Trump's War on the Press
The president is arguing in court that journalism he doesn't like is "election interference" that constitutes consumer fraud.

A month before last November's presidential election, 60 Minutes aired an interview with Democratic nominee Kamala Harris that was edited to make her response to a question about Israel "more succinct," as the show's producers put it. But Donald Trump, the Republican nominee, complained that "her REAL ANSWER WAS CRAZY, OR DUMB, so they actually REPLACED it with another answer in order to save her or, at least, make her look better." As Trump saw it, that was "A FAKE NEWS SCAM, which is totally illegal."
How so? According to a lawsuit that Trump filed against CBS in the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of Texas on October 31, editing the Harris interview to make her seem slightly more cogent violated that state's Deceptive Trade Practices Act and caused Trump "at least" $10 billion in damages. A lawsuit that Trump filed against The Des Moines Register on December 16 follows the same playbook, claiming the newspaper's coverage of an inaccurate presidential poll violated a similar Iowa law.
In both cases, Trump—the man now elected president—implausibly describes news reporting as "election interference" that constitutes consumer fraud because it misleads viewers or readers. It is hard to overstate the threat to freedom of the press posed by such reasoning, which transforms journalism that irks Trump into a tort justifying massive damage awards.
Although neither lawsuit is likely to make much headway, the cost of defending against such litigation is apt to have a chilling effect on journalism, which is what Trump wants. "We have to straighten out the press," he told reporters, explaining his motivation for suing CBS and the Register.
The lead defendant in the latter case is pollster J. Ann Selzer, who conducted a preelection voter survey for the Register that indicated Harris had a small lead over Trump in Iowa. According to that poll, which was released on the Saturday before the election, 47 percent of Iowa voters favored Harris, compared to 44 percent for Trump. Those results proved to be off by more than a little: Trump won Iowa by a 13-point margin.
Trump was outraged by the poll. "It's called suppression," he said at a rally in Pennsylvania the day after the Register reported that Harris had taken the lead in Iowa. "And it actually should be illegal."
In fact, it was illegal, Trump's lawsuit argues. It says publication of the erroneous poll's surprising results, which generated wide news coverage, amounted to "brazen election interference" that violated Iowa's Consumer Fraud Act.
Trump's use of that law, like his use of the Texas Deceptive Trade Practices Act, is plainly frivolous. Both laws are aimed at fraud that harms consumers by misleading them in connection with their purchases of products or services.
"You would have to prove that a false statement was made and that the statement was made" with the intent that consumers would "rely on it," UCLA law professor Rick Hasen told The Washington Post. "If someone is accurately reporting the results of a poll, that wouldn't be a false statement. The poll might have errors in it, but that wouldn't be a false statement." Hasen added that the lawsuit's "somersaults" do not plausibly connect Trump's complaints to the sort of commercial misrepresentations that the fraud statute covers.
Why bother then? "I'm doing this not because I want to," Trump told reporters. "I'm doing this because I feel I have an obligation to…..I shouldn't really be the one to do it. It should have been the Justice Department or somebody else. But I have to do it [because] our press is very corrupt."
As Trump sees it, the U.S. Department of Justice should be policing the press to make sure it is telling the truth. Exactly how that would work is unclear: What statutes, specifically, would authorize the Justice Department to sue or prosecute news outlets for reporting that Trump views as inaccurate or unfair?
More to the point, any such action would be clearly unconstitutional. But Trump thinks he can achieve similar results by filing his own lawsuits.
"Newspapers and polling firms are not engaged in 'deceptive practices' just because they publish stories and poll results Trump doesn't like," said Robert Corn-Revere, chief counsel at the Foundation for Individual Rights and Expression, which is representing Selzer pro bono, in a statement. "Getting a poll wrong is not election interference or fraud." Corn-Revere called the "absurd" lawsuit "a direct assault on the First Amendment."
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In both cases, Trump—the man now elected president—implausibly describes news reporting as "election interference" that constitutes consumer fraud because it misleads viewers or readers.
Oh my gosh, a known progressive filing lawsuits that likely won't go anywhere for the express purpose of making a point in the media about the problem he perceives with the issue?
Gosh, it's like you're only against it because now the bio says (R) after his name, Jakey Jakey News Is Fakey.
NGL, I stopped reading your asinine article after that. Because I knew it was going to be dumb and because I knew whatever you were going to say was going to be retarded.
Also, let's not gloss over this point:
60 Minutes aired an interview with Democratic nominee Kamala Harris that was edited to make her response to a question about Israel "more succinct,"
You are effectively DEFENDING THAT.
What is wrong with you, Sullum? Seriously, how is your brain THIS broken, and why are you not in a mental hospital for it?
JS has been fine with defamation suits against conservative individuals. Ironically he was even good with the 1.5B suit against Infowars, but likely doesn't think Alex Jones qualifies as a journalist.
But outside of infowars, JS believe the press and journalists are sacrosanct.
"Freedom of the press" is not about professional journalism per se, it's about the INDIVIDUAL right to publish.
I agree. As Volokh has written numerous times, the press refers to the printing press, not a nebulous press as an entity.
Codifying the individual right to amplify their message.
JS opposed Hogan's lawsuit against Gawker. Who only violated his privacy wholesale and ignored repeated requests to remove the content.
THAT was OK in JS's eye.
https://reason.com/2016/08/24/hulk-hogans-gawker-smackdown-threatens-p/
He also, mind you, was not an OUTLIER here on that issue.
He was just trying to protect his leftist buddies.
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The CBS interview with Harris has become a low point in journalism.
The question is: how many other news items have been seriously slanted or just plain made up?
Who fired the first shot?
I can agree that his rhetoric and some actions go too far. Sullum and the rest of the lying left-wing press HAVE engaged in election interference through their partisan in-kind campaign contributions. They have openly lied about just about everything. As much as I don't like the 1A implications of combating this politically, left wing journalists are the aggressors in this war and the primary actors. Maybe if they weren't such shameless shills for the worst people and priorities I might give a fuck that he's saying bad things about you.
Does the 1A go so far as to protect conduct that constitutes in-kind campaign contributions?
Does it or should it? I stopped reading quickly, but my guess is Sullum doesn’t actually argue against campaign expression laws, just that Trump is trying to use them.
Yes. Every Sullum article begins with the premise orangemanbad, and then expands from there.
Not only that, but in their attempt to subject other advocacy to campaign finance restrictions, while exempting "the press", i.e. established media?
Has that actually happened?
I mean they claimed a legal payment to a lawyer was a campaign violation.
The Clinton campaign admitted guilt.
Most campaigning restrictions are dubious under 1A. Yet “journalists” can do pretty much whatever they want to affect elections.
Poor Jacob. Just giving it up all shreds of credibility.
He could have dropped something libertarian, you know, for April Fool’s Day.
He had credibility?
This is classic Sullum. The argument for or against Free Speech is simple to make. But Sullum isn't actually writing a Pro-Free Speech article. He is writing an anti Trump article.
"It is hard to overstate the threat to freedom of the press posed by such reasoning, which transforms journalism that irks Trump into a tort justifying massive damage awards."
Let's be clear here: Trump is not complaining about Journalism that "irks" him. He is complaining about actual FRAUD. His claim is that both of these news stories were lies, because they reported "facts" that drastically depart from reality (e.g. a read of every other poll including the final vote, or a watch of Harris's actual remarks with 60 minutes.)- "facts" that you'd have to intentionally, maliciously overlook reality to report . This isn't about info that "irks" people- it is about info that is demonstrably untrue.
I think it is a legitimate question whether or not legit lying in the press should be punishable if it harms a person, or (say) leads a country into war where other people are harmed. I have my own opinions, but Sullum does not want to argue it.
Sullum's sole argument seems to be that because SULLUM doesn't think the cases have merit, that makes Trump a bad man. But that isn't news. We know Sullum doesn't like Trump. It's why he has changed Trump's argument about fraud to instead being about Trump attacking news that "irks" him. So rather than actually provide us with new content, we get Sullum's same old game: Take a quote, twist it to the most uncharitable reading possible, and then flay that new strawman alive.
Here is Sullum defending defamation for an obvious lie the other way.
https://reason.com/2023/05/10/8-reasons-why-e-jean-carroll-won-her-sexual-abuse-and-defamation-lawsuit-against-trump/
Always in the same direction.
God he’s just awful. From your link:
“But there are several explanations for the outcome that do not hinge on assuming the jurors were so biased against Trump that they were determined to side with Carroll, regardless of what the evidence showed.
First, this was a civil trial, meaning the verdict was supposed to be based on a preponderance of the evidence, as opposed to the much more demanding standard of proof beyond a reasonable doubt, which is required for a criminal conviction.”
Does this article mention if this is a civil trial?
Did it even meet a preponderance of the evidence?
She said he did it. None of her substantiating evidence backed up her claims. The whole case was "Trump is bad, so he is guilty". That's consistently enough for Sullum.
Her own offered evidence even disproved her claim. Her dress, for example, was made years after she claimed she was raped.
Even more fucked up the jury even said she wasn't raped but assaulted. After the court Carrol again went on CNN and claimed rape despite jury decision. The courts tossed out Trumps follow up suit on her claims.
Trump was literally found guilty for saying he didn't rape her which the jury literally agreed with.
Wasn't Trump prevented from showing that her claims mirrored an episode of Law and Order SVU?
That and that she had made rape allegations against multiple other people as well.
E.Jean Carroll spent too much time around Hunter S. Thompson and most likely took the same drugs and shared bottles of Crown Royal.
Her brain is burned out.
Not imo. Either way it just shows how much of a hypocrite Jake is.
Sullum and the press can't even defend free speech without being hypocrites. They all cheered the ruinous, punitive judgement against Alex Jones but now demand protection against their more numerous and more destructive intentional lies? Fuck that.
Sullum is a slimy pile of TDS-addled shit, ain't he?
“Take a quote, twist it to the most uncharitable reading possible”
Jeff == Jacob?
“According to a lawsuit that Trump filed against CBS in the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of Texas on October 31, editing the Harris interview to make her seem slightly more cogent”
Is the word “slightly” in the lawsuits claim, or did Jacob add it for spin?
TL;DR, but...like every elected official everywhere, in all history? And come to think of it, like anybody who has any opinion about anything?
60 Minutes absolutely edited the interview to protect their chosen candidate. That they regularly do it seems like a weak defense.
Trump's lawsuit was ridiculous, but corporate press makes for a very unsympathetic victim. They've deceived and manipulated us more than Trump.
His lawsuit relied on the wrong law.
There is definitely a case that CBS violated campaign finance laws.
1. How did CBS campaign finance laws?
2. In reality there really aren't any enforceable campaign finance laws any more.
JS - Why are you giving fringe, irrational ideas that will get no real traction any air time? Trump thanks you for the free marketing. As long as you keep mentioning his name, he remains relevant.
Jake raving about Trump has no bearing on Trump’s relevancy. He’s the president. It only affects Jake’s credibility. Poorly.
The guy is leader of the free world and the most dominant personality in pop culture for the last 10 or so years... I think he's relevant regardless.
That's why geniuses like шинка think he should be treated like Voldemort apparently. Don't talk about the devil or something.
I came here to propose that the article should be titled:
Trumps successful counter-offensive in the Press War against him
Can't expect a NeverTrump foot soldier like Jake to advance the enemy narrative.
Anonymous sources say Trump is a nazi.
Trump is relying on the wrong laws.
There is probable cause that CBS violated campaign finance laws.
CBS. CNNBS. NBCBS. NPRBS. JSBS.
NYTBS, WaPoBS, MSNBCBS...
"There are two things I live by: number one, I don't believe anything the government says and number two I don't take very seriously anything the main stream media says." George Carlin.
Interesting how Trump's defenders talk about how he's so wonderful for refusing to execute unconstitutional laws (laws they don't like) while praising and defending him weaponizing unconstitutional laws (laws that they like).
Trump's lawsuit should fail, but only because it relies on the wrong statutes.
There is a credible argument that ther alleged conduct violated campaign finance laws.
And the First Amendment does not go so far as to protect in-kind campaign contributions.
Editing an interview is a violation of campaign finance laws, which are totally constitutional. Sure, buddy. Whatever you say.
Just wondering, would you freak out if FOX News edited an interview with Trump to make him look better? I doubt it.
Editing an interview is a violation of campaign finance laws
It is when you deliberately do it to change the answer given to something else entirely, retard. It's an in-kind donation.
Correct.
Poor sarcbot.
Well so was paying a lawyer.
One more thing. How did this harm Trump? He won the election.
So?
If a fellow contestant deliberately trips you during a race but you go on to win anyway, does that mean the other contestant did nothing wrong and unsporting and shouldn't be punished by the race committee?
You have to remember, sarc has literally pushed every media formed lie for 9 years.
I made it 1 scentance before I knew what the retard would say
NBC "we deceptively edited an interview in order to make a horrible candidate look better in order to sway voters to it"
Js "this is not interference!"
Corn-Revere called the "absurd" lawsuit "a direct assault on the First Amendment."
That's exactly what it is. And it shows how neither Trump nor his defenders give two shits about the Constitution. Nor do they care that in the future Democrats will use government force to punish those who provides news, interviews or polls that they don't like, and it will be ok because Trump did it first.
Trumpism is a mental disorder.
Here's your attention, Sarc. Now go back to trolling 9gag for the rest of the day.
No, it is not.
In-kind campaign contributions are outside the scope of the First Amendment.
It is a civil matter and the courts will judge the merits accordiing to 1st Amendment jurisprudence. Why are you and Sullum getting this hysterical about it at this point?
The Stormy Daniel's payoff was adjudication based on it being a campaign expenditure and campaign interference. We have already been into the absurd on these kind of things.
That was also the objection to provisions of McCain-Feingold classifying press as in kind campaign donations which led to the Citizens United decision.
The interesting thing is for CBS to 1st Amendment protections they have to admit Citizens United was correctly ruled.
That Jacob can look at a decade of intentional lies and think "that is some fine journalisming there" just proves he's a leftist partisan hack with no underlying ethics, morals or intellect.
TDS-addled slimy pile of shit Sullum needs to get reamed with a barb-wire-wrapped broomstick.
Fuck off and die, asshole.
Negan's never around when you need him.
So novel interpretation of the law is a bad thing again?
This at least has logic behind it, and most importantly, this is civil law between corporate parties.
If it was a criminal prosecution, I would say that Trump was going too far. However, the civil courts are precisely where to start, and this is the most blatant case.
No rational person can look at the before and after and claim the interview was not deceptively edited. Trump is the only person with standing to challenge this clear falsification. He was clearly harmed by this. If this was any other situation other than an election, it would be a relatively easy case. Why in elections alone, where truth is most important, do we have the least protections against falsehood?
This also has a very easy defense for the future. Release all interviews unedited in addition to the slick version to fit into your timeslot. So the chilling effect is significantly minimized.
The shitbag Sullum has a sad.
When Trump does it it's ok. When anyone else does it it's lawfare. See the difference?
Novel interpretations of the law were literally used against him. Why shouldn't Trump be allowed to respond in kind?
Because nobody is supposed to stoop to the levels of shit the Democrats have plumbed?
The main stream or Legacy Media in America and throughout the west have become a useless joke for journalism. All of it, slanted far left, and bearing any real factual evidence to back up anything they publish, instead, publishes the kind of rubbish that one would have read in Pravda. The nightly news broadcasts are filled with inuendo and outright lies.
The fact that nearly all of those media hacks are owned by the CIA and what's worse, is they have been caught numerous times repeating verbatim, news items that someone obviously wants repeated. Almost word for word is noted from every outlet.
Is it any wonder the MSM has fallen to such disregard and loathing. CNN and MSNBC are at the bottom of the barrel. Anyone who gets their "news" from either of those two is obviously mentally challenged and completely brainwashed.
Thank you for this level headed call out of a clear threat to freedom of the press.
The First Amendment isn't the issue. If you walk into a bank and hand the teller a robbery note, you can't claim that your act was legal because of the First. Contrary to popular belief, freedom of the press is only tangentially related to professional journalism; it's an INDIVIDUAL right to publish, and it doesn't give you a pass to commit crimes.
What crime did CBS commit?
This is a civil suit retard.
They don't understand the difference between civil and criminal courts.
They're deliberately ignorant.
There is probable cause that CBS violated campaign finance laws.
Sullum is an idiot when it comes to anything Trump. The press lied with abandon, distorted the truth, omitted that which hindered the false narrative and misled the entire country. That is not the same as disagreeing with journalism you don't like.
>The president is arguing in court that journalism he doesn't like is "election interference" that constitutes consumer fraud.
Biden called is misinformation and misinformation and created a government agency to control media along with under the table coercion - at least Trump is open about it and going through the courts.
But you don't want to talk about the pee dossier and Hunter's laptop, you just want to Orangemandbad.
I do not understand that insistence that with Trump and Republicans in general that the MSM can do what it wants and 'free speech' means they just need to take it.