Who Is the Palestinian Columbia Student Detained For His Protest Activity?
Several months ago, Reason interviewed Mahmoud Khalil at a protest encampment. Now he’s sitting in ICE detention.

President Donald Trump promised last week to round up the "agitators" responsible for "illegal protests" on college campuses. Over the weekend, his administration claimed its first scalp: Mahmoud Khalil, a lead negotiator for pro-Palestinian protest camp at Columbia University.
Plainclothes agents from Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) showed up at Khalil's university accommodations on Saturday night and detained him, claiming that his student visa was being revoked. When Khalil's pregnant American wife showed the agents that he had a permanent residency rather than a student visa, "one agent was visibly confused and said on the phone, 'He has a green card,'" according to a press release by Writers Against the War on Gaza.
The ICE agents then told Khalil's attorney, Amy Greer, over the phone that his green card was also being revoked, Greer told the Associated Press. Greer, who has filed a habeas corpus petition, could not find out where Khalil was being detained. ICE agents originally said Khalil was being sent to a facility in Elizabeth, New Jersey, but his wife visited the center and was told that Khalil was not there, Greer told CNN.
ICE's online detainee locator indicates that Khalil is currently being held in the Central Louisiana ICE Processing Center. Greer's law firm, Dratel & Lewis, did not immediately respond to a follow-up request for comment from Reason.
"On March 9, 2025, in support of President Trump's executive orders prohibiting anti-Semitism, and in coordination with the Department of State, U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement arrested Mahmoud Khalil, a former Columbia University graduate student. Khalil led activities aligned to Hamas, a designated terrorist organization," the Department of Homeland Security posted on X.
Just a few days before his detention, the A.P. quoted Khalil in an article about Columbia University's new Office of Institutional Equity. The office, which was set up to fight "disciminatory harassment," has focused heavily on pro-Palestinian protesters. Khalil told the A.P. that the office tried to put his graduation on hold because of "around 13 allegations against me, most of them are social media posts that I had nothing to do with," but backed off when his lawyer got involved.
The Columbia Jewish Alumni Association, an organization formed in response to the student protests, called Khalil a "ringleader of the chaos" on campus and praised the decision to detain him. Groups of pro-Israeli alumni have been trying to get pro-Palestinian activists deported for several months, reports The Intercept.
Of course, many of the students actually charged with crimes over the protests were U.S. citizens who couldn't be deported. Although Khalil did not participate in the infamous student occupation of campus buildings in April 2024, he was a spokesman and mediator for the student protesters, Al Jazeera reports. A month later, students set up a new protest encampment during alumni reunion. Reason spoke with Khalil at that encampment.
"The tent massacres in Rafah, using American-made weapons, have impacted Palestinian students a great deal, and we have heard nothing from the university, no condemnation, no expressions of care, silence from the university," he told a gaggle of reporters. "We have gathered peacefully in community to grieve and feel safe with each other."
In a previously unreported interview, Khalil also told Reason about his life story. "I was born in a refugee camp in southern Damascus. My grandparents were ethnically cleansed from Palestine in 1948," he said. "They stayed in the closest camp to Palestine, and they lived and died in that refugee camp."
As Syria fell into civil war, Khalil moved to neighboring Lebanon. He worked as a local manager for two British government programs, the Chevening Scholarship and the Conflict, Stability, and Security Fund, according to his LinkedIn profile. In 2023, he enrolled in a master's program at Columbia's School of International Public Affairs.
Khalil told Reason that he was not worried about the political repercussions of being such a high-profile activist, because he wasn't planning to go back to Lebanon and Syria. Nor was he worried about how it would affect his career prospects in America, because "I wouldn't work for an institution that doesn't value Palestinian lives. So if they don't want to employ someone who is standing for Palestine, that's my gain," he said.
The prospect that he might be arrested by the U.S. government seemed so remote that it didn't come up.
It's not clear exactly which legal authorities the Trump administration used to revoke Khalil's green card, nor how that will hold up in court. The Department of Homeland Security did not immediately respond to a request for comment.
Nor is it clear where Khalil would be deported. Palestinian refugees and their descendants cannot obtain Syrian or Lebanese citizenship, only residency. Complicating the case even more, Al Jazeera reported that Khalil has Algerian citizenship. The Algerian embassy in Washington did not immediately respond to a request for comment.
Rounding up "a legal permanent resident who has not been charged with a crime marked an extraordinary move with an uncertain legal foundation," the A.P. reports. Civil libertarians argue that it's clearly unconstitutional.
"The Trump administration's detention of Mahmoud Khalil—a green card holder studying in this country legally—is targeted, retaliatory, and an extreme attack on his First Amendment rights," the New York Civil Liberties Union Executive Director Donna Lieberman declared in a statement. "Ripping a student from their home, challenging their immigration status, and detaining them solely based on political viewpoint will chill student speech and advocacy across campus. Political speech should never be a basis of punishment, or lead to deportation."
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Who gives a shit?
I've done study abroad in two very different countries, very different universities, and very different governments. I would never have protested either the universities I attended or the governments that granted me visas. I was a guest. It's not my place to provoke, disrupt, or demand change. How arrogant would that have been of me? If I didn't like the situation, I could leave at any time.
And, if I did have the audacity to cause disruption and make demands of my hosts like this guy did, they would have been well within their rights to have my troublemaking self removed from the country.
Same. I’m not seeing a problem here. The faster American sees the back of this guy, the better.
Trumps Zionist best bum buddy Netanyahu has international warrants for his arrest for war crimes.
He gives speeches on our mainstream media.
Israel is on trial in the United Nations International Court of Justice for committing genocide in Gaza.
This is exactly why 1a exists to enable protesting treasonous government actions.
Trumps Zionist fascist police state in action.
“The ICE agents then told Khalil's attorney, Amy Greer, over the phone that his green card was also being revoked”
Reasons to revoke a green card.
D)Participated in Nazi persecution, genocide, or the commission of any act of torture or extrajudicial killing
Any alien described in clause (i), (ii), or (iii) of section 1182(a)(3)(E) of this title is deportable.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1227
That’s what he was protesting!
United Nations International Court of Justice
As if those retards, or anyone else in the UN, has a lick of authority.
Well fuckwit, the US gave it all the authority of the United States when it signed the UN genocide convention.
Again refuted.
So you’re a neo Marxist. What a surprise. Now fuck off.
Oh, and refuted.
Let us know when they send in the UN rape, er, peacekeeping forces to enforce it.
Double secret refuted.
Refuted.
Refuted
You lost me at "Rob Misek"...
*applause*
ya funny.
They need to quit calling them pro-Palestinians and call them what they are, pro-Hamas, pro-terrorism and proponents of Jewish extermination.
Good description. I am an open borders guy, but (there's always a but) enticing bums and beggars and criminals with welfare paid by my taxes is not open borders, and flying in refugees who don't like this country is not open borders.
Green card, student visa, I don't give a shit. Spokesman for an illegal violent racist encampment? Still illegal trespassing, and as for the racism, as much as I detest the government deciding what is racist, I detest scumbags who trespass and violently block other people's access to their property even more.
Go back to wherever you came from. If your American wife thinks you have more rights than the people you trespassed against and were violent against, she can go with you for all I care. Stop sucking up my taxes for your violent criminal behavior.
Still illegal trespassing
Shouldn't he be convicted of a crime prior to deportation? Deporting people because we don't like their politics is dangerous. It's only favorable when your team is in power and is extremely short sighted.
If this stands, the next Dem administration could opt to deport Christians or conservatives or whatever. And why wouldn't they? This will backlash.
I make no pretense of being a lawyer, or judgment on the legalities.
Everything has backlash. This happened as a backlash.
Deporting people because we don't like their politics is dangerous.
And I'll freak out appropriately if they start deporting citizens for that sort of thing.
If this stands, the next Dem administration could opt to deport Christians or conservatives or whatever.
Christian or conservative... non-citizens?
You seem to be ignoring a key factor, here.
What am I missing? The fake narrative that conservatives and Christians don't immigrate?
Go fuck yourself fascist.
No faggot. I don’t think so. We’re kicking the foreign fascists out. Then we can bring back McCarthyism, and deal with the enemy within.
That enemy is you Tony.
That sounds exhausting.
Dealing with you democrat fascists/neo Marxists is a lot of work. Best you self abort.
Aren’t you a big fan of abortion?
Most especially a public health abortion option so the crackhead rednecks you think are so salt of the earth don’t ruin anymore children’s lives.
Other countries don't respect free speech in the same way the US does (or at least is supposed to). It's one of the ways in which we are better.
"Who Is the Palestinian Columbia Student Detained For His Protest Activity?"
A terrorist (sympathizer).
Next question.
Send his ass back to the war torn Middle East he cherishes so much. Don’t need to import any terrorist collaborators here. We have enough of them home grown in the democrat party.
Is he entitled to due process?
He’s a terror supporting foreigner. If he wants to act like a shithead he can leave.
So you oppose the concept of "due process". That is a fascist position.
Your side cancels entire elections because the "wrong guy" won and spent four years going ham employing Marcusian "liberating tolerance" to try and permanently censor the right.
Your knowledge of "fascism" simply means "anything which resists my stupid marxist political theology."
Just to be sure here, depriving people of due process is ok because of things Democrats did first?
I suspect "fomenting violent protests in support of a terrorist organization" will be sufficient enough to justify it.
I disagree. Due process is, by definition, due. I think you need to argue why that process is not due in a particular case. Outside of an actual war on, those cases are very rare.
You don't really know what fascism is do you? You just like using it against people who disagree with you.
I would suggest it’s, in part, putting people in cages for wrongthink.
Like when you traitors put little old ladies in prison for praying quietly in the vicinity of an abortion mill?
No, that's just general authoritarianism, not specific to fascism.
Well la di da.
So you're saying Germany and England are both fascist states now?
Like your side has done more times than I care to elaborate on. You're right the so called left in America is truly akin to fascism, glad you admit it. Admission is the first step towards recovery.
What. 3 year no trial for J6 can't be fascism!
You don't know what 'fascist' means. And you have a doctorate.
He’s getting it now. You just don’t like it.
He is not going to jail. He is just being sent back home. He should be happy.
If you're a guest, don't piss on the rug.
He is in jail now.
In a holding cell awaiting deportation.
The Constitution only applies to citizens who are children of citizens. Everyone else is a non-person.
Are you really this ignorant? He has basic human rights. But he doesn’t have all rights afforded to citizens.
You were probably sleeping it off during civics class. Or maybe you already dropped out by then to focus on your binge drinking.
Do we need due process to revoke green cards?
If he posted "I support Hamas killing Jews" on X, that should be good enough for the government to cancel his green card.
Nope.
He's getting all the process he is due.
Hopefully good and hard.
He’s getting it now.
Cue the Trump defenders bringing up J6 and Saint Babbitt in 3... 2...
Oh wait. They don't support Israel. It's all good.
When will you retire this act?
Building the strawman early this morning, eh Sarc?
Just stopping the usual suspects from making the comments all about how the author is a hypocrite for not complaining about J6 and Saint Babbitt. Because once I do, they can't.
hey, the author is a hypocrite for not complaining about J6 and Saint Babbitt!
Ha! Sorry but since you're not one of the usual suspects (i.e. douchebags) it don't count.
You’re so broken.
I would like to see how much more broken I can make him. But then he pussed out on his violent threats towards me.
You’re so bad at this.
>>Khalil told Reason that he was not worried about the political repercussions of being such a high-profile activist
road littered with those not worried about political repercussions.
queue plea by Brittney Griner to get out of Russia for something she figured wouldnt matter
Sam. Bankman.
Ironically, she wanted to go back home and this dude is apparently being oppressed by being sent back to the home he was "protesting" on behalf of. (I mean, the First Amendment does specify peaceful assembly.) If his American wife is so bummed about the potential of being separated from him, I'm sure Gaza would let her in.
He foolishly thought he lived in free country.
You’re pathetic. He can go home if he wants to act like that.
Citizens live in a free country.
He is a guest.
He is a permanent resident.
Was.
Still is. There is a process they need to go through, and he does not fit any of the categories in the law that lets them revoke a green card.
False.
I don't see the word "citizen" in there. Shame.
Green Cards can be revoked for certain offenses, if upheld in court. He will receive his due process.
Try retarding harder.
If I ever stop by your house I'll call you names and break shit because free country, right?
He foolishly forgot he was here on a visa.
He foolishly thought he hated freedom and could transform a free country into the same despotic shithole he came from.
He foolishly thought he hated freedom and could transform a free country into the same despotic shithole he came from.
Not to mention that the history of Palestinian "refugees" is one of subversion, violence, and entitlement for decades now. Having a population that constantly spazzes out because you're not nuking Tel Aviv isn't one that's contributing anything to this country.
But it’s not HiS country. He’s a guest, and not entitled to the same civil liberties as citizens.
He clearly isn’t compatible with our constitutional republic. Time for him to go home.
Dude's advocating for violence - Reason says he's a protestor.
People burn down cities in 'protests'.
Trump says 'be peaceful' and he's trying to overthrow the government.
Diffuse and Deflect Magazine.
You know they're lying. They know they're lying. They know that you know. They know that you know that they know. The whole point is to force you to distrust your peers and speak lies against them.
They could bathe Gaza in money that would make TrumpGaza look homely. They don't because it is/was more important to them to destroy American Institutions and (fail to) get Clinton, Biden, and Harris elected.
I can’t help think how much better the whole world would be if all the democrats were gone forever.
Trump is trying to overthrow the government? Trump IS the government.
This is a case of a green card holder being arrested without a warrant for a non-crime and threatened with deportation for engaging in protected speech.
This is fascism. It is a test, if Trump can do this, he will do far worse.
Applying the law to Trump or his administration is lawfare. Besides, I'm sure some Democrat somewhere did it first, and you didn't complain about it. That makes it ok.
While he did not participate directly in the crime of taking over the University buildings, he was in a leadership (spokesman) position of those who did. Being an accessory may just be a violation of green card status. People are serving prison time for similar circumstances.
Was he in their encampment, living with them in their cute little tents? Then he was part of the organization.
If he wasn't, but he was shouting their slogans instead of just handing out press releases or offering legal advice, then he was a member.
The article says he was a spokesman for the group.
The article says several things.
In other words, he was a protestor and supported their violent racist trespassing which blocked other students from their contracted-for student activities.
Sympathy low.
Indeed, it should be low.
The law isn't there to protect people who deserve sympathy.
Fuck off. Hamas shouldn’t receive sympathy. It should be exterminated. But of course, you support genocidal Islamists.
I’m sure you would openly celebrate with Misek if Iran successfully nuked Israel and killed them all.
Man, every time I think Sarc has hit rock bottom, and has nowhere else to look but up, he finds another fucking pick axe.
Sarc is now literally with the terrorists.
in 1997 the State Department designated HAMAS as a Foreign Terrorist Organization (FTO). Providing Material Support to an FTO is a felony, 20 years in prison, under 18 USC 2339b. Case law has defined 'material support' to include: organizing, advocating or fund raising for, posting a link on your web page to a Hamas or Palestinian site seeking to raise fund or engage in terrorist activities, and SPEECH. As that Hamas dogma states it seeks retribution for bombing of Palestinians in GAZA and the US is engaged in negotiation for a cease fire with HAMAS as leader of GAZA, the to support 'Palestinians" is equal to support the FTO HAMAS. A felony. This is patriot act territory.
Enh. I have to admit I don't actually find this all that compelling as an argument. There are plenty of stupid, shitty laws. (See also: New York and gun laws.) It should not, in fact, be illegal in any way for an actual American citizen to engage in speech in favor of Hamas, as morally abhorrent as I find it personally. Actually, I don't think it should be illegal for a foreign national to do so either. It's gross but it is not an activity that I consider an actual malum in se crime, short of advocating for the immediate death of a specific individual, or possibly groups of individuals. I'm not 100% certain that current US jurisprudence would cover charging a person with incitement for saying something as generic as "All of you who are listening to me, you should immediately go out, pick up a weapon, and murder a libertarian!" I am fairly certain it covers "All of you hearing me now, you should go murder that particular libertarian right there."
That said, this dude is not an American citizen, so I have very little issue with the FedGov sending him the fuck home for being an asshole, and advocating on behalf of assholes. Yes, it is absolutely somewhat collectivist, but the American People have indicated that they want this specific brand of fucktardery curbed, particularly from people who don't actually live here.
Green cards are still a priveledge and mot considered a right once obtained dumdum.
There are many reasons a green card can be revoked. Doesn't require a court.
No. Under US law green cards can only be revoked under limited circumstances. "Whim of Trump" is not one of them.
You should know by now that expecting Trump to follow the law is lawfare.
Under US law green cards can only be revoked under limited circumstances.
Sounds like he violated them.
"Whim of Trump" is not one of them.
Immaterial. And it makes you mad, so it's automatically good.
What you are advocating is fascism, the ability to ignore or violate the law to suit your politics. This guy is being illegally detained for a political crime.
Bwahaha, If only you could have expressed that when Trump was being subject to whimsical prosecutions, or J6'ers locked up forever, you might have a principle to stand on.
As it is, you are now finding out the consequences of the rules you've laid out.
Trump and the J6 people did an attempted coup. That is a real crime. Trump pardoning them was an affront to democracy and the rule of law.
Trump and the J6 people did an attempted coup.
What an idiot.
Petitioning courts is a coup?
Then why was no one ever charged with insurrection? Just bullshit charges of ‘parading’.
Your side cancels entire elections because the "wrong guy" won and spent four years going ham employing Marcusian "liberating tolerance" to try and permanently censor the right.
Your knowledge of "fascism" simply means "anything which resists my stupid marxist political theology."
What election was cancelled?
Yeah, your side also likes to play dumb when your dialectic is called out.
What are you talking about? Expecting Trump to follow the law is leftist lawfare. Besides, whatabout all the things Democrats have done? That makes whatever he does ok and anyone who questions him a Marxist.
I suspect "fomenting violent protests in support of a terrorist organization" will be sufficient enough to justify it.
And Molly is a marxist, so there's nothing inaccurate in that label.
I know MG is sympathetic to progressives. Haven't seen anything to indicate she's a Marxist other than the Jesse and the other morons saying she is. But those imbeciles say anyone who criticizes Trump is a Marxist.
Hey Molly, you a Marxist?
By "marxist" do you mean I support the public seizing the means of production...no I do not or do you mean "marxist' as in the political philosophy or Karl Marx because I have never studied it nor know what it is, so I can't be a "marxist" in that regard.
Add fascism and Marxism to the long list of shit Molly is to stupid to understand.
Care to explain why?
Looks to me like Molly has a better understanding of Marxist economics than any Trump defender in these comments except SGT (that's a really fucking low bar though since most Trump defenders consider ignorance of economics to be strength) and then expressed ignorance of Marxist politics (which to a Trump defender simply means not supporting Trump, as opposed to supporting what Marx actually said).
then expressed ignorance of Marxist politics (which to a Trump defender simply means not supporting Trump, as opposed to supporting what Marx actually said).
Well, yeah, marxists continually play stupid when their dialectic is called out.
Because to marxists, anyone that resists their political theology is a fascist.
I try to treat you with respect Red Rocks, but calling someone a liar for disagreeing with what you say about them is dishonest and dumb. I expect that from Jesse, ML, and the various morons I have on mute, but not you.
Because to marxists, anyone that resists their political theology is a fascist.
Trump defenders call anyone who resists their political theology (as if there is one other than worshiping His cult of personality) marxists and fascists. That just looks like projection to me.
Stop it. You're better than this.
I try to treat you with respect Red Rocks, but calling someone a liar for disagreeing with what you say about them is dishonest and dumb.
No, that's based off of the experience of their observable behavior for my entire adult life dating to college. It's always the same, predictable process.
Trump defenders call anyone who resists their political theology (as if there is one other than worshiping His cult of personality) marxists and fascists.
You mean populism? The same ideology that's been around for over 125 years in various forms?
And yes, they are marxists, based on their theology of a fake oppressed/oppressor duality, hyper-materialism, and historic determinism.
I can't. I ran out of hard drive space. I can't make the file any longer. 4 gigs of plain ascii is sufficient.
Your side also likes to play No True Marxist when your dialectic is called out as well.
Green cards can be revoked for security reasons such as support for a foreign terrorist group like Hamas.
Molly is a fucking idiot.
https://www.theimmigrationfirm.us/blog/2024/06/4-grounds-on-which-your-green-card-can-be-revoked/
You better inform that attorney that you read a book about game theory and that means that he's wrong about the law.
Eugene Volokh, professor of law emeritus at the University of California, Los Angeles, explains that the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952 provides for the denial of entry and deportation of "any alien who…endorses or espouses terrorist activity or persuades others to endorse or espouse terrorist activity or support a terrorist organization.
Sarc's problem is not just that he doesn't know very much, it's also that he doesn't care. The description of this law as an "Immigration and Naturalization Act" would seem to include it as part of item 4 above. But since sarc's only mission is attacking commenters he hates he doesn't even try to understand how different pieces of information fit together.
18 USC 2339b providing Material Support to a Foreign Terrorist Organization, a felony. Hamas was so designated in in 1997.
This guy would be wise to had in his and his wife's green cards ad exit the US. Federal prison is not fun.
You don't have a clue what fascism is. You are pretty damned ignorant for someone who is "well versed in a wide variety of subjects".
https://reason.com/2025/02/15/could-school-choice-work-at-the-federal-level/?comments=true#comment-10918215
Specializing in one aspect of one particular subject while being well versed in a variety of other subjects is not mutually exclusive. It's kind of how a university education goes. Students don't have much of an option but to be well versed in other courses because that's how curriculums work.
Personally I think it's pretty dumb. Most people could take the classes they need to get a career in just one or two years. But then all those professors who teach useless courses would be forced to get a real job.
Cite your law buddy.
How about 18 USC 2339b Providing material support to a foreign terrorist organization, a felony, 20 years in a federal prison. HAMAS was so designated in 1997.
This is false no matter how many times you say it.
There are usual criminals reasons for revocation but they can be revoked at any time.
Is your fake PhD in ignorance?
Would Felony-level Material Support to a Foreign Terrorist Organization be sufficient to lose a green card? HAMAS was so designated in 1997. The case law on 18 USC 2339b practically draws a ring around the activities this guy has been involved in.
This is patriot act territory, and is best hope is just deportation.
Green cards can be revoked if the holder expressed support for terrorism. You have right to free speech, not residency or citizenship.
Put it this way - if this guy was spokesperson for KKK to who burned cross on school grounds, would have think twice if Biden revoked his green card? The Hamas kids weren't just anti-war, they're antisemites who urge warfare against Israel.
Blame Columbia for letting this go on instead of acting like grownups.
This. Molly/sarc are just ignorant.
"...for engaging in protected speech."
If it were only protected speech being contested.
He was also denying legitimate protected speech of others when he did by illegal trespass cause disruption and closure of the university.
Trampling the rights of others is not excused by his speech.
You don't know what a warrant is either. And you have a doctorate.
Tony, everything you said is bullshit.
Mahmoud Khalil, a lead negotiator for pro-Palestinian protest camp at Columbia University.
So, not just a 'protestor' but in fact some kind of protest organizer? Not even sure what a 'negotiator' for an encampment on campus even is.
Isn't he here to learn at Columbia, not there to change the American system? And also not to raise a ruckus and prohibit the functioning of the University he's ostensibly attending? (Fair question: does he even go to class or is he a full-time 'camp negotiator'?)
"The Trump administration's detention of Mahmoud Khalil—a green card holder studying in this country legally—is targeted, retaliatory, and an extreme attack on his First Amendment rights," the New York Civil Liberties Union Executive Director Donna Lieberman declared in a statement. "Ripping a student from their home, challenging their immigration status, and detaining them solely based on political viewpoint will chill student speech and advocacy across campus. Political speech should never be a basis of punishment, or lead to deportation."
Oh, no, it will chill speech and advocacy on campuses!
No more will 'protestors' be able to say 'go home Jew' or interrogate students on their ethnicity as they go to class. The horror!
I do agree that it seems illegal to remove a green card holder without charging them for a crime, or at least a notice of intent to revoke said status. That's a problem for the Trump administration.
I'm not entirely sure that revoking a Visa based on 'protesting' is unwarranted, either, though. If he's here to learn, as he says, then engaging in political protest on campus seems like something you'd want to avoid on such a controversial subject. If he had kept his head down and not advocated for a terrorist state he could have finished his education and probably been employed in the US.
Nor is it clear where Khalil would be deported. Palestinian refugees and their descendants cannot obtain Syrian or Lebanese citizenship, only residency. Complicating the case even more, Al Jazeera reported that Khalil has Algerian citizenship.
Uhh...not sure why that complicates things when presumably one is deported to the nation one hold's citizenship in. Also ha fucking ha with unable to get citizenship in Syria or Lebanon. Maybe ask why the fuck that is.
Oh, no, it will chill speech and advocacy on campuses!
The opposite as well;
Dear Hostile Foreign Agents,
Get a Student Visa first, then agitate on behalf of your government all you like! I know we booted Russian agents for organizing less disruption that what this guy perpetrated, but this is what Free Speech is really all about!
Sincerely,
NYCLU
Observably, it would only 'chill the speech' of student visa holders from spending their time trying to influence American politics and get us even more involved in foreign wars as opposed to going to fucking class.
I genuinely want an answer to if this guy ever showed up to class. When I was in school, I straight up did not have the time to 'protest' all day let alone 'negotiate' with administration on behalf of the people who are protesting all day.
In some fairness, I went to a school that would not give you credit for 'protesting' and I'm not sure Columbia is at that level of seriousness anymore. I'd assume they treat foreign protestors with the same kid gloves that colleges treat their student athletes.
This will show all other wannabe "protestors" who would harass and molest Jewish students what happens when the boundaries of the acceptable behavior are crossed. Students are being pampered by the society to learn, not to stage violent protests in support of a terrorist organization. Bon voyage Khalil!
Dear, there are many of us who think Israel is a "terrorist organization". So, get off your high horse. Protest is as libertarian an activity as there is.
Nobody cares what you idiots think though.
Thanks for showing us your true colors, that you're an idiot that supports anti-Semitism. Fuck off Nazi.
I'm not entirely sure that revoking a Visa based on 'protesting' is unwarranted, either, though. If he's here to learn, as he says
He already graduated and has been mooching off of the Columbia housing department.
He already graduated and has been mooching off of the Columbia housing department.
Well, that would explain why he had the time to protest on campus I suppose. I didn't think colleges of any kind would allow non-students to live in student housing though, let alone hang out on campus.
My only real concern in all this is revoking a green card with no concrete legal reason as to why, but I'm also not all that upset that an individual who supports foreign terrorist states being evicted from the country either. Two wrongs don't make a right, even if the goal is a good one, so that at least somewhat tempers my schadenfreude here.
My only real concern in all this is revoking a green card with no concrete legal reason as to why, but I'm also not all that upset that an individual who supports foreign terrorist states
I suspect "fomenting violent protests in support of a terrorist organization" will be sufficient enough to justify it.
It would be nice if they proved that in a court. There are a lot of spurious claims going on here, myself included, but at the end of the day the government should have to prove their case in all things.
They don't have to in regards to immigration. Even a border patrol agent can deny entry even on suspicion of drug use for example.
Also ha fucking ha with unable to get citizenship in Syria or Lebanon. Maybe ask why the fuck that is.
LOL, exactly. It's almost like these people have an 80-year history of being entitled, violent subversives that end up alienating every country where they settle.
A quote I gleaned from the linked Reason article from 06.04.2024:
"Everybody in Palestine has always said change can only come from within America," the organizer said. "And the revolution is only in the hands of the youth. We are the youth and we are the change makers."
Now, they didn't bother to report who said that particular quote nor did this individual guy show up much in that article, but this tells us exactly what they are about.
Their goal is to lie, obfuscate, and deflect from the barbarity of Palestine aimed at young and dumb students and demonize Israel and, more fundamentally, Jewish people in particular. Turns out, rape and beheadings can be justified! Hell, there are more than a few posters in these very pages making that case albeit in a roundabout bullshit way.
It's actually insane to me that October 7th is so easy for people to shrug off as if it's nothing. If that happened on American soil, Palestine would be a literal crater right now. It made 9/11 look positively sanitary by comparison.
In fact, if they actually want change maybe they should kick Hamas the fuck out and take control of their own destiny and stop asking the United States to somehow interject in the region and kill all the Jews for them. We aren't really helping Israel, we are actually restraining them. That is literally helping Palestine, so they can fuck right off with their concern trolling. Yes, innocent and helpless people get hurt in war. Especially when the faction Israel is fighting uses those people as literal human shields. Weird that so-called 'Palestinian negotiators' don't have more choice words for their own side who are committing atrocities and war crimes in their name.
It's actually insane to me that October 7th is so easy for people to shrug off as if it's nothing. If that happened on American soil, Palestine would be a literal crater right now. It made 9/11 look positively sanitary by comparison.
I have pointed out repeatedly that I live in a city surrounded on three sides by indian reservations. And if they started chucking Katyushas at us, in very short order that would be two indian reservations. But they know better.
Apparently, Gazans are too stupid to learn basics like that.
The Columbia Jewish Alumni Association, an organization formed in response to the student protests, called Khalil a "ringleader of the chaos" on campus and praised the decision to detain him. Groups of pro-Israeli alumni have been trying to get pro-Palestinian activists deported for several months, reports The Intercept.
Well at least this makes it clear who is really stoking the outrage here. Alumni [read donor class - since regular non-donating alumni would be ignored by both the university and by politicians seeking to use govt coercion]. I would have thought a group of donors like that could have at least astroturfed a group of 'students' to be shocked - and stunned - yes shocked - and stunned.
Underneath all this is the generational conflict occurring inside the American Jewish community re Israel.
I love how anti-semitism is one of the most damning bigotries one can have, unless you are Arab and/or Muslim.
one of the most damning bigotries
I believe the phrase you're looking for is "weaponized bigotries". It does work very well in the US to suppress all speech and thought. If what was being protested was truly anti-semitism, then students would recognize that as easily as their parents do. If it is instead anti-Zionism more than anti-semitism, then that is why it is the alumni and oldsters who weaponize and conflate the two and make sure govt/pols and other donor recipients/institutions suppress the former.
None of this campus stuff is even remotely comparable to Charlie Hebdo stuff where one bleeds over to the other.
If you scratch an 'anti-zionist' you will invariably find an anti-semite underneath.
I note you have danced around the actual events of October 7th more than once while managing to end up condemning Israel just about every time, so I tend to think you're one of the many who hide their anti-semitism behind anti-zionism while loudly shouting that 'it's different'.
Riddle me this, what is Zionism a response to. Did it just spring up out of nothingness?
I note you have danced around the actual events of October 7th more than once
I haven't danced around anything. When the Israeli government chose to invoke Amalek, starvation as a strategy, etc; then 'October 7' is - from that moment on part of a propaganda effort. I have no interest in trying to conflate 'October 7' as a Hamas attack on Israelis with 'October 7' as an Israeli government attempt to mobilize support/empathy for a response that has more to do with Amalek than Hamas. If anyone cares for an honest conversation, I'll engage.
Riddle me this, what is Zionism a response to. Did it just spring up out of nothingness?
It sprang up out of:
CHRISTIAN dispensationalism
A late-19th century reaction by the Ashkenaz (not Judaism - not Sephardic - not Mizrahi) to the conditions they faced in Central/Eastern Europe.
The aftermath of the Holocaust
Note: The Arabs have nothing to do with any of this. Nor does the Middle East. That's just the battlefield.
“I’ve stopped all government censorship and brought back free speech in America,”
--Trump
He was charged with no crime. He is being deported by executive order.
If you've got a problem with him dictating the law then you support lawfare.
I find it amusing that he describes his grandparents LEAVING by choice as being "Ethnically cleansed"
Can you believe Jews who fled Nazi Germany by choice complained about ethnic cleansing? Seriously? They chose to leave!
How about the German who had to leave East Prussia and Silesia after WWII.
Losing a war your side started has some consequences.
So ethnic cleansing is ok, depending on who is doing it. Gotcha. And why not? I could easily imagine Trump defenders supporting cleansing the nation of illegals by whatever means necessary. Not only would be ok because Democrats did it first, but it would be ok because illegal isn't an ethnicity aaaand because they're not protected by the Constitution or the law due to their immigration status..
Since the Palestinian side's express desire was and continues to be to remove the Jews from Israel, there is no leg for you to stand on there.
Now you support punishing double-plus, ungood wrongthink? Dude, 1984 was a warning, not a blueprint.
I'm saying, as there are plenty of Arab-Israelis, that his grandparents bet poorly.
Simply acknowledging, that you cannot use "ethnic cleansing " as a moral cudgel when the side you favor wants to do it to their enemies.
Hate to break this to you, but being a hypocrite doesn't necessarily make someone wrong.
You're able to manage both consistently.
Just go ahead and start typing apartheid in all caps like your fellow travelers here, sarc.
The Five Stooges are far more familiar with rethardheid, from personal lived experience.
That was never the goal of Palestinians. The goal of Palestinians was to prevent a Jewish majority STATE. That is what Zionism's goal was - to create a Jewish supremacist state - an ethnonation - and to ensure migration from elsewhere in the world to ensure a ethnic majority so that it could claim to be a 'democracy' with majoritarian rule.
The reason the Palestinians lost is because they never followed through, governance-wise, with the original alternative to 'Zionism' advocated by all other minorities in that region (including Jews) as the Ottoman Empire aftermath. Provide protection and autonomy to minorities - Druze, Jews, Maronites, Samaritans, Alawites, Kurds, Circassians, Armenians, Christians, Shia, etc
The "Palestinians" have more rights in Israel than they would in any other Arab state.
Israel should, of course, rectify this post haste --- but that is how it is.
Can you believe Jews who fled Nazi Germany by choice complained about ethnic cleansing? Seriously? They chose to leave!
There were plenty that stayed and fought Israel, all the way up until the other Arab nations at the time realized what a bossy pain in the ass Palestinians actually were, and abandoned them to their fate.
Jordan felt sorry for them and let them migrate there, only to watch them say "thank you" by assassinating Abudullah I just three years later.
Also Lebanon. The Palestinians fomented a civil war that changed it from A majority Christian to majority Muslim and not just Muslim but blood thirsty nutbag ones.
They also supported Saddam Hussein invading Kuwait after the latter opened up their doors to them in the wake of Nasser kicking them out of Egypt after being their sugar daddy for 20 years.
There's no evidence their departure was anything but voluntary, but sarc assumes it anywy. Evidence is unnecessary when the assertion
supports the narrative.
Jews who voluntarily left Nazi Germany weren't fleeing because they left voluntarily.
Understood.
It's revealing you cannot point to the circumstance in question to support your point. Instead you have to pretend something that happened in one place and time somehow controls what happens in other places and times.
We understand, your thinking has always been shitty.
I was responding to your fellow Trump defender asserting that "LEAVING by choice" meant there was no ethnic cleansing going on. I was only responding to the logic, not the specific details of the individuals involved. And yes I know you consider logic to be leftist because you go with what you feel, and you won't let reasoning get in the way. Just like a leftist.
The sadly hilarious thing about these comments is you Trump defenders who absolutely hate leftists engage in the same fallacious and emotional reasoning used by Obamabots, Marxists, Antifa and other leftist twits. The only difference is that you're wrapped up in Trump's cult of personality, not Barack's or Karl's.
There was no ethnic anything. The Arab states told the Arab citizens to leave while they obliterated Israel.
They did so.
The Arab states, as per usual, failed miserably.
They left their homes by choice, awaiting the wiping out of the Jews and, well, they backed the losing side.
There were massacres perpetrated by both sides in the 1948 war. Israelis did their fair share of "wiping out" Arabs to make room for new settlements. Shit, that's what they just did. And while it might not technically be "ethnic cleansing" in the sense that Palestinian isn't an ethnicity, plenty of people were killed simply for being Palestinian. So I don't think it's much of a stretch to say they were fleeing what they perceived to be ethnic cleansing.
There's two sides to the story.
There's no evidence their departure was anything but voluntary
Hard to see/hear evidence when your ilk have your head up your ass yelling 'lalalalala I can't hear you'. Every historian - including Israeli - understands there was nothing 'voluntary' about any of it. The final piece was a Haganah operation called Plan Dalet. The sources in that wiki article are mostly Israeli - Benny Morris, Ilan Pappe, etc - and are based on books that they wrote detailing evidence.
The ideas to ethnically cleanse Palestine date to the origin of Zionism. That was never 'hidden'. It is why there was immediate opposition to Zionist settlement in Palestine from the beginning. It was a colonial project - during a time when 'colonial project' was the stuff of romantic dreams of glory
The plans to put it formally in place date to 1937 which is when Zionists in Israel realized that the Brits would leave at some point and would recommend 'partition'.
'Dalet' - meaning 4 - was the fourth detailed iteration of the plan that was implemented before/during/after the 1948 war that became known as the Nakba to Palestinians.
I don't expect American conservatives to ever really respect history. I don't know why. Probably laziness. Mythology/narrative is easier.
Every historian - including Israeli - understands there was nothing 'voluntary' about any of it.
This is a lie, at various times and places Israel requested Arabs to remain in their homes while Arab invaders requested they flee.
You are simply full of shit and myth. Read an actual book.
You're aware that Arab states TOLD the "Palestinians" (Jordanians, in reality) to leave their homes so they could wipe out Israel. They left --- and the Arabs, of course, failed. Oh well.
Israel, in fact, asked them to stay. They opted not to. You don't get "do-overs" for idiotic choices.
They did not expect the Arabs to lose the war
This story is being sent out today throughout the entire Democratic Party ecosystem. Interesting that this apparently includes Reason magazine.
I mean as presented this seems like a clear problem, but as we ought to know how the Democratic Party presents something is often not indicative of the true situation. Interesting that Reason is one of their footsoldiers though.
Great point. Only leftists get information from non-MAGA sources. You just busted them for being leftists. If they were fair and balanced they'd stick to Fox New, Truth Social, and other MAGA approved sources that contain no bias or spin whatsoever. But getting information from Democrat sources? That's leftist and Marxist. True libertarians are MAGA.
Interesting that this apparently includes Reason magazine.
But at this point, not particularly shocking.
Several months ago, Reason interviewed Mahmoud Khalil at a protest encampment. Now he’s sitting in ICE detention.
So Reason narc'd on him?
Mahmoud Khalil participated in the anti-Semtic riots at Columbia University.
He's an is an insurrectionist, and thus, needs to be deported.
If he had peacefully protested, I doubt ICE would've picked him up and detained him.
You know what other country revoked a foreign student's visa and kicked them out of the country over protest actividad?
The problem is that Trump is using the tools he does have to make up for the ones he doesn't. The schools need to kick out people who disrupt class or other events. And if the administrations won't then Trump needs to limit himself to legitimate tools like the Civil Rights Acts and ending the school's eligibility for federal funds. These tools are plenty strong to get results.
He's already cut off $400 billion in federal funding from them, plus whatever pipelines the protestors were getting via USAID. But this is the lesson of any type of color revolution, and especially from the Fentanyl Floyd riots--if you don't nip that shit in the bud, it eventually spins out beyond your ability to manage it.
I think its 400 million, but we see if it sticks. Obviously Columbia is going to sue s he needs t have people working on it. Courts don't like pronouncements, he needs a policy consistently applied.
But I think you're wrong about needing to nip riots in the bud. The Floyd riots ended the day after the election when Dem Governors decided to call up the national guard. Riots can be stopped any time. When riots continue it's because left wing institutions want them to continue.
This comment section is just infested with Big Government Trumpists. If you are a libertarian this is an open and shut case. We don’t deport people for free speech violations. Every citizen and Green Card holder is entitled to due process. End of story. If Khalil has committed an actual crime than the Government should charge him, win a conviction and deport him. If the Government doesn’t have the evidence to bring charges, which it appears they do not, than the Government has to fuck off.
He's being deported for participating in obstructing access to the school, not holding up a sign.
Let's just find a happy compromise.
We don't really want people like this in America at all. He clearly sides with Islamic terrorists. Let's just send him back to Hamastine (or Iran), and as a parting gift we give him 72 white liberal karens.
They probably won't be virgins, and we might need to send a case of morning-drinkable chardonnay along with them - but I think that solution would make everyone happy.
It’s also bizarre that any Libertarian would enthusiastically support Israel, a country founded on socialist principles and where heavy handed government intervention is a fact of life. Not that Arab countries are any better, they are universally even worse. But as an American why do I have to support or care about any of these countries? Go Argentina.
Israel is like the only free nation in that entire region. No "queer for Palestine" would ever live in any (or most) other part of the middle east.
There's also the fact that Jews helped create untold riches for America and their people are among the most persecuted people on the face of the earth. It's human thing to feel sympathetic to a light that shines in the darkness.
Libertarians favor free trade and diplomacy with nations, so why should we shun Israel? The people who attack Israel have killed Americans on our soil. It's in our interest to help them. Surely, the pro Ukrainian "our aid to Ukraine helped degrade Russia's military without spilling American blood" side would agree.
I don't give a shit about Israel or Palestine one way or the other. The left considers it a cudgel for subversive activity here in the US, so I have no problem with those subversion efforts being neutered.
Israel hasn't been socialist for over four decades. Ironically its economic collapse occurred when the socialist institutions were dismantled.
Argentina is now an economic basket case. Milei took a bad situation and made it worse. Its best and brightest are all leaving.
I love coming to Reason to bathe in the silky lavender bubbles of freedom, which is to say, the government ruining the lives of people for committing no crime.
You don't need to commit crimes to get your green card revoked. If you expressed sympathy for terrorists, that's good enough.
"We have to grant citizenship to bigots for exercising their 1A rights" is a strange take from progressives. Do I have to invite the KKK to hurl insult at my face?
You're just plain wrong.
Actual reasons for lawful deportation include committing fraud, failure to notify authorities of a change of address, not maintaining a primary residence, conviction of a crime, and threatening United States security.
Expressing political views that Trump doesn't like is not legal grounds for deportation.
Putting people in cages for no reason is an odd stance for a libertarian, so I guess we’re even.
His green card was revoked. He’s in a holding cell awaiting a hearing, Nuce try at gaslighting, Tony.
Shouldn’t you be yelling at your friends in the EU for jailing people over memes and prayers?
We’re not going to grant citizenship to terrorist sympathizers. You leftists are so inept that we have to do YOUR job for you.
Sarc I muted you so I don’t have deal with your nonsense, so don’t bother replying to me.
He wouldn’t have been put in a cage under the other guy. I’m just for freedom, that’s all.
Sucks getting your own Marcusian "liberating tolerance" shoved back in your face, doesn't it?
Sucks for people to be harmed for no reason, sure.
Guess your side shouldn't have set the rules, then.
He is a Nazi. But even Nazis have rights.
Camping is illegal everywhere in New York City except for one National Park Service unit. (The federal government can ignore local laws.) He and his fellow lawbreakers should have been prosecuted for the illegal encampment.
However the illegal encampment would have been at most a misdemeanor and such doesn't get you kicked out of the US.
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Nobody cares. Get him out of here immediately.
I wouldn't work for an institution that doesn't value Palestinian lives.
That's basically admitting he's a terrorist.
From what I've read, this fellow has actually broken any of our laws - he wasn't one of the people who was participating in the illegal encampments but he did speak on their behalf as a negotiator with the university. That's why the university didn't take any disciplinary action against him and why no one has actually charged him with any crimes.
So yeah, the Trump administration is trying to revoke his green card and deport him for his opinions. Not because he committed any crimes under our laws but because they don't like the things that he said.