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Epstein's Birthday Book

Plus: Zoomer values, leftist naivete, prayer outlawed in parts of Australia, and more...

Liz Wolfe | 9.9.2025 9:30 AM

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Rep. Jared Moskowitz (D-Fla.) holds up a photo of Donald Trump with Jeffrey Epstein | Rod Lamkey/CNP/Sipa USA/Newscom
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The drawing that definitely doesn't exist appears to exist: For Jeffrey Epstein's 50th birthday, famous figures wrote him naughty poems and drew him dirty pictures; the House Oversight Committee released the book yesterday after it subpoenaed Epstein's estate.

It features, as you might expect, a cartoon of Epstein lounging in a beach chair getting a massage from four topless women; drawings of zebras and lions humping; a poem commenting with surprise that, at age 50, Epstein "has avoided the penitentiary"; another alluding to when he discovered the "Maxwell teen-age daughter" in the '70s (referring to Ghislaine Maxwell); one submission by Bill Clinton lauding Epstein's "childlike curiosity"; and another about pulling down a woman's pants to grope her and discovering some other man's hand already there.

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"Most notably, the book contains the now well-publicized poem to Mr. Epstein that bears Donald J. Trump's name," reports The New York Times. "It is framed by a silhouette drawing of naked women and includes what appears to be Mr. Trump's signature. Elsewhere there is an oversized check that purports to be Mr. Epstein jokingly selling a 'fully depreciated' woman to Mr. Trump for $22,500." Trump has in recent months denied the existence of such an image and instructed his press secretary to do the same; now the image (including the "Donald" signature in the place of pubic hair) is widely available, and has been analyzed by The Wall Street Journal, compared with other letters Trump sent from around that same time (2003).

For what it's worth, I don't think any of this is airtight evidence that Trump and Co. knew the extent of Epstein's purported crimes, or the specific involvement of underage girls; but it does seem likely that all his buddies knew he was a lecherous mofo and found it pretty funny, which is not a good look if you're the sitting president of the United States of America. (Then again, nobody really voted for Trump due to his upstanding morals; the vulgarity—aesthetic and moral and everything in between—was always baked in. A feature for some voters, more than a bug.)


Checking in on the Zoomers:

Our NBC News Decision Desk poll asked Gen Z adults (18-29 years old) what they consider important to a successful life. The combination of gender and politics produced two very different sets of priorities: pic.twitter.com/xvm0t4IKaT

— Steve Kornacki (@SteveKornacki) September 8, 2025

"This data is really interesting," writes venture capitalist Katherine Boyle on X, "because it shows that marriage is not viewed as very high status or must-have among Gen Z women, even among Trump-voters. It's clear Harris-supporting women do not prioritize children. Trump-supporting women want them, but not at the expense of their financial independence because the husband is less important, crucial or likely to be in the picture. Children and marriage are becoming high status and aspirational for men and less so for women, even on the right. Sadly it shows the earnings and employment decline of men over the last 30 years, and that women planning for a family expect financial independence to be a core ingredient to having kids, no matter their political affiliation."

The findings most striking to me were that Harris-voting women rank "having emotional stability" as their third-highest priority, which seems like an outgrowth of therapy culture (and something that becomes totally wrecked when one is pregnant/has young children, in my experience); "having enough money to do the things you want" and "achieving financial independence"—sort of two ways to say the same thing—rank extremely highly for both types of voters and both genders; "having children" ranks really low on the list for both male and female Harris voters; "owning your own home" ranks really high on the list for both male and female Trump voters. There are two cultural scripts that appear to have led to defeatism for the younger generation: 1) That children are rather expensive, and that financial security is a really important prerequisite to having them; and 2) that owning your own home is the pathway to great stability and wealth-building. Both ideas contain grains of truth (your experience of parenthood will be harder and worse if you're destitute; accruing equity and not being subject to the whims of anyone else can allow you to live in one place for longer, to improve it over time, etc.) but are overstated. Children don't need to be as expensive as upper-middle-class parents make them; home-ownership isn't the only way to steadily build wealth over time.


Scenes from New York: From the piece excerpted below, these chunks on Zohran Mamdani stand out.

Everything @micsolana writes here is true: The socialists are lying, and trying to get respectable cover for their terrible ideas.

"At least Zohran is good on housing" -- No, he's not. Seriously, don't fall for this. pic.twitter.com/gBD7Z3T4gA

— Liz Wolfe (@LizWolfeReason) September 9, 2025


QUICK HITS

  • "Provided that the purpose of the Abundance movement is earnestly to galvanize the left under the banner of Abundance, which it will then produce, the project is obviously doomed to fail," writes my friend Mike Solana in The Atlantic. "Partly this is because of structural issues innate to our political system, and partly this is because large swaths of the left, which Abundance Dems need to win elections, are actively and often publicly fantasizing about sending Abundance Dems to the guillotine…As America's political right embraces economic populism, appealing to voters who care about issues like the affordability of groceries and housing, along with crime and immigration, it's not yet clear what the Democratic Party of 2028 will look like, or who will be its leader. What is clear, however, is that centrists and elitists in the party will need to tap into the left's own growing populist wing to win, and everyone seems to understand that a game like that, with a group of people who genuinely want violence, requires… delicacy, let's say."
  • "American high-school seniors' scores on major math and reading tests fell to their lowest levels on record, according to results released Tuesday by the U.S. Education Department," reports The Wall Street Journal. "Twelfth-graders' average math score was the worst since the current test began in 2005, and reading was below any point since that assessment started in 1992. The share of 12th-graders who were proficient slid by 2 percentage points between 2019 and 2024—to 35% in reading and 22% in math."
  • One-third of high-level jobs at the Bureau of Labor Statistics are vacant.
  • This does everyone a disservice:

1/ After Jordan Neely randomly punched a 67-year-old woman in the face, which led to one of his three dozen or so arrests, several for assault, he spent 15 months in jail, max. Then The Helpers arrived(!), leading to "a carefully planned strategy between the city and his lawyers… pic.twitter.com/a05jB0BtGH

— Jesse Singal (@jessesingal) September 8, 2025

  • Prayer for conversion—specifically from gay to straight, or transgender to not—is now considered illegal in New South Wales, Australia, punishable by up to five years in prison, per the Conversion Practices Ban Act of 2024. But the law, which prohibits praying with or over a person with the intention of changing or suppressing their sexual orientation or gender identity (even if they have consented to it), sets a disturbing precedent, infringing on the rights of the faithful. Full, shocking exchange here over the law and how it can be enforced:

????????New South Wales Attorney General Michael Daley explicitly says that some Christian prayers are against the law and illegal, and those found engaging in 'unlawful' prayers could face five years in prison.

See the story at https://t.co/m9uOp0q9IH pic.twitter.com/64ZmW9Yj5v

— Protestia (@Protestia) September 8, 2025

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  1. Chumby   8 months ago

    Unlucky Pierre

    Islamic extremists threaten to set fire to Notre-Dame Cathedral in Paris unless authorities free Ibrahim Alisaoui, who murdered three French citizens.

    - Live Leak

    The rapefugees in Eurotrash land telling the rapefugees in the US to hold my beer fermented goat milk. The moors you learn about this, the less you like it.

    1. Spiritus Mundi   8 months ago

      They should slowly chop his head off in front of Notre Dame a la Daniel Pearl.

      1. mad.casual   8 months ago

        Stake him down in front of Notre Dame, cut his abdomen open, and let pigs feed on his innards.

        Hang paintings of it in the Louvre.

        1. Eeyore   8 months ago

          That would "free" him.

        2. Quo Usque Tandem   8 months ago

          Just make him eat bacon.

          1. Social Justice is neither   8 months ago

            What did bacon do to you?

            1. Jefferson Paul   8 months ago

              Make him eat vegan bacon--that would be a real punishment!

          2. mad.casual   8 months ago

            Then you run the problem of any secular or Christian Westerner or American or other group threatening to "mostly peacefully" burn down Notre Dame.

  2. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   8 months ago

    New South Wales Attorney General Michael Daley explicitly says that some Christian prayers are against the law and illegal, and those found engaging in 'unlawful' prayers could face five years in prison.

    Pray tell.

    1. Chumby   8 months ago

      Given the woke culture there, Christians don’t have a prayer.

      1. Idaho-Bob   8 months ago

        Curious what the penalty is if a certain religious group simply throws the gay or trannie off a roof? Less than 5 years I'd bet.

        1. Wizzle Bizzle   8 months ago

          I'd be curious how they feel about people of any faith praying for the death of a certain orange president, which would cover a much greater number of Aussies than this pablum.

          Australia is every bit as diseased as Canada and Scotland. Time to remove them from our umbrella of protection. If they love authoritarian Communism so much, they should be more than happy to live under the CCP.

          1. Quo Usque Tandem   8 months ago

            They [well, their enlightened leaders] want their own CCP, thank you very much. And their followers truly believe [have been lead to believe by the afore mentioned] that they need that level of government to protect them from those awful deplorables in their midst; who in turn must be forced to behave.

          2. Mother's Lament   8 months ago

            "Australia is every bit as diseased as Canada and Scotland. Time to remove them from our umbrella of protection."

            This always ticks me off a little, because the source of the infection, patient zero so to speak, is the left coast of the United States of America, and the transmission vector was things like USAID.

            America isn't innocent in this. Just because the red states are a powerful source of penicillin at home, doesn't mean that blue America isn't the original plague rat.

            1. Chumby   8 months ago

              The Groomtown Rats

            2. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   8 months ago

              Since it all really originated from the Frankfurt school can we all just agree to blame the Germans?

              1. Mother's Lament   8 months ago

                "Soon after Adolf Hitler's rise to power in 1933, the Institute first moved from Frankfurt to Geneva, and then to New York City, in 1935, where it joined Columbia University. The School's journal, the Zeitschrift für Sozialforschung ("Journal of Social Research"), was renamed "Studies in Philosophy and Social Science". This began the period of the School's important work in Marxist critical theory."

                Fucking Americans...

                1. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   8 months ago

                  Fair enough, but we should still blame the Germans.

                  1. Chumby   8 months ago

                    Two wrongs don’t make a reich, but the third reich is definitely wrong.

    2. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   8 months ago

      Weird that this gets a mention, yet praying grandmas at an abortion clinic facing 10 years is ignored.

    3. Eeyore   8 months ago

      What if you start by chopping their dick off and then pray for a fast recovery?

  3. Fist of Etiquette   8 months ago

    ...the House Oversight Committee released the book yesterday after it subpoenaed Epstein's estate.

    Terrible poetry is Orange Hitler's worst atrocity yet.

    1. mad.casual   8 months ago

      I wish Trump would just quit portraying himself as the villain and participating in cancel culture by trotting out pictures of himself with Epstein 30(?) yrs. ago. This evil-Forrest-Gump-as-timelord schtick is getting both tiresome and hard to follow.

      1. Wizzle Bizzle   8 months ago

        I blame Marvel. Now everything has to be a multiverse with overlapping timelines. Thanks, Disney.

        1. Super Scary   8 months ago

          Every modern Spider-man thing has to have at least 2 to 3 other Spider-men in it. It's tiresome.

          1. Chumby   8 months ago

            Oh what a tangled web they weave.

      2. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   8 months ago

        He won't get votes in 2028 now. Sarc will be upset. Oh well. JD time.

        1. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   8 months ago

          Oh come on, Trump’s not going to need any votes to remain president in 2028.

          1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   8 months ago

            Fair. Forgot about his secret yet public army that Maddow keeps talking about.

            1. Chumby   8 months ago

              They are like his brownshirts only loyal to him.

        2. windycityattorney   8 months ago

          As if the racist base that MAGA groomed is going to put Usha Vance in the White House as first lady. They haven't even recovered from the Obama's yet. Way too soon for all that.

          Plus JD has the charisma of a punching bag. He won't even win a GOP primary.

          1. Mother's Lament   8 months ago

            "Racist base that MAGA groomed"

            Kash Patel is kept in the White House lobby shining shoes.

            Do you masturbate when you imagine Trump's Aryan Übermensch in their crisp uniforms and jackboots beating down your door?

            "Plus JD has the charisma of a punching bag."

            That's why he never had a movie made about his life and wasn't elected on his first try... Oh wait.

            If only he had the charisma of Tim Kaine, Kamala Harris and Tim Walz.

            1. windycityattorney   8 months ago

              Would you like to bet whether JD Vance will win the next presidential election?

              Just let me know the amount.

              1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   8 months ago

                Sorry. I dont bet dollars to food stamps.

                1. Chumby   8 months ago

                  Awww SNAP!

              2. Mother's Lament   8 months ago

                A hundred million? You have to be a blue bubbled CNN watcher of the highest degree to think that Vance isn't popular.

          2. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   8 months ago

            Nobody believes you’re an attorney.

            I’m starting to question if you tie your own shoes.

            1. Fats of Fury   8 months ago

              I think he's Brandon Johnson's attorney, real name Algonquin J. Calhoun.

          3. Jefferson Paul   8 months ago

            I will say, I was very impressed, stylistically, by JD's performance in the VP debate this past fall. If he can improve upon that, he's not going to be an easy out for the Dem challenger.

          4. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   8 months ago

            Not only is he not a lawyer, but also a projecting drmocrat.

            Trump increased his total votes with Vance on the ticket. Kamala lost 6M dem voters. Weird.

    2. Randy Sax   8 months ago

      Honestly any association with Epstein is a black mark. I could imagine 5-6 years from now people that were maga distancing themselves from Trump at that point.

      1. Sometimes a Great Notion   8 months ago

        True, of course Bill Clinton has not become "he must not be named", yet.

        1. Randy Sax   8 months ago

          I could see a similar trajectory for Trump as Bill. Out of the limelight, not actively "celebrated". But I don't think Trump's legacy will look anything like Reagan's for example.

        2. Ajsloss   8 months ago

          That's (D)ifferent and you know it.

          1. Sometimes a Great Notion   8 months ago

            I don't know that his supporters will distance themselves from him. With all the backlash against the government's response to covid, his supporters won't even acknowledge he was a part of that.

            Sure a segment of the broadcast media makes (D)ifferent true, but we were talking distancing from supporters.

            1. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   8 months ago

              “his supporters won't even acknowledge he was a part of that.”

              He was literally booed at one of his rallies over it.

              1. Sometimes a Great Notion   8 months ago

                If its the time I know of, it was for him saying get the the vax, not for his admins policies.

                1. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   8 months ago

                  Oh so just that one time. Got it.

                  Probably why his cabinet the second time is so similar.

      2. damikesc   8 months ago

        Given that this card, if it was signed by Trump --- no evidence it is his signature --- was also signed several years before his first trial...it will have no bearing one way or the other.

        Again, if Trump was involved, Biden would have leaked it.

        1. Randy Sax   8 months ago

          Doesn't matter if he was involved or not. The fact that some people think he was, is enough to mark him. I'm not personally accusing Trump of anything.

          1. HorseConch   8 months ago

            I think that number is pretty small. We all saw what he went through in the 4 years after he left office, and anyone with an IQ over room temp knows Biden wouldn't have held back something so damning if it were there.

      3. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   8 months ago

        Gee, asswipe, they both LIVED IN THE EASTERN TIME ZONE!!!!!!!!!!!!
        Do I have to connect the dots for every TDS-addled pile of shit?

        1. Randy Sax   8 months ago

          See response to damikesc above.

      4. mad.casual   8 months ago

        Honestly any association with Epstein is a black mark.

        Black mark with whom? The Anti-abortionists? The Anti-gay marriage/LGBTQIA+ community? The pro-2A people?

        I think his celebration as some Reagan-esque figure, akin to his first term, depends a lot on what comes after. If Vance loses or veers hard GOPe or catches a bullet an inch to the right of his left ear, Trump absolutely would go down as the last vestige of a coherent, decadent, pro-Capitalism, pro-America zeitgeist or culture.

    3. Chumby   8 months ago

      Jack and sarc,
      Went to the park,
      Each with a buck and a quarter.
      Sarc came back with two fifty in booze money.

      1. Mother's Lament   8 months ago

        Is "the park" a euphemism for the dumpster at the back of the 7Eleven?

        1. Chumby   8 months ago

          Funny you mention 7-11. Was in travel mode the past few weeks twelve time zones away. And they freaking had 7-11s there. When in the rural areas, one of the few places that had an ATM willing to do business with my checking account.

          1. Jefferson Paul   8 months ago

            Was there an Indian or Pakistani working the 7-11 over in whatever country it was?

            I would guess Japan or Australia, but everyone knows you're just a PuTiN pUpPeT, so probably Russia!

            1. Chumby   8 months ago

              It was none of those places.

              “But everybody knows”

              Jesus Christ. I’m thankful that I rarely have to interact with retards like you in real life.

              1. Jefferson Paul   8 months ago

                Dude, relax. I thought it was obvious I was joking by putting in the weird capitalization for "Putin Puppet." I'm with you when it comes to Ukraine/Russia. I want no funding from the US going to Ukraine, and while I don't support Putin invading, it certainly wasn't unprovoked with the US and NATO continuing to try to get Ukraine into NATO, which is Russia's "brightest of bright, red lines," according to the "Nyet Means Nyet" memo by Burns. I was mocking the few here who have called you a Putin puppet for not supporting Ukraine and not deifying Zelinskyy.

    4. Ska   8 months ago

      The signature as pubic hair is a great touch, though.

      1. Quo Usque Tandem   8 months ago

        Literally Caligula.

      2. Jefferson Paul   8 months ago

        That's why I don't think it was Trump. Do you really see the guy, at his business peak in the 90s, taking the time to draw that creative signature?

  4. Fist of Etiquette   8 months ago

    ...drawings of zebras and lions humping...

    No velvet painting of a whale and a dolphin getting it on?

    1. Chumby   8 months ago

      What would be the porpoise of that humpback?

      1. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   8 months ago

        Can’t you sea it?

        1. Quo Usque Tandem   8 months ago

          Maybe he just blew a seal.

  5. Fist of Etiquette   8 months ago

    It is framed by a silhouette drawing of naked women...

    Naked? I don't see nip.

    1. Fist of Etiquette   8 months ago

      Oh, wait, there it is.

      1. Sometimes a Great Notion   8 months ago

        Also Fist "Nip" is not the preferred nomenclature. Asian-American, please.

    2. Jefferson Paul   8 months ago

      The state flag of Virginia has a lady with one naked boob and nip showing.

      I've always wondered why only one nip? Either both or neither would be a better approach. Or put the three-tit chick from Total Recall on the flag.

  6. Fist of Etiquette   8 months ago

    It's clear Harris-supporting women do not prioritize children.

    Women? Or just uterus-havers?

    1. HorseConch   8 months ago

      Chest feeders are probably hardest hit. I wonder if Mayor Pete counts in the chest feeding stats these days, or did Trump change how we count them?

    2. Chumby   8 months ago

      Harris-supporting MAPedos very much prioritize children.

      1. Spiritus Mundi   8 months ago

        Other people's children. But sometimes their own.

        1. Chumby   8 months ago

          There was that fat radical chemistry teacher registered sex offender that adopted a boy with his gay male lover husband thingy:

          https://www.ibtimes.sg/who-brandon-keith-mitchell-convicted-sex-offenders-viral-gay-surrogacy-video-sparks-concerns-80957

          1. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   8 months ago

            “fat radical chemistry teacher”

            Hmmmmm?

            1. Chumby   8 months ago

              The obese gish galloping pathological liar that frequents the comments here is employed at a lab and not a school, thankfully.

    3. mad.casual   8 months ago

      I think the fact that "Using talents and resources to help others" doesn't dovetail into the other sides' "Having children" specifically makes the distinction moot, no?

      1. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   8 months ago

        The conundrum is Harris voters are 1 inharently emotionally unstable. 2. Talentless.

        1. Michael Ejercito   8 months ago

          I wonder how they became that way.

  7. Fist of Etiquette   8 months ago

    Trump-supporting women want them, but not at the expense of their financial independence because the husband is less important, crucial or likely to be in the picture.

    Trump deported and tariffed all the husbands.

    1. Chumby   8 months ago

      That sentence helps show how far the west has gone woke.

    2. Bubba Jones   8 months ago

      I certainly can't afford a nanny anymore.

      1. EISTAU Gree-Vance   8 months ago

        Yeah, same here. Plus, who’s gonna wipe our asses?

        It’s a crisis, I tell ya.

    3. damikesc   8 months ago

      Those women will be thrilled when, in their 50's, the only things that will speak to them are their litany of cats.

      1. Chumby   8 months ago

        Mr. Boots and Miss Snuggles might be enough conversation for the mentally ill Maddow viewers.

        1. Neutral not Neutered   8 months ago

          No they are not, sadly, which is why we see posts from Molly...

          1. Chumby   8 months ago

            Tony is here because his cats don’t like peanut butter.

            1. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   8 months ago

              What would be the feline equivalent of an Akita?

              1. Mother's Lament   8 months ago

                Even one of those little horny toy poodles that hump everything would look on Tony with scorn and disgust.

              2. Chumby   8 months ago

                Likely a Maine coon cat. Or just bringing home a bobcat or lynx.

  8. Spiritus Mundi   8 months ago

    It's clear Harris-supporting women do not prioritize children.

    That is uterus havers you bigot. And chicks with dicks can't get pregnant. Also, abortion is holy sacrament to these purple haired harpies.

    1. VinniUSMC   8 months ago

      The clearest thing is that the Harris supporters prioritize self above all else. Even if it just means "feeling good about" their virtues through vapid virtue signalling.

      1. Vernon Depner   8 months ago

        They've been taught from kindergarten that men are evil beasts and self-sacrifice is oppression. Of course they don't want marriage and children.

    2. Michael Ejercito   8 months ago

      It definitely is a sacrament for those who feel that men can get pregnant.

  9. Fist of Etiquette   8 months ago

    The socialists are lying, and trying to get respectable cover for their terrible ideas.

    Gone are the days when the attention-payers can be lined against a wall, I guess.

  10. Sometimes a Great Notion   8 months ago

    "Unlawful Prayer" might just top my evil government phrase list, up there with "Essential Workers" and "Enhanced Interrogation".

    1. Spiritus Mundi   8 months ago

      Government classifications of people are 100% safe and effective with no downsides.

    2. Idaho-Bob   8 months ago

      Gun Safety or Common Sense gun laws has got to be up there.

      1. Sometimes a Great Notion   8 months ago

        "Gun Free Zone"

  11. Fist of Etiquette   8 months ago

    ...large swaths of the left, which Abundance Dems need to win elections, are actively and often publicly fantasizing about sending Abundance Dems to the guillotine...

    Indulged for too long, they were.

    1. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   8 months ago

      I saw this Abundance thing mentioned somewhere else and I have no idea what it means.

      1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   8 months ago

        Dems pretending they didnt vote or encourage the radical left. They still support high taxes and deep regulations.

        1. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   8 months ago

          Ah, so just another example of: Leftists lie, it’s what they do.

  12. Fist of Etiquette   8 months ago

    American high-school seniors' scores on major math and reading tests fell to their lowest levels on record...

    Well worth it to get rid of Trump for a while.

  13. Fist of Etiquette   8 months ago

    One-third of high-level jobs at the Bureau of Labor Statistics are vacant.

    High-level? Well, that's where all the thinking gets done.

    1. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   8 months ago

      We are one third of the way there!

    2. Anomalous   8 months ago

      Who's tracking that?

      1. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   8 months ago

        The stupid people working the low level jobs? (HR)

    3. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   8 months ago

      They just revised jobs down a total of 911K. Again. After last years 800k.

      https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/worst-revision-history-bls-admits-record-919k-fewer-jobs-were-added

      Poor qb will blame tariffs but timeline is April 24 to March 25.

      Mentioned this the other day. A lot of the current reports are really fixing the cooked reports from Biden.

      1. Gaear Grimsrud   8 months ago

        But Trump was wrong to fire the head of BLS.

  14. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   8 months ago

    It's austrilia. Christian prayers are illegal, but muslims murdering people is cultural enrichment

  15. Fist of Etiquette   8 months ago

    Prayer for conversion—specifically from gay to straight, or transgender to not—is now considered illegal in New South Wales, Australia, punishable by up to five years in prison...

    Down Under is really lagging behind. They didn't hear that Trump got reelected. Also, Oz is already a prison.

    1. Anomalous   8 months ago

      Also, Oz is already a prison.
      We know, we saw the show on HBO.

      1. Jefferson Paul   8 months ago

        And if anything, most of the inmates were converting from straight to gay. I don't know if prayer was involved.

  16. SRG2   8 months ago

    Trump and Leavitt are still claiming that the letter is fake. Does anyone believe them? Most cultists here probably think the letter is genuine but care neither about that nor about Trump's lying - but I stand to be corrected.

    1. TrickyVic (old school)   8 months ago

      Much like Biden's decline.

      Or Bill Clinton's lying about sex under oath, which got him impeached, but the Senate didn't think it was worthy of removal from office.

      No one really cares about sex anymore.

      1. SRG2   8 months ago

        Much like Biden's decline.

        Not really, though the covering up of his decline should be investigated (as I've said before). It's not too difficult to explain why the GOP are not interested in investigating it, of course.

        1. Fats of Fury   8 months ago

          They did a piss poor coverup. Most people including democrats knew Biden was demented during his campaign.

    2. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   8 months ago

      You will believe whatever dems te you shrike.

      But I'm sure you dismiss the news from Johnson thst Trump was an informant against epstein.

      1. windycityattorney   8 months ago

        Johnson has already walked it back and said he misspoke.

        1. SRG2   8 months ago

          Yeah, slip of the tongue, could happen to anyone.

    3. Mother's Lament   8 months ago

      Trump and Leavitt are still claiming that the letter is fake. Does anyone believe them?

      Reminds me of when you guys claimed Ashley Biden's diary was fake.

      But this is not the first time you guys have frauded documents, or everything else for that matter, about Trump. From the Steele dossier, to the WW2 soldiers are "losers", to the peeing hookers, to the E. Jean Carroll accusation that was plagiarized from a novel, to staging the "classified documents" scandal with empty boxes, the list of lies and forgeries are endless.

      No wonder nobody believes you anymore.

      1. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   8 months ago

        See my post below about Swallwell.

      2. Michael Ejercito   8 months ago

        And the Killian memos.

      3. SRG2   8 months ago

        Do you think Jewish Space Lasers are real? That Hillary was running a pedophile ring in the basement of a pizza place? You must, because "you people", etc. Alternatively, don't be so fucking quick with that broad brush bullshit.

        1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   8 months ago

          Covid, censorship, spying on trump.

          Love how you always inject topics nobody here ever endorsed while avoiding the shit you did the same thing as here and ended up being right.

        2. Mother's Lament   8 months ago

          COVID came from a wetmarket, Conservatives are all terrorists, Ivermectin doesn't work, HCQ doesn't work, Biden doesn't have dementia, Masks work, COVID passports, Cuomo didn't kill old people, Dominion systems were secure, Hunter Biden is an artist, Trump colluded with Russia, Jan 06 was an insurrection, Transwoman are real women, BLM is mostly peaceful, Trump had a pee pee tape, Antifa is an idea, George Floyd didn't overdose, Advanced coursework is racist, 1619 is real history, Hunter Laptop wasn't real, Trump caused asian hate, White rage is the problem, CRT isn't poisonous, All white people are racist, A pipe in ATL stopped the count, Jussie Smollet was attacked, China travel ban was racist, Words are violence, The military isn't woke, The FBI is apolitical, Shokin was fired for corruption, Obama didn't build cages, Iran never got cash pallets, The border is under control, Voter ID is racist, Biden is tough on Putin, Blasey Ford was credible, Swalwell isn't compromised, 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          1. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   8 months ago

            Poor gov’na shrike.

          2. SRG2   8 months ago

            Nothing to do with me. My compliments on the screed - but such an effort to so small an end.

            1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   8 months ago

              We know you have no shame with your bullshit.

            2. Mother's Lament   8 months ago

              Three quarters of that you believe right now, Mr. BlueAnon.

        3. Chumby   8 months ago

          PWNED!

      4. SRG2   8 months ago

        BTW, regardless of whether you care, do you think it more likely than not that it's genuine?

        And do you think that the WSJ is left-leaning?

        1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   8 months ago

          The editorial board is 100% left leaning. This has been known for a decade.

          1. Fats of Fury   8 months ago

            It is the journalists that are left leaning. The editors are GOPe, which when writing about Trump the two sides verge.

        2. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   8 months ago

          Lmao. Poor shrike.

        3. Mother's Lament   8 months ago

          Ab-so-fucking-lutely. Most late-stage capitalists are corporatist and proggy as fuck.

          1. SRG2   8 months ago

            So you do think it more likely than not that the letter is genuine.

            1. Mother's Lament   8 months ago

              No. But it was a waste of effort.

    4. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   8 months ago

      The TDS-addled SRG finds that Epstein and Trump living in the same time zone is supicious.
      But then the TDS-addled asswipe SRG is a lying pile of slimy shit, ain't he?

  17. But SkyNet is a Private Company   8 months ago

    Seeking spiritual counsel is ok as long as the counsel is government approved.

    Glad I watched til the end.

  18. Longtobefree   8 months ago

    Speaking of Gen Z - - - -

    https://notthebee.com/article/nepalese-government-literally-on-fire-as-prime-minister-flees-country

    1. Mother's Lament   8 months ago

      The youth will save us from what the Boomers have wrought.

      How fucked up as a generational cohort do you have to be when every single younger generation is wiser than you.

      1. Red Rocks White Privilege   8 months ago

        How fucked up as a generational cohort do you have to be when every single younger generation is wiser than you.

        What's going on in Nepal has very little to do with Boomers as a generation.

        I've been seeing a lot of shit showing up in my YouTube feed from Millennials crying like little bitches about how Boomers had their whole life on easy mode and blaming them for how they can't afford to buy a house. Meanwhile, that same generation spent the ir 20s going "YOLO, LOL, spending your 20s saving money and not having experiences is a miserable existence" and dicking around during a decade that saw a housing market with rock-bottom interest rates, and the aftermath of housing prices bottoming out from the 2000s bubble popping. Now they're getting pissed when Grandma and Grandpa sell the home they've lived in for decades so they have some money to get them through the rest of their lives, when they could have bought a house 10-15 years ago instead of renting in DA BIG CITY because they wanted DAT BIG CITY LIFE.

        1. Mother's Lament   8 months ago

          Boomers have totally had their lives on easy mode, and while Millennials are doing okayish, Gen Z is totally fucked, and I say this as Gen X.

          1. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   8 months ago

            Was talking to my nieces fiancé a couple months ago. Right out of college, just signed a lease for a two bedroom apartment, paying more in rent than my house payment.

            I made some comment about telling boomers to gfts when they bitch about how easy they have it.

          2. Red Rocks White Privilege   8 months ago

            Boomers have totally had their lives on easy mode

            Oh, bullshit. I hear this nonsense from people all the time, and it shows how blinkered they really are.

            Most of the Boomers weren't the dumbass hippie drug addicts and sex fiends that the press lionized. They were largely from lower middle to middle class homes where the parents came back from the war and got factory and blue collar jobs. A lot of the older ones went right to work for the factories themselves, and/or got to visit SE Asia to get shot at.

            During the 1970s, the US economy completely went in the toilet after Bretton Woods and stayed that way for a decade. Stagflation and unemployment that was the worst since the final years of the Depression. The 1980s was spent mostly trying to recover from that period, and in the meantime, America's factory economy and small towns started dying off. The younger Boomers managed to navigate this a bit better when the internet revolution kicked off, but still had to deal with three recessions that effectively delayed retirement for a lot of them. The ones who managed to make it through and give Millennials the fake impression that "they had it so easy" are typically the ones who bought a house in the late 70s-mid-80s, didn't spend their money on status symbols or "experiences" like the YOLO moron Millennials did, and just fucking stayed put for over 40 years.

            As a younger Gen-Xer myself, I'll call bullshit on anyone who thinks the Boomers had it easy, because I had to live through quite a bit of the same shit, just at a younger age, and it sucked donkey dick. Boomers got cornholed by the Great Recession just as much as the Millennials and Gen-X did.

            1. Jefferson Paul   8 months ago

              The bad monetary policy of the last 40+ years has caused house prices to skyrocket (despite hits like the Great Recession) way beyond what they'd be if we didn't have a fiat currency that our government decided to abuse for all kinds of spending. So I see the point by Gen Z about how that has given the boomers a huge leg up today.

              On the other hand, most of the homes when the boomers were coming up in the world were half the size of current homes and had shitty (compared to today) infrastructure and appliances. Gen Z seems to think Boomers acquired in their early 20s what the Boomers NOW have. They didn't, and struggled for years to get there. That's what Gen Z doesn't seem willing to accept.

              The biggest problem I see, anecdotally, is the sense of entitlement that Gen Z displays. "I've worked since I was 15 (25 now), and I shouldn't have to keep working until I'm old." "Why should I have to work to feed, house, and entertain myself--there are enough rich people that I shouldn't have to work." That attitude is prevalent among many 20-somethings today (at least in my experience, but I'm not saying all of them are like that).

              1. Marshal   8 months ago

                The biggest problem I see, anecdotally, is the sense of entitlement that Gen Z displays. "I've worked since I was 15 (25 now), and I shouldn't have to keep working until I'm old." "Why should I have to work to feed, house, and entertain myself--there are enough rich people that I shouldn't have to work."

                This is right. So the next question is "where does this come from"?

                The socialists who control our education system specifically push this mantra because they claim to have the solution: government control will force businesses to make things cheaper, and we can take from people who have and give it to you. They pretend they can take a small amount from someone else and it will contribute a material amount to themselves because it satisfies their true emotions of envy and laziness. The Jessica Riedl article on Reason today explains why this is not true, but from the socialists point of view their program can only be proven false if they are first voted into office. So they'll take that trade and count on their ability to scapegoat others to keep them in office.

                A successful society cannot be built based on envy, it is a fundamentally destructive and demotivating emotion. And that's why the left's governance will always fail.

                1. Jefferson Paul   8 months ago

                  You're correct. The Marxist politics of envy that the schools and culture inculcated in the kids of yesterday (now Gen Z and Millennials) is where this is coming from. Don't go to the anti-work reddit page unless you really want to feel pessimistic about the nation's future. Hell, just going on X you'll see a large swath of Gen Z echoing the same sentiments about how it's unfair that they have to work to support themselves, and that when they do work, it's unfair that they aren't starting out at the C-suite of companies.

    2. Randy Sax   8 months ago

      ...the government had justified its ban, implemented last week, in the name of tackling fake news, hate speech and online fraud.

      Where have we heard that before?

    3. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   8 months ago

      BREAKING NEWS: Nepal’s Finance Minister was just stripped of his clothes and chased into a river by angry protesters after they set the country’s parliament on fire.

      https://x.com/dom_lucre/status/1965396238637170842

      1. Gaear Grimsrud   8 months ago

        Wow. That's some crazy ass shit.

  19. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   8 months ago

    Everyone on the left wants violence. They have been committing and advocating violence for decades. Theft should be praying the conservatives dot start saying "okay deal"

    1. SRG2   8 months ago

      Motes, eyes

      1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   8 months ago

        Cite an example.

      2. Red Rocks White Privilege   8 months ago

        Yeah, the left has the beam, the right has the mote. Thanks for admitting it.

        1. SRG2   8 months ago

          It pains me not, to express the truth

          1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   8 months ago

            Yet 0% of your time here is spent criticizing democrats shrike. You spend more time pushing their narratives lol.

            1. Chumby   8 months ago

              A minor revision: Shrike has also spent some time sharing links to his life’s passion.

              1. SRG2   8 months ago

                Not shrike, you lying cunt

                1. Chumby   8 months ago

                  Thou dost protest too much.

                  1. SRG2   8 months ago

                    Nope, liar. I protest sufficiently and I will continue to protest as long as lying cunts like you and racist lying cunts like JesseAZ ("putting the AZ in 'Nazi'") -keep claiming I'm shrike. Now fuck off.

                    1. Chumby   8 months ago

                      I didn’t call you shrike, retard. I was expanding on Jesse’s criticism of shrike’s track record of pushing Team D narratives. I was merely referencing shrike having posted links to cp in these comments.
                      You willing to agree that shrike is a Team D apologist and a MAPedo?

                2. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   8 months ago

                  You didnt protest your adoration for CP...

    2. Marshal   8 months ago

      Only a minority want violence, although this is only because most leftists realize it costs them votes.

      Rather leftists accept violence because it is an inescapable byproduct of their demonization campaign against non-leftists without which they would never win another election.

  20. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   8 months ago

    The New York Times has still not published a single thing about the murder of Ukrainian refugee Iryna Zarutska.

    I think we should all be able to agree that this is extremely weird.

    Millions of people are talking about it but the NYT just refuses to report on it.

    The story is important because it underscores a number of major failures when it comes to criminal justice and mental health policy in America.

    An extremely violent, severely mentally ill man was allowed to just wander the streets as a homeless person until he murdered an innocent person in an utterly heinous unprovoked attack. A young Ukrainian refugee fleeing war.

    How is this not newsworthy?

    https://x.com/DrewPavlou/status/1965202949044593037

    1. Chumby   8 months ago

      The NYT is still working on how to blame this on Trump tariffs.

      1. Idaho-Bob   8 months ago

        The NYT is waiting for the retribution. Then claim conservatives are the violent ones without providing context.

        1. Wizzle Bizzle   8 months ago

          FWIW, the NYT did report on this, but way too late. There is no question they were trying to sweep it under the rug, like every other DNC outlet, but they were shamed into reporting on it a week later. Which is a good signal of their lack of power these days.

          1. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   8 months ago

            Did they cover it straight or like some of the other lefty rags with a version of “MAGA Pounces!”

            1. Michael Ejercito   8 months ago

              They sure were quick to report on a shooting of a bunch of kids in Minneapolis.

            2. Wizzle Bizzle   8 months ago

              I wouldn't know. I don't read that rag, I just wanted to know if they were actually still pretending the story doesn't exist.

            3. Jefferson Paul   8 months ago

              Of course they chose the 'Republicans pounce" angle:

              "Ukrainian Refugee Stabbing in North Carolina Ignites a Firestorm on the Right"

    2. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   8 months ago

      But the story might make trains look bad.

      1. Chumby   8 months ago

        They had a loco motive when abstaining from covering this?

        1. Ajsloss   8 months ago

          +1

      2. Wizzle Bizzle   8 months ago

        Trains lives matter.

    3. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   8 months ago

      Anarco-tyranny:

      The Biden-appointed judge who freed DeCarlos Brown (the black man who killed Iryna Zarutska) was a black woman who went to “Cooley Law School”, which has the lowest bar passage rate of any law school in the country, and even its own Wikipedia page describes it as “the worst law school in America”.

      https://x.com/zarathustra5150/status/1965404660224622604

      1. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   8 months ago

        America is going to be dealing with the problem of criminal loving judges for a generation

        https://x.com/jeremykauffman/status/1965397126281895944

        1. damikesc   8 months ago

          Libertarians --- we listened to you and did away with "three strikes" laws.

          As expected, your ideas were fucking retarded.

          Bring back "three strikes" laws. Judges cannot be trusted to actually have good judgment.

          1. Michael Ejercito   8 months ago

            It is almost as if they consider criminals victims.

            1. Idaho-Bob   8 months ago

              Not almost; they call POC criminals victims. A dark corner (pun intended) of TikTok was blaming the Ukrainian woman.

          2. Wizzle Bizzle   8 months ago

            Yup. Aside from the absurd lack of response to the covid authoritarianism, this kind of shit killed the LP.

            Pass drug legalization! We super pinky swear we'll enforce DUIs and public use 100%. There are laws for that.

            Open the borders! We super pinky swear none of the invaders will take tax money or commit crimes 100%. There are laws for that.

            The LP is just another DNC. All carrot, no stick.

            1. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   8 months ago

              Some of us were warning the LP and Reason that the criminal justice reform movement had been taken over by the progressives, but autists gonna autist. And certain journalists are going to accept brown envelopes.

              1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   8 months ago

                But your solution to problems isnt perfect. So ignore negatives and fund it!

                1. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   8 months ago

                  Solve it? I just wanted them to stop covering for the mostly peaceful riots and similar leftist violence because Orange Man Bad.

      2. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   8 months ago

        criminal who was arrested 6 times and released now r*ped a 4 year old, giving her an STD.

        Something is seriously wrong.

        https://x.com/DefiantLs/status/1965402347238268999

        1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   8 months ago

          As qb loves saying, crime has always existed. So why are you complaining.

          1. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   8 months ago

            You get used to it.

            1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   8 months ago

              Sometimes the criminals even say sorry.

            2. Ajsloss   8 months ago

              It's part of that big-city charm.

          2. Quicktown Brix   8 months ago

            FUCK YOU, Jesse

            Over a 4 year old! FUCK YOU! I never said that and certainly never would about a rape of a 4 year old, you hopeless pathological EVIL LIAR.

            FUCK YOU
            FUCK YOU
            FUCK YOU

            and have a nice day.

            1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   8 months ago

              Fuck off and die, asswipe.

            2. damikesc   8 months ago

              What is the cut-off point, out of curiosity, where crime can be just ignored because "it will always be there"?

              1. Quicktown Brix   8 months ago

                That's a better question for someone that said "crime can be ignored it will always be there" because I did not.

                Red Rocks insinuated my opinion on use of the military to fight crime was invalid because I said I live in a high crime area. I quipped back "You get used to it." because I didn't think it deserved a serious rebuttal.

                https://reason.com/2025/08/15/d-c-showdown/?comments=true#comment-11165807

                I did not say. "You SHOULD get used to it."
                I did not say. "You get used to it so we should ignore it."

                So bust me about it like DLAM, using my actual words. It's funny and I can take a joke.

                But if you ask me about how much crime we can ignore, I will request you apply some common sense. You must be aware that "Ironically-you-screamed-for-increased-income-tax" Jesse is a pathological liar that makes stuff up and stretches all truth about his opponents.

                1. Red Rocks White Privilege   8 months ago

                  But if you ask me about how much crime we can ignore, I will request you apply some common sense.

                  This is a glittering generality that doesn't mean shit. You whined that Bukele ended up going ham on the cartels and turned one of the most violent shitholes in Central America into one of the safest. That had to be done because the cartels didn't want to stop acting like retards and thought they ran the country, so they massacred a bunch of innocent people and ended up paying the price.

                  You don't want Broken Windows policing because you claim it's too authoritarian, but that policy comes about because of indulgent attitudes toward crime over the course of literal decades that results in innocent people getting stabbed on the fucking subway when they're just minding their own business. So when this is pointed out to you, you make flip comments about "getting used to it" because you're too fucking obtuse to offer up anything of substance that will actually contribute to better public safety, outside of your dumb platitudes.

                  Don't cry like a bitch just because your adolescent view of human society gets mocked for the stunted idiocy that it is.

                  1. Z Crazy   8 months ago

                    What we need is Singapore-style justice.

                    Since when were there school shootings in Singapore?

                    Since when were there subway stabbings in Singapore?

                    Singapore is surely a shining city on the hill.

                    1. Red Rocks White Privilege   8 months ago

                      I don't feel bad at all that Salvadorans can walk their streets safely again. Your mileage may vary.

                  2. Quicktown Brix   8 months ago

                    You live with a false dichotomy that there is only an authoritarian police state or accepting high crime. You reject the Bill of Rights in the name of safety despite no evidence that the long term results will grant that safety.

                    If I point out that Bukele locked up 2% of his citizens mostly without trials which obviously includes countless innocent people, you consider that whining that he cleaned up crime. So how can we take you seriously?

                    1. Red Rocks White Privilege   8 months ago

                      You live with a false dichotomy that there is only an authoritarian police state or accepting high crime.

                      No, I pointed out the reality that crime got so bad that increased police measures were needed to mitigate it. You simply don't want to acknowledge that reality, so you argue that expecting a safe society is a "false dichotomy."

                      If I point out that Bukele locked up 2% of his citizens mostly without trials which obviously includes countless innocent people

                      No, if there's "obviously" innocent people, there's a number that can be attached to that, not "countless." How many are there, specifically, versus a bunch of idiots that are claiming to be innocent because it plays better to the limp-dick western press?

                      And yes, I'll continue to point out that you think it's awful that cartel members had to be thrown in prison to stop their murder and extortion sprees, or their open massacres of innocent populations that led to them getting squashed in the first place. You have no solutions to such a situation that actually works, so you do a bunch of post facto crying that it was even stopped in the first place.

                    2. Quicktown Brix   8 months ago

                      I pointed out the reality that crime got so bad that increased police measures were needed to mitigate it. You simply don't want to acknowledge that reality, so you argue that expecting a safe society is a "false dichotomy."

                      Here is me acknowledging it.

                      No, if there's "obviously" innocent people, there's a number that can be attached to that, not "countless." How many are there, specifically, versus a bunch of idiots that are claiming to be innocent because it plays better to the limp-dick western press?

                      Well Bukele admitted to 8000 innocent people imprisoned. You can be sure that's a low-ball.
                      https://www.barrons.com/news/salvadoran-president-says-8-000-innocents-freed-in-war-on-gangs-c410e0af

                    3. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   8 months ago

                      “El Salvador's President Nayib Bukele acknowledged on Tuesday that 8,000 innocent people were arrested and later released”

                    4. Quicktown Brix   8 months ago

                      Since March 2022, when the president who styles himself as the "world's coolest dictator" declared a state of "exception" allowing for suspected gang members to be arrested and held without trial or due process, some 88,000 people have been thrown in jail.

                      On August 15, Congress extended their pre-trial detention for up to two more years to allow prosecutors to bring charges and organize approximately 600 mass trials.
                      ...
                      Bukele has himself admitted that innocent people have been caught up in his "war" on gangs.

                      Last year, he announced the release of 8,000 people, saying: "No police anywhere in the world are perfect."

                      In the case of Ricardo Ernesto Martinez, prosecutors concluded two years ago that there was "insufficient evidence to proceed with the prosecution" of the 31-year-old bricklayer.

                      But prison authorities refused to release him.
                      ...
                      The prospect of all the prisoners now being subjected to mass trials -- of some 1,000 defendants at a time

                      https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20250829-families-lose-hope-for-salvadorans-held-in-gang-crackdown

                    5. Red Rocks White Privilege   8 months ago

                      Well Bukele admitted to 8000 innocent people imprisoned. You can be sure that's a low-ball.

                      So it's not actually "countless." And considering that Salvadorans don't have to worry about being randomly massacred by cartels right now, the fact they were later released doesn't mitigate the overall benefit to society.

                    6. Quicktown Brix   8 months ago

                      So it's not actually "countless."

                      8000 is just how many were admitted to. The actual number is countless.

                      the fact they were later released doesn't mitigate the overall benefit to society.

                      Sure. Just like we're all cool with the J6 defendants imprisonment. They were all released eventually so it's all good. To think some here criticized you authoritarians for that.

                    7. EISTAU Gree-Vance   8 months ago
                  3. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   8 months ago

                    Philosophy 101 libertarianism is a detriment to the actual property rights of actual individuals.

              2. rbike   8 months ago

                Sounds like it might be 5 years old? Give us a number QB.

                1. Quicktown Brix   8 months ago

                  5 years old seems about right for your reading comprehension level.

            3. Red Rocks White Privilege   8 months ago

              "Throwing violent cartel members in prison is authoritarian."

              1. Michael Ejercito   8 months ago

                They only want to punish lawful gun owners.

              2. Quicktown Brix   8 months ago

                I like how you used the quotation marks to make it official slander.

                1. Red Rocks White Privilege   8 months ago

                  You're the one who said that throwing violent cartel members in prison shouldn't be supported because of a stupid idea that mitigating crime was letting the left suppress the right when they get back in power.

                  "Just ignore shit because your political opponents might use those rules to hurt you" is kindergarten logic.

                  1. Quicktown Brix   8 months ago

                    You're the one who said that throwing violent cartel members in prison shouldn't be supported

                    Show us where I said that. This is a lie.

                    You completely ignore all the innocent people imprisoned, all the suspicionless searches and seizures, all the loss of liberties and rights like there are no tradeoffs to your desired martial law police state.

                    1. Red Rocks White Privilege   8 months ago

                      Show us where I said that. This is a lie.

                      It's right in the link you posted. You whined about a "police state" despite the fact that the cartel members were literally terrorizing an entire nation's population before they were thrown in jail. When this was pointed out to you, you shrugged it off as immaterial.

                      "Well, this wasn't done the way I think it should be done, therefore it's not legitimate and if you support it, you support the Democrats doing the same to you!" That kind of bullshit indulgence is how your lefty boos turn urban areas into crime-ridden shitholes to begin with. And it's why you're going to keep getting dragged about your flip attitude towards urban crime.

                    2. Quicktown Brix   8 months ago

                      It's right in the link you posted.

                      Point out exactly where I said that in that link then.

                      You completely dismiss any persecution of innocents or loss of rights, liberties and due process as acceptable prices to pay for reducing crime. I disagree, especially when you haven't demonstrated that your police state tactics will reduce crime.

                    3. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   8 months ago

                      "...I disagree, especially when you haven't demonstrated that your police state tactics will reduce crime..."

                      Not exactly "police state" but enforcing laws helps.
                      Once London Breed decriminalized shop-lifting up to $250/person, SF suddenly had groups of close friends cleaning out stores. We have yet to recover.

                    4. Quicktown Brix   8 months ago

                      Not exactly "police state" but enforcing laws helps

                      Yes. Absolutely.

                    5. Red Rocks White Privilege   8 months ago

                      Yes, scared people like you that haven't learned from history are the most common path to authoritarian dictatorship. And they are happy...for a little while then...well there's that history again.

                      We're making progress here. You realize you are becoming your enemy and adopting leftist totalitarianism. And when you win, they have achieved their goal.

                      You're the one that has accepted nearly everything the leftists want.

                      This is you saying, "Since the solution wasn't carried out the way I wanted it to be, it's a bad solution and no, u."

                      Sometimes, populations are so aggressively retarded that aggressive responses are required to cut it out. And having the hilariously low standards that you do for the retards but not the people who are their victims, is what ends up making that necessary.

                    6. Quicktown Brix   8 months ago

                      And having the hilariously low standards that you do for the retards but not the people who are their victims, is what ends up making that necessary.

                      Yeah me and most Americans that don't want martial law are the problem. Still perhaps you can analyze the crime rate in Europe vs the US in light of this freshly fabricated factoid, or the red state vs. blue state violent crime rates.

            4. EISTAU Gree-Vance   8 months ago

              Hey, at least he got your initials right.

              1. Quicktown Brix   8 months ago

                LOL...that is the silver lining

      3. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   8 months ago

        Apparently it is now coming out that she would trade jail time for defendants to attend a second chance rehabilitation ce ter she has a financial interest in.

        Total corruption.

    4. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   8 months ago

      Governor Stein was the AG when they started race based sentencing there and released this guy multiple times without jail for assaults. He is a Democrat.

      1. Michael Ejercito   8 months ago

        Would not race based sentencing violate equal protection?

        1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   8 months ago

          Yes. But in the acceptable way.

          Dems even set up a gofundme for this murderer.

          https://pjmedia.com/benbartee/2025/09/09/blmers-launch-gofundme-for-subway-stabber-charlotte-mayor-urges-video-censorship-n4943468

          1. EISTAU Gree-Vance   8 months ago

            “I got that white girl.”

            But this is about mental health, not race, I guess. Wow.

    5. mad.casual   8 months ago

      The story is important because it underscores a number of major failures when it comes to criminal justice and mental health policy in America.

      From the other side of the coin, the optics of fleeing a war zone to get stabbed to death on a subway in NYC doesn't exactly do the immigration or Slava Ukraini! debate any favors either.

    6. Fats of Fury   8 months ago

      Not much has changed ,"The original 1964
      New York Times article on the murder of Kitty Genovese did not mention the race of her killer, Winston Moseley. The article focused on the "bystander effect" and the lack of intervention by witnesses rather than the identities of the individuals involved" - AI

    7. EISTAU Gree-Vance   8 months ago

      Switch the races. Then it’s news.

      1. Jefferson Paul   8 months ago

        Switch the races, and have it that the white woman just called the guy the N-word, without any stabbing or murdering, and it would be national news.

  21. Fat Rush Limpcock (King of the Conservatives)   8 months ago

    "because it shows that marriage is not viewed as very high status or must-have among Gen Z women, even among Trump-voters

    Sham marriages are the conservative way.

    Ideally, at least four.

    #Limpcock approved

    1. Chumby   8 months ago

      How did your original account get divorced from the comments section?

    2. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   8 months ago

      Thanks for the nonsense.

    3. Mother's Lament   8 months ago

      That didn't make a lick of sense, Pluggo.

    4. Spiritus Mundi   8 months ago

      Gay marriage is a liberal issue.

    5. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   8 months ago

      turd, the TDS-addled ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
      If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
      turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

    6. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   8 months ago

      You were banned for posting a link to child porn.

    7. Fats of Fury   8 months ago

      Did you get an invite to Cory Bookers upcoming nuptuals?

  22. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   8 months ago

    Comparison of signatures. Probably passes for 2020 elections but may not for the lawsuit being threatened.

    https://x.com/TayFromCA/status/1965133529177878754

    Also entire letter is typed and trusted. Is there any wet ink on it at all?

    1. Quo Usque Tandem   8 months ago

      Wet ink is nothing compared to a stained dress

    2. VinniUSMC   8 months ago

      I'm not saying it is Trump's signature, or isn't, but comparing signatures from 20 years apart is hardly conclusive. If there were signature samples from the time period that also don't match the "Epstien" signature, that would be more reputable.

      Even if the letter is real, what exactly does that mean? Should everyone in "Epstein's" book be sent to prison for having, at one time, maybe been friends with him?

  23. Mother's Lament   8 months ago

    "the law, which prohibits praying with or over a person with the intention of changing or suppressing their sexual orientation or gender identity (even if they have consented to it)"

    That's literally what woke teachers and the status-hunting moms who are the foot soldiers of the trans movement are doing to the children in their care.

    The elite establishment is so fucking insane now I'm amazed they haven't destroyed the world yet.

    1. Fat Rush Limpcock (King of the Conservatives)   8 months ago

      Prayer solves all problems. It is the conservative way.

      Limpcock approved

      1. Spiritus Mundi   8 months ago

        You can't pray your pedo away, sorry.

      2. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   8 months ago

        turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
        If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
        turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

      3. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   8 months ago

        A pit of snakes solves the problem of people like you.

      4. Mother's Lament   8 months ago

        IF PRAYER IS JUST IMAGINATIVE WISHING THEN WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU TRYING TO BAN IT, PLUGGO.

        Nothing you clowns do make sense anymore.

        1. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   8 months ago

          It’s pretty telling he doesn’t care about people getting arrested for praying.

    2. Yuno Hoo   8 months ago

      Here is the official FAQs about this law. Interesting reading. However, ML, it seems that the teachers and moms you cite are not out to "change" sexual orientation or gender identity, but rather to "affirm".

      1. Super Scary   8 months ago

        And those thieves weren't stealing, they were merely procuring goods!

        1. Neutral not Neutered   8 months ago

          But they were making the life of someone else better with their crimes.

      2. Mother's Lament   8 months ago

        Kinda like how those Hollywood moms have all their children and teachers have half the class transgender, even though five years ago it was zero.

        Transgenderism is a pathology.

        Anyway the excerpts from your psychotic new law:

        Conversion practices include but are not limited to:
        - Using shame, coercion or other tactics to give someone an aversion to same-sex attractions or to encourage gender-conforming behaviour
        - Encouraging someone through a sustained effort to believe their sexuality or gender is defective or disordered
        - Performing a ritual, such as an exorcism or prayer-based practice to change or suppress someone’s sexual orientation or gender identify.
        Often, LGBTQA conversion practices are difficult to recognise because the forms they take might at first appear to be non-threatening, such as group study, mentoring and counselling, or camps and courses.

        Absolute fascism.

        1. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   8 months ago

          There is *yet another* mother in Colorado (this time in Rifle, CO) whose minor child has been KIDNAPPED by their TQ+ gr00mers and was immediately medicalized.

          These monsters have weaponized a mother’s unwillingness to lie to her child and further the belief that she was born in the wrong body. They have weaponized the suicide myth and unconstitutional state laws. They have manipulated truth & evidence — and now this mom cannot protect her minor child and the child has been placed, by the court, with her abusers.

          Now the mother has to go to court *this Wednesday 9/10* to defend herself. The abusers have her child, they’re chemically mutilating the child … but that’s not enough. Now they’re attacking her with a protective order for publicly using the birth name and biological pronouns of her own child.

          THIS MOM NEEDS HELP & SUPPORT. Colorado needs help. This has to stop.

          https://x.com/Erin4Parents/status/1965271866706415924

        2. Gaear Grimsrud   8 months ago

          The Aussies should be reacting like the Nepalese .

  24. Chumby   8 months ago

    Eco Warrior Drones On

    Greta Thunberg’s Freedom Flotilla says its aid ship, carrying Greta along with other activists and humanitarian supplies, was struck by a suspected drone attack, setting a ablaze. Organizers say the vessel was part of the Gaza aid mission when it came under attack.

    -Live Leak

    Tunisian authorities say the claims "have no basis in truth".

    A Tunisian Coast Guard official told AFP that no drone was detected in the area, and the fire likely originated from a life jacket.

    Wonder what the carbon footprint of that fire was.

    1. Randy Sax   8 months ago

      Ahahahahahahah. Was Gretta playing with a magnifying glass and eating paste again?

    2. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   8 months ago

      There was zero reported military drone activity in the area. Full video looks like it got hit by a firework or flare. But media already rushed with the Israeli drone story. Never stopping to ask themselves if an Israeli drone can sink a boat or not.

      1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   8 months ago

        https://x.com/EYakoby/status/1965382893171364020

        And now full video shows it was one of the crew members misfiring a flare. Lol.

    3. Quo Usque Tandem   8 months ago

      No one could make this stuff up, including the "Freedom Flotilla" or the Swedish Potato herself. All just beyond bizarre.

      1. mad.casual   8 months ago

        All just beyond bizarre.

        I thought "flammable life jacket" was a nice touch.

        1. Chumby   8 months ago

          I think it was either a translation error or the authorities telling the midget troll to fuck off with absurdity.

          1. mad.casual   8 months ago

            Right, Column A/Column B: "Maybe you accidentally set your own fat ass flotation device on fire?"

            1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   8 months ago

              NYT ran with "activists told us Israel droned them" to repeat the story.

              1. Chumby   8 months ago

                So expect Liz Maddow to run with that in tomorrow’s Roundup?

                1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   8 months ago

                  50% probability.

  25. Bubba Jones   8 months ago

    Age of consent was 17 in New York. Maybe it still is.

    It's not hard to believe that Bill and Donald traveled to an island to bang teenagers. It's also unlikely that they would have been able to tell the difference between 16 and 17, and they sure as well weren't asking to see IDs.

    IIRC trafficking under 18 is a big problem, as Gaetz found out.

    So here are some MAGA talking points. Free of charge.

    He didn't do it.

    If he did do it, they were over 18.

    If they were under 18, they were legal in New York.

    If they were illegal in New York, how can you expect him to tell the difference between 16 and 17?

    If he did know they were 16, he was relying on the advice of Bill Clinton: I did not break the laws of this country.

    1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   8 months ago

      Dem fantasies are truth to act blue posters.

    2. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   8 months ago

      Here's a TDS-addled lying piles of shit talking point:
      "He might have done something wrong!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
      Fuck off and die, asswipe.

    3. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   8 months ago

      Sad.

    4. mad.casual   8 months ago

      It's not hard to believe that Bill and Donald traveled to an island to bang teenagers.

      Similarly easy to believe that Bubba Jones sucks off goats. You don't even need to see flight records or passport stamps or a private island or anything like that to believe it. The mere existence of Bubba Jones and goats is sufficient to validate the belief that you suck off goats. If you believe Trump and Epstein went to the island together to bang 16-17 yr. old girls, believing Bubba Jones sucks off goats should be simple.

      So, the real question is, are you looking to endear yourself to people who would believe you suck off goats, trying to attract to your cause the sort of people of the intelligence that they would believe you suck off goats prima facie, or both?

      1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   8 months ago

        Ive had 2 sources tell me Bubba bangs the goats too.

        1. VinniUSMC   8 months ago

          I heard about it too. I guess that makes 3 sources.

          1. Chumby   8 months ago

            With a wife like Hillary, who could blame him for banging the nanny?

          2. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   8 months ago

            I heard it too, from a couple different sources.

      2. Gaear Grimsrud   8 months ago

        There are multiple goats in Bubba's time zone.

    5. But SkyNet is a Private Company   8 months ago

      Hey dumbfvck, the flight logs have been public for years.
      Trump never went to the island

      1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   8 months ago

        Who you gonna believe? Actual logs or some random TDS-addled slimy pile of lying (goat sucking) shit?

        1. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   8 months ago

          You heard Bubba Jones sucks off goats too?

          At this point you’d have to have your head in the sand not to believe Bubba Jones sucks off goats.

      2. windycityattorney   8 months ago

        Why would Trump need to fly anywhere when they were neighbors in palm beach and both owned property in NYC??

        Face it. MAGA supports a pedo and Trump will increasingly do desperate things to draw attention away from this fact. And MAGA will support him til the end.

        1. Gaear Grimsrud   8 months ago

          Why would Windycityattorney fly to an island to suck off a goat when there's a petting zoo in his time zone? Face it. Actblue supports a goat fucker.

        2. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   8 months ago

          Face it. Chicago Not a Lawyer is a slimy lying pile of TDS-addled shit.
          Fuck off and die, asswipe, after you finish sucking goat dick.

          1. windycityattorney   8 months ago

            I understand it must be morally difficult carrying water for a pedophile. But carry it you must. You have so much invested at this point it would be really terrible if it were found out you are all just really fucking stupid.

            Have you considered donating one of your own pre-teen daughters to the Donald T Trump molestation fund? I am pretty sure you can get in early on some $Trumpcoin crypto if they resemble a young Ivanka. Speaking of which...those old creepy comments he made about her are really starting to...take on a deeper shade of what the fuck. But you do you.

            1. Red Rocks White Privilege   8 months ago

              I understand it must be morally difficult carrying water for a pedophile.

              We'll defer to your expertise on carrying water for pedophiles. How many Hollywood celebrities and school teachers are on your side again?

        3. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   8 months ago

          Biden showered with his own daughter. We have more evidence for that than you do of your claims.

  26. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   8 months ago

    Why did
    @ericswalwell
    use a doctored photo of President Trump?

    It’s probably the advice his Chinese spy gave to him when they were being intimate and she telling him how she loves him.

    You are truly a repulsive human, Eric. Inside and out.

    I hope you know that

    https://x.com/thevivafrei/status/1965406061353218313

    1. mad.casual   8 months ago

      The whole "Hey Congressman!" bit walking out of wherever with an iced coffee and turning to "declare war on grocery prices, Mr. President" bit is gives off massive lizard people/"They Live!" vibes.

      Are you trying to give the impression that you have media-reporter friends hanging out to talk with outside of every local Starbucks and fast food restaurant you visit? Did somebody really tell you to try to deliver the "shame the elitist for not lowering grocery prices" message while carrying an iced coffee in that suit? Like Macron talking about austerity while wearing a $30k watch.

    2. Quo Usque Tandem   8 months ago

      Screws Fang Fang, makes a fool of himself on a daily basis, and flatulates on live TV; and yet he continues to garner over 70% of the votes in his country every two years.

      Guess it doesn't matter what you do as long as your tribe stands behind you.

  27. Yuno Hoo   8 months ago

    The share of 12th-graders who were proficient slid by 2 percentage points between 2019 and 2024—to 35% in reading and 22% in math.

    And that's with access to their cellphones! 8-(

    1. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   8 months ago

      Just victims of the public school system.

      1. Michael Ejercito   8 months ago

        Indeed.

        People wonder why we spend money on schooling.

  28. Michael Ejercito   8 months ago

    New South Wales Attorney General Michael Daley explicitly says that some Christian prayers are against the law and illegal, and those found engaging in 'unlawful' prayers could face five years in prison.
    What other countries ban prayer?

  29. Dillinger   8 months ago

    >>The drawing that definitely doesn't exist appears to exist

    snore

    1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   8 months ago

      Liz has been promising a flood of Epstein/Trump stuff and she finally found something that says they (maybe) shared a birthday party!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      1. Dillinger   8 months ago

        I don't have a big enough bucket for all the so what.

      2. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   8 months ago

        Liz didnt actually seem into it. Wonder if KMW asked her to make it the head.

        1. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   8 months ago

          Except as Sevo points out she already promised a flood of Trump Epstein evidence would be coming out a few weeks ago.

          I still think she’s good overall, but she’s much to easily sucked into leftist narratives.

          1. Dillinger   8 months ago

            who, Megyn Kelly? oh wait, Liz ...

  30. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   8 months ago

    BTW, this is obviously too local:

    "JUST IN: Supreme Court Hands Trump Two Big Wins Via Emergency Ruling"
    [...]
    "President Donald Trump scored two big legal wins on Monday, with the U.S. Supreme Court granting U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement the ability to resume conducting “roving” arrests and raids in California against suspected illegal immigrants.
    Soon after, Justice John Roberts ruled the president can fire Commissioner Rebecca Slaughter of the Federal Trade Commission. Slaughter was one of two Democratic commissioners that Trump fired in March — the other being Alvaro Bedoya; both legally challenged the move initially, before Bedoya later dropped his case...."
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/just-in-supreme-court-hands-trump-two-big-wins-via-emergency-ruling/ar-AA1M89pi?ocid=BingNewsSerp

    But did you hear about a drawing?!?!?!?!

    1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   8 months ago

      The Kavanaugh opinion is must reading for all the "due process" retards.

      1. Chumby   8 months ago

        Sullum and Boehm might need a safe space to cope.

      2. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   8 months ago

        In case they’re reading this, I’ll help them out, because they’ll probably have a hard time finding it:

        https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/24pdf/25a169_5h25.pdf

        1. Gaear Grimsrud   8 months ago

          Reason will defer judgement until the NYT analysis is published.

  31. Neutral not Neutered   8 months ago

    Time to test the age of the paper and the ink. This is probably some AI fake BS thrown together by someone with severe TDS and paid well by Soros.

    Who put together the completed card with all the other messages, drawings, pictures, etc?

    When did it come into possession of the gov? And where did come from, who had it?

    1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   8 months ago

      You're certainly not suggesting that someone would be a bit loose with the truth regarding DJT, are you?!?!?!

    2. windycityattorney   8 months ago

      Maxwell put it together for Jeffy's 50th birthday you dimwit and it came into possession of the Govt when the house committee subpoenaed the Epstein estate. The lawyers for the estate turned it over to the committee and now they released it.

      You are on the internet. All of this is being reported widely. Why don't you read something instead of running interference for team Pedo?

      1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   8 months ago

        And the asswipe who can't possibly be a Chicago lawyer says "well it's on the interweb, so it MUST be true!!!!!!!!!!!!"
        Fuck off and die, ignoramus.

      2. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   8 months ago

        BTW, shitstain, you know 1/6 was all over the internet as some attempt at 'stealing democracy!', right? RIGHT?!
        Fuck off and die, asswipe.

  32. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   8 months ago

    They just want equal rights:

    Indiana University is hosting a career fair to help only LGBTQ+ students find jobs

    .
    @IndianaUniv
    is discriminating against straight people.

    It’s illegal to discriminate on the basis of s*xual orientation.

    https://x.com/libsoftiktok/status/1965429451145330713

    1. Mike Parsons   8 months ago

      They had one of these before that was for "women only" which they had to expand to "women and nonbinary" (read: not men) because they got flack from the LGBTQ goon weirdos, which they then had to expand to "women and nonbinary, but not anyone claiming to be non binary who looks too much like a cis man" because some dudes who just wanted a job were like "ya fuck it im non binary".

      Which really just made them highlight that the whole thing is an open CRA violation

    2. mad.casual   8 months ago

      Not to defend the practice or anything, but IU is home to the Kinsey Institute, so there's a bit of "Muslims-only job fair in Mecca" subtext going on(, except, you know, if it were a Christian Church in Iran* rather than a pedophile cult study center in the rural US it would've been burned to the ground and the occupants' bodies paraded around in terrorist videos years ago).

      *Edit: or Waco, TX I suppose.

    3. Chumby   8 months ago

      What about the 2S crowd?

      1. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   8 months ago

        I guess they need 2 jobs? So maybe giving them extra help would be ok.

  33. Mike Parsons   8 months ago

    "partly this is because large swaths of the left, which Abundance Dems need to win elections, are actively and often publicly fantasizing about sending Abundance Dems to the guillotine…"

    The democrats closest to the center that are cozy with big pharma, big tech, the slew of billionaires and corpos that lead to record donations for Harris, etc...these people have all leaned into the narratives and pandered to the far left of the party that want communism, guillotines, overtly racist policies, and to burn the entire system to the ground to create the new utopia.

    They have pandered so much to this group, and allowed it to metastasize so much, that its now big enough to actual fuck them if they dont come to heel. And they aren't interested in 'abundance' or any other handshake deal the milquetoast left had with the milquetoast right. They want all of them, and their political enemies, in struggle sessions or the gulag. They arent playing for table scraps anymore. And the abundance dems, the neolibs, the Clinton/Biden/Obama/Harris dems, are solely responsible for riling them up, feeding them red meat, promising them everything, and then releasing them on the public.

    The trannies, the antifas, the BLM rioters, the palestine crazies, you cant bottle this shit back up. Now they are about to get held hostage by the beast they created.

  34. Marshal   8 months ago

    "Partly this is because of structural issues innate to our political system, and partly this is because large swaths of the left, which Abundance Dems need to win elections, are actively and often publicly fantasizing about sending Abundance Dems to the guillotine

    I find the Abundance Project ridiculously amusing. For many years I've said the left is functionally wrong on everything because even in the rare circumstance they correctly identify a problem their ideology prevents them from an effective response. The headline example for this phenomenon is law enforcement reform. We need this desperately but the biggest single step we could take is to eliminate unions, or at the very least reform them so they are not involved in the personnel hiring or evaluation process. But since protecting shitty employees is a core priority the left wants from unions they cannot accept this and "defund the police" is the best they can do.

    Similarly the left has begun realizing their program of eternal increases in regulation has driven costs massively beyond what they should be by both restricting supply and increasing costs. Their reaction should be to completely jettison this program which is almost entirely driven by their efforts to satisfy other voting blocs including "greens" and unions. This would result in their adopting a libertarian-ish regulatory policy. But they cannot make themselves adopt this program because ideologically they cannot question their own belief that libertarian policy is simply allowing the lower classes to be preyed upon. So instead of massively eliminating regulations and especially by the watermelon mafia they develop a relative handful of reforms but only in certain industries where the problem is costing them votes.

    We might refer to this as putting lipstick on a pig. Meanwhile they're running around the country patting themselves on the back for making the smallest and least impactful change they can to pretend they are addressing the problem. It's just ridiculous.

  35. mad.casual   8 months ago

    but it does seem likely that all his buddies knew he was a lecherous mofo and found it pretty funny, which is not a good look if you're the sitting president of the United States of America

    It's called an anti-hero, Liz. Someone who isn't inherently moral or righteous or that you aren't supposed to emulate but still represents good relative to the more evil characters they're surrounded by or are only as virtuous as their circumstances allow. Actors have launched careers in this role. Similar to or indistinguishable from a/the hero of last resort.

    1. Dillinger   8 months ago

      >>but it does seem likely that all his buddies knew he was a lecherous mofo and found it pretty funny

      doesn't really seem all that likely either

  36. Dillinger   8 months ago

    where is Shelly Miscavige?

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