DOJ Brings Kilmar Abrego Garcia Back to the U.S. After Insisting It Couldn't
The Department of Justice brought the deported Salvadoran back to U.S. soil for trial, reversing its long-held contention that he would "never" return.

Kilmar Abrego Garcia returned to the U.S. to appear in court on Friday, more than two months after being deported to a prison in El Salvador, the country of his birth. No matter how the trial shakes out, it's just the latest example of the Trump administration playing fast and loose with both the facts and the law.
Abrego Garcia was charged with two federal counts of trafficking. The grand jury indictment says Abrego Garcia "was a member and associate of the transnational criminal organization…MS-13" and conspired to transport "undocumented aliens and narcotics" and "firearms" into and across the U.S.
These claims seem to stem from a 2022 traffic stop when the Tennessee Highway Patrol stopped Abrego Garcia for speeding while driving a vehicle with multiple passengers. At the time, he told police they were coming from St. Louis, where they had been working in construction; he was not detained.
The indictment says data from license plate readers showed the vehicle "had not been near St. Louis in the past twelve months and, in fact, had been in the Houston, Texas area."
"Unfortunately, Kilmar is currently imprisoned without contact with the outside world, which means he cannot respond to the claims," Abrego Garcia's wife said in April, when details of the traffic stop were made public.
Indeed, a court of law is the best place to adjudicate those claims, but there is evidence that the government may have cooked up the charges in order to retroactively justify the case: On May 21, the same day the grand jury returned the indictment, Ben Schrader, head of the Nashville U.S. Attorney's Office's Criminal Division, resigned. Sources told ABC News it was "prompted by concerns that the case was being pursued for political reasons."
The case has been controversial from the start: Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) arrested Abrego Garcia on March 12; three days later he was deported to the Terrorism Confinement Center (CECOT), an overcrowded Salvadoran maximum security prison whose director says its inmates are "psychopaths who will be difficult to rehabilitate" and therefore "will never leave."
But an immigration judge in 2019 had granted Abrego Garcia "withholding of removal, thereby protecting him from return to his native country, El Salvador," as Judge Paula Xinis of the U.S. District Court of Maryland wrote in April.
When the Trump administration deported him, it did so in violation of this protective order, sending him to the one place it was forbidden to do so. "Although ICE was aware of his protection from removal to El Salvador, Abrego Garcia was removed to El Salvador because of an administrative error," the government admitted in a March 31 court filing.
Indeed, the administration was apparently blindsided by the news, as Hamed Aleaziz and Alan Feuer reported last month in The New York Times. Citing internal documents, Aleaziz and Feuer detailed how the administration feverishly tried to retroactively justify the deportation, either by nullifying the 2019 order or by portraying Abrego Garcia as a "leader" of MS-13 "even though they could find no evidence to support the claim."
"This was an administrative error," one Department of Homeland Security (DHS) official wrote in an email, before adding, "Not that we should say publicly."
Publicly, the administration claimed Abrego Garcia's knuckle tattoos indicated MS-13 membership—though President Donald Trump himself seemed to mistake the White House's Photoshopped labels with Abrego Garcia's actual tattoos.
Xinis "order[ed] that [the administration] return Abrego Garcia to the United States." The Supreme Court intervened, staying Xinis' order but otherwise affirming its finding to "facilitate…the return of [Abrego Garcia] to the United States by no later than 11:59 PM on Monday, April 7."
But the administration refused, illogically claiming it had no right to do so. During an Oval Office meeting in April, both Trump and Salvadoran President Nayib Bukele mocked the idea of returning Abrego Garcia to the U.S. "I don't have the power to return him to the United States," Bukele said. In a legal filing that same day, DHS acting general counsel Joseph Mazzarra said the department "does not have authority to forcibly extract an alien from the domestic custody of a foreign sovereign nation."
"He is not coming back to our country," Attorney General Pam Bondi told Fox News. "President Bukele said he was not sending him back. That's the end of the story."
So, the news on Friday that Abrego Garcia was coming back—and at the Department of Justice's direction, no less—was a bit stunning.
But even though the indictment could very well just be retroactive justification for deporting someone in violation of numerous court orders, it remains the case that a court of law is the ideal place to adjudicate allegations against Abrego Garcia—not unsourced allegations delivered in press conferences and on social media.
"Is it possible that [fellow deportee Andry José] Hernández Romero, Abrego Garcia, and others are members of a gang? It is. It is also possible they are not," wrote Billy Binion in the July 2025 issue of Reason. Finding out whether they deserve to be in prison before sending them there is fundamental to due process.
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Trump administration obeyed SCOTUS? Trump defenders must be outraged. Imagine how more angry they will be when this guy gets due process.
He had due process when he saw an immigration judge in early 2019, he had more due process when he appealed that judges rulings and the Immigration Board of Appeals affirmed the immigration courts findings. What due process do you think he lacked?
So much anger and hate.
Facts equal anger and hate?
Of course.
To the leftists all facts are considered hate speech. Just ask anyone in the U.K. who have been sent to prison for quoting the truth. Any of the 3300 or more serving prison for daring to speak the truth.
What due process do you think he lacked?
The due process to imprison him.
...well, as luck would have it...
I'll note, again, the US did not imprison him. At that time.
The US paid to have him imprisoned. No trial.
This remains false. The payments were for venezuelans.
Liar. The agreement remains secret. You have no idea what it says. What we know is that he was delivered on the same flight and processed the same way as the Venezuelans. And now they're returning him based upon a request by the DOJ. If he wasn't being held under the agreement, why are they releasing a prisoner to the US?
It’s called Extradition. It happens all the time, between different countries, and between different states in the US. Someone in one jurisdiction is indicted for felony crimes (most jurisdictions won’t extradite for Misdemeanors), and that person is located in a second jurisdiction. The first jurisdiction then requests extradition from that second jurisdiction of that person.There are international treaties that essentially require extradition in many cases, and for many crimes. Human trafficking qualifies, but not littering, and probably not entering this country illegally. Interestingly, murder can be iffy, because a number of countries will not extradite if the extraditee faces the death penalty in the requesting country.
That’s why the request worked - El Salvador was bound by treaty to extradite Garcia to the US once he had been indicted for human trafficking in the US, and the US had requested his extradition.
I'll note that El Salvador is his home country. What they do with their citizens is not my concern.
They didn’t have to bring him back dumdum. Doj decided to make you and other leftists look like retards. Even his charging documents show evidence of ms13. Lol.
How many years is he now charged with?
Do you know what one of the requirements on a withholding order are btw? Not violating the law. Whoops.
Retard leftist fuck.
He's being brought back to once again experience his due process... hopefully good and hard this time around with an extended stay at Club Fed
Maybe it's time to make punishments for criminals such as him a wee bit harsher. Like maybe execution. Why should American taxpayers be forced at gunpoint to support that little piece of human excrement while he sits in prison?
SCO-... Birmingham Alabama? Since when do Arlen's boy Long Dong, Gorbasuch, KKKavanaugh, Palito and Mutterkreuz Mom adjudicate other than on behalf of Christian National Socialism and the Flaming Cross of the Ku-Klux Klan?
Do you specialize in stupid comments? The Administration made it clear that no court could force them to bring a citizen of another country here. The DOJ investigated "Maryland Man" and discovered he was deeply involved in human trafficking so requested an extradition and the El Salvador government agreed and shipped him here for trial. Either way, "Maryland Man" is going to spend a great deal of time in prison or be immediately deported again.
Hopefully in prison for a spell, then deportation. if he shows up again, then it will be his last time.
"Do you specialize in stupid comments?"
Lancaster is a TDS-addled slimy pile of shit, so when it comes to Trump, yes. Yes, Lancaster makes stupid comments about Trump about every time he posts.
Lancaster should fuck off and die.
Holy shit, doubling and tripling down on the “scant evidence” laugher.
“It seems to stem” from being pulled over while human trafficking, in a car registered to “his boss” who was a, wait for it – convicted human trafficker/MS-13 member.
Also, the “Maryland Father” became “Maryland Man” when it was revealed his wife’s kids were from another man who – wait for it – sued for custody when she began “living with a gang member”.
And now, we have testimony from his trafficking clients/victims, who allege sexual abuse and assault, including pressuring under age girls to pose for nudes.
Also, there’s the testimony his loving wife gave about him in 2019, talking about the beatings and her fear of him.
The boss already testified he paid the Maryland man. It was Maryland man's job.
ALSO – his actual protective prefer forbids deporting to GUATEMALA, not El Salvador. The links are out there provided by the Tennessee Star, a one man journalistic juggernaut that shames Reason’s regime stenographers at every turn
Yeah I've yet to see an explanation for that. You can read the docs online. Not exactly a state secret.
It is rather garbled. The order was to not deport him to Guatemala but he is not a citizen of there so, ok? I'm not sure what the judge was doing and it may have been confusion on everyone's part as to where that guy was actually from.
The 10/10/19 order jumped back and forth between the two countries – probably because the criminal gang, Barrio 18, trying to extort “rents” from his mother for her baking business, by threatening to kill her sons, apparently forced the family to move from El Salvador to Guatemala to escape them.
As I read the decision, I noted that in the 2nd to last paragraph, the judge found that Garcia had not sufficiently made his case in regards to El Salvador, but in the last (Conclusion) paragraph he found that the government hadn’t made their case in regards to Guatemala. That appears to have incorrectly placed the burden of proof on the govt, and not Garcia. So, you could read it that deportation to both countries was forbidden, or just to Guatemala. I think the latter is the better interpretation. The MD judge obviously disagreed.
The explanation is that "internal relocation" means something very specific in immigration law which you should look up.
Not clear. The 10/19 Immigration judge was all over the place there, jumping back and forth between the two countries. He was born and raised in El Salvador and is a citizen of that country. That is where his family first were extorted by members of the Barrio 18 gang. The family would then move, the gang would again discover them, the gang would then try to extort “rent” from the family, threatening to kill the boys, and the family would again move. The last move was across the border into Guatemala. And that is where Abrego Garcia fled, through Mexico, to the US, from.
What that means is that there were/are three countries that Abrego Garcia can be deported to: Guatemala (where he lived before traveling to the US), El Salvador (where he has citizenship), and Mexico (which was the last country he traveled through before entering the US). It is unlikely that Mexico would take him, but El Salvador was willing to take him. It’s not clear why he wasn’t deported to Guatemala instead of El Salvador.
As I said above, which country he couldn’t be deported to is not clear in the 10/10/19 order granting him Withholding of Removal status. The 2nd to last paragraph says that he didn’t show that it was more likely than not that he would be tortured if removed to El Salvador. But the last paragraph (Conclusion) stated that DHS hadn’t proven that there were changed circumstances in Guatemala that would result in his life not being threatened. So, the question remains whether the 10/10/19 Immigration Court decision banned him from being deported to Guatemala or El Salvador. It was also somewhat jarring when that court put the burden of proof in regards to him being in danger in El Salvador on Abrego Garcia, but in regards to Guatemala, the district put the burden of proof on DHS. I think that DHS could argue that the US govt didn’t violate the 110/10/19 order because they didn’t deport him to Guatemala, where DHS hadn’t met its burden of proof, but instead he was deported to El Salvador, where he hadn’t proven that he would be in danger if deported to El Salvador.
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/25916382-kilmar-abrego-garcia-ij-order-dated-10-10-2019/
Let me add that I did find the statute providing for Withheld Removal, and it puts the burden of proof on the party requesting that status to prevent his removal/deportation. So, the wrong standard of proof was utilized to grant the Withheld Removal status for Garcia.
Thank you for that clarification. I was going to point it out. It's up to the person being deported to prove he/she is under danger not the government and besides, being under threat of violence for illegal activities if you are returned is not a reason that stands up to being deported.
Actually though, I have seen no evidence that his fear for his life was because of his gang relationship. Rather it appears that a criminal gang, Barrio 18, first in El Salvador, then in Guatemala, had repeatedly tried to extort “rent” from his mother for her baking business, and as part of their leverage, they had repeatedly threatened to kill her sons, who had been doing deliveries for her.
Federal officials who were contacted by the Tennessee troopers said there was no need to detain Abrego García, the agency said, and he was issued a warning for driving with an expired driver’s license and allowed to leave. No charges were filed.
WTF! Was this guy on Biden's payroll?
USAID.....
Getting a criminal that is charged with several crimes in the US extradited to the US is easier than getting someone incarcerated in another country released from prison in their country and returned to roam the streets of the US. The US government cannot just tell another country to release their citizens from prison, yet they can have another country extradite criminals to the US to face charges. This is simple to comprehend.
He wasn’t convicted and sentenced in another country. The other country was being paid with US tax dollars to imprison him. Are you ignorant or lying?
This remains false. El Salvador was being paid for the Venezuelans dumdum. Which is allowed under current law when a country of origin refuses repatriation.
God damn your argument from ignorance gets old.
There IS precedent for that. Wannabee candidate McAffee turned up dead "by suicide" in Franco's Spain, right? This of course was nothing like George Sergius de Mohrenschildt turning up dead "by suicide" just before more interrogations abt how Oswald shot JFK through the throat from Commerce street AND the 6th floor all within the same 6 seconds. And whutabout Trump's pal and buddy Epstein expiring "by suicide"? It's like mebbe Wormbrain needs to come up with a vaccine against a Republican agonist suicide epidemic. Heck... one wonders about Tricky and Ford's antichoice buddy Ceausescu... was he too a suicide?
This is the sort of argument that arises from ignorance and of course liberal ideology. None of it making any sense but simply to whine and complain and then accuse someone of being a NAZI!
Are you stupid or just pretending to be? He is a citizen of El Salvador in El Salvador. Do you advocate the US sending the military or a CIA team into the country and kidnapping him? WTF?
Or the State Department twisting their arm, by, for instance, withholding foreign aid and the like. I suspect that the power mad activist MD judge had one of these in mind. It just wasn’t going to happen. Dropping the 82nd Airborne onto the prison, inserting a Seal Team, etc is a plenary Article II C-in-C power, as is conducting foreign policy. Trump, Rubio, and Hegseth weren’t going to stand for it, and neither was the Supreme Court (knowing that the Administration had drawn that line, and they weren’t willing to cross it).
These charges can be pursued in court as it should have been initially. The blatant political lawfare is a bad look on the Trump administration, but at least he found a face saving excuse to cave to SCOTUS. This is all I wanted.
Still, it's pretty shady to have held him in a foreign prison while the investigation took place.
These are strange times.
Democrats did lawfare first and it was wrong. That means it’s not wrong for Trump to do it. But it’s still wrong when Democrats do it. See?
You literally cheered it again Trump, his lawyers, Alex Jones, j6ers, Giuliani, Flynn, etc. Dumbass.
Glad you and qb have outed yourselves so often.
Find a single post I cheered any of that. I've been consistent on this issue rather than purely partisan.
Is that what the grey box said? It used to post links to comments and claim they meant something they didn’t say, then just comments without links and claim they meant something they didn’t say, and now just assertions based upon lies. It’s not like its audience cares about the truth. For it and them it’s all about the feelz. One more thing Trump defenders have in common with the leftists they hate.
Do yoi want me to start posting links? Will you actually admit to being a pathalogical liar if I do?
This is why I call both of you sea lions. No matter how many times someone gives you evidence you just keep asking for more until they get tired of your leftist asses.
What yoi and qb fail to do here is think normal execution of the law for illegals is lawfare to excuse your past support of novel legal creations as actual lawfare. Because you both are evil and leftist.
It doesn't matter to you or qb how much due process was already given to Maryland man despite it being many levels more than what was required. You equate this to bidens doj going after non violent j6ers, Catholics, school board parents, lawyers, etc.
You two are pathetic.
Yep. And doubled down in the next comment too.
Well his response was to sarc and not you. And he has shared links to Sarc cheering shit on in the past. So you're a little bit disingenuous here.
FINALLY, Sarc has noticed the Mute Lewser button! That's 473 fewer televangelists, unfrocked DEA agents and Grand Goblins we have to put up with screeching to convince us that Obama is Satan and The Missing Link, and that Boris Bidenov is Pootin's own KGB agent. Whew. Thank you Minerva!
So anon sockpuppette wants us to rush to dig through past emetica to do research for free... Kewl.
There is nothing "lawfare" about what this case is about.
It is straight in, about the federal crime of human trafficking.
This wasn’t LawFare. It was the MD judge forcing AG Bondi to get Garcia back in the country, and the only realistic way to do that was with extradition for a grand jury felony indictment. Unfortunately for Garcia, that meant a significant investigation in order to prove that his presence in the vehicle smuggling illegals across the country wasn’t innocent happenstance.
Had the Democrats and the media not claimed that this guy is just a hard working dad living the American dream, it's likely his criminality wouldn't have been exposed and ultimately prosecuted. The administration just wanted him deported and he had already been moved out of CECOT to a much better prison by his own account. Might have been released at some point if he hadn't committed any crimes in El Salvador for all we know. Now he has the potential to spend many decades in prison. He is the victim of very bad lawyering. His attorneys were looking for a poster child for their open borders crusade instead of looking out for his best interest.
Same Shit Different Day as the 10 yr. old abortion recipient. Couldn't phone it up the chain that the girl was struggling to get an abortion to POTUS fast enough. The fact that someone, likely a family member, raped a 10 yr. old girl gets the back burner.
Shoot them all with bean bag rounds. Let them figure out what they did wrong.
Yeah. That's all reasonable. Dems aren't innocent in any this either. They are the lawfare champs.
See comment by Dershowitz.
He was not deported because he was a criminal. Thus, there was no CRIMINAL trial. He was deported for the civil crime of illegal entry and was, therefore, deported.
And if he is somehow acquitted, they will just send him somewhere appreciably WORSE than El Salvador. You know, to keep the judges happy and shit.
If he was only deported, I'd have no issue. It was the imprisonment that’s my issue.
I'm aware of your claim that El Salvador put him in prison not the US. I believe that's naive. Both governments are complicit.
I’m aware of your claim that El Salvador put him in prison not the US.
It’s technically true only because of where the prison is located. The reason he and others keep saying it is to imply that he was tried, convicted and sentenced in El Salvador. That couldn’t be farther from the truth. He, and the others who were deported to the torture prison, were not sentenced to prison by a judge. That would be due process, and they don’t want that. They want to imprison illegals without a trial. Illegally entering the country is a misdemeanor by the way. As in jail for less than a year, not indefinite confinement in a foreign torture prison.
He, and the others who were deported to the torture prison, were not sentenced to prison by a judge. That would be due process, and they don’t want that. They want to imprison illegals without a trial.</i?
Notice both the lies and the misinformation. It's a lie that people want illegals jailed, in fact they want them deported. It was in all the commercials.
Then note the misinformation. Trials are not necessary to satisfy due process. In fact many government processes in this country do not include trials including immigration status. People on the right do not want trials because they are expensive, time consuming, and often overseen by people who support open borders and thus routinely flout the law to achieve their political desires. Left wingers want trials for exactly the same reasons.
Few people question the deportations by themselves. It’s the indefinite imprisonment in a foreign prison with no trial, no conviction, and no sentencing that people like myself have a problem with.
Based upon your relentless attacks on anyone who dares to say Trump imprisoning people without trial is wrong, I think it’s pretty safe to infer that you totally approve of Trump imprisoning people without trial.
I mean, you could really clear things up and just say you do or you don’t approve. But I don’t think you will. You won’t say that you approve because then you’d look like a shameless piece of shit. You can’t say Trump was wrong because that would mean agreeing with Democrats. And you just hate Democrats more than anything in the world. So you won’t answer.
Few people question the deportations by themselves. It’s the indefinite imprisonment in a foreign prison with no trial, no conviction, and no sentencing that people like myself have a problem with.
Which is irrelevant to my comment. You claimed people want to put illegals in prison when in fact they want to deport them. That was a lie. These particular illegals ended up in prison because their countries of origin refused to accept them, but this was a secondary action because the desired action of deportation wasn't possible.
Based upon your relentless attacks on anyone who dares to say Trump imprisoning people without trial is wrong,
More lies, you just can't help yourself. Like all left wingers reality simply doesn't matter to you.
Which is irrelevant to my comment.
It is relevant in that you’re intentionally conflating deportation, which doesn’t require a trial, with indefinite incarceration which does.
You claimed people want to put illegals in prison when in fact they want to deport them. That was a lie.
You’re intentionally conflating the two and attacking anyone who says due process is required before incarceration. Based upon that I can reasonably infer that you want them in prison.
More lies, you just can’t help yourself. Like all left wingers reality simply doesn’t matter to you.
Says the guy who is lying by conflation and obfuscation.
By the way you didn’t answer and instead went on the attack, so I'll take that as yes you approve.
It’s only required if they’re being incarcerated here. We can’t control what other countries do with their criminals.
There’s little reason to believe that we paid El Salvador to lock him up, him being their citizen and all. I can see us doing so for the Venezuelans, but the solution to that is to figure out a way to get them back to Venezuela, fuck Maduro.
you’re intentionally conflating deportation,
Amusingly I'm the one making the distinction, only you can't keep up.
I’ll take that as yes you approve.
Of course you will since reality and logical thought are not considerations in your conclusions.
Well, Garcia is in federal custody because he was a apparently a MS-13 gang member actively engaged, over a period of time, in human, gun, and drug (likely including fentanyl) smuggling, primarily from TX to the NE, notably MD.
It's not up to the US to reform every nations prison system. Tough shit to the El Salvador citizen ending up in his own countries prison. Trump did put him there, he was deported to his home country who decided he was a criminal and put him there.
Few people question the deportations by themselves. It’s the indefinite imprisonment in a foreign prison with no trial, no conviction, and no sentencing that people like myself have a problem with.
What foreign prison was that?
So... geographically, where is this Gitmo I've heard so much about?
He's an ES citizen. They have ultimate jurisdiction.
Oh please spare me. I feel absolutely no sympathy for that little POS.
He belongs where he is now, in prison.
He was accidentally deported. There was an active order of deportation for his sorry ass, but it was frozen by an immigration court ordered Withholding Removal order. And, yes, he should have had a hearing first, to determine whether that order was still valid, due to changed circumstances in El Salvador, and maybe even whether it prevented him from being deported to El Salvador in the first place, or just to Guatemala. Both were legitimate deportation destinations (as was Mexico, as his point of entry into the US), and the Immigration Court decision granting that status jumped back and forth between the two countries, but arguably said that he hadn’t made his case for El Salvador, but the government hadn’t made their case against him for Guatemala (statutorily, the burden was on him both times).
“ And if he is somehow acquitted, they will just send him somewhere appreciably WORSE than El Salvador”.
Likely El Salvador will expect him back when the US government is done with him. And will likely get him back.
See the comments at the bottom. Dershowitz suggested that the Dems essentially got what they said they wanted (Garcia back in this country), but not what they really wanted (Garcia free and the Trump Administration embarrassed). Extradition for an alleged felony was the tool that she had to get him back, so she had DOJ and FBI develop a strong enough case to get a grand jury indictment for conspiracy and human trafficking. They wanted Trump or SecState. Rubio to have to bend a knee to the MD judge. Wasn’t going to happen. It was AG Bondi’s problem, and her job was to make it go away. And the main tool she had was extradition, and that required a grand jury felony indictment. Everything else is collateral damage.
First trying to figure out how a van load of "construction workers" going from St. Louis to Maryland ended up in Tennessee. But leaving that aside, the evidence that he was transporting illegals is pretty strong. No luggage and the all of the passengers gave the same home address. The locals contacted the Biden feds and were told to stand down. I wonder why. Of course a grand jury will indict a ham sandwich but the owner of the van is in prison and he apparently has a lot to say about the beloved Maryland Man. Reportedly the trip from St. Louis (?) was one of 100. And Garcia reportedly was a little handsy with the females in the van including minors. Also purported to be connected to a murder and the deaths of a bunch of illegals in a semi trailer. Of course Lancaster has already adjudicated the case and declared this guy a victim of political prosecution. Look Joe. You idiots decided to make this scumbag into a hero out of pure animus for Trump's (very popular) deportations. You fucked up. You lost the argument. And it's really pathetic to see you twist yourself into knots pretending otherwise.
He could have been delivering them other places. He already lied about being in St Lous, license plate reader data confirmed that his vehicle had not been near St. Louis for 12 months, and instead had been in Houston. I'd like to know who the feds were that okayed his release.
As a former career truck driver I can say with certainty that TN is not on the way to MD from MO unless you specifically go there. He had to have been doing that for a reason and when he told the cops in TN that I know it rang all kinds of bells as it made zero sense.
The DOJ admits it had a little egg on its face after Killmore Alfredo Tequila stepped off the return flight holding a leash with a half-dozen underage girls shackled together, and carrying a duffel bag full of automatic rifles and fentanyl. Unsure of what to do, and looking back and forth to each other for guidance, they then failed to intervene when his wife stepped up to receive him and he promptly fractured her orbital socket.
In responding to our inquiries, a DOJ spokeman nervously muttered, “Uhhh… d…diversity is our strength?”
I like when you people are mask-off, if even a little.
If genocidal racism is so important to you people, why do you hide it so securely up your vaginas?
Why make ludicrous arguments about why the constitution doesn’t apply in this instance or about how you’re so libertarian that you just can’t stop talking about all the ways you want to put humans in cages or war zones for no good reason?
For the life of me, I don’t understand having political beliefs you think are so embarrassing you lie about them in polite company. I have no such beliefs. I don’t have beliefs I’m not publicly proud of. Why have them otherwise?
But you can do better. Just say “I think Latinos are inferior and annoying and should be purged from my country so I don’t have to deal with them” or whatever.
I went for a diet version of what you probably actually think, but good luck getting any of you to completely admit to the deeply cherished principles you think are so important.
For the life of me, I don’t understand having political beliefs you think are so embarrassing you lie about them in polite company.
I highly doubt AT spends any time around "polite company".
If genocidal racism is so important to you people
Who said anything about genocidal racism?
I took a jab at a career criminal gangster who makes his living off of trafficking in women, guns, and drugs, and who beats his wife. Who, for some reason, we've decided is the most important person in America when it comes to "Justice" or whatever.
The real question is, why are you stumping for this punk SOB?
Because progressives are always fervently pro-criminal.
Indeed. They support rapists, murderers and child molesters, such as the rapist killer of Laken Riley. To them he is a hero. Liberals worship pedophiles anyway.
"genocidal racism"? Well, that's not out of left field at all and says quite a bit about your bias.
Tony is entirely too imbecilic to engage in good-faith discussions. Go drink yourself to death, shitbag.
Ah! Altruist Totalitarian pops out to belch some Trump Truth Social as a break from ßhitter.
ngl, it was mostly a break from your mom.
Reason:
Snowden? Assange? Ulbricht? - DrakeSaysNo.jpg
Griner? Garcia? - DrakeSaysYeah.jpg
There's a reason why people openly hate you and proclaim that it's not enough.
On May 21, the same day the grand jury returned the indictment, Ben Schrader, head of the Nashville U.S. Attorney's Office's Criminal Division, resigned. Sources told ABC News it was "prompted by concerns that the case was being pursued for political reasons."
What a coincidence. The original case was also not pursued for political reasons, but since Reason approves of that outcome politically driven law enforcement was not a problem then.
Should also be noted how NOBODY in the deep state seems to resign on prosecutions that go after the state's enemies.
Almost like they ain't impartial...
I wouldn't say MS13 is an enemy of the state. They are criminals and as such they are a core Dem constituency similar to government employees and therefore Dems protect them however they can.
The same with TdA. and along with other Latin and Asian gangs.
They are ten times more dangerous than the old Mob.
Round them all up and put them in our own special version of CECOT.
Disagree. The MS-13 gang members involved in this human, drugs, and gun smuggling network were actively breaking the laws of the land. Moreover, they were apparently bringing guns into “gun free” states like MD, for use by criminals there, against the disarmed public, and the drugs very likely included fentanyl, which has already killed large numbers of mostly younger Americans. So, why isn’t MS-13 an enemy of the state?
Boo! Hoo! Harmeet Dhillon Has apparently lost 70% of her prosecutors in her Civil Rights Division, butt hurt from being retasked from protecting transsexuals, Muslims, and illegals, and prosecuting traditionalist Roman Catholics and Republican leaning political protesters, to fighting antisemitism and the like. Apolitical government employees do what they are tasked to do by their politically elected leaders tell them to do. Activist government employees quit when their democratically elected leaders change their mission away from where they want to be going. Which means that the y weren’t in it for the good of the country, but to further their own political aims.
Maryland Father drives around tourists on sight-seeing junket! He was the food-truck of getting people from A to Home Depot.
Future historical El Salvadoran astronaut until Trump ruined his career.
And does it over 100 times, and none of the tourists are legally in this country. And does it with MS-13 gang members every time. Pure coincidence.
I'm a little disappointed in Reason. When Liz was on this she asked if the only evidence was a statement made by a random bystander waiting in the lot of a Home Depot.
But now we know he was identified as MS13 as part of a custody action by an unrelated man [it's unclear to me if he's the children's father or just the wife's new boyfriend after our leftist hero beat the shit out of her]. But Reason doesn't mention this evidence, they tactically avoid doing so by claiming the issue is something different than whether he is in fact an MS13 member thus allowing their previous and now known to be false assertion to stand unreformed.
Kinda slimy.
Great point. All the more reason to not give the guy any due process. Those accusations are proof of guilt. Just put him in prison without a trial. Oh, Trump already did that. Well, put him in an American prison without a trial. Right? It's not like he's a person or something. He's an illegal. He has no rights.
I see sarc is trying to direct focus away from the fact that Dems refuse to enforce the law when it conflicts with their political agenda. It's kind of revealing since he pretends to oppose that on principle rather than only when it helps him attack non-leftists.
Why is it ok for Trump to condemn people to indefinite confinement in a foreign torture prison with no due process, no trial, no conviction, and no sentence?
Oh, oh, I know! I know! Democrats! That’s why!
Did I get it right?
Why is it ok for Trump to condemn people to indefinite confinement in a foreign torture prison with no due process, no trial, no conviction, and no sentence?
It's interesting one of your biggest whines is that people criticize you for things you haven't said. But as we see you do it all the time. That's because you are an unprincipled hack who has literally never applied to yourself or your allies the standards you use to criticize others.
Pardon me for inferring that you approve of Trump condemning people to indefinite imprisonment without a trial based on your relentless personal attacks on anyone who dares to suggest it was wrong.
Does this mean you’re saying Trump was wrong? Or are you degenerating into a degenerate clown like Sevo and just shouting at people because you like to shout at people?
Does this mean you’re saying
It means you have literally never applied any standard you use to criticize others to yourself of your allies. This is because you're a propagandist only interested in supporting the narrative and both uninterested in and incapable of principled analysis.
More attacks means you approve. Thanks for the answer.
Dear Sarc, we are not dealing with some little old lady who steals a head of lettuce. We are dealing with known criminals, a certain percentage who are members of dangerous gangs. Dangerous as in violent threats to the community and anyone else who gets in their way. They are not immune to murdering an entire family for revenge.
The situation in Aurora, Co. should be a lesson as to how these gangsters operate.
We are dealing with a violent culture worse than any common street gang.
When will you liberals wake up and pull your heads out of your buttocks?
Nope. Drugs. Bert Hoover and Harry Anslinger, Nixon, Reagan, Biden, Bill Bennett left no doubt that insulin-shooting dope attics (NOT prohibition laws) were the downfall of These Yewnighted Staats. Drei Liter!
That isn’t the case with Garcia…
He’s going to get a lot more Due Process now than he deserves, and it’s going to hurt.
Give Trump a break Joe, nationalizing tiktok is eating up all his time. Fucking putz.
The method to make another country send their own citizen here is extradition. Tell me why that is worthwhile when he had no right to be here anyway?
The US didn't bring him back. El Salvador let him go.
And Trump already asked once. Then he asked twice. If Bukele had said no again what was Trump expected to do next?
You mean Trump asked him to say no. Twice. Then the Justice Department asked him to return the guy, so he did.
Which is plain silly. Garcia was a citizen of El Salvador, in custody of the government of El Salvador. He is their citizen, and we had no legal right to demand him back. That’s pretty basic International Law. And we can’t request extradition, until and unless for a felony crime that he has been indicted for. Which is precisely what the DOJ did.
The DOJ indicted him on multiple felonies, of a type that El Salvador will extradite for, the DOJ requested extradition, El Salvador acquiesced, he was extradited to stand trial for those felonies, and will be sent back there after he leaves federal custody, either after an acquittal, or after serving his sentence. And highly likely will be in federal custody, of one type or another, until he is returned to El Salvador.
For those suggesting that the US govt should have done something else, or done something differently, to get him back, please specify exactly what you think they should have done, and why that wouldn’t have interfered with the President’s Article II powers to conduct foreign relations and/or as Commander-in-chief. For example, If SecState Rubio had had to lean on El Salvador, that would have been interference with the President’s power to conduct foreign relations, and if SecDef Hegseth had had to drop the 82nd Airborne on the prison in El Salvador holding Garcia, that would have interfered with his power as Commander-in-Chief (as well as the conduct of foreign relations). And, no, neither Trump, Rubio, nor Hegseth were going to do anything of the kind, because that would be ceding critical Article II powers to the Judiciary,
After he's found guilty of human trafficking, he will spend decades in prison after which he will be extradited back to the shite hole he came from and NOT turned loose on the American people.
That little creep belongs behind bars and please spare me the poor little victims of white oppression bullshit.
Alan Dershowitz has an intresting take. Coming back to the US may have been a huge blunder on Garcia's part.
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https://townhall.com/tipsheet/rebeccadowns/2025/06/09/defense-attorney-alan-dershowitz-slams-big-mistake-that-abrego-garcias-attorneys-made-n2658459
As much as I don't care for Dershowitz, I have to agree with him. It's obvious, there's plenty of evidence to convict.
I can't wait for MSNBC or the sanctimonious hypocrites on CNN to whine about it when he's sent to prison.
The MD judge thought that he could push Trump and his Administration around. Or just wanted to, for political reasons. Wasn’t going to happen. Trump wasn’t going to be pushed around by some two bit activist lower court judge in MD. Rubio wasn’t going to be pushed around by him either, because that would permanently cede some of his Department’s power to conduct foreign policy to the Judiciary. And Hegseth wasn’t going to help either. That meant that AG Bondi was pretty much on her own here. It was her problem.
So, no doubt, there were staff meetings about how to make the problem go away. So someone, no doubt, suggested that maybe the tats, Chicago Bulls hat, and encounter with the state police in TN, weren’t just coincidences, but rather the tip of ann iceberg. And she probably told Patel to check it out. He did, and found out that that was very likely the case. Notice what was alleged by the grand jury in the indictment – that he had made over 100 cross country trips across the country with MS-19 gang members, primarily from TX to MD. That took a lot of digging by the FBI (and hence why it took so long). Trillions of cell phone tower records had to be searched, over maybe a decade, not only for where he had gone, but also who he had been traveling with. Similar to what they had done to the J6 defendants, but probably on a broader scale. No doubt, it was probably made worse by the MS-13 gang members involved periodically switching out their cell phones. And with their list of his traveling accomplices, they needed to break one or more of them, which they apparently did.
It was a significant effort, presumably primarily by the FBI. They were likely happy to do it, because it opened up a significant MS-13 human, drugs, and gun trafficking network. And that is what Patel and Bongino want the FBI concentrating on, and not political and religious persecutions and the like. But the important thing here is that this MS-13 human, drugs, and gun trafficking network was discovered, and that Garcia was an active participant in it, because the MD judge was trying to push the Trump Administration around, by threatening contempt, and the tool that AG Bondi came up with was extradition for human trafficking.
And That’s what Dershowitz was talking about – that the Dems essentially forced the DOJ/FBI to build that case against Garcia for human trafficking, in order to get him extradited back here. That was the only realistic way that they were going to get Garcia back in this country, without interfering with Trump’s plenary Article II powers.
Oh, and to add icing to the top of the cake, the activist MD judge can’t really touch Garcia. His criminal case is under another judge, in another district and state. And probably nothing he can do about it.
I don't really care Margaret. Reason loves the "Maryland man". Now he's home and they mad.
Well, not home in MD. It’s unlikely that he gets there anytime soon. But yes, back in the US. He’s been indicted by a grand jury for human trafficking and conspiracy. Given the facts and evidence that are probably behind that indictment, he’s probably in bailable, as an extreme flight risk. Hiding people from the government is a big part of what human traffickers do. And the indictment does not allege that he was involved in that single instance, but rather engaged in it routinely, with over 100 cross country trips with other MS-13 gang members across country. Plus, those 100+ trips with MS-13 gang members blows up the claim that he was mistaken for one because of his Chicago Bulls hat. Moreover, the agreement between the US and El Salvador probably requires that he be returned to them when the US govt is done with him.