Trade War Means Higher Prices, Fewer Customers for This Vermont Distillery: 'It's Just Chaos'
Scenes from a trade war.

From her distillery on the banks of Vermont's Mad River, Mimi Buttenheim is worried about a very different stream of madness—one that doesn't pour down from the picturesque Green Mountains, but directly out of the White House.
"This isn't a policy. This is just a sort of shoot-from-the-hip kind of gut reaction. There's no strategy here at all," she says of President Donald Trump's trade war, which is threatening to raise prices (due to tariffs) on critical inputs and turn away many of the Canadian tourists that she counts on as customers.
"I don't see any long-term goal except chaos," Buttenheim told Reason. "It's just chaos, and we're trying to—as business owners—we're trying to react to it on a day-to-day basis."
Buttenheim is the president of Mad River Distillers, which opened in a converted horse farm in Warren, Vermont, in 2013 and has grown to be one of the larger craft distilleries in the state. Between the main distillery and a new tasting room in Burlington, about an hour north, Mad River employs 14 people and churns out 8,000 cases of whiskey, brandy, and other spirits each year.
But even a small, craft operation like Mad River is part of the global system of commerce that Trump is determined to upend. Buttenheim tells Reason that Mad River sources its whiskey bottles from Europe via an importer in Montreal. Other essential packaging products, like cardboard boxes, also cross the border from Canada. Those suppliers are now telling her that price increases are coming, even though no one seems to be sure exactly what tariffs will be charged—as the Trump administration's trade policies are constantly shifting.
"I think the uncertainty is the hardest part because it makes it very difficult to plan," she says.
That might be an understatement. The Trump administration has announced new or revised tariff policies more than 50 times since taking office in January, according to a tally by The Washington Post. Not all of those changes affect every business or industry, of course, but the White House's fickle and unilateral control over trade is fracturing supply chains and causing headaches.
For Buttenheim, those headaches aren't just about supply. She's also worried about reduced demand for Mad River's products, particularly if tourism from Canada dries up as a consequence of the Trump administration's policies—not the tariffs so much as new immigration enforcement and the threats to annex America's northerly neighbor.
"In northern Vermont, we typically see a lot of tourists from Canada—from Quebec and Ontario—over the summer and the fall, and I just don't think they're coming this year," Buttenheim told Reason.
More than 750,000 Canadians visited Vermont last year, but the number of border crossings has been sharply down in 2025, according to the Burlington Free Press.
The trade war also means fewer bottles of whiskey crossing the border. While Mad River does not export its products to Canada, Buttenheim says other distillers in Vermont expect to see sales drop now that Canada has slapped a 25 percent tariff on American whiskey and some Canadian liquor stores have removed American products from their shelves.
"The problem is that even if they decided to turn the pipeline back on, that's market share that these brands have lost by not being on the shelf," says Buttenheim, who also serves as president of the Distilled Spirits Council of Vermont, a trade association. "Consumers are fickle. And when consumers don't see a brand for a certain amount of time, it sort of fades to the back of their mind. That is market share that's really, really difficult to get back."
Like other small businesses harmed by Trump's trade war, Mad River seems to be getting hit on both sides of the ledger—and with costs that are both seen and unseen. Higher prices created by tariffs are the intended consequence of Trump's trade policies, and the White House believes (despite what economists say) that those higher costs will encourage more investment in American businesses. The unintended consequences include the loss of customers, market access, and future growth. The same dynamic is hitting distillers of all sizes, threatening to devastate the country's burgeoning craft whiskey industry.
What would Buttenheim tell Trump if she had a chance? Two things, she says.
"Why are we punishing our next-door neighbors who are our biggest ally?" she says. Her suppliers in Quebec might be on the other side of the border, but they are a lot closer than other suppliers that she might be able to find in the United States. So why not let the market find the most efficient way to provide the bottles and equipment she needs?
Secondly, she says everyone just wants some stability.
"We can't run our businesses reactively," she says. "We have to be proactive, and there's no way to do that when things change day by day."
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clearly you have forgotten the lessons of Star Trek II
Always shoot first?
The republicans are toast
Special elections are showing about a 15 point swing to the Democrats. That would flip about 9 Senate seats and over 40 House seats.
And that is BEFORE the disastrous economic effects of the tariffs take effect. The Republicans will deserve the trashing they will get.
Hillary will win!
So, you’ve been writing really bad democrat fan fiction again.
That was Han.
shorter series if he doesn't shoot first.
I would say that Boehm and Reason have just gotten fucking sad, but that ship sailed at least a month ago.
A month? Boehm got fucking sad over five years ago.
I was being uncharacteristically charitable towards the red diaper fifth column retard.
So, a distillery that employs 14 people having to buy its bottles domestically is your horror story? I guess the trade war is going pretty damned well. Sometimes things do go better than expected.
Yes, small employers should be PUNISHED!!! Let them fire their employees!!! Let them all "learn to code", or to wait tables!!!
The more that Trump can tariff-tax people and yank them around like puppets on strings, with ever-changing tariffs, the BETTER! Because all of the GOOD people, the RIGHT TRIBE people, love to self-righteously PUNISH-PUNISH-PUNISH, even if all butt a few "Special People" and businesses who get tariff-tax exemptions, will SUFFER!!!
If small producers are being punished, then there should be more and better anecdotes than this. Anecdotes are just that, anecdotes.
I get it that you are more towards the sarcasmic side on the intelligence scale. Even you should understand that an anecdote, and in this case not even a very good one, is very poor evidence of the larger truth.
This is an old and ugly story, that tariffs and protectionism do SNOT work at ALL!!!
Is the below ALSO a mere "anecdote"?
https://reason.com/2020/01/22/trump-campaigned-on-saving-factory-jobs-but-u-s-manufacturing-just-went-through-a-year-long-recession/
Clear-cut case below, showing the UTTER FAILURE of protectionism in general, and Trumpist protectionism specifically:
Meanwhile in the real world…
https://reason.com/2019/04/22/trumps-washing-machine-tariffs-cleaned-out-consumers/
Trump’s Washing Machine Tariffs Cleaned Out Consumers
A new report finds the tariffs raised $82 million for the U.S. Treasury but ended up increasing costs for consumers by about $1.2 billion.
PROTECTIONISM DOESN’T WORK!!! DUH!!!
Protect American washing-machine makers from Chinese competition? The FIRST thing that American washing-machine makers do, is jack UP their prices… AND the prices of dryers to boot, too! To SOAK the hell out of all of us consumers!!!
From the above-linked Reason article about washing machines…
“All told, those tariffs raised about $82 million for the U.S. Treasury but ended up increasing costs for consumers by about $1.2 billion during 2018 … (deleted). Although the trade policy did cause some manufacturers to shift production from overseas to the United States in an effort to avoid the new tariffs, the 1,800 jobs created by Trump’s washing machine tariffs cost consumers an estimated $820,000 per job.”
Summary: Nickels and dimes to the USA treasury; boatloads of pain for consumers. USA jobs created? Yes, at GREAT expense! Putting these 1.8 K workers on a super-generous welfare program would have been WAY better for all the rest of us! Plus, you know the WORKERS don’t make super-huge bucks (no $820,000 per job for THEM); the goodies flow to the EXECUTIVES at the top of the washing-machine companies! The same ones who play golf with The Donald, and join him for gang-banging Spermy Daniels! Essentially at our expense!
Despite being an old monkey, I don't speak monkey very well these days. So, your screaming like a monkey doesn't really help.
In fairness, did you respond to my point that anecdotes are not proof with two anecdotes as some kind of a joke? Anecdotes from 2022 that try and attribute a downturn in manufacturing to Trump instead of THE PANDEMIC? If you did, that is pretty funny. Bravo.
If not, then there is really not much old monkey can do for you if you are that stupid.
https://reason.com/2019/04/22/trumps-washing-machine-tariffs-cleaned-out-consumers/ predates COVID! Duh!!!
Refuted NONE of what I wrote! Has human nature and GREED changed since 2019 or 2022? All Ye got is NAME-calling!
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You said nothing worthy of refute. You just gave two anecdotes that were both ridiculous. Yes, I am quite a talented writer. It is a talent I have waisted thanks to my vice of talking to retarded people on comment boards.
A new report finds the tariffs raised $82 million for the U.S. Treasury but ended up increasing costs for consumers by about $1.2 billion.
Just another random fact pointing nowhere, right, Right-Wing Nut-Job Trump-sucker?
MAGA is very happy to destroy the US economy.
No fag, that was the senile Biden and his retarded drunk VP.
Have you always been this stupid?
SW, don’t waste you time with squirrels.
He is just a screaming monkey flinging shit. It is a bit terrifying how these people can't even spell or use complete sentences anymore. They used to be able to at least do that. They seem to get more deranged all of the time.
PervFected Ones LOSE arguments on the actual DATA, then self-righteously insult the supposed wrong-Tribe "losers" of the "debate". Debate wrong-Tribe "losers" will "lose" when the armies of PervFected Tribalists all join in and, in cummon, throw grade-school insults on the "losers", for pretending the data and history actually mean a damned thing!
He is just a screaming monkey flinging shit.
SQRLSY doesn't fling shit, because that would deprive him of his 2nd Breakfast.
Dammit, red rocks, you beat me to it.
And thank you for the surrender flag, twit.
You have no clue how destructive Trump's mercurial narcissism is. It's not about the tariffs or the trade war. It is about his insistence that the old heliocentric or geocentric systems are dead. Long live the Trumpocentric system. His daily whims and farts must be worshiped and obeyed. His tweets must now have the same scrutiny as the Kremlin/Fed watching of old. Your business will be gutted if you are not paying to send someone to the White House to kiss the great orange dingleberry.
This is not how big economies function.
And yet this big economy functioned better than it ever had under the first Trump Administration and is functioning quite well now.
Don't let actual events debase you of your beliefs and superstitions. You are stronger than that.
Idiot. Trump gave us the highest unemployment rate since the Great Depression. Oil and gas exploration almost stopped. Record federal budget deficits. The rich did get richer because he had the Fed print money to prop up the stock market. But for most of us....
Actually governor's, especially democrats, did that retard.
I love that these guys keep using Covid as their gotcha. It's endlessly hilarious.
Neat how Boehm et. al have started to admit Trump's fighting a trade war instead of merely slapping on tariffs.
Of course now the "libertarian" view is that trade warfare is bad and you should just let China and the EU have all their tariffs on American goods and not do anything to stop it.
That is because the way to get rich is to buy stuff. The measure of wealth is not how much you produce. It is how much you buy. The more you buy the more you save. Didn't you know that?
So we should all STOP buying? THIS will be the route to betterment? Are ye giving up your climate-cuntrolled house, and sleeping in the grass and in the mud, and letting the worms and bugs bite Your Big Fat Beautiful PervFected Butt yet? Or are Ye being a PervFected HYPOCRITE?
So we should all STOP buying? THIS will be the route to betterment?
To some extent yes. It is called savings and investment. Anyone who isn't a political hack and has even a crude understanding of macro economics knows that the US consumes too much and saves and invests too little.
Beyond that, the larger point is that consumer spending power is not a good measure of wealth, since it varies with price and can be driven by debt. The proper measure of wealth is production. You don't measure your wealth by how much money you spend every month, or at least you don't if you have any sense. You measure your wealth by how much money you make every month.
Why should I save and invest in the stock market, when Dear Orange Leader makes MUCH of if disappear from random, chaotic, politically-caused rather than market-caused fluctuations? I have lost a LOT of money on the markets due to NONE other than TRUMP and His PervFected Unprovoked Sacred Trade Wars!
TWAT is the point of "producing" when we do SNOT cuntsume? So are ye yet sleeping in the grass and in the mud, and letting the worms and bugs bite Your Big Fat Beautiful PervFected Butt, in order to SAVE and DEAR-DONALD-INFEST Yer money?
Why should I save and invest in the stock market,
Considering that you are functionally retarded, I don't think you should. I don't think you should be living unsupervised but that is another issue.
TWAT is the point of "producing" when we do SNOT cuntsume?
There is this old story about a grasshopper and an ant. I don't even know where to begin to try and explain this stuff to you. I don't have any formal training in dealing with the developmentally disabled.
Invest in Trump (and Trump Inc.) and let Him add yet MORE bankruptcies to the SIX that He already wracked up! TRUST in Trump-to-the-Dump who steals money through bankruptcies and now through random trade wars!!! Ye will soon see... IF Ye can open Yer Pervfected eyes!
Does shit mean NOTHING to Ye, that every time Donald escalates His Stupid and Evil Trade Wars, the stock market falls, and every time Dear Orange Leader retreats and retracts, the markets go UP? Have Ye EVER heard of the "wisdom of the masses", or even know twat "wisdom" is to start with?
You should never invest in anything. You shouldn't be allowed to have a checkbook. That is true, but really doesn't have to do with anything that we are talking about.
Won't answer my questions ass usual, because You HAVE no honest answers with which to defend that which can SNOT be defended!
I muted the dipshit this morning. He's like a cross between Jesse and ML, with an extra dose of shrill stupidity. Probably a sock.
I love it sarcasmic thinks I am a sock. I think he suspects but just can't believe.
LOL @ “muted”.
LOL!
/going a little elementary with this just for the hell of it...
Sarc and Sqrlsy shitting in a tree,
D-R-I-N-K-I-N-G.
First comes Colt,
Next comes Bonne's,
Then comes Sqrlsy eating his own shit!
Here’s a scene from ‘Its Always Sunny in Philadelphia’, where the gang encounters Sarc and SQRLSY consummating their far left love…..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9YFvWiZyuY
WARNING: Not entirely SFW.
A rose by any other name...
And Reason called Trump's tariff policies a trade war since 2016 before he was even elected. Boehm first used it in 2018 in a headline (as far as my 2 seconds of searching).
Study Attempts to Show Exactly How Trump's Trade Wars Devastate the Poor
- Scott Shackford | May 12, 2016
Everyone Loses as China Escalates Trade War With Tariffs on American Pork, Fruit, and More
- Eric Boehm | April 2, 2018
If China and the EU want to impoverish their citizens by over taxing them, that is to the benefit of the US.
A few decades ago, Europe and the US were similarly prosperous. Today, the US is MUCH more prosperous than Europe. Trump is trying to make America look like Europe.
https://thedispatch.com/article/united-states-wealth-europe-gdp-prosperity/
Higher prices are patriotic, so suck it.
Weren't you shitting your pants yesterday over Trump wanting Most-Favored-Nation pricing for pharmaceuticals?
Corporations are the only people it cares about.
Because it’s Trump. Anything Trump does is evil.
He doesn't have the legal authority to do that, but you don't really care about the law.
And you don’t know anything about the law. So it’s a good fit.
Didn't you just again demand more income taxes just yesterday?
"Why are we punishing our next-door neighbors who are our biggest ally?" she says.
Because billionaires need an extra 2% income increase. Don't be selfish, peasant.
WTF does that even mean?
Special People get Special Exemptions from tariffs, and then Dear Orange Leader will denigrate the poor folks who can't afford any dolls for their children, while Elon Musk (of the Elongated Tusk) buys hundreds and hundreds of dolls for His 30 children by His Harem of 10 women! THAT is twat SOME of us are cuntcerned about!
I am sorry I only speak English and a little Monkey. I don't speak Southern Gicci or whatever it is you are screaming.
Empty-headed, PervFected Wonder Child has nothing other than insults, I see... Butt can SNOT admit to being WRONG!!!
Again, you need to speak English, use your words, try and use proper spelling, and speak in complete sentences, if you want me to understand what you are saying.
There is no hope that Ye will EVER understand what I am saying, because Ye are already PervFected in Your Own Eyes! One can add NOTHING new to the vessel which is already totally FULL of Shitself!
It might help if you used more all caps. You don't sound quite deranged enough, Sqrlsy.
Has he puked out his ‘Tim the Enchanter’ bullshit?
Honestly, can’t we just have this creature put down?
Don’t encourage it. It’ll just fling more shit.
[WE] don't *EARN*/create anything!
[WE] Identify-as 'poor'!
[WE] can't afford a mountain of dolls and ponies!
[WE] need Gov-Guns to STEAL from those 'icky' Musk *earners* ...
[OUR] mountain of dolls and ponies!
Bernies campaign speech.
I dunno? Why are our next-door neighbors getting taxed as high as 85% yet foreign billionaires have to be Tax/Regulation-Exempt?
No one is being taxed at 85% in the US.
He’s referring to Canada dumbass. Reread that and this time employee some reading comprehension. That is if you’re not blackout drunk yet.
U.S. federal corporate income tax 52.8 percent in 1969.
Mississippi State Manf Tax 17.8% - 70.6%
Unemployment Taxes, SS Taxes, etc... Yea; It easily gets to 85%.
Course you'd never know how bad it is living off of welfare checks.
https://taxfoundation.org/data/all/state/location-matters-effective-tax-rates-manufacturers-state/
Wow. As I've said before, whenever I think you couldn't be any more stupid, you prove me wrong.
U.S. federal corporate income tax 52.8 percent in 1969.
It's 2025.
Mississippi State Manf Tax 17.8% - 70.6%
Yeah right. Prove it.
Unemployment Taxes, SS Taxes, etc... Yea; It easily gets to 85%.
Those are based upon workers. So they're not simply added to your imaginary 70.6% "manufacturing tax".
Course you'd never know how bad it is living off of welfare checks.
I don't know how bad it is to live off welfare checks. You're right. I haven't been unemployed for more than a week since I was fourteen. You said you're in Mississippi, which is one of if not the poorest and least educated states. Bunch of illiterate, toothless yokels on welfare who fuck their sisters and cousins. Explains a lot.
And your own link contradicts everything you just said about taxes.
God damn you're dumb. Likely more inbred than a sandwich.
I’m so stupid I get space in sarc’s head with no rent!
Welcome to the big leagues sir.
"as high as" and the link is right (proof) is right in front of you.
Thanks to Trumps Tax-Cuts and Jobs Act Corporate tax is now 20%.
Making it *FAR* more feasible to actually create VALUE in the USA.
Just because you want to ignore payroll taxes doesn't mean they don't have to get paid by US manufacturing.
You have nothing but 1st grade name-calling mentality.
And I doubt he pays any taxes on the cash he earns ‘staffing’ the glory hole down at the bus station.
""Because billionaires need an extra 2% income increase. ""
Soros says those protests won't fund themselves.
But even a small, craft operation like Mad River is part of the global system of commerce that Trump is determined to upend. Buttenheim tells Reason that Mad River sources its whiskey bottles from Europe via an importer in Montreal. Other essential packaging products, like cardboard boxes, also cross the border from Canada.
I see a business opportunity here. I mean, remember what we've always been told... getting product from faraway places is bad for the environment and spews more carbon into the air. And isn't Reason regularly telling us that efforts to reduce carbon are "a good thing"?
They don't teach, well anything really, but not that in business schools.
It's all about maximizing your short term gains.
the global system of commerce
I'm sorry, there's absolutely nothing that Trump is doing here that is without precedent nor even brand new, not even the revival of the US vs. Canada rivalry of the late 90s.
Oh look. Another Trump defender defending rent-seeking, cronyism, protectionism, mercantilism, and central planning. Must be a day that ends in 'y'.
You get really angry when people more intelligent and informed than you don't barely just go with anti trump MSNBC arguments.
Sarc is like the troll under the bridge. And no one is allowed to agree with Trump ever.
He's a pretty shitty troll. Maybe that why Sqrlsy likes him so much.
"Buttenheim tells Reason that Mad River sources its whiskey bottles from Europe via an importer in Montreal. Other essential packaging products, like cardboard boxes, also cross the border from Canada. "
Such a shame we can't manufacture cardboard boxes and glass bottles in America.
It is not like the large majority of US distillers source their bottles in the US or anything. Is there a phrase for whatever comes after grasping at straws?
Oh look. Another Trump defender defending rent-seeking, cronyism, protectionism, mercantilism, and central planning. Must be a day that ends in 'y'.
When did you add autism to your retardation?
No, that would make him smarter. He’s just a retarded drunk.
Oh look. Sarc puts his Trump Derangement Syndrome on display again while showing off his general drunkenness and retardedness. Must be a day that ends in 'y'.
Better than him going full nazi in the other thread.
And I thought sarcasmizek was broken before.
Read that. He's channeling his inner J(ew)free.
Such a shame we feel we have to force businesses to pay higher prices for everything by insisting that they buy only in the US.
Funny, Normally you’re pretty ok with government forcing people to do all kinds of things. Like take an experimental vaccine.
Assholes like charlie preening about this, as if they give a flying fuck about businesses (large or small), after continuous bitching that they don't pay enough taxes, that they need to be regulated and controlled by government fiat (up to and including forcibly shutting them down for months on end), grates on my last nerve.
It's like when they run around going "The rich need to pay their fair share!" then cry like little bitches when the Republicans capped the SALT tax deduction.
It’s crazy to think you could find someone in Vermont that would blame their problems on trump.
Ben from Ben and Jerry's was arrested this week. So they had to change plans.
That arrest makes me pray for police brutality.
He was shouting in a senate hearing? Sounds like an insurrection. Shoot him in the face for trespassing on public property.
How's that going to affect the delivery of Jeffy's daily 55-gallon drum?
Is MAPedo Jeffy ho,dimg a vigil? We all know it wont be a hinger strike.
Vermont
There are 49 other states you could source from, all tariff free.
Oh look. Another Trump defender defending rent-seeking, cronyism, protectionism, mercantilism, and central planning. Must be a day that ends in 'y'.
Poor sarc. Morphed into a parrot.
You have copypasta as shitty as Sqrlsy's.
A Google search for US wholesale glass bottles returns over 10 pages of results.
The same for US wholesale cardboard boxes.
I wonder why Eric left out the cost numbers and a comparison to US sources?
Oh, yeah. That would be "journalism".
"Proactive" in this case would be using US sources. At least for the next four years.
Oh look. Another Trump defender defending rent-seeking, cronyism, protectionism, mercantilism, and central planning. Must be a day that ends in 'y'.
Yes, no one ever bought products from American suppliers ever in its history.
They should be allowed to buy from whatever supplier they like best, without being penalized by the government. At least that's what supporters of free markets say.
People who oppose economic freedom will say it's just wonderful that the government is using high import taxes to steer her decisions away from what she thinks is best and towards what government thinks is best.
Which one are you? You a free marketer or a central planner?
They should be allowed to buy from whatever supplier they like best
If the supplier they like best is a Chinese company that employes slave labor, you are done with that? And the American suppliers who can't compete with slave labor are just supposed to go bankrupt?
He doesn’t know. It’s all about hating Trump and supporting Democrat narratives with him.
What about selling to anyone they want? Oh wait. You believe foreign actions are fine.
They can still buy from whoever they want. Even in your idiocy.
You don't understand. MAGA has taken over the Libertarian movement and has decided that Central Planning is the way to Economic Freedom.
Lenin is smiling. He finally found his Useful Idiots in the US.
It is amazing how retarded fake Harvard graduates have become.
Can you all please read some books? Start with dictionaries.
Sarc has been reduced to just copy and pasting. Grim.
He's channeling his inner squirrel.
There can be brand recognition associated with bottle shape. Changing the shape of the product can impact sales.
Funny how all these sooper-dooper smart blue staters, who are very educated, intelligent, and sooper smart, all seem to get brainlock when it comes to finding suppliers.
How could they be expected to find a US supplier of an exotic and specialized good like a glass bottle?
https://www.roetell.com/top-8-glass-bottle-manufacturers-in-the-usa/#:~:text=O%2DI%20Glass%20Inc.-,Overview,quality%20and%20durable%20glass%20bottles.
Look. We can't expect Mr Boehm to spend 30s seeing if his story even makes the tiniest bit of rational sense. He has outrage to manufacture.
Meanwhile wholesale prices saw their biggest drop in five years.
https://www.dailywire.com/news/u-s-wholesale-prices-see-biggest-drop-in-5-years-flying-in-the-face-of-economists-predictions
Tariffs are making everything so expensive!!!
Even axios is admitting to being wrong. So CNN, axios, Vox, Goldman, etc.
https://www.axios.com/2025/05/15/tariffs-inflation-recession-data?utm_campaign=editorial&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter
Yet Eric, stg, qb, sarc continue to deny actial data in their ignorance.
How many times did we warn them that historical data disagrees with their assertions? Over and over. Telling them over and over how retarded they would look for their predictions. We had the data. They ignored it.
And now with even more data they still continue to scream they are right. Utter madness.
Funny how people who claim to support economic freedom dance a jig when Americans are, through high import taxes, forced to buy from who government thinks is best instead of who they think is best.
You. Want. To. Tax. Them. More. For. Working.
Sit down fucktard.
Ironically your demands would cost the whiskey distiller MORE money than finding a US supplier.
Think global, act local. Except when it comes to glass (or plastic or other) bottles. Then just buy them from China and don't reuse them. But keep using your cloth bag once every two weeks at the grocery store and shouting at the people who use plastic bags (2-3 or more times), that's where you're really saving the planet.
Here in NYC we have to pay a bag tariff if we don't bring our own.
I feel certain that money goes directly to planting trees or something.
Can you get me some R454B? Carrier and Trane can't and they manufacture/sell the A/C and Heat Pumps that it is used in; thanks to John Kennedy and Trump giving the EPA more control and phasing out R410A. Guess I'll just have to buy from the Japs over at Daiken from their plant in Mexico. Oh, wait that will increase the trade deficit and earn me more increases. I guess the beatings will continue..
And I'm not even close to being sooper dooper smart - just a high school educated dumby - so I guess I'm just doubled fucked.
I just had a system installed with r454. It’s available.
So your contractor probably did like I did and bought some prior. You can't in fact buy it now less your desperate and buy 1 jug at a time at $1000. R410A ran me $78 a jug.
thanks to John Kennedy and Trump giving the EPA more control and phasing out R410A
There's about a 60-year gap between those two guys. I suspect Trump's not really the one you should be screaming at here.
And seriously, if you're not buying up supplies now on the assumption you're just going to be paying higher prices on that supply later on, that seems more like a self-inflicted problem.
Aren’t you guys constantly citing FDR and other long-dead Democrats as justification for what Trump is doing?
Again... "the American Innovation and Manufacturing (AIM) Act of 2020 was enacted as section 103 in Division S, Innovation for the Environment, of the Consolidated Appropriations Act, 2021 (H.R. 133 (116th)"
by Rep. Cuellar, Henry [D-TX-28].
And funded by the IRA Act.
"Inflation Reduction Act Provisions for AIM Act Implementation"
https://www.epa.gov/climate-hfcs-reduction/background-hfcs-and-aim-act
So I'm not sure where you get-off blaming Trump.
You do realize that FDR and other long-dead Democrats are the cause of a lot of the issues we have today, right, dip?
Had it not been for FDR, the US probably would have become totally socialist. The rule of law was breaking down in much of rural America and the government was likely to end up owning most of the land because of unpaid property taxes. Things were a bit better in the cities, but the pressure to have the government take over the closed factories by stealing them from their owners would have been irresistible.
LMAO .... The most socialist legislation the nation has ever seen saved us from becoming socialist because socialist banking (Federal Reserve Act) decided why let just 1-single NYC careless bank fail when [WE] can socialistic-ally spread that failure to the whole nation.
Charlie’s takes are incredibly moronic.
Lol.
And, what, do tell, are you, communist charliehall doing on a supposedly libertarian forum?