The Department of Energy Just Admitted Climate Change May Not Be Catastrophic
A report affirms that greenhouse gases are warming the planet, but it also found no convincing evidence that U.S. hurricanes, tornadoes, floods, or droughts have become more frequent or intense in recent decades.

A new report from the Department of Energy concludes that, yes, the climate is changing and humans contribute to it—but no, it's not necessarily the impending catastrophe we've been warned about. In another era, an agency charting this kind of middle course would be unremarkable. Today, it feels revolutionary.
The debate over climate change and responses has become so polarized that acknowledging the problem of human-driven warming without accepting a narrative that can sound apocalyptic invites attacks from all sides. I understand that the findings are controversial and hope climate scientists debate every detail. Considering the upside of getting this issue right, you would think more people would encourage open debate.
That is exactly what led energy analyst Travis Fisher of the Cato Institute to return briefly to the administration and help organize the Climate Working Group, which generated the report. Like many of us who read from outside our ideological circles, Fisher was frustrated that many members of the left treat climate-crisis dissent as a thought crime, while many on the right still dismiss climate change as a joke.
Fisher was initially hesitant to return to government service after a bruising prior stint. He was won over by Energy Secretary Chris Wright's stated desire to follow the data and inject more hard evidence into the conversation. Wright's plan was simple: "Elevate the debate" by gathering a team of credible, often-overlooked, independent experts to critically review the state of climate science—without political filters—and publish the results openly.
Five scientists were chosen by the energy secretary. They are all highly credentialed and have decades of research under their belts. Importantly, they were given complete freedom over their conclusions. One need not agree with the Trump administration's overall climate policy—such as the dismissal of the 400 volunteer scientists preparing the next congressionally mandated National Climate Assessment—to recognize the legitimacy of this new report and its small group of authors.
What does the report say? In a nutshell, as Fisher puts it: "Climate science—let alone climate policy—is far more nuanced than the summaries for policymakers (produced by previous government efforts) would have you believe."
The report affirms that greenhouse gases are warming the planet but tempers several claims. For example, the authors found no convincing evidence that U.S. hurricanes, tornadoes, floods, or droughts have become more frequent or intense in recent decades, despite what you'd gather from headlines. This debate will continue, as it should, with many related dimensions to consider. But at least there is now high-profile evidence on record to give a say to reasonable experts who disagree with other more alarmed perspectives.
The Department of Energy report's authors also find that the planet's warming is unlikely to cause as much economic damage as is commonly claimed, in part because they believe past projections have been too extreme—something the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change and other mainstream climate scientists have recognized in recent years.
Another finding in the report is that drastic policies meant to reduce warming could do more economic harm than good, and that even the most heavy-handed climate policy can't make much of a difference. Even if we eliminated all U.S. emissions, the authors argue, it would have an "undetectably small" effect on global temperatures. Far from denying climate change, this perspective puts it into context and reminds us that sometimes the strongest medicines can hurt more than the disease.
None of this is to say that the report has all the answers or that other more worried scientists should not be heard. That's exactly the point: There should be an ongoing debate. Insisting that "the science is settled" implies that only one narrative is allowed and downplays other important conversations about the effects and scale of the challenge.
So, while some self-styled science defenders try to silence any dissenting view, one of the authors of the new report, Judith Curry of Georgia Tech, rightly notes that "any scientist that isn't skeptical isn't doing their job….The 'mainstream' attempt to enforce a faux consensus to support political objectives is antithetical to science." A healthy process welcomes scrutiny and disagreement, which should help sharpen the work of any conscientious expert.
For better or worse, the study is already having an impact, with the Environmental Protection Agency citing it in a proposal to reconsider the federal government's 2009 finding that greenhouse gases endanger public health and welfare. That will mean legal fights, lots of criticism—and more debate.
This report—the first of many of its kind, I hope—shows that it's still possible to respectfully and professionally confront entrenched dogma. It takes experts and people in power who are willing to be challenged or erroneously smeared as deniers. That's no small thing. I also hope the result is a climate policy crafted from facts, whatever they might be, rather than fear.
For that to happen, others must insist that open debate guides the response. And more importantly, we must all tolerate the debate.
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While this might be step in the right direction, it fails to address the fundamental flaw in so-called "climate policy" - that no scientist now alive has the tools to accurately model climate change causation, anthropogenic or natural. The federal government should never have even gotten involved in assessing climate change in the first place, let alone try to impose regulatory mandates on human enterprise in the absence of clear and convincing scientific evidence that those regulations would achieve or even contribute to the desired outcome. So appeasing the skeptics by half-way concessions is counterproductive any way you look at it.
"The Department of Energy Just Admitted Climate Change May Not Be Catastrophic."
1. The US does not need a Department of Energy.
It's a needless, expensive and onerous bureaucracy that needs to be terminated.
2. Climate change is bullshit just like global cooling as well as global warming was.
Only a complete morons and quack scientists believe in climate change.
"" Climate change is bullshit""
The concept that climate is static is bullshit. The concept that climate change is solely caused by man is bullshit.
The Northern half of the US is no longer covered by glaciers is because of climate change.
How cruel of you to point that out!
YEah, saying "climate change is bullshit" is silly. Climate change is real, and could have negative (and positive) consequences. Whether and to what degree human activity contributes is debatable and largely irrelevant. We aren't going to stop the rest of the world from developing and using fossil fuels and even if we could the downsides are enormous and the benefits dubious.
Cambridge climate policy critic William Connolly is correct in observing that:
“if you can’t imagine anything between “catastrophic” and “nothing to worry about” then you’re not thinking“.
Yes, and shits like you have been pushing "catastrophic" for the past 30 years.
It's not a wolf; it's a small dog and you don't want it peeing inside. No need for the military.
You're delusional :
https://reason.com/2008/07/23/carbon-based-prohibition/
It does however need an atmospheric and oceanic administration , because America has a great deal of both.
Cue climate bullshitters on Trump's payroll axing NOAA because of the sheer inconvenience of having public servants tell the truth.
One would think over 40 years of non-stop wrong predictions would have already done that.
A science with no predictive value is useless.
Nope, not useless. It provides all the justification they need for more funding for more study about the settled science.
Moar money needed for training!
But trust economic models that have been wrong for 100 years. - Boehm, probably
Directionally, the predictions have been spot on for forty years. Some models have overestimated the changes and some have significantly underestimated it.
No, not really. And saying "Yes, I predicted a 3 degree increase and it went up by .003 degrees, ergo I am correct" seems more than a bit non-scientific.
" saying "Yes, I predicted a 3 degree increase and it went up by .003 degrees, ergo I am correct" seems more than a bit non-scientific."
Except that that is not a true statement, but a three order of magnitude lie.
Science predicted whole-degree-per-century warming, and that is what we got.
we are coming out of an ice age stupid. of course the climate is warming.
Why do you imagine it commenced warming faster as fossil fuel consumption surged after 1750??
Translation: Yes, repeat, no.
"Directionally, the predictions have been spot on for forty years."
Straw-grasping is a watermelon skill.
It wasn't that long ago the climate was freezing and the-man was making a new ice-age.
Maybe all the 'experts' should get de-funded since they don't seem to be an 'expert' on anything but contradicting themselves.
That was never close to being a consensus view. And if smoke pollution had not been curtailed by regulations, it could have ended up having a significant cooling effect.
Oh. So more smoke pollution needed now for global warming?
There are people who seriously suggest pumping sulfur dioxide into the upper atmosphere to cool the planet.
Sounds like they need better things to do to fill out their day.
A massive consequence of the ?free?-$ for do-nothing all day.
Too much time to invent problems out of thin air to fill that missing gap of self-importance.
Where have you been for the past 198 years ?
https://vvattsupwiththat.blogspot.com/2014/10/climate-wars-salt-talks.html
Not eating loads of wanna-be chicken-sh*t dictators "The sky is falling!" fantasy stories.
Consensus =/= Science
That was never close to being a consensus view.
Neither is the current view.
And if smoke pollution had not been curtailed by regulations, it could have ended up having a significant cooling effect.
And yet in our current climate alarmist view pollution traps heat and creates the newly popular 'heat domes'.
Pollution isn't just one thing. Some may trap heat near the surface, others may increase cloud cover, reflecting more sunlight back to space.
but the science was "settled". A new ice age was coming
It still is, but it will take over 100,000 years to arrive. You can read all about it, in the free Harvard School of Engineering & Applied Sciences course that Sevo is afraid of flunking.
https://courses.seas.harvard.edu/climate/eli/Courses/EPS281r/Sources/Glacial-cycles/Milankovitch-cycles-Wikipedia.pdf
But all the smart people Lying Jeffy insists are entitled to my money said it was?! I’m so confused.
The earth is headed out of the last glacial maximum, which was well before SUVs, outdoor pizza ovens, and gas appliances.
Yeah but that climate data can be cut-off the Nazi-Propaganda chart. If its not shown it doesn't exist! /s
Just like they cut-off the WWII period. The fastest climate cooling period ever seen while more CO2 was dumped than ever before/after.
They're trained 'Experts' of cherry-picked deceitful propaganda.
We have nothing to worry about because Trump axed NOAA and turned off its radiative forcing satellites before the first hurricane hoax of the season.
We have less to worry about since people are beginning to accept shits like you are chicken littles and the sky is not falling.
Fuck off and take your fake web site with you.
We’re in a period of warming much faster than any post-glacial effect.
Are you carbon neutral? If so, how are you achieving this?
No, we're actually not. Or more precisely, there is no credible evidence that the recent rate of change is statistically different from the pre-industrial rate of change when corrected for land-use changes.
See here:
“Unsettled”, Steven Koonin
“Apocalypse Never”, Michael Shellenberger
“Climate Uncertainty and Risk”, Judith Curry
“Fossil Future”, Alex Epstein
“Power Hungry”, Robert Bryce
“False Alarm”, Bjorn Lomborg
And then fuck off and die, watermelon
And then fuck off and die, watermelon
Directed at aajax, not Rossami.
So they've finally come around to admitting humans contribute to climate change. Is that a step forward or backwards ?
No one argues that climate change does not occur. The argument that was snuffed out was whether humans have any influence on climate change. This is when the spin and lies began, fueled of course by a pissed off for losing the Presidency Al Gore decided to take control of science.
Sadly there was no evidence presented to back up the assumption humans are contributing to climate change.
The only assumption that can be made is hypothetically humans contribute an additional 3% of CO2 to the atmosphere per year so hypothetically humans may contribute to 3% of the earth's warming that hypothetically has occurred since the beginning of the industrial revolution through the increase of Atmospheric CO2 witnessed.
We know correlation does not prove causation and therefore assumptions that CO2 has caused the earth to warm could easily be false.
The correlation that the earth's warming is due to solar cycles, the procession of the equinoxes and the Milankovich cycles is more likely.
But there's no power through fear, crisis or paychecks in that way of thinking...
And of course wealth distribution is impossible without gaslighting people into believing CO2 is going to boil the oceans after they envelope the majority of the coastal regions and islands.
The virtue signaling point of the global warming/climate change was to generate capital and force private industry to develop cheap means of renewable energy to give to nations without electricity to bring them out of poverty.
Sadly if they just ran fund raisers to support these nations then the technology would most likely be further along and people might be buying higher efficiency solar panels by now.
Oh, dear This is so full of logical and arithmetic fallacies.
Oh, dear, what a lying pile of lefty shit.
At the oil industry's 100th birthday party 1959 Edward Teller said :
“Ladies and gentlemen, I am to talk to you about energy in the future….this, strangely, is the question of contaminating the atmosphere… Whenever you burn conventional fuel, you create carbon dioxide. …. it is transparent, you can’t smell it, it is not dangerous to health, so why should one worry about it?
Carbon dioxide has a strange property… it absorbs the infrared radiation which is emitted from the earth. Its presence in the atmosphere causes... a temperature rise sufficient to melt the icecap and submerge...coastal cities…
Since a considerable percentage of the human race lives in coastal regions, I think that this chemical contamination is more serious than most people tend to believe.”
Cue usual suspects spouting expletives while pointing at squirrels in their echo chamber
Cue the regular chicken little shits spewing the same failed predictions, this one from 66 years ago.
Fuck off and take your fake web site with you.
The prediction was bang on, and here is the data that proves it , as cited by , among others, Koonin & Curry:
https://openknowledge.fao.org/items/3ad69d37-395b-4485-9c4d-5067c283409a
You must be talking about the climate/weather changes religion fallacies.
Seriously. How bloody dumb does a person have to be to believe put-puts from a 2L engine has any chance at competing with million acre forest fires, volcanoes, etc, etc???
Go ahead and worship your sun-god all you want. Just keep the 'Guns' (Gov-Guns) out of it. Not everyone wants to worship your sun-god conspiracy theories that keep getting proven wrong over and over and over again.
Woo ! Woo !
I gots ten dolla sez the AAjacker sock cannot differentiate a constant, much less define energy, state the dimensions of its units of measure--or even convert Fahrenheit to Celsius without a calculator and cheat sheet.
I gots twenty you never laid hands let alone eyes on a copy of any of the climate reports the DOE's vanity press "Critical Review" was assembled to assess.
Read it and weep:
https://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2025/08/critiques-of-the-critical-review/
I'll bet you never read any of these and if you did, you cannot tell us why THEY and not chicken littles like you should be directing policy.
“Unsettled”, Steven Koonin
“Apocalypse Never”, Michael Shellenberger
“Climate Uncertainty and Risk”, Judith Curry
“Fossil Future”, Alex Epstein
“Power Hungry”, Robert Bryce
“False Alarm”, Bjorn Lomborg
Fuck off and take your fake web site with you.
Because I know Steve Koonin and worked with him on extinguishing the Kuwait Oil Fires — you do realize your lede climate guru used to be Chief Scientist of British Petroleum ?
specifically what are some of them?
please read the Real Climate critique- it's short and to the point
You are essentially correct. More importantly, there is no valid model that proves whether increasing atmospheric CO2 is a cause of, or a result of, global warming. Even more importantly, if you look at a chart including ALL of the known reservoirs for carbon and carbon dioxide in the earth system and ALL of the complex interactions between and among them it is obvious that water, earth and atmospheric temperatures are both outputs and inputs for almost all of those complex cycles, emphasizing most forcefully that this is a chaotic system that cannot ever be modeled with a linear analysis and, therefore, no prediction of outputs can ever be reliable beyond about ten iterations of the model, no matter how complete and accurate the original inputs might be.
You've clearly never run the numbers for yourself or you'd blush at the inanity of your conclusions- do the math.
Trump's department of energy. Was this before, during or after our "two front war on science"?
How dare you question the sea level predictions od King Canute's anointed successsor:
https://x.com/RussellSeitz/status/1955155871404581236/photo/1
Weren't the most prosperous times in prehistory always the warm periods? Has anyone ever addressed why this time would be different? I don't follow climate science/politics.
It would be different this time because the capitalist pigs would hoard all of that wealth?
They sure as slot-machines would not be loaning out capital to fund bird-choppers, solar panels or wishful-thinking-generators to light cities. The South Texas Nuclear Project reactors now generate power for industry and civilization and pay NRG dividends at WAY higher than bank interest rates. Every warmunist blackout adds value to nuclear industry stocks and bonds while smartening up chumps.
As opposed to kings and nobility hoarding all the wealth.
thats (D)ifferent
"Weren't the most prosperous times in prehistory always the warm periods?..."
Yes, abundance of food, lower food prices and, for most of history, more ag workers to harvest the bounty.
Even then and certainly now (except for solar and wind) less is spent on fuel and clothing keeping warm.
Solar and wind are extremely expensive, unreliable, adjuncts to reliable power converters (eg: NG, and petroleum or coal).
Pretty sure it is Curry who details the actual (not the subsidized) costs of 'renewables', including the huge footprints required for anything like real power from them, and then points out the need for reliable sources since the wind doesn't blow all the time (or blows too hard) and the sun's over the horizon for ~12 hours every day. And there are "clouds"!
I'll bet those are surprises to public imbecile and aajax>
"Weren't the most prosperous times in prehistory always the warm periods?...
Yes, abundance of food, lower food prices and, for most of history, more ag workers to harvest the bounty.
Even then and certainly now (except for solar and wind) less is spent on fuel and clothing keeping warm."
Then the Flintstones ruined it all by tossing Alley Oop's brontosaur on the barbie.
A report affirms that greenhouse gases are warming the planet, but it also found no convincing evidence that U.S. hurricanes, tornadoes, floods, or droughts have become more frequent or intense in recent decades.
Wait, so if it is warming the globe but not making persistent seasonal and inter-seasonal weather patterns more chaotic, shouldn't we go back to "Global Warming" and not "Climate Change" or would warming without change give people a more "warm weather" or "Warm and Comfortable" feeling and we don't want that?
Non-Catastrophic Anthropogenic Global Snuggling? Anthropogenic Global Sunbathing?
no, it's not necessarily the impending catastrophe we've been warned about.
The 'impending catastrophe' was always fear mongering about a 1.5C change. That was always a political number not a projection of what temperature increases might realistically settle at. We've already hit the 1.5C mark a year or so ago. We haven't hit a 'real' limit yet - where people will take action seriously because the CURRENT temps create problems.
My guess is we won't hit a real limit until 2C or 2.5C - which is roughly when some areas (Persian Gulf, maybe Houston or Gulf of Caifornia) become virtually uninhabitable. And from that point - it will take another 1C or more until temps settle.
Is there some reason to believe temperatures will settle?
I assume CO2 levels will stabilize at levels well below a runaway Venus effect. I would expect commenters here to deny all possibility of warming until their faces literally melt. But they'll be dead soon.
"... I would expect commenters here to deny all possibility of warming until their faces literally melt..."
I would expect JFucked to make such and asinine statement. Fuck off and die, asswipe.
There can not be a runaway effect, because the marginal effectiveness of carbon dioxide as a greenhouse gas decreases at higher concentrations.
TY. I
Slept through Chem, but the reading list below corrected any misconceptions I had, as did your post.
I assume CO2 levels will stabilize at levels well below a runaway Venus effect.
And there you have it. The whole global warming scam began when they got the data back from the Venus missions and determined the temperature and composition of the atmosphere. 95% carbon dioxide atmosphere, no magnetosphere and much closer to the sun. But Carl Sagan, among others, decided that Venus must have been like Earth and something "went wrong".
The problem is celebrity scientists.
Does that mean we should trust the climate scientists who took Sagan to task for hyping "nuclear winter"?
Physicists assure us that entropy is bound to prevail eventually. But their timescale is way longer than those of When-Jesus-Comes fascisti or Come-The-Revolution commies.
Bow down and worship the Gov-'Guns' against those icky people.
For only 'Gun' gods can change the weather!
And anyone had to wonder how Nazi's got so stupid.
They still are.
Houston + 2C is roughly the average temperatures of Mexico City - which, the last I checked, was pretty well inhabited.
Humans evolved in the tropics, not the Artic. If these models and projections were accurate (they aren’t even close), and there actually were that much warming, we’d be just fine.
Maybe a minor point. But the report is titled “ A Critical Review of Impacts of Greenhouse
Gas Emissions on the U.S. Climate”. Apparently it does not address global climate issues, or specific areas of particular interest such as polar regions. That is strange, if not suspicious
Maybe it should just address the Bible huh?
It proves that the end-of-mankind will be at the 2nd coming of Christ. The experts have graphs and charts and theories that predict if we don't 'Gun' down the porn stars polluting our planet the end-of-mankind will be in 1994, er um 1998, er um 2001, er um 2011, er um 2033?
Yeah no joke. You sun-god worshipers have been bumping your "earth is melting" 2nd coming for 1/2 a century now with EVERY ONE being 100% FALSE. That is not 'science'. That is 'religion'/'faith'.
Maybe aajax will tell us the date of the climate rapture!
Maybe aajax should pay a visit to the painted desert or New England and some of the many kettle ponds created by receding glaciers.
aajax, read these and get back to us with detailed criticisms of the facts presented:
“Unsettled”, Steven Koonin
“Apocalypse Never”, Michael Shellenberger
“Climate Uncertainty and Risk”, Judith Curry
“Fossil Future”, Alex Epstein
“Power Hungry”, Robert Bryce
“False Alarm”, Bjorn Lomborg
Or simply admit you are a watermelon, incapable of dealing with reality.
I'm guessing the later.
And don't forget the timeless books of Climate Depot guru and Climate Egytptologist Marc Morano,
https://vvattsupwiththat.blogspot.com/search?q=Egypt
Sharknado Warmunism relies on anonymous "reports" rather than fabled "scriptures" for its sources of superstition. Observe that their data is fake, frequently counterfeited in varying versions, and advanced by generally unnamed scientist impersonators funded by predatory government agencies. More at http://www.realclimatescience.com
National Socialist conservatives win elections by rejecting energy hatred, focusing instead on reefer madness and race suicide hate memes.
Aww, that's adorable. The special ed kids finally crossed the finish line.
LOL.... Best comment of the month +1000000000.
For years you've been able to find admissions at NOAA that global warming wasn't making storms more frequent or worse, you just needed to know where to look, because they sure weren't making them easy to find.
Do shoe us where.
Read something other than the NYTs, chicken little:
“Unsettled”, Steven Koonin
“Apocalypse Never”, Michael Shellenberger
“Climate Uncertainty and Risk”, Judith Curry
“Fossil Future”, Alex Epstein
“Power Hungry”, Robert Bryce
“False Alarm”, Bjorn Lomborg
Now fuck off and take your fake web site with you.
“the climate is changing and humans contribute to it” Did anyone seriously deny this, or did they deny “human-driven warming”?
Because those are two different statements.
True enough, but there are two other drastically different statements:
1) If we don't give up control of the economy to the government and end the use of fossil fuels now, the world is gonna end in 10 years!!!!!!
2) Mankind has a minimal effect on the environment which is changing at a very gradual rate, and a great ability to adapt to the minimal changes occurring. Which might well reverse, as they have over history.
Vote for #2.
Absolutely #2, and it’s not even close.
And the votes for #2 are amazingly lacking in cites! Why might that be?!
Because Sevo doesn't do fact checking and believes that not doing arithmetic is the key to understanding .
Here:
“Unsettled”, Steven Koonin
“Apocalypse Never”, Michael Shellenberger
“Climate Uncertainty and Risk”, Judith Curry
“Fossil Future”, Alex Epstein
“Power Hungry”, Robert Bryce
“False Alarm”, Bjorn Lomborg
Now fuck off and take your fake web site with you.
And the models in all your cites are amazing inaccurate, consistently failing to both forecast and hindcast global temperatures (which is a massively fudged figure anyway) accurately. So, the IPC just averages these inaccurate projections together.
The reason that you have so many articles supporting CAGW, etc here in the US, is that the research is almost completely funded by the federal government, and the bureaucrats controlling the funding are, for the most part, true believers. It’s never been Science. Rather it’s always been politics and progressive dogma.
To all who live in the Southern Hemisphere, the "human contribution" lie is a obvious a fraud as the Bozone Layer hysteria blaming hairspray for chlorine erupted by Antarctic volcanoes. Oranges are planted in CA, TX, CA and AZ at the same latitudes as 50 years ago. Coffee is no longer planted in Paraná, Brazil, but would be today if Sharknado Climate Cooking weren't a measurable fraud. Conservatives ban plant leaves then screech about "crime!" Fabian socialists ban energy then whine about high bills & blackouts!
The EPA Endangerment Finding only looked a climate change DANGERS.
.
If you look at climate change BENEFITS, it seems as though the benefits outweigh the dangers.
.
Not looking at the BENEFITS makes the Endangerment Finding worthless.
It's the same fraud that sold deadly force wars by reefer madness and cocaine fiends movies. 1) Ignore failed attempts to ban gin and tobacco and use those industries' fear of competition to shore up new lies. 2) Rely on insinuation and fearmongering rather than easily falsifiable falsehoods. 3) Bully or bribe the media into amplifying the hysteria. The techniques that blamed Jews for failure elevated Hitler. Similar blame-drugs hysteria elected Hoover, Nixon, Reagan, Bush² and now Orange Hitler--all of them free-market capitalist-impersonators!
Next up, John Stossel on the benefits of low-cost, gluten-free carbon fiber submarine hulls for Titanic tourism
Sharknado Warmunism is 65 years old. It started out as Soviet anniversary surrender propaganda to the effect that capitalist weapons cause Sharknados. CHICOMS seen a useful meme and took their chances backing it. Even Donald Trump has sense enough to spot this--especially after PetitionProject.org upended all such superstitious nonsense back in Kyoto days. https://libertariantranslator.wordpress.com/2017/06/09/soviet-anthropomorphic-climate-change-1960/
Finally, some sanity. The Earth has been both warmer and cooler than it is now and life continued. My objection to the “end is nigh” climate activists is their utter failure to even acknowledge that past “gloom and doom” predictions failed to come true. Is the climate changing? Yes, as it always has. Are we a factor? Most likely yes. Is it the end of the world or even a net negative? No. Increased CO2 is actually good for life on the planet since all life depends on it. We need to acknowledge this and move on.
You are hereby sentenced to reeducation at the nearest non-authoritarian alligator-infested razor-wire camp in an undisclosed tropical location. You would clearly benefit from electric shock stimulated updating of your world view and waterboard-heightened attitude adjustments.
The report is a scientific laughing stock. Beyond being padded with PR cliches, it sports more substantive errors of fact - over a hundred at last count , than it has references.
https://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2025/08/critiques-of-the-critical-review/
It does not help that two of the authors subsequently retracted the data on which they based their denial of a global warning trend in 1990, and a third served as Chief Scientist of British Petroleum.
a third served as Chief Scientist of British Petroleum.
Oh, well, then, he must be wrong. That's just logic.
I could have sworn I learned in Logic that ad hominem is an illogical attack and a fallacy, but I am sure you know better.
"...but I am sure you know better..."
I'm not.
Examine Steve's bibilography , and you'll find he is by no stretch of the imagination a climate scientist
Here's the page by page fisk of his not-very Critical Review :
https://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2025/08/critiques-of-the-critical-review/
THAT's the best you got? An unreadable poster, showing one page which may have misleading data and one with a mistake out of 120?
No wonder you're such an unreliable source for anything at all; Koonin would be embarrassed to have offered such shit as would I.
"An unreadable poster" ??
That's the lede illustration, doofus—
Read the bloody text!
some credentials are more equal than others
The bulk of the Earth's plant life has increased by 30% in the last 35 years. You won't hear that on the news. Climate change is the best thing to happen to life since... well... since the last thing that happened that was better than that.
A variant on the gaslighting list is:
What we vociferously asserted in the past wasn't what we meant. However, we confidently mean what we are saying now. But what we are saying now is provisional and may change based upon what we are told in the future.
This isn't a knock on Science, it is a knock on Scientism.
BTW, all of the authors in the above list are (or have been) active in the field and have authored many papers within the published science, but unfortunately also critical of the distortion of the scientific data; the output from the UN IPPC is bad enough, but then it is massaged before it is turned over to news outlets (meaning aajax and public imbecile) to bias the predictions toward the most catastrophic possible result. Which tells you why none of them has ever gotten close to reality, and leaves lying piles of shit like aajax to claim 'they are directionally correct':
"damikesc
No, not really. And saying "Yes, I predicted a 3 degree increase and it went up by .003 degrees, ergo I am correct" seems more than a bit non-scientific."
Thank you.
It is that sort of scientific dishonesty, and in some cases (far too many) outright lies which prompted those authors to publish those books, in some cases to the detriment of their careers because of lying shits like aajax and public imbecile.
It does however need an atmospheric and oceanic administration , because America has a great deal of both.
Cue climate bullshitters on Trump's payroll axing NOAA because of the sheer inconvenience of having public servants tell the truth.
Steve Koonin has never claimed to be a climatologists, and cites only his popular, Dallas- published book in the DOE review,
"...Steve Koonin has never claimed to be a climatologists, and cites only his popular, Dallas- published book in the DOE review..."
So you pick one author who worked in computer modeling and sniff that he's not a 'climatologist', ignoring the fact that his critique of your propaganda has to do with your fudging the data and misuse of computer modeling in order to push your watermelon cause.
"...In late 2013 I was asked by the American Physical Society [...] to lead an update of its public statement on climate. [...] I convened a workshop with a specific objective - to "stress test" the state of climate science.
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For my part, I came away from the SPS workshop not only surprised but shaken by the realization that climate science was far less mature than I had supposed
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In short, the science is insufficient ti make useful projections about how the climate will change over the coming decades. much less what effect out actions will have on it."
The rest of the ~300 pages goes on to set out, in detail, why he is convinced charlatans like you are cooking the books.'
Fuck off and take your fake web site with you.
Please read at least some of the listed books. I read all of them, they are worth it. Anyone not a watermelon should do with one or two, assuming they are honest (which is a stretch); they are not.
I wanted to refute aajax (a watermelon) and his cohorts as is the slimy pile of shit Public Imbecilie to make sure that the information is available.
Yes, it will require you to READ BOOKS, but if you are so imbecilic, that makes it difficult for you, you deserve what you get.
Do tell us the title of the atmospheric science textbook that informed your decision to read the other six?
Shitstain, why would one title of a text do so? Do you presume we'd all search for some bullshit supporting your bullshit?
And why would "the title of the atmospheric science textbook" mean something, "appeal to authority", slimy pile of shit. Please tell us of how avoiding reading any of them keeps you posting your lies.
Or tell us if, and a slimy pile of shit, you continue to avoid reading those who point out you are a slimy pile of shit.
Fuck off and die and take your fake web site with you, asswipe.
BTW, tell us of the books referenced above and your DIRECT disagreements with the facts stated therein.
I see this is, as a slimy pile of lefty watermelon shit, that is beyond you.
Fuck off and die, asswipe.
I've already linked that critique twice.
Is it to correct to infer from your lack of a textbook that you have never taken or passed an atmospheric or climate science course?
More appeal to authority, and not one reply to the facts that are pretty consistent in all of those books; specifically, that the published accounts and predictions are wildly overstated and that shits like you continue to support them with (such as you just did) an appeal to authority.
Fuck off and take your fake web site with you, shitstain
The only real question raised by the propaganda tracts you favor is why are you afraid to read critical reviews of them?