Trump's New Trade Deal Has a Clear Winner: Vietnam
Americans will continue to pay higher tariffs, while Vietnamese businesses won't pay anything. Whatever happened to reciprocity?

In the lead-up to the "Liberation Day" tariff announcement in April, President Donald Trump often stressed the importance of reciprocity. He claimed that raising tariffs on imports from foreign countries was about fairness—and that America would drop tariffs if other countries agreed to do the same.
After the announcement of a new trade deal with Vietnam, we can safely conclude that Trump was not telling the truth about that.
Under the terms of that deal, announced Wednesday, American exports to Vietnam will face no tariffs while Vietnamese goods imported into the United States will face tariffs of between 20 percent and 40 percent. The higher rate is reserved for goods that are shipped through Vietnam from other origins. (The exact details of the deal are reportedly still being hammered out.)
Vietnam is giving the United States "TOTAL ACCESS to their Markets for Trade," Trump wrote on Truth Social as he announced the deal. "We will be able to sell our product into Vietnam at ZERO Tariff."
That's great, but what happened to reciprocity and fairness?
Most of the trade between America and Vietnam is flowing in one direction. In 2024, America exported just $13 billion worth of goods to Vietnam but imported more than $136 billion worth of stuff from there. The U.S. was the top export market for Vietnamese goods, which include a wide range of products like electronics, industrial machinery, household goods, clothing, shoes, and toys.
All of that, under Trump's trade deal, will face a 20 percent tax when it enters the country. The Penn Wharton Budget Model's tariff simulator estimates that a 20 percent tariff on all imports from Vietnam would generate between $18 billion and $29 billion in federal taxes, depending on how consumers respond.
Yes, 20 percent is better than the astonishing 46 percent tariff that Trump threatened to slap on Vietnamese imports in April, but it's still a huge amount of taxes that will be paid by American consumers and businesses.
In that regard, this deal looks a lot like the other preliminary deals Trump has struck with China and the United Kingdom. In each, foreign businesses and consumers got lower tariffs and Americans got hit with higher ones.
Yes, in fairness, tariff-free trade into Vietnam is good news for American farmers and manufacturers that export goods to that country, as Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick has argued. And the reduction in tariffs may marginally increase our exports to Vietnam.
For the vast majority of Americans, however, trade with Vietnam matters on the buying side, not the selling side. For them, this deal accomplishes very little.
The deal also sends a clear signal to other countries that Trump's promise of reciprocity was bullshit.
"Vietnam's trade deal with the US is a wake-up call for Asian governments grappling with the reality that higher tariffs are here to stay," reports Bloomberg. "What we learned from the Vietnam deal is, if anything, the tariffs are going to go up from here, not down," Sebastian Raedler, head of European equity strategy at Bank of America, told CNBC.
Free trade between the U.S. and Vietnam would be a win-win for both countries. That's not what Trump has delivered with this deal. Vietnamese businesses and consumers got free trade. Americans got more taxes.
There was a clear winner in this negotiation, and it wasn't Trump.
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Not certain you understand the goal.
I’m absolutely certain you don’t. What, exactly, do you think the goal is?
To laugh at retards on the internet.
Hahaha!
Well than Jesse is perfect.
Youre so retarded you don't realize you were the subject of his post. Wow.
Nelson, you’re an idiot. Just admit that, and go fuck off forever.
I'm pretty sure DLAM gets it, but I'm absolutely sure that you don’t, Mike.
Trump's goal is decoupling from China, increasing leverage over foreign markets, boosting U.S. exports, and presenting a politically powerful "tough on trade" image.
Vietnam’s become a major hub for transshipped Chinese goods, stuff that’s just getting rerouted to dodge existing tariffs. By slapping a 40% tariff on those, he's trying to close that loophole. At the same time, he's opening Vietnam's markets to American exports with zero tariffs. That might not mean much to average idiot here, but it’s a big win for U.S. producers, especially ag and manufacturing.
And, here's the part you a Boehm are both trying to pretend doesn't matter: "Yes, in fairness, tariff-free trade into Vietnam is good news for American farmers and manufacturers that export goods to that country, as Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick has argued. And the reduction in tariffs may marginally increase our exports to Vietnam."
"Marginally" and "in fairness" are doing a fuck of a lot of heavy lifting for you two there.
I thought nobody wins a trade war and diversity and international trade are an inherent good(s) (WTF did the FF know anyway?). The primary overt reason to poo poo a trade deal with Vietnam as the winner is if you think Vietnam is an oppressive shithole unworthy of trade and not trading with them fixes that.
Unless, of course, virtually every free trade deal in history has actually been managed trade by a different name all along.
Trump wants to maximize exports and minimize imports. So it’s no surprise that they don’t pay import taxes on our exports while we pay exorbitant import taxes on their exports. It’s the mercantilist way.
The American peons WIN by paying HIGHER TAXES!
The Vietnamese peons LOSE by paying ZERO taxes of this kind!
THIS (PLUS Spermy Daniels!) is twat makes Trump a WINNER!
At least Sqrlsy is playing along with Sarckles.
Marxist Necrophiliac Moose-Mammary-Farter-Fuhrer sides with Trump, whose Big Beautiful Tariff-Taxes-Tantrums will make us ALL rich! Except for the Bitches from Inner Islamic Canuckistanistanistanistanistan, who will get Canschlus before they ever get rich from tariff-tax-tantrums, and Marxist Necrophiliac Moose-Mammary-Farter-Fuhrer lusts after Canschluss, in the hopes that Trump will then grab Her PervFected Canuck Pussy!
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So, sneeringly, says the uncivil, unsnivilized, and unsnivilizable sniveler-snob!
Who LOVES Marxist Necrophiliac Moose-Mammary-Farter-Fuhrer!!!
(Sad to say, Marxist Necrophiliac Moose-Mammary-Farter-Fuhrer will NEVER fuck the uncivil, unsnivilized, and unsnivilizable sniveler-snob!
He must have offered the gibbering idiot a few buckets of shit for his compliance.
Says the 50-center who is paid 50 cents per post to support Trumpist Government-Almighty Marxism!
All is For The Centralized Spermy-Daniels Queen-Hive, Cumrades!!! Onwards, Upwards, and Hive-Wards!
And now I see the shit eating grey box has attempted to respond to me. It should focus it’s efforts on suicide.
we can safely conclude that Trump was not telling the truth about that.
Moving on.
The higher rate is reserved for goods that are shipped through Vietnam from
other originsChina.FTFY. The higher rate is to keep China from gaming the system.
it's still a huge amount of taxes that will be paid by American consumers and businesses.
And Eric still does not understand what tariffs are. After what, he's 70th article hurling himself at the fainting couch with one eye open?
There was a clear winner in this negotiation, and it wasn't Trump.
Communist VN is now giving us open access to their markets and VN now pays us for the privilege of having access to ours. And we stick a thumb in China's eye along the way.
That's a win, Eric. The only reason you hate it is because of the guy who delivered it. Grow up.
Tariffs are taxes. You’re cheering high taxes. If Democrats were hiking taxes you’d rightly be angry. But when Trump hikes taxes you celebrate. The only reason you like these taxes is because of who is hiking them. Tax lover.
Yet you're demanding 2x the cost in income taxes. Literally even today. Make it make sense.
He doesn’t really care, Sarc is a welfare queen, and benefits cheat. So he loves more government and more taxes.
And Eric still does not understand what tariffs are....VN now pays us for the privilege of having access to our [markets]
No comment necessary.
Beat me to it. And yep, it's not Eric who doesn't understand what tariffs are...
“We can safely assume that Trump was not telling the truth about that”
Gee, what a shock.
“ FTFY. The higher rate is to keep China from gaming the system.”
And how does that prevent China from doing anything? It just means they’ll transship through another country with lower tariffs, which they would have done anyway since 20% is pretty high. It literally changes nothing for China. Pro-tariff people seem to forget that there are 190+ countries in the world, most of which don’t have formal trade agreements with us. When one door closes, 190 windows open.
“ And Eric still does not understand what tariffs are.”
If you don’t think this will drive up prices, one of the two of you doesn’t understand and it isn’t Eric.
“ Communist VN is now giving us open access to their markets and VN now pays us for the privilege of having access to ours. And we stick a thumb in China's eye along the way.”
It’s cute that you think that Vietnam will pay for anything and that this impacts China in any way. This will hurt US companies who produce their goods in Vietnam and won’t do squat to China.
You’re one of those naive who think that tariffs don’t hurt American companies, aren’t you?
“ That's a win, Eric.”
Even if what you wrote was true, which it isn’t, it would still be a loss for American consumers. And while relatively high, 20% isn’t anywhere near enough to cause companies to reshore production in America.
It would be much easier for China to transship though Vietnam than South Korea.
As long as Trump is in office, pulling that kind of stunt will won’t go unnoticed.
He thinks Vietnam will pay because Trump says tariffs are paid by foreigners, and his dumbass followers think economics is leftist because it says Trump is wrong.
Need the Atl Fed study for the 20th time? Ha. Who am I kidding. You prefer being ignorant like all the other leftist retards here.
what happened to reciprocity and fairness?
It was never really about 'reciprocity and fairness'. It was always about mercantilism. Using trade as leverage for the US to gain advantages over other nations.
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Seethe harder Fatfuck.
Trump has drifted off into Trumpania, a strange country surrounded by border guards whose only purposes are to flatter the Leader and fend off any attempts by reality to enter. Performing like mirrors, they reflect Trumpian stupidity right back to Trump, feeding is ego and destroying his contact with reality.
This is classic cult behavior the "likes of which no one has ever seen before" to use Trump's favorite phrase. And just like when Trump uses it, it's wrong. We have seen it before, several times the worst of which was Franklyn Roosevelt, America's second worst president. FDR almost destroyed America. Trump might succeed where FDR failed.
Now do the jobs report; and the stock market; and inflation. And...
Sure the guy's a jerk, and he's duplicitous, and a raging egomaniac and a hundred other things I am sure you can call him. It doesn't forgive every sin but still beats the shit out of the alternative, and that is the reality we face, not in an imaginary world of perfect choices.
But "worst?" Not by a long shot.
Ripples man. Ripples.
Most "manufacturing" of electronics and textiles done in Vietnam is from sub-assemblies or parts carted across the border from China. And the Vietnamese entities doing this are often owned or controlled by the Chinese companies that previously made the same items in China. It's the same sort of stuff that China is doing in Mexico.
So what you're saying is, instead of paying Chinese-owned companies soup to nuts, now we're slicing off a portion for the assembly workers in Vietnam (and Mexico).
Are you saying we should go back to paying full chain/sole source to China or that we should stop cutting places like Vietnam and Mexico in on the deal?
Because either way, your retarded, shortsighted, TDS makes you look more stupid and racist than Trump.
What happened?
The price of US [Na]tional So[zi]al[ism] happened.
Funny how so many people with big mouths think that $36T debt is going to just pay for itself or that somehow domestic producers are going to pay for it all by themselves while trying to compete with tax-exempt foreign production.
Raising income taxes would have been a cleaner and more reliable way to raise revenue.
TJ doesn’t understand that we pay tariffs. He refuses to learn basic economics because it contradicts Trump.
You choose to pay them by relying on temu and other sites lol.
Then you demand everyone pay twice as much in taxes without said choice.
YOU do; not [WE] unlike income taxes.
YOU chose to depend on foreign nations .. not [WE].
Like I said; I refuse to learn your STUPID and it has nothing to do with Trump it has everything to do with you being STUPID and trying desperately to indoctrinate others.
At the cost of economic growth, sure.
And crush the economy. And revenue. What's so funny about the Laffer curve?
Vietnam: 2
USA: 0
Trade with honor?
So Vietnam (a net exporter) is the "winner" here, even though all of their imports are taxed while America exports to their country is not, and we get access to their market. All righty then.
You could credibly argue the Vietnamese consumers won, and American consumers lost. But why make that comparison in a vacuum? They're a piss poor country whose people could benefit from non taxed American goods. For most Americans the tariffs on Vietnamese products will amount to paying 5-10 bucks more for shoes and shirts. If the higher tariffs are reserved for products that are merely moved through Vietnam, then it's less of an issue.
A no tariff trade between countries is only one (and the most obvious) from reciprocal deal. If CA raised slapped a 65 cent per gallon gas tax in exchange for expanding school choice, would you consider that a loss? Yes it's a bit of a false choice, but in a trade deal that's the kind decisions you make.
This is how you make a deal. The republicans asked for the wall and E-verify in any amnesty deal. The harpies screeched about racism and did nothing, and the migrant crisis finally herded enough Americans to Trump's side. American politics is a perpetual state of stasis where people wax poetics and try real hard not to offend anyone and nothing gets done. Trump upended that just a LITTLE and everyone goes nuts.
2022: BIDENFLATION IS KILLING AMERICA!!!! EVERYTHING COSTS MORE!!!
2025: So what if stuff costs more? Trump made a deal!
Inflation is at the lowest rate since 2021.
Inflation is always transitory up or down. Or so I'm told.
Facts literally dont matter to retards like sarc or Nelson.
2025 sarc: increase income taxes!!!!
Keep going buddy. Youre doing great.