Have Presidents Grown Too Powerful To Be Removed From Office?
Joe Biden showed that the 25th Amendment doesn't work. Donald Trump showed that impeachment is broken too.

The cover-up of President Joe Biden's cognitive decline is a scandal "maybe worse than Watergate," CNN's Jake Tapper opined recently. In this case, the key question is: "What didn't the president know and when didn't he know it?"
Last week the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee ramped up its efforts to answer these questions. Citing Tapper and Alex Thompson's book, Original Sin: President Biden's Decline, Its Cover-Up, and His Disastrous Choice to Run Again, The committee's chairman, Rep. James Comer (R–Tenn.), issued demand letters to five senior Biden aides and subpoenaed the White House doctor who certified that the president was fit for duty.
He clearly wasn't. Even in 2020, Biden struggled to feign lucidity in tightly scripted Zoom town halls. "He couldn't follow the conversation at all," said top Democrats who saw the raw footage; it "was like watching Grandpa who shouldn't be driving." The four Cabinet members who spoke with Tapper and Thompson described equally scripted Cabinet meetings with a president incapable of answering pre-screened questions without the aid of a teleprompter. One recounted being "shocked by how the president was acting" at a 2024 meeting: "'disoriented' and 'out of it,' his mouth agape." One campaign adviser asked himself after a post-debate conversation with Biden: "What are we doing here? This guy can't form a fucking sentence."
Put more politely, the president was "unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office"—just cause for removal. "This is why we have the 25th Amendment," Sen. Josh Hawley (R–Mo.) said recently, "it's clear now that it probably should have been invoked from the beginning."
That key players instead propped up a semiconscious figurehead, hoping to gaslight their way to reelection, isn't just a scandal—it's a constitutional failure. That failure reveals an uncomfortable truth: As the presidency has grown ever more powerful, even manifestly unfit presidents have become nearly impossible to remove.
'We Dare Not Let That Happen Again'
Ratified in 1967, the 25th Amendment provides two ways the vice president can get the keys from a nonfunctioning president. Under Section 3, the president hands them over voluntarily; under Section 4, the VP can take them away when he or she and a majority of the Cabinet determine that the president is incapacitated.
Section 4 was meant to cover cases of "mental debility," as one of the amendment's architects, Rep. Richard Poff (R–Va.), explained, where the president "is unable or unwilling to make any rational decision…particularly the decision to stand aside." Top of mind was avoiding a replay of the Woodrow Wilson debacle. Leveled by a pair of strokes in 1919, the 28th president spent the remainder of his term bedridden and incommunicado while first lady Edith Wilson essentially ran the executive branch of the government. "We dare not let that happen again," Rep. Emanuel Celler (D–N.Y.) warned during the House debate over the 25th amendment.
Yet it arguably just did. In the six-decade life of the amendment, Biden's presidency is as close as we've come to the paradigmatic Woodrow Wilson case, complete with a latter-day Edith Wilson—Jill Biden—and a clique of advisers the Biden staff dubbed "the Politburo."
The Politburo and the Autopen
An inert president may sound like a libertarian dream. Alas, it's not as if nothing gets done while he's checked out. The New York Times calls concerns about heavy use of the autopen a "conspiracy theory." But if reports from the Heritage Foundation's Oversight Project are accurate, it's at least interesting that, from mid-July 2022 on, most executive orders issued by the administration were signed remotely, even when Biden was in Washington.
Despite the Politburo's efforts to conceal the president's decline, the Cabinet knew. At any point, the vice president and eight Cabinet-level "principal officers" could have moved to replace him via Section 4. Why didn't they?
For one thing, the 25th Amendment's "eject button" is almost impossible to trigger: Even broaching the possibility risks crashing the plane. Any single Cabinet member who disagrees could "short-circuit the process by informing the President, potentially triggering a cascade of firings." (Something similar happened in 1920, when Wilson's secretary of state, Robert Lansing, was forced out for suggesting a transfer of power to Vice President Thomas Marshall.) Another problem is that even with the support of the Cabinet, it was unclear whether Vice President Harris could garner enough GOP votes in Congress to ratify the switch. Without a supermajority of both Houses, Biden would come back from time-out and the firing frenzy would begin.
'Too Big to Fire'
According to Tapper and Thompson, the 25th Amendment solution was never even considered. Instead, the Politburo's reigning calculus was that Biden "just had to win and then he could disappear for four years—he'd only have to show proof of life every once in a while." Meanwhile, the same people hoping to defraud the electorate subjected the rest of us to lectures about threats to "our democracy."
Worse still, it isn't just the 25th Amendment that's broken. The Constitution provides another method for ejecting an unfit president before his term is up: the impeachment process. In the last five years, we've pressure-tested both failsafe mechanisms. Neither one worked.
In his first term, President Donald Trump was impeached twice, the second time for provoking a riot while trying to intimidate Congress and his own vice president into overturning the results of an election he lost. Even that enormity didn't earn him conviction and disqualification in the Senate trial.
The fact that we've never managed to eject a sitting president via the impeachment process suggests that the framers set the bar for removal—conviction by two-thirds of the Senate—too high. For Section 4 of the 25th Amendment, which requires a supermajority of both houses, the bar is even higher.
Lowering the bar to an impeachment conviction—say, to 60 votes—would better protect the public from an abusive president. It would also provide security against a future Biden/Wilson scenario. Though impeachment aims primarily at abuse of power, it was designed as a remedy for presidential unfitness generally: "defending the community against the incapacity, negligence, or perfidy of the Chief Magistrate," as James Madison put it. Properly understood, that covers cases of "mental debility."
If You Can't Fire Him, Shrink the Job
Of course, that reform faces a dauntingly high bar of its own: It would take a constitutional amendment, the prospects for which are dim.
But making presidents easier to fire is only one way to tackle our fundamental problem; the other is to shrink the job. "Incapacity, negligence, and perfidy" in the presidency are bigger threats than ever, because presidents now have the power to reshape vast swaths of American life. They enjoy broad authority to decide what kind of car you can drive, who gets to use which locker room, who is allowed to come to the United States, and whether or not we have a trade war with China—or a hot war with Iran. That's more power than any one fallible human being should have.
Making the presidency safe for democracy will require a reform effort on the scale of the post-Watergate Congresses: reining in emergency powers, war powers, the president's authority over international trade, and his ability to make law with the stroke of a pen. It's a heavy lift, but worth the effort. If we're worried about the damage unfit presidents can do, we should give them fewer things to break.
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Biden was t removed because he was too powerful, but the fact him being brain dead was too convenient. It allowed the unelected to.have the power by proxy.
Ironically reason largely ignored this fact and even spent months saying in investigation or response to go agyer those who abused the system was petty revenge.
And yet another Reason retard openly avows their despise for Democracy and America with the impeachment argument.
It is now known that the impeachment arguments were largely bogus. The public knows it and overwhelmingly supported Trump's re-election in spite of an actual conviction *and* two impeachments... and Gene "Yet another Reatard" Healy insists that the real problem was that the bar was too high for an otherwise intractable Congress, that has deferred much of it's power to the Executive, wasn't able to remove him. He may as well have thrown in the classic, low-brow "And we need to get rid of the Electoral College too!" idiocy along with the kitchen sink while he was at it.
I would say the magazine is a dumpster fire but it was a "mostly peaceful"/PRIVUT KORPORASHUN dumpster fire 5 yrs. ago. At this point its more of just a smoldering crater of radioactive intellectual waste.
I would say the magazine is a dumpster fire but it was a "mostly peaceful"/PRIVUT KORPORASHUN dumpster fire 5 yrs. ago. At this point its more of just a smoldering crater of radioactive intellectual waste.
Seriously, 30 yrs. ago people like Healy, O' Toole and others might have been 40-60 Watt bulbs (~800 lumens for the kids) and pretty warm libertarians 30+ yrs. ago. Unfortunately, their meager luminance, which was good for shining lights in shadowy corners, has dimmed with age and they have gotten more tepid on anything resembling individual liberty. More critically, the majority of people they've been replaced with struggled to rise to 40 watts and are a pretty starkly cold, bluish color-temperature to start out with.
Indeed. Trump was impeached twice and was not thrown from office so the process worked as intended whether or not you like it. Biden was not subjected to the 25th Amendment because he was too powerful, he wasn't subjected to it because the people around him were too powerful and Biden was a stooge they could control. Vast difference and the author of this piece should know this.
Whaaaaa!! Baby cry cry!! Biden was old!! I hates old people!!! Die already!!
Are you drunk like Sarc?
I suspect he has brain damage.
"Remember, the people you're arguing with thought Biden was competent"
Biden did a great job…2020 was a dumpster fire that he inherited and by 2024 everything was running smoothly.
So lame.
Lol, YOU don't even believe that, Pluggo.
BIDEN SYNTAX CLONE DETECTED
Poor Hank doesn’t know what’s happening.
Maybe his caretakers can set up a play date for him and Biden. I do the same thing for my mother’s pet dog.
Conservatives will be destroyed and replaced.
Now there's the Marxist revolutionary death cult talk we love.
Haven't you guys killed enough people today?
Biden showed that if you stock your Cabinet with gay toffs and trans and psychos they will not do their duty.
Pete Buttigieg, Tom Vilsack, Mayorkas...c'mon
See, I didn't mention the woefully inadequate Kamala.
Bessent is the most powerful flamer in history!! And he’s living a fairy life with a Prince Charming husband and 2 test tube embryos culled from 100 embryos and implanted in an Indian surrogate! Oops, I meant “fairy tale” life. 😉
The difference is that Bessent got his job because of his accomplishments not because he is gay like Buttplug and KJP. It sounds like you hate gay people.
No. The Constitution isn't broken.
Democrats are broken.
Democrats tried to weaponize the impeachment process against Trump and deceived everyone about Bidens condition.
Exactly right, TJJ. Tell it like it is!
Hegseth is my dirty dawg that titty fucks nasty style!!! He loves him some tig ol bitties!!! No homo, bro!!!
What's wrong with big titties?
Women don’t like them because they make playing sports more difficult…and eventually they end up hurting their backs.
And some women love them because they can get men to give them stuff and skate through life.
Um...that's not entirely true. Obese ugly women hate them but pretty women do because they can get stuff from men.
"What's wrong with big titties?"
It's Buttplug, what do you think? How many five year olds have big tits?
And since the democrats can’t be repaired, its time to throw them in the garbage.
Hypothesis 1 - The failure to impeach Trump is evidence that the bar for impeachment is too high.
Hypothesis 2 - The failure to impeach Trump is evidence that the alleged misdeeds were insufficient to convince a broad consensus of the population that such a drastic step is required.
The fact that the same journalists are still calling J6 a "riot" but the George Floyd, CHAZ and LA burnings "mostly peaceful protests" suggests that hypothesis 2 might fit the facts better.
The fact that the same journalists are still calling J6 a "riot" but the George Floyd, CHAZ and LA burnings "mostly peaceful protests" suggests that hypothesis 2 might fit the facts better.
Add in DOGE-chaos-pocalypse, Appointments-pocalypse, tariff-pocalypse, and now immigration-pocalypse (sprinkle judiciously with "Constitutional Crisis" and "No Due Process!") in addition to the fact that he's as popular as ever and the fact that Hypothesis 2 isn't the default begins to look between ridiculously stupid and motivated. If it were mid-late 2023, or even early 2024, it might have made some sense, sort of. In 2025, it's just ridiculous.
Even just the framing is retarded. As if Biden or his handlers didn't do anything worthy of being impeached. Just Autopen and Dementia that are only 25th-worthy... and nothing else happened.
The impeaching of Trump repeatedly says that the Democrats are broken, the failure to convict over BS charges and laughable hearsay evidence shows the system works
Impeachment is not a criminal trial. It’s political. Congress is not a jury making a decision on the facts of a case. No, it is a political decision. Failure to impeach only meant that a majority of congresscritters decided not doing so would be better for their reelection campaigns. That’s it. They’re all self serving fucks who only care about keeping their power.
We get it. Youre fine with violating historic norms if the democrats do it. Youre clear on the this.
The Republicans did it first with Andrew Johnson so that makes it OK.
Trump released the transcript…there was no “hearsay”. And if you hate Vindman then that means you believe what Trump did was abuse of power because the transcript was released and so Vindman was ultimately irrelevant.
Now Speaker Johnson’s little anecdote about Biden was hearsay but it ultimately made Biden look good and Johnson look like a clown because we never had an “LNG export pause”.
Lame.
I saw the transcript. Vindman was lying and so are you. Who do you think you're tricking?
So Vindman helped Trump by revealing the truth about Hunter Biden….seems you should support Vindman getting the transcript released??
"Remember, the people you're arguing with thought Biden was competent"
Or people who knew Biden was senile but lied for years.
The Nixon anti-libertarian law entrenched GOP Christian National Socialism and Dem Fabian communism in a Hitler/Nixon, Stalin/Carter monodimensional monofilament LeftanRite Berlin Wall. What needs repeal is the 1971 Nixon campaign purchasing law and the Trumpanzee court corporate election-buying de-scission.
COMSTOCK!
I really hope his family has him confined to an assisted living center for elderly people suffering from late stage dementia.
Can it have a half-assed Oval Office replica so Joe can continue to play President?
Pretty sure he's Buttplug and Sqrlsy's dad.
In his first term, President Donald Trump was impeached twice, the second time for provoking a riot
And I stopped reading. You just telegraphed your punch.
When you make the process of removal from office a kabuki theater - it's not that they've grown too powerful, it's that you've put more effort into providing narrative chum for the Useful Idiots than actually making a valid argument.
They cheapened it, Gene. So The People stopped taking it seriously.
The fact that we've never managed to eject a sitting president via the impeachment process suggests that the framers set the bar for removal—conviction by two-thirds of the Senate—too high.
Yea, screw the will of The People. They don't know what's good for them. Why do we even let them vote anyway?
At any point, the vice president and eight Cabinet-level "principal officers" could have moved to replace him via Section 4. Why didn't they?
Because it would harm the narrative. It would lead Democrat voters to start thinking, "Did I make the right choice??" The Democrats cannot - under any circumstances - ever risk their voters asking that question of themselves.
They also had the problem that his replacement was a jibbering retard DEI hire.
"the framers set the bar for removal—conviction by two-thirds of the Senate—too high.
Yea, screw the will of The People."
If the DC elite can't overthrow the choice of the voters with a 50+1 vote of their own, then we have no democracy.
You are free to keep voting until we get the result we want.
The Framers set the bar high for good reason. To prevent mob rule from removing a duly elected President based on nothing but politics despite his/her just winning the vote. If the party in charge of the Senate could remove a President at will then we do not have 3 Co Equal branches of government and should just throw the Constitution in the garbage.
"Yea, screw the will of The People. They don't know what's good for them. Why do we even let them vote anyway?"
You know this question gets asked every week in the faculty lounge and on private jets to Aspen and Davos. And you know that Democratic ideology has given up all but lip service for "common folk" in favor of an expert-guided, elitist utopia--if feudalism can be utopian.
Altruist Totalitarian reality control in prevention of thoughtcrime lecture 245. If thoughtcrime detected, STOP reading and toss turds instead.
I wonder what Madison would have thought of an impeachment based on fake evidence?
Do they hire these shitheads off of skid row?
Do the rely on Sarc to recruit them?
Pretty sure sarc is KMW
I would imagine all of the Founding Fathers would be appalled and disgusted by what we are seeing from our government officials and elected representatives as of late. They recognized that men were not angels but thought that in the least they would be expected to act with some type of decorum and follow the laws.
"Donald Trump showed that impeachment is broken too."
Maybe it didn't work because trying to impeach a man twice on evidence that explicitly exonerated him, for crimes actually committed by the prosecution, wasn't quite as legitimate and clever as Reason thought.
I get that Trump is the Brothers Gracchi to your Patricians, but FFS.
The worst crime a president can make is telling his supporters to march peacefully and patriotically.
Not incitement:
"there will be blood in the streets” - Loretta Lynch
“Who says protests have to be peaceful“ - Cuomo
“There needs to be unrest in the streets” - Ayanna Pressley
“Protesters should not give up” - Kamala Harris
“I just don’t know why they aren’t uprising all over this country“ - Nancy Pelosi
“You get out and create a crowd and you push back on them, tell them they are not welcome“ - Maxine Waters
“I want to tell you, Gorsuch, I want to tell you, Kavanaugh: You have released the whirlwind, and you will pay the price! You won’t know what hit you if you go forward with these awful decisions!” - Chuck Schumer
"(the Supreme Court is) Illegitimate! Illegitimate! Into the streets! Into the streets!" - Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez
Deadly incitement:
“Go home with love and peace, remember this day forever“ - Donald J Trump, January 6, 2021
It’s the who, not the what.
Pretty much spells it out! Can't argue with the facts. Proof enough!
"Maybe it didn't work because trying to impeach a man twice on evidence that explicitly exonerated him, for crimes actually committed by the prosecution, wasn't quite as legitimate and clever as Reason thought."
And therein lies the truth!
And don't forget the DNC narrative for Trump Impeachment 1.0 (Ukraine meddling) was actually more accurate for Joe and Hunter's adventures in Ukraine.
There had to be at least a few Senators who remembered.
I think Vindman was a Trump mole…helping Trump release the transcript was genius!
Anyone getting ready for a day of fake astroturf leftist peaceful protests? Where their merch is even being advertised by neutral and unbiased corporate media?
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Let's shine a light on influence laundering.
Link below
Speaking of insurrections...
Bernie Sanders @BernieSanders
I want to applaud all the patriots who will be participating, as I will, in No King rallies across the country.
Americans believe in freedom, not authoritarianism.
In 1776 brave Americans took on and defeated the most powerful despot in the world.
In 2025 we will do the same.
Matt Van Swol @matt_vanswol
This is literally insurrection language.
Calling for Americans to take on President Trump in the same way America took on the British is literally calling for an insurrection.
How the fuck does Bernie get away with this?????
As always, it's (D)ifferent when they do it, Matt.
What do you think Bernie would have done in 1776?
Hid in a cellar?
They tarred and feathered grifters back then.
They’re here in Spokane now too. Don’t know if they’ve bussed in any rioters yet.
Sorry remy. You've been one upped with music parody.
https://x.com/miguelifornia/status/1933653716177203328
"...Donald Trump showed that impeachment is broken too..."
When it was employed for purely political reasons, it didn't work. Those of us not TDS-addled piles of slimy shit (unlike you) recognized that.
Fuck off and die, asshole.
I believe that Donald Trump is a gifted, tough and explemary human being, who has never made an honest mistake in his life, and quite possibly our greatest president ever. But, I gotta admit, he's also a bit overweight with bad hair... oh my bad! Does this mean I'm now a slimy, TDS-addled piece of shit? Please clear this up for me.
The strawman arguments you retards come up with to declare non leftists as cultists all while you dont realize you're in a cult...
If this isn't a sarc sock then that makes you even more retarded as you stole this strawman from him.
Trolling is much more fun, not to mention much more honest, than the non-stop false equivalency's and bad-faith arguments that are your reason for being. Your ignorance and insecurities are blinding, so I get it - you need Something in life to fulfill that deep, dark hole in your soul..
But thanks for finally admitting you are indeed part of a cult - first honest thing you've uttered. A pretty bad one too. Godspeed on your way to Jonestown, son.
And just like sarc the "I was only pretending to be retarded" response. Not pretending buddy.
No, your TDS is related to your obsessive hatred born out of your malignant Marxism. Which is typical of red diaper babies like you.
Trump or no Trump, you’re a pinko subversive.
Yes, you are, and you suck at sarcasm as well. Fuck off and die, asshole.
Impeachment was only broken in that it was used for a partisan political reasons because the evidence of wrong doing was just not there. Removing a President because you don't like him is not a valid exercise of that process. Impeachment worked exactly as intended when the "evidence" was heard enough Senators had the character to vote and dismiss it.
"...In his first term, President Donald Trump was impeached twice, the second time for provoking a riot while trying to intimidate Congress and his own vice president into overturning the results of an election he lost..."
Neither of which were other than weaponizing impeachment, slimy pile of TDS-addled lying shit.
Jam your TDS up your ass so your head has company and then fuck off and die, Healy
Why couldn’t Biden be removed? DEMOCRATS!!!
Why couldn’t Trump be impeached? DEMOCRATS!!!
Why is it cold and cloudy outside? DEMOCRATS!!!
Why does my aunt have gout? DEMOCRATS!!!
Did you just start drinking, or or did you wake up drunk?
He maintains that high.
Also a hypocritical leftist who gets mad if democrats are ever criticized. But he criticizes them all the time, ask him.
Hard to do that, he’s hardly ever here.
Sarcasmic who?
Once you deep six your liver - you can stay perpetually intoxicated.
Poor stupid sarcbot.
Sarc’s fellow travelers obstructed a cartel meth trafficking bust in Arizona………
https://www.oann.com/newsroom/arizona-sheriff-major-fentanyl-and-meth-drug-bust-delayed-after-idiot-protesters-confuse-it-with-ice-raid/
FTA:
“A major law enforcement operation targeting a suspected cartel member in Arizona, who was found in possession of a substantial cache of narcotics and four illegally owned firearms, was disrupted by individuals who mistakenly assumed the raid was an Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) action, according to a sheriff.
Pinal County Sheriff Ross Teeple stated that investigators had spent approximately six months building the case against the illegal alien suspect, who had re-entered the United States unlawfully after a prior deportation.”
Good job democrats.
When they finally raided his home in southwest Tucson late Wednesday, they found millions of fentanyl pills as well as 32 pounds of cocaine, 22 pounds of meth, four guns — and some unexpected opposition.
https://nypost.com/2025/06/13/us-news/massive-drug-bust-impeded-by-protesters-thinking-it-was-an-ice-raid-sheriff-says-idiots/
Fentanyl deaths spiked in 2020 along with violent crime when illegal immigration was at record lows!! Covid allowed Trump to get his wish and he still couldn’t secure the border!!
Holy crap you are pathetic.
So knowing facts is “pathetic”?? A perfectly healthy 17 year old son of a family friend died from fentanyl in 2020…it’s personal for me. The family has always voted Republican as far as I know.
Don't worry, the republicans are toast.
Weak trolling. Go back to your kiddie porn.
We're not worried, so long as the lefty is represented by 'tards like you.
Isn't it time for your prison spa mani-pedi?
Don’t forget his interracial colonic with hot beef injections.
You’re ironically correct about the first two.
The President is not too powerful. Those around him are too powerful. To make it a silly point - eliminate the Secret Service detail around the Prez. How powerful is the Prez then? Would the Prez behavior change?
The reason we can't change this is the same reason the Constitution can no longer be amended.
Jake Tapper was complicit in this whole thing, and now he wants to cash in a book outlining how he and others failed to ask any questions of the Biden administration. Cool story.
This is a joke.
I would like him to cash in further. And would like to offer him free room and board, for life, at a federal penal institution.
Hey Gene:
Quick note: Biden isn’t President any more so maybe you need to check your Wellbutrin prescription.
Also, this…
Donald Trump’s cognitive ability has once again been called into question as the president has been accused of making “delusional” remarks about Russia and Vladimir Putin’s involvement in World War II.
“I happened to speak to President Putin at the time. Now in all fairness to him [Putin], he lost 51 million people and he did fight,” Trump said. It comes just weeks after Trump was branded the “dumbest president ever” following a shocking 6-word error.
Gee, I wonder what the reaction would have been here if Biden claimed Putin fought in WW2. Hmm…
Uhhhh ... are you really dumb enough to think everyone else is too dumb to understand that "lost 51 million" means the country, and does not mean that Putin fought in that war?
Or are you phrasing that so ineptly that you meant something else?
I'll help - he/she has no idea he/she is saying.
I’ll help. You have no idea what YOU are saying. Fucking pinko retard. You’re a desperate, useful idiot for a bunch of Marxist elitists whose first action after taking control will be to purge activist idiot, such as yourself, to cement the message that there will be no dissent.
Fuck off and die, shit stain.
I suggest a better fundamental improvement is get rid of the Presidency altogether.
1. There's a weird split hierarchy to senior executives, the "constitutional officers". The President nominates them, Congress has to approve them and loves to hold hearings and grill them before the TV cameras. Who is their boss -- the President or Congress?
2. Congress wants to grill them for the sound bytes. They can't actually tell them what to do; I don't think they can impeach them. But Congress doesn't want any responsibility or accountability, just the sound bytes.
3. What exactly do these Constitutional officers do, other than act as another layer of middlemen? The President tells the Secretary of State what he wants, the SoS tells the ambassadors and other diplomats. The SoS always answers to the President and is not exactly independent. Same with national parks, Department of Defense, and so on.
So I say get rid of the Presidency and make Congress hire the Constitutional officers directly. Interview them, vote on them, and fire them. Get rid of that single overarching too-damned-powerful President. Tell Congress to grow a spine and take responsibility. They are far more representative of We, the People than the single President is, the House is elected twice as often, and 1/3 of the Senators are up for election twice as often.
Congress is supposed to have the sole power of declaring war. Put some teeth in it. Make them hire a commander-in-chief along with their declaration of war. If they don't like how he's handling it, make them fire him and hire a replacement instead of holding hearings and trying to embarrass and distract the President. Stop delegating all that authority to the President, then whining to the cameras that he's abusing that authority or not doing it right. War is too important to be handled by the same guy who is also telling park rangers what to do, arguing about safety commissions, fighting with Congress over farm subsidies, and dealing with the 1001 other busybody tasks Congress has delegated.
And another one bites the dust. Sad.
Impeachment is a joke.
Andrew Johnson's impeachment was pure politics. Lincoln and the GOP picked him as VP because he was a southerner who hadn't rebelled. Then when he became President, the GOP was outraged, outraged, that he had the temerity to act like he always had acted.
Bill Clinton's impeachment was technically because he lied in a deposition, but the real reason was the Republicans didn't have the guts to uphold the rape accusations against him.
Trump's first impeachment was a joke. Joe Biden had used foreign aid to bribe Ukraine into not investigating a corruption scandal which would have ensnared his son Hunter and then Joe himself. Trump used foreign aide to bribe Ukraine into reopening that corruption investigation, and that was what the Dems impeached him for, to cover up for Joe and Hunter. It was blatant politics, far more so that either Johnson or Clinton.
Trump's second impeachment was a joke too, rushed because he was out of office two weeks later. It could have been a good impeachment, if they had taken the time to investigate not just his role in j6, but all the associated vote fraud and media and deep state interference (like the CIA et al denying Hunter's laptop was really his, as they damned sure knew), and the National Guard illegally refusing to be called out to deal with the occupation. Then the Democratic House j6 committee refused to let Republicans have any decent role in their investigations, again to cover up how harmless it had been, because that would have undermined their rationale for the second impeachment.
So when I see crap like this —
— which skips right over the first impeachment, and ignores that the second impeachment was for purely partisan political things that never amounted to a hill of beans, then I tune out the rest of the article. I knew the name Gene Healy, would have guessed he had a decent reputation, but not after this nonsense. The cure for bad impeachments is not to make them easier.
The core problem with the impeachment process is that there is nothing less. Either fire the President or do nothing. It's like making all court verdicts death or dismissal. It doesn't lead to dead shoplifters, it leads to trials for murder only.
Johnson’s and Nixon’s and Trump’s impeachment all made sense because the individual that would have replaced the president had a different agenda. So Johnson would have been replaced by a Republican because there was no VP and Nixon would have been replaced by Ford who was an establishment Republican while Nixon was an out of control liberal and Trump would have been replaced by the Bush Republican Pence while Trump ran as an opponent of Bush Republicans. But because Trump governed as a floppy cock Jeb the Bush Republicans lost interest in impeaching him but remember Bush Republicans got Mueller appointed.
Nixon was not impeached.
Making sense politically is the reason they were jokes.
Nixon and Agnew were forced to resign because of the Impeachment Clause. So that is the playbook Gingrich was following under Clinton as he wanted to remove both Clinton and Gore and then prevent another VP from being appointed and then he would have become president. Gingrich’s PhD is in European history in which leaders are changed all of the time and people just accept it and he figured, like in the 1960s and 1970s, that Americans would just accept him as president because those were the rules everyone agreed to play by.
"Nixon and Agnew were forced to resign because of the Impeachment Clause."
You.
Are.
Full.
Of.
Shit.
Which is no surprise to anyone who wastes time reading the first sentence of any of the lies you've posted here.
Fuck off and die, asswipe.
Impeachment is not a joke. The problem is The Founding Fathers, although recognizing that men were not angels, gave too much credit to elected officials in that once the People elected a President the politicians would not act for purely partisan and corrupt reasons to the extent they would remove a sitting President essentially because they didn't like him. Once a President was elected the other 2 co-equal branches would provide a check on his power if he began abusing it. Removing a President would be the "break glass in case of emergency" option of last resort to prevent someone from becoming a King or Tyrant.
People claiming Trump is a King or Tyrant must be missing the lawfare and out of control District Judges who are actually acting as tyrants. Everything Trump has done has been within his understood powers of The Presidency. When he erred the courts pushed back.
Impeachment still works, if the opposition party controls Congress.
The replacement must have a different agenda than the president for impeachment to make sense. So Gore being installed would have accomplished nothing from a political standpoint.
Joe Biden showed that the 25th Amendment doesn't work. Donald Trump showed that impeachment is broken too.
This BOWF SIDEZing is so epic, I'm in awe at its sheer hubris.
Um, question... for the 25th Amendment to "work" wouldn't someone have to go over to it and, you know, turn the fucking thing on?
"Have Presidents Grown Too Powerful To Be Removed From Office?"
Better libertarian question:
Has the US government grown too powerful to be contained?
Is is just a platitude now to want our government to be a servant of the people (and a servant that does not also play mommy and daddy, and provide for all our emotional and physical needs)? How many Americans would even consider some general limits on government scope, and not just for their pet issues?
How fucked are we?
Has the US government grown too powerful to be contained?
I thought the better Libertarian Question was: Hey, before you cut that penny from the budget, have you followed every byzantine due process dance of the 'tards and made peace with every district court judge in the land before doing so?
Because that seems to be the only question that gets asked from that writing that appears above the comment section.
How many Americans would even consider some general limits on government scope, and not just for their pet issues?
I'd say that the answer to that question has an upper bound that is equal to how many Americans make checking their own cognitive biases their highest priority when thinking about politics, and that are constantly self-reflecting on how successful they are at doing that.
(sad face)
^ This steaming pile of lefty shit supports murder by government official:
JasonT20
February.6.2022 at 6:02 pm
“How many officers were there to stop Ashlee Babbitt and the dozens of people behind her from getting into the legislative chamber to do who knows what?...”
Fuck off and die, asshole.
Stop the ste!
The last words of Ashtray Babbitt that will inspire a new generation of patriots! Gee, I wonder what she meant by “ste”?? 😉
Btw, don’t worry about Ashtray’s badass Marine husband…he has a spare hottie so he doesn’t get lonely. Marines are always prepared! 😉
Actually, "has Congress ceded so much of their Constitutional power to unelected government bureaucrats that the government is no longer run by elected officials"
The problem is that both impeachment and the 25th Amendment presume that members of Congress and the VP and Cabinet secretaries, respectively, will act in the people's best interests instead of the interests of their party, its special interest backers, and themselves. They presume that these politicians will be honest with the people when they publicly debate the competence or potential corruption of the President. They presume that the political opposition calling for the President to be removed will be honest and will act in the best interests of the people.
If those presumptions are correct, then those mechanisms will function well and serve as warning to a President that would be inclined to abuse his power and for the President's closest aides and advisors (that aren't the VP or in the Cabinet) that might try and hide infirmity.
If those one or more of those presumptions are not correct, then whose fault is it that our government has people in positions of power that don't live up to ideals?
^ This steaming pile of lefty shit supports murder by government official:
JasonT20
February.6.2022 at 6:02 pm
“How many officers were there to stop Ashlee Babbitt and the dozens of people behind her from getting into the legislative chamber to do who knows what?...”
Fuck off and die, asswipe.
He clearly wasn't. Even in 2020, Biden struggled to feign lucidity in tightly scripted Zoom town halls. "He couldn't follow the conversation at all," said top Democrats who saw the raw footage; it "was like watching Grandpa who shouldn't be driving."
So yeah, I and my fellow fork-lift drivers across America knew he was non compos mentis in 2019. Hell, my friends and I were taking bets on whether he'd last until Thanksgiving, in December of 2019. All while the Media Phalanx, which included Reason said he was the best Joe Biden ever, fit, rested and ready, that he had a stutter, or that sure, he was old, but so was that Trump guy and... and... and.... like what's up with all these like... old people in politics, maaan?
I swear to God I've lost track of the number of ChatDNC-generated Memes that Reason picked up and ran with unquestioningly.
And now suddenly, what was a right-wing, fox-news-watching-mouf-breaving-conspiracy theory is just basic fact... everyone knows it, everyone always knew it... we just... couldn't do anything about it because Joe Biden proved the 25th amendment didn't work.... ignore the fact that it was unplugged and wheeled into the back of the garage behind those old kids bikes and the boogie boards.
How the fuck... Reason, is the 25th Amendment supposed to work when you're literally in the chorus of media hacks singing "fit, rested and ready"? Doesn't someone, somewhere have to say that Joe Biden needs the 25th Amendment? Or would that have jeopardized your South of the 210, west of the 405 Journolisming awards?
Voting for president is a binary choice—so I believe Trump abused his power and is unfit for office…and yet I would still vote for him every time against George W Bush.
An idiotic lie. Small parties have moved all major changes since the Civil War with under 2% of the vote on average. Nobody understands this better than math-capable contractors hired by the looter Kleptocracy. The Dem solution has been to struggle to evade the LP while tweaking its platform, while the Jesus goons seek to infiltrate and take it over in a Long Knives Anschluss. The truth is you throw away your vote by a floating factor of approximately 20 every time the looters sucker you into not voting for an actual libertarian candidate and platform. Bush asset-forfeiture looting caused the Crash of 2008. https://libertariantranslator.wordpress.com/2016/10/30/fiscal-conservative/
We can't ban party affiliation, but we could tax the fuck out of it. That would be a start.
"while first lady Edith Wilson essentially ran the executive branch of the government." Whether a deliberate lie (by christianofascism to explain away the veto of the Volstead Act) or plain stupidity, makes little difference. Tumulty was more competent than Wilson to operate that branch of politics as she is, and he did a way better job of it than post-assassination Dems.
It is hard to imagine anyone who better exemplifies cognitive degeneration than Jawsh Holy. The guy is obviously channeling the post-1928 Klan, Anthony Comstock, Herbert Hoover and Harry Anslinger.
Take your meds Hank.
COMSTOCK!!!
Voting can be binary in the sense that you must choose to either cast a law-changing spoiler vote packed with leveraged clout or cowardly endorse looter kleptocracy coercion by throwing away an opportunity to repeal bad laws.
When it comes to polls, voters that consider voting democrat are much more likely to still be critical of the party they are intending to vote for. People who currently take solace in one-dimensional, binary readings of polls will struggle with this reality in due time.
Yeah, like most of the media did on election night.
Here ya go Gene Hack-man:
Jamie Raskin demands another Trump impeachment during fiery speech at Democrat “No Kings” rally.
https://x.com/ThomasSowell/status/1933995359786951090
No, Gene, it's not that the 25th amendment doesn't work. It's that you witnessed a coup and don't want to admit that it happened.
Bingo!!! Bush Republicans attempted a coup to install Pence as president. Bush Republicans lost interest in the coup when Trump appointed Bush Republicans like Kavanaugh and Haley and Pompeo and Bolton et al.
You are a stupid pile of lying lefty shit.
Who appointed Rodentstain??
You are a STUPID pile of lying lefty shit. Fuck off and die.
Stop hitting on me! No homo, bro!
This is blame-shifting of the worst kind! It is hard to remove a sitting President and it SHOULD be difficult! The problem is not the difficulty of removing a malfunctioning President - the problem is the power that has been concentrated in the Executive branch coupled with the two-party system that makes everything in government a life-and-death struggle for power between the current majority and the current minority.
And TDS-addled shit-piles of both parties.
^THIS Indeed. All but a consequence of not LIMITING the Union-of-States government to US Constitutional Enumerated Powers.
When everything under the sun is legislated by Gov-Guns it's only a given that there will be Gov-Gun (i.e. POWER) fights and gangs forming. The correction is LIMITS as this nation was founded upon.
The only humanitarian asset a monopoly of guns (the tool) can possibly provide is to defend Individual Liberty and ensure Justice for all. If the 'Guns' aren't doing one of those two things then it is [WE] Identify-as gangster criminals packing 'Guns' against those 'icky' people.