Los Angeles Is Not Burning: Dispatch from L.A.
The truth is less dramatic—and more important.

"Are things really that bad?" a friend in the media texted me on Wednesday, regarding what the public is being told and shown about the protests in Los Angeles, where I am currently reporting. "I want to murder the media," they continued.
The concept of "the fog of war" can accurately be applied to the protest movement. Opposing factions will, for obvious reasons, obfuscate the positions and tactics of protestors, while politically sympathetic media gleefully amplify those obfuscations. Weapons of mass destruction, the Russia collusion, "Biden is fine." We've been conditioned to expect news outlets to lie, or at least mush around the truth to serve a specific agenda.
I'm mostly indifferent to messaging that is little more than P.R. Do I care that Kylie Jenner admitted her boobs aren't real? I don't, and I probably wouldn't know the difference. But there are a few things I do know about, and one of them is protesting. Since 2019, I have spent more than 100 days and nights with protesters on the streets of Portland, New York, and Chicago, writing about my experiences dozens of times throughout.
Thus, just like my friend, I am irked by the exaggerations, omissions, and comparisons I see being spread about the situation on the ground in Los Angeles. Do I have all the answers? Yes! No. But I can clarify a few easily disprovable claims and provide some needed nuance, as someone who is on the ground and who also lived in Los Angeles for 18 years.
Los Angeles is not on lockdown. On Tuesday, Los Angeles Mayor Karen Bass imposed a curfew—from 8 p.m. to 6 a.m.—to "stop the vandalism and looting" seen on several previous nights. The curfew area covers only one square mile of downtown. The city of Los Angeles is more than 500 square miles. Most of L.A. looks exactly as it always does, and life goes on as it always has.
Angelenos are not living in terror. Law enforcement is selectively inspiring terror, as on Tuesday night, when they shot a young woman trying to walk to her home, ostensibly within the curfew zone. The majority of sounds coming from downtown in the hours before the curfew were from law enforcement: helicopters, sirens, flash-bang grenades. Still, by 9:15 p.m., the curfew zone was mostly quiet, with local TV stations playing the Dodgers and Angels games.
The protesters are not being bussed in or paid by George Soros. This is the lazy man's explanation for every protest he doesn't like. Does Soros support some things you or I might find counterproductive to the health of a community? Sure. But the notion that there are thousands of people who are part of a professional outrage class, waiting by their bat-phones for marching orders from the billionaire is not merely a fever dream—it's an insult to ordinary people's ability to think for themselves and exercise their right to take to the streets and speak out.
The protests in Los Angeles 2025 are not the same as the protests in Portland 2020. Where do I even begin? How about: With the exception of federal troops being sent in by President Donald Trump, they are not even similar.
George Floyd was killed by Minneapolis police on May 25, 2020. By May 27, there were marches throughout the U.S. protesting racial injustice and police brutality. By May 29, the protests in Portland devolved into violence, including vandalizing a police station and endangering the lives of both officers and prisoners. This effectively lit a proverbial matchhead that burned without pause into 2021. While the people doing the figurative and literal burning (nearly all young, some antifa and more antifa LARPers) would occasionally shout Black Lives Matters slogans, the main objects of their ire were the police, sometimes the government at large, and occasionally the Apple Store, which they took repeated relish in pelting and burning, often while filming the mayhem with their iPhones. If you asked the cohort what their larger goals were—what they wanted to build once they'd burned everything down—they shouted things like, "PHOTOGRAPHY EQUALS DEATH!" and "THE POLICE ARE SHOOTING ALL OUR BLACK FRIENDS IN THE STREETS!" (No black people were killed by Portland police in 2020.) This repeated night after night, until the weather turned cold and COVID-19 restrictions were lifted, at which time the incoherent protesters stashed their hoodies and resumed their lives, which were never in jeopardy in the first place.
The protesters in Los Angeles have a clear objective: They want the arrests of their undocumented neighbors, coworkers, and family members to stop. If the Trump administration were to call off the Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) raids tomorrow and cease the grabbing of hundreds of undocumented migrants from farms, car washes, libraries, and homes, it's an excellent bet the protests would also stop. Unlike Portland's protesters—almost uniformly young and locked out of their lives due to the pandemic—L.A. protesters presumably have other responsibilities to attend to, as I wrote about earlier this week.
I can hear some of you saying, "But Nancy, what about the smashed cop car window? What about the looting?" Peaceful protests often turn violent once the sun goes down, the normies go home, and the boys my late ex called "young, dumb, and full of cum" decide it's time to cause chaos. I saw it ad nauseam in Portland 2020, and I've seen it this week, when the mass of protesters in front of ICE headquarters melted away, leaving a hardcore crew of maybe 150 people yelling into the faces of law enforcement. It was that time of the night when all the players knew the next move, including the cops who started charging, and the young man next to me who shouted, "This is what I came for!" But he and his ilk make up a tiny minority of the protesters—a group nevertheless given a disproportionate amount of airtime because it gets clicks and reinforces what many on the right need to believe: that Trump is doing what needs to be done. Look at these hooligans, how can anybody not see that the streets of L.A. would be running with blood were it not for federal intervention?
Angelenos know this is not true. They live here; they don't axiomatically demonize their neighbors and "other" the undocumented.
The Los Angeles protests are also less performative than those in Portland. Not entirely, of course. We are surely in for more dueling threats from California Gov. Gavin Newsom and Trump, as they try to one-up each other. But Portland was nearly all performance, and for the first time in its history, it landed them centerstage every night. It was their turn in the spotlight, and they didn't foresee the consequences of burning downtown or tanking the economy. They had no institutional knowledge of the ruination they had brought upon themselves.
Los Angeles does. There are enough locals still living who experienced the 1965 Watts Riots, which lasted for six days and resulted in 34 deaths. More were here for the 1992 Rodney King riots, when 63 people died. Yours truly very well remembers standing on her block with her toddler, the daytime sky blackened by nearly 1,000 fires raging concurrently. The wildfires of January this year were worse—18,000 homes lost as well as 30 lives. Los Angeles knows what it's like to explode; to lose or almost lose everything in an instant. The idea that they want to bask in the glow of their own destruction? I don't buy it.
I worry about those who are drawn to destruction, wherever and whenever it may occur. Every movement forms its own incandescence, and even the noblest movement cannot control the outliers and the crazies drawn in. Portland saw only one murder in the streets when Michael Reinoehl, a latecomer who claimed to be "BLM all the way!" shot Trump supporter Aaron "Jay" Danielson point blank in August 2020. I worry about what will happen if the level of military presence in Los Angeles continues to ramp up, if the Marines—who will have had little to no training in riot control—are sent into the streets, and if someone who opposes this administration, or is just a stone-cold lunatic looking for the spotlight, takes a shot or is shot. Then, perhaps, we will see blood in the streets and the media unbridled to shape the narrative as it pleases. And the circle we still have time to break will close for good.
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What a pant-load. Everyone knows that there are no protesters. Only rioters. We know this because of their politics. While on J6 there were only protesters. No rioters. Again, we know this because of their politics.
Ideas™ ! So many fucking ideas™ !
Poor Sarckles himself, however, only ever has one idea.
Sucking cock to supplement his liquor budget?
Reason has turned into a left wing mouthpiece and apologist. This article is complete BS. Sure, let’s “solve” the problem by condoning mass illegality.
Poor sarcbot.
Everyone knows that there are no protesters. Only rioters. We know this because of their politics. While on J6 there were only protesters. No rioters. Again, we know this because of their politics.
Propagandists like sarc believe if they repeat the same lies often enough people will come to believe them. That's why the truth has to be constantly repeated and his own lack of principle highlighted.
In reality non-leftists criticized the Biden/leftist response to J6ers for ignoring the difference between protesters and rioters by imprisoning non-violent protesters. Sarc is lying about what happened to protect Biden and left from criticism by those who expect consistent and fair treatment. Nothing angers sarc more than the idea that his enemies should be treated by the same principles as his allies.
Do fuck off. I was told many, many times in these comments that every single person involved in the Floyd protests was a rioter, and that every single J6 rioter was a peaceful tourist. Go suck a dick.
How many Molotov cocktails were thrown during J6 again?
Yeah that's right - selling complete BS day-in and day-out.
No you weren't. Would be easy to prove it. You know how to search.
#SarcLivesInLies
He has no real arguments, or any ability back up his drunken claims.
He is the master of glittering generalities.
SarcLiesMatter
I was told many, many times in these comments that every single person involved in the Floyd protests was a rioter, and that every single J6 rioter was a peaceful tourist.
You were literally never told that. You lie because the truth does not support your conclusions, and because you are so unprincipled the act of lying or adjusting your conclusions is not an option.
Go suck a dick.
I'm so old I remember when sarc criticized people for schoolyard insults. Of course even then he used them against others. It's not like he ever applied to himself any of the standards he used to criticize others. That would require integrity, decency, or honesty and sarc rates a 0.0 on all these scales.
Yeah, accuse me of lying because you don't like the truth. If I was a loser like Jesse I'd have saved the comments from him and others saying that every single Floyd protester was a rioter and that every single J6 rioter was a peaceful tourist. But I'm not a loser like him.
Know what? I'm sorry for telling you to suck a dick. I should have told you to sick a bag of dicks. A big bag. Of dicks. Sucky sucky. Once you get Jesse's dick out of your mouth that is.
Yeah, accuse me of lying because you don't like the truth.
Even people who have never read comments before today know you're lying because no one says "every single" about anything. But you're so used to lying you don't even recognize the difference.
I should have told you to sick a bag of dicks.
Why? Is engaging in homosexual behavior supposed to be shameful? It's interesting how you left wingers forget your own standards when you're talking to the out-group. Sometimes I think you just make up standards to attack others and have no actual principles of your own.
Even people who have never read comments before today know you're lying because no one says "every single" about anything.
Sure they do. All the fucking time. Right here in these comments. You've seen it just like I have. But you're arguing in bad faith as always, so you're going to lie about it.
Is engaging in homosexual behavior supposed to be shameful?
I just think the concept of a bag of dicks to be funny. A bag. Full of dicks. Funny. Take one out, pass it around... Though it is quite obvious that you find it to be shameful, or it wouldn't make you so angry.
Sure they do. All the fucking time. Right here in these comments. You've seen it just like I have.
They criticize the difference in treatment where even most violent Floyd rioters had charges dropped while any J6er including non-violent were charged and tried if they could be identified. Your assertion is a lie.
But I have to give you credit. The best propagandists stick with the lies even after they are identified. That will cost you in credibility and personal integrity, but since you don't value those traits the sacrifice seems well worth it.
Like I said, if I was a loser like Jesse with thousands and thousands of bookmarked comments I would prove it to you. But you wouldn't believe it anyway. You feel what you feel, and no amount of facts can change beliefs you arrived at through emotion. Just like a leftist.
You feel what you feel,
It has nothing to do with feel. I was here and read their comments, plus you mischaracterize my own comments in the same way. You can't form logical arguments which justify your positions so you build strawmen so you can pretend. Then you bluster when you're called on it. You only have one play in your playbook so it's not like we haven't seen it 50,000 times.
The best propagandists stick with the lies even after they are identified.
That's why I have Jesse and the other Trump propagandists on mute. I used to break down their comments phrase by phrase, pointing out how everything they said was false, and they always stuck to the lies. Every single time. They still say the same lies. Hundreds of times a day. And you believe them all. Why? Because they confirm what you feel. You know their lies are true because they feel true! Fuck yeah! All about the feelz! In that respect you're exactly like the leftists you despise.
In that respect you're exactly like the leftists you despise.
This is juvenile, but if you were a little less transparent you might come across a few people it would work on. As it is though it demonstrates you're completely out of effective arguments on the subject and are equally as ineffective with taunts. Maybe you should find a different board, I'm sure there's some freshmen somewhere you can impress.
You'd fasten that satchel of cock right to your face like a feedbag.
To be fair, Sarc's taken several dicks in exchange for intoxicants in his youth, although he isn't gay and probably wouldn't have if he wasn't suffering from withdrawal.
“Why? Is engaging in homosexual behavior supposed to be shameful?”
It is for Sarc, because he lets other men fuck him for booze money. As his welfare checks don’t cover a full month of drinking, even with him economizing by downsizing to a smaller refrigerator box in a less desirable alley.
Oh, so you are an idiot. Oh well.
You cheered 20 year charges for non violent j6ers. #NeverForget
Yeah, fuck Sarc. He gets what he gives.
The "No Kings Day" name for the protests planned for June 14 is extremely apt. While I'm not 100% sure the double meaning of that name is even deliberate, I suspect it is. The first meaning, of course, is simply that Donald Trump has been acting like a king, ignoring the rule of law, and even referring to himself as "king" on several occasions, and that that can't be allowed. The second meaning is to position this month's protesters as a counterpart to those of January 6, a day known as "Three Kings Day".
His defenders sure want him to be king. Or emperor. Let's see what happens when his term is up. I think he'll run again and win, then set the Constitution on fire while people like Jesse and Marshal cheer. But that's just me.
Poor sarc.
His defenders sure want him to be king. Or emperor. ...while people like ...Marshal cheer.
Apparently desiring the same distinction between violent rioters and non-violent protesters be applied to both Floydians and J6ers means I want Emperor Trump. He's a strange one, this sarc.
Maybe it's an admission he believes Team Blue and establishment Reds will never apply the law evenly and thus Emperor Trump is the only option for what I want. Even so you'd think he'd claim to believe in at least the theoretical possibility some politician can be pushed into doing so.
“Just you” is a worthless drunk raving about Trump, making unsupported claims.
Keep it up, your drunken assholery helps our side.
My apologies for calling you an idiot. You're clearly a fucking retard. No one wants Trump to be king or emperor, your smooth-brained moron. Supporting the guy you voted for doesn't equate to that, jackass. I guess you Biden supporters wanted him to be king? Shit for brains. Well, actually, it's not that you wanted Biden to be king, per se, you just want someone to tell you how to wipe your ass and not to eat your own excrement.
Since when is enforcing the law ignoring the law you retarded commie?
Lol. You must be waiting on new articles to drop to show up first in so many threads with the same lame comment. For a guy who’s “hardly ever here anymore” that’s an amazing coincidence.
Do you really believe that you would bail on this place if they charged you $25 to comment? Cuz addiction don’t work that way.
You got issues, dude. Sad.
I think you fucked that up. I think you meant to say on J6 there were only rioters, not protestors. Unless you're just another idiot.
So we’re going with the summer of love narrative again. Pathetic.
That was actually an apt description of 2020, even if the media or the public didn't understand. Many of the people associated with the hippie San Fran scene fled the city shortly after; they didn't like the media attention or the droves of bums that descended on their homes. Just a couple notable quotes:
“The Summer of Love was pretty much the death knell of what was happening, of the little renaissance that we had in San Francisco in the mid-1960s,”
- Bob Weir , Grateful Dead.
“Goddamn it; it’s over, man.”
- David Freiberg, Quicksilver Messenger Service
Good point. The Summer of Love was pretty much when a bunch of junkies shitting on the street became a major feature of SF.
George Harrison visited the Haight one summer and was repulsed by all the drugged out people. After that he quit using.
It was only a handful of cars and officers.
If you live in Florida Gov. DeSantis offers some words of encouragement for drivers:https://slaynews.com/news/desantis-give-florida-drivers-green-light-run-over-violent-mobs-blocking-sitting-duck/
FAFO
And Epstein committed suicide and Crooks acted alone…sure.
California funds $73.6M to anti-deportation groups, sparking GOP audit demand
ARRESTED: Alejandro Theodoro Orellana was arrested this morning by @FBILosAngeles on an allegation of Conspiracy to Commit Civil Disorders (18 USC 371) for distributing face shields to suspected rioters on Tuesday. We are moving quickly to identify and arrest those involved
Orellana is an alleged member of the Brown Berets, “a radical Latino paramilitary group that are currently embedded in cities across the United States,”
Taking those facts into account with your story , it's time to bring the curtain down on whoever is still rioting.
Kristi Noem announced an IRS audit to see who is funding the people arrested.
Yup. The only way to end this is to follow the money and hold them accountable.
When Newsome was being recalled the police arrested a man strung out in his car on the side of the road. He had a full box of empty ballots in this car which he appeared to live in and an assortment of drugs that seemed beyond his budget.
Perhaps the drugs were payment for this person to fill out the ballots supporting Newsome so he would not be recalled?
I am not confident there are enough officers, investigators or detectives to chase the money but it will bring results if they can.
Good. This shit doesn’t end until these people are ended in one form or another. Incarceration for tax fraud isn’t as good as treason charges, but it’s something.
That’s good news that it isn’t as bad as the media is making it out to be. Think I will get a cup of coffee to celebrate. Thank goodness I have plenty of places I can go that aren’t owned far right, lying morons.
Good riddance.
Fuck off and die, asshole.
I recommend you go to Rehoboth Beach, DE, Martha's Vineyard, MA, Detroit, Chicago, NYC, East St. Louis, New Orleans or some other democrat-run out house.
You'll be much more comfortable there.
South side Chicago is nice this time of year, remember: sun's out/guns out.
https://cwbchicago.com/2025/06/man-charged-with-carjacking-off-duty-security-guard-near-wicker-park-has-extensive-experience-with-similar-allegations.html
For now. Ferguson and his crowd are a real problem, so martial law is probably coming. Then we can cleanse WA of it’s democrats and fix things.
Maybe you should flee the country now.
Still, by 9:15 p.m., the curfew zone was mostly quiet, with local TV stations playing the Dodgers and Angels games.
How would you know?
The protesters in Los Angeles have a clear objective: They want the arrests of their undocumented neighbors, coworkers, and family members to stop. If the Trump administration were to call off the Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) raids tomorrow and cease the grabbing of hundreds of undocumented migrants from farms, car washes, libraries, and homes, it's an excellent bet the protests would also stop.
Stop enforcing the law and the protests will stop. Interesting.
That whole “nobody is above the law” thing sure disappeared quickly.
It disappeared in the oval office on the day of inauguration. As a former conservative/libertarian hybrid who still talks to conservative friends and knows whats happening to their sentiment, I think it may be time to say it: the republicans are toast.
You.
Are.
Full.
Of.
Shit.
Fuck off and die, TDS-addled asshole.
" the republicans are toast."
That's what the left has been saying for over 100 years, and every time the left says that, the leftists in power fuck up and end up putting members of the GOP in power.
The open border policy under Biden, Harris and Mayorkas is an excellent example.
You can tell by the increasing numbers for Trump and deportations the last week.
The polling must be really crushing the miserable cunts.
Democrats now at 21% favorable.
This may very well be the end of the Democrat Party. It happens when they're on the wrong side of every issue.
But what would there be to take their place as a political force? They can compete with the Greens/Communist party or maybe hit 30% tacking centrist for future viability but there is no party there now except No Labels and they're more gimmick than substance.
Since there's no way you can say anything good about the DNC who are actually toast, you now have to resort to wishes to sling your hate. No worries we get that it is difficult to admit you were wrong and most people on the left are so weak they will continue inside their bubbles wilfully ignorant and angry.
Everyone loves toast.
Just a couple short years ago you Trump defenders were whining and crying and bitching and moaning when the law was being enforced on Trump. You called enforcing the law "lawfare" and claimed it was the biggest injustice ever in the history of the world. So don't pretend you support the law you hypocritical liar. You don't. You're full of shit. You only support the law when it's applied to people you hate.
Officers sue to compel Congress to install a Jan. 6 riot memorial at Capitol
For all those people killed. A day of remembrance. Worse than Pearl Harbor. Worse than 9/11.
“Both men live with psychic injuries from that day, compounded by their government’s refusal to recognize their service,” the suit says.
Worse than the entire Vietnam War.
You are a disgrace and have dishonoured Vietnam Vets. You should apologize.
I live with psychic injuries from the murder of Ashli Babbitt, where's her memorial? The only person actually murdered at the capital during the allegedly deadly Jan 6th riot.
I am curious when the investigations will produce the FBI officials who directed their 26ish FBI informants to not enter the capital and how many days ahead of Jan 6th was the directive given.
Oh and when will the Senate resolve the lies under oath during the Trump impeachment that Officer Sicknick died from blunt force trauma to the head by a fire extinguisher which was a known lie on the evening of Jan 6th but was regurgitated Ad Nauseum by the DNC actors and the lame stream media.
I would like to recognize their service. Through criminal charges that include aggravated assault, violation of civil rights, and murder.
The recognition they deserve.
Give them a memorial to Ashley Babbitt and tell them to eat a bullet if they don't like it.
Stop the ste!
The last words of Ashtray Babbitt that will inspire a new generation of patriots! Gee, I wonder what she meant by “ste”?? 😉
Sounds good to me. Although I suspect the grey box above me didn’t. I can feel the waves of Marxist retardation emanating from it.
Oh its hilarious actually. SBF implies her last words were not only worthy of shooting her but maybe even worse that what we think
Well, stop enforcing a certain law in a certain way and the protests will stop. Seems plausible, at least. But that doesn't determine whether stopping the protest or enforcing the law ought to be the higher priority.
Yes. That is the point of protest. Like stop enforcing back of the bus or the boycott/protest continues. Not equating the causes or tactics.
So a lawless society? That is what is being demanded.
Sort of. The Marxist wing of the democrat party favors a system where laws are interpreted as they see fit on any given day, and where the constitution is written in pencil.
Ain't just the Marxist wing, pretty much everyone from JFK Ds to MAGA Rs want an expansive living constitution.
A different law society for most other than the anarchist, I'd assume.
Perhaps in this case, for some. But sometimes laws really are bad and should be protested and scoffed at. Unless you think "the law is the law and must be obeyed" is the supreme moral standard and civil disobedience must never be tolerated, you need to judge these things on their particular merits.
“Illegal alien” becomes “undocumented neighbors, coworkers, and family members”
Idiot speak becomes vernacular.
Language leads the chimps into thinking they way they’re meant to.
Nice work, journolists.
So far over 50% of the illegals arrested on these protests and prior had criminal convictions from assaults, to pedophilia, and even murder. Just family loving people.
So average Democrats.
Democrats do love those people. And when they’re bored with obsessing about trannies and pronouns, they will go full force to eliminate age of consent laws and make pedophilia a sexual orientation under the law. With all the legal protections that come with it.
Sarc and Jeffy’s child raping dreams come true!
That's my problem. Nancy has distinguished herself as a boots on the ground reporter. But here she aligns with a particular political perspective. Her argument of course begs the question. Why have these people not taken the steps required to become legal residents? Because nobody bothered to make them? ICE has a legal job to do. Remove illegal aliens. We can like it or not but apparently a majority of the electorate support that. The only alternative that Nancy and Reason offer is to cease enforcing the law that a majority support. As long as protestors/rioters are obstructing federal police the federal government has the power to restrain and arrest them. If the peaceful protesters don't want to get swept up they can just stay home.
The protesters are not being bussed in or paid by George Soros.
Maybe, maybe not. But at least unlike 2020, we don't have the federal government paying them more money not to work and then giving civil unrest the only legit accuse to go outside in a group without social distancing.
Soros doesn’t have to pay the CA crowd, the taxpayer is footing the bill for the LA eioters
Who paid for those pallets of bricks the rioters were using? The insurrection it’s were absolutely brought in.
Appreciate the reporting and attempt to temper some of the more extreme claims about what is going on. Of course political activists of all stripes are going to spin this to enhance their narratives. I still don't think I know what's going on, but it's nice to have something in between "everything is perfectly peaceful and great" and "these are all bad, illegal immigrant, invader, rioters and there is no legitimate protest going on at all".
George Floyd was killed by Minneapolis police on May 25, 2020.
George Floyd may have died pinned under a cop, but he was killed by all the drugs he ate trying to avoid arrest for possession. This bad (and obviously biased) take makes me question the veracity of all other claims. Usually Nancy is on point, but I am not so sure here.
Considering the conviction, there is not much point in arguing about George Floyd's death at this point, but I still think a journalist could write "George Floyd's death in police custody occurred on May 25, 2020" and be sufficiently accurate without being polarizing.
I mean, if accuracy were the goal, George Floyd was murdered by Minneapolis police officer Derek Chauvin on May 25, 2020. The record shows that the State of Minnesota proved that to a jury, where "killed by Minneapolis police" is vague and casts aspersions hundreds of people that had nothing to do with it.
George Floyd was not murdered by Derek Chauvin.
Floyd died from the drugs he ate.
Chauvin was sacrificed in the hope of stopping the rioting.
Too late.
I don't believe that Chauvin murdered Floyd, I believe Floyd died of cardiac failure like the coroner's report said before it was was changed, which anyone who was paying attention is aware actually happened and is not fodder for conspiracy.
I do believe that Chauvin displayed depraved indifference toward a person in his custody, refused to allow him aid, and then continued to kneel on a dead man in one of the worst displays of ineptitude and disrespect for the citizenry by police officers ever caught on tape.
I could not in good conscience have convicted him of murder, but it would have been impossible to convict him for what he actually did. It is not a travesty of justice.
Fair.
Precisely!
Amazing what threatening a jury will do.
Considering the conviction, there is not much point in arguing about George Floyd's death at this point,
Perhaps not as a matter of editorial standards, but I do not feel obliged to align my opinions to those of a court or jury. Courts make bad rulings and juries get things wrong sometimes. OJ Simpson stabbed Nicole Simpson to death, and that doesn’t cause me any stress to say it.
I think Chauvin was a dirtbag of a cop in many ways. I’m not convinced that he was a proximate or significant cause of George Floyd’s death.
Saint George Floyd was a convicted felon with a strong drug habit.
No sane person is going to miss him.
Yes but he has been clean and sober for five years now. /s
Good point.
"...Angelenos know this is not true. They live here; they don't axiomatically demonize their neighbors and "other" the undocumented..."
You misspelled "illegal alien", so your post is automatically worthless.
LA is a big city and I’m not aware of anyone claiming the whole city is burning. The goal is to stop ICE from deporting the criminal aliens. It’s not going to succeed no matter how much Reason and the rest of the open borders Marxists cry.
It is worse. The Trump administration has clearly said their goal is to use the US Military to overthrow the Government of California.
"Let's see. What could I write that will induce the most rage in anybody that thinks deportation is justified."
JFC, Molly, how can you stop laughing long enough to write such worthless bullshit.
I am not the one who said that on national TV.
You really have forgotten what happened the last time you dems started a civil war.
Hint: you lost.
Begs the question. Why would the other 49 want California?
Is this the same government of CA that allowed about 25% of Los Angeles to burn to the ground because the mayor of that fair city refused to allow enough water pressure to put out the fires?
That government?
It was a lack of water due to empty reservoirs. All in the name of globull warming.
Last night I saw a globull. it was floating across the ceiling. It was mumbling to some howling wolf. About some voodoo healing.
Groovy……..
The governor is not the government.
Dr retard is really one upping themselves daily.
Who is running the Molly sock today?
Have you noticed how the tone and voice of several Reason socks can vary dramatically from day to day? If so, how much tinfoil in your hat does it take to consider if some of them are run by Reason staff?
It's interesting I've heard literally none of the assertions Nancy denied. Considering how extreme our commenters are supposed to be that makes me wonder if anyone at all has said such things.
The protesters in Los Angeles have a clear objective: They want the arrests of their undocumented neighbors, coworkers, and family members to stop.
I wondered why they looted the Apple store, now that I understand their clear objective it all makes sense. Maybe there's more to it than that Nancy.
The protests in Los Angeles 2025 are not the same as the protests in Portland 2020.
They aren't and won't be, but that is still the organizers goal. 2020 riots began in one location and were intentionally spread elsewhere for political reasons. Similarly organizers are trying to expand the riots elsewhere with the coordinated June 14 "protests". All of this is following the same playbook the left believes hamstrung Trump while he was in office and won Biden the next election.
1943.
1967.
1992.
2025.
Los Angeles goes through cycles of rioting, looting and vandalism.
So, these riots are right on time.
Good thing Trump stopped the looting. Oh wait. 😉
I don't live in LA but there's a video Reason linked to with ~50+ masked gangsters breaking windows and raiding a store. Course this might be the norm for Blue utopian h*llholes. After all; STEALING stuff is exactly what they vote/want.
As-if CHAZ raiding, stealing and squatting on multiple square blocks of others property while the mayor encouraged the whole thing wasn't a dead give-away.
Those poor, poor, poor criminals... Where's everyones sympathy for them... /s
There just trying to make a better living for themselves by squatting, stealing and vandalizing.
The "conquer and consume" mentality vs. "*earn* in a just society".
>>The concept of "the fog of war" can accurately be applied to the protest movement.
so can "paid-for mercenaries"
Don't worry in spite of the looting no father's day cards were taken
No work boots or books stolen either.
>what I came for!" But he and his ilk make up a tiny minority of the protesters—a group
Here's the thing - they're not disowed by the others therefore the others own them.
The right is always judged by its crazies, now the left will be to - I didn't make the new rules, but those are the new rules.
>The protesters in Los Angeles have a clear objective: They want the arrests of their undocumented neighbors, coworkers, and family members to stop.
Why they looting and burning then?
Only one point of disagreement. By the time those Marines were deployed, I can almost guarantee they had as much riot training as the regular cops.
Of course, that's not all that positive a statement because cops get remarkably little training overall (especially when compared to far less dangerous jobs like hairdressing or horse massaging) and only a tiny fraction of that has anything to do with riot control.
MAGAheads see someone criticize Trump and they freak out. It's a major crime to them. It's violence to them. All protests are violence to them.
MAGAheads see the National Guard and the fucking Marines called out, and their military erections spring into action and they are unable to do anything but defend the first time the Marines were called in on protestors EVER. Fapping to the military. Some old conservatives. Now defending tariffs and central planning and socialism, but same old Kulturwar.
We've got masked federal agents in military gear busting down doors without warrants and disappearing people, a president ruling by decree and enacting taxes without Congress, government contracts being issued and canceled based upon fealty to the president, the military being ready to start killing citizens, and Trump defenders are cheering it all. I think we're watching the death of the republic. It's been on life support for a while, but I do believe this is the end. All that's left is for Trump to run for office again, and stay there regardless of the outcome of the election. To the cheers of his defenders of course.
Oh, they’re “disappearing” people again are they?
Good idea to stick with the script.
Remember all the whining about the arrests of rioters in Portland five years ago?
It was on life support well before Trump came along because you leftists fucked it up with your Marxism, corruption, open borders defunding police, ending bail laws, not prosecuting retail larceny, selling out our country to globalists, allowing men to shower naked with women and steal their scholarships and trophies, etc, etc etc.
Because of the absolutely insane, fucked up extreme leftism you and your kind created, the people of this country finally got fed up and elected Trump to put a stop to it. You guys created Trump, now learn how to fucking deal with him.
This reads like a middle-aged cat lady having a tantrum. Did that icky cashier at Bed Bath and Beyond refuse when you asked to speak with the manager, so you came here to heave your vitriol?
>up, if the Marines—who will have had little to no training in riot control—
Depends on the Marines but actually ground forces get a lot of training in riot control. Remember that we occupied a couple foreign nations until recently - one of them for two decades?
The Army does that….and if we ever have a military operation with a forward operating base again I’m going to riot! 😉
Yes, we do receive riot control training. Maybe some HQ/division types don't, but any units that were deployed absolutely were trained and equipped with riot gear, bean bags, riot control tactics... Nancy, shut up if you aren't going to do 2 minutes worth of research instead of just say whatever stupid shit pops into your head.
Note that this story is from 2017, and I received similar training back in 2003.
https://www.marines.mil/News/Marines-TV/videoid/505217/?dvpTag=riot+control
This just in: FBI arrests suspected NGO foot soldier for distributing face shields/ https://www.zerohedge.com/political/fbi-arrests-suspected-ngo-foot-soldier-la-riots
annnnndddd: https://www.zerohedge.com/political/i-am-senator-alex-padilla-democrat-lawmaker-deported-dhs-press-conference-placed
That's correct, LA is not burning because the National Guard and Marines are there.
IS L.A. burning?
Ask Gert Frobe.
Reading not your forte?
Reason: "There is no war in Ba Sing Se."
So much experience. Did you think to interview the Jewellery store owners or some of the employees of the businesses looted and destroyed who now have to find another job because of these illegal criminal protests? At least with these illegal criminals being arrested the folks needing work because of the riots destroying their work place might find it easier to get a job.
The difference in these riots versus those of 2020 is the proper forces needed to contain and control them are in place in 2025. 2020 riots would not have been as bad as they were had the Governors and Mayors actually done their jobs or Trump would have sent in the guard despite the governors and mayors refusals as if they were trying to keep the riots going against the people they took an oath to protect.
That theory is going to be tested this weekend. I've seen a lot of extremist activist types trying to get involved in organized No Kings protests this weekend. There are several planned in my general area. I have little cause to believe that of the many nationwide protests that some won't be violent and destructive. There seems to be an eagerness from the activists for it to go that way
Charge them all under the actions of the worst of them.
The left is inherently violent. Of course these f****** protests will turn violent
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That's the number of times Ctrl-F says "I " was used in this article.
Narcissistic claptrap pretending to be journalism. Theater kids being theater kids.
But the notion that there are thousands of people who are part of a professional outrage class, waiting by their bat-phones for marching orders from the billionaire is not merely a fever dream—it's an insult to ordinary people's ability to think for themselves and exercise their right to take to the streets and speak out.
Screw you Nancy. We have the receipts. Like she says, Explore it yourself.
But you won't, will you. Same with all of the mouthbreathers here accepting your narrative BS without question. Willfully ignorant. Or, the Enemy.
I usually like her on the ground reporting. I find her to be left biased but relatively fair in assessing the situation. She is fine here when recounting personal experiences. She loses credibility in denying things we have evidence to support.
Screw you Nancy. We have the receipts. Like she says, Explore it yourself.
And, "an insult to ordinary people's ability to think for themselves" would be a better aspersion cast before 2020-2024, when all the 'fever dreams' (or conspiracy theories) the media(, the DNC, the administration, academics, the scientific community, global regulatory and economic organizations, etc., etc., etc.) insisted were insults to reasonable minds turned out to be overwhelmingly true and it was the media(, the DNC, the administration, academics, the scientific community, global regulatory and economic organizations, etc., etc., etc.) who were overtly insulting people's intelligence all along.
So, no LAPD/CHPD/whatever had to hide under an overpass, in broad daylight, while somewhere in the ballpark of a dozen of their cars were smashed by concrete blocks and bricks?
Waymos burning? Nah.
Totally overblown.
Shit a girl walking home? Fuck you, Reason. They used a non-lethal projectile to prevent a stupid woman from entering an area with a curfew. The bitch knew there was a curfew and ignored it. I'm not in favor of curfews, but play stupid games, get stupid prizes. Yeah, the cops probably should have waited til the girl walked through them, maybe she had a bomb and could have blown them all the fuck up.
Kristallnacht is only happening in a few cities in Germany, therefore there is no antisemitism in Germany.
I love it when New Yawkers ("Nancy Rommelmann is a freelance journalist based in New York City") splain California to us peasants. California being limited to Los Angeles and San Francisco, of course. What's happening in Zzyzx, Nancy?
She's actually there explaining what she sees, not aloofly reporting from NYC and not claiming to have a full understanding of the entire situation. And you are inserting a "therefore" that she is not. She is not concluding that because the whole city isn't on fire that there is no violence and nothing to be concerned about at all.
not claiming to have a full understanding of the entire situation
Did we read the same article? Plenty of nonsense that is easily refuted with a simple Google search (like, Marines not having riot control training), but Nancy decided to just make some shit up. If she wanted to insert that, maybe she could have tried to interview one first?
Unless you want to tell me that the burning cars, blocked freeways, Mexican flag wielding mobs, and broken windows were fake images generated by an AI, I'm gonna call BS on the author.