Why Are Students Using AI To Cheat? Maybe Because They Shouldn't Be In College At All
AI cheating is often a crutch for students ill-equipped to attend a four-year university.

AI cheating is endemic in high schools and colleges. Stories proliferate showing just how many students unashamedly use AI programs like ChatGPT and Gemini to do their academic work for them, whether that's completing math homework or writing entire essays. But why is this happening? Here's one underrated factor: many students may be turning to AI because they can't handle the academic rigors of college, and are turning to large language models like ChatGPT to hide their deficiencies. That, mixed with old-fashioned laziness, could be driving the proliferation of AI cheating. For both situations, the solution may be less college education, not more.
What does laziness mean? Well, plenty of students who are clearly capable of handling college-level work still use ChatGPT and other AI models to do their school work. In one recent article, Hua Hsu, a staff writer for The New Yorker, interviewed several NYU students who openly admitted they use AI to cheat on assignments.
"We had to read Robert Wedderburn for a class," one student told Hsu, (Wedderburn was a 19th-century Jamaican abolitionist). "But, obviously, I wasn't tryin' to read that." Instead, the student told Claude, a large language model developed by Anthropic, to turn the reading into "concise bullet points."
Another student told Hsu about an art history class, saying, "I'm trying to do the least work possible, because this is a class I'm not hella fucking with."
Like many young people, these students aren't so much interested in obtaining a college education as a college degree. They don't believe higher education has much to offer them, and are cynical credentialists, jumping through the necessary hoops in order to get a diploma that will open doors to the work they actually want to be doing.
For the lazy credentialists, they may actually be right that college has little to offer them. There are plenty of fields for which college is a pointless credentialing exercise. If someone has the coding chops to start a job in tech or finance at 18—or the writing skills and curiosity to become a journalist—forcing them to suffer through four years of additional, costly education only wastes time and money.
On the other hand, there are the students who don't have the academic skills to succeed in a four-year university without serious help. These students are likely a significant portion of the young people enrolled in college, and many of them will ultimately drop out, considering one in three college students fail to graduate after six years. In 2022, for example, just 22 percent of students who took the ACT college entrance exam scored high enough to be deemed college-ready, yet 45 percent of graduating high school seniors immediately enrolled in a four-year college.
How serious is the situation? A 2024 study found that 58 percent of English majors at two Midwestern universities could not understand the opening paragraph of Charles Dickens' Bleak House well enough to read the book on their own. And again, these were students who specifically chose to major in English. According to the study, incoming students at both schools had an average ACT reading score of 22.4 out of 36 points, which is actually above the college readiness benchmark of 18.
In the study, participants frequently indicated that they could not read complex texts without outside help, such as SparkNotes, which goes to show that AI is only the latest and most effective crutch for struggling students.
"If I was to read this [Bleak House] by itself and didn't use anything like that [SparkNotes], I don't think I would actually understand what's going on 100% of the time," one student told researchers. Another said that she would read Bleak House by "skim[ming] through most of the novel and read[ing] only certain passages in detail."
These students are harmed by colleges—especially dying liberal arts colleges and second-tier public universities—desperate to fill seats in order to stay open. These schools happily take students' tuition dollars (often in the form of loans), despite ample evidence that they need serious academic remediation. Some of these students would surely have been academically prepared to attend college had they received a better high school education, but at any rate, remediation ought to be done in low-cost community colleges, not four-year universities.
For these students, it's hard to imagine that they could successfully complete their degrees without help from a tool that can summarize and simplify texts for them. But while sites like SparkNotes have existed for years, AI is able to actually write essays for these students as well as explain texts.
The students who won't use ChatGPT, though, are the ones who believe they actually need to be educated and who are drawn to genuine intellectual inquiry. These students get something out of a college degree, both because it confers skills they did not already have and because they have the academic aptitude and interest to seriously grapple with complex text or high-level math. For these students, writing the essay or working on the practice problems is the point—not a useless hurdle to what they really want to be doing.
Fundamentally, though, just about anyone can be tempted by laziness. Instituting serious punishments for cheating would also go a long way to deterring AI cheating. Even so, the dominance of ChatGPT in college life is no more inevitable than college student mediocrity is inevitable. AI cheating is just another symptom of declining educational rigor—coupled with grade inflation and test-optional admissions.
In order to get rid of AI cheating in college, universities would need to shift from credentialing machines to places of genuine inquiry. To do that, capable young people need access to good-paying jobs without a college degree. And for those who stay, college needs to get a lot more difficult.
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You know who else cheated?
A certain Emma Camp?
On a serious note though, a smart student that understands that progress matters will use the tools that are available, and will use AI.
An even smarter student will understand that nobody cares about the degree and experience always wins - and drop out, to use AI ever after. So in a sense, Camp is right.
And for technology-scared, defeated, obsolete, stale right-wing rejects? They will never be in the position to cheat at all. Not in college, not at home. They are just too unappealing to go any places.
Sure buddy. I likely have far more formal education than you, and am way more successful. That probably goes for all the other “technology-scared, defeated, obsolete, stale right-wing rejects” here too. And we are not defeated. You are. You lost in November, and continue to lose now. And the hits keep on coming.
You might want to self deport before things get real fucking bad for you.
I see the stale right-wing reject has been triggered tremendously. No wonder, the selective intuition of modern, educated, smart young women works in their perfect disfavor. The white hijabs imposed by the defeated right - christianity, conservativism, wealth clinging, rewarding mediocrity - have been rejected by an emergent, stronger, less white, WINNING demographic. Your billionaire leader and his broken, cronyist doge appointee are currently demonstrating to the last person that they are not interested in solving any problems but those relating to the consistency of large cash flows into their wallets.
Your little four figure tax return impresses nobody in the advanced, modern, technology-aware world outside of outer jesus land and modern, smart, young, dynamic individuals will continue to CURB STOMP the stale face of conservative obsolescence. The final twitches and moans emitted by the lessers are of no concern to your betters.
Carry on.
Lol. Same, word for word comment in multiple threads. Talk about stale.
Victory is forever just around the corner for you, fiddy. Your young heroes are too occupied with idiocy like queers for palestine and “gender fluidity” (lol) to be effective at anything at all. And then they will grow up, as they must, and will realize that stale old creeps like you are pathetic losers.
Haha. You’re useless, old man.
He’s stupid, weak, and unimaginative. Typical of a leftist.
Arty, you and your fellow travelers are losing so badly that you’re in a free fall. And Marxist assholes like you have pissed off the general public enough that McCarthyism is coming back,
Best you sit down, shut up, and learn to obey. Or else things are going to get real fucking bad for you.
Back in my day we didn't have AI to cheat. We called the churning out of uninformed, shallow copy of other people's ideas and the quasi-hallucinatory depictions of half-realities things like; "reporting" and "journalism".
You were reading "Fear And Loathing In Las Vegas"?
No need for some fancy analysis and statistics.
If you want to learn, you won't cheat, because that would be admitting to yourself that you haven't learned what you claimed to want to learn.
If all you want is the certificate, you will cheat.
The problem is making the certificate so all-fired important when 99% of its uses are for virtue signalling.
That is literally the core thesis of the article.
It may be virtue signaling now (I can't say), but until recently it was about signaling that you could put up with years of irrelevant shit. It was an employment screen that worked, albeit very inefficiently and with low fidelity.
As a teaching adjunct, I put a little effort into catching cheating, but not much. I wasn't going to stand against that tide.
Is it cheating or is it learning life skillz?
It is cheating at learning life skills.
We should at least admit that whatever these students do now - they will do it the rest of their lives.
Cheating is a life skill, ask any sports coach.
Or any politician or bureaucrat.
Or businessman/contractor.
Except cheating is a life skill.
On the other hand, I was at a technical college from 1966 to 1970. Years of math, law, English, sciences, and all that jazz. All it got me was the ability to apply for an IT job* ("degree required"). But I got the job, and from then on it was "tell me about your experience" not "tell about how you got your degree".
*in those dark ages, there were not yet computer science degrees.
A 2024 study found that 58 percent of English majors at two Midwestern universities could not understand the opening paragraph of Charles Dickens' Bleak House well enough to read the book on their own.
Of course, they had Chaucer and Wuthering Heights down pat. Obviously the solution is to have ChatGPT translate this stuff into "modern" English.
Just another blessing of Commie-Indoctrination camps for kids.
You can bet your *ss that if people had to PAY for education they would care about getting something from it.
Like many young people, these students aren't so much interested in obtaining a college education as a college degree.
Young people aren't to blame for that. That is what employers demand - a credential not some amorphous assessment of what a 'college education' means. Michael Spence won a Nobel in 2001 for his work on market signaling in the job/labor market. This exact topic. It is employers who have created that system - and eliminated the alternative system which would be to hire people out of high school and train them via apprenticeships/etc. Employers who have created two-tier employment where some employers offer jobs that go nowhere but hire out of HS - and other employers offer good jobs but that require a degree to get hired for entry level.
No, you need to go back a step. Why do businesses want that degree?
Because it's objective and can't be easily blamed on racism, sexism, etc. If hiring was based on interviews, it would be all to easy to tie the employer up in a lawsuit, and more importantly, the government bureaucrats would smell blood to be had, prestige gained, money well-spent, and bureaucrats well-employed, and plenty of excuses to hire more bureaucrats, spend more money, and write better (ie looser) regulations to make it easier to ensnare more companies.
Government is always the root cause.
Except, with you, it's Jews. I know you'll find some way to blame the Jews.
We Joos are responsible for all the bad in the world!
Not all, just disproportionately. Muthfuckas wanted to lynch muh black ass but it wuz de boss man who ended up swingin' on de end of de rope.
^THIS +1000000...
"Government is always the root cause."
As you so well explain. Employers wouldn't require the Gov Status Symbol had the Gov-Guns not created that monopoly through legislation in the first place.
Could you imagine what the internet would be today had the government done protocol dictation (ex: DoEd standards) instead of ISO, W3C, etc? It would still be ARPANET with 90,000 pages of binary-diversity attached). The free-market always creates the perfect balance between standards and actual need for those standards. One could literally say that allowing Supply and Demand to work without Gov-Gun packing holier-than-tho dictators / gimmie,gimmie-criminals in is precisely what the American Dream is all about.
The only humanitarian asset a monopoly of 'Guns' (Gov-Guns) has the ability to provide is to defend Individual Liberty (against those trying to enslave) and to ensure Justice for all.
It is a contradiction and serious injustice to put those 'Guns' into a position that does supply ... because 'Guns' don't make sh*t. People do. That kind-of use of 'Guns' are only there to enslave people. Flipping the very purpose of them on their head from humanitarian asset/order to criminal deeds.
That is what employers demand...
It's what high schools tell young people they have to have. There's no woodshop, autoshop, or any trades in government schools. There's no afterschool work programs. There's no real drive for STEM in HS.
There's two generations of people who think they are smarter than a tradesman because they went to college, but work as a barista with $100,000 in loans.
High schools are also part of that credentialing pipeline here in the US. Woodshop, autoshop, and similar work in HS should be tightly aligned with what employers of those trades want/need. In most countries, that level of education has a multi-track system. In Germany, everyone starts at the Grundschule (for four years or so). Next is Hauptschule or Realschule or Gesamtschule or Gymnasium. There are certainly problems with tracking kids so early but it does allow for the slew of work options that an advanced economy needs to have filled. In the case of Germany, about 50% of students end up in some sort of formal apprenticeship (ausbildung) training - through either the Hauptschule or Realschule tracks.
A German-style system in the USA would result in liberal arts higher education students being all Asians, Jews, and a few "whites". That would not be tolerated.
At my local school there is a class in woodworking/ building. They built a nice little home and garage.
That's something we did not have in high school although we had wood shop, auto shop and even FFA. The girls had FHA.
FFA/Future Farmers of America
^think they are smarter than a tradesman because they went to college.
Or maybe humans are naturally curious enough to learn without some indoctrinating over-lords trying to shove it down their throat and the very force-fullness of the over-lording is precisely what has killed that curiosity in the first place.
Explain why the high school in my town has a robust technical school for kids who want to learn trades.
Explain why Democrats want to shut such places down.
Cool. Do they offer introduction for A&P/ airframe and powerplant?
It might behoove some schools to offer pilots training if feasible. The local community college Traverse City Northwestern College offers pilots training all the way to a commercial certificate.
I see lots of 172 Skyhawks in the sky sometimes.
Employers should be offering coursework that is a valuable specialty for them. Too many just suck on the teat of public school and get surprised that HS aren't providing enough free milk for them
""Employers should be offering coursework ""
At who's expense?
So robust .... Its 90% mandatory Commie-Indoctrination and a 10% left-over time option to actually learn something useful? You'll just keep making excuses for Commie-Indoctrination camps for kids until the sun doesn't shine. "Look! Look! Everyone! A needle in the haystack!" /sarc
It wasn't the outlawing of competency tests to see if somebody qualified for a job?
You wanna really make the claim?
The Griggs v Duke Power case is exactly the opposite of what you seem to assert. Not a surprise that it is alt-right racists who desperately cling to credentialing as a way to perpetuate racist hiring. But in the case of most employers, it is sheer fucking laziness - not racism.
Reason always picks the worst examples.
I can be an intellectually rigorous person and still not give a fuck about parts of my distribution courses.
What? You might not care about your African Lesbian Feminist critiques of Capitalism class that's required? Crazy talk.
Shots fired at Autumn.
Guns of August (again)?
I told my kids that college is not going to teach you a profession. College is going to teach you the jargon that is required to work within that profession.
Seriously, when I interview somebody, I look for a command of the language they need for their daily work. And Excel skills, which demonstrate the ability to follow logic.
Getting a degree in ChatGTP will not get them a job. Quite the contrary, it will cripple them, probably for the rest of their life, because they will not understand the jargon.
Getting a degree in ChatGTP will not get them a job.
"Why, your prompts look like something from last *month*!"
Why can’t someone learn the jargon and go to college? I don’t understand the point you’re trying to make
Why read the text when there's a glossary at the end of the book?
I liked annotated editions.
The classes I took for electronics taught me the basics and advanced but... the real education was out in the field or at the bench rather.
Although I did put in a few years as manager/ tech for a small CATV system.
A student ill equipped for a real degree or real life, majors in a non-sense degree and uses AI to write their papers for a large part of their grade, passes and attains their degree in non-sense, and moves on in life with no skill set but 100-200k in govt subsidized debt.
This is just helping to highlight how useless higher education as a whole has become. The students are there for what essentially amounts to their hang-over daycare, the teachers are there to indoctrinate nonsense, and its all funded by us.
Get the govt completely out of the student loan business. The nonsense degrees will instantly vanish, as there is no market-backed reason for them to be there.
And most smaller colleges would vanish. They're going to put up a fight to stay alive.
The smaller colleges could easily change course and become more technically/ trades oriented.
"Why Are Students Using AI To Cheat? Maybe Because They Shouldn't Be In College At All«"
As an og among og commenters, I must say this is the most fuck yeah headline I've read here in 5 years.
That may be the case but it could also be half the classes shouldn't be taught, let alone required for a whole host of students. If you're a CS major wouldn't getting chatGPT to write competent papers to pass your comparative feminist literature requirements be a sign of intelligence, competence and proper priority setting instead of shouldn't be in college?
It's an odd coincidence that all Bachelor degrees all take four years. Engineering? Math? All STEM fields? Sure, no real argument. But English lit? Polisci? Just arbitrary to fit the STEM time frame. And woke classes? Pure nonsense, no sense.
Most engineering programs are five years.
But most of the first 2 years are jammed with non-engineering classes.
A 2024 study found that 58 percent of English majors at two Midwestern universities could not understand the opening paragraph of Charles Dickens' Bleak House well enough to read the book on their own.
Huh.
For reference:
Dickens was actually trying to write a tourism ad for the British Virgin Islands. This seemed a bit wordy, so he went in another direction.
I heard he was hired to write ad copy for Pepto Bismo or something like that.
Imagine if Hunter S. Thompson was writing such ads...
Cazart!
And not a full sentence in it!
But maybe they meant the opening paragraph of the preface, which is written in actual sentences — but heavily compounded ones that'd never fly today.
The story looks like a hoot, but something happened a few years later, whereby the popular authors adopted a much more straightforward style. I like Washington Irving, a contemporary of Dickens, but their writing is something of a headache compared to that of Arthur Conan Doyle, P.G. Wodehouse, or Edgar Rice Burroughs, for instance. Burroughs' writing makes the reader work hard too, not by having to parse difficult sentence structure, but by getting details presented in a suspenseful or elliptic way.
Burroughs had you learning new vocabulary.
Kreegah! Tarzan bundolo!
And employers like it that you, a prospective employee in, say, accounting, will pay for the first four years of your education in accounting, rather than have the employer bring you in as a four year apprentice and have to pay you.
>The students who won't use ChatGPT, though, are the ones who believe they actually need to be educated and who are drawn to genuine intellectual inquiry
You won't find these people outside of STEM degrees. No one who wants a liberal arts *education* would find anything useful in college.
AI didn’t create the problem, it’s just compounded a problem that’s existed for a couple decades. About 25% of incoming students at public universities are placed in remedial math and or English, usually based on the institution’s own placement exams. Now, we’re seeing Ivy League schools offering remedial classes.
Slice it any way you want, but admitting a student that can’t demonstrate proficiency in 10th grade math/English then sending them to the financial aid office for a five figure loan is not doing that student any favors.
Instead, send the student to the local community college adult ed program to take basic English and Math courses for a couple hundred bucks and tell them to try again next semester.
Isn't it too late even at that point? The ability to learn basic language skills fades rapidly after childhood.
AI cheating is often a crutch for students ill-equipped to attend a four-year university.
But their skin color is what makes them equipped.
In order to get rid of AI cheating in college, universities would need to shift from credentialing machines to places of genuine inquiry. To do that, capable young people need access to good-paying jobs without a college degree.
(Psst. Someone tell Emma what "trade school" is.)
Flood the country with college degrees and then wonder why all these jobs require them.
Flood the market with college degrees and then wonder why they're worthless. Nobody looks at or cares about your bachelor's anymore. You're expected to have one.
The only reason to even put them on your resume anymore is in hopes that folks doing the hiring went to the same school or used the same greek letters you did, and get a little of that college nepotism working in your favor.
My boss went to our rival school. But in STEM fields, you hire for competence.
How quaint. It's nice to see people doing things old school.
So, expel them, per the academic code.
The world needs ditch diggers, too.
For ditches to bury the people who can't (or won't) learn to dig?
These days, "ditch diggers" are heavy equipment operators making $30 an hour.
You beat me to it. And if you live in southern/Southwest states you have work all year round.
Up north, not so much.
But the pay is worth it.
Up North there's snow to move.
Cognition is for luddites.
The headline is enticing, but otherwise a pretty worthless article. Your bias against college, whatever its source, led to several unsupported conclusions which then became the foundation for your argument.
For example, directly quoting college students using slang as a way to make them look ignorant probably felt satisfying, but it made you look old and out of touch. Plus, you didn’t even acknowledge the very valid point they were making about college courses not being well calibrated towards practical knowledge. Instead you tried to make fun of how some kids talk to prove a point.
In the end, you accomplished the opposite of what you set out to do. The college kids look like reasonable adults making the most of the hand they were dealt, and you look like a grumpy old man yelling at kids to get off your lawn.
These college kids that you find so ignorant are the ones who will be taking over the world really soon. What good comes out of fighting that basic fact?
I think the author is only a couple years out of college. Granted, it's never too young to cater to the Get off my lawn crowd at Reason
Pretty sure she's only a couple years out of middle school special ed classes.
But a shocking proportion of them ARE disturbingly ignorant. Since they'll be "taking over the world", shouldn't we be trying to address that problem?
And exactly how does one "address" that problem?
Gen Z is already screwed (and Alphas are on their way). They have zero critical thinking ability, zero attention span, screen addiction, no desire to read, a complete lack of social skills, and have had too much left-wing indoctrination at every turn. Far too many come from broken (or, worse, intentionally perverted) homes that taught them zero moral guidance.
The Millennials are salvageable - or, at least, the ones who didn't go to college are. But Gen Z? They are a time bomb.
How about returning to a realistic system of standards that require people to demonstrate some level of competence or proficiency in English and basic math skills? The rules of English grammar, spelling, composition and basic math are the same for everyone.
I’ll type this until my fingers bleed: providing an endless litany of excuses for failure rarely, if ever, results in success.
Grammar is white supremacy.
Word.
People like you are why Idiocracy is often referenced as a future documentary. They can be both stupid and make a point but your insistence that everyone just accept the status quo is next level retardation.
they need serious academic remediation
Is remediation even effective against the brain damage from an illiterate and non-thinking childhood and adolescence? Brain plasticity in adulthood appears to be greater than once believed, but at some point, the window closes for developing a mind with academic-level intellectual skills.
Long before "AI" and LLMs, and before students even got to college, illiterate kids were skating through high school by using voice-to-text and text-to-voice apps. Knowing how to read and write is unnecessary if you can have the texts read aloud to you and dictate essays out loud. This is why you see so many obvious "typos" in young peoples' "writing"—if the voice-to-text makes errors in transcribing, the "writer" who can't read doesn't know that.
I managed the parking operation at a small regional airport for a number of years. I had a crew of lot attendants/cashiers, typically about half of them college students (we had a public university and community college in town). It was great gig for a student, the way airport parking operates there’s a flurry of activity in the lots for about a 30 minute period then usually an hour to hour and a half period of very limited activity and the cycle repeats. This provided students a lot of time to study, do homework, read or even complete on-line coursework while making some beer money.
When interviewing a prospective new hire I’d often ask them to describe, in a paragraph or so, some experience or skill they felt would be applicable to the job. I’d hand them a pencil and a notepad. The result was, more often than not, pretty depressing.
I just read that Antioch College had a graduating class of FIFTEEN this year. Market forces are going to clean up some of the useless "education" problem. Lots of smaller colleges are circling the drain.
Trade schools will proliferate.
learning a useful trade provides a more marketable skill.
The question is: what trades are likely to require humans to do them ten years from now? Bricklaying? Carpentry? Juggling at the Renfaire?
-jcr
Remember SNL's Is It Date Rape? w/Shannon Doherty?
https://snltranscripts.jt.org/93/93bdaterape.phtml
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antioch_College
127 students.
Never having read Bleak House, I just looked up the Project Gutenberg, and wonder whether the problem the students had was with the preface or the part beginning "In Chancery". The first paragraph of the preface did make me guffaw, but the problem seems to be that today's readers are not used to the heavily compounded sentences that used to be fashionable in English writings and probably other languages. The first paragraph of the body is so composed of sentence fragments, it looks like the script of a play; not an actual sentence in it!
I imagine this would go over their heads too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXEEFMEl-bI
I once attempted to read Shakespear in ye olde English language.
Gave me a headache.
More and more reports indicate that many of those with a college degree are unfit for any sort of real employment. They have neither the skills nor the proper attitude that employers are looking for. Most college grads are spoiled little over -entitled brats with poor attitudes. Furthermore they have either weak or no job skills at all.
And a college degree in "Gender Studies" , Hospitality or Library Science is not going to land you a job anywhere. The list of useless college degrees grows longer by the day and young people are going to learn a hard lesson very soon.
A buddy and I worked in a bookstore. I finished up my PoliSci/History BA. He went on for an MS in Library Science. He got a nice job in a Midwestern private college's library. I continued to sell books. I got into online retailing support as Amazon ate the bookstore sector. Retired now. Paid off my loans but never got rich.
Since the 80s, The library science professional degree has become Library and Information Science, `cause, computers.
"Why Are Students Using AI To Cheat? Maybe Because They Shouldn't Be In College At All"
Most likely it is because they can't read the paper on the next desk.
Rorschach doesn't sound like that. Then again, most cartoon characters that've been voiced don't sound like the ones in my head. Arthur Lake rarely sounds like Dagwood. Chris T. doesn't sound like Kaz's big guy. Bert Piels does sound like Ray Goulding, but Harry doesn't sound like Bob Elliott. Smokey [the] Bear doesn't sound like anyone who's ever voiced him. Donald Duck ought to sue whoever voiced him, but unfortunately that's his gimmick.
I didn't say he sounded like that. I said it would go over their heads.
AI also makes it possible to preclude cheating. Instead of tests, the AI can interview the student in real time to assess their grasp of the subject.
-jcr
AI use appears greater in STEM fields, where it has productive applications. Personally, I'd be fine if the engineers who designed my next car used AI. That said, I'd also be fine if the EnglishLit major who waits on my table used AI to write their senior thesis on James Joyce.
Old man yells at cloud about newfangled calculators.
How about get rid of overpaid tenured professors who can't or don't teach, classes you never need, software you'll never use again and sports.
Nobody would use AI to cheat to learn something they actually wanted to learn. If I want to learn how to play guitar, cheating at that task would be useless. Same if I want to learn how to speak French, or how to cook.
Perhaps college students are cheating at tasks because they're meaningless make-work that people aren't actually interested in learning how to do?