Why Trump Can't Make the Epstein Story Kill Itself
Ginned-up mobs don't love nuance!

On Wednesday night, five top Trump officials—Vice President J.D. Vance, White House Chief of Staff Susie Wiles, Attorney General Pam Bondi, Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche, and FBI Director Kash Patel—reportedly planned to meet at the Vance residence to discuss the administration's handling of the Jeffrey Epstein files. That meeting was ultimately rescheduled, and according to CNN, Trump advisers are hopeful that the MAGA base's furor over the administration's botched handling of Epstein is dissipating.
That remains to be seen: Thus far, Epstein has been the rare subject where Trump-friendly commentators in alternative media do not automatically take the president's side. Joe Rogan, Matt Walsh, Tim Pool, Andrew Schulz, Tucker Carlson, Candace Owens, and others have all criticized the administration's approach.
Yet Trump has proven remarkably adept at grinding down wayward right-wing pundits' willingness to resist him. In the immediate aftermath of the January 6 riot, even staunchly Trump-loyal conservatives leapt to condemn the violence at the Capitol and Trump's role in it. After four years of Trump steadfastly maintaining that he did nothing wrong—and fuming at any Republican who says otherwise—few prominent conservatives are still willing to blame the riot on Trump. If I had to guess, I'd predict the Epstein story will be the same: Eventually, Trump's contention that it's a fake issue planned by the Democratic Party to ensnare him will prevail in the MAGA verse. You'll see the notable conservative podcasters echoing Trump's line about a plot by James Comey and Barack Obama and opposing Democratic politicians' calls to release the files. Just wait.
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In the meantime, it's worth keeping in mind two things. First, Trump has actually been remarkably consistent on the Epstein issue. During the 2024 presidential campaign, Trump maintained that releasing the files was not a particularly high priority and that he was worried about maligning innocent individuals whose names happened to be associated with the disgraced financier and sexual predator. It was Trump's prominent surrogates—Patel, Vance, Dan Bongino, and others—who made rigid commitments to release information on Epstein's alleged clients. And it was Bondi who claimed, after taking office as A.G., that she was in possession of a client list and would be releasing it. It's those people who are being hypocritical about this, not Trump.
Moreover, Trump is not exactly wrong! As independent journalist Michael Tracey has exhaustively documented on his Substack, hyperbolic claims about Epstein's supposed clients are routinely exposed as false: Many of the alleged victims lacked credibility and recanted their accusations. People who are obsessed with the Epstein story don't like hearing this, but while Epstein was undoubtedly a sexual abuser and a creep—and Ghislaine Maxwell facilitated his predatory behavior—there simply isn't compelling evidence of a larger conspiracy involving many other powerful people whose names have been hidden from the public. By some measures, the Epstein story resembles other recent sex-based moral panics, like campus sexual assault and sex-trafficking, in which a kernel of a true idea (i.e., more could be done to stop sexual assault at elite colleges, or poor immigrant women are sometimes forced into compromising sexual situations), is embellished and overdramatized (i.e., campuses are literal hunting grounds, children are constantly being kidnapped and sex-trafficked at airports).
But once you've ginned up a mob, it can be difficult to explain to the mob that the situation isn't as crazy as it seemed, to please chill out, and that there's nothing really to see here. Surely, Trump knows that by now.
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C.J. was just crying about the admin moving Maxwell to a different prison after meeting with the DOJ.
“That meeting was ultimately rescheduled, and according to CNN”
Please stop.
So, to sum up: it isn't actually a big deal, and once the fervor dies down, people will let logic prevail, but then they'll be derided as MAGAts?
It should all be released, but maybe the Obama/Clinton treason should take precedence now.
I think there are probably enough people working at the justice department to do both. Releasing it all should take one person about 5 minutes.
Courts denied the request for a lot of the files. DoJ asked.
You supported Bush sacrificing Marines to slaughter innocent Muslims!! All so he could win reelection after failing to prevent 9/11! Shame on you!
Ginned-up mobs don't love nuance!
Fuck off, Robby. There is most definitely a coverup a foot by our government. Either Acosta covered for Epstein (bribe) or he was ordered by his bosses to let Epstein go for national security (CIA coverup or higher up got bribed). Eitherway someone in government protected a monster. Shake that tree and see what falls out.
I’m willing to consider there’s not a “list” of a bunch of powerful pedophiles (I don’t believe it, but I’m open), but someone decided that it was more important to let Epstein continue to launder weapons all over the world, and whatever else he was doing, than to stop him from raping girls. We need to know who that was.
I don't discount a list, either. I just think if you start at what is demonstrable true and build the case from there, you might just get to the whole truth.
Yeah that's the story. But international weapon laundering at the behest of intelligence agencies including the CIA is probably not prosecutable as a practical matter. And it wouldn't produce a client list.
Yep, Iran-Contra.
The most prominent politicians that are confirmed pedos are George HW Bush and Dennis Hastert…and the Bush family just happened to control both prosecutors involved in the Epstein prosecution. Do that math!!!
>>Ginned-up mobs don't love nuance!
hetero chicks don't either.
Ginned-up mobs don't love nuance!
To the book depository!
lolz
Why does anyone think Trump's trying to get the Epstein story to "kill itself'?
He's making the left demand it ALL be released. And the right. And the middle.
So no one gets away with what they've done. He wants them screaming for heads to roll.
The left, knowing full well that they're overrepresented, is doing just this --because they believe the lie they've been telling, that Trump's in there. They think it'll get him.
But it won't.
Because he's not in there.
But THEY are.
https://nypost.com/2025/08/06/us-news/ghislaine-maxwell-told-doj-trump-never-did-anything-concerning-around-her-report/
https://abcnews.go.com/US/trump-administration-considers-releasing-transcripts-doj-interview-ghislaine/story?id=124383957
Also a lot of the shit being demanded to be released is under judicial seal.
Is the same judiciary which is committing treason by issuing court orders against Trump?
The clients should be prosecuted. If that is to happen, publishing the evidence first is not a typical move.
Statute of limitations.
You have the information and know when each alleged incident took place as well as each statue of limitation? Where each/every/all has been exceeded?
Trump is not MAGA even though he has been the primary beneficiary. MAGA is actually quite reasonable in its central theme of America First before we are concerned with other people and nations.
Now that Trump has become even more MIGA (a submissive tool of the state of Israel), it's no surprise that many former supporters are speaking out.
The author knows that there is something to the Epstein scandal. I'm guessing that the ruling elitists have found some leverage against Trump and this is something that they don't want investigated. I don't believe that this leverage is that Trump is a pedophile or somehow implicated in the Epstein scandal.
It's like a switch flipped and the real Trump was switched out with a fake Trump.
Hey, you'd probably be friends with JFree, misek, sarcasmisek, and others. You'd all be able to hang out at a lake house.
Biden did a better job of implementing the America First agenda than Trump. The least #MAGA president in history was George W Bush whose goal was the make China great again…mission accomplished!!
"I mostly dislike the trend toward everything becoming super-duper open-world"
Nintendo is like, at least 10 years late the "open world" party but you would have thought they invented open world games based on the fans of their recent titles. Does the new DK also have towers you have to unlock to show parts of that map?
It's almost like Reason is using Epstein to distract from the Obama insurrection. Huh. But actually Robby does a fairly good job here. Multiple journalists and podcasters have taken deep dives into the story and the blackmail/client list doesn't fit the known facts. It would be helpful if the administration told the story as they know it with redactions to protect innocent 3rd parties. But that would require exposing intelligence agency operations going back to the Reagan administration. Epstein was a pedophile and he created an environment for the rich and famous to indulge that proclivity as well. But his incentive was not blackmail. It was to promote his international weapons business.
All of the Obama/Trump officials that orchestrated the coup are Bush Republicans!! Bush Republicans wanted to install Pence as president…why would Democrats want President Pence?? Btw, Gingrich believed he had enough dirt on Clinton and Gore to remove both of them which would have made him president.
So you're claiming nothing wrong going on there Robby? Or just that the victims are ONLY victims of Epstein in a "trafficking ring" with no clients or associates even though often they were legal employees free to do as they wanted if not always under US law. You really aren't that stupid are you...wait, I remember your Rolling Stone hoax reporting and your retardation during the Kavanaugh hearings so this tracks.
Kavanaugh is why Bush Republicans lost interest in removing Trump…Kavanaugh was Bush’s right hand man and Trump wanted to pull his nomination. Bush called Collins and ordered her to vote for Kavanaugh which is what got him through the Senate.