5 Times the Trump Team Told Americans To Accept Being Poorer
Trump's comment about how "dolls" will "cost a couple of bucks more" is the latest in a long trend of nationalist conservatives disparaging affordable stuff.

President Donald Trump made headlines this week when he seemed to suggest that American families might be able to afford fewer toys due to his trade policies.
"Well, maybe the children will have two dolls instead of 30 dolls," Trump said on Wednesday, "and maybe the two dolls will cost a couple of bucks more than they would normally."
That was Trump's most direct admission yet about the potential costs of his trade war—which could reduce the average household's income by nearly $3,800 this year, according to the Yale Budget Lab's estimates.
But this was not a run-of-the-mill gaffe or another case of Trump saying the quiet part out loud. If anything, Trump was merely underlining a sentiment that's gained traction on the political right in recent years: that Americans should be forced to pay higher prices for basic goods and household items.
Don't believe me? Here are four other recent incidents in which national conservatives in Trump's orbit admitted as much.
Robert Lighthizer, August 2022
While speaking at the American Economic Forum, Trump's former U.S. Trade Representative dismissed free trade as being rooted in "a philosophy of consumption" that is too "materialistic."
"The best way to fix consumerism is to raise prices," Lighthizer said. "Is consumption really a problem in America?"
That might be easy to say as someone who has spent his career bouncing back and forth between law, politics, and finance—Lighthizer just landed a plush new gig as a "senior advisor" for Citigroup. For many Americans, however, higher prices would mean a material reduction in living standards.
When Lighthizer criticizes "consumerism" and "consumption," he's really just saying that you should be happy with paying more and getting less. Maybe that's true for some people, but that's not something that a president or a presidential appointee should get to decide for you.
Dan Bishop, April 2024
In remarks read into the congressional record, then-Rep. Dan Bishop (R–N.C.) decried the "cheap crap" that Americans were importing from China.
"In just the last 2 years, roughly, Chinese online marketplaces have exploded in size, selling cheap goods at dumping prices into the American market," said Bishop, who is now the deputy director of the White House Office of Management and Budget. "You can go buy sneakers on Temu for $5, and a sweater for $7. Temu reportedly loses $30 per order in a deliberate strategy to flood the U.S. market with cheap crap."
That sounds like a great deal for anyone who needs shoes and a sweater for less than the price of a decent sandwich. People who can afford to pay for better quality, more expensive goods are free to do so, but the idea that the government should force Americans to pay higher prices is elitist and wrong.
If Bishop is right about Temu losing money on every order, then the market should solve this problem on its own. Only the government can get away with doing business that deep in the red.
J.D. Vance, August 2024
Not long after being named Trump's running mate, then-Sen. J.D. Vance (R–Ohio) declared in a campaign speech that "a million cheap, knockoff toasters aren't worth the price of a single American manufacturing job."
That's some bonkers arithmetic, as I wrote in a longer response at the time (which you can find here). Affordable and abundant labor-saving appliances are part of the reason that 21st-century America is the best place to live in the history of the human race.
"A product being cheap in both senses—low cost and low quality—is not in and of itself a problem," writes Kevin Corcoran. "Sometimes, buying something inexpensive and basic is a perfectly sensible option!"
But, again, what Vance was really saying is that you should be poorer.
Ed Gresser, the former assistant U.S. Trade representative who is currently the director of trade and global markets for the Progressive Policy Institute (PPI), crunched the numbers and determined that a fully American-made toaster would cost at least $250. That's significantly more expensive than the $30 and $50 toasters that are readily available in American stores today.
Every dollar that you have to spend on a more expensive toaster is a dollar that can't be spent on something else. In Vance's world, that tradeoff is worth it because of patriotism (or because toaster-building jobs are good for your character), but that's a reality where people would feel significantly poorer.
Scott Bessent, March 2025
While speaking to the Economic Club of New York, Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent declared that "access to cheap goods is not the essence of the American dream."
Again, that might be easy for him to say. Bessent, who was a hedge fund manager before joining the Trump administration, has bought and sold multiple multimillion-dollar homes during his lifetime, as The Wall Street Journal reported. He likely has no problem paying a little extra for home decor.
But what about people who are on an IKEA budget instead? Good luck to them, since the tariffs will hit nearly all of the Swedish retailer's affordable Scandinavian furnishings.
"It's easy to decry cheap goods, or stuff," wrote Reason's Liz Wolfe in response to Bessent's remarks. "People express what they value through their stuff. Stuff is not the essence of the American dream, or the thing that makes life worthwhile, or what we'll be thinking of on our deathbeds, but it is an elemental building block that allows us to pursue all the other things that do give us meaning: That dinner party you hosted at which you were able to fete a friend or get to know a neighbor really did need plates."
As the saying goes: When someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time. The nationalist conservatives now running the Republican Party have said repeatedly that they believe Americans should have to pay higher prices for sneakers and household goods in order to achieve weird political goals like more toaster factories and textile mills. Now, with Trump's tariffs, they are showing their commitment to that premise.
Trump says his tariffs will mean Americans won't be able to afford as many toys for their kids. That likely won't be where it ends.
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why in your world do cheap items not pale in comparison to the United States funding the planet at the expense of future generations?
Boehm is an angry seething baby.
In the psychiatric community we call what you did there “transference”. I will say it was funny though.
In the human community, we call you a slimy pile of lying lefty shit.
So, don't buy cheap things, but let the rest of use decide what we want to do. If you are a farmer selling soybeans to China, you may want to support China so they continue buy soybeans.
2022: BIDENFLATION IS KILLING AMERICA!!!
2025: Nobody needs cheap stuff.
you make mutually exclusive arguments here.
Sarc is truly an economic midget.
I'm just pointing out the dishonesty and dearth of principles proudly on display by you and the other Trump defenders who said higher prices were the end of the world when you could blame them on Biden, and who now attack and belittle anyone who complains about higher prices caused by Trump.
You do know the differences between compounding inflation and one-time price increases, right?
He does not. Neither does qb. Despite having had it explained to them multiple times.
Blah,blah,blah.
2022: BIDENFLATION IS KILLING AMERICA!!!
2025: BIDEN and his fellow Nazi's has put everyone in debt for $220,000/each (Totalling $36,000,000,000,000)!
Face it Americans ... You are going BROKE.
Sarc, "Sounds like a contradiction to me. Where's my ?free? pony!" LMAO.
He doesn't say accept being poor. He says stop buying cheap crap from China and get a grip on your rabid blind consumerism.
Actually quite wise advice.
IT in consumer debt, rising welfare and dependency, loss of responsibility... all the things Boehm supports.
"loss of responsibility" .............. That deserved a repeat.
Killing Justice (responsibility) so [WE] Identify-as Gov-Gun gangster battles can be the new trade median.
Remember when nobody on the Liberal/Left owned a TV because they were too productive with their "Think Globally, Act Locally" and "Buy/Consume Local" initiatives?
They were literally putting out commercials about blowing people up or setting them on fire because they prioritized the comfort of "modern" amenities like gas stoves and functioning dishwashers and cars with 500 mi. of range to subsisting on crickets and locally-grown organic kale.
Actually quite
wise advicea government mandate.Yep.
Making choices about how and what one consumes is a mandate? How so?
Yes, because state sales tax or federal income tax is (D)ifferent.
Does it hurt being that retarded?
How does the mushroom head feel when Donny works it in?
Yes, record levels of personal debt have no relevance here.
Guess that cheap crap wasn't as cheap as your side claimed.
""The nationalist conservatives now running the Republican Party have said repeatedly that they believe Americans should have to pay higher prices for sneakers and household goods in order to achieve weird political goals like more toaster factories and textile mills.""
Is this a swipe at American protectionism? Because the democrats are good at that too. See Biden's justification for his heavy tariffs on China in 2024. So nothing new here.
With respect to higher prices ahead, the Trump admin is actually acknowledging it. The democrats lost an election because they were denying it was existing.
Yeah. But at least Biden added 5T in regulatory costs on top of his 21% inflation while expanding welfare. That's a great economy.
The democrats lost an election because they were denying it was existing.
Ummm No. They lost because people don't like getting poorer.
It's true people don't like getting poorer.
Claiming the economy is great while you are getting poorer is never a winner at the polls.
True.
I'm not sure "deal with it" is any better though.
Short of the fact that one is a realization of consequence while the other is the CAUSE (ignorance).
Well, the reporting is new because Boehm couldn't give a shit when it was Biden and Democrats.
In a country where many folks can only afford to make the minimum payment on their credit cards because they bought so much crap, maybe cutting back a bit makes sense.
If you believe it is your patriotic duty to buy products made in America, then go right ahead. Just don't force everyone else to assume that duty for themselves.
""Just don't force everyone else to assume that duty for themselves.""
I agree with that. Which also includes the duty to pay your own loans, including student loans.
I agree with you and with Jeff. I would add that you should also pay taxes at an appropriate level to the services the government provides.
Except you support services the government has never funded.
Indeed. Like Tariffs put on International-markets that covers the National Affairs/Defense the Union-of-States/Fed Government was literally created for.
If you believe it is your patriotic duty to force children to use restrooms with people of the opposite sex in there, go right ahead. Just don't force everyone else into participating in your child abuse.
If you believe it is your patriotic duty to take an experimental shot that didn't really provide much protection, go right ahead. Just don't force everyone to become lab rats lest they lose their jobs or lose their ability to travel.
Duty is acceptable when it aligns with the party's goals.
If you believe it is your patriotic duty to buy products made in China, then go right ahead. Just don't force everyone else to pay 85% domestic manufacturing taxes to cover-up your tax-exemption and subsidized shipping.
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A true environmentalist would bring up the point that buying cheap disposable items are filling up landfills and you should quit buying it.
I've tried pointing things out like this for years to little avail from jackasses like Sarc and Jeffy.
One of the biggest problems for landfills is disposable diapers.
If you really care about the environment, you should go back to cloth diapers.
I think instead people are just ceasing having babies.
We should sacrifice for the Greater Good? I can vote democrat if I want to hear that.
I’m willing to sacrifice the wives of every Democrat in this country for the greater good. Which is something they should approve of.
And yet the same Americans who will be hurt by these official policies voted for the officials who are now giving them what they clearly promised to give them. My only complaint is that I will be punished for their wrong choices along with them - they will deserve their newfound poverty, but I will not. So much for "democracy."
Youre already being punished for rampant consumerism and bad economic responsibility from the poor. Higher credit rates, lower banking interest, higher government costs for welfare, etc. So why continue to encourage it?
Isn't democracy the things we do together?
Or is it 'elections have consequences'?
"Paying my Nazi-Bill HURTS!" /s
Where you under the impression it wouldn't?
"But if I just shovel it off on domestic manufacturing it won't!" /s
Actually it probably will. Because a USA that makes nothing, has nothing except endless DEBT of consumerism.
What do you think is the number of times Biden directly or indirectly said he would kill, sanction the killing of, or otherwise instructing people to kill Americans and/or civilians? 10? 20? 5 seems like an under estimate.
If you said "The number of times Biden promised not to infringe on Americans freedoms only to be explicitly countermanded with by the administration wearing 'misstatement' as a fig leaf." I might believe 5.
I mean, FFS, we've been getting "Learn to code" from everyone between Zuckerberg and Biden *since the Obama Era*. We churned out more CS grads than there were jobs year-over-year and *still* hired coders through the H1B Visa program *and* gave DACA kids loans. The whole time it's been repeatedly stated that we aren't going to get out of debt without tightening our belts. Even if Trump does precisely dick to actually cut the budget and pay off the debt, which seems to have suddenly become a non-story around here, where does the assumption that throwing loans and tech jobs future employees and illegal while subsidizing healthcare and facilitating trade from China will work?
You don't have to have a plan, but we reluctantly and strategically have gone with whatever Reason-brand libertarians have been using in place of a plan and all its done is get us lockdowns and more globalist wealth redistribution.
Yes, yes we know. You judge right and wrong based upon who is doing it, not what they are doing. When Biden did it it was bad. When Trump does it it is ok. And the only hypocrites here are not you and your fellow Trump defenders who say anything Trump does is ok because Biden did it first. No, it's those you falsely accuse of defending Biden.. You're just projecting your complete and total lack of principles, integrity, and intellectual honesty in order to justify your proud hypocrisy. You are what you accuse others of. You are what you hate. And you don't even know it.
Your severe TDS is showing again. You posit an false equivalency between the two to simply justify your TDS, day-in and day-out.
Imagine how miserable and worthless Sark would feel if he were suddenly transported into an alternate earth where there was no Trump. He would be utterly rudderless.
The Bush family had a goal to make China great again and in 2008 George W Bush took a victory lap at the 2008 Beijing Olympics as his final foreign trip to celebrate a mission accomplished! Wait a second, didn’t you vote for Bush?? Oops! 😉
The markets have fully recovered from the liberation day panic. The administration is negotiating trade deals with at least dozens of countries including China. Native born employment is surging. Inflation is lower than projected. Federal spending is dropping. Reason editors look more stupid with every passing day.
Boehm is just having a tantrum.
Yeah. Nasdaq was +0.7 over the month during the collapsing economy. Been hilarious watching Boehms and sarcs predictions fail yet again. Then a better than expected jobs report with 90% private jobs.
Boehm is seething.
Reason, please fire this comm major pretending to be an economist. Kthx.
Yes Boehm, we should simply go back to your preferred Democrat version of ignoring all figure problems and issues that are not directly in your face until the consequences manifest with dire consequences only to blame others
Facing Reality
The majority of Americans prefer to deny reality; one example, about differences among the races and sub-races. Another is about the Constitution. It's moribund! It's slow spiral of death began in 1803 when the tyrannical and dictatorial fourth Chief Justice John Marshall unilaterally declared SCOTUS the ruler of the land and judicial review the law of the land.
Why now does the declaration become the issue of the day over an illegal alien and hoodlum from El Salvador? Because until recent decades the courts exercised judicial restraint. No longer!
Take Judge Boasberg. Please, somebody take him. (All credit to the late, very funny comedian, Henny Youngman.) A federal district judge declares himself the King and dictates foreign affairs.
Where in the Constitution does it explicitly grant illegal aliens all the privileges of citizens? It doesn't. Where it addresses the issue, it speaks of residents.
Is a criminal who entered the country illegally constitutionally a resident? Even if you take the affirmative, given Biden's egregious policies regarding immigration, we have a national emergency and not just at the southern border. Accordingly, is not the President in a position to declare that which is obvious and to impose martial law, thereby, over-riding any federal district court and even SCOTUS?
https://www.nationonfire.com/rebellion/ .
Guy down the street remarried. She had a storage room full of CCC. They held illegal garage sales three weekends in a row, hoping to make a dent in it. The rest went in a landfill.
I'd rather have a family sustaining job than the ability to buy endless amounts of cheap garbage.
"Nationalist" yes. "Republican" yes. "Conservative" not even close.
Yes, True and Honest Conservatives always conserve the liberal ratchet.
It's like you dopes don't even remember that Republicans were the party of tariffs for decades.
Reason's never gotten out the tag teaming for when the Democrats told you that you don't need cheap stuff.
Couple articles about the GND. net Zero. Etc. What was their response to Bernie's 'nobody needs 23 kinds of deodorant'? It wasn't a full court press.
Still don't know how many slaves Eric is comfortable with being used to produce cheap foreign goods.
Just remember folks: The "You don't necessarily need a choice of 23 underarm spray deodorants" guy was Bernie Sanders.
The people who want you (not them, never them) to be poorer are communists.
How are tariffs going to reduce the types of deodorant scents, you moron?
By at least making it more expensive to buy them from people who aren't paying Americans to make/supply/service them. At least in that case we know someone else in OUR society is making money, not spending it or creating debt. The fundamental principle modern libertardians and free marketers fail to understand, cheap stuff IS a zero-sum game. So you get a few cents or dollar cheaper shit, but all mid and higher paying jobs get exported to slaves in the 3rd world and now everybody is lucky to make better than minimum wage. (something these same types of deranged nitwits argue against as well)
Our society is gutted and on the edge of chaos economically after ~70 years of this type of nonsense. About the only thing unrestricted free market ideology (and trade market parasitism) has been successful at is keeping the door open for the economic left and communists/socialist.
Wasn't there a parallel in the 1920-1930 era in forcing artificially high prices for farm products?
That was due to the post-wartime drop in demand for agricultural goods, not tariffs.
Environmentalists suggest people live smaller to conserve resources and the MAGA tell them to MYOB. Republicans suggest people live smaller and MAGA says wow what a good idea.
Environmentalists want to shove everyone in pods in the city. That has no connection to promoting a budget-friendly lifestyle, no matter how much you're trying to conflate it.
But I realize you didn't know we're at record levels of personal debt, either, so that makes sense.
"5 Times the Trump Team Told Americans To Accept Being Poorer”
Who would have thought that Trump would prove be economically left wing?
Or who would have thought that Trump would prove to be the first politician to realize the consequence of left wing Biden-economics.
So many have cursed the way politicians are so ignorant of US Debt. Then a politician actually stops being ignorant and everyone cries.
How about a solution to the debate?
For those who are crying about loosing their Tax(or I mean Tariff) exemption how about they pay their Commie-Share of the national debt for $220,000 and then they can be Tax(or I mean Tariff) free again!
Sounds like partial Justice to me only becoming more justice by proportioning that bill according to those who voted for it.
Did Americans think their D.C. Nazi-Regime could SPEND, SPEND, SPEND, SPEND, SPEND and never go poor or what?
This is called gaslighting. It's a tool of the regime.
First two things Trump needs to do is stop gobbling on genocidal zionist ball sacs and to bring back the ability to chapter 7 student loans should one need to do so.
The MAGAts here are blindingly clueless about how half-assed this all is. There is virtually no value in simply raising the cost of stuff. Yes it raises tax revenues in the most regressive way possible. That is the only 'plan' here.
I see magic hand waving that somehow the US will somehow start making that stuff again. That would certainly be valuable. But it will not happen.
Japan and Germany are the two high income countries that still have a very strong manufacturing focus. They also both have strong apprenticeship programs to staff a skills pipeline. Very long term employment so that both employers and employees can get a return on training investment over many product cycles. They both have large numbers of manufacturing employees who live near enough where they work and don't have neighbors who don't want anything to do with anything industrial. The products are very high end and/or niche. They are NOT simple mass assembly line products.
We no longer have any of that. We never had the sort of craft/guild mindset that produces high end stuff. We were always just a mass assembly country with minimal investment in a labor force. It's why we quickly killed off manufacturing for cheaper labor. And once we did that - it's gone. An industry like autos cannot even make autos that anyone else wants anymore. We make mass assembly tanks that will never be exported. No matter how much our currency drops to make our manufactured goods competitive
We’ve been adding manufacturing jobs since 2010…a lot of the job losses had more to do the energy crisis from 2001-2009 when China was willing to poison their citizens with coal and diesel pollution along with displacing millions with hydro dams. The same thing applies to rare earth minerals which we should be importing as much as we can right now and then just recycle them in for our domestic supply chain.
We've added near nothing of importance. Here's the real data drill down on manufacturing jobs since 1979 (the peak).
The only subsector of manufacturing that has remained reasonably stable is food manufacturing. The only two others that haven't fallen off a cliff is petro and other chemicals. What the three share is that they are process industries. They are entirely about a big capital investment in machinery with goop going in and product coming out. They are not about skilled labor. Nor are we capable of fixing those machines or making new ones
It's no surprise that 1979 was the peak. That coincides with Volcker jacking up interest rates to save the dollar. THAT is what created the two recessions that killed the Rust Belt - and the change in our economy to financialize it all. That is the Faustian bargain we made to become the reserve currency again after Nixon closed the gold window.
The decline in the 1980s was because of 3 major factors with globalization maybe 10th of the factors.
1. Technological developments—Basic oxygen furnaces took down Youngstown and then Nucor took down Bethlehem and Allentown
2. Wyoming coal
3. Health care costs went up around 1980 and so coming out of the Volker recession it was cheaper for manufacturers to pay overtime than add another union member onto the inflation era union contracts.
Sounds like a lot of "how to squeeze orange juice from an apple".
Maybe 'Guns' (Gov-Guns) don't make sh*t ... Ya know like how apples don't make orange juice and endlessly trying to form some equation that'll make an apple make orange juice is precisely the problem.
I was living in the Rust Belt then. US auto makers lost market share because they made crappy land yachts. The boomers and older X - still single or childless - preferred Japanese econoboxes. Cheap, fuel efficient, well made. The UAW were rent seeking and the CEOs were protectionist thieves.
That dynamic was everywhere. The Rust Belt was allergic to innovation or quality at its height. Contemptuous of customers. They were riding the glory of the 1950s when everyone else in the world was still destroyed from WW2. Before the GATT rounds of 1964, 1973, and 1986 opened up global trade and lowered tariffs. Before the Plaza/Louvre Accords ensured the G6 would manipulate the dollar exchange rate.
Certainly it is not the fastest and best way to fix our problems.. They are best at defending industry, not bringing it back.. at least not alone. It needs to be coupled with aggre$$ive efforts to rebuild our industries. They could be an excellent way to help pay for that.
The question and favorite excuse against actually doing anything is tired and old. "who will build/create it" That is a nonsense argument. Our industry has an ~80 year history of doing exactly this, over and over again in 3rd world salve countries. Often in places without water and power. Building infrastructure as needed at scale. We are, in the same breath as whining about "who", are talking about doing it yet again in India! It's all utter bullshit. There is nothing at all keeping us from having industry and ability return. Just those who insist it impossible while openly planning to do the very same yet again somewhere else.
The government keeps borrowing money. Is there any reason to believe this does not "trickle down" to some degree? It's easy to be "rich" when you charge a large portion of your consumption to a credit card, but it is not wise.
^Perfectly worded +1000000000000000000.
"5 Times the Trump Team Told Americans To Accept Being Poorer"
"Trump's comment about how "dolls" will "cost a couple of bucks more" is the latest in a long trend of nationalist conservatives disparaging affordable stuff"."
One of these is not like the other, but it's a mistake made by a slimy TDS-addled pile of lying shit.
>to accept being poorer
Gee, it's almost like lubbertarians don't remember Jimmy "you vill wear zee sweater und you vill like it" Carter.
Add:
"Reduced Expectations and the California Budget"
[...]
"Shortly after Jerry Brown was first elected governor, nearly 40 years ago, he famously said, “This is an era of limits and we all had better get used to it.”
https://www.foxandhoundsdaily.com/2014/01/reduced-expectations-california-budget/
Gotta remember Moonbeam was a failed Jesuit and assumed everyone had a closet filled with hair-shirts. Hell, he managed to make Lind Ronstadt morose for some time, the asshole.
I don't know how much more poor Americans can be after the Obiden administration. Four years of hell, martial law lockdowns, destruction of tens of thousands of family owned businesses, two year without education and poisonous vaccines.
Four years of hell. Just imagine what it would have been like if Harris/Walz had won instead.
What society "losses" in a few extra cents on cheap 3rd world crap, it gains much more in not losing more mid paying jobs to slaves in the 3rd world. Our society has been slowly sold off, dismantled and made infinitely poorer over the last ~70 years of totally free market scorched earth lunacy.
Continuing down the same old path will deliver us to leftism and socialism/communism.. or worse, collapse!