Protesters March, Police Surround, and the Cycle Resets: Dispatch From L.A.
As hundreds gathered to oppose ICE raids, a familiar pattern played out: peace by day, flash-bangs by night.

"They start shooting, I'm taking off," said Arley Washington, a protester I met on the bus, when he spotted the phalanx of police officers sealing off the corner of Los Angeles and Temple Streets. Protesters who wanted to block the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) and Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) headquarters had to walk around.
Washington, who was downtown on an errand and figured the protesters could use some support, passed teenagers waving homemade posters reading, "Tearing Apart FAMILIES is EVIL" and "ICE out of LA," vendors selling Mexican flags from a pull cart, a half-naked man taking a bath in a fire hydrant, and walls of fresh graffiti riffing on some version of "FUCK TRUMP."
On the other side of the 101, Washington spotted another line of cops and planned an escape route for when they rushed the crowd. "I got shot with a rubber bullet back in 2020 at the [Black Lives Matter] protests," he said, lifting his shirt to show a small dent in his gut. "The police, they were lined up and they were shooting far, like two city blocks; he hit me from that far."
Law enforcement, including the Los Angeles Police Department and the California National Guard, were a lot closer than that on Monday—a few hundred lined every entry and exit point of Los Angeles Street from the freeway and Temple Street, forming a sort of box canyon for the 800 or so people who came to protest the ICE raids that happened in L.A. last Friday. The players were who you might call the daytime crew, each squad doing what they nearly always do at the protest du jour: cops standing stock still, saying nothing, and staring into the distance, while protesters chanted, waved flags, and reminded one another to stay chill.
The crowd was chill, which absolutely no one who wants to claim L.A. is "a city of criminals," as Secretary of Homeland Security Kristi Noem said, is going to believe. They have cause not to believe it, based on what nearly always happens at protests when the night crew rolls in: looting and busting in cop car windows, not motivated by protecting immigrant rights but rather by any opportunity to engage in mayhem.
If that's the loop we're stuck in—inroads made during the day eradicated before sunup the next—the peaceful protesters will stay at it anyway. They won't say it's OK for DHS to pull people from their cars, to pull them from their jobs—another reason Washington came down on Monday.
"I'm Native American, and what's happening seems more racial, not just because you're illegal," he said. "I worked at a beach club over the weekend, like rich, very fancy. And the workers, some of them were illegal and they were asking the manager, what would you do if ICE came? They said, it's a private business, they could furnish a letter stating ICE is not allowed to enter the premises, and basically told the ones that are illegal, there are basements; to basically hide."
Washington found a place in the shade to watch as the show played out: students reminding everyone to stay peaceful; a smiling grandma leaning on her walker; skater boys; scooter boys; people waving Mexican flags, American flags, an Israeli flag; a car with a smashed-in grill rolling slowly down the street with its radio blaring, "Fuck the police"; a young Latina offering bottles of cold water ("It's the least I can do"); an anti-fascist (his sweatshirt said so) handing out energy bars; people covering their faces in bandanas, in a luchador mask, in ski masks; boomers holding signs with overcomplicated messages; and 200 or so people shouting directly at the National Guard soldiers on the steps of DHS, none saying or doing anything in return. It was clear they didn't need to respond. Nothing was getting out of hand; there were no altercations whatsoever.
And yet…
"I look too Mexican, I'm out," said Washington, just before a message passed through the crowd that police were going to declare the gathering an unlawful assembly, meaning anyone who didn't disperse could be arrested. Within 10 minutes, 80 percent of the people had bailed.
"Run!" people shouted. Most did, from the dozens of cops who began pressing into the remaining crowd, shooting off flash-bang grenades. The newly arrived night crew protesters did the opposite. They got right in the cops' faces, shouting what they always shout: "Kill yourself" and "All cops are bastards," and, in one case, a disheveled man keening, "I will never forgive you!" over and over.
The rest of us ran—you want to avoid rubber bullets, which a young man doubled over by a light pole did not manage to do. I asked him where he was hit.
"In the nuts," he squeaked and doubled back over.
Ten minutes later, the day crew had been replaced by the night crew, who had apparently been staging themselves on Temple Street. They came in homemade riot gear while shouting that this is what they'd come for, they took out their cameras and changed the picture as the rubber bullets began to fly.
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What protesters?
I saw invaders, but no protesters.
So every single person on the streets doing whatever it was that they were doing was an illegal immigrant?
Which one wasn't?
Well, the dude Nancy was talking to for one. Beyond that I have no idea. And you have no idea which ones were for the most part. But I know enough shallow American lefties to know that it's probably quite a few out there.
>>people waving Mexican flags
stupidest display of stupid I have ever seen and I went to public school in New Jersey
These aren't protesters, they're violent insurrectionists. Those are the terms you and the rest of our media establishment came up with and now your stormtroopers need to be held to the same standard. Pray ICE doesn't consider the illegals to be trespassing and treats them like you leftists cheered treating conservatives protesting with a bullet to the face.
Sounds like it's a mix, really. I don't know if the "day crew" is just dupes for the professional agitators, but I would imagine at least some of them are sincerely there to protest what they (right or wrong) perceive as injustice. The "night crew" I won't argue with you about at all. They can all get shot as far as I'm concerned (preferably by private property owners and not police or military).
I'll grant that it's probably a mix of participants in the day crew. As it was in Charlottesville, there are people expressing a sentiment and a malicious organized group of extremists. There are organizers here funding, supplying, and coordinating both groups. Enough of the day crew knows they are providing cover for the night crew
Why should I make that distinction Zeb? Did any of the leftists make those distinctions as they cheered tossing people in jail for a guided tour? I'm tired of standards only applying to one side.
I don’t remember Nancy calling anyone from J6 that.
Why should I care? Leftists, and Nancy is a leftist, paint with a broad brush and was nowhere actively denouncing them so again, why should I care?
Antifa is a domestic terrorist organization. These people have names, addresses, and they know where the funding comes from. I'm sure much of the supplies and funding comes from NGOs that Im paying for. The directors of these NGOs need to be prosecuted.
Total scorched earth on the violent left. I dont care
My favorite are the idiots hiring Waymo's which have 95,000 cameras on them.
Get the footage, ID them, blackbag them in the dead of night, straight to CECOT.
I love how the press demands Republicans denounce "white supremacy" on a regular basis...but expecting Dems to EVER denounce antifa is silly.
It’s just like, an idea, man. It’s not like they have membership cards.
They're not protesters. They're hired, armed, and paid agitators sent in explicitly to cause chaos and mayhem.
They're not fooling anyone. There is nothing "peaceful" about this. Get the Koreans up on the rooftops.
Another great piece from Rommelman. Love the on the ground reporting.
"In the nuts," he squeaked and doubled back over.
The chef's kiss
It's all fun and games until you get shot in the nuts.
If you're going to play contact sports, wear a cup!
That is some straight-up propaganda. No mention of fires, or throwing rocks into every car passing by, just peaceful protesting.
JFC, this was written by sarcasmic.
Its what she saw. It's her account. Is she supposed to stage scenes for her 1st hand account of what she witnessed?
Rommelman is no leftist mouthpiece. Read her 2020 dispatches from Portland; specifically the one interviewing the people in the police station that antifa thugs tried to butn it down.
This is not an eyewitness account; this is hearsay:
On the other side of the 101, Washington spotted another line of cops and planned an escape route for when they rushed the crowd. "I got shot with a rubber bullet back in 2020 at the [Black Lives Matter] protests," he said, lifting his shirt to show a small dent in his gut. "The police, they were lined up and they were shooting far, like two city blocks; he hit me from that far."
Yes, she is interviewing this person and wrote about it. Its journalism at its finest and most basic; go out to the location, ask questions and report what you saw and heard.
Fair point, I concede.
I will say it again. Rommelmann is a fucking national treasure. I saw zero other reporting like hers on Portland in 2020. She reported what Antifa actually said and did without any filtering and let their own words and actions damn them.
First hand reporting without exaggeration or bias is practically non-existent from any other writer.
"Rommelman is no leftist mouthpiece"
She's probably the only actual journalist Reason has.
Nancy is rather good and said that where SHE was, the violence was not happening.
Never said it did not happen elsewhere, but she seems pretty good about reporting what she saw and nothing else.
"They have cause not to believe it, based on what nearly always happens at protests when the night crew rolls in: looting and busting in cop car windows, not motivated by protecting immigrant rights, but rather any opportunity to engage in mayhem."
Doesn't sound like someone trying to cover for the assholes. I think your assessment is unfair. As SAGN says, it is purely her direct observations of what she saw happen. I can't blame her for not sticking around for the impending violence. I think Rommelman is great. She never claims to be giving a complete account of everything going on. She's just describing what she saw.
Yes we know.
When “the left” protests, every single person is a rioter who needs to be shot.
When “the right” protests, every single person is a peaceful tourist who deserves a medal.
We know, we know, we know.
Let’s play a game –
How many arson events have been documented at right-leaning protests? Cite all of them in the history of the US.
Same question for leftist protests, but only since the 1960’s.
What's your point?
All I'm doing is pointing out the fact that you're a murderous partisan asshole who can't wait for "leftists" to be killed because you condemn every single protester as a rioter, and that you defended the violent J6 yahoos by saying Floyd protesters got away with shit which meant it was unfair to arrest anyone (and the violent ones were all FBI plants anyway).
I'm not justifying or defending anything other than the fact that not every protester is a rioter. And unlike you I don't condone murder.
And unlike you I don’t condone murder.
Unless it's of jews...
Leftist definition of murder - anyone, but especially white males, who justifiably defend themselves from leftist "protesters". Extra media murder points if the corpse is a POC. If not POC, we'll repeat over and over that the violent protesters were indeed POCs and call the righteous defender a white supremacist.
Leftist definition of rioter - "protester" if the cause is Marxist. If the cause is not aligned with or opposed to Marxist ideals, then it's insurrection and execution is in order. But they don't condone murder. wink wink
I’m not justifying or defending anything other than the fact that not every protester is a rioter.
Assuming your premise to be true and honest:
Not every protester is a rioter.
Corollaries:
1) SOME of the the protesters ARE rioters.
2) People who interfere with police or otherwise command police attention through non-violent actions while rioting is taking place are PARTICIPATING IN THE RIOT by preventing police from responding to the rioters.
3) People whose intentions are to protest non-violently absent rioting cannot do so while in the middle of riot.
So, here is my nuanced argument that springs from corollaries to your premise:
Nobody who remains present once a riot is taking place can any longer be considered to be a protester and not a rioter. Once rioting starts those who remain are rioters through action or interference.
I have been arguing this for 4 years and you have never once honestly engaged in the discussion.
When “the left” riots and burns down cities and government buildings, Sarcasmic calls them peaceful protesters.
When “the right” protests Sarcasmic calls every single person there an "insurrectionist" and celebrates when they are actually shot. Sarcasmic's public masturbation to the death of Ashli Babbit was grotesque.
I seriously don't think there is a bigger hypocrite than Sarcasmic. So much so that he has gone past mere hypocrisy into something further. I call what Sarc does, 'hypercrisy'.
I understand why he mutes everybody now. It's cowardice. He gets a lot of on point takedowns. He'd probably hang himself if he had to regularly read the brutal beatdowns you guys give him.
I don’t mute everyone. Just the ones who are incapable of telling the truth, plus a couple abject morons. Some of these stalkers are so obsessed with me that they put me into their handle. That’s messed up. Fact is that I'm just not interested in anything they have to say. The only people they impress are each other and losers like you.
On the other hand Idaho is a lot of things, but I don’t consider him to be a liar or stupid. Or a stalker. So he’s not muted.
You’re definitely on the way to being muted. You’re probably a sock anyway.
You don’t mute anyone, because that would interrupt the flow of all that attention you so desperately crave.
So you are saying that there are good people among the rioters?
No one has a divot from a rubber bullet fired 2 blocks away, 5 years later. Absurd.
Does that include soy boys?
I think it probably is bs, but if you weigh 80 lbs soaking wet...
I suppose with enough drugs, and a severe enough level of malnutrition, maybe.
From the anti-rubber bullet Google AI:
Rubber bullets, also known as less-lethal or blunt-trauma rounds, are designed to cause pain and discomfort rather than serious injury. Their effective range is generally considered to be up to 100 meters (110 yards), though maximum range can be higher, depending on the type of rifle and projectile. Accuracy is typically best at shorter ranges, such as 20 meters, with dispersion increasing at longer distances.
AI Overview
In Los Angeles, a city block typically measures around 500 feet in length, though this can vary. The city's grid system isn't as rigid as some other American cities, leading to blocks that aren't always uniform in size.
So 1000 feet (or so) is 333 yards.
I think the guy is lying. Especially about a still visible wound.
Or mistaken about the distance, or what he got hit with.
Are you counting the 20ish (I can’t remember exactly how many) ppl that they shot in the face destroying the eye and orbital socket ?
https://kffhealthnews.org/news/rubber-bullets-protesters-police-often-violate-own-policies-crowd-control-less-lethal-weapons/
Remember when they used rubber bullets on two women on J6 and...
no, wait...
that was real bullets. They blew out Babbit's brains and you didn't give a fuck.
In fact you liked it.
Go expend your projection fantasies on someone else.
Got caught in a blatant lie, and that's your best?
You are a pathetic pile of slimy lefty shit...
Who wants to volunteer to test it out?
Read "Unmasked" by Andy Ngo.
These people are organized, funded, trained. They are bolshevik revolutionaries and they must be stopped. Everyone stood by and watched in 2020. Not this time.
https://notthebee.com/article/somebody-is-handing-out-free-riot-gear-to-la-protesters-and-i-wonder-where-the-money-is-coming-from
That's the way Antifa works.
They hide behind more sympathetic people, strictly control the narrative, who can have cameras, who can be involved in the "night crew" as Rommelman calls them. The idea is to provoke responses, use the "peaceful" facade as the media-friendly version of what they do while perpetrating the violence in a manner that is just, barely, enough to cause a powerful reaction.
Good example from the pre-Portland style. They would throw bottles of piss at other protesters, shouting the vilest things they could, but as soon as they got confronted the big men would back up and lines of girls would be in front so they could get images of angry men attacking small women.
Portland, they'd back off during the day, but every night they'd form up, light a dumpster on fire and shove it against the doors of the Federal building, or something like that. They would violently attack anyone who pulled out a camera or a cell phone who wasn't vetted, so only THEIR version of the events made the media, then wait until they could get images of a reaction. You never saw the arson or their attack, because of the aforementioned violence against anyone else with a camera. You'd only get images of the response.
I believe everything Rommelman says. It's exactly how these people work. And as propaganda it works. I overheard a guy in a coffee shop yesterday afternoon saying "It's all Trump. He set it up so he can declare marshall law. I didn't see anything violent in the protests." Granted, the dude reads the LA Times every day, so he wouldn't, but the propaganda works on him. And others.
Mollie Tibbets
Rachel Morin
Laken Riley
Al of them white girls who were murdered because illegals wanted to rape their pussies!
Make no mistake.
simping for illegals is rooted in anti-white animus.
I know this because the same people who excuse illegal immigration because whites are not indigeous to North America ALSO support mass migration into Europe where whites ARE indigenous, instead of saying that white Europeans get to gun down invaders en masse.
They believe in this colonizer-colonizee dynamics. They feel that whites are responsible for all the evil in the world, so they support violent criminals immigrating in and committing crimes against whites, especially sex crimes against white girls.
They cheered the Colonge Sex Attacks.
Of course, if little black boys like AJ Wise are killed by illegals, they just consider it collateral damage!
White Girls Matter!
Nancy is absolutely terrific in covering these events.
How’s your husband’s coffee business going Nancy?
Good riddance to carpetbagging, lying cunts.
Portland scumbag, here. MUTE.
Whatever you say Boomer. Your name is making Ken Kesey roll over in his grave.
You'll be rolling in your grave soon enough. If you ever find your balls and actually try something. Gaza would love to have you.
Thank you for your service!
KARs a coward. I remember him chickening out via email back when he was using the DOL/Stolen Valor handle.
That wasn’t me you fucking liar.
DOL insinuated his wife’s Vietnamese family made him an expert on the wars in SE Asia and he got super pissed one time when I referred to her as a mail-order bride. It was funny as hell because he was referring to her like an object, not a person, which is what put me in a mind to write it. About 85% certain it was a personae of JFree based on the timing of posts, syntax use, and general know-it-all-ness. I think now that he has gone full antisemite, he no longer relies on the DOL mask.
KAR is an almost proto-typical millennial from Portland with a lot of rage because some Mormon kids were mean to him as a kid in Utah. I got that his mom is deceased and he never talked about a dad. He was big on calling people bigots, especially in conversations about trans kids and grooming, I conjecture that he thinks it makes people uncomfortable. You can tell he doesn’t have kids and his opinions are mostly second-hand.
He actually apologized after he went too far and doxxed the family of a cop that died of COVID induced pneumonia.
His rage posting makes me laugh, unlike Sarc, who I seriously would punch right in the face if he dared gaslight in person. KAR is not a troll. He is sincere, if ignorant. Honest people can change. Liars just get better at lying.
“his opinions are mostly second-hand.”
What makes you think that? I could say that about some of the things you say.
Nah, it wasn’t because they were mean, it’s because they wouldn’t fuck him.
I was already aware Mormon women usually only fuck their husbands, so it wasn’t because of that.
Your Man Boy Love Association meeting didn't end with you getting laid, I see.
Do you repeat the bigotry you post on here when you’re out and about in Seattle?
Of course you don’t! Because some faggots would curb stomp your racist, bigoted, white trash boomer ass.
If you hate Seattle so much then LEAVE you inbred, white trash cretin
Aren’t you a Boomer, KAR?
You’re older than me pops!
You seem to confuse me with others a lot. You should get yourself checked for dementia gramps.
I kind of doubt that, grandpa.
Not only is he a boomer, he’s the former mayor!
I love that I don't even have to kick this kind of thing off anymore.
You are what you are, Kar, and everyone knows it. Pedo creeper.
https://www.nokings.org/partners
These are all the NGOs and progressive orgs that are funding the upcoming riots this Saturday. many of them are running NSAID funding and other public tax money that I paid for.
NSAID funding
Is that for aspirin or ibuprofen or what?
The Mayor of LA, Karen Bass:
"In the mid-1970s she was an organizer for the Venceremos Brigade, a pro-Cuban Revolution group that organized trips by Americans to Cuba.[12]"
"In the late 1980s, Bass and other local community organizers founded Community Coalition, a South Los Angeles grassroots organization.[15][17] "
Go ahead and read up on the 1980s LA-based "community coalition"
She is a total fucking bolshevik.
If J6 wasn’t peaceful because people outside were assaulting cops, then you can’t call this a riot peaceful.
Those Waymo cars aren’t burning just at night, so I’m not sure what’s the point being made here.
What’s the difference between ICE agents detaining illegals and fbi agents raiding mar a lago? Nothing. They’re officers carrying out court orders. If MAGA shot firecrackers at the fbi agents and desantis told them to “stand up for the president” the media would have lost their minds. And some illegals defied deportation for decades, far longer than Trump resisted cooperation with the archives.
The kkk burning crosses in their backyard is peaceful. They’re still a hate group. These anarchists stand against ice agents taking away rapists and criminals. No, they’re not saying “OK take those guys but not grandma.” You know they HAVE to make that distinction, but their agenda is transparent.
Focusing on some peaceful aspect of a dangerous movement to create a narrative is propaganda. Ghandi was furious when Indians attacked the British in retaliation. The peaceful protesters of this insanity couldn’t care less if their non peaceful compatriots maimed 30 officers and burned down Jews to “free Palestine”
My immigrant dad was afraid to drive in the freeways yesterday. Do you understand why we shifted to Trump? It’s not like immigration was some stealth issue for the guy.
Smash and grabbing a lululemon is how we #resist.
You don't understand. Rioters went free during the Summer of Floyd. That means it was unjust for anyone on J6 to be arrested. Democrats did it first, and that made it ok.
Sarc is still lying to protect Dems who insisted even rioters caught engaging in violence should have their charges dropped then turned around and sentenced non-violent J6ers to long jail sentences.
This is what propagandists do.
vendors selling Mexican flags from a pull cart,
Why? Why Mexican flags?
Because Chinese flags would be a little much?
As predicted if Trump was elected. Another Summer of Love. Any issue/excuse would have sufficed.
>weekend, like rich, very fancy. And the workers, some of them were illegal
It's amazing how much rich people love having a permanent underclass to exploit.
Proper libertarians stick with orphans.
Who else will clean my top hat and polish my monocle?
Testing
Edit: I was getting a weird Wordfence block for a bit.
Was anyone else?
Predictions Come True
Fifteen years ago in the novel, Inescapable Consequences, (2009), this commentator described that which is happening today; namely, insurrection metastasizing like a cancer, a cancer emanating from diversity. The novel described the problem, analyzed it, and proposed a scientifically-based solution. As usual, few noticed or wanted to notice. The following are some excerpts from that novel and its sequel nine years later, Retribution Fever (2009):
Excerpt from Inescapable Consequences:
The President recalled events in Los Angeles following his fourth talk to the nation. Leaders of El Pueblo hastily but quietly had organized a “public protest” to arise “spontaneously” downtown, march along Wilshire Boulevard through Santa Monica, then end with a rally at the Pacific Ocean in the park by the pier. The leaders had neglected to request permits. Tens of thousands, most with swarthy complexions, gathered. The “protestors” chanted in unison, “Viva México!” and “Muerte á Kent!” Many waved flags; Mexican flags. The Mayor, of Mexican heritage, summoned the police into action with orders to disperse the mob peaceably, claiming that notification of the military would constitute a “disproportionate response”. The LAPD was trying its best when snipers, placed strategically in several buildings, fired their rifles at the men in blue. With the first shots, the mob began fleeing in all directions. Mayhem ruled the moment. The final tally read as follows: “Two ‘protesters’ trampled to death with five injured seriously; three police-officers shot fatally with ten others wounded, three critically.” As ordered, no officer fired even one shot. The District Attorney issued warrants for the arrests of the leaders, but all had fled across the border. The City Council then rescinded the warrants, claiming that the police were at fault, having provoked the violence as a consequence of their “inappropriate and disproportionate” show of force.
In the aftermath, Mike had questioned President Kent about his intended response. The President replied simply, “It’s their city.”
Excerpt from Retribution Fever:
National Borders
“Exigimos que se reconozca constitucionalmente la pertenencia a México de todos los territorios Mexicanos.” -Aztlán (06JUL2015)
For decades, these United States had allowed an unarmed invasion via a massive breach of the borders — invasion by illegal aliens including children and adolescents, primarily Mexican nationals. The Mexicans called their part of the invasion “La Reconquista”. They demanded that the belonging to Mexico of all former Mexican territories be recognized constitutionally. Let us not forget the continual series of demonstrations by Mexicans waving Mexican flags on American soil while demanding self-proclaimed, so-called rights found nowhere in our Constitution or in the Mexican.
Great reporting. Thanks Nancy.
"...They won't say it's OK for DHS to pull people from their cars, to pull them from their jobs—another reason Washington came down on Monday..."
They are criminals; criminals are pulled from cars and jobs every day.