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Reason Roundup

Will He, Won't He

Plus: Iran strikes an Israeli hospital, Social Security and Medicare are still running out of money, Trump erects a giant flagpole, and more…

Christian Britschgi | 6.19.2025 9:53 AM

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President Donald Trump continues to toy with the idea of going to war with Iran. "I may do it, I may not do it," he told reporters at the White House Wednesday in response to a question about whether the U.S. would strike Iranian nuclear facilities.  

The Wall Street Journal reports that on Tuesday the president finalized an attack plan for Iran but has yet to make a final decision on whether to go through with it. Administration officials say they're considering a range of options, per the Journal's reporting.

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In his White House remarks, Trump put the blame for the conflict on Iran's failure to come to an agreement on its nuclear program, saying, "All this death and destruction. Why didn't you negotiate with me? You would have done fine. You would have had a country."    

Iran and its allies have promised to target American military personnel and civilians wherever they can if the U.S. does enter the war.

"If they decide to be engaged militarily, direct military involvement in this massacre, definitely we will do whatever necessary to protect ourselves," said Iranian Deputy Foreign Minister Majid Takht-Ravanchi to CNN's Christiane Amanpour.

Iranian-backed militias in Iraq have been staging anti-American demonstrations. The leader of one of the largest Iranian-backed groups said that they would attack American civilians and military personnel if Iranian Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei is assassinated (something Trump threatened to do earlier this week).

The Secretary General of Al-Nujaba, one of Iraq's most powerful Iranian-backed armed groups, threatens to target every American in the region - civilian or military - and strike US bases in Iraq if Iran's Supreme Leader is assassinated by Israel or Washington. pic.twitter.com/Dj0z76z37o

— Lawk Ghafuri (@LawkGhafuri) June 19, 2025

There are some 40,000 active duty U.S. military personnel stationed in the Middle East that could be targeted by Iranian attacks. American officials told The New York Times that Iran had prepared missiles and other military equipment for strikes on U.S. bases in the region.

Israeli hospital hit. An Iranian missile hit Soroka Medical Center in Beersheba, Israel, on Thursday morning. The hospital, the largest in southern Israel, said on social media that the strike had caused "extensive damage."

Elsewhere, Iranian munitions fell on several residential areas near Tel Aviv, reports The Washington Post, resulting in 40 people being injured, including two people seriously injured.

Missile hit a street in Ramat Gan (geo above roughly exact)

Heavy damage to shops, homes, and an apartment building. pic.twitter.com/58Xmp706IU

— OSINTtechnical (@Osinttechnical) June 19, 2025

Earlier today, Israel bombed Iran's Arak heavy water reactor, part of the country's nuclear program.   

A Washington-based human rights group reports that 639 people in Iran have been killed by Israeli strikes and another 1,300 have been wounded, reports CBS. Another 24 Israelis have been killed by Iranian missile and drone attacks.

"We will exact the full price from the tyrants in Tehran," said Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on social media, per a Google translation, in response to the Soroka strike.

הבוקר, רודני הטרור של איראן שיגרו טילים לעבר בית החולים סורוקה בבאר שבע ולעבר אוכלוסייה אזרחית במרכז הארץ.

נגבה את מלוא המחיר מהרודנים בטהרן.

— Benjamin Netanyahu - בנימין נתניהו (@netanyahu) June 19, 2025

After the recent Iranian strikes, Israeli Defense Minister Israel Katz said that Khamenei, Iran's leader, "absolutely should not continue to exist."

Running out of money. The Social Security program is eight years away from insolvency, according to the latest annual report from the Trustees of the Social Security and Medicare.

The trustees' report says that Social Security's Old-Age and Survivors Insurance fund will be able to pay 100 percent of benefits through 2033, after which it will only have enough income to pay 77 percent of benefits.

"Social Security is barreling towards insolvency. If policymakers fail to act, they will effectively be supporting a 23 percent across-the-board benefit cut for all retirees in just eight years," said the Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget (CRFB) in their analysis of the report.

The CRFB analysis says that the long-term outlook for Social Security is worsening, thanks to the passage of the Social Security Fairness Act last year. That law allows retired public sector employees—who'd been excluded from Social Security benefits and Social Security taxes by virtue of having a state- or local-funded pension—to receive Social Security benefits.

Medicare's Hospital Insurance Trust Fund, which pays for inpatient hospital care for Medicare beneficiaries, is likewise scheduled to be insolvent in eight years. The program would only be able to pay 89 percent of benefits come 2033, according to the latest trustee report.


Scenes from D.C.: Workers erected two giant 88-foot-tall flag poles on the White House's north and south lawns yesterday. Previously, the White House had sported a smaller flag on the roof. President Donald Trump visited with the workers putting up the flag and chatted with reporters about whether he'd start a war with Iran.

Two new flagpoles now rise at the White House — proud, unwavering, and free. This isn't just a symbol; it's the American story — written in sacrifice, stitched with courage, and raised for all the world to see.

???????? One nation. Under God. Forever proud. pic.twitter.com/TaCTuF9NON

— The White House (@WhiteHouse) June 19, 2025


QUICK LINKS

  • National Review's Michael Brendan Dougherty on three "red flag" arguments for the U.S. joining Israel's war with Iran.
  • The Cato Institute's Alex Nowrasteh on how U.S. intervention in Iran could create the largest refugee crisis since World War II.
  • Doug Bandow on whether Trump will abandon an "America First" foreign policy by attacking Iran.
  • Reason's Matthew Petti on how a war with Iran would not be a quick, simple affair.
  • A Washington Post survey finds only 25 percent of respondents favor a U.S. strike on Iran.

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  1. Fist of Etiquette   9 hours ago

    WELL LOOK WHO FINALLY ROLLED OUT OF BED.

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    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   9 hours ago

      Dude, don't you sleep in on Juneteenth?

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      1. Mother's Lament - (Sarc's a Nazi, not even joking)   7 hours ago

        America Celebrates Juneteenth, The Day Republicans Freed All The Democrats' Slaves

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        1. Mike Parsons   1 hour ago

          Trump could troll pretty well with something like:

          "Black people, thank a White American today, on Juneteenth. For since whites were the all powerful, white supremacist overlords we have been told they are, there would be no possible way for blacks to have ever been free but by the grace of whites. So thank a honky today!"

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    2. Medulla Oblongata   9 hours ago

      Yep, late again!

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    3. Spiritus Mundi   8 hours ago

      Everybody is on CP time for juneteenth.

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    4. Dillinger   8 hours ago

      isn't he out in Orange County or something?

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    5. Steve@mozmail.com   2 hours ago

      WHERE'S LIZ?

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  2. Fist of Etiquette   9 hours ago

    President Donald Trump continues to toy with the idea of going to war with Iran.

    The moment he finally became presidential.

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    1. Sometimes a Great Notion   9 hours ago

      Needs more bullhorn.

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    2. mad.casual   9 hours ago

      After war with Iran was carefully handcrafted by the artisans working diligently in the Obama-Biden administration, finely polished by "Undocumented Immigrant Religious Scholar" Oct. 7th protesters, and then handed to him by a media asking him to play with it... he continues to toy.

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  3. Fist of Etiquette   9 hours ago

    ...the president finalized an attack plan for Iran but has yet to make a final decision on whether to go through with it.

    He's waiting to see if Captain Pete Mitchell can train pilots to get the job done.

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    1. Fist of Etiquette   9 hours ago

      IF NO ONE GETS THIS THEN YOU CAN ALL GO TO HELL FOR BEING UNAMERICAN.

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      1. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   9 hours ago

        I used to bullseye womp rats in my T-16 back home.

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        1. Jerry B.   8 hours ago

          But seriously. Who speaks for the womp rats?

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      2. Sometimes a Great Notion   9 hours ago

        Goosing the commentators?

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        1. Fist of Etiquette   8 hours ago

          Wrong RIO.

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          1. Sometimes a Great Notion   8 hours ago

            Damn wiper snapper, you take that back. Nothing was wrong about the OG RIO (except maybe the volleyball scene).

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            1. Fist of Etiquette   7 hours ago

              But he wasn't a captain then and the enemy wasn't someone who had an underground nuclear facility and hand-me-down Tomcats.

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      3. Dillinger   7 hours ago

        negative Ghost Rider the pattern is full.

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        1. Fist of Etiquette   7 hours ago

          Goddamn son of a bitch.

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        2. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcs Kampf mit der Realität)   7 hours ago

          Goddamn that guy

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  4. Don't look at me! (I miss having inflation)   9 hours ago

    Workers erected two giant 88-foot-tall flag poles

    Heh heh, he said erected.

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    1. Randy Sax   9 hours ago

      We work with a lot of steel erection companies, and we had to tell our IT contractor to whitelist the word "erection" in our email firewall, because we kept missing emails from them.

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      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   9 hours ago

        "Whitelist"? Sounds double-plus racist to me.

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        1. Dillinger   8 hours ago

          "why can't they be called white holes?"

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      2. Sometimes a Great Notion   9 hours ago

        I'm just glad DEI is dead/dying. Male and Female fittings being re-labled into 15 different genders would have been a nightmare.

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        1. mad.casual   9 hours ago

          In college at a LAN party once, we set this drunk guy up with an RJ45 T568A/B crossover cable and told him it was a straight 568B ethernet cable. After an hour of embarrassing himself, he gave up and forbid us all from talking about it to anyone ever again.

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          1. But SkyNet is a Private Company   8 hours ago

            The thing about connectors is they started identifying with 30 different pins. No wonder they were all single and unhappy, Who could keep up

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          2. Quicktown Brix   7 hours ago

            Worst. college. party. ever.

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          3. This Is The Zodiac Speaking   5 hours ago

            Token Ring or die

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            1. mad.casual   3 hours ago

              Hermaphroditic connectors with locking clips? You. Disgusting. Sicko.

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        2. This Is The Zodiac Speaking   5 hours ago

          Haaaaaa. "Yeah, we can't run the electrical to the IDF because the connector is two-spirit, but the project specs stated gender-queer connection. "

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      3. Quicktown Brix   7 hours ago

        A whitelist for erections? Admit it. It had nothing to do with missing emails. It was because the blacklist made you feel inferior, wasn't it?

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    2. Mother's Lament - (Sarc's a Nazi, not even joking)   9 hours ago

      Just like Hitler. Sure Hitler took down the German black-red-gold and replaced them with swastikas instead, but Old Glory is essentially the swastika according to smart people on Bluesky.

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  5. Fist of Etiquette   9 hours ago

    Iranian-backed militias in Iraq have been staging anti-American demonstrations.

    Iran has been using proxies in other countries??? When did this start?

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    1. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   9 hours ago

      539 BC?

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  6. Fist of Etiquette   9 hours ago

    An Iranian missile hit Soroka Medical Center in Beersheba, Israel, on Thursday morning.

    Get Hamas to estimate the causalities.

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    1. Don't look at me! (I miss having inflation)   9 hours ago

      Better do it before the generator runs out of fuel.

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      1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   9 hours ago

        So by next decade?

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    2. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   9 hours ago

      Eleventy bajillion children dead

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      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   9 hours ago

        And without a chance to affirm their genders.

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    3. Fist of Etiquette   9 hours ago

      ALLAH-DAMNED AUTO CORRECT. Casualties.

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    4. Minadin   9 hours ago

      That's weird, I thought only Israelis targeted hospitals.

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  7. Don't look at me! (I miss having inflation)   9 hours ago

    The CRFB analysis says that the long-term outlook for Social Security is worsening, thanks to the passage of the Social Security Fairness Act last year. That law allows retired public sector employees—who'd been excluded from Social Security benefits and Social Security taxes by virtue of having a state- or local-funded pension—to receive Social Security benefits.

    Thanks to Otto Penn.

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    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   9 hours ago

      And the usual union dick-suckers.

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    2. Vernon Depner   8 hours ago

      That law allows retired public sector employees—who'd been excluded from Social Security benefits and Social Security taxes by virtue of having a state- or local-funded pension—to receive Social Security benefits.

      That is false.

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      1. Don't look at me! (I miss having inflation)   7 hours ago

        It is not
        The Social Security Fairness Act, signed into law on January 5, 2025, eliminates the Windfall Elimination Provision (WEP) and Government Pension Offset (GPO). This means that public sector employees who also receive pensions from jobs not covered by Social Security, like teachers, firefighters, and police officers, may see an increase in their Social Security benefits. The WEP and GPO previously reduced or eliminated benefits for some retirees.

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        1. Vernon Depner   6 hours ago

          But that's not what Britschgi said. What he said was false.

          https://reason.com/2025/06/19/will-he-wont-he/?comments=true#comment-11095631

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  8. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   9 hours ago

    The iatola believe that for the 12th imam to come the world has to be destroyed in an apocoliptic war. They are the last group you want to get a nuke

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    1. Use the Schwartz   8 hours ago

      I know your "Y" key isn't stuck, you use it in all the other words.

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      1. EISTAU Gree-Vance   3 hours ago

        Nuh uh. Didn’t use it in apocalyptic.

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  9. Earth-based Human Skeptic   9 hours ago

    '"I may do it, I may not do it," he told reporters at the White House Wednesday in response to a question about whether the U.S. would strike Iranian nuclear facilities.'

    WHERE'S A NOBLE GENERAL WHO WILL PROMISE TO CALL THE AYATOLLAH BEFORE WE LAUNCH ANY ATTACK?

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    1. Kungpowderfinger   8 hours ago

      Counting his stacks of cash apparently:

      https://www.semafor.com/article/05/07/2024/military-generals-report-for-duty-on-wall-street

      I can see how having a Full and Unconditional Presidential Pardon could be seen as a plus in those areas of employment.

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  10. Earth-based Human Skeptic   9 hours ago

    'Iranian-backed militias in Iraq have been staging anti-American demonstrations. The leader of one of the largest Iranian-backed groups said that they would attack American civilians and military personnel if Iranian Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei is assassinated'

    Can we interest these guys in some free pagers and walkie-talkies?

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  11. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   9 hours ago

    Fix for social security
    Every 2 years raise the minimum retirement age by 1 year until the eligibility age is 4 years above the median life expectancy.

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    1. Randy Sax   9 hours ago

      Just kill it. The program entirely.

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      1. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   9 hours ago

        I'm looking for something that is remotely possible to pass.

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        1. Randy Sax   9 hours ago

          No reform has a snowball's chance to pass. Have to let it die out "naturally", unfortunately.

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        2. Sometimes a Great Notion   9 hours ago

          Then you already lost the deal. You got to go in at least demanding the best deal possible.

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        3. Vernon Depner   8 hours ago

          Nothing will pass. The massive deficits and debt will continue to balloon until our financial system collapses. Stock your bunker, or be prepared to check out.

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    2. Sometimes a Great Notion   9 hours ago

      Alternate Fix: Stop stealing my money each week and I'll handle my own retirement.

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      1. The Angry Hippopotamus   7 hours ago

        What this guy said

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  12. Earth-based Human Skeptic   9 hours ago

    'An Iranian missile hit Soroka Medical Center in Beersheba, Israel, on Thursday morning. The hospital, the largest in southern Israel, said on social media that the strike had caused "extensive damage."'

    Probably a legitimate military target. The rag heads always build hospitals combined with ammo bunkers and missile launchers, so I assume the Israelis do, too.

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  13. Mother's Lament - (Sarc's a Nazi, not even joking)   9 hours ago

    President Donald Trump continues to toy with the idea of going to war with Iran. "I may do it, I may not do it," he told reporters at the White House Wednesday in response to a question about whether the U.S. would strike Iranian nuclear facilities.

    "Watch out! I'm a loose cannon, Iran! You'll never know what I'm gonna do next, Iran!"

    The fact that Britches doesn't recognize what Trump is doing here makes me wonder if he was homeschooled.

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    1. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   9 hours ago

      No, if he was home schooled he probably would have caught what trump is doing

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      1. Mother's Lament - (Sarc's a Nazi, not even joking)   9 hours ago

        Homeschoolers are better educated than most but unfamiliar with schoolboy bully tactics.

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      2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   9 hours ago

        Depends. Some two-mom home schools are probably just as infected with TDS as your typical union public school.

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        1. Zeb   9 hours ago

          Yeah, homeschool isn't just conservatives and christians. Plenty of hippy-dippies too.

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          1. This Is The Zodiac Speaking   5 hours ago

            Hart Family. Notoriously home schooled until Toonces was allowed to drive

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    2. Don't look at me! (I miss having inflation)   9 hours ago

      He’s obviously not very bright.

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    3. Sometimes a Great Notion   9 hours ago

      So he a absolutely won't go to war without Congressional approval, good. But then not much of a bluff is it.

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      1. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   9 hours ago

        Lol.

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    4. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   9 hours ago

      The first rule of warfare is to tell your enemies all your plans. - Sun Tzu

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    5. mad.casual   9 hours ago

      When *I* assume "I may do it, I may not do it," is a "yes", I get labelled as a lecherous misogynist, but when Britches does it, it's because Trump is a warmonger whose skirt is too short.

      We need an E. Jean Caroll to "maybe, maybe not" as to whether Britches "bought her some department store underwear" in a changing room 40 yrs. ago.

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    6. damikesc   6 hours ago

      Doesn't seem to know how diplomacy works.

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  14. Earth-based Human Skeptic   9 hours ago

    'A Washington-based human rights group reports that 639 people in Iran have been killed by Israeli strikes and another 1,300 have been wounded'

    Genocide!

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    1. Don't look at me! (I miss having inflation)   9 hours ago

      If they don’t amp up the game, this is going to take forever.

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  15. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   9 hours ago

    Passports ruled to be biased.

    https://justthenews.com/government/courts-law/judge-blocks-trump-administration-policy-mandating-biological-m-or-f-passport

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    1. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   9 hours ago

      This decision will probably be upheld by the Supreme Court.

      — D. Root

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      1. Dillinger   7 hours ago

        likely, with this 7-2 Court

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    2. Mother's Lament - (Sarc's a Nazi, not even joking)   9 hours ago

      Well, at least these Soros judges are keeping the higher courts busy.

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    3. Idaho-Bob   9 hours ago

      Kobick wrote that six plaintiffs “demonstrated that they are likely to suffer irreparable harm if the Passport Policy is not enjoined.”

      Irreparable harm has already happened.

      Passports are for (generally) international travel. Did anyone consider what some countries would do if passports are not marked male or female? Or is this simply tranny virtue signal bullshit?

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      1. mad.casual   9 hours ago

        Irreparable harm has already happened.

        Arguably, not enough.

        Did anyone consider that the whole border/sex trafficking/sex discrimination/gender discrimination thing doesn't get any better for anyone if all the documents say, "I didn't see nothing."

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        1. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   8 hours ago

          All precedent says that harm must be specific and real and not abstract or speculative.

          Transgender and non-binary people who possess passports bearing sex markers that conflict with their gender identity and expression are, as Dr. Scheim explained, significantly more likely to experience psychological distress, suicidality, harassment, discrimination, and violence.

          All of which is purely speculative.

          Can I petition the court to require the DMV to issue me a driver's license without my picture because having my picture taken causes me psychological distress? Scopophobia is clinically recognized.

          Are we going to discriminate among sources of psychological distress for legal purposes? Maybe we can we set them all aside and go with what works for 99.7% of the population?

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          1. This Is The Zodiac Speaking   5 hours ago

            You want make her
            Suicidality blond
            Love devastation
            Suicidality blond

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            1. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   2 hours ago

              +1 for paraphrasing lyrics sung by an unintentional suicide.

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      2. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   9 hours ago

        Let them check Xer then fly them to Iran.

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    4. Sometimes a Great Notion   9 hours ago

      Maybe not dead quick enough.

      Sometimes a Great Notion 17 minutes ago
      I'm just glad DEI is dead/dying. Male and Female fittings being re-labled into 15 different genders would have been a nightmare.

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    5. damikesc   2 hours ago

      So, a judge rules we might provide false information on a passport?

      This is the problem. We cannot have hundreds of jackass judges able to overrules anything done. Trump needs to say he will abide by injunctions passed by a majority of SCOTUS and none others.

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  16. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   9 hours ago

    The story of how Mossad got into Iranian back channels and lured the top 20 Iranian officials who could order ballistic strikes in response so mossad could blow up the bunker.

    https://redstate.com/bonchie/2025/06/18/how-israel-lured-irans-top-generals-to-their-deaths-will-blow-your-mind-n2190651

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    1. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   9 hours ago

      I’m still very skeptical of the whole “They’ll see us as liberators” talking point being used again, but the amount of support Israel seems to have within Iran is pretty interesting.

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      1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   9 hours ago

        I would estimate half support the regime and half want them deposed.

        Don't get me wrong. Still dont want the US engaging. But amazing what Israel did to take out their defenses to limit retaliation.

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        1. Vernon Depner   8 hours ago

          Yes—the men support the regime; the women want it deposed.

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          1. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   6 hours ago

            Apparently the exiled crown prince still has a following, but I don’t know the veracity of that.

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  17. Medulla Oblongata   9 hours ago

    "And to hear the lamentations of the women..."

    Joy and Sunny tried to stop him, but he pushed through.

    https://theblast.com/694307/arnold-schwarzenegger-immigration-the-view/

    "You are an immigrant yourself - an immigrant of the country," Behar said. "Did you have a visceral reaction to what they're doing - what ICE is doing?"

    Rather than launching into a long tirade criticizing the government, Schwarzenegger began by reflecting on his own immigration story and expressed his gratitude to America for all he has achieved since moving to the country over 50 years ago.

    "I'm so proud and happy that I was embraced by the American people like that," he told the panel.

    "Imagine - I came here at the age of 21 with absolutely nothing. And then to create a career like that," Schwarzenegger added, referencing his political, film, and bodybuilding career. "I mean, in no other country in the world could you do that. All of this is because of America."

    The former governor continued, "You've got to do things legal, and those people that are doing illegal things in America, and they're the foreigners, they are not smart, because, when you come to America, you're a guest, and you have to behave like a guest."

    To drive his point home, Schwarzenegger shared an analogy about how a guest in someone's home is expected to behave.

    "When I go to someone's house, and I'm a guest, then I will do everything I can," Schwarzenegger stressed. "Keep things clean and to make my bed and to do everything that is the right thing to do rather than committing a crime, or being abusive or something like that, so that doesn't really work in this country."

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    1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   9 hours ago

      He also had an op ed yesterday saying he supportsegal not illegal immigration.

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    2. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   9 hours ago

      In other words”The View” news:

      Holy shit, Whoopi Goldberg said it’s not different to live in the US and Iran in 2025. How can you be this clueless? Her co-host, who has Iranian heritage, is trying to point out that women can’t even dress like she is on the show. Gets shouted down:

      https://x.com/ClayTravis/status/1935364540381700169

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      1. Don't look at me! (I miss having inflation)   8 hours ago

        Chicks be crazy.

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      2. Marshal   6 hours ago

        Recognize it as performance art. When feminists get together they talk about how evil men are and the "winner" is the person with the most outrageous story to support that. That's how we ended up with the UVA Rape Hoax which claimed (among other absurdities) this frat used gang rape as an initiation ritual.
        "America is the Worst" is the theme for the same process for anti-American crowd.

        This is why being willing to look stupid in public is a key attribute for an activist.

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        1. This Is The Zodiac Speaking   5 hours ago

          Truer words..

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      3. damikesc   2 hours ago

        Never forget this is a show run by ABC News. Not Entertainment.

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  18. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   9 hours ago

    FBI emails showed they were obsessed with piling on charges to go after Trump. Local story but may be of interest.

    https://nypost.com/2025/06/18/opinion/fbi-emails-revealed-to-the-post-expose-biden-dojs-obsession-with-piling-on-trump-charges/

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    1. Mother's Lament - (Sarc's a Nazi, not even joking)   9 hours ago

      Shrug, did Hawley say anything lately? I heard Trump might start WW3.

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      1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   9 hours ago

        I'm just glad patel is allowed to do the same given the first law of sarcasia.

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  19. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   9 hours ago

    Reform education and SEL pushed under Obama are making kids dumber. Blue states fall behind.

    https://www.city-journal.org/article/education-reform-students-reading-math-republican-states?skip=1

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    1. Mother's Lament - (Sarc's a Nazi, not even joking)   8 hours ago

      Well, they can't rely on scaring black men or Hispanics anymore, so they need them stupid.

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      1. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcs Kampf mit der Realität)   8 hours ago

        They might not be able to afford scaring them anymore. Apparently, the DNC has a massive cash crunch.

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        1. Mother's Lament - (Sarc's a Nazi, not even joking)   7 hours ago

          Fucking Trump. USAID was vital for their party coffers.

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  20. Medulla Oblongata   9 hours ago

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/opinion-i-m-mexican-american-and-i-m-done-watching-radicals-disgrace-both-flags/ar-AA1GSw26

    Across cities in California, we have witnessed something deeply disturbing: American citizens, many of Mexican descent, setting fire to vehicles, waving foreign flags, and claiming to protest “injustice.” But let’s call it what it really is — an orchestrated campaign of disrespect, disorder, and destruction. This isn’t civil disobedience. It’s lawlessness masquerading as activism.

    These protestors — many of whom were born in the U.S., speak little Spanish and have visited Mexico only a handful of times if at all — are now using the Mexican flag to fuel their rage. As someone proud of my Mexican heritage and deeply patriotic about my American identity, I find it offensive on both fronts. You do not honor either country by burning down communities and waving a flag you barely understand.

    Even Mexico’s own president has extended an open invitation for these individuals who apparently despise America so much to return. Yet they refuse. They shout “¡Viva México!” in the streets of America while rejecting the very idea of living in the country they claim to love. That’s not patriotism — it’s performance.

    It would be absurd to go to Mexico, riot in the streets, and wave the American flag in protest. It would be seen as disrespectful, and rightfully so. The same principle applies here. If you truly respect your roots, you honor both countries. You don’t burn one down while pretending to praise the other.

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    1. Randy Sax   8 hours ago

      "While I love America, I sure as fuck don't like it."

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  21. BioBehavioral_View   9 hours ago

    Ignoring The Truth

    “Mundus vult decipi, ergo decipiatur. The world wants to be deceived, so let it be deceived.” -Petronius (1st-century A.D.)

    Listening to the so-called news about the Iranian-Israel? You are being deceived. How? Little mention, if any, of the fundamental force driving the Iranians to develop nuclear weapons with which to destroy Israel, these United States, and the rest of Western Civilization. That fundamental force is their religion, Mohammedanism (Islam).

    Iranian adversaries are dealing with religious fanatics. Yes, the Iranian quest for power is Persian control of the Middle East, but it is more than such a limited quest. Mohammedanism is a religion of war, a fact to which most commentators seem blind in their spewing arrogant utterances of ignorance.

    “Believers, make war on the infidels who dwell around you. Deal firmly with them. Know that God is with the righteous.” -The Recital (The Koran), Repentance 9:123

    When the mullahs label these United States, they mean it. When they pledge to destroy these United States, they mean it. When they encourage their followers to slay the infidels, they mean it. Once again, Israel is doing the dirty-work for the rest of the non-Mohammedan world.

    Yet, only America military might can destroy Iranian nuclear capacity. Even then bombs without invasion are no guarantee. Either we destroy Iran, or Iran will destroy us. The Iranian people who oppose the regime appear unable or unwilling to overthrow their tyrannical masters. In order to destroy Iran, military men such as General Wesley Clark advise American action sooner not later to obviate a preëmptory, Iranian strike against American interests. Eliminating the Iranian nuclear threat is putting America first.

    See "The Ultimate Gamble: Existence" at the website, Nation On Fire.

    https://www.nationonfire.com/israeli-existence/ .

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    1. Chinny Chin Chin   9 hours ago

      the "end of the Neocon era" was so last-month

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      1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   8 hours ago

        They all joined your team.

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        1. Mother's Lament - (Sarc's a Nazi, not even joking)   8 hours ago

          Buttplug and Cheney sitting in a tree,
          K - I - S - S - I - N - G,

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          1. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcs Kampf mit der Realität)   8 hours ago

            First come the lies
            Next comes the bullshit
            Then comes Pluggo in a war carriage

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    2. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   8 hours ago

      “Mohammedanism is a religion of war, a fact to which most commentators seem blind in their spewing arrogant utterances of ignorance.”

      Like who?

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    3. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   5 hours ago

      This was Iran’s prime minister before 1979.

      This is what Islam and the mullahs took away from us.

      https://x.com/SohrabAhmari/status/1935646160875565549

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  22. Medulla Oblongata   9 hours ago

    Local news?

    "Nearly 10,000 Nigerian Christians have been killed by Islamic extremists from November 2022 to November 2024, according to Global Christian Relief.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/200-christians-killed-by-attackers-shouting-allahu-akbar-in-overnight-massacre/ar-AA1GTmhz

    200 Christians Killed by Attackers Shouting 'Allahu Akbar' in Overnight Massacre

    An estimated 200 Christians were killed in Nigeria on Friday according to a Catholic charity.

    The massacre in Nigeria’s Benue State targeted internally displaced families living in shelters, Aid to the Church in Need reported.

    The attack in Yelewata took place with attackers shouting “Allahu Akbar” (a Muslim phrase meaning “god is great”), before indiscriminate killing began.

    Rev. Ukuma Jonathan Angbianbee, the local priest, said he and others barely escaped alive.

    “When we heard the shots and saw the militants, we committed our lives to God. This morning, I thank God I am alive,” he said.

    “What I saw was truly gruesome. People were slaughtered. Corpses were scattered everywhere."

    “There is no question about who carried out the attack. They were definitely Fulanis. They were shouting ‘Allahu Akbar,’” he said, referring to a group of Islamic extremists.

    “The morning after the attack, there were plenty of police and other security, but where were they the previous evening when we needed them?” another priest who was not named said, adding, “This is by far [the] worst atrocity we have seen. There has been nothing even close.”

    “Many families were locked up and burnt inside their bedrooms. So many bodies were burnt beyond recognition,” Amnesty International Nigeria said, according to ABC.

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    1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   9 hours ago

      Not a fact until the Gaza health ministry reports it. Or a Harvard model.

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    2. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   8 hours ago

      One of many such stories in sub-Saharan Africa.

      One might consider calling it a genocide, depending on what definition you were using.

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    3. Mother's Lament - (Sarc's a Nazi, not even joking)   8 hours ago

      "10,000 Christians have been killed by Islamic extremists"

      This is the whole reason progressives like Muslims in the first place.

      If you ever wondered why a bunch of queer activists decided to try to hop into bed with a religion that calls for their death, it's because they've been killing Christians, and the blue hairs hate mom and dad more than they fear death.

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      1. Michael Ejercito   7 hours ago

        These "blue hairs" sure act like the religious right.

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        1. Mother's Lament - (Sarc's a Nazi, not even joking)   4 hours ago

          Really? How so.

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  23. Medulla Oblongata   9 hours ago

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/feds-tracing-money-behind-la-riots-in-expanding-probe/ar-AA1GXWVR

    The Internal Revenue Service (IRS) is “currently tracing money” connected to the recent left-wing riots in Los Angeles in partnership with other agencies, Trump administration officials announced Tuesday.

    IRS, FBI and Department of Justice (DOJ) leaders said in a video posted to X that their agencies are working together to investigate financial support for anti-deportation riots that rocked Los Angeles for several days starting June 6. The unrest has led to nearly $20 million in costs for Los Angeles so far and more than 550 arrests on charges such as resisting, obstructing or delaying, attempted murder, looting and vandalism.

    “We are currently tracing money to determine who is providing funding for these riots,” IRS Special Agent in Charge Tyler Hatcher said. “Funding crime doesn’t just affect the criminals. It also disrupts entire communities … make no mistake, we will identify and disrupt financial networks supporting these criminal activities.”

    FBI Director Kash Patel announced on June 9 that his agency “is investigating any and all monetary connections responsible for these riots.”

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    1. Don't look at me! (I miss having inflation)   8 hours ago

      We can expect to see results after everyone involved is dead.

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    2. Vernon Depner   8 hours ago

      Epstein didn't kill himself.

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  24. Fist of Etiquette   9 hours ago

    The Social Security program is eight years away from insolvency...

    Oh, please. That's what they said about the ice caps.

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    1. Vernon Depner   7 hours ago

      We need another pandemic to cull the retirees.

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  25. Fist of Etiquette   9 hours ago

    Workers erected two giant 88-foot-tall flag poles on the White House's north and south lawns yesterday.

    You know who else liked the number 88?

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    1. Sometimes a Great Notion   9 hours ago

      George HW Bush?

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    2. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   9 hours ago

      Fat people trying the 69 position?

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      1. This Is The Zodiac Speaking   5 hours ago

        ZING. +1

        Ha ha ha .I'm stealing that

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    3. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   8 hours ago

      Al Pacino?

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    4. mad.casual   8 hours ago

      Junior.

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    5. Vernon Depner   7 hours ago

      Jackie Brenston?

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    6. Dillinger   7 hours ago

      Drew Pearson?

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    7. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcs Kampf mit der Realität)   7 hours ago

      Anyone into Chinese numerology?

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    8. MK Ultra   5 hours ago

      My friends when they look at my card after nine holes?

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  26. Medulla Oblongata   9 hours ago

    Just fucking go back to fucking Somalia again then!

    Rep. Ilhan Omar: "We are turning into one of the worst countries on earth"

    https://x.com/EndWokeness/status/1934977875599294636

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  27. Fist of Etiquette   9 hours ago

    The Cato Institute's Alex Nowrasteh on how U.S. intervention in Iran could create the largest refugee crisis since World War II.

    That's what Trump wants Greenland for!

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  28. Medulla Oblongata   9 hours ago

    “I think it’s very different to live in the United States in 2025 than it is to live in Iran in 2025,”

    Whoopi Goldberg replied, “Not if you’re Black.”

    Because skin color is the most important thing in the world, and the woman paid $8M every year to yak on TV for an hour, whose net worth is north of $50M, is SOOOO oppressed in the US. Claiming that being black in America is the same as being gay in Iran is ludicrous.

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/view-hosts-tense-exchange-over-190652291.html

    Griffin emphasized that “the Iranian regime today, in 2025, is nothing compared to the United States,” adding, “It is not even the same — I couldn’t step foot in this outfit in Iran right now.”

    “The year 2025, the United States is nothing like if I stepped foot wearing this outfit in Tehran right now.”

    Goldberg tried multiple times in vain to continue her response as Griffin continued, “No! I can’t have my hair showing. I can’t wear a skirt. I can’t have my arms out.”

    Goldberg took a beat before replying to the former Trump staffer. “And that’s why I am saying that it is the same,” she said. “Murdering someone for their difference is not good whoever does it. It’s not good! So that’s why I said… what I heard is not what you meant.”

    “I think it’s very different to live in the United States in 2025 than it is to live in Iran in 2025,” Griffin said. Goldberg replied, “Not if you’re Black.”

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    1. Randy Sax   9 hours ago

      She's trying to establish black victim hierarchy above the gays.

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      1. mad.casual   8 hours ago

        "Everyone except my race unfairly discriminates against people on the basis of race."

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    2. Kungpowderfinger   8 hours ago

      Let her try to find her fucking Ozempic in Tehran.

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    3. The Average Dude (Who's Smarter Than You)   7 hours ago

      Hard to believe this woman once made funny, or at least enjoyable, comedies as an actress. In all seriousness, I don't know anyone - literally anyone, left, right or center - that takes The View in any way seriously. It's a complete joke. How they're even still around infecting our TV screens I can only surmise is nostalgia.

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      1. Mike Parsons   1 hour ago

        "I don't know anyone - literally anyone, left, right or center - that takes The View in any way seriously. It's a complete joke."

        Its the most reliable LOLcow of the internet today.

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    4. Mike Parsons   1 hour ago

      "Whoopi Goldberg replied, “Not if you’re Black.”"

      Eventually, the dems are going to see that this is a losing position, and back off of it for political purposes, if they ever hope to win again. Watched this hilarious imploding of the "Unfuck America" tour, which essentially completely collapsed after the main organizer had the audacity to *watches clip*, respond to a (B)lack woman in a defensive manner when it was said she and her staff was doing a shitty job organizing. It fully devolved into conversations about making black women feel unsafe, how literally everything a yt person says to a black person can somehow be linked to white supremacy and trigger a black person, because it is inherently unsafe for black people (esp women) to live in this white supremacist world.

      This was a tour, specifically designed, to target YOUNG WHITE MEN, on college campuses, and take back some of the vote share from Charlie Kirk who is scooping them up in droves, and they let the entire thing get derailed by a very simple "EXCUSE ME!! A (B)lack woman is SPEAKING!" gambit

      The dems have to both realize the cancer/poison that they have created by making black women the most kept demographic in America, they have to decide to stop doing it, and they have to push back on this kind of shit from Whoopi et al. The "my child is basically being stalked and lynched by white people, all the time, on any given day" shit needs to be met with a "that's not true, now STFU and sit down"

      Sam Harris did a nice long rant, shortly after Floyd, and brave of him honestly to do so at the time (I know, he's usually a bit of a TDS shitlib), giving great data pushback to all of the nonsense that people like Whoopi are spouting here.

      -If you are black, you have a statistically higher chance of the cops *getting physical* with you during an encounter.
      -If you are white, you have a statistically higher chance of the cops *shooting and killing* you during an encounter.
      -Black people seem like they are being shot more frequently because the news focuses on literally every case and literally none of the white people
      -If there is any increased disparity, its because black people commit 50% of the violent crime in the country, leading to a massively outsized number of encounters with police, relative to other races. And this isnt selling weed, its assault, murder, etc.

      He also had an argument with Don Lemon, in which Don was pushing the same "oh woe is me, black people have it the worst" to which Sam shit all over that telling him that because of affirmative action and DEI culture (not what he called it), if you are black and especially black and intelligent, you have literally every advantage. Colleges, the corporate world, everybody is willing to accept a black person with slightly lower credentials than a white, jewish, asian person etc.

      Enough people have to get tired of it, and this kind of pushback has to happen from the people who caused the cancer. The loud retarded black women, plus the insane trans people, steering the DNC off a cliff have to be told to sit down and STFU if they ever hope to win over normal dudes again. No one is buying this shit anymore.

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  29. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   9 hours ago

    "All this death and destruction. Why didn't you negotiate with me? You would have done fine. You would have had a country."

    I am not a Trump fan, but dictator? Authoritarian? Hitler? Go fuck yourself if you think that. He may be stretching the role of the Presidency to try and overcome the shameful refusal of the Congress to act to improve things for Americans, but comparing him to despots is asinine. The guy has genuine compassion.

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    1. mad.casual   8 hours ago

      He's no "You horse-faced pony soldiers would need nuclear weapons to defend yourself from your own government.", that's for sure.

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  30. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   9 hours ago

    Evil:

    “I still hope the baby doesn’t survive more then another day or two.

    People are seriously not understanding the precedent across the country that will happen if the baby survives. It really is the absolute WORST thing that can happen.”

    https://x.com/DobuitaShenmue/status/1935232567105474790

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    1. mad.casual   8 hours ago

      Evil

      Absolute, unequivocal, and plainly displayed for all to see.

      Also. people are "seriously not understanding the precedent across the country that will happen" because it's pea soup nonsense that you're spewing while in openly wishing for an innocent child to die. The law is the precedent. Even if it didn't, Smith is dead and the baby is alive. Either way, the precedent doesn't apply outside of GA or even necessarily this specific case. You don't care about the law or mothers or mothers who suffer strokes or their babies. Everyone can tell by the way you're cheering for the death of this one.

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      1. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   7 hours ago

        Every premature baby that survives is worst case scenario for them. It proves they are in denial about "clumps of cells". The bizarre thing is that there are so many precedents, including people that have testified before Congress, that at this point it is pathological to deny that a fetus is a person.

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        1. mad.casual   3 hours ago

          Even without the "fetus is a person" precept:

          "Smith is dead and I hope her cat and goldfish don't make it through the week either."

          I've killed more cats and fish than I can count... but that's fucked up.

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          1. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   2 hours ago

            Sociopathic.

            I received sonograph images just yesterday of my granddaughter at ~22 weeks. Looking at them right now, I can see a brain, face, arms, hand and fingers. My son has designated us to be guardians of his children if he and his wife were gone.

            My younger son and his wife have had 3 miscarriages.

            You can imagine that I have little tolerance for such rhetoric.

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          2. Mike Parsons   2 hours ago

            "I've killed more cats and fish than I can count"

            ...I have some questions, lol

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    2. Mother's Lament - (Sarc's a Nazi, not even joking)   8 hours ago

      This is how abortion activists really think. They're all monsters.

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    3. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   2 hours ago

      Wonder how bad the ratio was, the motherfucker deleted the tweet.

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  31. Medulla Oblongata   9 hours ago

    Seems like a lovely place...

    https://www.spiked-online.com/2025/06/19/dont-cry-for-irans-theocrats/

    Since Ayatollah Khomeini, the founder of the Islamic Republic, issued a fatwa allowing gender-reassignment surgery in the 1980s, gay people have been under pressure to live as the opposite sex in order to appear to be heterosexual. Iran now carries out more ‘sex change’ operations than any country in the world besides Thailand – a fact that, in 2007, allowed then president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad to boast that there were no homosexuals in Iran.

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    1. Don't look at me! (I miss having inflation)   8 hours ago

      “Off with their dicks!”

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    2. Super Scary   8 hours ago

      I remember hearing about this on an episode of The Blacklist and I thought it was just some silly thing the writer came up with for the episode's twist.

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    3. mad.casual   8 hours ago

      pressure to live as the opposite sex in order to appear to be heterosexual

      [squints] Not sure if gay genocide or trans genocide.

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    4. Mother's Lament - (Sarc's a Nazi, not even joking)   8 hours ago

      Trans ideology was always homophobic.

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    5. Sometimes a Great Notion   7 hours ago

      Mr. President, we need to close the tranny gap!

      - Milley

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  32. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcs Kampf mit der Realität)   8 hours ago

    Apparently the DNC is on the verge of going bankrupt.

    https://dailycaller.com/2025/06/18/dnc-ken-martin-decline-donations/

    The Democratic National Committee (DNC) has been grappling with infighting and a decline in donations in recent months, The New York Times reported Wednesday.

    DNC Chair Ken Martin, who was elected in February, has overseen slowing fundraising from major donors, the NYT reported. Some top DNC officials have even floated the idea of whether it may be necessary to start borrowing money to continue paying the bills, according to the NYT.

    Six anonymous sources told the NYT that major Democratic donors have been extremely slow to donate to the party this year. Additionally, two anonymous sources told the outlet that senior DNC officials have even floated the idea of potentially borrowing money in the coming months.

    Anyone else find it suspicious that the DNC is going broke shortly after the termination of money being laundered through NGOs via USAID?

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    1. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   8 hours ago

      Suspicious isn’t the word I’d use, exactly.

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    2. Vernon Depner   7 hours ago

      The Jews are withholding their donations due to the Dems celebrating antisemitism.

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    3. Sometimes a Great Notion   7 hours ago

      Aye, makes sense why Weingarten quit, now. Nothing left to steal but the copper in the walls and the Teamsters called dibs.

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      1. The Average Dude (Who's Smarter Than You)   7 hours ago

        Lol.

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    4. Mike Parsons   49 minutes ago

      School closures, eliminating AP classes, 'equity' for students
      Lockdowns, looting, rioting
      Trans ideology for kids
      Identity politics
      Completely open borders and simping for actual criminals

      They have leaned hard into every fucking 80/20 issue on the 20 side. Let em burn. Hopefully what comes after is something less dystopian than the current DNC

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  33. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   8 hours ago

    "I may do it, I may not do it,"

    Leaving TDS-addled shit piles the world over wondering what they should blame Trump for this morning.

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    1. Super Scary   8 hours ago

      "Hurry up and pick one so we can say we want the opposite!" they cried.

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  34. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   8 hours ago

    "World now in ‘crunch time’ to avoid higher levels of warming, UN scientists warn"
    [...]
    "UN scientists have warned that the world is in “crunch time” to avoid higher levels of warming beyond the key threshold of 1.5C but that drivers of climate change are “all moving in the wrong direction”..."
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/weather/topstories/just-three-years-left-before-15c-climate-target-slips-out-of-reach-scientists-warn/ar-AA1GYVzM?ocid=BingNewsSerp

    Three years to hit an arbitrary goal someone pulled out of his ass sometime back!

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    1. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcs Kampf mit der Realität)   8 hours ago

      Didn't these chicken littles whine about this for the past 40 years?

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      1. Mother's Lament - (Sarc's a Nazi, not even joking)   8 hours ago

        No more snowfalls by 2000!!!

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    2. Super Scary   8 hours ago

      Why can't a district judge just rule that the climate can't change?

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    3. Michael Ejercito   7 hours ago

      Science shows that the relationship between CO2 and temperature is logarithmic.

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    4. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   6 hours ago

      OMG! I just heard that 78% of the air we are breathing is Nitrogen! They use Nitrogen for CAPITAL PUNISHMENT!

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inert_gas_asphyxiation

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      1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   6 hours ago

        And 100% is CHEMICALS!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    5. Mike Parsons   52 minutes ago

      Maybe ill start counting. I feel like every 3-5 years I hear about another "OK, we past all the previous thresholds, so we are probably fucked, but if we pass this next *big important* threshold, the world is certainly doomed" and life continues to look nearly the same.

      Just a quick little trip down memory lane im recalling 5 times, but im betting its happened so many more.

      Do these people need to go back and read the boy who cried wolf, or chicken little a few more times?

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  35. Fist of Etiquette   8 hours ago

    President Donald Trump visited with the workers putting up the flag...

    He told them to make it high enough so that President Newscum can't get a rainbow flag up there.

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  36. I, Woodchipper   8 hours ago

    "Social Security is barreling towards insolvency. If policymakers fail to act, they will effectively be supporting a 23 percent across-the-board benefit cut for all retirees in just eight years," said the Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget (CRFB) in their analysis of the report.

    They are going to implement some combination of these cuts, increasing the FICA rate, increasing the income cap, increasing the retirement age, and taxing the benefits more if you're not so poor you have to live on cat food.

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  37. DaveH   8 hours ago

    Christian, thank you for *not* telling us what to think about all this. It is a refreshing change from most of your Reason colleagues.

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  38. Vernon Depner   8 hours ago

    That law allows retired public sector employees—who'd been excluded from Social Security benefits and Social Security taxes by virtue of having a state- or local-funded pension—to receive Social Security benefits.

    That is false. The law allows people who worked BOTH jobs in which they paid Social Security taxes AND government jobs with state pensions to receive the full Social Security benefits they earned in their covered jobs. Previously, their Social Security benefits were reduced.

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    1. Gaear Grimsrud   7 hours ago

      Provided the benefit is based only on income that they paid the payroll tax on I don't have a problem with it.

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      1. Vernon Depner   7 hours ago

        That is the case. They get the same benefit as someone who paid in the same amount but never worked a government job.

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        1. Marshal   6 hours ago

          This is misleading. The amount of income required to get "full" social security benefits is exceptionally low, the last time I checked less than 2k/quarter. So we're giving government employees who worked a couple of shifts a month as a second job the same SS benefits as people who worked and paid in based on 60 hours a week. It's a scam giveaway to public employees - which is of course what Dems pushed it through.

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          1. Vernon Depner   5 hours ago

            Bullshit.

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            1. Marshal   3 hours ago

              Social Security credits are the way the Social Security Administration (SSA) tracks your work history and determines your eligibility for retirement, disability, or survivors benefits. You earn these credits by working and paying Social Security taxes. In 2025, you earn one credit for every $1,810 in earnings, up to a maximum of four credits per year. Generally, you need 40 credits (10 years of work) to qualify for retirement benefits, but the number of credits needed for disability benefits varies based on your age when the disability begins.

              Why don't you dig through this and let me know what part of my comment you think was wrong. Or conversely learn to recognize when someone knows what they're talking about.

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  39. Dillinger   8 hours ago

    >>American officials told The New York Times that Iran had prepared missiles and other military equipment for strikes on U.S. bases in the region.

    and if they don't we have the best Department of Dog Wagging on Earth.

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  40. Dillinger   8 hours ago

    >>Israeli hospital hit.

    five bucks there aren't secret tunnels underneath with rockets and hostages and stolen aid food.

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  41. MWAocdoc   8 hours ago

    "Social Security is barreling towards insolvency. If policymakers fail to act, they will effectively be supporting a 23 percent across-the-board benefit cut for all retirees"

    Bring it on! It is clear by now that "policymakers" will continue to fail to act and, personally, I'm glad. If they fix Social Security, they can only do so by raising new tax revenue or by shifting spending from one unconstitutional purpose to another one. This means a wealth transfer from younger working families to older non-productive retired people. The People have eight years to depose the current tyrannical regime and replace it with politicians who will cut unconstitutional spending or watch their Federal investments go up in a puff of smoke, together with the world economy as the US Government declares insolvency and bankruptcy. Good luck, guys!

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    1. Vernon Depner   7 hours ago

      Not a chance in hell this will be fixed.

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  42. Dillinger   8 hours ago

    >>Doug Bandow on whether Trump will abandon an "America First" foreign policy by attacking Iran.

    Doug Bandow on whether Trump will abandon Trump lol

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    1. Vernon Depner   7 hours ago

      Neutralizing a rabid enemy that has vowed to destroy us IS "America First".

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      1. Dillinger   7 hours ago

        peace through superior firepower.

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        1. Vernon Depner   7 hours ago

          That's the only kind of peace anyone has ever enjoyed.

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      2. Zeb   5 hours ago

        I'd say not necessarily. You also need to consider whether the threat is legitimate and likely to be followed through on. Merely having the superior firepower is sufficient to deter most rabid enemies who vow to destroy us. Going to war has enormous downsides and tends to create new enemies.

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  43. Dillinger   7 hours ago

    I would forego future Social Security payments in exchange for immediate stop to withholdings.

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    1. I, Woodchipper   6 hours ago

      this would be a fantastic deal that i would jump at immediately.

      That's why it's not on the table.

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      1. Sometimes a Great Notion   4 hours ago

        Of course not, their is no exchange there. Current system is keep withholding money and never payout for anyone under 50(+-). Maybe exchange a kidney for stopping witholdings.

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    2. Mike Parsons   2 hours ago

      Same. They could do some sort of phasing out, with voluntary deals such as the one you said which technically is a great deal for the gov. Better deal for me (I bet anyways) as I trust the gov will fuck it up so bad I wont get anything anyways.

      I would suggest making a decently generous cutoff, and go from there.

      If you are between 55-65, you get the full deal you paid for
      If you are 45-55, you can either opt out of payments in exchange for no benefits, or you get a reduced benefit when you are eligible.
      If you are <45, dont expect SS. You will pay some tax now, and it will be completely phased out.

      Or some shit like that. Regardless, it should be a very clear reminder that the he govt is corrupt, incompetent, and cannot be trusted with any sort of entitlement program such as SS, without spending way more, for a lesser product, or just flat out embezzling the money for other causes. We should use it as a cautionary tale to future generations that govt cannot be trusted to run a program like this.

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