Trump Administration Deports Alleged Venezuelan Gang Members Despite Court Order
The White House invoked a rare wartime law to deport alleged Venezuelan gang members to El Salvador, sparking a legal battle.

The Trump administration has deported hundreds of alleged Venezuelan gang members to El Salvador under a rarely used wartime law, bypassing normal immigration procedures and possibly defying a federal judge's temporary ban on the move.
Salvadoran President Nayib Bukele confirmed the arrival of the deported on Sunday, posting images on X of men in handcuffs being escorted from a plane to buses and a prison.
"Today, the first 238 members of the Venezuelan criminal organization, Tren de Aragua, arrived in our country," Bukele wrote. He also declared that 23 members of the Salvadoran gang MS-13, including two high-ranking leaders, were also sent to El Salvador.
On Friday, President Donald Trump signed an executive order invoking the wartime Alien Enemies Act of 1798 to bypass immigration procedures and expedite the removal of foreign nationals deemed a threat. The order applied to all Tren de Aragua members over the age of 14 who were not U.S. citizens or permanent residents.
The Alien Enemies Act has been used only three times in U.S. history—during the War of 1812 and in both world wars. The Trump administration justified its use by framing Tren de Aragua as an organization effectively at war with the United States.
"Over the years, Venezuelan national and local authorities have ceded ever-greater control over their territories to transnational criminal organizations, including [Tren de Aragua]," Trump's statement read. "The result is a hybrid criminal state that is perpetrating an invasion of and predatory incursion into the United States, and which poses a substantial danger to the United States."
The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) and Democracy Forward immediately challenged the deportations, initially seeking to block the removal of five Venezuelan men under Trump's proclamation before broadening the case to cover all those affected.
"The Alien Enemies Act cannot be used during peace time for regular immigration enforcement," ACLU lead counsel Lee Gelernt told NPR. "Congress was very clear in the statute that it can only be used against a foreign government or foreign nation. It has never in our country's history been used during peacetime, much less against a gang."
Late Saturday, U.S. District Judge James E. Boasberg issued a 14-day temporary restraining order halting the deportations. "Any plane containing these folks that is going to take off or is in the air needs to be returned to the United States however that is accomplished," Boasberg directed during the hearing. "Make sure it's complied with immediately."
But during a break in the hearing, a flight carrying Venezuelan gang members reportedly took off. It was about an hour and 15 minutes from landing in El Salvador when the judge's order came through.
"Oopsie…Too late," posted Bukele on X, adding a smiley face emoji. Secretary of State Marco Rubio retweeted Bukele's post.
The Trump administration has denied that officials intentionally defied the court order, arguing that the deportees had already left U.S. airspace when the ruling was issued. The Justice Department, which immediately filed an appeal against the order, submitted a two-page filing to Boasberg on Sunday afternoon, claiming that "some gang members subject to removal under the Proclamation had already been removed from United States territory under the Proclamation before the issuance of this Court's…order."
White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt defended the administration's actions, dismissing Boasberg's ruling as overreach. "A single judge in a single city cannot direct the movements of an aircraft carrier full of foreign alien terrorists who were physically expelled from US soil," she wrote on Sunday.
Boasberg has scheduled a further hearing for later today. Meanwhile, ACLU and Democracy Forward attorneys have requested sworn declarations from the Department of Justice to clarify whether the flights took off before or after the court's ruling.
Bukele stated that the prisoner transfer was the result of discussions last month with Rubio. The deportees were sent directly to El Salvador's Terrorism Confinement Center (CECOT), a 40,000-person megaprison Bukele built as part of his crackdown on gangs.
CECOT has faced widespread criticism over alleged human rights abuses, overcrowding, and lack of due process. It remains unclear what specific charges the Venezuelan deportees will face in El Salvador or what legal jurisdiction U.S. courts may still have over them.
In exchange for accepting Venezuelan prisoners, El Salvador will receive financial compensation from the U.S.; the precise amount remains undisclosed. The exact number of deportees is also uncertain—while Bukele reported 238, Leavitt claimed that nearly 300 were sent.
While the Trump administration asserts that all deportees were gang members, any verification of their affiliations remains murky. The New York Times has reported that the deportations "created panic among families who fear that their relatives are among those handed over by the Trump administration to Salvadoran authorities, apparently without due process."
Neither the U.S. nor El Salvador has released the names of the deported Venezuelans.
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"A single judge in a single city cannot direct the movements of an aircraft carrier full of foreign alien terrorists who were physically expelled from US soil"
Whether this is true or not seems to me to be a pragmatic problem, not a spiritual one. Either way, the mystique of constitutionality died from the Constitution being ignored a long time ago. These days all constitutional questions, separation of powers and balance of power are simply a matter of what they can get away with for a day, a month or a year. Congress and the Supreme Court ceded most of their power and ALL of their credibility - also a very long time ago - and having made their bed find that they have to lie in it. It may not be a good thing, but it will certainly be interesting to see what happens when the President takes them at their word and just ignores the judiciary for a while. Congress has already proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that they will do nothing constructive towards reimplementing the Constitution of the United States of America.
Rule of Law is a fig leaf to let people pretend the Rule of Men no longer exists, when it has only been covered up.
The only difference between Rule of Men and Rule of Law is that King's Men can change their opinion faster the King's Judges. Laws are still interpreted by partisan hacks wearing black robes instead of shining armor.
There is no other explanation for appeals courts reversing a jury 2-1, then reversing themselves 8-7, then the Supreme Court reversing again 5-4.
Great point. Why have laws? Just let Trump do whatever he wants.
Who elected those judges?
Ignoring your effete sarcasm for the moment and taking the question seriously, the reason to have laws is to make sure everyone in the society is on clear notice as to what is unacceptable behavior. Although enforcement of laws can never be totally perfect or equal, if almost everyone in society backs up with their actions a clear set of very important laws instead of a large portion of the population trying to gain a personal advantage by abusing the law, it is the best possible way to promote liberty and good behavior. Since we are not anywhere near that ideal and have not been anywhere near it for a very long time, it is disingenuous to insist that one side follow a set of laws that the other side has not been following.
it is disingenuous to insist that one side follow a set of laws that the other side has not been following.
Yes, yes, yes. Whenever anyone calls Trump out for breaking the law and ignoring the courts, you can just say "You didn't complain when Democrats did it." Now the burden of proof is on them to prove they complained when Democrats did it, and of course they can't. Which means you win. That makes all criticism of Trump hypocritical and excuses whatever he does.
That has been made abundantly clear.
Exactly. If breaking the law and ignoring courts has been always done (and is going to be done anyway going forward), at least now it is being done by a virtuous leader towards noble ends. Unlike all of that Biden and Obama stuff which was just wrong. Trump doing it is what makes it right. "Long Live the King" only works when the king is this good and tirelessly working to save the county. He who saves his Country does not violate any Law. Biden and Obama were working to destroy the country, so they were violating all of the laws. It all makes perfect logical sense if one really thinks about it.
That was a really long winded strawman.
Trump doing it is what makes it right.
It's all about who, not what.
You're talking about Lying Jeffy.
You know it’s not about just Trump right?
And MWA is hardly some sycophant.
Oh bull, it's all about Trump. No one can criticize him because Democrats did it first, and that makes whatever he does ok. People say that over and over and over in different words, but then get mad when I distill their words down to what they're really saying.
"You didn't complain when Democrats did it"
Yes, the Democrats did it, and no, you didn't complain. So, which law has Trump broken? Name the exact statute and give me the specific wording in that statute, whether it's federal, state or local. And for fuck's sake, please don't give me the "it's unconstitutional because it's a violation of the separation of powers" bullshit line that your handlers in the MSM or Democrat party have been spoon feeding you since January 20th. I want fucking specifics.
That's exactly my point. Our Rule of Law legal system does no such thing. Laws mean whatever judges rule, and no one can predict how any of them will rule.
Basic "don't hurt people and don't take their stuff" laws are pointless; just prove what damage they did, put that and all the costs in the verdict -- lost wages, ancillary damages, investigators, lawyers, everything -- and what more do you need? Third degree burglary, second degree robbery of an occupied place -- they add nothing useful to justice.
It's the victimless laws which are so flexible. Insider trading is harmless and actually sends useful notice to markets that something is going on, yet it's only legal for Congress Critters. Laws protecting imaginary species, forcing wind and solar power, allowing bureaucrats to create rules for dishwashers -- those are Rule by Men and contribute negatively to justice.
Rule of Law does not exist.
Poor sarc.
Like Biden did with the student loan fiasco?
Yes I know. Anyone who criticizes Trump didn't criticize Biden, which means they're a hypocrite and whatever Trump does is ok. You guys say that a hundred times a day.
...and you ignore your leftist hypocrisy a hundred times a day.
You mean when Biden did what ever he wanted.
Or was it really sleepy Joe behind all those signatures?
For a moment we can leave aside technicalities and even partisan politics and ask if in the systems standpoint some of this makes sense ?
Overall, I think it makes perfect sense for courts to issue an injunction where the injunction itself is not causing any irreparable harm. If the people on the flight are indeed "gang members" I am not sure whats the hurry in shipping them to El Salvador, let the government identify each one of them and produce the evidence of their criminal behaviour and also get them convicted in US courts.
Courts overstepping is indeed a problem but not in this case.
""any verification of their affiliations remains murky. ""
Probably not as murky as you think. Your electronic trial tells much about you. Affiliation doesn't mean you have to have a membership card. If you are talking to other known gang members, hanging out with other gang members. Ect. You are probably a gang member.
In an ideal world this would be a fairly simple question of whether the Executive has the constitutional and legal authority to expel aliens; and under what circumstances they had that authority. Meanwhile, in the real world where the Code of Federal Regulations has documented over four thousand unconstitutionally broad and vague laws almost all of which exceeded the Federal authority granted by the Constitution in the first place; and most of which contradict other laws and regulations and themselves to the point of being unenforceable and uninterpretable; and where there are almost no bad consequences for officials who violate the law and the Constitution; the Executive branch can do pretty much whatever they like, and if you don't like it - TOUGH!
That's a lie. I was told that Trump always abides by the courts and would never, ever defy them.
But more importantly, Andrew Jackson ignored the Supreme Court and marched natives to their death anyway. And you didn't complain. That invalidates all of your criticism and makes whatever Trump does ok.
You know, sarc, if you constantly repeat the same silly trope over and over again and only change the "what you were told" part, it loses its flavor on the bedpost overnight ...
No one told you that Trump always abides by the courts. Instead of raising the "straw man" logical fallacy to high art, you have managed to make it into a form that only deserves derision if not simply boredom. Worse, you are actively undermining the efforts of more serious attempts to criticize what you seem to be opposing with sarcasm, which makes you a troll.
No one told you that Trump always abides by the courts.
That's a lie and you know it. I have repeatedly said that Trump is going to tell the courts to screw, and you along with the usual suspects all said he'd never do that and he's never done that. You're so full of shit it's dripping out of your ears.
Jefferson fired a bunch of judges that got in his way.
Jefferson owned slaves. Therefore slavery is okay now!
And what does your false equivalency have to do with jack shit, Jeffy?
Jack shit? Bon appetit, Jeffy!
Jefferson was a hypocrite and knew it. That puts him far above most of the other leaders of the states that were economically dependent on slavery. His hope was that as the country developed the conditions favoring slavery in the South would change and the owners themselves would eventually abolish it.
A couple of things went wrong with that plan. First was the invention of the cotton gin and the conversion of the southern economy from mixed agriculture to only cotton and tobacco, both dependent on slave labor as they required more work under the hot sun than men would do voluntarily. Technology would eventually change that - but took too long. By the 1830's, slavery was so culturally entrenched that southerners would go broke maintaining it against economic reality, as well as the disapproval of the civilized world.
This wasn't just the slave-owners. Many poor whites lived worse than slaves, would never own a slave, and couldn't find a job because they were competing with slaves. But even they supported slavery fanatically because it gave them someone to look down on. Even though in the language of their society "poor white" is always followed by "trash", they weren't the bottom of the heap!
The truth is a little more complicated. In this case, the judge undercut his own order by not putting it in writing and by saying there is little he could do once they are out of the country.
Trump Admin is picking a fight. It's one that I personally want them to do, but I grant that it's disruptive to how things generally go.
Both Jeff and sarc are showing more sympathy for Venezuelan gangs than they did American citizens facing 20 years for parading on J6.
We're not dealing with Native Americans but with violent, savage gang bangers who have invaded the nation thanks to the worst administration in 90 years.
These thugs deserve nothing but sent to El Salvadore's worst prison.
First they came for the psychopathic drug gangs, but I didn’t care because who would care about those shitheads?
It's more 'first they came for the law abiding citizens and found they could do whatever they wanted. Now they going after foreign gangs and I don't care.'
Whatever you think about the expulsion order, the judicial order to turn around planes "in the air" is just stupid. That's not how reality works. Nor is it how the law works.
The most the judge can say is that the expulsions were unlawful, that no more such expulsions are allowed and that those expelled must be allowed back in. Pretending that your black robe gives you the power to overturn the laws of physics and the realities of bureaucratic communication ... Someone needs to relearn the story of King Cnut.
Now do it with an execution scheduled, the prisoner with the needle in his arm, and the warden waiting for the clock to tick midnight.
Of course they can turn the plane around. Or they can land, refuel and bring them back to the US.
No one is arguing these are fine people, we're not even arguing about whether there is a declared war that allows POTUS to invoke the Alien act. We're arguing about whether the Executive branch is required to follow the decisions of the Judicial branch.
He deported them hours prior to the order. They were over international waters by the time the orders were made.
The timeline was much tighter than that.
https://www.justsecurity.org/109173/timeline-flight-el-salvador-judge-order/
The government stonewalled the hearing long enough to get the plane off the ground. Completely bad faith.
So were Biden's expansive pardons for things which hadn't even been investigated, charged, tried, or convicted. And your point is ....
Yes, Biden did it first. That invalidates criticism of Trump and makes whatever he does ok.
Who said Biden actually signed those pardons anyway?
No. It wasn't.
You're citing a known democrat outfit out of NYU lol. Where do you think international waters start dumdum?
Which, if upheld, gives them a right of return. It does not automatically give the judge authority to force actions which are impossible, outrageously expensive or even just impractical.
The sole recourse to the judge at this point is to hold the administration in contempt, an act that would surely get appealed and, given the impracticality of the judge's demands, would almost certainly be overturned.
Doesn't matter what the courts say or do. They have no teeth.
As Andrew Jackson supposedly said "John Marshall has made his decision, now let him enforce it."
By the way, he was a Democrat. So that means anyone who criticizes Trump is a hypocrite because they weren't criticizing Jackson back in 1830. That also means whatever Trump does is ok because Democrats did it first.
Was the judge's order in 'good faith'?
Yes.
Lol. No.
This is the same judge who ruled against over 70 J6ers anf issued prison time for disrupting Congress that the USSC said was used incorrectly.
How do you even pretend this when it was Biden who declared TdA to be an international criminal organization?
The deportation was done without due process using a law that did not apply. Of course the TRO was the right call.
You keep saying shit completely wrong lol.
The law was cited.
You're such a retard.
This judge has a long history of just being the go to judge for dem activists.
https://thefederalist.com/2025/03/17/protecting-terrorists-is-just-the-latest-of-judge-boasbergs-partisan-activism/
You're so full of shit.
It does not matter if they cite a law, the law still needs to be complied with.
What the fuck does this even mean? He executed the law the same way your hero FDR did. As sarc says, it's okay if democrats did it first.
You're an actual retard aren't you.
When did FDR invoke this law? Cite the document.
Here you go Molly
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alien_and_Sedition_Acts#:~:text=The%20Alien%20Enemies%20Act%20has,known%20as%20%22Enemy%20Aliens.%22
Hell no! Same judge who sent people to prison for four years of torture and starvation.
A communist/Marxist judge appointed by Chicago ward healer and Marxist , Barry Soetoro.
The court overstepping its bounds was bad faith.
But keep crying for those poor, misunderstood murderous gang members.
Don't fret, Tony. We'll get to you soon enough.
>>"Any plane containing these folks that is going to take off or is in the air needs to be returned to the United States however that is accomplished," Boasberg directed during the hearing.
maybe the lol'est exercise in attempted judicial power ever. "turn those fucking planes around!" gavel gavel gavel
Mike Lee had me laughing, even though he said it wasn't funny.
https://x.com/BasedMikeLee/status/1901087865993412961
ya. hilarious.
Makes you wonder why judge Noseberg wanted those criminals back in the states.
Why is it the nosebergs support all these gang bangers?
Why such an inaccurate title? "Trump Administration Deports Alleged Venezuelan Gang Members Despite Court Order"
It should read, "Prior to Court Order."
And if you don't believe that, then you must write "Allegedly" or "Presented Without Evidence." Those are the media rules now. It goes both ways.
They were in our control at the time the order was formalized in writing.
https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/flight-data-shows-timeline-venezuelan-deportation-operation-2025-03-17/
7:25 p.m. – Judge Boasberg's order hits the docket.
7:37 p.m. – N278GX lands in Tegucigalpa, Honduras, opens new tab, on its way to El Salvador.
Those persons were already deported, because they were already outside the United States of America.
The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) and Democracy Forward immediately challenged the deportations, initially seeking to block the removal of five Venezuelan men under Trump's proclamation before broadening the case to cover all those affected.
This is what happens when you let activists and judges take over your immigration system.
Indeed!
Next up on the slippery slope of ignoring court orders:
SCOTUS rules that the 1974 Impoundment Act is constitutional. Trump ignores it anyway and refuses to spend the money appropriated by Congress. Reason commenters cheer. "WHY DON'T YOU LIKE CUTTING SPENDING???"
SCOTUS rules that the 14th Amendment does grant birthright citizenship. Trump ignores it anyway and starts deporting the children of illegals. Reason commenters cheer. "WHATABOUT SENATOR HOWARD IN 1866???"
In 2029, President Gavin Newsom declares a national climate emergency and immediately nationalizes all of the oil companies. SCOTUS rules that he can't do that, but Newsom ignores him and does it anyway. Reason commenters lament, "How could he do such an unconstitutional thing???"
Before saying that Trump violated the law with respect to appropriations, you have to look at the language of each appropriation. Call me when you've done that.
You asked Lying Jeffy to do work. He won’t as he much prefers posting pedantic strawmen and false equivalencies here while sealioning.
2024: BIDENFLATION IS KILLING AMERICA!!!!!!
2025: So what if prices go up?
What have we told you about posting strawmen?
This isn’t SCOTUS though. This is a lower court.
Kind of like how a lower court restrained Trump’s revocation of Perkins Coie’s security clearance. Scotus hasn’t ruled on it yet.
Do you think the lower court was right, or does Trump have the authority to revoke security clearances?
Oh sorry, I guess you must have missed my previous response to your query. Here it is, in full:
https://reason.com/2025/03/17/first-they-came-for/?comments=true#comment-10962069
Issuance of security clearances is purely an executive branch function. Even when you appeal the denial of a clearance, you appeal to a portion of the Executive Branch. Even SCOTUS would not get a say in this matter. The idea that a far lower court judge thought she did is laughable.
Haha. Look what trump has reduced you whiny bitches to: protesting the deportation of violent gang members and terrorists and also the shutting down of an agency that prioritizes sending US taxpayer money to Guatemala for tranny surgeries. Pathetic.
What the fuck is wrong with you people?
Here's another one for them to cry about.
Visa revoked for attending the funeral of a designated terrorist.
https://legalinsurrection.com/2025/03/dhs-denies-reentry-for-brown-u-professor-due-to-attending-terrorist-funeral-in-lebanon/
Elon just exposed the Dept. Of Ed. for the slush fund that it is.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/03/elon-musk-reveals-couple-biggest-scams-doge-has/
Basically you and sarc here's stance is - illegal immigrant who are violent gang members, that are so violent that their original country doesn't want them back - are A-ok because Orange Man is bad.
This is the hill you want to die on with your Democrat buddies.
And die they will. The Democrat party is completely out of touch with the American people. It is 180 degrees away from reality and they have no one , absolutely no one to step in. It appears they refuse to change direction.
Today's approval rating is 29% with only 7% in complete approval.
Do you think a law that says the Executive branch HAS to spend every penny Congress gives it is constitutional?
I’ll go on the record as saying it is not.
In an ideal world, Congress wouldn’t budget more than the last years tax receipts and the President would strive to keep costs down so that there was money left over that could be returned to Congress the following year.
Yeah I do. Congress controls the purse strings, not the President.
I can't speak to the circumstances of these particular people but the reality is that some nations south of our border are essentially narco states ruled at least in part by violent and organized criminals. The Mexican government officially counts well over a hundred thousand civilians disappeared presumably by these gangs. A private group recently uncovered a crematory where hundreds of men, women and children were tortured and executed by cartels. A narco state south of the border with the open border created by the Biden administration is a very real national security threat. These organizations have set up shop here and removal is justified in my opinion. It also appears that Venezuela and Mexico at least see Trump's efforts as a way to restore order in their own countries. Trump makes the case that the law provides the due process required here and Venezuela can provide whatever due process is required there. Maybe the Supremes will find otherwise but this judge didn't make any attempt to rule on the merits he simply ordered that planes outside of his jurisdiction in international waters be turned around on his whim. The arrogance is amazing.
It's pretty obvious that the Trump Administration is spoiling for a fight. And this idiot judge just gave them all the ammo they need. First of all, the order was oral, and the written order did not have the "turn around" language. Also the judge said that there was little he could do once deportees were out of the country--he therefore undercut the oral part of his order.
On top of that, the court also seems to be unaware of the limitations of his power. Expecting planes that were already out of the country to be turned around is the apotheosis of judicial arrogance. Compounding this is the fact that the order was issued on a Saturday evening.
You'll notice that Democrat elected officials aren't jumping on the bandwagon. I seriously doubt that the appellate courts are going to want to wade into this mess of the judge's own making. Also, this same judge gave Clinesmith zero jail time for submitting doctored emails to a court.
The order applied to all Tren de Aragua members over the age of 14 who were not U.S. citizens or permanent residents.
So what's the problem, exactly? Hell, does even a single one of them have any documentation that they came in legally in the first place?
The problem, BYODB, is that it didn't apply to Tren de Aragua illegals under the age of 14 too. No reason not to put them on a plane with a direct flight to an El Salvadoran prison too.
Basically, absent some particular crime and conviction, deportation shouldn't come with a prison sentence in a 3rd party country.
Given that this is Reason, I'd suppose there is a real chance they were all convicted of something or other and they just aren't going to tell us but that's an assumption on my part. It's just as possible they weren't found guilty of anything, which would merit a standard deportation to their home country.
It's also an open question on how much money this costs. It's telling that the administration isn't willing to tell us how much they plan on spending with this deportation-to-prison scheme nor how long they plan on making those payments to keep them there.
Given that you are on record as being in favor of invading the entire world using the U.S. military and nuclear weapons, I suppose you have some...unique beliefs on the subject that I frankly don't care about.
Basically, absent some particular crime and conviction, deportation shouldn't come with a prison sentence in a 3rd party country.
Um, illegal border jumping.
It's also an open question on how much money this costs.
I'm told El Salvador is giving us a really good deal on it.
Given that you are on record as being in favor of invading the entire world using the U.S. military and nuclear weapons, I suppose you have some...unique beliefs on the subject that I frankly don't care about.
Well why not? Are you day-drinking like sarc? What's so bad about the entire world being America?
So border jumping deserves prison in a 3rd party country with no stakes in the game beyond receiving payments from the U.S. to house them there? This doesn't make as much sense as you think it does.
As for what's so bad about invading the rest of the planet, when a desired outcome is actually impossible it doesn't merit consideration or a rebuttal. You might as well ask why we can't just deport all illegal aliens to Mars.
I do not think there are proper words to describe how little I care about murderous gang members being inconvenienced.
Fair, but it's usually best to determine if they are in fact murderous gang members before putting them in a foreign prison that isn't even in their home country.
The article doesn't even really tell us how they know those particular people are indeed murderous gang members, nor will they even say who they were at all.
Reason, of course, can't be trusted to clearly report the facts of a case like this but it would be nice to know for sure if these people deserved being deported to a prison instead of just being sent home.
It's already proven they are gang members. All it takes is the look on their faces and the tattoos they wear.
If I have understood correctly part of why they are being sent to El Salvador is because Venezuela refuses to take. I am not certain on that point though I do know that at one point Venezuela refused, the Trump Administration threatened sanctions and Venezuela at least temporarily acquiesced to receiving at least some deportees but things could have changed again.
So border jumping deserves prison in a 3rd party country with no stakes in the game beyond receiving payments from the U.S. to house them there?
Why not?
As for what's so bad about invading the rest of the planet, when a desired outcome is actually impossible it doesn't merit consideration or a rebuttal.
Why not? You didn't answer the question. Here, I'll simplify it for you:
Which is the greatest country that has ever existed in all of human history?
Also, which are the worst, currently still on the planet, and what argument do you have for tolerating their existence as such whatsoever?
You might as well ask why we can't just deport all illegal aliens to Mars.
If that were possible, would you support it?
Neither the U.S. nor El Salvador has released the names of the deported Venezuelans.
Because nobody cares.
What if they're all students at Columbia with green cards?
I also don't really care that much about "students at Columbia." They may already be too far gone.
What if they were future engineers, doctors and astronauts? What about their "sparks of divinity"?
Blah,blah,blah,blah.
It is a serious fascist move to deport Venezuelans caught in the US to an El Salvadorian prison without any due process.
It's not fascist. They're offering a service that we want, and we're taking them up on it at a reasonable price. It's mutual benefit exchange. How do you get "fascism" from that?
Tell us how you'd like to go around the world and make it into one big American, and kill anyone who doesn't like it. And when you're done call someone a fascist. The irony will be utterly hilarious.
Lol wut?
What do you have against making the world into one big American? (SIC drunky).
I want you to tell everyone how you'd gladly murder half the population of the planet and then call someone a fascist.
Answer my question first, and I'll happily indulge.
What do you have against making the world into America?
The legal antics haven't been settled yet, more Rule of Men will do that for a while until the next King's Men decide something else.
In the meantime, there are law quotes showing they did get all the legal due process they are entitled to as non-citizen criminals.
And you still don't know what fascism means.
Everyone is owed due process. Without due process we can't know if those he deported were non-citizen criminals.
That phrase has a specific legal meaning, which I think escapes you.
Due process is for American citizens. Not for illegal aliens.
Due process is for everyone. No exceptions.
The criminal part of your screed has no effect on ability to deport. All illegals can get deported lol.
Is this you by chance?
https://x.com/Mollyploofkins/status/1900694734512742500
Same retarded leftist bullshit.
Due process is only for citizens and children of citizens. Everyone else is a non-person without any rights at all.
Completely false. Constitutional rights apply to everyone.
Poe's Law strikes again.
You should let 200 years of USSC precedent know.
Cite me when SCOTUS said the Bill of Rights or 14A does not apply to a class of people?
They got their due process here by the administration's reading of the law and they'll get their due process in Venezuela per Venezuelan law. This whole argument is getting very tiresome. No court has made a finding that due process was denied.
Such backwards logic. The law used did not apply. Venezuelan law is not relevant. And no court made a finding that due process was denied because they were deported so quickly.
Courts have no argument to make in the case.
But, PLEASE, keep beating the drum for those poor murderous gang members.
Trump invoked a congressionally passed law to deport them dumdum.
Look at how desperate you're getting.
Now do Guantanamo and Obama.
It may be a problem, but calling it fascism is just dumb. And what process is due for an alien criminal?
Our immigration laws outline the right to a hearing prior to deportation.
No they don't.
You've been given the citation of actual federal law a dozen times. Are you such a dishonest retard you're still trying this?
Not always. The judge expecting that the government had to follow his oral order is daft. Court orders need to be in writing.
Deporting illegal immigrants, especially if they are known criminals, is not fascism. Get a fucking grip Molly.
Deporting people without due process under a law that does not apply and lying to a judge is fascist.
You're still wrong. How many times do you actually need to read the citation you've been given a dozen times?
Unethical maybe, but still not fascism.
Do you need a fainting couch?
Edit: if they were known gang members or criminals, they can be immediately deported.
Let's see how you feel about it when a dozen or more Venezuelan gang bangers/Tren de Aragua take over a house down the street from you.
Just ask the folks who lived in the apartment buildings, they took over in Aurora, Co......how well that worked out.
"Trump Administration Deports Alleged Venezuelan Gang Members Despite Court Order."
Trump was wrong to deport these innocent, hard-working and brave oppressed minorities back to El Salvador.
We all know the good work the members of Tren de Aragua have done in the US.
They practically, by themselves, have increased violent crime to the point the US is the wonder of the world, and implementing an old, archaic law that is still on the books to deport these misunderstand lads is a travesty that will stain America for eternity.
The only way to remedy his miscarriage of justice is to bring all the Tren de Aragua members back to the US and let live in the homes of those who valiantly defended them like Judge James E. Boasberg, all members of the ACLU, Democracy Forward and such forward thinking progressives in Congress like Omar, AOC, Pelosi, Schumer, Sanders, etc.
Then, and only then, will justice be served.
I wonder if Molly has a spare room for these aspiring food truck operators.
They are not going "back" to El Salvador - - they're not from El Salvador and didn't come to the U.S. from El Salvador. They are from a different country (Venezuela) but are being deported to a prison in El Salvador. One known for human rights violations since its primarily for MS-13 - an actual El Salvadorian gang. So we put one gang in a prison full of members of a different gang. I am sure that will go over just swimmingly.
Trump's hard on for foreign strong men has been noticed from his previous administration. This is a continuation of that because foreign asshole gets paid; the prisoners are likely to get shanked, but importantly because they are on foreign soil exercising U.S. jurisdiction over them becomes near impossible. Some of them were actively seeking asylum and it can be presumed that at least some of them will not actually be gang bangers but will be lost to the void. ITS JUST HUMAN LIVES so obviously the party of life doesn't give a flying f.
Haha. Everything Is So Terrible And Unfair, windy.
Yeah too bad they weren't babies in the womb. You could just abort them. Or you know hope people die because they didn't get the covid vaccine.
Keep reaching with 'some'. I'm sure they were all fine citizens seeking asylums.
ITS JUST HUMAN LIVES
Human? They don't have papers. How can they be human without papers?
So, they're illegal in two countries now.
Venezuela can negotiate with El Salvador.
They likely won't because Venezuela won't want them either.
Man, Biden was shitty at dealing with immigration.
The next time they should be deported to a nice liberal neighborhood where they can share the love and cultural enrichment.
And on that day, multiple angels got their wings.
“The order applied to all Tren de Aragua members over the age of 14 who were not U.S. citizens or permanent residents.”
If all the people on the plane met this, fuck em.
The president may invoke the Alien Enemies Act in times of “declared war” or when a foreign government threatens or undertakes an “invasion” or “predatory incursion” against U.S. territory. The Constitution gives Congress, not the president, the power to declare war, so the president must wait for democratic debate and a congressional vote to invoke the Alien Enemies Act based on a declared war.
But we are not at war. No war has been declared by Congress. So, how is this legal ?
You should read past the MSNBC legal analysis and see there is already a USSC case that extended these powers past war time dumdum.
Or rather, the government argued that the war hadn't ended yet, and the court in a narrow 5-4 decision said it had no ability to say the government was wrong.
The key to understanding the law in this case is that it only mentions invasion and incursion because those things would be acts of war, and so a state of war would exist without it needing to be declared by Congress. The Trump administration is actually aware of this and is legally claiming that this was an intentional act of war directed by the government of Venezuela. The Constitutional issue that would need to be tested is whether we're at war with a country just because the President claims we are.
Even though conservatives are backing up Trump on this, my feeling is the current Supreme Court, including conservative judges, would rule against Trump on these arguments if the case ever makes it there. I don't think Trump discounts that possibility and in fact I think he simply doesn't care, because he's results oriented and the gang members will still be gone.
Y'know, if you had bothered to look up the law you'd know the answer to this instead of looking like an ignorant fool.
Whenever there is a declared war between the United States and any foreign nation or government, or any invasion or predatory incursion is perpetrated, attempted, or threatened against the territory of the United States by any foreign nation or government, and the President makes public proclamation of the event, all natives, citizens, denizens, or subjects of the hostile nation or government, being of the age of fourteen years and upward, who shall be within the United States and not actually naturalized, shall be liable to be apprehended, restrained, secured, and removed as alien enemies.
The very gang that Biden declared was a terrorist organization, but TDS judges come to their defense simply because they always need to be 180 degrees in opposition to Trump.
Trump will not be correct nor incorrect 100% of the time. Use your own minds to determine what is correct or not. Ideas, not parties.
So a Marxist judge installed by a Chicago ward healer and fellow Marxist Barry Soetoro tried to prevent his precious little gangbangers from being deported to a prison suitable for these types.
"oopsie...too late, "Bukele.
Besides if the plane was over international waters the moron judge had no authority anyway if he ever did.
It's time for kash Patel and Dan Bongino to investigate this trash judge and find out just how dirty he is.
This is just the start. Round them up and send them off to El Salvadore to one of the tightest lockdowns anywhere. Watching their arrivals was entertaining to say the least.
Guys, oral orders don't have to be followed outside the courtroom. That's black letter law. So this judge is going to look like the fool that he is.
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/25590033-doj278436240-2/
Here's the government's brief.
When are we going to start applying these deportations to the terrorist genocidal Zionist cartels?
Oh look, another Nazi retard.
You might as well get your bags packed. You’re next.
Why would he be next? That makes no sense at all.
LOL! It happened anyway judgie wudgie. Those boys are now safely ensconced in CCOT prison in El Salvadore and their ain't a god damn thing you can do about it judge except suck on it.
By the way, expect kash and Company come knocking to arrest you.
What a laugh, watching judge Noseberg being frog marched into a courtroom.
Visit my home, neighborhood, schoo, workplace and find even one person that wouldn't like to do WORSE to Tren de Aragua . You make big bucks, have no children, live in gated communities and horrible violent raping killing gangs are something you only see in rental movies.