed-owner-celebrated-charlie-kirk-murder-good-riddance/
As the left and the leftist news media continue to attempt to spin this assassination as anything other than some trans extremist ideology is comical and absurd.
The more the leftists attempt to control the narrative the more they fail.
First, Patel pushes to release photos of suspect very early on... Then, the release of those photos leads to suspect being apprehended in a matter of hours.
Thus proving that the search went off the rails?
If this is how bad the writing at Reason has gotten, I clearly haven't been missing anything...
Then again, you won't be missed either...
Everything in this hit piece is a lie or a distortion of facts and reality.
why is it even the lead on my landing page? its 2 days old! no follow up article on the nature of the killer and his motives?
The surveillance state works, dude. How do you think China tracked down unvaccinated people who tried to buy cough medicine. We don't want one because we don't want the government to have that kind of power.
They caught the guy in three days. They caught the Minnesota shooter within in a week. The 4chan sleuths identified a bunch of wrong guys who had nothing to do with the murder.
The guy’s father turned him in…Kash would never have caught him because he was a MAGA Republican in MAGA country with no criminal record.
So? Who else would snitch him off to the Gestapo? James Larratt Battersby? Looters of slightly different persuasions honing their mutual initiation of force techniques is a media spectator sport it's best not to participate in.
It’s those goddamned furries again!! The furries are a cancer on this country metastasizing and spreading all over and killing us from the inside!! I hope Trump comes up with a plan to stop the furries!!! And I’m not shutting up until the furry threat is eradicated (without violence of course)!!!
Blunders? It took 36 hours.
Here's the latest blunder: Jimmy Kimmel has just lost his job after making swine remarks about Kirk's murder. His show which was nothing more than an infomercial, has been canceled indefinitely.
Now waiting for John Liebowitz Stewart to open his mouth and for Colbert to add to the stupidity which he usually does.