Deportation Standoff
Plus: Rehiring federal workers, using Signal to orchestrate bombing the Houthis, and more...

Tren de Aragua (and other) deportations continue: Yesterday, U.S. District Judge James Boasberg "ruled his temporary order will remain in effect, restricting new deportations [of accused Venezuelan gang members] until the men are given an opportunity to challenge their connection to the gang," reports Bloomberg.
Trump has invoked the Alien Enemies Act, which applies in situations when the country has "declared war" or is suffering an "invasion" or "predatory incursion" to deport suspected gang members.
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But this specific swat-down by the courts is important because this is the judge for whom a spurned Trump had threatened impeachment last week ("HE DIDN'T WIN ANYTHING! I WON FOR MANY REASONS, IN AN OVERWHELMING MANDATE, BUT FIGHTING ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION MAY HAVE BEEN THE NUMBER ONE REASON FOR THIS HISTORIC VICTORY," wrote Trump), before being swiftly rebuked by Chief Justice John Roberts. "For more than two centuries, it has been established that impeachment is not an appropriate response to disagreement concerning a judicial decision," said Roberts. "The normal appellate review process exists for that purpose."
The ruling by Boasberg states that each person being deported needs the opportunity to challenge the case against them. "Each vehemently denies being a member of Tren de Aragua," wrote Boasberg in his Monday ruling. "Several in fact claim that they fled Venezuela to escape the predations of the group, and they fear grave consequences if deported solely because of the Government's unchallenged labeling."
Indeed, new information has come to light suggesting that several deportees are not gang-affiliated at all:
All available evidence strongly suggests that at least one of the Venezuelans shipped to a monstrous prison in El Salvador for life has nothing to do with Tren De Aragua (though the refusal to allow hearings means all cases are uncertain).
Far worse, he was in the US legally: https://t.co/cTi6vgWn36
— Glenn Greenwald (@ggreenwald) March 23, 2025
Rehiring federal workers? Yesterday, the Trump administration submitted an emergency application to the Supreme Court, asking it to block a California federal judge's ruling that would order the rehiring of some 16,000 fired federal government employees.
First, the administration spends some time complaining about all the injunctions and temporary restraining orders used against it."Whereas 'district courts issued 14 universal injunctions against the federal government through the first three years of President Biden's term,' they issued '15 universal injunctions (or temporary restraining orders) against the current Administration in February 2025 alone,'" according to Acting Solicitor General Sarah M. Harris.
Then, the administration gets to the actual meat of why the federal judge's ruling should not be permitted to stand: "The [California] court's extraordinary reinstatement order violates the separation of powers, arrogating to a single district court the executive branch's powers of personnel management on the flimsiest of grounds and the hastiest of timelines. That is no way to run a government. This Court should stop the ongoing assault on the constitutional structure before further damage is wrought."
"Each federal agency has the statutory authority to hire and fire its employees, even at scale, subject to certain safeguards," wrote Judge William Alsup of the Northern District of California in his preliminary injunction. But the Office of Personnel Management does not have the authority to do mass hiring and firing of other agencies' employees, he argued. If Alsup's ruling stands, workers fired from the Pentagon, the Treasury, and the Agriculture, Energy, Veterans Affairs, and Interior departments would all have to be rehired.
Scenes from New York: Link to the complaint here.
I think this is likely the most explosive detail in the entire complaint. Three minutes BEFORE the start of the Oct 7th attack (approximately midnight NY time), Columbia SJP activated its months-dormant Instagram account. https://t.co/saSAWBVFAd pic.twitter.com/KbdU2xR2yO
— daniela (@daniela__127) March 25, 2025
QUICK HITS
- Senior officials in the Trump administration are reportedly using Signal to plan bombing campaigns on the Houthis…and accidentally adding the editor in chief of The Atlantic. Wild and weird story that raises questions about whether these officials are taking national security seriously enough.
— Benjy Sarlin (@BenjySarlin) March 24, 2025
- The Israeli military "is focused on killing senior Hamas administrators who were not previously viewed as high-priority targets, signaling to Hamas that Israel will not allow the group to retain control of Gaza," per The New York Times. Though a full truce looked possible earlier this winter, Hamas—which has "governed" the Gaza strip for nearly 20 years, if you want to call it that—wants to remain in power, and Israel has vowed not to let this happen.
- Highly recommend Ezra Klein's interview with one of my good friends, Santi Ruiz, for a levelheaded take on DOGE. An excerpt: "[Office of Management and Budget Director Russell Vought] says if you want to get into welfare, if you want to cut Social Security, if you want to tell people you're cutting Medicare and Medicaid, you have to start with the other stuff that doesn't seem as close to home, with the stuff that's, you know, the comic books in Peru about wokeness or whatever. You have to cut that stuff out first, and you have to hold up the bloody head before you have popular interest and willingness to go with you to the stuff that touches their families. I think that's definitely the view of some people in DOGE—that you have to zero out the stuff that isn't going to make a huge difference, because that's the only way popularly you'll be able to say: Look, we really mean it. We're not just taking you to the cleaners, we're making the government smaller. Period." (More Ruiz on DOGE here.)
- Pretty insane deportation incompetence and chaos:
Two female immigrant detainees say in court declarations they were sent by the U.S. to El Salvador but were later returned to the U.S. because the maximum security prison there, CECOT, does not detain women.
One of them was also rejected because she's Nicaraguan. pic.twitter.com/XQGZoijBpI
— Camilo Montoya-Galvez (@camiloreports) March 24, 2025
- "Abundance, the new book by Ezra Klein and Derek Thompson, accomplishes something important by giving liberals something new to apologize for," write Joe Weisenthal and Tracy Alloway for Bloomberg. "Liberals can apologize for their fetish for rules and procedure, which undermines the very values they espouse. Ground zero for their Abundance story is California, a state dominated by Democrats who talk a big game about their enlightened beliefs and yet have (we're told) created a non-egalitarian society, where the basic necessities of life are increasingly beyond the reach of most people." But Weisenthal and Alloway aren't totally convinced that the Klein/Thompson narrative is correct and point out a bunch of critical areas they miss or call incorrectly.
- In case you missed it: new Just Asking Questions with Kelsey Piper, the shockingly libertarian writer for Vox (seriously!):
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I think McGregor has a puncher’s chance of beating these charges.
Saying you want to leave the EU is far worse than saying you want to destroy western civilization. Lock mcconner up. Give Khalil a medal of honor.
So McGregor isn’t down for the count?
Opponents are trying to keep him pinned in the corner.
No, but Lucy Westenra is.
Oh, Mina, you're so bad.
We need an excerpt, it's paywalled.
Oh, look at that.
Populist Conor McGregor declares he's going to run for President of Ireland, and right away the globalist Nazis are cooking up charges that they say will disqualify him.
Just like with Trump, just like with Imamoglu in Turkey, just like with Le Pen in France, just like with Georgescu in Romania, just like how the EU is looking to charge Italy's Meloni and Hungary's Orban with anything, just like how they successfully banned Brazil's Bolsonaro.
These Nazis will stop at nothing to cement their corrupt little global takeover, and don't give a flying fuck about the will of the people.
If you don't want to protect democracy by banning icky candidates, you're a fascist.
#Democracy is so much easier for you guys when we have already picked the candidate for you.
Time for the gloves to come off.
"Democracy with guardrails"
#ManagedDemocracy
"we have already picked the winner of the election for you."
Yesterday, U.S. District Judge James Boasberg "ruled..."
...yet again that the imperial presidency is only a myth.
It’s more like an imperial bureaucracy than presidency.
Think of it like Iran which has a religious council authorized to overrule any action taken by the elected government. If you're a leftist the religious council rulings are Democracy.
Makes sense, since progressive politics is a religion (with Old Testament brutality tendencies).
There is no divine justice in progressive politics.
But, but, but....Judge Boasberg made a constitutional crisis!
You know who else made a constitutional crisis...?
Aaron Burr?
The Framers?
The inventor of the auto pen?
Ex-Lax?
+2
Not if Trump succeeds in getting Boasberg impeached. You'd oppose impeachment, right?
Ironically implies others are hypocritical while exposing his own hypocrisy. Never change shrike.
Need me to go over this judges long list of political rulings? The most egregious being no jail time for Clinesmith. Followed by sentencing 70 J6ers for a crime the USSC ruled wasn't a crime? For approving Trump apsign FISA warrants?
The legislature would impeach, shrike.
You'd oppose impeachment, right?
Phony impeachments based on evidence that actually exonerated the plaintiff and implicated his accusers... twice? Yes.
A impeachment for a illegitimate, illegal and deliberate violation of the constitution to help out your political party? No.
You clowns really don't think your arguments through, do you? "Hurr durr, you oppose arresting people for saying the Covid jab don't work, but you don't want spree killers released from jail".
Pants on head retarded.
Yes, based on the facts presently known, I would firmly oppose impeachment of Judge Boasberg.
That could change as more facts become known.
Second. Not to mention, it would be a colossal waste of time and energy, since no Senate Democrats would ever help get to the impeachment threshold. But there mind come a time and set of evidence that warrants filing the charges.
Isn't boasberg they guy that let an fbi agent who falsified evidence walk? Also doesn't his daughter rake in millions from usaid to bring in illegals?
Yes and yes. But it’s Trump’s fault judges with clear conflicts of interest won’t recluse themselves.
Tomato, banana.
Has any private citizen been hurt by law enforcement falsifying evidence?
Yes.
There is no evidence of that.
That there is no evidence because we refuse to look for any evidence is irrelevant.
"Unless you have hard evidence and a document trail that will stand up in court, the police and journalists shouldn't bother investigating allegations" -
t. Reason
For more than two centuries, it has been established that impeachment is not an appropriate response to disagreement concerning a judicial decision...
It's a new world. The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the impeachments of patriots & tyrants.
So you're saying we're halfway done and now we just need to impeach some tyrants?
Yesterday, the Trump administration submitted an emergency application to the Supreme Court...
The Supremes are already going to go into that hearing in a bad mood at having to actually do something.
How dare they complain about all the injunctions.
It’s not like Elena Kagan has called it a threat to democracy
“It just can't be right that one district judge can stop a nationwide policy in its tracks and leave it stopped for the years that it takes to go through the normal process,”
Ahem. (D)ifferent.
Again, tomato, banana.
This will piss off jeffsarc.
U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD) Secretary Scott Turner and U.S. Department of Homeland Security (DHS) Secretary Kristi Noem today signed the “American Housing Programs for American Citizens” Memorandum of Understanding (MOU), to end the wasteful misappropriation of taxpayer dollars to benefit illegal aliens instead of American citizens.
https://www.hud.gov/press/press_releases_media_advisories/hud_no_25_046
Another KKK racist turns out to just be a hoax.
Whats the hoax rate on these at this point? 90%?
https://redstate.com/wardclark/2025/03/24/allentown-city-employee-caught-in-noose-hoax-faces-charges-n2187046
I'd bet a dollar that more liberal blacks can make nooses better than your average white supremacist.
It's a skill passed down throughout Democrat generations.
it's definitely at the point where every single swastika or noose reported found, i assume it's a hoax
Actually the swastikas are all of the sudden not hoaxes, but the Nazi foot soldiers are too stupid to realize how they’re being manipulated.
This time it's not Democrats putting up Nazi symbols to prove that they are victims of hate, it's Democrats putting up Nazi symbols to prove that they are victims of hate. *Insert "Spidermans pointing at each other" meme here*
No matter how one slices it, it's always Democrats masturbating to Nazi symbols.
If I see someone painting a swastika on anything I know that they are a democrat, no exceptions.
That is no way to run a government. This Court should stop the ongoing assault on the constitutional structure before further damage is wrought.
Ha! Constitutional crisis, indeed.
Send the Executive Branch to time-out?
Three minutes BEFORE the start of the Oct 7th attack (approximately midnight NY time), Columbia SJP activated its months-dormant Instagram account.
Boom.
Free Speech!
Now it turns out Khalil was a member of UNRWA, the UN group that was basically Hamas in UN clothing.
That sounds like a whole lot more than just vocal, one-way support for terrorism.
But their violence is speech.
Maybe they were accidentally added to a Hamas war planning group chat.
Oli London
@OliLondonTV
UK issues Travel Warning for citizens travelling to the U.S.
The UK Foreign Office cautions British citizens:
“You may be liable to arrest or detention if you break the rules.”
Germany has also issued a similar warning to citizens.
Apparently it is an alert when the US starts enforcing laws and regulations against foreigners.
No more laissez faire football hooliganism tolerance in the States.
Ahem, that’s “soccer”.
Will you accept footie?
I prefer footsie.
Regardless, still a sad sport where the fans are tougher than those on the field. If you did the amount of acting in hockey that they do in soccer, you’d be in the emergency room for real the next time.
Millwall backup keeper Liam Roberts disagrees:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=U8ChmWAvO4U&pp=
Can’t be heard but the Millwall fans began chanting, “Let him die”
How about fruitball?
Kick-ball? I think we played that in 3rd grade.
Better name for the sport. Football is where you run the ball on foot. See the ancestor of both called Rugby aka Rugby football.
They should also issue a travel warning to people going to London. It's quite stabby there
And if you get raped by anyone darker than "Hazelnut" it's just cultural differences and you were asking for it.
People might just jerk off on you, so wear a rain slicker!
Is it better or worse for you if you call it a Mac?
Mac and cheese?
Nothing wrong with that.
— Lying Jeffy
Getting fired from a government job is something you eventually get over, just like you get over being raped.
https://reason.com/2025/02/20/cutting-8-percent/?comments=true#comment-10925896
If you complain about it on social media, you are jailed.
But they might feel bad about doing it, and so should be excused.
Senior officials in the Trump administration are reportedly using Signal to plan bombing campaigns on the Houthis…and accidentally adding the editor in chief of The Atlantic.
You give a guy exclusive transparency and this is the thanks you get?
I found it more amusing that they’ve been saying the same we have regarding Europe and their freeloading.
That was pretty telling. Hope the europeans take notice.
What are the odds of a deliberate leak?
I wonder about that, too.
What kind of staffer's assistant would covertly add a journalist disguised as a different staffer? Someone is, or employs, a Democrat #resist type. Find the fuggo with blue hair and xe/xim pronouns.
Europe isn't freeloading here. We are the ones choosing to protect shipping to Israel in response to a war that they have restarted (for their domestic politics reasons) after a ceasefire. This is not a NATO responsibility and in fact it is Israel that is happily'freeloading'.
Further, whatever benefits accrue to taking on a role that the US bullshittingly calls 'policing the world' and freedom of navigation - accrue to the US. It is the US dollar that is the reserve currency. Not anyone else. Not a surprise that the morons in the Trump administration don't understand that. Nor do they even understand the connection between the US in permawar status and the US dollar as reserve currency.
""We are the ones choosing to protect shipping to Israel in response to a war that they have restarted""
A more open minded person would understand we are trying to keep those shipping lanes safe for all ships traveling through it.
https://www.bairdmaritime.com/security/incidents/piracy/factbox-summary-of-houthi-terror-attacks-on-merchant-ships-in-the-red-sea
But J(ew)free isn’t exactly open minded.
J(ew)Free is definitely re
started though.Well at least you cite a link with real info so I will respond.
First - before the ceasefire, IOW - during Biden's term - there were three different naval actions to protect Red Sea from Houthi attacks. One was US led and included some NATO countries (UK, Denmark, Canada, Norway) and some Asian. One was purely EU and included Belgium, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Italy, Latvia, Netherlands and Sweden So - why would JD Vance be completely unaware of previous naval actions against the Houthis? Of speeches that HE MADE that might lead to Europe flipping him the bird with any future requests? Not that that matters since this Signal was a PLANNING 'chat' (ie BEFORE any post ceasefire attack) and no Europeans were even invited to it so why would they know about it or have already involved themselves in it. This statement is pure childish shit from a mindblowingly incompetent and vile Vance.
Second - I already said, ALL benefits for general 'freedom of navigation' actions accrue EXCLUSIVELY to the US. If you don't understand a reserve currency and why others would use that currency as a reserve, then read something informative (not ideological bullshit). So unless those others are protecting their flagged ships or their ports or their cargoes, any actions they take re 'freedom of navigation' is entirely a favor to the US. Trump and the people on that call have spent the last couple of months shitting on every ally we used to have. They ain't going to be doing favors for the US for DECADES. We have no more allies. That is apparently the intention. Wait until you see what happens when those assclowns on that call pull us into war with Iran.
But it's more than just shipping to Israel. Right?
The Houthi target? Of course. It is also ships owned by Israelis (regardless of flag) and ships trying to sneak through that strait with their AIS turned off (which is illegal and dangerous but it is or was one of the first 'disguise' tactics used). Houthis also added ships from companies that traded a lot with Israel even if the individual ships didn't. eg Maersk ships American weapons to Israel via Gibraltar but not the Red Sea. So the Houthis chose to attack Maersk shipping in the Red Sea.
Regardless the Houthis have not been randomly attacking ships. I don't like what they are doing but it is absolutely not random Somali style piracy or random terrorism of shipping. It is a military response against Israeli logistics. They stopped when the ceasefire went into effect. Sstarted back up when Israel started back to the starvation strategy (a few days before they militarily violated the ceasefire)
This is not a European problem
Oh. Israel restarted it? It wasn't the bombings of the busses, the rockets, or not returning the hostages?
Remember when hundreds of Jews parachuted across the border shot up whole villages, dragged the mutilated bodies of Palestinian women through the streets while shrieking Jews screamed "Jehovah is great!", and then took hundreds of women and children as young as newborn hostage and treated them worse than farm animals eventually beating them to death?
J(ew)Free does. That's why our rabid antisemitic Nazi can inveigh against them here.
For the sake of argument let's assume for a moment that they did start it. It would still NOT justify the holding of hostages.
I never said it does justify hostages. But get real here - Netanyahu did not restart the war to get hostages back. Israelis understand that even if Americans don't. Netanyahu doesn't give a shit about hostages. His right wing allies are even more explicit about that - with Smotrich saying on the day the ceasefire was broken that hostage families talk too much (before he had them kicked out of a Knesset meeting). Hamas was in fact waiting for Israel to appear at the negotiations for stage 2 of the ceasefire (where all remaining hostages would be released). As agreed in the ceasefire. Let me repeat - as already agreed. Israel never showed because they never intended to go to stage 2. Instead they decided they wanted all hostages released in stage 1 so that they could immediately restart the war. Netanyahu restarted the war for his own domestic politics purposes. All very well understood in Israel and everywhere else except America.
It is pointless trying to inform Americans of ANYTHING that is going on in that region and with this war. Americans are the most colossally - and deliberately - misinformed population I have ever seen. And I have lived in totalitarian countries. So since it's pointless - I'll stop trying.
“….,since it’s pointless - I’ll stop trying.”
Lol. Oh god, please let this be true. You are so fucking boring.
Wait, is this gonna be like a sarc “I’m hardly ever here anymore” kinda thing?
Lol.
"deliberately - misinformed population I have ever seen
You might want to look in the mirror there, champ. Whether it's Covid, J6 or the Jooz, everything you pushed in the last five years turned out to be a lie. With more documentary and video evidence to contradict you than any other time in history, and yet you still refuse to believe that you've been tricked.
"But get real here""
Not until they release the hostages.
Now you are back to stupid American.
Netanyahu does not give a shit about the hostages. His goal for decades has been to ethnically cleanse (or kill) Gaza of all Gazans. That has been the goal of Likud since the 1920's. And this war is that opportunity
Releasing the hostages is irrelevant to that goal. And the fact is that when the war finally stops, Netanyahu will lose his job, his power, and go to prison for corruption. THAT is more important to Netanyahu than the hostages.
So not only are the hostages unimportant, releasing them increases the chance that Israelis will decide the war is over and it's time for Netanyahu to lose power and go to prison
You’re deeply mistaken. Israel has undergone temporary ceasefires for the promise of getting hostages back. That's not a sign of Netanyahu supposedly not caring, in fact it's the opposite.
You are an antisemitic liar, J(ew)Free. Repent of your evil ways.
Please move to Gaza. And take this pager and walkie-talkie with you.
JFree, do you have a pager? Just asking for a friend.
I think his pager kept blowing up.
Do they know who added the editor to the group? That person should be fired.
Purportedly Mike Waltz.
I read that "they" are saying it was an aide now. It's anonymous turtles all the way down.
Aides are a common source of leaks. That moves my needle some on whether this was an intentional leak.
I do not buy it. Jeffrey Goldberg is notoriously dishonest.
This.
Goldberg is the journalist who deliberately lied about the connection between Saddam Hussein and Al Qaeda.
In 2002, Goldberg's article "The Great Terror," published in The New Yorker, argued that the threat posed to America by Saddam Hussein was significant and linked him to Al Qaida. This was used in congress as a justification for the Iraq War.
Wiki: Glenn Greenwald called Goldberg "one of the leading media cheerleaders for the attack on Iraq," saying Goldberg had "compiled a record of humiliating falsehood-dissemination in the run-up to the war that rivaled Judy Miller's both in terms of recklessness and destructive impact"
Goldberg has always been the establishment and the CIAs mouthpiece and is totally willing to lie for an agenda.
Goldberg also originated the Trump soldiers lie.
That's right, but apparently he had a reliable "anonymous" source.
His ass?
On Thursday, America First Legal (AFL) released explosive new documents obtained through ongoing litigation against the U.S. Department of State’s Global Engagement Center (GEC), exposing a vast, government-backed censorship operation to silence Americans under the guise of “misinformation,” “disinformation,” and “malinformation.” The documents reveal a disturbing alliance between the GEC, the U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID), the British Foreign, Commonwealth, Development Office (FCDO), and media censorship organizations, all working in lock-step to manipulate public discourse, control media narratives, and suppress free speech.
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/usaid-censorship-scheme-exposed-global-engagement-center-worked-uk-government-and-media
Weren't we told this is all fine because ultimately it's "private companies" doing the demands government cannot.
Yes. Until the evidence became so insurmountable that even the NYT had to pretend to be against it letting reason pretend the same.
No, it was (D)ifferent! They wuz defending (D)emocracy back then! The Cauliflower told us so. You cannot despise the MSM or Fed bureaucrats enough.
Private companies, get over it.
— Jeffsarc and Reason
Democracy with guardrails. Also barbed wire fences, attack dogs, mine fields, and machine gun towers.
Wild and weird story that raises questions about whether these officials are taking national security seriously enough.
They just wanted Europe to know they talk shit about them even while helping them out.
Courts keep ruling to allow schools to secretly transition kids despite us being told this doesn't happen.
https://legalinsurrection.com/2025/03/court-says-school-can-secretly-social-transition-12-year-old-student-to-opposite-sex/
And here again, as in Foote v. Ludlow, the court grossly mischaracterizes the true nature of “social transitioning.” The cases we’ve covered all make clear: secret social transitioning—starting with using students’ preferred names and pronouns—puts the child on the path to permanent, life-altering medical transitioning. It’s not just a matter of etiquette.
But the school wasn’t required to tell the mother it was applying its “civility code” to sex-transition her daugher, because the mother had no right to that information, the court concluded. “Simply put,” if she didn’t like it, “she remained free to exercise her parent rights at home” —“whether through direct conversations, private educational institutions, religious programming, homeschooling, or other influential tools,” the court held.
White Mike and Jeffy continuously told me that this wasn’t happening. They wouldn’t lie to us now, would they?
Were they speaking?
"religious programming"
Like Davey and Goliath?
Veggie Tales.
Gaaaaayyyy
https://bucktee.com/product/gay-test-if-you-see-spider-man-ive-got-bad-news-for-you-shirt
Lol.
People who tell children to keep secrets from their parents are child molesters.
""Simply put,” if she didn’t like it, “she remained free to exercise her parent rights at home” ""
What if a parent said I teach my kid gun safety at home. The fact that my kid shot up the school is the school's problem.
We may have to kill some judges.
Hanging, drawing and quartering, tar and feathering, the rack, impalement, rat torture, iron chair?
BTW, this secret transitioning has also happened in the Peoples Republic of NJ.
The Israeli military "is focused on killing senior Hamas administrators who were not previously viewed as high-priority targets, signaling to Hamas that Israel will not allow the group to retain control of Gaza...
Lol. Was that in doubt?
Isn't killing people who declare war on you the whole point?
Not if they have a green card through a false application.
https://justthenews.com/accountability/political-ethics/hldjudge-who-blocked-trump-deportations-took-junket-event-anti
U.S. District Court Judge James Boasberg attended a privately-funded legal conference in Idaho that featured sponsors and speakers who have expressed clear anti-Trump sentiments -- particularly on immigration -- and a theme that echoed the Democrat Party’s 2024 stated mission of saving democracy, according to a judicial ethics report.
Boasberg was one of nine Democrat-appointed judges and three Trump nominated jurists to attend the conference in ritzy Sun Valley, where two of the four sessions were titled “Role of Judges in a Democracy” and the “State of Democracy," the report shows.
Judges attending conferences to discuss how they can "protect democracy" from Trump.
Attendees run the gambit of anti trump discourse from calling him a fascist to Hitler.
A ban on special interest judicial junkets following Just the News revealing that Judge James Boasberg attended a privately-funded conference with an anti-Trump organization last year.
Just the News reported Sunday night that, months before he blocked President Donald Trump’s deportations of illegal alien gang members, Boasberg attended a privately-funded legal conference in Idaho that featured sponsors and speakers who have expressed clear anti-Trump sentiments — particularly on immigration and January 6th — and a theme that echoed the Democrat Party’s 2024 stated mission of "saving democracy." Federal judicial ethics rules currently allow such junkets.
https://justthenews.com/government/courts-law/problem-boasberg-attending-anti-trump-orgs-event-spurs-calls-ban-judicial
https://ecf.dcd.uscourts.gov/cgi-bin/show_public_doc?2025cv0766-53
Here's a radical idea. There is his legal opinion. Critique it.
It's not as fun as attacking him personally no doubt. Or his wife. Or his daughter. But his wife, daughter and legal conference in Idaho didn't write this opinion.
Here's an actual question. Boasberg and Kavanaugh were apparently roommates at one time when both were at Yale law school. Do you think the right wing smear machine will demand Kavanaugh recuse when this case eventually reaches Sup Ct?
I have. So has Trump. So has bondi. So has Rubio.
Did you read those not a lawyer?
The irony is the USSC has already ruled on this during Truman and this judge is not following the precedent of that ruling. Were you aware of this not a lawyer?
I don't think you understand how precedent works. When cases have the same facts; then a previous ruling's holding should be binding to apply to same facts and compel the same legal result. When the facts are different, then the previous case is not binding.
This invocation of the Alien Enemies Act is very different than previous iterations. You change the facts, you don't always get the same legal outcome. And since you don't name a case, I can't be more specific. But in the past, people were allowed to challenge a) whether the AEA was still operative (i.e, there was a declared war) and b) the person was able to challenge if they were subject to it.
Neither of which is happening now as the govt conceded at oral argument yesterday. Where they argued, on the record, if the DC Circuit lifts the TRO, the govt believes they don't have to give notice to anybody under the proclamation that they are subject to it and they can immediately restart removing them to El Salvador.
Well that's weird. You try to describe precedence as requiring the exact same facts when that is not what it holds. See how lower courts keep using USSC precedent to stop various gun laws.
What you ignore is the USSC giving almost exclusive discretion to the executive in that case. The opposite of what Boasberg is doing.
I also notice you didn't say you read the petitions from Bondi or Rubio. Almost like you're an activist not a lawyer.
Did you learn to always appeal to political inferior court judges in your not a law class?
Likewise the TRO is almost expired and now the argument is about an injunction.
This is the judge who ruled Clinesmith should get no jail time for forging evidence because losing his job was punishment enough lol.
Ahhhh, Clinesmith. The proof that the government cannot be trusted with secret courts.
>When cases have the same facts; then a previous ruling's holding should be binding to apply to same facts and compel the same legal result. When the facts are different, then the previous case is not binding.
Wow, that's not how precedent works. I thought you were a lawyer.
An Act Respecting Alien Enemies
SECTION 1. Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, That whenever there shall be a declared war between the United States and any foreign nation or government, or any invasion or predatory incursion shall be perpetrated, attempted, or threatened against the territory of the United States, by any foreign nation or government, and the President of the United States shall make public proclamation of the event, all natives, citizens, denizens, or subjects of the hostile nation or government, being males of the age of fourteen years and upwards, who shall be within the United States, and not actually naturalized, shall be liable to be apprehended, restrained, secured and removed, as alien enemies. And the President of the United States shall be, and he is hereby authorized, in any event, as aforesaid, by his proclamation thereof, or other public act, to direct the conduct to be observed, on the part of the United States, towards the aliens who shall become liable, as aforesaid; the manner and degree of the restraint to which they shall be subject, and in what cases, and upon what security their residence shall be permitted, and to provide for the removal of those, who, not being permitted to reside within the United States, shall refuse or neglect to depart therefrom; and to establish any other regulations which shall be found necessary in the premises and for the public safety: Provided, that aliens resident within the United States, who shall become liable as enemies, in the manner aforesaid, and who shall not be chargeable with actual hostility, or other crime against the public safety, shall be allowed, for the recovery, disposal, and removal of their goods and effects, and for their departure, the full time which is, or shall be stipulated by any treaty, where any shall have been between the United States, and the hostile nation or government, of which they shall be natives, citizens, denizens or subjects: and where no such treaty shall have existed, the President of the United States may ascertain and declare such reasonable time as may be consistent with the public safety, and according to the dictates of humanity and national hospitality.
SEC. 2. And be it further enacted, That after any proclamation shall be made as aforesaid, it shall be the duty of the several courts of the United States, and of each state, having criminal jurisdiction, and of the several judges and justices of the courts of the United States, and they shall be, and are hereby respectively, authorized upon complaint, against any alien or alien enemies, as aforesaid, who shall be resident and at large within such jurisdiction or district, to the danger of the public peace or safety, and contrary to the tenor or intent of such proclamation, or other regulations which the President of the United States shall and may establish in the premises, to cause such alien or aliens to be duly apprehended and convened before such court, judge or justice; and after a full examination and hearing on such complaint. and sufficient cause therefor appearing, shall and may order such alien or aliens to be removed out of the territory of the United States, or to give sureties of their good behaviour, or to be otherwise restrained, conformably to the proclamation or regulations which shall and may be established as aforesaid, and may imprison, or otherwise secure such alien or aliens, until the order which shall and may be made, as aforesaid, shall be performed.
SEC. 3. And be it further enacted, That it shall be the duty of the marshal of the district in which any alien enemy shall be apprehended, who by the President of the United States, or by order of any court, judge or justice, as aforesaid, shall be required to depart, and to be removed, as aforesaid, to provide therefor, and to execute such order, by himself or his deputy, or other discreet person or persons to be employed by him, by causing a removal of such alien out of the territory of the United States; and for such removal the marshal shall have the warrant of the President of the United States, or of the court, judge or justice ordering the same, as the case may be.
APPROVED, July 6, 1798.
https://www.archives.gov/milestone-documents/alien-and-sedition-acts
Speaking of Truman. Are referring to Ludecke v. Watkins? In that case Ludecke was held the day after we declared war on the Japanese but not deported until after the war in 1946.
Trump seems to be using the "predatory incursion" instead of act of war. Therefore not like Truman at all. Also according to the text, the predatory incursion must be done by a foreign nation or government.
""or predatory incursion shall be perpetrated, attempted, or threatened against the territory of the United States, by any foreign nation or government,"
Also, Section 2. allows for judicial review.
""SEC. 2. And be it further enacted, That after any proclamation shall be made as aforesaid, it shall be the duty of the several courts of the United States, and of each state, having criminal jurisdiction, and of the several judges and justices of the courts of the United States, and they shall be, and are hereby respectively, authorized upon complaint, against any alien or alien enemies, as aforesaid, who shall be resident and at large within such jurisdiction or district..."
Btw, even with Truman, Ludecke got his day in court.
In that case the plaintiffs tried arguing that use of this law was limited to strictly war time. The justices ruled the powers of those were broader and executive discretion was deemed paramount.
The statute portends to aliens. Interpreted to include criminals and terrorists. Not just foreign soldiers, as seen in usage under Truman. The Trump administration has declared TdA a foreign criminal organization and falls under the case.
The reason Ludke got his day in court was from fighting the statute. The judgement was he could not. It was not a fight over his status as falling under the clauses jurisdiction, but whether it applied to the war time basis of it. Not the same.
The act is clear about what it allows.
""That whenever there shall be a declared war between the United States and any foreign nation or government, or any invasion or predatory incursion shall be perpetrated, attempted, or threatened against the territory of the United States, by any foreign nation or government,""
If a president tries to amend the act via EO then it becomes challengeable in and of itself as presidents cannot write law.
Trump did not issue an EO. He issued a proclamation as required by the statute. By the administration's interpretation the proclamation is fully compliant with the law. He did not amend the law.
Not referring to the proclamation required. But what the law says must happen before the proclamation can happen.
There is no declared war by Congress. No invasion or incursion by a foreign nation or government.
So what is his justification for the proclamation?
""In that case the plaintiffs tried arguing that use of this law was limited to strictly war time.""
Which was moot because he was detained during wartime.
"Each vehemently denies being a member of Tren de Aragua,"
Duh. Which of them are going to say "yep, I'm in the gang, send me to prison."?
The classic shaggy defence, works every time
Wasn't me
No one is ever wrongly accused or misidentified.
So never arrest anyone?
That's not what I said.
That's better than just shouting ZOINKS and running away.
Did you read about the declaration from one of the targeted deportees who was an asylum seeker whose asylum was predicated on escaping from Tren de Aragua? Getting sent to torture death camp with the gang you were fleeing (and seeking asylum) from must be particularly nightmarish.
There are 7 countries between Venezuela and the U.S., pick one of those to seek asylum.
And those asylum seekers could’ve gone south instead of north.
No, no, no, no...
Sure Manaus, a city with eleven million people and the fastest growing economy in Brazil, lies immediately to the south. Sure there's LG, Nokia, Samsung, Siemens, Sagem, Gradiente, and BenQ-Siemens mobile phone manufacturing plants in Manaus. Sure Essilor also has a plant here. Sure the Brazilian sport utility vehicle manufacturer Amazon Veiculos is headquartered in Manaus. Sure aircraft manufacturers have plants there. Sure it has fishing, fruit, Brazil nut and cattle farming. Sure it has petroleum refining, soap manufacturing, and chemical industries.
But the weather in Chicago in winter is nicer, and Manus doesn't have free food, clothing, housing, internet, cell phones, healthcare and a $2k a month allowance.
They speak Portuguese in Brazil. Not Spanish. He couldn't be expected to live like that.
That's like the difference between Scottish and a New York accent so I can see the problem.
Upper Midwest English and a Venezuelan patois are much more mutually intelligible.
If there is one thing we know about cartel members is they never lie. Also as mentioned many other countries existed for his asylum claims.
Hey, they swore it on their mother's grave.
To whom they just killed.
He probably should have stayed in the any number of safe spanish-speaking countries he passed through on the way to the US.
...that you have to zero out the stuff that isn't going to make a huge difference, because that's the only way popularly you'll be able to say: Look, we really mean it.
The system is fighting tooth and nail to preserve "the stuff that isn't going to make a huge difference" so I can't imagine the forces that will come to bear when DOGE actually does try cutting something.
Thing is, the stuff Doge has been going after create and maintain the power and disbursement structures. That is why the system is fighting tooth and nail (claw?) over it.
Why are you against 9 month olds getting 100k loans from the SBA?!?
And that is a better reason to tackle this incestuous government-NGO-woke bullshit first, especially destroying the propaganda mechanisms.
There are billions of dollars at stake here, and the swamp critters have been riding the gravy train for many, many years.
They are going to fight tooth and nail to avoid having to find an actual job.
Only billions? Pfft, that's practically zero. Better just ignore it. -sarcjeff
Every gambler knows that the secret to survivin' is knowin' what to throw away.
Hope:
Dept of Ed, they fought long and hard to keep schools closed and the cash printing for covid. Look at them now.
And their favorite Best Union Friend President Ever went tits-up.
before being swiftly rebuked by Chief Justice John Roberts. "For more than two centuries, it has been established that impeachment is not an appropriate response to disagreement concerning a judicial decision," said Roberts. "The normal appellate review process exists for that purpose."
It should be noted this statement was made from his personal account as he did not enter the statement through the usual court mechanisms, the statement was not put into court systems. Showing he likely had disagreement from other justices.
Roberts was also warned by 4 Judges, such as Alito, when he refused to stop a TRO ordering immediate dispersement of billions of dollars.
Likewise the judicial branch has no say on article 1 impeachment powers.
“It just can't be right that one district judge can stop a nationwide policy in its tracks and leave it stopped for the years that it takes to go through the normal process,” - Elena Kagan 9/14/2022
Saw Bill Barr on Fox news this morning. He pointed out that the findings of a district court judge don't even bind another district court judge down the hall presented with the exact same facts but with different parties. And that even an appellate court ruling only binds the states within that circuit. Really hard to see how Roberts can chart some middle path here. He can't delay the reckoning for much longer.
Pretty sure it was Boehm who inferred that Roberts' statement was aimed at Trump.
The (alleged, possible, probable) gang members can challenge their affiliation with TdA from their home country. Deport, deport, deport.
Judge: "fine, you're not TdA. But you were still not legally here. Case dismissed."
The only reason they ended up in El Salvador was Venezuela was not allowing repatriation. They now are. They relented after TdA was sent to ES.
Ship them to Sarcasia!
We provide billions in welfare to anyone crossing the border, taken from citizens. But dont worry, we do this while claiming we don't want this system, so we are libertarian.
We've always been at war with Sarcasia.
I thought we were at war with Chemjeffsia?
Isn't that where the Tom Hanks character caught in the airport was from?
I thought that was Pluggistan.
Two female immigrant detainees say in court declarations they were sent by the U.S. to El Salvador but were later returned to the U.S. because the maximum security prison there, CECOT, does not detain women.
The previous administration left in shambles the definition of what a woman is, so what can you do.
Apparently CECOT has a staff biologist.
Please stop trying to push Vox and Ezra Klein on us. I know they are desperate as their profit loss funders are starting to pull funds so they can't stay afloat, but there is nothing libertarian about them.
Next you’ll be complaining about Slate and MSNBC. You Christofascist
MSNBC is high comedy at least. Vox tries to take themselves seriously with voxplanations.
Seriously, linking to young adult infotainment site Vox is no different that linking to Teen Vogue. What's next, Tiger Beat?
Well, this is already Teen Reason.
LiberTeen Magazine
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Lighten up Francis.
I'm getting too old for this shit.
Arrrrmy training, sir.
Why do we have courts anyway? All they do is get in Trump's way. Same with elections. He should just do away with both. And why have a legislature? He should be able to just make up the law as he goes along.
Man, you just start with the strawmen early, don’t you?
And fermented straw koolade.
Poor sarcbot.
The sarcbot desperately needs an upgrade.
Ok there Drunky McHomeless Loser. I’m gonna start a GoFundMe to get you a life size, tall, cop-looking Jesse doll. You can put it in the center of your Jesse shrine. When you are scared, you can punch it.
Thank God you didn't go sexual for the last sentence.
I removed this final sentence from the actual post:
Then it can later mount you and complete your disturbing fantasy.
Thanks. Now I'm gonna be sick.
Hell, we’ll even pay for shipping and handling.
Methinks sarc will take care of the handling part.
Jeez, and hear I though Mahmoud was just guilt of tresspassing and violating the civil rights of others. Sounds like he and his group had advanced knowledge in the planning of a terrorist attack. Maybe he shouldn't have fought the deportation because he may have an extradition hearing now.
For a publication that supposedly wants to end a bunch of these departments you sure are giving favorable coverage to the forced spending to retain these departments and all their bloat.
Well, it is an interesting and important question what the proper role of the courts is here. Also what the proper powers of the president are. I don't think it's right to say Trump can just do whatever he wants with any executive department. Nor do I think it's right that any rinky-dink district judge can delay or stop implementation of any executive order. So there's a lot to consider here.
First step is stopping nationwide injunctions for inferior Courts. At least 4 justices agree with that.
Sounds about right. The present situation is absurd.
You are telling me this man is Tren De Aragua?
Maybe, I don't know. What does a criminal look like? Jeremy Meeks takes a nice photo, and he was a Crip.
Mobsters wore suits!!! How could they be gangsters??
Banksters wear suits
Fair. Not a good comparison.
Meh. Anybody can steal money. Now creating money out of thin air requires a much higher aptitude for evil. And probably a college degree.
I thought you just had to be 25 years old and be a citizen of America.
Not that faggot SBF.
How about Jodi Arias?
Subway Jared
Ted Bundy
Just because a dude dreams of being a makeup artist doesn't mean he's not currently working a day job as a brutal gang enforcer.
Killer Mike sold drugs before he made it big in music.
https://nypost.com/2014/09/16/gangs-ditch-colors-remove-tattoos-to-avoid-authorities/
Now a judge has blocked a 15% cap on overhead for federal grants. This is getting ridiculous.
For another example of how the judicial “resistance” to Team Trump reforms manages to seize the moral low ground, consider federal Judge Angel Kelley’s blocking of a 15% cap on taxpayer coverage of “indirect costs” tacked on to National Institutes of Health grants for university research.
Kelley (a Biden appointee, natch) complains this would be disruptive — yet this scam cries out for disruption.
https://nypost.com/2025/03/23/opinion/trump-15-cap-on-grant-costs-will-spark-the-reform-the-academy-needs/
So the standard has changed from unconstitutional or illegal to "disruptive".
When dealing with unprincipled people the standard will always be whatever it needs to be to justify the conclusion. See any discussion with Jeffsarc for examples.
Dude, in the canon of Establishment Law, disruption of the state IS illegal.
It's unconsitutional for the executive branch to limit overhead costs on grant programs.
When The Twilight Zone Imagined Fascism in America in a 1963 Episode Starring Dennis Hopper
.......
“How do you move a mob, Mr. Vollmer? How do you excite them? How do you make them feel as one with you?” Hitler asks. The answer, which he then provides, is first to join them: “When you speak to them, speak to them as if you were a member of the mob. Speak to them in their language, on their level. Make their hate your hate. If they are poor, talk to them of poverty. If they are afraid, talk to them of their fears. And if they are angry, Mr. Vollmer… if they are angry, give them objects for their anger. >/B>But most of all, the thing that is most of the essence, Mr. Vollmer, is that you make this mob an extension of yourself.”
If accused of scapegoating minorities, he should address the throng thus: “Should I tell you who are the minorities? Should I tell you? We! We are the minorities.” Soon, we see Peter in full neo-Nazi gear delivering just such a harangue, thoroughly Hopper-ized in diction, to a modestly attended rally. How could these ordinary-looking attendees be a minority? “Because patriotism is a minority. Because love of country is the minority. Because to live in a free, white America seems to be of a minority opinion!” Though hardly artful, this rhetoric eventually makes him into a popular figure, albeit one whose rise is cut short when he turns to conspiracy to accelerate his rise to power.
https://www.openculture.com/2025/03/when-the-twilight-zone-imagined-fascism-in-america-in-a-1963-episode-starring-dennis-hopper.html
#LiberalHollywood
turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
Twilight Zone is leftist.
You and Pluggo are pathetic.
Poor sarcbot.
“When you speak to them, speak to them as if you were a member of the mob. Speak to them in their language, on their level. Make their hate your hate. If they are poor, talk to them of poverty. If they are afraid, talk to them of their fears. And if they are angry, Mr. Vollmer… if they are angry, give them objects for their anger."
Sounds like standard leftist strategy since forever.
AP searches for a sympathetic 'victim group' in the hopes of gaining traction, sends up this trial balloon:
"Military veterans are becoming the face of Trump’s government cuts and Democrats’ resistance"
[...]
"From layoffs at the Department of Veterans Affairs to a Pentagon purge of archives that documented diversity in the military, veterans have been acutely affected by Trump’s actions. And with the Republican president determined to continue slashing the federal government, the burden will only grow on veterans,.."
https://apnews.com/article/trump-doge-veterans-64722f96984f1b730fea88278f6bc93f
Well, some of those people might be veterans, but they sure look like swamp-creature bureaucrats to me.
"The Israeli Philharmonic plays Israel’s national anthem, Hatikvah, in San Francisco
Outside, a mob gathered to protest the presence of Israeli musicians."
[...]
"“The antisemites harassing Jews at the San Francisco Symphony today are no different from those antisemites of the 30s and 40s, with the same tactics and intentions.
Their goal is to make life uncomfortable for Jews wherever they are.”
https://www.newsrael.com/posts/itfxp54rsy
I always love to imagine if the teams were reversed for something like this . Imagine the Tranny Orchestra of Australia was playing and the MAGA hats were burning rainbow flags outside the performance.
The people harassing jews and spray painting swasticas are the good guys
Republicans are making the same mistake they made in the first Trump administration. They are failing to hold Trump to high standards. Republicans knew that Pete Hegseth was unqualified to be SOD but confirmed him anyway. Now we see that Hegseth is unqualified and incompetent. Trump is the Republicans President but supporting him also means hold him to better standard than they have as of late.
Hegseth is unqualified and incompetent.
Maybe he was just drunk.
turd, the ass-wipe of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
Maybe you got your account banned for posting child porn links here.
I just got an email from Kamala Harris. The subject line was, I kid you not
Absolutely hammered
KamalaHarris.com
kamalaharris.org
From: contact@e.kamalaharris.com
One $5 contribution, please.
That is what Kamala Harris is asking you to donate to the Democratic National Committee today.
Democrats have no standards. Why should Trump? Besides, holding Trump to standards would mean questioning him and being disloyal. That comes with career-destroying consequences. So everyone around him is shutting up and doing as they are told.
Ah yes, a strawman with a side of projection from Sarc.
Good thing we've never seen democrats accidentally include people on email chains, have insecure servers, etc.
How is he unqualified buddy? Not trans enough?
We are not just talking about any Democrat we are talking the SOD. BTW - Got any citation for what you are saying and don't try the Hillary Clinton line because her server never got hacked.
Peter Hegseth was a light weight with drinking and womanizing problems. Republican knew this and should have refused to confirm him.
don't try the Hillary Clinton line because her server never got hacked.
Here's another example of left wingers changing standard to reach the conclusion they desire. A server is secure or not based on the security enabled, not base on whether it was actually hacked.
In fact though we don't even know whether it was actually hacked since she never turned it over for evaluation.
So your defense is 2 anonymous sources that were rebuked publicly by over a dozen as your source for incompetence.
And I like how you have to try to set parameters for comparisons because you know you're full of shit.
But how about Joe sending classified docs using an alias to Hunter?
Also a few things from Jennings on CNN you probably didn't hear on Maddow last night.
@amuse
@amuse
SIGNAL: Scott Jennings just dismantled the Atlantic’s hit piece by laying out the facts. The Signal app was already installed on several devices and agency computers when officials arrived—indicating it was already in use. Messages even reference switching to “high side” classified systems, showing they understood the line between unclassified chat and secure communication. There’s also debate over whether the term “war plans” is being sensationalized. Bottom line: the policy was smart and well-executed. It achieved what the Biden administration wouldn’t—stopping hostile actors from threatening our ships and sailors. Credit to the Trump administration for correcting a dangerous failure.
https://x.com/amuse/status/1904374229593624894
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SIGNAL: The Biden Administration authorized the use of Signal as a communication platform, asserting that it complied with presidential recordkeeping requirements—a practice that was later maintained during the Trump Administration.
https://x.com/amuse/status/1904518121597104322
Cynical Publius
@CynicalPublius
OK, I have been talking about this Atlantic/Signal thing all day, as have a ton of other X people.
I think it's time to take a deep breathe, step back, and list only those things we objectively KNOW to be true, with certainty:
1. Jeffrey Goldberg was somehow invited to a Signal chat with America's national security leaders, and then wrote an article about it in The Atlantic.
2. The portion of the chat that Goldberg revealed included zero classified information and merely reflected thoughtful, unclassified coordination between those same leaders.
3. Goldberg wrote that part of that chat was a discussion about how certain classified information would be shared on "the high side" (i.e., classified IT systems) and not in the chat.
4. Goldberg further wrote that the chat included information that HE believed could "conceivably" be classified, but he did not show any of that information.
5. Jeffrey Goldberg is a notorious Trump hater who has repeatedly participated in outrageous anti-Trump hoaxes such as "Trump/Russia Collusion" and "suckers and losers."
That's it. THAT'S ALL WE KNOW FOR SURE.
Everything else is speculation.
That's where we stand in terms of objective reality. Now let the chips fall where they may.
What a surprise, Goldberg lies about what was said.
No one will ever notice the retraction later.
Regarding #2. Some people are calling it war planning. I disagree. There was discussion but actual war planning would be classified.
Somewhere I read Goldberg said he didn't believe it until bombs dropped. If he received the war plan. He would have known the timing and assets used.
""Hillary Clinton line because her server never got hacked.""
Not getting hacked would not excuse Hillary actions. Anthony Wiener's laptop had way more stuff on it than what this reporter got.
Whomever added the reporter should be fired. If you are believer that responsibility, go to the top, then fire Hegseth too.
I've never understood the not qualified argument. Especially from people who have never served a day in their life.
Hegseth isn't the one who included this Atlantic editor on their group chat.
No, he was the dofus that brought actual war plans to the group chat. A chat outside secure circles.
I do not believe Goldberg. Independent corroboration would be lovely.
Per Intel Slava Z regarding Goldberg’s claims
The authenticity of the correspondence was confirmed to the journalist by the press secretary of the US National Security Council, Brian Hughes:
"This appears to be a genuine message chain and we are investigating how your number was accidentally added to it."
From the way people liked to leak in the Trump admin, remember the first term? I would not be surprised if someone added Goldberg on purpose.
Find who added Goldberg and fire them.
This is what I've thought all along. It was intentional leakage.
I don’t know. My FSB sources are just sharing the screenshots, that statement, and what Goldberg claimed. Signal is known to be compromised so they should not have been using that.
Whoever added the journalist, provided that turns out to be the case (and it looks like that with the available info), they should be suspended with consideration for termination. If it was Waltz, that should apply. Regardless if intentional or accidental.
Isn't Signal one of the encrypted apps?
"they should be suspended with consideration for termination. If it was Waltz, that should apply. Regardless if intentional or accidental."
Yep.
My milintel acquaintances are adamant to stay away from Signal for security reasons. The concern was that the US Govt had compromised it. Perhaps not an issue for the USG, though other branches snooping might not be welcomed.
Telegram was deemed more secure at least until Durov was detained by France (he’s now out of there).
""The concern was that the US Govt had compromised it.""
NCIS needed a backdoor?
The allegation is the CIA created Signal. The link I have requires registration to view the story so it got pulled.
""The allegation is the CIA created Signal.""
Well they probably own every VPN company too.
Suspended? Wtf. Everyone on that call should be sent for training in what top secret means, how govts make decisions to conduct war, and what the cost of compromised wartime intelligence is in terms of dead Americans. Those who should have known better (Defense, NSA, DNI) should be fired .
Idk whether people here did Model UN in high school. I did and this reminds me of that level of naivete and incompetence. A bunch of high school incels playing war planning and trying to get into Tulsis panties with emojis and moronic commentary
What call?
What top secret info?
Be specific.
The chat released literally talks about discussions going to the high side dumbass. That's where the classified information is discussed.
Wtf. Everyone on that call should be sent for training in what top secret means, how govts make decisions to conduct war, and what the cost of compromised wartime intelligence is in terms of dead Americans. Those who should have known better (Defense, NSA, DNI) should be fired .
Compare this to left wingers defending Hillary, Obama and the rest of the Dems who knowingly shared classified information on unsecure servers for most of a decade.
Looks like a resignation may be forthcoming soon.
Zero Hedge also spent ink on this:
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/dems-explode-over-leak-secret-war-plans-signal-chat-heads-should-roll
Not familiar with the source so take with a grain of salt:
So the person who supposedly added the journalist to the Signal group chat, Alex Wong, was an attorney for Covington & Burling, one of the law firms that Trump included in his EOs about government contracts and security clearances.
Interesting.
https://x.com/listen_2learn/status/1904551173488586788
Reuters and India Today report that Wong was given a task within the chat; could be rando on Twitter misinterpreted that. And if Wong was on a “no security access list” by proxy, why would he be tasked with setting up a secure chat with those folks regarding an attack on the Houthis?
We likely won’t get the whole story.
President Trump reportedly just weighed in on it:
https://www.rt.com/news/614759-trump-reaction-waltz-yemen-leak
They didn't actually discuss war plans though.
They had a discussion about whether or not to do a war and the political issues surrounding it.
""that brought actual war plans""
Obviously you don't know what actual war plans look like.
Wrong.
I see a SecDef successfully killing Houthis. What do you see?
What do you need to be a qualified SOD?
Would 30 years experience as an officer in the military and being a GOFO be experienced? Because the last couple of guys had that and they accomplished precisely dick.
The outgoing SOD was a GOFO and accomplished exactly zero when it comes to fixing the widespread and systemic problems of the US military. He fixed not a single thing. Made progress on fixing not a single thing. Even if you say fuck them junior enlisted and push aside the QOL issues, he made no progress on unfucking the Constellation, deployments, procurement, nothing.
Hegseth may not accomplish much. He may actually even do harm. But right now he's shaking things up and making the GOFO's squirm and that's doing more useful work than any SOD since I joined in 1990.
What standard did you hold Biden too? The 'its ok, he's senile' standard?
.Now we see that Hegseth is unqualified and incompetent.
Shitlib4ever has spoken!
'Indeed, new information has come to light suggesting that several deportees are not gang-affiliated at all'
This reminds me of the classic philosophical clash about crime and punishment. Liberals say "better that 10 guilty people go free than one innocent person is wrongly punished". Conservatives say the opposite. If we only had a perfect process, right?
Great point. Presumption of innocence and due process are leftist. Courts are leftist too because they keep trying to thwart Trump. Best to just get rid of it all and let Trump do whatever he wants.
Fuck off and die, you pathetic pile of lying lefty shit.
Unless the target is on a progressive list of predetermined guilt, right? A man accused of rape, a rich person accused of theft, or a conservative politician accused of anti-democracy are all presumed not just guilty but evil.
And they like the inverse, too, when anyone from an oppressed group just CAN'T ever be guilty.
But sure, let your TDS control your brain.
'Indeed, new information has come to light suggesting that several deportees are not gang-affiliated at all'
Because their mommies said so? How about something more convincing?
How good was the evidence that they were gang affiliated?
How good was the evidence they were here legally?
Again, the primary reason they were even sent to ES was Venezuela wasnt allowing repatriation.
I don't think US is subservient to Venezuela policy. They'd be locked up here if not in ES.
I don't know.
Were they legally entitled to be here?
I have never heard liberals say they want 10 guilty to go free to protect one innocent. Rather we hear that you're guilty by association.
Yeah, classical liberals would say that. Today's "Liberals" aren't liberal at all. They're Leftist shit-eaters who love swastikas, hate Jews, and think that cosplaying as "antifa" will shield them.
10 to 1 is WAY too low of a ratio.
"Massachusetts frees illegal alien child rape suspects on low bail as Mayor Wu doubles down on sanctuary laws"
Jose Fernando-Perez, an illegal alien from Guatemala, was charged with three counts of forcible rape of a child and three counts of aggravated rape of a child. ICE arrested him in February after a court ignored the agency's detainer request, releasing him on "pre-trial conditions" in October 2022. WBZ reported that Fernando-Perez posted $7,500 bail with an order to remain at home.
"you have to start with the other stuff that doesn't seem as close to home"
Nothing says how serious you are and how much you really, really mean it (!) like letting a socialist judge in California stop you in your tracks nationally with an injunction.
'Senior officials in the Trump administration are reportedly using Signal to plan bombing campaigns on the Houthis…and accidentally adding the editor in chief of The Atlantic. Wild and weird story that raises questions about whether these officials are taking national security seriously enough.'
Or deliberately "leaking" wild and weird stuff to mess with people?
'Ground zero for their Abundance story is California, a state dominated by Democrats who talk a big game about their enlightened beliefs and yet have (we're told) created a non-egalitarian society, where the basic necessities of life are increasingly beyond the reach of most people."'
Seriously, the enlightened global elite, with their mash-up of socialism, environmentalism, and DEI for thee but not for me, have to end up pushing Neo-feudualism as the proper basis for world society. California is not quite there, but give them another decade or two.
created a non-egalitarian society,
Conservative dogma says that "Trickle Down" eventually enriches the poors.
It does a better job of it than a welfare state does, overall.
the poors in america today are richer than any other group of bottom quintile earners in the history of the world.
Not even close. Among rich countries, the US has the lowest %of the population that is middle class (relatively and in PPP terms) and the lowest quintile is not only low (relative and absolute) but has also stagnated for 35 years.
I know MAGA people here are mostly just bigots and white alt-right trash. But Trump won because he got votes of working class and poor who have been shat on for decades. They know their own lives. Votes that would have been D for a long time before the D's went identity politics.
I would have thunk people here would understand that. They didn't votes Trump because they are better off than any time in history. Nor are the poor huddled masses of Euroland yearning to breathe free here. We get the poor huddled masses of shithole land
Among rich countries, the US has the lowest %of the population that is middle class (relatively and in PPP terms) and the lowest quintile is not only low (relative and absolute) but has also stagnated for 35 years.
This is why left wingers specifically desire illegal immigration even beyond just their votes. Without mass importing uneducated people who are therefore massively overrepresented in the bottom quintile our economic performance would be harder to misrepresent as stagnant. It's like constantly throwing cold water in one pot and complaining that pot takes longer to boil than others.
Are you retarded?
First, in many, many surveys over many years, almost all Americans describe themselves as middle class.
Second, any statistical distribution of income shows a huge range, with a mean around $100k, a median around $70k, and a mode around $40k. You can define upper-middle-lower in any honest way and end up with at least 50% of households in the "middle".
Now if that offends your hard core egalitarian religion, fuck off.
Finally, you are especially stupid about the bottom quintile, which will always be the bottom quintile. But as plenty of actual data show, most people in the bottom 20% do not stay there (and people who will be there 10 years from now are currently in a higher tier).
You are simply making assumptions about the distribution of income. Wrong ones. There has been a hollowing out of the middle class. Period. That is measurable if you care to measure that. Indeed you seem to get that but don't understand that as the mean, median, and mode of the distribution diverge, that means the middle class is getting hollowed out and the distribution is getting bimodal not normal. Polls are worse than useless.
Maybe you think that all them Trump voters are just giddy about their economic progress over the last few decades. No reason at all for some populist outrage about the status quo.
Again I repeat most MAGA commenters here are simply bigots. Trying to conflate Trump's economic message with his ethnic alt-right anger. That has been an R theme for decades. Tax cuts for billionaires being the only economic message Rs have. That is NOT Trump's economic message that got votes. Do you seriously not understand that?
There has been a hollowing out of the middle class. Period.
Reason has demonstrated this is because more people are becoming wealthy. That's why left wingers are panicking.
Just how fucking stupid are you?
It’s Pluggo, therefore, extremely fucking stupid.
We’ve yet to find that depth.
>If Alsup's ruling stands, workers fired. . .would all have to be rehired.
Then the agency heads can just fire those already fired.
That's what I'm not understanding. If the OPM doesn't have the authority, but the department heads, that Trump installed, do, why can't they each just issue a memo saying those terminated employees are fired under the authority of the department heads?
I believe that's true and the judge admitted it but he's a judge and must be obeyed however futile his orders.
>Hamas—which has "governed" the Gaza strip for nearly 20 years, if you want to call it that
So . . . *who* is responsible for the 'open air prison' then?
>You have to cut that stuff out first,
Yeah. No shit. That's what some of us here were saying while Reason was whining that this cut was too small or that cut wasn't really important or as large as claimed.
I've always figured that is what the plan is (although the complete disruption of the liberal NGO money-laundering operation is a nice side benefit). You can only start to cut into the muscle once everyone is sure there is no fat left.
In all the chatter on this, I wish people would stay focused on the key take away that WE ARE ALREADY BROKE! Sure, funding xyz may sound like a good thing, but not to the point I want to go further into debt over it.
>"Liberals can apologize for their fetish for rules and procedure, which undermines the very values they espouse.
Another person who doesn't understand liberals.
Liberals don't have a 'fetish for rules'. They want power. To have power you have to exercise power. To exercise power you need rules. Rules are the tool, power is the value.
Not just rules. Vague arbitrary rules that can be interpreted however you want to interpret them at any given time.
Did you really think we want those laws observed?" said Dr. Ferris. "We want them to be broken. You'd better get it straight that it's not a bunch of boy scouts you're up against... We're after power and we mean it... There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. Who wants a nation of law-abiding citizens? What's there in that for anyone? But just pass the kind of laws that can neither be observed nor enforced or objectively interpreted – and you create a nation of law-breakers – and then you cash in on guilt. Now that's the system, Mr. Reardon, that's the game, and once you understand it, you'll be much easier to deal with.”
Never gets old or irrelevant.
""One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. ""
"Three Felonies a Day"
https://reason.com/podcast/2016/06/15/harvey-silverglate-overregulation/
Bill Maher reveals his plans for his upcoming meeting with Trump at the White House – and what he’ll wear
'I’m not going to dress like Zelenskyy,' Maher joked on his 'Club Random' podcast
https://www.foxnews.com/media/bill-maher-reveals-plans-upcoming-meeting-trump-white-house-what-hell-wear
Peanuts - this will be a real shit-show.
Two huge egos, Trump lying and talking over Maher, but the ratings will be great.
The only shit show here is you and your constant lies, Turd.
>Two female immigrant detainees say in court declarations they were sent by the U.S. to El Salvador but were later returned to the U.S. because the maximum security prison there, CECOT, does not detain women.
>One of them was also rejected because she's Nicaraguan.
1. How were they to know they weren't women - do they have a staff biologist available?
2. Why would they be returned to the US instead of sent back to their countries?
"Each federal agency has the statutory authority to hire and fire its employees, even at scale, subject to certain safeguards," wrote Judge William Alsup
The constitution provides "safeguards" for the job security of federal employees, it's right there in the constitution.
I think it’s important to know who felt bad afterwards:
“BREAKING:
Shockingly lenient sentence for the ringleader of a rape gang of up until 17 young migrant men that raped a 12-year-old Austrian girl.
The 18-year-old Afghan asylum seeker was sentenced to 15 months' probation and a fine on USD 1000. He will stay out of prison.”
https://x.com/visegrad24/status/1904589023022063976
How many of them just jacked off?
We just have to respect the fact that their wonderful culture doesn't say it's wrong to gang rape a 12-year-old girl.
Translation: we are so consumed with delusional white guilt that we will eagerly jump off the cliff to allow our immigrant "guests" to take over our nation.
Deport members of TdA by all means. But don't deport people who aren't, and Having Tattoos While Hispanic is not (yet) a crime.
"Each vehemently denies being a member of Tren de Aragua," wrote Boasberg in his Monday ruling. "Several in fact claim that they fled Venezuela to escape the predations of the group, and they fear grave consequences if deported solely because of the Government's unchallenged labeling."
Perhaps some are outright lying. But unlike some of the sociopaths who regularly post here, I do not believe in blithely ignoring the possibility of innocence just because you don't like the guilty. There should be some minimum evidentiary safeguard more than just, "the Executive says so".
Tell us which of the Trump or his legal teams you didn't defend again. Also the non violent J6 protestors. I don't think that's what you actually believe shrike.
Regardless of gang affiliation, they are all illegally here and therefore reportable. They got moved to el Salvador solely because Venezuela wasn't allowing repatriation flights. So take it up with your socialist allies.