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D.C.

We Don't Need More Federal Intervention in U.S. Cities

The use of government force to achieve political advantage is dangerous and sets a bad precedent.

J.D. Tuccille | 8.27.2025 7:00 AM

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President Donald Trump and Democratic Illinois Gov. J.B. Pritzker are undoubtedly enjoying the media spotlight accompanying their feud over possible deployment of federalized National Guard troops to Chicago after the crackdown in Washington, D.C. Neither man has ever shied away from a television camera, and Pritzker has White House ambitions of his own. But while both men savor the attention, the fact is that Pritzker has the better hand to play. Trump doesn't have the same authority in Chicago that he has in D.C. And the president has more to lose in a showdown over law and order in a city—or any jurisdiction—governed by his political opponents.

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Earlier this month, President Trump declared a state of emergency in Washington, D.C., so federal authorities could nudge the local government aside and assume responsibility for fighting crime.

"Rising violence in the capital now urgently endangers public servants, citizens, and tourists, disrupts safe and secure transportation and the proper functioning of the Federal Government, and forces the diversion of critical public resources toward emergency response and security measures," his August 11 executive order insisted in the course of taking over the city.

While the district undoubtedly has a long history of high crime, it's not obvious that it's currently exceptional. In January, the U.S. Attorney's Office for the District of Columbia boasted that violent crime "is the lowest it has been in over 30 years." But the head of the local police union points to a commander caught changing statistics to minimize the crime rate and claims the numbers can't be trusted.

Trump Has Power Over D.C., but Intervention Is a Bad Idea

What's not in question, though, is that the federal government has authority over Washington, D.C. As the Office of the City Administrator notes, "although District government officials have the authority to pass laws and govern local affairs, the United States Congress maintains the power to overturn local laws and legislate on behalf of the District." The city has home rule by the courtesy of the federal government, which can step in or take it away.

That's not to say that stepping in is a good idea. Trump dispatched federal officers, but also National Guard troops, to patrol the nation's capital. The Guard is military and not generally trained for police work. The troops don't necessarily understand the limits of their authority, and D.C. residents might count themselves lucky that unconstitutional checkpoints seem to be the worst excesses so far. Well, that and federal officers tearing down protest banners in violation of the First Amendment.

But Trump makes it clear that he considers D.C. "sort of a test" of federalized and militarized law enforcement that he might apply to other Democrat-led cities. To that end, an August 25 executive order directs Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth to ensure "that each State's Army National Guard and Air National Guard are resourced, trained, organized, and available to assist Federal, State, and local law enforcement in quelling civil disturbances and ensuring the public safety and order whenever the circumstances necessitate, as appropriate under law." The president named Baltimore, Memphis, New York, and, of course, Chicago, as prime candidates for new deployments.

Rather than wait for governors or local officials to request intervention, "we may just go in and do it, which is probably what we should do," Trump told reporters.

That raises the prospect of federal forces intervening in cities controlled by the president's political opponents to fight crime and, not coincidentally, highlight the real and alleged failings of local officials.

Chicago is a good example. The city is, undoubtedly, poorly led. Just weeks ago, before the kerfuffle over law and order, the Chicago Tribune's editorial board warned that Mayor Brandon Johnson is leading the city to financial ruin, chasing businesses away, and hiking taxes to "bankroll an ever-growing government apparatus." Johnson's approval with voters hovers somewhere in the single to low-double digits.

Chicago Is Not Washington, D.C.

But Chicago is not a federal district. It's a city in a state that has its own sovereign authority under the U.S. Constitution. Johnson is the mayor, and Pritzker is the state's governor. They're responsible to their voters. And while the city has a serious crime problem, data suggests it's falling, not getting worse.

There's limited legal basis for federal intervention anywhere that isn't Washington, D.C. Under federal law, the president can call up National Guard units in any state in case of invasion or rebellion, or to execute laws when "unable with the regular forces to execute the laws of the United States." The Posse Comitatus Act makes it illegal to use "any part of the Army, the Navy, the Marine Corps, the Air Force, or the Space Force as a posse comitatus or otherwise to execute the laws."

That said, Joseph Nunn of the Brennan Center cautions that federal law limiting police use of the military "is riddled with exceptions, loopholes, and ambiguities that leave it surprisingly weak" and that "the principle enshrined in the Posse Comitatus Act is protected more by norms and historical practice than by the text of the law itself." That is, there's a good chance Trump could "just go in and do it" and get away with it—and set a precedent for future presidents to follow.

If the Feds Break It, They Own It—and Set a Precedent

Doing so contains practical and political risks. Johnson's constituents in Chicago may hold their hapless local leader responsible for his failings now, but wait until federal forces are on the streets. Who will be blamed when Guardsmen untrained for the job, or federal immigration agents, step out of line and commit serious constitutional violations? Who will answer if they wrongfully shoot somebody? Or matters might trudge along as usual but with Johnson, Pritzker, and other local officials insulated from responsibility.

The president is counting on getting credit for fighting chaos in the streets. If, instead, his federal forces break something (or someone), he'll own the repercussions.

Trump is engaging in a dangerous political game. It's apparent that he pushed aside California Governor Gavin Newsom and Los Angeles Mayor Karen Bass earlier this year to play to public concerns over immigration but mostly to embarrass two prominent Democrats. That they're not especially good at their jobs is a concern for their voters—not the White House. Anti-crime intervention in other cities governed by his opponents is just more of the same grandstanding. The president risks turning often unpopular and incompetent politicians into martyrs to federal overreach.

That's a move Democrats will undoubtedly be happy to emulate once they're back in office.

The use of government force to achieve political advantage is always a terrible idea. It's dangerous to life and liberty. Once it's normalized, we can expect future politicians to further stretch the limits of their power.

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  1. sarcasmic   2 months ago

    That's a move Democrats will undoubtedly be happy to emulate once they're back in office.

    Yup. When Trump does unlawful and unconstitutional actions that his zealots can't excuse with "Democrats did it first so it's ok" you can count on future Democrats doing the same things and excusing it with "Trump did it first so it's ok."

    Me today; you tomorrow.

    1. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

      They'll use that power on all the deep red cities.

      1. Idaho-Bob   2 months ago

        This is hilarious, because there are no red cities.

        Sarc will have to find something else to speculate about.

        1. sarcasmic   2 months ago

          Phoenix, Fort worth, Jacksonville, Nashville...

          You going to admit to being a liar?

          Haaaaaaaaa ha ha ha ha! That would require honesty and integrity. Neither of which are Trumpian values.

          And it's not speculation. It's a given. When a president sets a precedent for use (or abuse) of power, then it becomes standard operating procedure for future presidents. For example all of the things that made you howl with rage when Democrats did it, but make you tent your pants when Trump does it.

          1. Idaho-Bob   2 months ago

            I'll concede Fort Worth, but Phoenix, Jacksonville and Nashville?
            Provide some evidence dickhead.

            1. sarcasmic   2 months ago

              Maybe my info was out of date. Regardless red cities exist. And you're not admitting to being a liar, liar.

              1. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

                With enough work, your democrats will no longer exist in the near future.

            2. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 months ago

              Even Fort Worth is debateable. Yeah, they have a GOP mayor, but the city's gone Democrat in every Presidential election since Choco Jesus. That's primarily due to white residents dropping by about 20% over the last 35 years while the Hispanic population spiked, which is why Dems have been crowing for years that Texas will eventually turn blue if they can just import enough Mexicans to turn the demographics.

              1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

                Too bad many Mexican Americans refuse to stay on the plantation, especially when they ponder the progressive social agenda, and even immigration.

                1. JohnZ   2 months ago

                  Many, many Mexicans are raised Catholic , they have conservative ideals. which is why so many switched to voting for Trump and other republicans after the democrat party screwed the pooch with their DEI- LGBTQXYZ ideology.

            3. tracerv   2 months ago

              I was born & live in Nashville. It's Democrat country big as shit and has always been. It's just looks purple because Memphis is so bad. He's full of shit.

              1. JohnZ   2 months ago

                We have the same problem here, in Michigan. Detroit being the voter fraud capitol of Michigan and several other blue towns-L ansing, Kalamazoo, Benton Harbor and Flint can out vote the rest of us three to one.

            4. Incunabulum   2 months ago

              Phoenix is only red in the sense that because Arizona outside the cities is deep red our Democrats have to toe the line. It's why red state cities aren't shit holes like blue state cities are. And it shows Dems can govern - if you have something to prevent the most insane of them from getting power.

            5. But SkyNet is a Private Company   2 months ago

              Good lord that is fvckin stupid. I'm assuming the gray box said Nashville was Republican? LOL. They TURNED DOWN THE GOP CONVENTION LAST YEAR.
              The City Council is extremely upset that Elon Musk is digging a tunnel from the airport to downtown to alleviate traffic, without their approval. He's a Fraud!

              what a fvckin moron.

          2. Idaho-Bob   2 months ago

            Show us where on the doll did Trump touch you? I mean really, you are fucking broken. You have become a caricature of TDS.

            1. sarcasmic   2 months ago

              The guy who will defend literally anything that Trump does, no matter if it violates the law, violates the Constitution, violates his oath of office, and violates every conservative principle, is calling me a caricature? You practically worship the man. You're worse than the Obamabots who shouted "Racist!" at anyone who criticized his policies. What happened to you? What changed you from a rational human being into a brainless, emotional zealot? Because you weren't always a raging piece of refuse. What happened?

              1. TrickyVic (old school)   2 months ago

                ""What happened?""

                I hate to break it to you, but it's not him it's you.

                1. Chumby   2 months ago

                  It is sarc and his puppets.

        2. SQRLSY   2 months ago

          Liar, liar, pants on fire!

          https://townsoftheusa.com/most-conservative-cities-in-usa/

          1. TrickyVic (old school)   2 months ago

            No metropolitan elite individual would acknowledge those places as cities. Colorado Springs? meh, it's not even Denver. Denver being called a city is an honorary appointment due to some song back in the 1970s.

    2. debo10   2 months ago

      Only someone who doesn't care about crime writes a story like this! As a black American with family in D.C. and other blue cities, they've been kidnapped once, cars broken into four times, robbed twice, and are afraid to go out at night. If we eliminate blue cities, America has the lowest crime rate in the world! And I find it amazing that we can have armed guards and sporting events, concerts, conventions, politicians giving speeches, etc., but we can't protect schools and Americans in their cities? Ridiculous!

  2. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    The use of government force to achieve political advantage is dangerous and sets a bad precedent.

    Agreed, although I'm pretty sure we're long past this being the precedent.

    1. Minadin   2 months ago

      Is lowering rampant violent crime that the local authorities refuse to deal with a 'political advantage'?

      1. sarcasmic   2 months ago

        Are declining crime rates evidence of refusing to deal with rampant crime? And if the presence of the military deters crime, crime will resume when they leave. Does that justify a permanent military occupation of blue cities? Because that is the end game here. An America with soldiers roaming the streets while Trump defenders swoon.

        1. SQRLSY   2 months ago

          Trump defenders swill swoon ass long ass the crack-downs are staying (ass they are now) in the BLUE areas! When the police, ICE, and soldiers starting camping out in their RED homes and making sure that they eat healthy foods and go to the bathroom often enough, THEN they'll stop swooning!

          PS, maybe we can send all of the soldiers to go invade Canada, Greenland, the Panama Canal, and the Gaza Strip, to keep them busy and out of our hair! Trump would approve of that!

        2. TrickyVic (old school)   2 months ago

          ""A series of recent, high-profile crimes in the New York City subway system prompted Gov. Kathy Hochul on Wednesday to send National Guard members into the sprawling underground network.

          Hochul is ordering a force of nearly 1,000 people, comprising 750 National Guard members, state police and transit officers, to conduct bag checks at some of the busiest stations.

          The effort, Hochul said, is intended to "rid our subways of people who commit crimes and [to] protect all New Yorkers whether you're a commuter or a transit worker."

          "No one heading to their job or to visit family or go to a doctor appointment should worry that the person sitting next to them possesses a deadly weapon," she told reporters.""

          https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/gov-kathy-hochul-sending-national-guard-members-new-york-city-subways-rcna142063

          Seems Gov Hochul understands the value of troops.

          1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

            (D)ifferent?

          2. damikesc   2 months ago

            Never forget that Reason had few qualms about the Guard being in DC for 4 months in 2021.

        3. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 months ago

          Are declining crime rates evidence of refusing to deal with rampant crime?

          In normal circumstances, no. But a lot of woke governors, mayors, DAs, and LEOs in the last ten years have made it very clear that they're going to be far more lenient on criminal prosecutions. That's how you get massive shoplifting epidemics that led to various stores closing in the wake of Fentanyl Floyd, guys with multiple charges being released to commit more crimes like murder, or even Nikolas Cruz being treated with kid gloves before he went haywire and shot up a school.

          It's pretty easy to claim that crime has dropped when you're not charging people for things, in the name of "soshul jizzizz," that your predecessors might have charged them with before. That's why no one takes these clowns or their media mouthpieces seriously when they say that crime has dropped, because people can see with their own eyes what's going on. Same as the claims that the economy was doing great in the last 4 years or that Pudding Brain was really sharp as a tack. It's gaslighting in the very literal sense of the term.

          1. sarcasmic   2 months ago

            I still wonder how much of that is real any how much is hype. I don't believe a word of partisan "news" from either side because they portray opinion as fact.

            And from what I've seen it is the presence of soldiers that is deterring crime. Which means that once they're gone it will be back to business as usual. So for soldiers to prevent crime, they must become a permanent presence. Last I checked, soldiers on the streets was not American. Quite the opposite. Then again, this is Trump's America. So I guess it doesn't matter anymore.

            1. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

              You say that, unit ALWAYS back democrat narratives and condemn republicans. So stop lying.

            2. TrickyVic (old school)   2 months ago

              ""Which means that once they're gone it will be back to business as usual.""

              You are making a good argument on why we need this kind of person off the streets permanently.

              1. debo10   2 months ago

                Absolutely!

            3. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 months ago

              And from what I've seen it is the presence of soldiers that is deterring crime. Which means that once they're gone it will be back to business as usual.

              Most likely, yeah. Like I mentioned there other day, there's videos of DC residents warning people to not get any ideas about wilding out after they realized the NGs weren't just there as window dressing. They really aren't fucking around and are doing what they've been told to do, which is help the DC police keep criminal activity suppressed. Once that ends, things will go back to their normal state pretty quickly.

              The political calculus here is that Trump manipulated his opponents into complaining about things like murders and other criminal activity falling. It makes them look like they care more about maintaining the dysfunctional status quo than actually fixing the problem (which pretty much applies to any urban social dysfunction, where NGOs and activists get paid very well to blow smoke and not accomplish jack shit), and also provides a chance to highlight how these same people sat back and allowed criminals to wild out, out of sheer spite against the "oppressor" boogeyman they're always concocting.

              1. sarcasmic   2 months ago

                The political calculus here is that Trump manipulated his opponents into complaining about things like murders and other criminal activity falling.

                Who said that? What people are complaining about is the military being deployed on domestic soil, and the only manipulators are those who falsely equate opposition to soldiers on the streets with support for violent crime.

                1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

                  You do realize DC is a federal district, under federal jurisdiction?

    2. But SkyNet is a Private Company   2 months ago

      “political advantage” is what all the people who aren’t killed or have their car stolen have?

      1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 months ago

        I know, right? Those citizens deserve to live in safety and security. So let's send the military to every major city to clean them up. Why not?

        1. Z Crazy   2 months ago

          What we REALLY need is Singapore-style justice.

        2. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

          Or just solve the problem, and get rid of you democrats.

  3. Gaear Grimsrud   2 months ago

    Have to say I agree with JD here. Trump is really pushing his authority. He'd be better off letting these shitholes collapse under their own weight. DC looks like a success to me. He should take the win and move on.

    1. Social Justice is neither   2 months ago

      We're talking about people who can't put cause and effect together unless it impacts them personally. DC going from shithole to mildly unsafe has no cause/effect to these people but national guard in limited areas hitting the news alongside decades long lows in car hackings and murders on their local news does.

    2. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 months ago

      The only reasons to send the Nasty Girls to these blue shitholes would be to protect federal assets, or if there was a riot going on a la Los Angeles in 1992 or the Fentanyl Floyd riots. The latter is particularly where Trump fucked up, because the level of violence more than justified it. But urban retards acting like urban retards isn't really reason enough to do so.

    3. Incunabulum   2 months ago

      I agree.

      But the idea that what Trump is doing is unprecedented or that it would be unpopular - only with the people not actually affected by crime.

  4. chemjeff radical individualist   2 months ago

    Hey guys! Have you heard that crime in DC is now virtually non-existent? What a terrific success story! Sending in the military to do police work really paid dividends! Let's copy the same idea to every major city, why not?

    1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 months ago

      NO, it's more indicative that DC residents are such low-impulse control morons that it takes the presence of federal troops to get them to realize people aren't fucking around, and that they need to settle down for a while.

  5. Heresolong   2 months ago

    Interesting that reducing violent crime and drug use in the inner cities leads to "political advantage". Why exactly would that be the case remains unclear.

    I also agree that if the residents of cities like Seattle and Portland are either OK with the state of their cities and/or continue to believe that the horrible condition has nothing to do with Democratic rule, they should be left to wallow in their filth. Instead, publicize the positive results from DC, where Trump has an absolutely Constitutional right to intervene. Of course, it seems that Reason opposed that one too, so perhaps it's not about political advantage.

    1. Thoritsu   2 months ago

      Not one bit. Mid terms are here, and withholding funding to sanctuary cities linked to increases in crime from inaction, not federal funding were about to the a main theme. Need a new plan now.

      Not even subtle.

    2. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 months ago

      I also agree that if the residents of cities like Seattle and Portland are either OK with the state of their cities and/or continue to believe that the horrible condition has nothing to do with Democratic rule, they should be left to wallow in their filth.

      Exactly. Pigs never think there's anything wrong with their pigpens.

  6. Thoritsu   2 months ago

    There is zero doubt that crime in the cities was set to be a midterm issue, supporting the Democrats who caused it by inaction, and would blame it on withholding funding due to sanctuary status. If you don't see right through this, you may need a guardian.

    JD, are quite right, this should never have happened; it is overreach; and it will come up when someday they pass a federal rule on the color of firearms. However, we are LONG past that point. Political federal action has been openly rampant since ... Obama. Don't even start about some subtle, obscure thing Regan or FDR did. Obama was the beginning of open weaponization of government, starting with the IRS and 501(c) tax-exempt status, where Lois Lerner's phone was wiped six seconds after she turned it in.

  7. Social Justice is neither   2 months ago

    Tuccille arguing for maintaining high levels of assault, theft and murder to maintain Democrat "political advantage" is fairly disgusting. Maybe don't intentionally turn your cities into 3rd world hellscapes if you don't want limited intervention from others doing your job of protecting your citizens.

    1. sarcasmic   2 months ago

      If you don't want soldiers roaming the streets then you support violent crime.

      False dichotomy for the win!

      1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

        Interesting mental leap. Please explain how you managed it.

    2. Wizzle Bizzle   2 months ago

      Yeah, I think this is the entire problem with the argument. Stopping the violent crime sprees in the blue cities, getting the druggies off the streets, closing the border spigot. This is all Quality of Life 101. Everyone agrees on this stuff, except the evangelical Democrats who hate the guy who will get credit for doing it, and the Reason LP that wants all of the libertine and none of the consequences.

      You can rightly criticize some of the ways Trump does things. But your obvious disdain for law and order does make it all ring a bit hollow.

      1. sarcasmic   2 months ago

        There is no deprivation of liberty, violation of the law or of the Constitution that Trump defenders will not cheer, so long as they feel it hurts people they hate.

        1. Z Crazy   2 months ago

          What about the right of the people to feel safe?

          By the way, ever heard of Katie Abraham?

          https://johnkassnews.com/pritzker-and-dems-play-russian-roulette-with-american-families/

          1. TrickyVic (old school)   2 months ago

            Some people can't think because Trump lives in every molecule in their brain.

            Perception of safety matters probably more than stats to many people. You don't care about stats when you hear stories of your friends getting robbed or hurt.

            1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 months ago

              Perception of safety matters probably more than stats to many people.

              Oh I would agree with this. But what happens when the demagogues manipulate perceptions of safety for their own political advantage? For example, they might deliberately overstate the amount of crime there really is - by pushing anecdote after anecdote - in order to present themselves as the saviors who will "keep you safe". How might this type of manipulation be prevented?

              1. sarcasmic   2 months ago

                For example, they might deliberately overstate the amount of crime there really is - by pushing anecdote after anecdote - in order to present themselves as the saviors who will "keep you safe". How might this type of manipulation be prevented?

                What you described is what Democrats do with regards to "gun violence" to get public support for gun control laws.

                When Trump overstates crime and pushed anecdotes about illegal immigrants in order to get public support for sending federal agents across the country and to deploy soldiers in major cities, it's not the same thing.

                It's completely and totally different. Not even comparable. The difference is who is doing it. You're forgetting one of the cardinal rules of Trumpism: disregard all principles and instead judge everything by who, not what.

                1. TrickyVic (old school)   2 months ago

                  ""What you described is what Democrats do with regards to "gun violence" to get public support for gun control laws.""

                  Exactly, but you had to blow it with the Trump hate.

                  ""When Trump does overstates crime and pushed anecdotes about illegal immigrants""

                  This isn't from Trump. It's from NYC, and it makes sense that NYC residence SHOULD be pissed. One city, spending billions.

                  "The 2025-26 Enacted Budget Financial Plan indicates the State plans to spend $4.3 billion between State Fiscal Year (SFY) 2022-23 through SFY 2026-27 for emergency spending related to people seeking asylum in the United States."

                  https://www.osc.ny.gov/reports/asylum-seeker-spending-report

                  1. TrickyVic (old school)   2 months ago

                    """"What you described is what Democrats do with regards to "gun violence" to get public support for gun control laws.""""

                    And I think we are about to see some of this.
                    Shooting at Catholic school in Minneapolis

                    https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/minnesota-catholic-school-shooting-minneapolis-updates/3815837/

                    1. Michael Ejercito   2 months ago

                      ...but crime is at historic lows!

              2. TrickyVic (old school)   2 months ago

                "" But what happens when the demagogues manipulate perceptions of safety for their own political advantage?""

                Like climate change? Food insecurity? Housing insecurity?

                It's nothing new in politics. The citizens get the final say via their vote. If it goes to far, then they vote for someone else.

              3. But SkyNet is a Private Company   2 months ago

                lol., you fvckin retard, blue city democrats are deliberately UNDERSTATING crime stats, and we have the proof.

                GFY, you gaslighting dullard

                1. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

                  True, NYC got caught with their hand in the cookie jar.

                  https://nypost.com/2025/03/19/us-news/nypd-transit-commander-demoted-for-allegedly-faking-subway-crime-stats-victimized-the-victim/

            2. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

              Some people can't think because Trump lives in every molecule in their brain.

              Coincidentally enough, two of the biggest clowns affected by this posted in reply to you without being self-aware enough to understand the comment.

  8. Uncle Jay   2 months ago

    "We Don't Need More Federal Intervention in U.S. Cities."

    Right, you are Mr. Tuccille.
    The city fathers of Chicago, Los Angeles, Detroit, etc. are quite correct in defunding the police, allowing violent criminals run rampant, and demanding more of our hard earned tax dollars so they can establish do-gooder programs that have failed consistently down through the decades.
    Besides, terrorizing good decent hard working denizens of their communities is always good idea.
    It separates those who are willing to put up with all the leftists' bullshit in power and those who will leave demonstrate they are not worthy of staying in such wonderful places.
    So, notify the White House, and tell Trump we don't need your federal troops.
    We love our violent crime, our violent criminals not to mention all the crooked politicians and clueless judges who coddle our beloved miscreants.
    After all, law, order, and a peaceful community is a fascist community.

  9. MollyGodiva   2 months ago

    Crime in the US is at historic lows. Trumps military occupation and the next occupation has nothing to do with crime. It is about Trump’s fascism.

    1. TrickyVic (old school)   2 months ago

      Rememeber this?

      ""A series of recent, high-profile crimes in the New York City subway system prompted Gov. Kathy Hochul on Wednesday to send National Guard members into the sprawling underground network.

      Hochul is ordering a force of nearly 1,000 people, comprising 750 National Guard members, state police and transit officers, to conduct bag checks at some of the busiest stations.

      The effort, Hochul said, is intended to "rid our subways of people who commit crimes and [to] protect all New Yorkers whether you're a commuter or a transit worker."""

      https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/gov-kathy-hochul-sending-national-guard-members-new-york-city-subways-rcna142063

    2. TrickyVic (old school)   2 months ago

      https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/trio-beats-slashes-and-robs-man-in-broad-daylight-near-the-astor-place-cube-nypd/ar-AA1Lgx5Z?ocid=msedgntp&pc=DCTS&cvid=c2063b24f12849b78b08b7f1b9e0e8aa&ei=35

      Broad daylight in a very public place.

    3. TrickyVic (old school)   2 months ago

      https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/nypd-searching-for-man-suspected-of-shooting-upstairs-neighbor-in-brooklyn/ar-AA1LfYQM?ocid=msedgntp&pc=DCTS&cvid=68af1547bb2e47a197a1f0ba1e7d9037&ei=12

      1. MollyGodiva   2 months ago

        None of your replies is relevant to the topic at hand, which is the president using false pretext to order a military occupation of US cities.

        1. TrickyVic (old school)   2 months ago

          The relevancy is that claiming historic lows don't mean shit when crime is happening to people.

          You are claiming his pretext is false, without merit.

          1. MollyGodiva   2 months ago

            Crime will always happen. Statistics and trends matter greatly. A fascist military occupation of cities is always the wrong answer.

            1. Z Crazy   2 months ago

              Was it fascist when Eisenhauer sent the National Guard to Littlerock High School during the integration?

              Was he just supposed to let the Klan shoot up the place? It wouldv'e been worse than Columbine!

              1. TrickyVic (old school)   2 months ago

                He sent the 101st Airbourne.

            2. TrickyVic (old school)   2 months ago

              ""Statistics and trends matter greatly."'

              Only to the bean counters. Your sense of safety has a lot about what you hear, and what you see in the media. No one will feel safe on the subway when someone is set on fire. Doesn't matter what the trends are.

              I doubt gov Hocul regrets sending the national guard in the subway system. I doubt she sees it as a fascist move.

            3. But SkyNet is a Private Company   2 months ago

              fAsCiSt MiLiTaRy OcCuPaShUn!

              Can we not get a better quality of dissidents here?

              1. Chumby   2 months ago

                Molly is a racist retard.

    4. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

      Kill yourself.

  10. Moderation4ever   2 months ago

    Using the National Guard to patrol citiies, what could go wrong? Answer: Kent State.

    1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 months ago

      But see, any consequences of sending the military to patrol cities will occur in the future, which doesn't matter to MAGA. They only really care about the here and now. They can derive advantage right now by "cleaning up DC" so they will do that. Who cares about the precedents? Who cares about what Team Blue may or may not do in the future? Live for today, man!

    2. sarcasmic   2 months ago

      Dude, they killed hippies. Trump defenders don't see that as wrong. After all, hippies are leftists and Trump defenders like it when leftists die. And if Trump's soldiers kill anyone it will be criminals, illegals or leftists who, as far as Trump defenders are concerned, deserve to die. His defenders will celebrate.

      1. MollyGodiva   2 months ago

        You correctly left off the /s.

    3. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 months ago

      Glad you agree that sending troops to Little Rock was wrong, too.

      1. Z Crazy   2 months ago

        It seems some people think that Eisenhauer should have just let the Klan shoot up a school for having too many (as in one) black kids!

        1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

          There’s more than usually gets talked about with Little Rock Central High School. It was one of three high schools in the city at the time. Another was Horace Mann High School which was the black high school, and the third was Hall High School, opened as the second white high school in town and catered to the elites. Central was for the plebs. What’s notable is that neither Mann nor Hall were forced to be integrated at the time, just Central. How much of the complaining and protesting had to do with the fact only Central was chosen for integration and not all three high schools, especially Hall High School?

    4. Incunabulum   2 months ago

      And Little Rock was wrong too?

  11. Z Crazy   2 months ago

    What we REALLY need is Singapore-style justice!

    1. MollyGodiva   2 months ago

      There is no problem where the solution is fascism.

      1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 months ago

        Because to marxists, anyone who doesn't let them do whatever they want is fascist.

        1. MollyGodiva   2 months ago

          Political scientist Dr. Lawrence Britt recently wrote an article about fascism ("Fascism Anyone?," Free Inquiry, Spring 2003, page 20). Studying the fascist regimes of Hitler (Germany), Mussolini (Italy), Franco (Spain), Suharto (Indonesia), and Pinochet (Chile), Dr. Britt found they all had 14 elements in common. He calls these the identifying characteristics of fascism.
          The 14 characteristics are:
          1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism
          Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.
          2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights
          Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of "need." The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc.
          3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause
          The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial , ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.
          4. Supremacy of the Military
          Even when there are widespread domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized.
          5. Rampant Sexism
          The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Opposition to abortion is high, as is homophobia and anti-gay legislation and national policy.
          6. Controlled Mass Media
          Sometimes to media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation, or sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in war time, is very common.
          7. Obsession with National Security
          Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses.
          8. Religion and Government are Intertwined
          Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed to the government's policies or actions.
          9. Corporate Power is Protected
          The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite.
          10. Labor Power is Suppressed
          Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely, or are severely suppressed .
          11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts
          Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education, and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free expression in the arts is openly attacked, and governments often refuse to fund the arts.
          12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment
          Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses and even forego civil liberties in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations.
          13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption
          Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions and use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders.
          14. Fraudulent Elections
          Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against or even assassination of opposition candidates, use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and manipulation of the media.
          Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections.

          Trump hits all 14.

          1. sarcasmic   2 months ago

            Looks like a blueprint for MAGA.

            1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

              Looks like a study guide for a grievance studies course.

              1. sarcasmic   2 months ago

                Yes I know you support all of those things. Especially 2, 3, and 12.

                1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

                  Cite, asshole?

            2. Chumby   2 months ago

              Tell us about Ashli Babbitt, you drunk that put hands on your child resulting in a CPS visit. Tell us about Ashli.

              1. SQRLSY   2 months ago

                Chumpy-Humpy-Dumpy Simp-Chimp-Chump; DR... DeRanged... Did SNOT Read, for fear of cunt-aminating my brain, spirit, and soul!

                Please do SNOT give me a soiled soul, Evil One!

              2. MollyGodiva   2 months ago

                Babbitt was a violent traitor who got better than she deserved.

          2. JohnZ   2 months ago

            Poly- Sci professors are mostly Marxist. Indoctrination into Marxist theology is their main attribute.
            Every single item on his list can be thoroughly disputed.
            It's no wonder America's higher institutions are now regarded as indoctrination/brainwashing centers instead of schools for higher learning and reason.

            1. MollyGodiva   2 months ago

              You could try to dispute them all, but it would make you look like an idiot, especially items.2, 3, 4, 7, 10, 11, 12 and 13.

              1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

                Care to offer a link to the article?

                1. SQRLSY   2 months ago

                  LAZY good-for-nothing piece of UBER-LAZY fascist-defending crap!!! I rapidly found THIS: https://ratical.org/ratville/CAH/fasci14chars.html ... Anyone can find for You (You PervFected and Mind-Infected, Sanity-Deflected Fake Genius and Sea Lion) all OF THE SUPPORT IN THE WORLD, and YOU would reply that "The Lizard People faked the moon landing! ALL of the SMART people like MEEEE already KNOW that!"

                  Pervfected people are hopeless!!!

              2. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 months ago

                Yes, the question-begging bullet points of marxist professors should always be taken seriously. Especially when they refuse to turn that particular critical lens on their own marxist fellow travelers.

              3. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 months ago

                Also Britt wasn't even a political scientist. He was a novelist whose real name is Laurence W. Britt, not Dr. Lawrence Britt. The list was peddled to market his stupid novel, "2004," which had the same old bog-standard comparisons of Republicans to fascists that you retards have been claiming since Truman. Even he said the description of him as a Dr. was inaccurate.

                If you're going to be citing 20-year old Redditard posts as authoritative, at least be aware of the origination of your stupid appeals to authority.

                1. sarcasmic   2 months ago

                  Now that you have thoroughly attacked the person who wrote the list, do you think that any of those things apply to the current administration, and if so do you find that to be a positive or a negative?

                  1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

                    Seriously, ass clown? You know damn well it’s just fine to take into account the author and his/her beliefs.

                  2. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 months ago

                    All those talking points are nothing more than the bog-standard complaints the left was making in the mid-2000s about the Dubya-era US. It's a collection of strawmen and circular reasoning, most of it re-microwaved complaints by the left that date back to the end of World War II.

                2. But SkyNet is a Private Company   2 months ago

                  That would mean the NPC would have to deviate from his program

          3. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 months ago

            Because to marxists, anyone who doesn't let them do whatever they want is fascist.

          4. sarcasmic   2 months ago

            Judging from the responses, Trump defenders find all of those things to be positive.

            1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

              Were you dropped on your head as a baby or something?

              1. Neutral not Neutered   2 months ago

                Fell down the stairs too many times and his parents didn't have the heart to tell him to where a helmet when he got on the short bus.

          5. TrickyVic (old school)   2 months ago

            ""1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism
            Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos""

            Build back better?

            ""2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights
            Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of "need." The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc."

            Like the cheering of the assassination of a CEO, or being not happy because the bullet didn't kill a presidential candidate?

            ""3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause""

            MAGA as enemy and Trump is being treated like Goldstein in 1984. Alot of people love some Two Minutes Hate with regards to Trump. They can't get enough.

            ""4. Supremacy of the Military
            Even when there are widespread domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized.""

            FDR? America's commitment to defend the world?

            "5. Rampant Sexism"

            Two words. Bill Clinton.

            ""6. Controlled Mass Media""

            We were just repeating what the Whitehouse told us to say about Biden's mental health.

            ""7. Obsession with National Security
            Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses.""

            Full body scans for everyone flying by plane, and to enter some federal buildings

            ""9. Corporate Power is Protected
            The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite.""

            This sound more like a socialist complaining.

            ""10. Labor Power is Suppressed""

            Also sounds like a socialist complaining. Labor is not being suppressed. People should not be forced to join a union. Unions falsely claim they are labor. Long ago companies benefited from unions as unions help provided skilled labor. The teachers union has done nothing to help kids learn but has done much to make schools expensive to staff.

            ""11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts"

            Dave Chappell would like a word with you.

            ""12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment""

            Like when you create novel theories to go after one person?

            When things get bad, people want change. Some democrats did an about face on defund the police. Like when the NY gov sent the national guard into the subway system.

            ""13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption""

            Nothing acknowledges that better than I'm going to pardon family and friends for crimes unknown.

            ""14. Fraudulent Elections""

            What fraudulent election?

            1. TrickyVic (old school)   2 months ago

              What missing is the desire to control little things like if a store can give you a plastic bag, or under what rules can a restaurant give you a straw. How many ways must I sort my garbage?

              1. TrickyVic (old school)   2 months ago

                Currently the answer to the last question for those who don't live in NYC is four.
                Regular garbage, plastic, paper, food waste.
                .

                1. Neutral not Neutered   2 months ago

                  Which is a good thing despite it being a pain in the ass.

            2. MollyGodiva   2 months ago

              Anecdotal items over years makes fascism not. Blatant, everyday examples and massive trends is what makes fascism.

            3. SQRLSY   2 months ago

              Yes, we already know... Demon-Craps did shit first and worst, so Dear Orange Leader can do TWATEVER HE WANTS, and shit will be OK!

              Hang Mike Pence! Execute General Milley! And MUCH more, but just for now...

              https://www.salon.com/2021/04/11/trumps-big-lie-and-hitlers-is-this-how-americas-slide-into-totalitarianism-begins/
              Trump’s Big Lie and Hitler’s: Is this how America’s slide into totalitarianism begins?

              The above is mostly strictly factual, with very little editorializing. When I post it, the FACTS never get refuted… I only get called names. But what do you expect from morally, ethically, spiritually, and intellectually bankrupt Trumpturds?

              Totalitarians want to turn the GOP into GOD (Grand Old Dicktatorshit).

              https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/24/politics/trump-election-warnings-leaving-office/index.html
              A list of the times Trump has said he won’t accept the election results or leave office if he loses.

              Essential heart and core of the LIE by Trump: “ANY election results not confirming MEEE as Your Emperor, MUST be fraudulent!”
              September 13 rally: “The Democrats are trying to rig this election because that’s the only way they’re going to win,” he said.

          6. But SkyNet is a Private Company   2 months ago

            Less so than Biden, by a long shot.

            Sexism goes both ways. The "toxic masculinity" people are the real sexists

  12. Bowerick Wowbagger   2 months ago

    We need local governments and police to do a much better job protecting individual’s physical safety and property rights. Many fail in these basic responsibilities

    1. Neutral not Neutered   2 months ago

      Yup. Stop voting in democrats and the problem will greatly reduce.

  13. JohnZ   2 months ago

    One could dispute every single one of that overeducated/overpaid baby sitter.
    Allowing criminals to walk free, allowing uncontrolled immigration and defunding police do not make a safe environment, Just ask the people of the U.K. where one can be arrested for defending their family. https://www.zerohedge.com/political/scottish-girl-arrested-using-knife-and-axe-ward-migrant-stalker
    Or when the absurd is pushed to even more absurd levels: https://www.zerohedge.com/political/female-students-seeking-bathroom-privacy-required-fill-out-mental-health-accommodation

    The so called professor of higher learning should burn his PHD and resign. He should never be allowed to spread his leftist b.s. anywhere.

    1. MollyGodiva   2 months ago

      So a fascist military take over of cities is what you want? You see no other possible solution to the problem that does not exist?

      1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

        You’re making a false dichotomy where none exists, Goebbels.

      2. TrickyVic (old school)   2 months ago

        There are plenty examples in Afghanistan and Iraq of what a real military takeover of a town by US military looks like. And it's not going on in DC.

      3. JohnZ   2 months ago

        The only "fascism" that was forced on Americans was during the covid hoax hysteria.
        Lockdowns, forced social distancing, forced masks, schools closed, forced vaxx ( deadly and ineffective) loss of employment, and inflation. Tens of thousands of small businesses destroyed.
        Then the fascism of Woke/DEI.

      4. Neutral not Neutered   2 months ago

        No because this is not a fascist takeover. And no because the locations where crime is out of control and murders continue including innocent children are where the democrats have defunded the police, told police to stand down, created no cash bail, prosecutors do the bidding of George Soros and not the constitution.

        The democrats are the problem, and people like you keep voting them in.

  14. Incunabulum   2 months ago

    It is very easy to say that Tucille, when you live in a safe part of a safe city in a safe part of the country.

    Nobody in Phoenix or northern Arizona are going to be rioting any time soon and the level of violence even in Phoenix is pretty low.

    But Chicago has as many murders in a weekend as Phoenix has in a year. The people in DC seem to be kinda happy that they've managed to go a week without a murder. People who live in shit holes want a little security and no, federales walking around is not trading off liberty for it.

  15. Incunabulum   2 months ago

    >Who will be blamed when Guardsmen untrained for the job, or federal immigration agents, step out of line and commit serious constitutional violations?

    The feds aren't going to do that and the Guardsmen are going to be doing what they do in DC - guard facilities to free up fed cops and walk a beat to be seen.

    And, frankly, givent eh failures of local government, some feds breaking some teen heads in another 'takeover' might be a good thing.

    1. JohnZ   2 months ago

      Just imagine though what may happen when some idiot decides to open fire on one or more of those guardsmen. It's not a matter of if but when.
      I hate to think of it but the world we live in now where radicalization by the MSM has created numerous riots, looting, burning and destruction in recent years.

      1. Neutral not Neutered   2 months ago

        What will happen? The idiot will be shot. No different from being shot if the idiot opened fire on police.

  16. Neutral not Neutered   2 months ago

    By Trump bringing in much needed additional law enforcement to secure the streets and make them safe for citizens, he is only doing what the local leadership failed to do. This is not political, it is law enforcement.

    The democrats made law enforcement political when they told them to "stand down" and would not allow them to actually do their jobs.

    Democrats made law enforcement political when the prosecutors decide to not charge the perps after being brought in by police.

    The democrats made law enforcement political when the with no cash bail and not working with ICE and creating sanctuary states and cities.

  17. TJJ2000   2 months ago

    True. Unless the State Legislature approves.

    Article IV; S4
    The United States shall ... protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened) against domestic Violence.

  18. BlueCollarCritic   2 months ago

    Just be honest and say we can't let this happen b/c we must not allow Trump a win or to be correct about anything. A return to establishment run governance (and not having someone the people elected ) is a MUST! No what we need is more federal bailouts for these cities built we'll call them "investments' To fool the peasants so they don't realize it's just more federal bailouts of incompetently run Democrat cities.

    Even if you guys at REASON were genuine and that's very debatable these days, you have so ruined your own reputation in your attempt to deal with your own Trump Derangement Syndrome that you've pushed away most of the trust you had previously built up and maybe that's a good thing so we now know you were prop-establishment, pro-corrupt governance all along.

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