What if the President Tries to Annex Greenland and Canada?
Trump's new imperialism makes neither economic nor geopolitical sense.

One of the underrated accomplishments of Donald Trump's 2016 presidential run was that he criticized fellow Republicans for their foreign policy mistakes and lived to tell the tale. When Rep. Ron Paul (R–Texas) ran for president in 2008 and 2012, he was booed repeatedly for criticizing the Iraq War and other neoconservative foreign policy positions and he eventually faded from the race.
In 2016, by contrast, Trump repeatedly slammed the George W. Bush administration for the Iraq War, calling it "a big, fat mistake" and declaring that "we should have never been in Iraq." Trump also received some boos but nevertheless won the nomination even as he blasted U.S. foreign policy as too war-prone. By the end of that GOP primary season, even New York Times columnists were famously proclaiming that Trump could be a more dovish president than Hillary Clinton.
When Trump ran for president again in 2024, he articulated similarly dovish themes. He blasted his former United Nations Ambassador Nikki Haley as a "warmonger"; he advocated talking with authoritarian leaders such as Vladimir Putin, Xi Jinping, and Kim Jong Un; and he repeatedly declared that only he could avert World War III. His vice presidential nominee, J.D. Vance, maintained that Trump was "the candidate of peace."
But in the first 100 days of Trump's second term—when not roiling the global economy with tariffs—he has talked an awful lot about absorbing more territory regardless of how the occupants of that territory feel about it. In his second inaugural address, the president pledged that the United States would be a country that "expands our territory." Some of Trump's defenders tried to explain away that clause as a reference to space exploration, but that excuse has become less and less plausible.
In just his first two months in office, Trump has repeatedly and insistently declared his interest in annexing Greenland, absorbing Canada, occupying Gaza, reclaiming the Panama Canal, mining rare earths in Ukraine, and unilaterally using force in Mexico. None of this sounds particularly dovish or helpful in averting World War III.
Some of Trump's more batshit suggestions—like sending the U.S. military to occupy Gaza—might be written off as pipe dreams. His repeated emphasis on territorial expansion, however, cannot be dismissed so easily. The president's previous statements and first-term record help explain his obsession with expanding America's borders.
First, Trump has always possessed a mercantilist, zero-sum view of world politics and the global economy. In that mindset, more territory is better than less.
Second, Trump believes that peace among the great powers can be achieved through spheres of influence. This means conceding parts of the globe to Russia and China—while expanding U.S. control over the Western hemisphere.
Third, changing territorial boundaries transgresses all sorts of international norms—and Trump loves transgressing.
Finally, Trump wants to emulate the leaders he admires. Putin and Xi are also into expanding their territorial control.
But the modern world operates differently from how Trump thinks it works. What might have worked in the 18th century is obsolete in the 21st. In trying to manifest his vision board of an expansionist United States, Trump is undermining key strategic pillars that have bolstered the free world for decades. If Trump achieves any of his desired territorial gains, the United States might be larger. But it will also be poorer and radically more insecure.
Trump's Expansionist Targets
Does Trump actually intend to expand U.S. borders? While he's talked a lot about territorial expansion since winning in 2024, it was not a prominent part of his campaign rhetoric. He bobs and weaves so much in his public statements that sometimes it seems the only certainty is that Trump likes uncertainty. Reports that he proposed swapping Puerto Rico for Greenland were dismissed as either absurd or naive. Can his more recent musings also be discounted as a madman gambit?
Trump has always been a real estate guy. He likes to own land. He did give hints about his interest in territorial expansion and resource extraction prior to his second inauguration. As far back as 2011, he talked about the alleged need to "take the oil" from Iraq, arguing that we would be "reimbursing ourselves" for the trillions of dollars spent on the Iraq War. During his first term, Trump's comfort level with redrawing sovereign borders was higher than that of any other postwar president. His administration recognized Israel's annexation of the Golan Heights. To secure Morocco's participation in the Abraham Accords, his administration recognized that country's annexation of Western Sahara. Except for Israel, the United States remains the only country to recognize both annexations.
Trump's second-term rhetoric and actions about territorial expansion have been consistent and persistent enough to rattle treaty allies. Panamanian officials have been on edge since Trump started loudly complaining that China controls the Canal Zone. (China does not control the Canal Zone.) In March he told Congress, "My administration will be reclaiming the Panama Canal, and we've already started doing it," causing the president of Panama to issue a public denial. In January there were multiple reports of a tense 45-minute phone conversation between Trump and Danish Prime Minister Mette Frederiksen, during which Trump issued a variety of coercive threats to pressure Denmark into ceding Greenland to the United States. One European official briefed on the call told the Financial Times, "Before, it was hard to take it seriously. But I do think it is serious, and potentially very dangerous." In his first joint address to Congress, Trump declared of Greenland, "One way or the other, we're going to get it."
The same dynamic has played out with Canada. Almost immediately after Trump won his second term, he talked about Canada becoming the 51st state and derisively referred to then–Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau as "Governor." Canadian officials including Trudeau at first nervously laughed off Trump's rhetoric.
That changed after Trump was sworn in and started threatening tariffs, following through on his pledge to use "economic force" to pressure Canada into an Anschluss with the United States. White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt has repeatedly suggested that the only way for Canada to avoid tariffs is to become the 51st state. According to The New York Times, Trump told Trudeau in February that he did not accept the 1908 treaty demarcating the border between the two countries and wanted to revise it, including how lakes and rivers between the two nations would be governed.
Secretary of Commerce Howard Lutnick explained to the Canadian finance minister that Trump was interested in exiting the raft of agreements that governed the bilateral relationship. By March, during his last week in office, Trudeau told the Canadian press that Trump is threatening tariffs because "what he wants is to see a total collapse of the Canadian economy, because that'll make it easier to annex us."
Maybe Trump is bluffing when he threatens to annex portions of Panama, Canada, and Denmark. But the leadership of all three longstanding U.S. allies seem to think that he is serious, causing a dramatic downturn of U.S. standing in those three countries. It also jibes with behind-the-scenes reporting of Trump wanting a painting of James Polk—president during the largest expansion of U.S. territory in American history—hanging in the Oval Office. According to The Wall Street Journal, Trump has told visitors that Polk "got a lot of land."
Why, exactly, is Trump so eager to expand America's territory?
Trump the Mercantilist
Back in January 2016, The Brookings Institution's Thomas Wright authored in Politico one of the earliest and most accurate assessments of how Trump thinks about international relations. Wright concluded, contrary to most foreign policy observers at the time, that Trump "has a remarkably coherent and consistent worldview" with three tenets.
First, Trump is deeply skeptical of the liberal international order that embraced globalization and the network of U.S. alliances. He believes trade deficits are a sign of economic weakness.
Second, he believes U.S. allies have cheated the United States out of billions of dollars by running trade surpluses and not paying enough for their own defense.
Third, Trump's sympathies are with foreign strongmen who he believes are tough and firm and get what they want in world politics. The result, wrote Wright, is "a worldview that makes a great leap backward in history, embracing antiquated notions of power that haven't been prevalent since prior to World War II."
The whole point of international trade is that it can generate win-win outcomes where both sides benefit. Trump embodies the contrary doctrine that predated Adam Smith's Wealth of Nations: mercantilism. Mercantilists believed that prosperity requires trade surpluses—selling more across national borders than you buy—which in turn would allegedly augment the power of the state.
Mercantilists of the preindustrial era insisted states that ran trade surpluses would be able to afford the large standing armies that were the norm in a violent 17th century. Josiah Child, a leading 17th century mercantilist, made this point repeatedly: "Foreign trade produces riches, riches power, power preserves our trade and religion."
Trump's 2017 inaugural declaration that "protection will lead to great prosperity and strength" fits with that antiquated vision. Furthermore, if one believes trade is a zero-sum competition and the world an unsafe place, territorial expansion makes sense. The global distribution of territory is undeniably a zero-sum game; the more one acquires, the less territory is available for any competitor. Mercantilists believe in free trade within one's sovereign territory.
After threatening tariffs on Canada this past March, for example, Trump posted on social media that the "only thing that makes sense is for Canada to become our cherished Fifty First State. This would make all Tariffs, and everything else, totally disappear." Expanding territory creates a larger internal market, which both mercantilists and classical economists agree leads to a more productive national economy. Mercantilists like Trump will always prefer territorial expansion to more international trade, believing expansion is the path to power and plenty.
The geopolitical benefits of territorial expansion are tied into Trump's desire to forge a great-power peace with China and Russia. Trump admires other great powers, and to judge from his rhetoric he views Russia and China as the only other states that truly matter in world politics.
This can be seen most clearly in how Trump has attempted to negotiate a ceasefire between Russia and Ukraine. The new administration has been very willing and eager to strong-arm Ukraine into a variety of territorial and tactical concessions. In contrast, Trump has been deferential toward Russia. Recall that during the now-infamous Oval Office meeting with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy, Trump asked a reporter, "You want me to say really terrible things about Putin and then say, 'Hi Vladimir, how we doing on the deal?'" Five minutes later, Trump was saying terrible things about Zelenskyy to his face.
Throughout his first term and the first 100 days of his second term, Trump has demonstrated flexibility with respect to how other great powers handle their periphery. While members of his Cabinet protested China's authoritarian crackdowns during his first term, Trump himself signaled to Xi that he would refrain from criticizing Xi's actions in Hong Kong and Xinjiang in the interest of securing a bilateral trade deal.
Despite imposing tariffs on China, there is persistent speculation that second-term Trump is seeking a grand bargain with Beijing, much as he desired during his first term. Trump also suggested during his first term that Crimea was historically part of Russia. In 2025 Trump has reportedly proposed that the United States recognize Russia's annexation of Crimea and urge the United Nations to do the same in return for an end to the war in Ukraine.
How does this connect to Trump's own territorial ambitions? All these statements are signs that Trump believes in great powers divvying up the world's assets, as Monica Duffy Toft, my colleague at Tufts University's Fletcher School, argued recently: "Today's geopolitical landscape particularly resembles the close of World War II, when U.S. President Franklin Roosevelt, British Prime Minister Winston Churchill, and Soviet leader Joseph Stalin sought to divide Europe into spheres of influence….If Putin, U.S. President Donald Trump, and Chinese President Xi Jinping were to reach an informal consensus that power matters more than ideological differences, they would be echoing Yalta by determining the sovereignty and future of nearby neighbors."
In this scenario, Trump would be cutting a deal in which Russia and China could expand their own spheres of influence. In return, the United States would have free rein over the Western Hemisphere. This would empower Trump to use America's military and economic power to redraw the map, expanding into Greenland, the Panama Canal Zone, and, oh yes, Canada.
These actions would violate a welter of international treaties to which the United States is a signatory. For Trump, however, such legal impunity would be a bonus rather than a hindrance. His political superpower has always been to violate norms and laws and then emerge unscathed. If redrawing global borders helps to foster some kind of peaceful great power concert, Trump could plausibly argue that his outside-the-box thinking helped to reduce global tensions while expanding America's size.
Putin's forcible acquisition of Crimea in 2014 caused his poll numbers in Russia to skyrocket despite the economic deprivations caused by the ensuing war. Nationalism plays well, and redrawing the map is a world-historical act that burnishes a leader's historical legacy. This lesson has not been lost on Trump. According to a Wall Street Journal report: "Trump remains serious about growing the country during his time in the White House. He views it as a part of his legacy, five people who have spoken to him say." If Trump could succeed in expanding U.S. territory, perhaps current citizens and future historians will look kindly upon him as well.
Perhaps the combined efforts of China, Russia, and the United States can shift norms about territorial borders back to the Age of Empires. But the idea any of this will benefit the United States is nuts.
Annexation Talk Leads to Resistance
In 1917 the United States purchased the U.S. Virgin Islands from Denmark for $25 million—the most expensive purchase of territory per square mile in American history. It has been more than a century since the United States annexed any territory in the Western Hemisphere. Indeed, the overarching global trend since the end of World War I has been for states to shed territory rather than add it. When the U.S. acquired the Virgin Islands, fewer than 60 sovereign countries existed. More than a century later, the disintegration of empires and subsequent waves of decolonization have pushed that number close to 200.
The fundamental driver for this increase is the secular surge in nationalism. Countries and people that have any history of independence or autonomy usually do not like to relinquish it, regardless of the material consequences. It is therefore not surprising that Trump's rhetoric about buying Greenland and absorbing Canada have not gone over well with the local populations.
In mid-March Greenland held elections—and Qulleq, the most pro-American party of the bunch, failed to garner enough votes for a seat in the parliament. All the major parties in Greenland categorically rejected annexation by the United States. When Vance visited Greenland in late March, his initial plan to speak to supportive locals was scrubbed—because there were no local supporters. One could argue the U.S. military could easily control the island if push came to shove. But unless Trump was prepared to use force against the 56,000 native residents, such an effort would prove extremely messy.
A similar dynamic has played out in Canada. Prior to Trump's chatter about Canada becoming the 51st state, Conservative Party leader Pierre Poilievre was trouncing the ruling Liberal Party in the polls. It looked like the 2025 Canadian elections would be a familiar echo of the 2024 U.S. election. But as Trump kept insisting that Canada join the United States, the vibe shifted. Suddenly Canadians were booing "The Star-Spangled Banner" at sporting events, enlisting in the military at higher rates, and changing their mind about the upcoming election.
Poilievre had categorically rejected the idea of joining the United States but his stylistic similarities to Trump hurt his standing. By late March, the Liberals surged ahead in national polls for the first time in three years ahead of the April 28 election.
Again, the United States likely has the military might to shift the border. Whether Trump is prepared to invest in the necessary coercive apparatus to crack down on restive Canadians is another matter.
Even if Trump doesn't care that residents of potential annexed areas aren't happy with the idea, neither the economic nor the security logic for expanded territorial control makes sense. Trump clearly believes that Russia is a great power, but the only dimension on which that is true is in its possession of nuclear weapons. Even though Russia is far and away the largest country in terms of geographic size, its share of global economic output peaked at 3 percent during this century and has been on the decline for years.
Similarly, why would the United States need to own Greenland? The island is already extremely open to foreign direct investment, so it's not like sovereign control is an economic necessity. The U.S. already has a large military base there, and—prior to the president's annexation threats—Denmark had signaled a willingness to allow an even greater U.S. military presence. Beyond the perceived prestige of expanding U.S. territory, the difference for real U.S. goals between Greenland being an independent republic, a protectorate of Denmark, or a part of the United States is negligible.
Trump administration officials claim they need Greenland to ward off encroachment by Russia and China. But this just highlights another problem with Trump's logic: the hard limits of a sphere-of-influence approach to the world.
Neither Europe nor the Middle East nor the entire continent of Africa have a "natural" hegemon. The reason Russia is interested in Greenland is that Moscow believes the Arctic is part of its sphere of influence; China similarly likes to talk about the Arctic as part of its Polar Silk Road. In those regions one can envision Trump's great powers gamesmanship leading not toward global stability between three regional hegemons, but rather to a new "Great Game" with all of the geopolitical tensions that come with it.
Furthermore, while it is easy to suggest that the United States can trade American hegemony in the Western Hemisphere for Chinese hegemony in the Pacific Rim, quite a few other countries would have a problem with that entente. Longstanding U.S. allies such as Japan and South Korea will resist being viewed as a part of China's sphere of influence; so will newer partners, such as India. Similarly, a lot of Latin American countries will not want to abandon their trading relationship with China. At present, China is South America's top trading partner and the second-largest trading partner for all of Latin America. China has signed trade agreements with Chile, Costa Rica, Ecuador, Nicaragua, and Peru; 22 countries in the hemisphere are part of the Belt and Road Initiative. One can debate the geopolitical merits of cozying up to China, but a protectionist Trump administration is not going to persuade these countries to abandon the Chinese market willingly.
At any rate, trading the current set of U.S. allies for an expanded United States is a horrible deal. European and Pacific Rim allies are technologically sophisticated economies providing an important source of America's foreign direct investment. The democratic regimes populating these regions have also proven to be extremely stable and durable. Sacrificing them to a sphere-of-influence approach is like trading Luka Dončić for Anthony Davis.
Trump might think expanding America's territory will be the ultimate political win. But annexing territory does not have the same benefits in the 21st century that it did in the 18th. Stockpiling some rare earths might make sense as a security precaution, but equating control of natural resources with power or plenty misreads an awful lot of recent economic history. Based on the reactions to his recent rhetoric, Trump will not be able to rewrite U.S. borders without the use of force. Expending blood and treasure to acquire territory that is already under the control of loyal allies seems like too high a price to pay.
Just before World War I, Norman Angell explained in The Great Illusion that the gains from trade far outweigh the gains of plunder. The horrific costs of the Great War proved a very costly confirmation of Angell's argument. With Trump's lust for expanding America's borders becoming readily apparent, we risk having to relearn this lesson the hard way.
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Dear God. The TDS is approaching epic proportions.
1. Trump isn't going to annex anything.
2. If he did, there's nothing they could do about it.
3. This article might have been topical a month ago.
The retard Daniel is a professor of international law at arrow making university.
The clearly means he doesn't realize Albert provides 80% of the US energy imports.
He also doesn't understand how Greenland has an effect on travel, and resources.
As for Panama the US should never have given it up. He got Panama to divest from the ccp
"He also doesn't understand how Greenland has an effect on travel, and resources."
When did you last visit or fly over Greenland, and what do you own that was made or mined there?
It is amazing how little you know.
https://www.reuters.com/markets/commodities/greenlands-rich-largely-untapped-mineral-resources-2025-01-13/
https://www.belfercenter.org/research-analysis/explainer-geopolitical-significance-greenland
There is a reason why acquiring greenland has been discussed for near a century dumdum.
At the height of the Cold War, the Institute for Foreign Policy Analysis published a volume with the self explanatory title 'Strategic Metals in Perspective', which you ought to read it as touches on Greenland's brief role as the West's only source of cryolite, then vital in aluminum electrolysis.
They stopped mining it decades ago because it's as obsolete as Trump's conception of tariff economics and mining finance.
Jesse's failure to read what he links is always good for a laugh-
here's the money quote from the Belfer study:
"Serious doubts around the economic feasibility of mineral resource extraction persist due to Greenland’s harsh environment, remoteness, lack of infrastructure, and high operating costs.
As of 2023, Greenland had just two active mines, with a handful of other projects in development. "
Canada has over 200.
You are a fucking ignoramus. Stuff your fake web site up your ass, and please fuck off and die, shit bag.
Hey fag, it’s time for you to fuck off.
Is this really the best you can do? So the minerals exist, which you were ignorant about. Lol.
8 hours to stew on your ignorance and that was your best retort? Lol.
God damn.
Guess who wrote the IFPA Strategic Metals book, sucker.
I dunno fag, who?
Nobody denies the minerals exist, but only a complete shit for brains would spent ten dollars to extract minerals they could only sell for five. This is exactly why the US is littered with idled oil wells, because rational people don't spend $70 to pump a barrel of oil that's selling for $60.
Greenland's mineral resources remain untapped for a simple reason even an idiot like you should understand: they're buried under massive ice sheets. Until and unless they become much more valuable, they're going to stay right where they are for the same reason the US is littered with idled oil wells, namely only a complete fucking idiot spends ten dollars to make something he can only sell for five.
2. If he did, there's nothing they could do about it.
It would be physically impossible to invade all of Canada, for the same reason all those Red Dawn Russkies invading America scenarios were silly. Even without any Canadian resistance it's just too big and spread out. It'd be physically like invading and holding the entirety of America plus some, but with shittier weather and worse mosquitoes. It's hard enough for the Canadian government to do.
Plus it would be ridiculously unpopular amongst everyone but the neocons.
Plus all Trump has to do is be really nice to Western Canadians who have reached their limit with Eastern Canadians thanks to last weeks elections and have never before in history been closer to bailing.
Maybe the CIA could orchestrate one of them separatist movements in Alberta and Saskatchewan, and move in after the voting. Not sure about BC.
I've been critical of Canada's euthanasia, but after the boomers, the selfish generation, all voted Carney... fuck it.
Almost everyone here over sixty thinks that Mr. Carney is just wonderful, and almost everyone under forty-five thinks we just elected the devil.
I don't think this kind of generation gap existed even in the sixties.
That's the funny thing about Boomers. When they were young the older generations hated them, and now that they're old the younger generations hate them. Looking at the great stagnation that has occurred in the West between the eighties and 2010's its easy to identify the source.
“ Looking at the great stagnation that has occurred in the West between the eighties and 2010's”
The great stagnation that left us as the only superpower in the 90s and the undisputed leader in the world economy today? Exactly what do you think stagnated?
Debt. Welfare. Rising personal debt. Inflation.
None of this exists according to many on the left.
There is little difference between the US and other countries except having the reserve currency to help outflow planned inflation to other countries.
I am an ardent opponent of deficit spending, but it hasn’t caused any stagnation.
Nor has welfare, the ranks of which, as percentage of the population, have decreased since the 80s.
Personal debt includes things like a mortgage (which is good) as well as credit card debt. Are you talking about what’s considered good debt or bad debt? Or do you even know? It also hasn’t stagnated the country, since our GDP continues to grow.
Inflation is constant. Sometimes it’s higher, sometimes it’s lower, but it hasn’t caused any stagnation since the 70s.
Even the worst economic disaster of my lifetime, the Great Recession, was a temporary problem caused by supply-side economic policies that we recovered from before the end of Obama’s first term because we are a vibrant and successful country.
I’m not sure why you think those things have caused “stagnation”, because none of them (even the economic crisis Bush caused) did more than briefly slow us down before we roared back.
I don’t know why you are so obsessed with pretending America is somehow in decline. About the inly thing you listed that could derail the country is the deficit (not the national debt, which is the result of deficit spending).
“ There is little difference between the US and other countries except having the reserve currency to help outflow planned inflation to other countries”
That is about the dumbest thing you’ve ever written, and you specialize in posting ignorant and stupid things.
The great stagnation that left us as the only superpower in the 90s and the undisputed leader in the world economy today? Exactly what do you think stagnated?
Are you being retarded on purpose, you stupid fucker?
Not one iota of the Soviet Union’s collapse can be credited to the Boomers, who only started dabbling in geopolitics in the 1980s. Every ounce of that collapse was the work of the Greatest Generation and the Silent Generation—period.
The same goes for technological progress, which has largely stagnated since the 1980s, reduced to endless iterations and refinements instead of real breakthroughs.
And the same again with economic progress. Every generation after the Boomers has been left poorer, less secure, and watching the rest of the world catch up or pull ahead. Only a deceitful, arrogant piece of garbage would pretend that America’s overall economic position is stronger today than it was in the 1950s, ’60s, or ’70s.
Well the Greatest gave us the New Deal and the Great Society and WW2, Korea and Viet Nam among others and the War On Drugs. The Silents dragged us into Europe's war WW1, imposed prohibition and endless military adventures. If you want to back further you might notice the civil war, but we're not allowed to go there. Considering the fact that real live humans actually enter the world every day and not once every 20 years, all with disparate influences and ambitions I would submit that claiming that any "generation" can be identified is just stupid media bullshit. A new generation is born every day.
It’s the same as racism.
“ Every ounce of that collapse was the work of the Greatest Generation and the Silent Generation—period.”
They’re the same thing, genius.
No one said anything about who did what. You said, “Looking at the great stagnation that has occurred in the West between the eighties and 2010's…”. I merely pointed out that America has only gotten stronger, not regressed or stagnated, since the 1980s. We are objectively doing better today than we were in the 1980s. We are not stagnating, as you claim.
“ The same goes for technological progress, which has largely stagnated since the 1980s, reduced to endless iterations and refinements instead of real breakthroughs.”
Yes, everyone says that the last 50 years has been completely devoid of technological breakthroughs.
Are you really that dumb? Hell, just the internet and personal computers alone were radical advances. And that’s ignoring wireless technology and the smart phones they enable. Or the advances in AI. None of that was even conceived of in 1980 except for in science fiction and in the minds of a few college dropouts. Technology has accelerated since 1989, not stagnated.
“ Every generation after the Boomers has been left poorer, less secure, and watching the rest of the world catch up or pull ahead.”
Within the US the Boomers have hoarded the material and regulatory wealth for themselves, making it harder for the generations after them to thrive. And yet we have.
If you want to have a talk about how the Boomers have hamstrung future generations and controlled policy to deliver the benefits of America’s prosperity to themselves at the expense of younger generations, you won’t get any argument from me. But we have continued to be the foremost economy in the world despite the hobbles that the Boomers put on us. The world hasn’t caught up or pulled ahead. China manipulate its currency and used its autocratic powers to push their economy further, faster than it would have on its own. But you can only kick the can down the road for so long, which is why their housing crash and other economic outcomes of their manipulation of their economy are now occupying more and more of their attention and money. And other countries have gotten better, but none are anywhere near the US. It’s not even close.
“ Only a deceitful, arrogant piece of garbage would pretend that America’s overall economic position is stronger today than it was in the 1950s, ’60s, or ’70s.”
We are in a better position than at any point since the 80s, and we are absolutely dominant compared to where we were back in the 50s, 60s, and 70s. Remember the interest rates and stagflation of the 70s? That’s your definition of a stronger overall economic position? You’re nuts.
The proliferation of leftists like you caused great stagnation. Because of you and your fellow travelers, we haven’t built any oil refineries, nuke plants, and have delayed/restricted oil drilling. All while wasting billions of taxpayer money on wind and solar. You strangle our economy with regulations on everything and seek to confiscate every last penny you can.
Our successes are in spite of you, not because of you. You are the enemy within.
Canada needs reasonable assault moose control
Back when I was driving a truck I was loading next to a Canadian driver who had a big fancy after market front bumper attachment on his truck. Down here we call them cow catchers so I said "that's a hell of a cow catcher you got there". He said "naw it's a moose catcher. I hit three of em and the company finally got tired of fixing it".
Please don't encourage them by discussing this seriously.
Let me suggest a territorial swap. The US takes western Canada (again, not sure about BC--left coast Canada could perhaps join left coast US in some la-la weed-powered utopia), Canada gets New England. Sorry, New Hampshire.
And sentence sarc to Canadian club swill?
I hear Martha's Vineyard is overrun with illegals so that would save us the expense of deporting them.
Or….. and work with me here……. both countries join forces and get rid of the left entirely and keep everything.
1. It's not physically impossible.
2. You don't need to invade the whole country - only where the people are.
That's moronic. 85% of the Canadian population and industry are within 100 miles of the US border. You don't have to invade Yellowknife.
Round up the left in both countries and out them in a reservation up in the tundra. Heavily mine the perimeter and let nature take its course.
"Secretary of Commerce Howard Lutnick explained to the Canadian finance minister that Trump was interested in exiting the raft of agreements that governed the bilateral relationship. By March, during his last week in office, Trudeau told the Canadian press that Trump is threatening tariffs because 'what he wants is to see a total collapse of the Canadian economy, because that'll make it easier to annex us.' "
Someone has totally ignored the NAFTA->USMCA vector in this discussion. Bottom line: Canada deindustrialized for the climate, then used NAFTA to funnel Chinese goods into the US at a profit and with no tariff. Trump put a stop to this in 2016-20. The USMCA is due to renegotiate in 2025-26, and it's in the interest of the US to negotiate separately with Mexico and Canada. Canada is so poor that they cannot survive without major concessions from the US. Hence, US pressure. Pull your own weight, Canada! Do some ffing research, Drezner!
Well they can't report on:
Economy
Jobs reporr
China already backing down on tariffs (fentanyl and exemptions)
Inferior Courts be overturned at appelate
Wef authoritarianism in Germany
So they turn to what ifs.
And ALWAYS liberal-tarianism.
No shit. "What if" "What if China releases a virus that kills only the muslims"? "What if an asteroid hits Earth tomorrow"? " What if the moon really is made of cheese"? "What if Santa Claus is just the winter gig for Bigfoot"?
What kind of unhinged garbage is this?
Welcome to "reasoning" in the 2020s.
Also, TDS and related psycho-ailments have broken many, many people.
Did I miss their articles about Biden stumbling into a shooting war with Russia?
That war has been great for America—NATO expanded and we are energy dominant.
It's been great for George Soros, not the US.
https://x.com/DataRepublican/status/1918329845991510370
NATO needs to end, or we need to leave it.
Soros Derangement Syndrome.
Lol. You guys are all pathetic. What is wrong in the post? It has citations dumdum.
If you're going to be deranged, Soros Derangement Syndrome is the one most grounded in reality. Soros has certainly done a fuckton of truly evil shit, Shrike, as the citations in ITL's post evince.
I link evidence, and even the book Soros wrote, and that's "derangement syndrome"? How fucked in the head are you, charliehall?
Not at all. Soros is the favorite of anti-Semitic right wingers to weaponize, even though he is the kind of vulture capitalist that Trumpies really ought to love. He actually brought down a Central Bank, something that most folks here don't think should exist!
Sadly that affliction started when young George was removing the gold fillings from Jews on orders from Adolf. But it's okay because he used the profits to inflict his version of social justice on the UK when he crashed the pound and walked away with a cool billion. But under all of that pure evil I hear he's a really sweet guy.
Soros and his pups should all have been taken out by MI6 decades ago.
I never imagined that Sweden and Finland would ever join NATO but they did. Spectacular success for the US, spectacular defeat for Putin. And Biden pulled it off.
And yes, the US is producing more crude oil and more natural gas than any country has ever produced in history. And it happened under Biden. Deranged Trump supporters deny this but it is fact.
So this is the second time you've tried to pull this bullshit.
Where did the growth come from? Private or public? Did courts have to step in to conti ue allowing leases signed by trump?
Is this what they teach fake Harvard grads now? Ignorance and lying?
Who's paying Jesse to clickbait that fake Harvard Bbelfer website?
Don’t you have a fake vvebsite to push?
Wut?
"It is amazing how little you know.
https://www.belfercenter.org/research-analysis/explainer-geopolitical-significance-greenland"
It's astonishing how often trolls cite books they've never read.
Ok fag, cool story.
Everything he said is a proven fact. You’re just a lying Marxist propagandist.
"And Biden pulled it off."
How? By having Boris Johnson deliberately fuck up the peace agreement? By having the CIA help Ukrainian nationalist militias like the Azov Brigades attack ethnic Russians? By promising Zelenskyy NATO membership?
Real genius there, Shrike, you warmongering Nazi.
It takes a special kind of anti-Semite to call a Jew a Nazi.
So your claim is that you’re Jewish? Ok, if that’s true, then you must be from the Soros faction of Judaism. Where you cheer on Hamas.
We were energy-dominant in 2016-20. GFY.
Pretty sure Liz posted links to The Bulwark that covered that.
Just when you think Reason can't get any more retarded...
They've almost achieved full sarc.
I laughed out loud at this.
Never go full Sarc.
Check it out. Elon Musk, look retarded, act retarded, not retarded. Counted toothpicks, launched rockets. Autistic, sure. Not retarded.
You know Kamala Harris? Slow, yes. Retarded, maybe. Pantsuits on her legs. But she charmed the pants off Willie Brown and won a blowjob competition. That ain't retarded. She was a goddamn Border Czar. You know any retarded Border Czars?
You went full sarc, man. Never go full sarc. You don't buy that? Ask Joe Biden. Remember? Went full sarc, went home empty-handed.
Remember what that guy Einstein told us.
All motion is relative?
You win.
Which came first? Autism or CDS?
Newton said it over three hundred years earlier.
Pretty sure you revere Newsom much more than Newton.
He didn't kill himself?
Y'know, if you want to be Reason, then be Reason.
If you want to be Anti-Trump, then just at least be honest about it. Change the name.
(Also, tell me you work for China, without telling me you work for China.)
Also, because I'm a glutton for watching you NPC's squirm, tell me what exactly you object to about ANY of this:
In just his first two months in office, Trump has repeatedly and insistently declared his interest in annexing Greenland, absorbing Canada, occupying Gaza, reclaiming the Panama Canal, mining rare earths in Ukraine, and unilaterally using force in Mexico.
Here, you can copy/paste:
I object to annexing Greenland because...
I object to absorbing Canada because...
I object to occupying Gaza because...
I object to reclaiming the Panama Canal because...
I object to mining rare earths in Ukraine because...
I object to unilaterally using force in Mexico because...
You theater kids always whine about this stuff, but you never explain your gripe. It's like you just want to be anti-Trump, but you don't know why other than you're following a narrative.
I, for one, can think of a very good reason for ALL of those things (and they might not even be the same reasons Trump has for them!). Can you tell me any good reasons why they're bad ideas?
I doubt it. But, I'll wait.
"You theater kids always whine about this stuff, but you never explain your gripe. It's like you just want to be anti-Trump, but you don't know why other than you're following a narrative."
Group think, annoying daddy, and hoping to get laid.
“ Here, you can copy/paste:
I object to annexing Greenland because...
I object to absorbing Canada because...
I object to occupying Gaza because...
I object to reclaiming the Panama Canal because...
I object to mining rare earths in Ukraine because...
I object to unilaterally using force in Mexico because...”
It’s all the same reason. We would have to use force to achieve any of those and we get the same things already through trade. We would gain nothing but some land.
Doing something that costs money for no appreciable gain is just stupid.
When was it discussed to use force?
Do you have a citation?
If he doesn't lie about it then he can't get anyone upset.
Or masturbate to his "fascist" fantasies.
and we get the same things already through trade.
It's like you didn't even read it.
I object to Nelson posting retarded shit here.
Seconded. Motion passed.
I object to annexing Canada because we would import a bunch of people who voted to put Trudeau and Carney in office. These people would vote for the Obama, Harris, Biden types.
...details. Trump(ers) have obviously not thought this through. We should actually enslave Canada and not give them voting rights.
You’re too stupid to know when you’re being trolled.
Silly faggot.
It would be great for the US because the Republican Party would become a permanent minority.
What would be great for the US is if you democrats/marxists were wiped out.
Canada would look very different under our system.
It would still be full of retarded Canadians. Maybe just annex Manitoba, Saskatchewan, and Alberta? You know, the provinces with lots of resources, few people, and scarcely any liberals. BC is nice, but Vancouver is super lib and under Chinese influence. Lots of hot Asian girls, though. Decisions,
We could give them the Puget Sound region as a trade.
What if Reason writers lost all sense of proportion, and just started writing articles way too long that make even the comments uninteresting?
Then where would their 'threat' to cut off old readers that don't subscribe be?
What if the moon was made of cheese?
That would raise so many more questions. Are there giant space cows? Why are there no cheese deposits on earth?
Shit IS true that in deep geological time, there were no cheese deposits deposited on earth. However, snot to get TOO deep on ya now, butt deep geological time has relatively recently given way to the Anthropocene, which is now (immediately, literally and shitterally right now) being replaced by the Trump-Tramp-obb-slob-o-obscene, which is depositing obscenely globby and cheesy cheese all over us all, globally! You were worried about Globo-Homos? Meet The Big Globo-Cheeso!!!
Trump wants to emulate the leaders he admires. Putin and Xi are also into expanding their territorial control.
Three peas in a pod.
Weird how a Dick Cheney style neocon like you is acting like you're against that.
Weird how a Marxist Moose-Mammary Necrophiliac, and BUTT-TONS of sore-in-the-cunt cuntsorevaturds alike, will, in shitty unity, rush to ridicule all of the sensible people for BEING AFRAID OF STUPID AND EVIL THINGS THAT DONALD THE EGOMANIAC MAKES NOISES ABOUT WANTING TO DO!!!!
Butt NONE of them will criticize Dear Orange Leader for making the stupid and evil noises to begin with!!! WHY is that?!?!?
Take your meds.
Find Your PervFected Mind! I bet that if Ye looked REALLY hard, inwardly, You COULD actually FIND Your Mind!!!
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Snowflake.
Youre getting lazy.
Stop samefagging your own posts, Shrike, and quit sockpuppeting too.
He’s more for dick puppeting. But he prefers an audience of juvenile boys who have already consumed juice boxes that make them sleepy.
Annexing Greenland and absorbing Canada doesn’t necessarily require force, so no not the same as Putin and Xi.
Twat do You PervFectly mean...
'A) THREATS of force aren't force shitself, so they are OK? or...
'B) The peoples of Canada and Greenland are inwardly CLAMORING LOUDLY to be taken over and enslaved by the USA; they just don't know shit yet?
Neither Europe nor the Middle East nor the entire continent of Africa have a "natural" hegemon.
Africa is however united in it's terribleness, and has the largest growing population. The ME does have a hegemon, it's called Islam. You might reject that because money is your idol, but it very much animates their decisions.
This entire analysis refuses to consider that power and unity exists outside of "self-interest".
His idol is global marxism
I remember when Trump said Africa was a shithole and the hysteria the left had over that. Those of us that have traveled Africa just looked at each other and nodded our heads because large swaths are shitholes. Why do you think they want to get the fuck out and go to Europe or America?
Why are Africans so stubbornly backward? Does anyone research this?
You are not allowed to ask that question let alone research it. Racist.
"It's all so tiring."
I would think African academics themselves would want to look at this.
Would they find disparate impact with no white people within 500 miles? The answer is yes.
I remember Conan pretending that Haiti was not a shithole. That was fun.
...and go to Europe or America?
Unfortunately, our experience has been that they bring their Shitholism with them, rather than escape it.
I have been to three countries in Africa. Zimbabwe is a failed state. The Republic of South Africa is headed in that direction. Botswana, OTOH, is doing rather well. Diamonds.
Poor sullum, sarc, Jeff, qb, Molly, etc.
Appeals court finally does what Roberts should have done months ago.
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1918726388271423522.html
4/ Court of Appeals decision is based on fundamental issue of "jurisdiction." This conclusion should have wide-spread ramifications because many of challenges to Trump Administration are about employment decisions which CONGRESS said are NOT for district courts to decide.
5/ The Court of Appeals decision is also significant because it addresses the "wholesale" "dismantling" argument being presented in several cases (such as USAID cases). The Administrative Procedures Act is NOT for such claims either & Congress did not waive such immunity!
6/ Additionally, Court of Appeals held that district court lacked jurisdiction to restore grants because Congress gave that authority to Court of Claims:
7/ Court of Appeals also notes how SCOTUS decision compels that result...which it DOES and yet district court ignored SCOTUS.
10/ Court of Appeals again highlights that with no bond the harm to government is irreparable. Also noted that Voice of America isn't being shuttered.
11/ Court of Appeals also notes Judiciary Branch must follow the law too!
12/ In sum, this opinion is a HUGE win for Trump because it establishes 3 key principles that apply to many of the other cases being brought against Trump Administration: a) no jurisdiction over firings; b) no jurisdiction over grant terminations;
13/ c) you can't get around Congress limiting district court jurisdiction by creative pleading of claims under other theories; d) with no bond harm to government will outweigh other harm; e) public has interest in Article III obey Article I.
This was the right decision. This is one of Trump’s policies that is libertarian and I agree with.
Number 11 really infuriates you as even yesterday you were demanding due process and rule of law while defending the inferior Courts for ignoring both.
So fuck off Mike.
This is one od your primary characteristics. Continue to tout liberal narratives until proven wrong then claim you agree with the very argument you spent weeks being against.
Just yesterday you defended inferior Courts ignoring the INA. Such a shit weasel.
Your world is so black and white that it is meaningless. You don't dare admit Trump is an economic ignoramus because that would admit he is fallible. If anyone ever says anything against Trump, that marks them as 100% anti-Trump forever.
So fuck off Jesse.
Yep trump sucks on the economy.
How's inflation, the jobs report, investment in America and new bilateral trade negotiations going?
Poor qb.
https://justthenews.com/government/white-house/india-may-be-dam-gives-way-cascading-series-trade-deals
Wondering if he thinks the old threads on DOGE and layoffs regarding these TROs got deleted....
Reason: But but but... TARIFFS!!!!!!!!!!!!
JDS is strong in this one.
Uh oh...I think I broke Jesse.
No grasshopper, you did not.
This is an awful decision that effectivly makes Trumps violation of the Constitution and federal law unreviewable. The logic is also deeply flawed. The destruction of a agency is not an "employment dispute". The dissent got it right.
Trump didn't violate the constitution. Time to find a new lie to rile up the oldsters.
Refusing to administer the spending that Congress authorized is unconstitutional.
HaHaHa
You would look less sarcted if you read the ruling as they correctly point out what is happening. Shocking the D.C. circuit actually did so.
"Refusing to administer the spending that Congress authorized is unconstitutional."
You write an awful lot of retarded shit, Tony, but you excelled yourself today.
Do you want to point out for all of us the part of the constitution that says if congress permits the president to spend money, then he has to?
"he shall take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed"
"he shall take Care that the Law(yers) be
faithfullyexecuted"Fixed it.
We've always known that was the solution but SCOTUS decided it was unconstitutional. Or something.
Where in your retarded mind do you read spend every penny in that statement?
In Molly’s idiotic view, even if the contractor says “this toilet only costs $199.” the executive branch is forced to go “sorry, Congress said I have to pay $1999 for that toilet.”.
All while she simultaneously believes only paying the $199 isn’t taking “care to faithfully execute the law” AND that the executive branch HAS to execute plainly unconstitutional laws.
It’s really kind of amazing.
It doesn't even make sense from first impression because Congress also tells the executive to find waste fraud and abuse.
"he shall take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed"
Spending allocations aren't laws, you purposeful retard. You've become dumber than Shrike, Tony.
Point to the clause within the Constitution that says this, Molly. Cite it, dipshit.
Poor Molly and qb.
How dare the appeals court realize judges also have to follow laws and regulations as written, not make shit up on the fly.
You'll get over it.
And if not, try the "open borders" along the Canadian frontier. Or Mexico.
Why do MAGAs demand the courts maintain strict adherence to past case law but don't care what laws Trump breaks?
Again another evidence and logic free argument. You're hitting them out of the park today Molly.
What laws did he break? Be specific.
WHAT LAWS DID HE BREAK, TONY?
And just to head off your previous stupidity, budget allocations aren't laws. Just because you've budgeted for rent boys and MDMA, doesn't mean you're breaking the law by keeping it in the bank.
As Germany bans opposing parties, the entire investigation was done by the current ruling party, in secret, and labeled classified.
Andy Ngo
@MrAndyNgo
The intelligence agency (Verfassungsschultz) that did the investigation works under the supervision of Nancy Faeser, the interior minister who is a member of the left-wing party (Social Democrats) that vehemently opposes and seeks to ban the AfD.
Who did it better? The National Socialist German Workers' Party or the German Social Democrats?
1. Smear opposing political parties with unfair and untrue labels
2. Call their policies "extreme" without ever designating which ones or explaining why.
3. Ban them for having those purported "extreme" policies and for being what you smeared them as.
The idea that a classically liberal party headed by a lesbian married to a Sri Lankan woman is somehow the next incarnation of the Nazis is ridiculous, and using actual Nazi tactics to ban them is beyond egregious.
The Democrats attempts to ban/imprison/kill Trump laid the groundwork for this explosion of fascist tactics amongst the western global elite.
"Who did it better? The National Socialist German Workers' Party or the German Social Democrats?"
Well, the NAZIs were snappy dressers.
They claim being against importing millions of middle eastern igrants while watching a rise in violent crimes and rapes means the AfD is talking about racial purity. It is an insane accusation.
Afd "the Muslims are comming in and killing the jews we need to stop that"
German left "your nazis"
The end state of liberal democracies.
This exemplifies why the paradox of intolerance is always failed by those who call themselves "liberal". They truly believe that the intolerant cannot be tolerated.
Germany has first hand experience in the consequences of allowing extremist parties to be recognized. They also see what is happening in the US and want to prevent that from happening there.
As opposed to the paradisical conditions in countries where parties can't exist without government permission?
Not enough women being raped by migrants?
So they are neither liberal, nor democratic?
Thank you for affirming that modern Eurotrash "democracies" are scams.
And we are seeing what happens now as your preferred party goes after other political parties. You're just too dumb to realize it.
Annex? Are you off your gourd?
Canada obviously doesn't want to join, because they've gone full retard up there, but that's fine, I'm not sure we want them. Greenland, on the other hand, might CHOOSE to split from Denmark, and the Danes are silly enough to let them. In which case, if THEY decided they WANTED to apply to join the USA, we should let them. They would be a very small state, population-wise, so maybe we give them a try-out period like we've given Puerto Rico for the past 130 years or so.
To be fair the Conservatives got a bigger share of the vote this time and locked the Liberals out of the West.
The Liberals won because traditional Bloc Quebecois and NDP voters went Liberal instead in the East. 100% because of Trump's rhetoric.
Sorry about that.
Your right in this. There is a great deal of nuance in the recent election in Canada. All parties on the left lost votes except the liberals. It wasn't just "Trump ruined the election". I'd rather have the President openly make comments on another countries election than the undercover CIA/State Dept meddling the Dems were doing all over the planet including in Ukraine.
I'm kinda surprised that anyone in Canada took his bloviating seriously - he was just trolling. But is their reaction on Trump or on them? Do what's best for your country and ignore the haters.
Its the sa.e thing happening here a d happened in Australia. Corporate media continued to claim Trump is against their retirement and social benefits as boomers enter retirement. Despite Trump never saying that.
Look at the protests here. Primarily boomers. The selfish generation only looks out for themselves.
It's all boomers who still watch (way too much) legacy media / network news and read their AARP newsletters like it's the Bible:
https://notthebee.com/article/poll-shows-that-every-age-group-has-a-positive-approval-rating-for-trump-except-voters-70-and-older
I don't think history will look kindly on the Democrat Party terrifying senior citizens into protesting like this.
So many of the people at the protest in Asheville NC are elderly people who believe Trump and Elon are stealing their Social Security.
It's hard to watch...
https://x.com/matt_vanswol/status/1918708547153518938
I'm not convinced that boomers are anti Trump in the majority. I'm 68, my wife is 73, had dinner with old friends last night both of whom are 75. None of us are anti Trump. Quite the contrary. Anecdotally most of the boomers I know are Trump supporters. The Democrats have been pulling the SS scare thing since FDR and it's just tiresome but apparently effective. Claiming that there is some kind of collective Boomer community marching in lockstep is no different than making that claim about Hispanics or Asians or blacks or gays or anyone else. The concept is not libertarian.
This
We're looking at trends of the national cohort. Not on an individual or even regional basis.
Most of the boomers I know voted for Trump. Maybe it's income related. The affluent suburb next door,84% white, had plenty of signs for Kamala. One had huge Biden/Harris posters all over the house and lawn. A week later Biden was kicked out. They took down all the signs and put up a small Harris/Walz sign. Thanks to gerrymandering they are represented by a Mexican communist from Chicago.
Doesn't narrow it down much for the Mexican communist from Chicago.
Affluent suburb usually means North Shore or west outside Cook County.
Delia Ramriez? Her district bizarrely includes a wide swath of DuPage County.
Chuy Garcia (he's an avowed communist)? His district includes affluent Oak Brook, Hinsdale, and half of Elmhurst.
I've got Lauren Fucking Underwood from Naper-fucking-ville.
Hey it's Illinois. You'll be represented by a communist no matter where you are.
And that includes some of the Republicans.
I am not surprised.
The 70+ cohort is, well old. Old people are at least flirting with dementia of some kind. And old people tend to fear just about everything. Remember when your grandma told you not to fly on planes?
The 70+ cohort has the highest percentage of Americans on the dole. They can argue that they earned it, or that they are mystically entitled. But they react reflexively to any perceived threats to those monthly checks.
The 70+ cohort (OK, really the 80+ cohort) came of age in the 1960s, perhaps the biggest cultural revolution in US history, and the second biggest expansion of social welfare programs. Certainly not every Boomer was a hippie, but, for simplistic media-driven models, hippies are the type boomer.
It goes back to the history of the Revolution and how Canada was created in the aftermath. The Laurentian elites who were offended by Trump are also the same people who pushed the whole idea of Canadian identity as being "not American". This is because the Laurentians are formed from a combination of the French Canadians and the Loyalists who left the nascent US to settle in the area between Toronto and Montreal (as well as New Brunswick, PEI, and Nova Scotia). They started with a dislike of the patriots who started the Revolution and separated from Great Britain and the Crown. This dislike was reinforced several times, including during the War of 1812 and the Fenian Raids.
Unlike the East, the West was settled by a combination of Ukrainians, Metis (French Canadian/First Nations mix), Germans, British (directly from Britain), and Americans (coming north for land), as well as Japanese and Chinese in SW BC. These folks never had the animosity towards the US that the Laurentians do. Most of the US-friendly PMs have come from the West. The US-unfriendly PMs usually come from the Laurentian corridor.
Hence, when Trump bloviated (as he does, in his typical New Yorker manner), the Laurentians were offended while the Westerners shrugged it off. Note that the voting patterns in the West were typical, but leaning more Conservative than usual. The voting patterns in the East, especially in Quebec, New Brunswick, Nova Scotia, and PEI leaned more Liberal than usual. The areas with the closest US ties in Ontario did, however, vote for the Conservatives (Windsor, Sarnia, Niagara).
As an aside, IMHO, US and Canadian history really need to be taught as one unit, together, to fully understand the how and why we're at this point. They're tied together from the very beginning of both countries, and there have been many, many interactions between the two since.
I'm very poorly informed on this issue despite the fact that I grew up across the border and have always had an affection for Canada and Canadians. Been reading about the potential for Alberta independence which I guess is at least a possibility. What, in your opinion, would this look like and could it actually happen anytime soon?
Alberta has been pushing for more equality within Canada and for independence for about 100 years running now, longer than Quebec’s quest for independence. There’s a whole history of Western Alienation dating back to the Red River Rebellion (1869) and British Columbia joining Confederation (1871). The Red River Rebellion led by Louis Riel led to the creation of Manitoba as a province, but with a much smaller size than now and the feds owned the resources for a number of years afterwards (the same was done regarding resources to Alberta and Saskatchewan in 1907). British Columbia was promised a land link to the east by 1881 that wasn’t completed until 1885. In fact, the Liberals wanted to cancel the railway altogether at one point. So the West, including Manitoba and British Columbia has been adversely affected by the East for a long time. Hell, even today, there’s still one road in northern Ontario that connects the country.
As for whether Alberta succeeds in secession, I think it’s very likely they could get over 50%. Saskatchewan also has a similar petition going around for signatures to be put on the ballot. If Alberta is successful, then I’d give good odds Saskatchewan follows. Given their history, BC and Manitoba wouldn’t be far behind. I just don’t see Carney as being smart enough and savvy enough to keep Confederation together.
After that, Quebec would obviously try a third time for independence. They’d lose the transfer money and guilt trips.
So would the former provinces become independent nations within the remaining Canada to the east and west? Would the contiguous provinces become a Confederacy?We're told that succession is illegal in the US because Lincoln won his war. Will the Canadians have a war of Eastern aggression to put down the rebels? Personally I'm fine with Alberta as a US territory or even a 51st state or an independent Republic but I don't know if that is possible as a practical matter. Seems to me Canada is following the European model and is no longer a liberal democracy. I don't see Ottawa going quietly into the night. Really don't give a shit about Quebec.
Unlike the US, Canada has a process for secession, partially due to the two Quebec referenda on independence (1980 and 1995). That said, the process isn't easy, but the fact that Albertans and Saskatchewanians are even willing to attempt it says volumes. The most likely scenario is that a new western federation would be formed from the four western provinces and at least two of the territories (Yukon and Northwest territories). The piece of legislation is the Clarity Act, passed in 1999.
https://laws.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/C-31.8/FullText.html
Should the western provinces choose to leave, my guess is that the house of cards collapses with Quebec being opportunistic and going for independence, followed by an independent Newfoundland-Labrador (they've been independent before). That leaves the three Maritimes in a precarious position. Even the premier of Nova Scotia stated in 1995, during the Quebec referendum, that their only realistic option is to pursue statehood. Ontario would then be a rump Canada.
The western confederation might be more like the Republic of Texas eventually, joining the US later on if they have economic troubles or a massive debt (which is one major reason Texas joined the Union).
First off, you're one of the best informed Americans on Canadian issues I've ever come across. For most Americans what goes on in their hat may as well be what's happening in Irian Jaya. They know more about Tatooine than Calgary.
"As for whether Alberta succeeds in secession, I think it’s very likely they could get over 50%."
I've been hearing 20-30% from people in the Alberta provincial government at the moment.
There's an impetus to seize the moment from Western Separatists right now, and a demand for an immediate referendum, but I think it would be good to wait a year or two for several reasons.
1. Carney is going to screw over the West again in a manner the Trudeau's could only dream of, and all the people willing to give him a chance right now will come to hate him. Carney has promised this. It's in his book.
If the separatists push a referendum right now they'll lose, and then when Carney pulls his shit, the remainers will say "We already had a referendum and you lost". If they wait, they can win.
2. The Numbered Treaties (1871-1921). Canada didn't "conquer" the Canadian west. The British signed eleven different "treaties" with different groups of natives whereby they became British citizens and citizens of the Canadian colonies and their land became British, in exchange for an annual stipend and special rights.
These treaties are still legally in force in the west and the land technically still belongs to the crown. This wasn't the case in Eastern Canada where they just moved in and didn't give a fuck what the Indians thought.
However separatists can get around this if the West after separation stays part of the British Commonwealth and still recognize the crown.
If Alberta wants statehood it would have to go the Texas route and become an independent country first. It would need to retain ties with the British monarchy, and then renegotiate with the five Treaty Holders who currently make up parts of the province before applying to be a state.
Exactly. I don’t see the referendum going on the ballot immediately, and I fully agree that Carney is going to piss off the West in ways that no one thought possible before. IIRC, they’ve already gone to try to make people buy only electric cars by 2030. That will never go over well where distances are long and it gets cold (-40 C or F doesn’t matter at that point). Apparently Carney’s next target is X and other US-based social media platforms. I can’t imagine many west or east being happy with that.
Thanks to you and Mothers for the background. I didn't know that Canada has a legal path to secession which strikes me as much more civilized than what we have down here. I've never bought the claim that the states didn't assume a right to secede when they signed on and that the civil war somehow magically made secession illegal because slavery. Huge chunks of Illinois would like to join Indiana and Missouri and not to save slavery. I'd like to see Canadians exploit the opportunity if available. Just seems libertarian to me. I was almost a Canadian but Nixon ended the draft just in time. Still love the place but sad to see what it's become.
The idea of secession being illegal in the US goes back to the preamble of the original Articles of Confederation which stated, "To all to whom these Presents shall come, we, the undersigned Delegates of the States affixed to our Names send greeting. Whereas the Delegates of the United States of America in Congress assembled did on the fifteenth day of November in the year of our Lord One Thousand Seven Hundred and Seventy seven, and in the Second Year of the Independence of America agree to certain articles of Confederation and perpetual Union between the States of Newhampshire, Massachusetts-bay, Rhodeisland and Providence Plantations, Connecticut, New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Delaware, Maryland, Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina, and Georgia in the Words following, viz. “Articles of Confederation and perpetual Union between the States of Newhampshire, Massachusetts-bay, Rhodeisland and Providence Plantations, Connecticut, New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Delaware, Maryland, Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina, and Georgia."
Between the Revolution and the Civil War, nationalists argued the following, explained by historian Kenneth Stampp,
It was later decided in Texas v. White which also relied upon the preamble of the Articles of Confederation.
https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/74/700/
Do the numbered treaties give the tribes any kind of sovereignty that could veto a provincial secession? Maybe a dumb question but it seems like the recognized indigenous groups have a lot of political muscle up there.
Actually see you answered my question above. Never mind.
Honest question: Was the race solely because Trump pissed off Boomers or did Pierre run a really bad campaign?
Both. Pierre campaigned against the carbon tax and Trudeau, both of which the Liberals took off the table before the election. Boomers, especially eastern Boomers were offended by Trump.
There is zero chance that anyone would willingly join the US. Ten years ago, maybe, but not now. The world is watching what is happening here and they want no part of it.
When are you leaving?
What is your point in commenting here? You consistently make claims unsupported by any evidence or logic. Your strategy won't even convince the most hard core leftist that you present a compelling argument. If you just want to sing along with the chorus why not just head over to Slate or The Bulwark?
That's how Molly gets a paycheck.
You mean Biden kidnapped those millions of illegals and dragged their asses here?
You never can tell what the Danes may get up to.
#DarkAgeMAGAhats
Wut?
I'm glad we at least got a jd Vance was wrong about trump
That's what makes it a Reason article.
I thought the overlong word count, poor grammar and complete lack of nuance were what made it a Reason article.
Well a Sullum article at least.
'Finally, Trump wants to emulate the leaders he admires. Putin and Xi are also into expanding their territorial control.'
Now do the WEF and every dedicated Marxist, you TDS shit.
As we point out routinely...Putin did not invade anybody under Trump. Why could no other President make a similar claim?
traitortrump is only interested in people talking about him
all the crazy dumbass crap he says is so he can watch people talk about him
He has no policies or goals other than that
Lol, wut?
He is just blindly repeating the MSNBC narrarive. Schumer and others are repeating this exact same talking point.
Meanwhile Schumer came out with the reason for the unchecked illegal immigration, to make them all legal voters.
https://x.com/WesternLensman/status/1918791398637146236
Boring troll is boring.
Don't you have homework due tomorrow? Or is middle school already done for the year?
BTW, this snark applies equally to middle school students and teachers.
Reason has become a SNL skit...what if superman had landed in Germany or What if Alexander the Great had a B1 bomber?
What if Alexander the Great had a B1 bomber?
He might have made it all the way to America and thwarted Trump.
Reason editor's wet dream.
...MUST....CONFIRM....BIASES....!!!!!!!!
IF THE NEWS ISN'T REAL, WE'LL JUST ASK WHAT IF.
Trump has a 62% approval with Hispanics.
Democrat gaslighting over deportations is not only not working, it's backfiring.
Trump Daily Job Approval - Full Week, Likely Voters
All: 50%
Men: 55%
Women: 45%
18-39: 50%
40-64: 52%
65+: 46%
White: 49%
Black: 39%
Hispanic: 62%
Other: 51%
DEM: 24%
IND: 46%
GOP: 79%
From the comments: Hispanics see what’s happening. They want the trash removed too. The illegals aren't living in Martha's Vineyard, they're being placed in working class Hispanic neighborhoods.
Hispanic legal immigrants bust their asses to reclaim older, run-down neighborhoods and return them to their former Leave-It-To-Beaver glory, and unassimilated God-knows-who from God-knows-where are rendering all their hard work meaningless.
Of course they want the bastards out.
Regular reminder that even Cesar Chavez was against illegal immigration.
So, he was MAGA all along?
Basically. Joined operation wetback.
Chavez was a native born US citizen (Yuma, Arizona).
It's uncanny how similar Bernie Sanders and Donnie are in the issues.
Both are central planning, protectionist, anti-immigrant for the factory men, Soviet-loving top men.
You were banned for posting a link to child porn.
It's uncanny how similar Dick Cheyney and Buttplug are in the issues.
Both are central planning, globalist, war-mongering, military industrial complex, CIA-loving top men... well, Pluggo only tops kids, but you know.
Calling people "trash" is disgusting and racist. You are a bigot. You are what is wrong with the US.
I'm not even American, Tony, you pretentious retard. Nor am I "white" by your retarded one-drop rules.
And somehow you pretending it's wrong to call Narcotraficantes and MS-13 gang bangers "trash", while disparaging fly-over country Americans in the exact same manner, shows exactly what sort of hypocritical garbage you are.
What about "white trash"?
Weird take Molly as you've basically been calling every other country trash as you demand all illegals be allowed to stay here.
If she didn’t have hypocrisy and retardation, she’d have nothing at all.
Well, she still has her dick.
DEPLORABLES!
Or is it OK when white conservatives are the target?
You're absolutely right. The only person that we universally agree is trash is MollyGodiva.
The Democrats badly miscalculated the great replacement. The vast majority of Hispanics are 3rd, 4th or more generation Americans. They have nothing in common with illegals. I'm 3rd generation Eastern European. If 20 million Poles crossed the border illegally I'm cool with sending them to El Salvador.
The illegals on Martha's Vineyard tend to hail from Ireland,Bulgaria, and Brazil.
Highway 1 in Big Sur has been closed for 838 days.
In that time China has built 3500 miles of high speed rail, and California hasn't been able to fix a quarter mile of highway.
I’m coining a new term:
“the Marxist-industrial complex.”
It’s the latticework of NGO’s, academic make-work institutes, nonprofits and consulting companies that absorb “advisory” and “consulting“ contracts from middle tier government bureaucrats around the world.
California does the corruption work that Americans won’t do.
Well, half of America. California got nothing on Illinois, Massachusetts, Washington (DC or regular-sized), New York, New Jersey, New Mexico, Old Mexico, etc, etc.
Actually Arkansas, Kentucky, Louisiana then New York are the most corrupt states.
Source = Institute for Corruption Studies
You must knock down Georgia's score by a couple of dozen points all on your lonesome, Shrike.
"Source = Institute for Corruption Studies"
I had to look this up as every time Shrike refuses to provide a link you know there's bullshit afoot.
Turns out the "Institute" is some guys WordPress blog: https://greasethewheels.org/
Here's their methodology:
"CRI is an index based on the corruption stories covered in Associated Press (AP) news wires which are electronically available online via LexisNexis. Using news stories to measure corruption is nothing new. Gentzkow, Glaeser and Goldin (2006) measure corruption in the U.S. at the national level using the New York Times and local newspapers covered by Ancestry.com. They search for the words “corrupt” and “fraud” (and variants such as “corruption” or “fraudulent”) and count the appearance of news articles (or pages) containing those words. This count gives a measure of the amount of space newspapers give to stories related to corruption or fraud. They then deflate these counts by the number of articles (or pages) containing the word “political” (and its variants) which measures the amount of space given to politically relevant stories. Deflating the word counts by “political” is equivalent of trying to measure corruption divided by the size of the government."
Even stupider than I expected from a Buttplug citation.
Turns out the "Institute" is some guys WordPress blog
Says the guy who routinely relies on Twitter randos for his 'news'.
If I were you, Jeffy, I wouldn't talk too much about that given the number of propaganda outlets you cite.
"Says the guy who routinely relies on Twitter randos for his 'news'."
Ever noticed how those "Twitter randos" always feature actual links to credible sources in their posts? The tweet is there solely for the pithy commentary on the linked story.
But you knew that. You're always so incredibly disingenuous about this stuff, you incompetent shill. I hope Media Matters didn't pay you for that one.
Bullshit. Illinois, especially Chicago, can teach Corruption 401 and grant a masters and a PhD in corruption. There are fucking African shitholes that have nothing on Chicago when it comes to corruption.
Yup
Mayor daily hired his cousin to buldoze an airport in the middle of the night
Billionaire Pritzker had the toilets removed from one of his mansions to save on his property taxes. He was rewarded with the governorship. Even Newsome can't beat that.
Californians simply accept what is happening to them. They are Europeans at this point. Rape them all you want, just tell them that they are pretty after.
Conservatives oppose HSR.
And have you ever been to Big Sur? Driven on Highway 1? Are you a highway engineer?
Pennsylvania reopened a section of Interstate 95 that had been destroyed by a truck accident in 12 days. Democratic Governor gets it done. Fortunately, no part of Interstate 95 in Pennsylvania is build on geologically unstable cliffs.
Must be that Republican governor of California that can't get PCH open.
"Marxist-industrial complex"
I have been a professor for 29 years and I have yet to meet a Marxist university faculty member in the US. I do know one anarchist, but he is now pretty much retired. "Marxist" has been redefined in Orwellian fashion to mean anything the far right finds threatening.
Lol. Nobody believes this Charlie. Hilarious though. Fiest Harvard grad. Now professor.
At least make the lie believable.
https://www.academia.org/self-identifying-marxist-professors-outnumber-conservatives-as-college-professors/
Yeah professor we all know the anti Marxists are Orwellian in opposite world.
I have been a professor for 29 years
And there's your problem. You're heavily indoctrinated and brainwashed.
propaganda - noun - prŏp″ə-găn′də - the spreading of ideas, information, or rumor for the purpose of helping or injuring an institution, a cause, or a person
STILL no explanations - no apologies - no comments
Harris was never ahead, they knew it, and they did this
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Timely Polling Reminder: "Plouffe said the campaign’s internal polling never had Harris ahead of Trump." https://huffpost.com/entry/kamala-harris-campaign-polls_n_67462013e4b0fffc5a469baf
Now - look at these NAMES
Polls are worthless.
Yet we get multiple citations to sling by reason to prove he is failing.
The polls they report on are useless. Their internal polling that they hide from us until after the elections are pretty accurate.
Just another example of why you don’t hate the media enough.
Hating the media enough is an unattainable goal. It's more about the journey than finally reaching nirvana.
Internal polls call from registered voter lists. Public polls do random digit dialing.
In my work in campaigns I have always called from registered voter lists. I always know what the results are going to be before the election, unless it is really close.
I am not sure why public polling firms don't call from voter lists. They are easily available.
Harvard grad. Professor. Campaign employee.
Try to limit the number of lies you tell buddy. Lol.
Charliehall, Renaissance Man.
Trump says he's unsure whether people in the US are entitled to due process
reuters.com/world/us/trump-says-hes-unsure-whether-people-us-are-entitled-due-process-2025-05-04/
#Donnie the Dictator
Dictators don’t use the word “unsure “.
You obviously never have read Stalin's propaganda. I am reading Churchill's narrative about World War II and am up to the Yalta Conference. Stalin was unsure about what kind of government Poland was going to have after WW2. Or at least that was what he told Churchill and Roosevelt. Neither Churchill or Roosevelt believed him, but Stalin had the guns on the ground and that was what mattered. You are like the leftist stooges like Henry Wallace who thought that Stalin could be trusted. Wallace at least would admit years later that he had been conned.
4th lie. We know you don't actually read anything except the act blue talking points.
Act blue is not sending their best. Some are murderers, some are child molesters, some are gang members. Others, I assume, are nice people. But not professor Charlie.
The part of the Reuters article Buttplug deliberately left out:
"I don't know. I'm not, I’m not a lawyer. I don't know," Trump said, adding that such a requirement would mean "we'd have to have a million or 2 million or 3 million trials."
Trump added that his lawyers "are going to obviously follow what the Supreme Court said."
The part that Reuters deliberately left out:
“I don’t know. It seems — it might say that, but if you’re talking about that, then we’d have to have a million or 2 million or 3 million trials, we have thousands of people that are — some murderers and some drug dealers and some of the worst people on Earth. I was elected to get them the hell out of here, and the courts are holding me from doing it."
Welker - "But even given those numbers that you’re talking about, don’t you need to uphold the Constitution of the United States as president?
“I have to respond by saying, again, I have brilliant lawyers that work for me, and they are going to obviously follow what the Supreme Court said.”
Buttplug can't stop lying and thinks because he doesn't read his citations, we won't.
Hahahahahahahaha
You laugh, but every Democrat is conditioned only by their partisan media.
Secretary of State Marco Rubio threw a temper tantrum after a German intelligence agency classified a far-right organization as “extremist.”
...
Germany’s domestic intelligence agency labeled the Alternative for Germany (AfD) party as a “proven right-wing extremist organization.” The party’s platform is based on anti-immigrant ideology. Several AfD leaders have repeated Nazi slogans and threatened to deport German citizens of non-ethnic-German heritage.
.....
But Rubio slammed the agency’s decision on X and urged the country to “reverse course.”
https://www.thedailybeast.com/marco-rubio-has-meltdown-after-alt-right-group-deemed-extremist/
Nobody’s surprised you support this fascist.
Buttplug declares his Nazi bona fides yet again.
I posted this above but it works down here.
Who perfected the tactic — the National Socialist German Workers' Party or the German Social Democrats?
1. Smear political opponents with unfair and dishonest labels.
2. Call their policies "extreme" without ever specifying which ones or why.
3. Use those same smears and false accusations to justify banning them.
The idea that a classically liberal party, led by a lesbian married to a Sri Lankan woman, is somehow the second coming of the Nazis is absurd. What’s even more disturbing is that it's being done by actual authoritarians using actual Nazi-style tactics.
The Democrats’ efforts to ban, imprison, and even kill Donald Trump have paved the way for a broader surge of authoritarian strategies among the Western global elite. The irony is breathtaking—and the danger, very real.
AfD started out as a classical liberal party, but the people with that ideology left long ago. In recent years some of its elected officials participate in anti-Semitic and pro-Nazi social media propaganda. That used to be beyond the pale in the US, too.
And then your democrats elevated it to their top plank. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Cite?
AfD started out as a classical liberal party, but the people with that ideology left long ago.
No they didn't. That's a lie. The people who started the party are for the most part all still with it.
In recent years some of its elected officials participate in anti-Semitic and pro-Nazi social media propaganda.
This is another lie. Smearing anti-illegal immigration stances as Nazi is vile and dishonest, and the AfD has never advocated anything remotely anti-semitic... unlike your Democrats.
Nobody’s buying your bullshit. You’ve been coming here for awhile spouting nonsense and never responding when asked for evidence.
Tell your bosses we’re bored with you and to send someone else.
Donald Trump is a 34x convicted felon. That isn't a false accusation. And he avoided prosecution on even more serious charges. He should be in prison.
Yes the authoritarian strategies are because crooks and megalomaniacs discovered that if they work for Trump in the US, they can work elsewhere, too.
And the act blue talking point. Lol.
Who else has ever been charged for anything similar? How many procedural violations were forced to be made to get those convictions? Why did the judge allow a choose your own adventure for judgement, against due process requirements?
Youre a retarded activist Charlie. Nothing more.
How about Leticia James and that whole mortgage fraud thing professor Charlie? Should she be in jail?
"Donald Trump is a 34x convicted felon."
Like Nelson Mandela, Martin Luther King Jr. and Jesus Christ.
Wait until you find out about all the people the Nazis convicted for made up crimes. You'll cum in your pants.
And I note the Orwellian accusation of suggesting that banning Nazi sympathizers makes one a Nazi.
And here is more baseless narratives while your party is painting and scratching swastikas on everything. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
All three of these describe you! Finally you admit you really are a Nazi!
Well, in some small measure of defense, I will say that I have never seen you say directly that you want to ban the Democratic Party. But you do think they are just one small step away from the actual 1940s Nazi Party, so it would be weird to think that you don't favor banning them on some level.
So tell me, did you look in a mirror when you typed that, Jeff?
1. Smear political opponents with unfair and dishonest labels.
2. Call their policies "extreme" without ever specifying which ones or why.
3. Use those same smears and false accusations to justify banning them.
All three of these describe you! Finally you admit you really are a Nazi!
Lol, Chemjeff literally does the same thing to me as German Social Democrats to the AfD. Always give Lying Jeffy a little rope and he'll invariably hang himself.
Yes, saying "You should not try and ban parties you dislike" is a temper tantrum and not a statement of reality.
As a long time Reason reader, I'm starting to think it has become another propaganda machine for the American left.
Ever since Trump got re-elected, Reason has been pontificating, "Orange man bad" bullshit.
The sane who visit this site has to wonder if Reason isn't getting a ton of money from the DNC for these leftist articles written since January.
Why on Earth would a publication dedicated to free minds and free markets have anything good to say about Trump? He’s vehemently opposed to those things. Saying Democrats this and Democrats that doesn’t change Trump’s hostility everything Reason and libertarians stand for. So again, why would anyone who supports free minds and free markets have anything but contempt for the man, for his policies, and his contempt for the Constitution and for the law?
Poor sarc.
Remember folks. Sarcasmic swears he's not a Democrat. He only incidentally defends them at every opportunity and advocates all their policies. Sheer coincidence.
You must be confusing Reason with the Heritage Foundation.
Weird way to spell Jacobin.
Jesse Walker will call you an asshole for noticing.
**Wright concluded, contrary to most foreign policy observers at the time, that Trump "has a remarkably coherent and consistent worldview" with three tenets. First, Trump is deeply skeptical of the liberal international order that embraced globalization and the network of U.S. alliances. He believes trade deficits are a sign of economic weakness.**
Probably because the liberal international order and globalism have disproportionately benefited illiberal globalist progressives. And while trade deficits are a boogeyman that prove Trump's limited understanding of economics, tariff imbalances that have persisted for generations are anti-American garbage that have only benefited the elite set and their quarterly statements. These were initially allowed to help lesser nations pull out of their economic stupor, but somehow they never went away. Libertarians might call this "nation building", and I've heard they're (allegedly) against that.
**Second, he believes U.S. allies have cheated the United States out of billions of dollars by running trade surpluses and not paying enough for their own defense.**
Mkay. You're trying to muddy the waters of defense spending by throwing trade surpluses in a second time. Every nation under our umbrella has been living off the blood and treasure of the US military since WWII. This isn't a "belief", it's a fact. And it used to really bother Reason right up until a certain orange man moved into a certain egg-shaped office.
**Third, Trump's sympathies are with foreign strongmen who he believes are tough and firm and get what they want in world politics.**
Trump's boner for Putin is hard....to ignore, and it's where many of us get off the bus. That said, he is the only one of the last four presidents to not have Russia expand its territory under his watch. We'll see if that's still true as he tries to wind down the war. I have no problem with the way he's treating Zelenski. It would be nice to see him do the same to Putin.
As to Xi, Trump is literally the ONLY reason we are disentangling from China. The Bushies and the Democrats and their media would have been perfectly fine to continue ignoring China's military buildup, intellectual property theft, unfair business practices, etc. If fact, those people tried to tell us we were racist for linking China to a Chinese virus that escaped from a Chinese lab and killed millions while the Chinese government constantly lied about it.
Trump does a lot that is easy to argue against. So argue against his many actual flaws instead of constantly lying about things he never did or those he is doing right.
This is the alt right version of immigration.
No to rapists and criminal brown people coming here from shit holes.
Yes to taking over shit holes directly so the rapists and criminal brown people can be American and still stay in their shit holes
Greenland and Canada are shitholes? Who knew?
Well not Greenland as far as we know. But it doesn't seem like anybody actually wants to live there. Like Illinois.
I just blew in from the windy city
The windy city is mighty pretty
But they ain't got what we got
I'm tellin' ya, boys
We got more life in Deadwood City
Than in all of Illinois
Had to search that which dragged me into a rabbit hole from which I have yet to emerge. So this Jane Chick was a cross dressing sex worker in the 19th century and everybody was cool with that? Does ENB know this?
Women with vaginas gross out Lindsey Graham…women with smelly hairy balls gross me out.
That said, Lindsey Graham is a fucking neocon, just like you, Sam.
Yeah, I'm confused as to why Shrike is harshing on one of his chickenhawk pals.
Try again, stupid cunt.
Fine. The alt right version of open borders. Where the national borders - not individuals - are free to migrate to/from shit holes
Put down the pipe.
Well, at least he’s not trying to give half a trillion bucks to deadbeat college graduates.
Who did that? Can't be Biden, because the Supreme Court explicitly told him it was unconstitutional. And Reason told me repeatedly Trump is the first president to create a constitutional crisis by ignoring the courts.
Biden didn't ignore the courts in that case, you slanderous liar.
“The Supreme Court blocked it,” Biden added, “but that didn’t stop me.”
God you're an idiot Charlie.
4 times he ignored SCOTUS with student loans.
He had a stunning number of SCOTUS defeats lol.
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-supreme-court-dealt-biden-historic-series-defeats-2025-01-18/
You are correct, of course, Charlie. Biden wasn't even the actual president at the time.
Now, since you obviously know everything, why don't you tell us exactly who WAS running the country the last four years.
The tragicomedy of this is that the world is ringing alarm bells over Trump blustering on annexing Canada, but ignored simmering tensions around the world finally exploded into wars and acts of atrocities against sovereign nations. Even though we're paying UN and NATO billions of dollars to keep things from going out of hand in those parts of the world. Wake me up when Trump's conquest of Canada result in casualties matching Ukraine's.
The democrats sent a contingent to El Salvador, demanding to meet to with their head of state to demand a release of their own citizen, going as far as to threaten sanctions against a nation that poses no threat to us. What's that? That's ok? Breach of protocol and disrespect of national sovereignty is ok when immigrants are involved? A government cancelling of elections or delegitimizing political party they deem as "extremist" isn't worth mentioning?
If the loser leaders of this world tackled their problems with the same sense of moral urgency they're deployed on stopping Trump, the would would be a better place. Trump is of their own making.
And for God's sakes, Trump's been president for almost 5 years. If you haven't figured out who he is by now, his penchant for trolling and bluster, and have to ask "gee I wonder what he means by this" I can't help you.
Reason has been hyperventilating about the Maryland Father for a week now and the death of liberal democracy in Europe doesn't even get a mention. JD Vance goes to Europe and delivers an historic defense of free speech and Reason calls it exporting culture war. Europe apparently is too local but El Salvador isn't. This is libertarianism in the Trump era.
Results of Trump's bluster about Canada annexation:
1) Piss off Canadian public and politicians making favorable trade compromises less likely
2) Drastically decrease tourism from Canadians to Florida and other states
3) Increase Canadian patriotism
Nothing good. This isn't 'speak softly and carry a big stick'. This is 'yell and jump around annoying your friends.'.
Oh yeah, well you didn’t complain when Democrats did it you hypocrite. That makes whatever Trump does ok.
Are you ever going to stop beating this dead donkey?
WHAT IF?
I approve of Reason's new, more accurate, name.
Like Juicy Smollettay on steroids.
If we can't use reality to advance our bogus BS garbage narrative, then we'll just invent what if scenarios to do it!
Can I just point out that it's really really really weird how Reason and the rest of the MSM narrativists hasn't posted an article about their latest hero, Killmore Alfredo Tequila, in the last couple days?
Gosh that story dropped REAL quick for some reason, didn't it Reason.
Last I heard here he's a lovable Maryland father busting his ass to put food on the table for his starving children. Tragically he only got six years of due process. Just appalling.
And if his wife needs a punch in the face every now and then, well, that's progressivism!
Annexing Canada would result in about 48 House of Representatives seats being moved from the current US to the current Canada. This alone would flip the House of Representatives to the Democrats. Oh, and there would be nine million French speakers added to the US Citizenry. The US will be a trilingual country; the US is already the second largest Spanish speaking country in the world.
Nah, we just break them into states. We especially break up Quebec and Toronto. Outside of that, the majority of Canada will not be retards.
Also, sorry French Canadians - learn English. Because we're not going to accommodate. Or move to France. Nobody cares which you choose.
And the TDS - addled lying pile of slimy lefty shit charliehall is full of shit, besides.
Yeah professor. And there's no way the Canadians will put up with dudes playing in the women's hockey league.
Did you know that May 1 was "Loyalty Day"? No really!
https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/05/loyalty-day-and-law-day-u-s-a-2025/
I just wish Trump was a bit more loyal to the Constitution.
How is Trump disloyal to the constitution, Lying Jeffy?
https://www.newsweek.com/maga-leaders-defend-americans-right-boycott-israel-2067909
MTG: "It is my job to defend American’s rights to buy or boycott whomever they choose without the government harshly fining them or imprisoning them."
Uhoh, does that mean MTG is anti-Semitic now?
Do you disagree Jeff?
And the BDS Movement isn't about individuals choosing what to buy or who to boycott, you evil antisemitic fuck, and you know that.
It's about stopping others from having the choice.
Oh and of course Trump said "I don't know" when it came to due process rights for everyone. Really what it means, though, is that he doesn't care. That is why he doesn't know, and never bothered to find out. So the illegal immigrants, they are bad people, and so due process rights don't really matter *for them*, since they are bad people, and therefore they should just be kicked out!
It is the traditional conservative view of crime and punishment: Bad people do bad things, and good people don't do bad things. So only the bad people have to worry about the government coming after them, if you're not a bad person, if you don't have anything to hide, you have nothing to fear!
This is of course a completely unlibertarian view of the matter of rights and liberty, but we can't blame Team Red for doing Team Red things. That is one big reason why they are not libertarians and never will be libertarians.
Reposting this from above, because of course Lying Jeffy would try to lie about this too:
“I don’t know. It seems — it might say that, but if you’re talking about that, then we’d have to have a million or 2 million or 3 million trials, we have thousands of people that are — some murderers and some drug dealers and some of the worst people on Earth. I was elected to get them the hell out of here, and the courts are holding me from doing it."
Welker - "But even given those numbers that you’re talking about, don’t you need to uphold the Constitution of the United States as president?
“I have to respond by saying, again, I have brilliant lawyers that work for me, and they are going to obviously follow what the Supreme Court said.”
I'm glad Jeff could pull himself out of his tub of ben and Jerry's to grace us with his idiocy.
Maybe he spent the day with sarc playing cards in a half million dollar lake house.
If Canada ever became the 51st state it would be disaster for the Republican party. Canada's population is higher than California's so it would immediately have the highest number of representatives in the House of Representatives. That means that almost every other state would lose representatives. And Canada would undoubtably start off as majority Democratic. Because of this, convincing Canada to vote for you would become the number one task of any Democrat. Trump clearly has not thought this thru.
Rest easy. Canada will never be a US state. Trump says all kinds of crazy shit to baffle the simple minded. Looks like it worked on you.
Naah, let the TDS-addled slimy piece of shit Sarpanitum continue to scream DID YOU HEAR WHAT TRUMP SAID????????????????????
Fuck off and die Sarpanitum.
1. Aside from the fact that a single state larger than the entire US is a ridiculous idea, Canada is more federalist than the US in many ways. It has interprovincial tariffs. The Eastern provinces hate the Western ones and vice versa. They all hate Quebec. It would be at least ten states. Not one.
2. Contrary to American lefty beliefs, only Toronto, Vancouver and the state of Quebec would be reliably Democrat.
Believe it or not, most Canadians like their government health care. They would vote for stuff like that even if they aren't reliably 'democratic' on other issues.
"only Toronto, Vancouver and the state of Quebec would be reliably Democrat."
That is half the population of Canada right there.
Look at the super-intelligent NPC coming here with his copy/paste from Reddit.
Welcome NPC. Would you like a loaf of bread or a tankard of mead?
Trump is not planning on annexing anything, but specifically with Canada and Greenland and even the Panama Canal is directed towards China effectively telling China that we won't allow China to control assets or resources.