What Happens if the Department of Education Goes Away?
Most of what the department does would likely stick around, for better or for worse.

In March, President Donald Trump signed an executive order directing Education Secretary Linda McMahon to essentially abolish the department she runs. "Closing the Department of Education would provide children and their families the opportunity to escape a system that is failing them," reads Trump's order. "Ultimately, the Department of Education's main functions can, and should, be returned to the States."
Actually killing the department requires congressional approval. McMahon has, though, moved to at least shrink it. Shortly before Trump signed the executive order, she cut its staff in half following almost 2,000 layoffs and buyouts. "This is a significant step toward restoring the greatness of the United States education system," McMahon said in a March press release.
While McMahon can't erase the Education Department on her own, Congress could step in and administer a coup de grâce. What that would look like isn't exactly clear. The department directs a wide range of federal programs and commanded a budget of more than $200 billion last year. It administers the behemoth federal student loan program, enforces federal law in education, and gives grants to public K-12 schools and universities, not to mention running a battery of smaller programs.
Abolishing the department, however, would not necessarily mean abolishing its functions.
"Most of the discussion from the administration and in Congress is about moving Department of Education functions to other departments," says Neal McCluskey, director of the Cato Institute's Center for Educational Freedom. "If that is what is done, it will not change what the federal government does in education, only which agencies do those things."
According to McCluskey, federal funding to K-12 schools and colleges would likely just move to another department, though he notes there are "proposals to consolidate, at least, programs and turn them into block grants to states, which would cut down on bureaucratic compliance costs." The federal student loan program "would likely go to the Treasury Department or possibly the Small Business Administration, both of which have experience with financial instruments, including loans," he adds.
"Almost everything the Department of Education does is unconstitutional," McCluskey says. "The Constitution gives the federal government only specific, enumerated powers, and authority to govern in education is not among them. So almost all the spending and activities should go away."
McCluskey does see a few exceptions. "First, under the 14th Amendment, the federal government has a responsibility to enforce civil rights, especially discrimination by government—states and school districts. This includes sex-based discrimination, which is addressed by Title IX. Washington has often taken this authority too far, with excessive investigations and peeling away rights for people accused of sexual assault at educational institutions, but the basic authority to act is there." He also points out the federal government has authority over the military, the District of Columbia, and Native American tribal lands, meaning that "the feds could supply funding for D.C., military, or Native American families to choose private schools and be within constitutional bounds."
McCluskey also thinks that while the federal student loan program inflates college costs and should be eliminated, the program shouldn't be shuttered overnight. "The programs could be phased out over a few years," he says, "because people make long-term plans to pay for college based on these loans existing, and suddenly ending them would be very disruptive for students and schools alike."
If Congress really did abolish the Education Department, most of what the department does would likely stick around, for better or for worse. But it would at least "end a cabinet-level education department, which is grossly unconstitutional and a direct conduit to the president for education special interests," according to McCluskey. "It would also be symbolically important, sending a message that education is not a federal responsibility."
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College teacher here....
3 facts temper what Emma is saying.
1)with the Demographic Cliff and the almost 3% increase in college students who don't graduate, we approach a 20% reduction in the student population. Many colleges appear to be headed to extinction.
2) The inevitable moves to offset 1) will dilute the quality of whatever education remains.
3) The statement made in the 50's remains about the overall effect
Technological society leads to increasing numbers of people who cannot adapt to the inhuman rhythm of modern life with its emphasis on specialization. A class of people is growing up who are unexploitable because they are not worth employing even for the minimum wage. Technological progress makes whole categories of people useless without making it possible to support them with the wealth produced by the progress.
Jacques Ellul
My start on a solution, I will stick with 3
1) Because no one cares for kids' education like the parents , we need to strengthen traditional (and only traditional) marriage. It is very hard to teach kids from broken homes. And we need power back to parents esp at the earliest stages of education
2) Religion and politics (civics more particularly)must be re-introduced strongly. Those happen to be the 2 subjects most students want (!!! ) And they come together when you talk about eg "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights...." [ so there might be an American bias in my statements]
3) Let's stop our nationalized contempt for manula work and the trades.
"Louisiana currently has a regulation that requires 1,500 hours of cosmetology training or 3,000 hours of apprenticeship under a licensed cosmetologist to obtain a standard cosmetology license, which would allow you to work as a hair stylist. "
Considering the skilled trades? 5 Catholic schools in the US
https://aleteia.org/2024/08/22/considering-the-skilled-trades-5-catholic-schools-in-the-us/
and for Farm workers a miracle
Sts. Therese and Isidore Farm College, Lanesville, Indiana
'The St. Isidore Foundation exists to promote in a Catholic plan of life the integration of the manual arts and the athletic arts with the liberal arts, the fine arts, and the specialized arts and sciences for the benefit of the whole human person to the glory of God."
3)
Or just end federal student loans and encourage universities to charge students a percentage of future wages.
Well that will herald the end of a lot of programs, starting with women's studies...
I'm going to disagree with your first point from a couple of directions. That invalidates much of the rest of your thesis even though I largely agree with your conclusions - I just get there very differently.
1a - the Demographic Cliff - that's not something the Education Department can or should be trying to fix. Nor is it something that universities can or should try to fix.
1b - the increase in non-graduates - That is something universities can and should try to fix but they first need to understand why those folks are dropping out. In part (not total, but a large part), it's because the students are realizing that they will not get future value out of the debt they are incurring to pay for college. When a university program stops making economic sense, it is entirely rational to drop out. It's also rational for some potential students to never start. Universities solve the drop-out problem by making their programs effective.
Note that there is still a market for party schools offering degrees in Underwater Basket Weaving. Taking cash from parents with too much money and too little sense if a time-honored marketing tactic. But drop-outs from those degrees and programs are just a sign that the parent has run out of money, not an indicator of a larger societal problem. It's not even a problem for the sellers. They just move on to the next suckers.
re: your 3 - Ellul was not the first to make the claim that technology would generate a permanent underclass. Luddites have been arguing that since the dawn of technology. They've been consistently wrong. First, they overemphasize the specialization aspect, incorrectly conflating technology with factory work. In fact, there is a booming market for generalists - you just have to be actually good at it. You can't just hand-wave away the value of specialization because you find it hard or distastful. Second, they consistently underestimate the ability of humans to adapt and find new ways to make their livings. The only permanent underclass we have in the US are the mentally ill. And that's a healthcare problem, not an education problem.
As to point 1b:
The college where I volunteer teach crowed a few years ago about its biggest freshman class ever. But the year after quietly reported the worst sophomore class retention ever, just over 60%.
Wrong.
Shift the student loan COLLECTIONS to the treasury; no new loans.
Everything else stops; law enforcement is not different for students.
Enforcement of Title IX can be handled in the DOJ.
What Happens if the Department of Education Goes Away?
I buy the first, second and third round!
What Happens if the Department of Education Goes Away?
Better results.
The chick in the video needs to get some time in the sun.
That's how I picture most male leftists looking. Basement dwelling keyboard warrior, saying shit like "let me explain". Has never picked up or used a shovel. Hands like warm butter.
Hands like warm butter...she's looking better all the time.
'What Happens if the Department of Education Goes Away?'
The Democrats lose their most important youth propaganda tool and recruiting pipeline?
"What Happens if the Department of Education Goes Away?"
We save some money and some bureaucrats have to find real jobs.
By all means, that government agency needs to disappear but wait! There's more!
Outlaw the teachers union as well. In no way should there be a teachers union as long as the taxpayers are paying their wages. Property taxes are high enough as it is then with the added insult of a teachers union that bullies communities and parents.
Put an end to the union, arrest the leaders much the same way the leaders of the Teamsters Union were treated and Weingarten and look for a real job. That is if she has any real skills besides running her mouth.
Teachers unions ought not to be singled out. Outlaw all public sector unions. Even FDR thought that public sector unions were an inherent conflict of interest.
Indeed, including the cops unions
MAGAs hate education and love discrimination. That is why they are killing the ED.
Because we have been getting such great results!
It's like you have a machine gun that fires straw men!
Are these "straw men" metallic, cylindrical with a pointy end and 5.56 mm in diameter?
No, they are lies. All of them, liar.
See what happens if you shoot one of those pointy metal straws into your mouth.
The results over the last forty years indicate that public education has not improved but in fact has been a failing enterprise since its inception.
Not just test results but in overall capability of basic knowledge and understanding.
The worst of it is the lowering of standards in order to graduate. This will ultimately lead to economic and social collapse as the ability to maintain physical and social structure will fade and eventually lead to a society of dumbbells such as the movie Idiocracy.
The teachers unions has allowed this to happen all while protecting worthless and incapable teachers.
TDS-addled piles of lefty shit are pathologic liars.
How can you be so obtuse? Is it intentional?
End all federally subsidized student loans. Let a free market arise around lending to students.
Get rid of the Dept of Education entirely and salt the earth where it stands.
Randi Weingarten can get a real job....check out counter at a dollar store.
"Most of the discussion from the administration and in Congress is about moving Department of Education functions to other departments," says Neal McCluskey, director of the Cato Institute's Center for Educational Freedom. "If that is what is done, it will not change what the federal government does in education, only which agencies do those things."
This has always been the big deception when talking about how the Department of Education was "created" under Carter. Just like "abolishing" the ED wouldn't eliminate much, if any, of its actual functions, the creation of the ED didn't add much. The "Department of Education Organization Act" of 1979 mostly just split it off from the Department of Health, Education, and Welfare. What remained is now the Department of Health and Human Services.
^ This slimy pile of lefty shit supports murder by cop:
JasonT20
February.6.2022 at 6:02 pm
“How many officers were there to stop Ashlee Babbitt and the dozens of people behind her from getting into the legislative chamber to do who knows what?...”
Fuck off and die, asshole.
That comment, while true, misses the point that after the creation of that cabinet-level entry point for lobbyists, the ED's expenditures skyrocketed while educational performance got worse (or at best, stayed flat). Getting rid of that cabinet-level position will make it incrementally harder for lobbyists to push that special interest.
Better, of course, would be to actually get the federal government out of the education business entirely but that will take a lot more time and effort to completely unwind.
Better, of course, would be to actually get the federal government out of the education business entirely but that will take a lot more time and effort to completely unwind.
This is libertarian daydreaming. I'd be pretty shocked if there was sufficient national support for getting the federal government out of the things that ED does now altogether. Student loans? No. You won't get a broad enough majority of people across the country to eliminate that. Not without shifting federal subsidies for attending college to some other program. Enforcing equal education access for minority students and students with disabilities? Good luck convincing a majority that this isn't necessary. Funding research into educational practices and outcomes nationally, and collecting data across all states? I don't see anyone pushing for understanding less about how education works or fails to work.
Pick some narrow targets, and you might have a chance to get the feds out of it.
We need to do the same thing to public education that we should do to public health - destroy the abuse mechanism.
You've heard me say before that the single most destructive thing to our public health care system is EMTALA. Remove it, or lose federal funding. (Right now it's the opposite, where funding is contingent on accepting EMTALA - which virtually every hospital does.)
The same principle should apply here. Change the parameters. You want federal funding, fire every single school administrator but for a principal and vice principal. Every one of them is 100% unnecessary, and usually dangerously toxic to the school.
You have to encourage environments that demand both fiscal and practical responsibility and accountability. Otherwise you're just creating environments rife with abuse.