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Congress

Republican Holdouts

Plus: Zohran Mamdani doesn't understand what New York's families need, Lia Thomas titles revoked, and more...

Liz Wolfe | 7.2.2025 9:30 AM

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The back and forth: First, the "Big Beautiful Bill" was passed by the House. Then it was wrangled over in the Senate, passing narrowly, 51–50. Now, House legislators are returning to Washington to vote on the version that passed the Senate, and some of the representatives who say they were bullied into passing President Donald Trump's domestic agenda are now saying they're going to resist voting to pass. The Fourth of July deadline that the president gave Congress remains, Elon Musk keeps having a conniption, and your national deficit very well might balloon if the Republican holdouts acquiesce. Happy America Day, everyone! Wouldn't Jefferson be proud?

"House Speaker Mike Johnson can afford to lose only three Republican votes in the face of unified Democratic opposition, if all members are present and voting," reports Bloomberg. "Republicans Warren Davidson and Thomas Massie, who voted against the bill in May, remain firm no votes." So that leaves space for just one more who can object; any more and the whole bill will fail. Rep. Chip Roy (R–Texas) might defect. Or possibly Rep. Andy Ogles (R–Tenn.). Or Rep. Ralph Norman (R–S.C.).

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"I'm not happy with what the Senate did to our product," said the speaker. "We understand this is the process. It goes back and forth, and we'll be working to get all of our members to yes."

Specifically, there's a lot of frustration with what happened to SALT deductions and Medicaid.

"The Senate bill increases the SALT cap to $40,000 annually for a five-year period, when it would then snap back to the current $10,000 limit," reports Bloomberg. "The House bill was more generous amid pushback from Republicans from New York, California and New Jersey. Most of the so-called SALT caucus ultimately supported the Senate deal as the best they could get. But New York's [Rep.] Nick LaLota has said the deal isn't enough and that he would vote no on the bill." Other Republicans in the House, representing high-tax states, might feel the same.

Republicans' vision has been that Medicaid cuts could offset the spending and tax cuts included in the Big, Beautiful Bill. But the Senate version "makes $930 billion in cuts over a decade to Medicaid, Medicare and the Affordable Care Act," according to the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office, and has slightly stricter welfare work requirements than the House version of the bill, which made roughly $800 billion in cuts.

But more broadly, there should be a lot of frustration with massive government spending. Elon Musk continues to sound the alarm about this, and so does Reason's very own Eric Boehm (citing conscientious objector Rand Paul):

"Most budget projections in Washington operate on a 10-year window, which is useful for long-term policymaking—not all fiscal consequences of a new law are apparent in the first year after it is passed," writes Boehm. "Unfortunately, as [Sen. Rand] Paul [(R–Ky.)] points out, the 10-year budget window also creates opportunities for lawmakers to load up bills like this one with gimmicks designed to hide the true cost."

Over 10 years, the Senate version of the "One Big Beautiful Bill" Act will reduce the deficit by $521 billion, according to a Congressional Budget Office (CBO) analysis released Sunday. Those budget savings are the result of about $1.3 trillion in spending reductions—almost all of which would occur in the last five years of that 10-year window.

Whether those spending cuts actually happen will depend on future lawmakers sticking to the plan. But the existence of that plan can be used to offset tax cuts approved by lawmakers today.

But "the largest gimmick by far is the decision to have the CBO score the legislation based on the faulty assumption that the 2017 tax cuts would not expire this year," continues Boehm. "That so-called 'current policy' baseline hides the $3.9 trillion budgetary hit that would otherwise have to be offset to make the bill revenue-neutral. It is roughly the equivalent of saying that your rent payment will be the same next month, so therefore does not cost anything—and then using that logic as a justification to spend your entire monthly budget on other purchases."


Scenes from New York: "To the socialist mind, families are not forces for good; they're competitors to the state." Me, on why Zohran Mamdani and other socialists like him don't understand what families actually want and need.


QUICK HITS

  • President Trump says that Israel has agreed to a 60-day ceasefire with Hamas, though no details have been made public and the Israeli government has not yet confirmed.
  • Lia Thomas, the male-to-female transgender swimmer, will be stripped of all swimming titles won from the University of Pennsylvania following the Trump administration exerting pressure on the school. A probe by the Department of Education's Office for Civil Rights found Penn guilty of violating Title IX by "allowing a male to compete in female athletic programs and occupy female-only intimate facilities" and will force the school to issue apologies to all female swimmers forced to compete against Thomas. I think this is fair, albeit long overdue.
  • A family living close to an ill-managed landfill in southern California "filed a report with the local regulator, the South Coast Air Quality Management District. At that point, in mid-2023, their complaint was one of 900 or so. By the time Howse got her [breast cancer] diagnosis in March 2024, that number had topped 9,500. Since then, the regulator has slapped Chiquita Canyon LLC, a subsidiary of Waste Connections Inc., with hundreds of air-quality and health-code violations and ordered it to fix the place up." ("In early 2022 a closed section in the landfill's northwest corner began overheating, eventually reaching temperatures above 200F (93C)," reports Bloomberg. "That's nearly 40% hotter than the federal EPA's standard for landfill operations. As the waste slowly cooked, it belched out toxic gases, elevating nearby levels of hydrogen sulfide, carbon monoxide and benzene, which can damage DNA and cause leukemia after enough exposure. Large amounts of leachate (basically, trash juice) built up and bubbled, boiled and even shot into the air like geysers.")
  • A very good and warranted psychoanalysis:

Despite the fact that they were not born or raised in America, Zohran Mamdani's mother was welcomed as a student at Harvard and his father is a professor at Columbia, two of the most elite American institutions. His father originally came to the U.S. as a sponsored college… pic.twitter.com/LrNLkdzggJ

— Jeremy Carl (@realJeremyCarl) June 30, 2025

  • You seriously cannot make this up:

This is hilarious. 25% of the signers of the "Economists for Zohran" letter are not even economists.

And Oren Cass hasn't signed yet, so there's still time to increase the percentage. https://t.co/lkckNmJPnk

— Phil Magness (@PhilWMagness) July 2, 2025

  • Tyler Cowen's rules for travel, which I think could be summarized as "go to Eastern Europe for really good food." (I disagree with the gamble-on-a-destination-you're-not-interested-in advice; I did this with Cabo Verde, the African island nation, and had a bad time.) Debate as you wish!

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  1. Fist of Etiquette   20 hours ago

    I'm not happy with what the Senate did to our product...

    "Look how they massacred my boy."

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    1. Sometimes a Great Notion   19 hours ago

      Time for a Congressional fishing trip?

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      1. InsaneTrollLogic (Muting Sarc like he mutes us)   19 hours ago

        I know it was you, Fredo. You broke my heart.

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  2. Fist of Etiquette   20 hours ago

    ...some of the representatives who say they were bullied into passing President Donald Trump's domestic agenda are now saying they're going to resist voting to pass.

    The Day the Rubber Stamps Fought Back

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    1. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   20 hours ago

      RESIST!

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    2. mad.casual   19 hours ago

      A fractured and defeated Republican Party is driving us into the ditch before their imminent demise again.

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  3. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   20 hours ago

    allowing a male to compete in female athletic programs and occupy female-only intimate facilities"

    Sanity has returned?

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    1. InsaneTrollLogic (Muting Sarc like he mutes us)   19 hours ago

      At least until jeffsarc or Tony get here.

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    2. Scooter   18 hours ago

      Science, at least.

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  4. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   20 hours ago

    "Economists for Zohran" = Queers for Palestine.

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    1. Mother's Lament - (Sarc's a Nazi, not even joking)   18 hours ago

      "Impossible, that wouldn't be in their self-interest"

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  5. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   20 hours ago

    ” go to Eastern Europe for really good food."

    Nothing could be further from the truth.

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    1. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   19 hours ago

      I can make goulash at home.

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    2. mad.casual   19 hours ago

      You know the "face for radio" joke? You're reading travel and culinary advice from an economist.

      To wit:
      Cowen: You need to taste the flavors of that which is unseen!
      GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND: I can do that at home!

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      1. Jefferson Paul   19 hours ago

        That was a great clip. Classic Simpsons episodes were amazing. The abomination that has the "Simpsons" moniker today is another story.

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        1. Ajsloss   18 hours ago

          I watched a documentary on the Simpsons and a lot of it centered around "opening the writers' room". So many new voices, how great that was!

          Then they started asking people, even the new diverse writers, to define the Golden Age. They universally agreed that it was before diversity.

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          1. Sometimes a Great Notion   17 hours ago

            JUSTICE 4 APU!

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            1. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   14 hours ago

              Not only did Hank going woke ruin Apu, it ruined his own show, Brockmire, which was hilarious the first couple seasons.

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              1. Dillinger   13 hours ago

                word.

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        2. Dillinger   17 hours ago

          >>The abomination that has the "Simpsons" moniker today is another story.

          yes ... I'll still never miss one until they stop just in case

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    3. Randy Sax   19 hours ago

      Not a fan of potato vodka?

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    4. Ajsloss   19 hours ago

      Borscht shit.

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    5. Eeyore   19 hours ago

      Before it was a war zone - food in Ukraine was very good. Especially the steak. Sad.
      The food in Moldova is good. Good wine.
      The food in Romania is good - if you choose to define it as eastern.

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      1. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   18 hours ago

        Any dishes in particular you’d recommend?

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        1. Mother's Lament - (Sarc's a Nazi, not even joking)   18 hours ago

          Galushki, red borscht, green borscht and white borscht, potato soup, Salo served on bread with onion, and horseradish (probably not to American tastes), holubtsi with the sour cabbage leaves and rice and minced pork filling.

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          1. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   16 hours ago

            I actually used to grow my own horseradish.

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        2. Jim Conley   16 hours ago

          Dem Hunky mofos know how to stuff a cabbage

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  6. Medulla Oblongata   20 hours ago

    "To the socialist mind, families are not forces for good; they're competitors to the state."

    Of course this is the case. It has always been the case for Marxists, ever since the Communist Manifesto was written:

    Abolition [Aufhebung] of the family! Even the most radical flare up at this infamous proposal of the Communists.

    On what foundation is the present family, the bourgeois family, based? On capital, on private gain. In its completely developed form, this family exists only among the bourgeoisie. But this state of things finds its complement in the practical absence of the family among the proletarians, and in public prostitution.

    The bourgeois family will vanish as a matter of course when its complement vanishes, and both will vanish with the vanishing of capital.

    Do you charge us with wanting to stop the exploitation of children by their parents? To this crime we plead guilty.

    But, you say, we destroy the most hallowed of relations, when we replace home education by social.

    And your education! Is not that also social, and determined by the social conditions under which you educate, by the intervention direct or indirect, of society, by means of schools, &c.? The Communists have not invented the intervention of society in education; they do but seek to alter the character of that intervention, and to rescue education from the influence of the ruling class.

    The bourgeois clap-trap about the family and education, about the hallowed co-relation of parents and child, becomes all the more disgusting, the more, by the action of Modern Industry, all the family ties among the proletarians are torn asunder, and their children transformed into simple articles of commerce and instruments of labour.

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  7. Sometimes a Great Notion   20 hours ago

    Cut Spending, NOW! No, 10 year gimmicks; we're broke. Debt to GDP is 123%. $1.1+ trillion yearly interest payments.

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  8. Spiritus Mundi   20 hours ago

    This is hilarious. 25% of the signers of the "Economists for Zohran" letter are not even economists.

    Isolated incident. The economist who predict prosperity tariff induced inflation is right around the corner are legit.

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    1. Fats of Fury   19 hours ago

      Did Boehm sign?

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    2. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   17 hours ago

      The economists sarc listens to.

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  9. Social Justice is neither   20 hours ago

    Wait, Liz is shocked that leftists lie? I'm surprised it's only 25%. This has been a standard tactic at least as long as the much touted "climate scientists agree" lie has been around where virtually anyone was considered a scientist so long as they signed the petition.

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    1. Spiritus Mundi   19 hours ago

      Trust the experts.

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      1. InsaneTrollLogic (Muting Sarc like he mutes us)   19 hours ago

        97% of experts agree that they want their funding to continue so they’ll say what the funders want to maintain that cash flow.

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        1. Ajsloss   19 hours ago

          100% of experts say that 97% seems low.

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          1. Randy Sax   18 hours ago

            I've always wanted to meet that one dentist that doesn't recommend name brand toothpaste.

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    2. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   19 hours ago

      She seems to get right up to the line of understanding leftists then her naivety takes over and she just doesn’t quite get there. Oh well, she’s still young.

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    3. Use the Schwartz   12 hours ago

      I buy stuff therefore I are Economist.

      Or:

      I have of late decided to identify as an Economist, please respect my pronouns.

      p.s. Economics is racist.

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  10. Spiritus Mundi   19 hours ago

    Reason takes another hard L:

    Paramount, CBS Cave: 8-Figure Settlement, Agree to 'Trump Rule' on Interviews.

    It appears CNN thinks Trump's case had merit afterall.

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    1. mad.casual   19 hours ago

      Reason Free Speech itself takes another hard L

      FIFY.

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      1. Social Justice is neither   19 hours ago

        So you think journalists should be allowed to edit speech however they wish and portray it as a true reflection of the interview? Odd take to support fraud but OK.

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        1. mad.casual   19 hours ago

          I guess I should've had a /sarc tag. I figured the interchange of "Reason as the embodiment of Free Speech itself" in the "Fauci as science" fashion would've been enough. My fault.

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          1. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   19 hours ago

            The only free speech that is supported is when government agencies tell social media companies what to censor.

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            1. Jefferson Paul   18 hours ago

              You wouldn't want to infringe on the free speech of the federal government, would you?

              (The most ass-backwards way to look at freedom of speech and 1A)

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              1. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   18 hours ago

                Poor sqrlsy.

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              2. Mother's Lament - (Sarc's a Nazi, not even joking)   18 hours ago

                This was literally an argument Sqrlsy advanced here for several weeks after it became known that the government was censoring social media posts.
                No, seriously. He insisted it was the free speech of the CIA, FBI and Biden administration to demand companies censor user posts they didn't like.

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                1. InsaneTrollLogic (Muting Sarc like he mutes us)   17 hours ago

                  Should we expect any less from the little shit eater?

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                2. Jefferson Paul   11 hours ago

                  I couldn't remember which poster made that argument. Figured it was one of Sqrlsy, Bushpig2, or chemjeff.

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      2. Spiritus Mundi   19 hours ago

        For the record, CNN can edit the interview however they want. But they can't sell themselves as an impartial news company. What they did was a campaign contribution and they hid behind the veil of being neutral. Legally, they can't do that.

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    2. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   19 hours ago

      Damn, I really was hoping for discovery.

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    3. Liberty_Belle   18 hours ago

      I heard the suits dont give a crap about the journalistic integrity, they settled so that Trump doesn't block the multi-billion dollar merger that is happening in the background with Skydance. It requires rubber stamp by the president, and he can throw a wrench in the works if unhappy. So screw integrity, there is money to be made.

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      1. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   17 hours ago

        Cry more. It was because they know how bad discovery will look.

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    4. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   17 hours ago

      I'm sure Sullum will have an article saying this is an admission of CBS lying like he did for Fox.

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  11. Medulla Oblongata   19 hours ago

    Worst dictatorship ever!

    WSJ headline:

    Trump Sets Record for Inactivity
    What kind of authoritarian doesn’t tell people what to do?

    On Friday this column surmised that the phenomenon of bullish equity investors in the face of costly tariff fights and negative first-quarter GDP growth had a lot to do with President Donald Trump’s regulatory restraint. At the risk of ruining his media reputation as an authoritarian, Mr. Trump now appears to be setting a modern record in avoiding telling Americans what to do. Specifically his administration appears to be imposing far fewer rules than its recent predecessors. What’s more, even when Mr. Trump does issue a directive, it’s often simply to tell Americans that they no longer have to follow another directive previously issued by someone else.

    References Forbes article:

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/waynecrews/2025/07/01/trumps-deregulation-score-mid-year-federal-rules-tally-is-the-lowest-ever-recorded/

    Trump’s Deregulation Score: Mid-Year Federal Rules Tally Is The Lowest Ever Recorded

    Coincidentally, today’s Federal Register happens to be Trump’s fattest at 895 pages. It also contains his highest number of both proposed and final rules. But many of the proposed and final rules populating the Trump-era Register consist of pauses, revisions and withdrawals rather than hammer-down regulation of business and the public.

    The trajectory seems clear--2025 is on pace to sport the lowest rule count of all time at an estimated 2,510 (that’s just a straight-line projection). That would best Trump’s own record for the all-time low rule count of 2,964 back in 2019. The takeaway seems to be that Trump’s one-in, ten-out exectutive order is having real effects, as the gross counts are the lowest ever seen, and largely deregulatory in character besides.

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    1. mad.casual   19 hours ago

      At the risk of ruining his media reputation as an authoritarian

      I'm going to need someone to explain to me the meaning of the word 'risk' as it's used here.

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    2. Gaear Grimsrud   19 hours ago

      This can't be right. The libertarians at Reason haven't covered this at all.

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      1. InsaneTrollLogic (Muting Sarc like he mutes us)   19 hours ago

        As far as the libertines here are concerned, they want their cheap imported shit, food trucks, undocumented slaves, butt sex, weed, no consequences for their actions. What is this reducing regulations bullshit?

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        1. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   19 hours ago

          Low regulations have nothing to do with the American dream.

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      2. Mother's Lament - (Sarc's a Nazi, not even joking)   18 hours ago

        Local stories. No national importance. If they actually meant anything they'd be on the cover of the Atlantic.

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    3. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   19 hours ago

      Doj also refrained from appealing a gun regulation overturned. Haven’t read any details but good sign regarding Bondi, which was a concern going in.

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    4. EISTAU Gree-Vance   14 hours ago

      I dunno. I’m a little worried about the don relaxing trunk latch regulations. He’s putting everyone at risk. Totally reckless.

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      1. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   13 hours ago

        Trunk bear attacks are sure to skyrocket.

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  12. Sometimes a Great Notion   19 hours ago

    will be stripped of all swimming titles

    Asterisk would be better. *Male winner of female event during a period of severe moral and mental disorder at the NCCA and the U Penn.

    Least they forget.

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    1. Fats of Fury   19 hours ago

      Will the NCAA weigh in? They had a big hand in oking this mess.

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    2. Randy Sax   19 hours ago

      Who won the Tour De France from 1999-2005?

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      1. Sometimes a Great Notion   19 hours ago

        Lance Armstrong... did he get an asterisk or did they give it to someone else?

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        1. Randy Sax   19 hours ago

          Current official stance is "There was no winner".

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          1. Randy Sax   19 hours ago

            When Lance was caught pretty much all the other racers were also caught doping. Everyone was doing it, so there was no person to hand wins down to realistically.

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            1. InsaneTrollLogic (Muting Sarc like he mutes us)   19 hours ago

              The Tour de Pharmacy.

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              1. Jefferson Paul   18 hours ago

                edit: I was wrong, so I deleted post.

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            2. Ajsloss   19 hours ago

              Sounds like they were all on an even playing field and he should still be the winner.

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              1. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   18 hours ago

                What happened with the doped up olympics?

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                1. InsaneTrollLogic (Muting Sarc like he mutes us)   18 hours ago

                  East Germany ceased to exist.

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          2. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   19 hours ago

            I’m sure the guy in second place feels pretty good about that.

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          3. mad.casual   19 hours ago

            Incredible that they would slight a legitimately reproductively *and* neurologically intersexed individual like that.

            Edit: To be clear, I'm mocking people who, like the body positivity movement, openly celebrate crippling cancer and disease.

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  13. Fist of Etiquette   19 hours ago

    President Trump says that Israel has agreed to a 60-day ceasefire with Hamas...

    DEAL MAKING MACHINE

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    1. Spiritus Mundi   19 hours ago

      Thank Allah the genicide is ending. And just in time, the hospital's generator was going to run out of gas any minute!

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      1. Ska   19 hours ago

        If Trump's for it, I'm against. BRING BACK THE GENOCIDE!!!!!

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        1. Gaear Grimsrud   17 hours ago

          Only an authoritarian would force people to stop killing each other.

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          1. InsaneTrollLogic (Muting Sarc like he mutes us)   17 hours ago

            Channeling one’s inner Josef Tito.

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          2. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   17 hours ago

            It’s not that he stopped people from killing each other, it’s how he did it that we don’t like.

            — sarcasmic

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            1. Medulla Oblongata   15 hours ago

              Since Democrats didn't do it first, it's not ok?

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      2. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   17 hours ago

        Gazans testify Hamas is targeting civilians trying to get aid. Dave Smith and sarc hardest hit. And jewFree.

        https://legalinsurrection.com/2025/07/gazans-tastify-that-hamas-deliberately-targets-civilians-collecting-humanitarian-aid/

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  14. Fist of Etiquette   19 hours ago

    To the socialist mind, families are not forces for good; they're competitors to the state.

    Everything is a burden on the state.

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    1. Spiritus Mundi   19 hours ago

      Everything is a burden on women - the state.

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  15. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   19 hours ago

    Well if Eric bohem says it's bad then it must be good, because bohem is an evil subhuman cancer

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  16. Fist of Etiquette   19 hours ago

    A probe by the Department of Education's Office for Civil Rights found Penn guilty of violating Title IX...

    Ha, Title IX is quite the powerful weapon for either side to use. (For being, what? Two sentences?)

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  17. Fist of Etiquette   19 hours ago

    ...will force the school to issue apologies to all female swimmers forced to compete against Thomas.

    That's going to leave a mark.

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    1. Longtobefree   18 hours ago

      Nope.
      They will have AI generate a form letter, and sign it.
      Nobody in the Penn administration will ever honestly apologize.

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      1. Medulla Oblongata   15 hours ago

        So, like a Biden autopen?

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        1. Neutral not Neutered   12 hours ago

          And the Biden/Penn center will keep receiving millions from China every year?

          Or now that Biden is gone from office and China received insider info on energy companies and land close to military bases coming up for sale in the USA that they purchased, they feel they got what they wanted for their money?

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  18. mad.casual   19 hours ago

    A very good and warranted psychoanalysis:

    Unfortunately for you (or Reason), the immigration, education/indoctrination, and naturalization analysis writes itself.

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    1. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   19 hours ago

      We need to keep importing more people like that or there will be no innovation.

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  19. Fist of Etiquette   19 hours ago

    ...the regulator has slapped Chiquita Canyon LLC, a subsidiary of Waste Connections Inc., with hundreds of air-quality and health-code violations and ordered it to fix the place up.

    The most regulated state in the union and this is the best it can do?

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    1. Sometimes a Great Notion   19 hours ago

      Did China stop excepting their "recyclables"?

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    2. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   19 hours ago

      How did the neighbors get sick but not the guys who work there?

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      1. Jefferson Paul   18 hours ago

        Perhaps the employees wear PPE. Or it's the 8 hours per day there for the workers vs the 16+ hours per day at home for the residents.

        Or the landfill isn't making people sick, but a class action lawsuit settlement is good incentive for trial lawyers to sue.

        I don't know.

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        1. InsaneTrollLogic (Muting Sarc like he mutes us)   18 hours ago

          Being an environmental engineer, I’ve seen this before. Had a site some years ago where there was a leak from a gas station underground storage tank. It caused a plume under a neighborhood. One resident was adamant that she could smell it in her basement and she was getting sick from it. We tested the air in her home, top to bottom and found nothing. We also tested other homes nearby in the neighborhood for good measure. One house had very high levels of vapor in the air, especially the basement. Yet, the residents of this home never once complained about anything.

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          1. Randy Sax   18 hours ago

            The only environmental course in my civil program was stormwater management. I ended up going for structural instead.

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            1. InsaneTrollLogic (Muting Sarc like he mutes us)   18 hours ago

              You’d never believe how many people start itching and sneezing as soon as you mention asbestos, never mind that the particles are so small they’d never feel them and would breathe them in easily without feeling them.

              Then we get asshole lawyers who taken them up on their “cases”. The problem is too many goddamn fucking attorneys.

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              1. Neutral not Neutered   12 hours ago

                Same with mold. People walk in, hey that looks like mold, I feel sick, I can't work, I am dizzy and my stomach is upset. Company gets concerned, calls in inspectors, tests are ran. Not mold, nothing there to cause an illness. Workers all of a sudden feel better and can return to work...

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          2. Gaear Grimsrud   17 hours ago

            Many years ago I sold a small commercial building and the property next door had been a gas station decades before. Nobody believed there was any gas in the tanks but they were still there. I paid thousands for a Phase 1 environmental site assessment. Two inches thick with pictures and graphs and technical wordage. I'm 99% sure no one ever read it. I sure didn't. But it was the post Super Fund due diligence required to get the deal done.

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  20. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   19 hours ago

    As for travel, the best advice comes from the movie anaconda(I think) . The black guy says thank God for slavery, anything that got our asses out of this shit hole was good

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    1. Jefferson Paul   18 hours ago

      Wasn't Anaconda set in the Amazon and not in Africa?

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      1. InsaneTrollLogic (Muting Sarc like he mutes us)   18 hours ago

        Forget it. He's rolling.

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      2. Mother's Lament - (Sarc's a Nazi, not even joking)   18 hours ago

        'Ball python' or 'Central African Rock Python' just didn't have the same cachet as 'Anaconda!'

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      3. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   17 hours ago

        It might have been congo

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    2. tracerv   16 hours ago

      I thought that was "Roots". Toby hated snakes.

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  21. Fist of Etiquette   19 hours ago

    Despite the fact that they were not born or raised in America, Zohran Mamdani's mother was welcomed as a student at Harvard and his father is a professor at Columbia...

    This is, of course, an argument against such permissive immigration, considering what damage their entry into the country is inflicting on its largest city.

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    1. But SkyNet is a Private Company   19 hours ago

      Now do Ilhan Omar and family. Or the Mexican Flag Wavers. Or the Palestinian campus agitators the Reasonistas keep simping for.
      It’s almost as if taking in tens of millions of economic migrants from shithole countries who are hostile to our way of life as asylum seekers isn’t all it’s cracked up to be in these here pages! Food Trucks be damned.

      I mean, look at Europe

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  22. Fist of Etiquette   19 hours ago

    25% of the signers of the "Economists for Zohran" letter are not even economists.

    Like that matters.

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    1. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   19 hours ago

      “What is an economist?”

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      1. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   18 hours ago

        Don’t ask me, I’m not a biologist.

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        1. Jefferson Paul   18 hours ago

          Lol.

          That should be the new response to any question one doesn't want to answer.

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      2. TrickyVic (old school)   18 hours ago

        Fair question since democrats can't define journalist either.

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        1. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   18 hours ago

          But Reason can: People who agree with me that get special privileges.

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    2. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   19 hours ago

      Well all muzzies are liars and all Marxists are liars. As are all of the things that support them

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      1. Mother's Lament - (Sarc's a Nazi, not even joking)   17 hours ago

        I don't know. A lot of YouTube Marxists are pretty insistent that they are the only real truth-tellers.

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    3. Gaear Grimsrud   19 hours ago

      As long as they identify as economists we're not allowed to judge their lived experience.

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    4. Randy Sax   19 hours ago

      Home economics teachers?

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      1. Dillinger   17 hours ago

        mine portrayed tradwife three decades before tiktok

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  23. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   19 hours ago

    How about we deport the trash Marxist ragheads?

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  24. Sometimes a Great Notion   19 hours ago

    This is hilarious. 25% of the signers of the "Economists for Zohran" letter are not even economists.

    New amendment: Must take out a performance bond to sign these letters.

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  25. Eeyore   19 hours ago

    Somebody had to have a conniption.

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    1. InsaneTrollLogic (Muting Sarc like he mutes us)   18 hours ago

      I've always heard about people having a conniption but I've never seen one. You don't want to see 'em. My wife's face... split. My wife's face split, and the skin and hair split and came off of her face so that there was nothing except the skull. And orange light came out of her hair and there was glitter all around. And fire shot from her eye sockets and began to burn my stomach and she said, "WHERE DID THEY GET CHOCOLATE CAKE FROM?"

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  26. MWAocdoc   18 hours ago

    "... some of the representatives who say they were bullied into passing President Donald Trump's domestic agenda ..."

    Just the kind of Americans I want to stand shoulder to shoulder with at the barricades or share a foxhole with defending the Constitution of the United States of America against all enemies.

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  27. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   18 hours ago

    More ripples of doom:

    JUST IN: United States announces new trade deal with Vietnam.

    https://mobile.x.com/BRICSinfo/status/1940424167251448203

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    1. Mother's Lament - (Sarc's a Nazi, not even joking)   17 hours ago

      WHEN WILL THIS ECONOMIC NIGHTMARE END???

      Does Sarc know? He must be devastated.

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      1. InsaneTrollLogic (Muting Sarc like he mutes us)   17 hours ago

        Sarc is too chickenshit to go into the Roundup thread anymore.

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  28. Longtobefree   18 hours ago

    "Lia Thomas, the male-to-female transgender swimmer, will be stripped of all swimming titles won from the University of Pennsylvania"

    OR

    Lia Thomas, the male swimmer cheating against women, will be stripped of all swimming titles fraudulently won from the University of Pennsylvania

    To repeat; there is no such thing as transgender.
    There are men playacting as women, there are women playacting as men, but men are men and women are women.
    And, oh by the way, the earth is not flat.

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    1. Dillinger   18 hours ago

      even halfway across Kansas it grades upwards slightly towards the Rockies.

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      1. Ajsloss   17 hours ago

        Good thing too. Can't have everyone constantly orgasming.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQoRfieZJxI

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        1. Dillinger   17 hours ago

          o ya. hilarious.

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      2. InsaneTrollLogic (Muting Sarc like he mutes us)   17 hours ago

        Has to go west to get an orogeny.

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    2. InsaneTrollLogic (Muting Sarc like he mutes us)   17 hours ago

      Funny, I always thought it was, “men are men, the women are too, and the sheep are nervous.”

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  29. Dillinger   18 hours ago

    >>Zohran Mamdani doesn't understand what New York's families need

    occurred to me while you patty-cake with this joker every morning Reason's support of Khalil fuels Mamdani's "surge" so maybe you should confront Sullum and maybe a mirror

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    1. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   17 hours ago

      No other issues relate to this mayoral race.

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  30. Dillinger   18 hours ago

    >>Happy America Day, everyone! Wouldn't Jefferson be proud?

    probably so for various reasons other than 535 pet projects and their Projectionists ... likely those assholes would receive an earful

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  31. Dillinger   17 hours ago

    >>Me, on why Zohran Mamdani and other socialists like him don't understand what families actually want and need.

    does it include whether Reason's benefactors back Mamdani?

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  32. Dillinger   17 hours ago

    >>A family living close to an ill-managed landfill in southern California

    was there no other parcel of land available in all of Tuscany?

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  33. Dillinger   17 hours ago

    >>stripped of all swimming titles

    see that's not right. he won the races he was sanctioned to swim in. Clown College should be penalized yes but the insane dude isn't liable.

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    1. Ajsloss   17 hours ago

      Yeah, and Lia beat their brains out!

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOwfLUmvwQg

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      1. Dillinger   17 hours ago

        fucking love that one. "it's supposed to be a power plant, not Aunt Beulah's Bordello. get. out."

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  34. Uncle Jay   16 hours ago

    "Hold outs?"
    More "Hold Ups"...of the American taxpayers.

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  35. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   15 hours ago

    I look forward to Reason’s coverage, particularly Sullum since this was his beat at the time:

    BREAKING: In a Dec. 29, 2016 email, the CIA's deputy director for analysis warned director Brennan that inclg the debunked Steele dossier in the classified ICA risked "the credibility of the entire paper," but Brennan insisted: "The information warrants inclusion in the report."

    https://mobile.x.com/paulsperry_/status/1940469087567552875

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  36. InsaneTrollLogic (Muting Sarc like he mutes us)   14 hours ago

    Anyone notice how the volume of Roundup comments has gone way down after Sarc and the Fat Man decided not to comment in the Roundup anymore?

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    1. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   13 hours ago

      Seems Lying Jeffy is sticking to the open borders beat. Maybe his bosses told him they’re not going to pay him for bullshit on other topics.

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    2. Dillinger   13 hours ago

      when was that? he called me some kind of liar just yesterday

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    3. Medulla Oblongata   12 hours ago

      Wow, you're right, not a grey box in the whole thing today!

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    4. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   12 hours ago

      Not missed.

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