We're Overdue To End Daylight Saving Time
The government experiment in socially engineering the country into less energy use raised costs.

On Sunday, Arizonans, Hawaiians, and residents of several U.S. territories happily went about their days with no need to worry about a task that annoys most Americans; we didn't have to change our clocks to accommodate the annual switch to daylight saving time. And we won't have to switch back to standard time in the fall because that's what our clocks display year-round. A majority of our countrymen would like to join us in benevolently neglecting our clocks' time settings.
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Americans Want To Stop Changing Their Clocks
"As the March 9 switch to daylight saving time (DST) approaches in the U.S., the majority of Americans (54%) say they are ready to do away with the practice," Gallup reported last week. That's a huge shift from the 1990s, when almost three-quarters of Americans thought changing their clocks twice a year was a fine idea. This is an area of rare bipartisan agreement, with majorities of both Democrats and Republicans eager to ditch clock changes.
A plurality of 48 percent favors keeping standard time all year; 24 percent would put daylight saving time in place throughout the year.
Two years ago, YouGov pollsters also found a majority (62 percent) favored ending the clock-switching ritual. But respondents in that poll were evenly divided over whether clocks should be permanently set to standard time or daylight saving time. Fatigue over fiddling with clocks and screwing up schedules was the unifying factor. Adjusting clocks is a century-long experiment with which people are weary.
"Daylight saving time was introduced at the national level in 1918, the last year of World War I, when the U.S. sought to conserve fuel by extending daylight working hours as a wartime necessity," notes Gallup. It was reimposed during World War II, then became a local option until 1966. That year federal law changed to allow states to opt in or out of clock changes so long as they did so statewide (except for those straddling time zones that could split the difference).
Since then, the federal government has fiddled with the start and stop dates several times. There was a brief experiment during the 1970s energy crunch with year-round daylight saving time. It proved wildly unpopular and was ended by Congress.
Completely pulling the plug on twice-annual time resets would make sense. While clock-switching has its misguided fans, the practice was born from a promise of cost-savings that never came to fruition. For most of us, it imposes more costs than benefits.
DST Increases Energy Use and Imposes Health Risks
"Recent research suggests that DST actually increases energy use," Laura Grant, a professor of economics at Claremont McKenna College, wrote in 2016. Grant coauthored a study with Yale economist Matthew Kotchen examining Indiana which, straddling time zones, only partially observed daylight saving time until 2006 when the practice went statewide. "We showed that DST had actually increased residential electricity demand in Indiana by 1 to 4 percent annually," she added.
The extra energy use occurred during summer. With more daylight, people run air conditioners longer.
There are also unpleasant health effects. In 2024, Shinsuke Tanaka, of the University of Connecticut's Department of Agricultural and Resource Economics, also looked at Indiana which makes for a good case study because of its abrupt and relatively recent change.
"Tanaka found a 27% increase in the number of heart attacks in Indiana for two weeks after springing ahead when the entire state started practicing DST compared to the year before, while no significant impact was observed at the fall transition," the University of Connecticut reported. "Tanaka found that the increase in the number of heart attacks remained relatively consistent from year-to-year."
Tanaka attributed the surge in heart attacks to disrupted sleep routines from clock changes.
Findings of increased energy costs and dangerous medical events certainly mean higher costs from forcing people to change their clocks twice a year. But how much? Well, let's look at the time involved in jabbing buttons and turning knobs to reset clocks. In 2008, the economist William F. Shughart II of the Independent Institute did just that.
Forced Clock Changes Cost Billions Every Year
"The U.S. Department of Labor's Bureau of Labor Statistics reports that the average American's hourly wage was $17.57 in September 2007. Assuming that it takes everyone 10 minutes to move all of their clocks and watches forward or backward by an hour, the opportunity cost of doing so works out to $2.93 per person," Shughart wrote. He extrapolated the costs across the U.S. population, excluding those who live in areas exempt from such chronological shenanigans. The cost of two clock changes per year, he estimated, was $1.7 billion in 2008 dollars.
In 2013, Mark J. Perry of the American Enterprise Institute revisited the issue and estimated that inflation and population growth had increased the annual cost of changing clocks to $2 billion. A quick run through the CPI inflation calculator at the Bureau of Labor Statistics reveals that inflation alone has since increased that to over $2.5 billion. Perry also suggested that more costs could be expected in the unsynchronized schedule changes between Americans and overseas business partners as clocks change in some countries on different dates than in the U.S. or not at all.
Last year, Chmura Economics and Analytics looked at the cost of daylight saving time in U.S. metropolitan statistical areas based on "evidence that the DST change led to an increase in heart attacks (myocardial infarctions), strokes, workplaces injuries (in specific industries), and traffic accidents." The financial firm put the cost of clock changes at $672.02 million annually. "This includes $374.75 million from increased heart attacks, $251.53 million from increases in strokes, $18.35 million from additional workplace injuries, and $27.39 million from increases in traffic accidents."
Obviously, there's wiggle room when it comes to estimating the total costs of forcing people to reset their clocks and their schedules twice each year. But it's hard to argue that clock changes benefit anybody except that subset of the population that really wants more daylight in the evening. For most of us, the impact of changing our clocks is measured in lost time, expense, and increased health risk.
Daylight saving time was a paternalistic government experiment in socially engineering the country into less energy use by fiddling the clocks. Like most government gimmicks, it doesn't work as advertised. Let's get the government out of the business of telling us to how to set our clocks.
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"Assuming that it takes everyone 10 minutes to move all of their clocks and watches forward or backward by an hour"
This estimate may be accurate for technologically illiterate, clueless, obsolete right-wing culture war casualties. However, they will be gone soon, as nature knows to correct its misdrafts.
As I mostly check time through my phone and other devices, the clock change happened automatically.
Welcome to modernity. The air is thin for right wingers around these parts.
Fuck off and die, steaming pile of lefty shit.
Sevo, I apologize as I asked you before, but I'd really like to know: do those clouds EVER respond to you after you yell at them?
I understand modern technology far better than you ever could. You’re just a leftist retard. I suspect you’re far behind the curve compared to everyone here but your Marxist circle jerk squad.
Barely verbal, deeply hurt, seething, out-competed monkey right-wing brain without an education says what?
You’re incredibly stupid. But keep going. Each post helps turn non subnormals away from, your cause.
Once you and others wake up to the realities that are on the horizon, donnie will turn people away from your cause more effectively than anyone else could. See you in two years.
I look forward to that. If your kind keep up on your current trajectory, we will sweep the midterms.
Of course, the democrats will sweep the mid-terms.
The people of America love inflation, sending billions of their tax dollars to the Ukraine, open borders and a POTUS that shakes hands with his imaginary friends.
What's not to love?
Americans also love elite democrats wagging fingers, and lecturing them about being selfish for not sacrificing everything, even their own children, to the Marxist democrat leviathan.
The democrats are a weak alternative, thats why we ended up with this.
“See you in two years.”
Lol. Adjective Artie and other sore losers favorite lament. Victory over the bitter clingers is always just around the corner.
Seethe harder, 5. Your victory will remain illusive as the impressionable youth outgrow your poison ideology, as they always have.
Haha. What a doosh.
Youre not getting the gyst of what I'm saying, as is par for the course for defeated right-wing incels. You are way too drunk on your temporary political stunt, even though your leader could care less about your interests, which is why young voters will soon wake to what they navigated themselves into. The fact that there are no women in your obsolete, obese, underresourced, undereducated orbit should be an initial hint to you. But you are free to continue to be a dead end of human development.
Welcome back Reverend!
Feeling fully honered.
Wait... are you telling me your cell phone doesn't have a three hand clock on it? Next you're going to try and convince me it's not even a rotary dial!
How are you actually getting more retarded buddy?
Daylight savings is a kulture war!! Lol. What a fucking idiot.
Technological illiteracy is part of the culture war. It is par for the course that illiterate, defeated, impotent right-wing rejects like JesseAZov miss this point.
Oh come on. Jesse's not illiterate. He reads Dr. Seuss. And a book about game theory that proved that Adam Smith, Hayek, Friedman and every other economist who contradicts Trump is wrong.
Look at sarc flirt with the other leftist trolls lol.
God damn you pathetic fucks. Fucking hilarious this is what you've become though. Lol.
You’re a technological Luddite too. Probably comes from spending nearly your entire adult life blackout drunk.
I agree, it would suit a russian asset like JesseAZov to be blackout drunk 24 7
That was obviously meant for Sarc. But I’ll bet you jacked it furiously when you saw that.
But then, you’re a dumb pinko cunt. Best you just learn to obey.
Given the prevalence of masturbation fantasies in your comments, you guys really dont have any pussy in your lives huh? Thank god women are naturally repelled by right-wing degenerates.
That was meant for Sarc. Obviously.
Okay hun, we know this embarrassed you a lot, and that must hurt given that this would have been the only thing you could have even gotten right, but alas, a right-wing ego is just always fragile and always on edge. I would pitty you, were you not so repulsive.
You didn't answer the question buddy.
Or... Technological illiteracy is part of the culture war and 5.56 is behind the last ~6,000 yrs. of trying, and failing, to make people do inane shit according his wishes.
After he finishes his war on culturally-backwards retards, he'll skip forward ~1,000 yrs. to finally put the kibosh on pendulum-driven escapements, another 2,000 yrs. and he'll finally rid us all of the scourge of blinking VCR displays.
It's like a culturally-irrelevant Monty Burns fight a culturally-irrelevant Abe Simpson and I'm pretty sure he's not Monty Burns.
Your right wing friends probably aren't responding as they are too hollow to see how your post is very entertaining. Im sorry you have to deal with them.
Their camp may have had a point when leftists were the tyrannical force and pushed it way too far (enabling the current events). But they are now demonstrating, with all their vigor, that once given a droplet of power, they are ready to abuse it with vindictive passion. I do not trust any of them with the NAP either.
Fuck off and die, slimy pile of lefty shit.
Did those clouds answer yet?
Can't fix boomer.
Weird how you, kar, and the other trolls are all using this lately. Sure you're not socking buddy? Lol.
Remember "ok boomer" from 6ish years ago? Sarc still thinks it's funny.
All of the leftist trolls have been using it lately. See kar yesterday.
Decimal douche is seemingly stupid enough to think that only Leftists use technology? Guess it's not really that surprising, given that 5.56 is its approximate IQ.
No, not binary as in use or not use. But right wingers are frequently in need of more... "support" when they try to use it.
Yes, we know you’re ’non binary’. Did you get your ‘gender affirming care’ and have them rip you a new one yet?
A primitive association based on nitpicked words because the meaning of the sentence can't be found. I think you may not even have a high school diploma. Poor thing.
Nah, 5.56 is the number of sigmas I'm right shifted. Like I always say when right-wingers exhaust their creativity in calling this number my IQ, small minds truly think alike. I am just not afflicted with terminal sock puppet paranoia that would make me think you are all the same person because of this, I know that degenerate right-wing human residue truly is this uniformly and predictably mentally impaired.
You are welcome to try and research what that strange "sigma" thing means, clinger, I would be happy to see one of you get an education in the course of addressing their comprehension problems.
Wow. I haven't seen someone masturbate this hard about their own assumed intellectual superiority since grad school.
Its more to insult those right wing incels. They are very fragile and easily triggered.
You’re obviously a moron.
Case closed.
Nah, 5.56 is the number of sigmas I'm right shifted.
When looking into a mirror, remember that left is right, and right is left, hence you’re really left shifted and fully retarded.
This is... a narcissistic inbreds repulsive attempt at being creative as he has been pushed into a corner, but he misses that he comes across as deeply childish and that this reveals how hurt he really is. You must truly be an embarrassing, repulsive misfit wherever you go in real life.
Ok, sigma soyboi. Ligma balls.
I am not interested in those homosexual engagements, without a doubt something trending among those whose handles would feature "USMC".
That's exactly how long it took me to reset four watches, a microwave, an alarm clock, a stove, and the clock hanging on the kitchen wall. No need to be insulting, dear.
Im sorry i hurt your feelings.
You know, not all clocks automatically change -- wall clocks, clocks in cars, stoves, and microwaves, some watches (yes, it still makes sense to wear a regular watch), etc -- and last I checked, it's still possible to buy these without internet connections.
As a web developer who's had a bit of experience with authentication and security issues, I cannot help but suggest that it's madness to try to internet all the things!
And Statist Slaver troglodytes like you are apparently ignorant of the one clock we cannot change on the first day of Daylight "Saving": the circadian rhythm every human, animal, and plant is born with. Best-case scenario to changing that clock is 1 week, but often it takes longer.
I never said keep on changing times. I only said right-wingers - clumsy, obsolete, out-compteted, incomptent and easily replaced as they are - may suffer substantial productivity cuts if required to reset their clocks. One needs to be careful not to task them with anything too intricate.
Yet every one of us here is far more intelligent than you. Stronger too. Without a doubt, if you met any of us face to face you wouldn’t say shit if you had a mouthful of it. And would apologize profusely to avoid a much deserved beating.
That’s because you’re a pussy.
I would guess youre under 5 foot 5 and have a remarkably ugly, asymmetrical face. You are so embarrassingly childish and behind, you are either a laughing stock, or a cringeworthy but tolerated supporter of your right-wing incel group, as you stay at the lowest end of the food chain.
I would guess you are over 5 foot 5, in diameter, and a neck-bearded, mouth-breathing, pedo Jeff wannabe. Why is it always soyboi feminazis throwing around terms like "incel"? We get it, you're a cuck who gets off on little boys.
Greetings LosieUSMC, I am 5.56, nice to meet you. Regarding your question, I hear that obsolete, defeated right-wing rejects, especially those of the military type, have great trouble navigating the modern, civilian world due to their mental ineptitude, lack of education and thus depency on government-given support structures. It is therefore not surprising to see that someone whose handle contains "USMC" is unaware of the definition of incel. Whatever your parallel, not-so-relevant military definition may be, I assure you it has nothing to do with boys. It merely describes the state of being sexless against ones will, as is a very common feature in impotent, insufficient, seething culture war casualties whose powerless, offended gurgling can be heard when another piece of progress and modernity is being shoved down their throats by their betters, victors of the culture war.
There is no longer a culture war. It is over. You lost. It is just that there are a few wankers such as yourself out there that haven't gotten the memo yet.
Potentially, with this administration, it may turn into more than just culture. This leader is really not on your side, unless you are on a side that 99.999...% of people are excluded from due to their net worth.
Is that a threat, progtard?
Somebody as weak, small, obsolete and laughed at as you seems to feel easily threatened.
Nobody is threatened by you. You're hilarious, in a sad pathetic way, and in the real world nobody even knows you exist.
As always, the military right-winger is cognitively slow, not well-informed and demonstrates a consistent inability to assess situations accurately. You may like to visit the thread on doge and foia requests, where i just had 3 threatened, fragile, defeated, SHIVERING right-wing degenerates rejoice at the prospect of me staying away from reason due to it's right-wing levels of usability. You are welcome to understand how to use a browser and see for youself, VinniUSlessMC.
LOL - They did the (Babylon Bee) Thing:
Experts warn that recent school shootings show growth in new radicalization pattern
Two recent school shootings are highlighting what extremism researchers see as a growing — and poorly understood — trend among young people who embrace mass violence.
The attacks, at high schools in Madison, Wis., and Nashville, Tenn., defy categories that law enforcement and researchers have long used to understand radicalization pathways, such as radical Islamist terrorism and white nationalist terrorism. Instead, some researchers say these attacks are examples of "nonideological" terrorism. They say these attacks appear to be the result of several antisocial, decentralized, online networks coming together in ways that encourage and inspire younger children to commit atrocities.
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Also, a subculture referred to as Saints Culture, which venerates mass killers as almost superhuman figures, frames high-casualty attacks as the ultimate and only legacy worth emulating. Other online movements, such as No Lives Matter, promote nihilism as justification for violence.
Experts say the result of this melding of communities has been a change in the profile of individuals mobilized to mass violence.
"Young Black men, for instance," said Kriner, noting Henderson's background. "This is not something we've seen in the trend of school shooters, especially when we look at it within the context of what the U.S. calls '[the racially motivated violent extremism] RMVE' or Canadians call the 'ideologically motivated violent extremism' space."
“Young Black men, for instance," said Kriner, noting Henderson's background. "This is not something we've seen in the trend of school shooters,”
Is that because the media just calls those instances “gang violence”?
They all skip school.
Pick one and stay with it. Don't care which.
That's because you are a couch spud and don't play sports. Otherwise, you'd be all over moving clocks back for daylight.
You know, I think I'd rather stick with standard time. Daylight until 9:30 at night sucks.
If the liquor stores keep the same hours of operation, what difference does it make to you?
Too many people see you with your hand in your pants.
Stick with standard time. The sun should be due south at noon.
If you want an extra hour of daylight for sports in the evening, get your damn ass out of bed an hour earlier. If kids are 'walking to school in the dark', convince your local school board to move the start time for school back an hour. (I intentionally put 'walk to school' in scare quotes because almost nobody lets their kids do that anymore, making it a nonsense excuse.)
FIFY
You could also just pick a different time to play.
DST is for degenerates who want to stay up every night until 11:00 but are also afraid of the dark.
Stop foisting your weird lifestyle choices on everyone else.
Keep what we have. Don’t change anything. Don’t care what your drunk ass thinks.
I sure hope that poll had an option for "I don't care which one they pick, just pick one and stick with it".
The extra energy use occurred during summer. With more daylight, people run air conditioners longer.
This seems like nonsense though. Am I supposed to believe that people don't run the A/C when it's hot but dark for some reason? I will grant that living in New Mexico may bias my thoughts on this subject. I will probably be turning on the A/C around April, and running it through October.
I've never seen an AC panel that moderates based on light instead of temp.
Nest does based on occupancy. Do if you are sleeping and not moving around it is making your house warmer.
Neither have I. Usually we just keep the AC the same day or night in the Midwest and South due to the humidity.
Also, changing the clocks forward/backward an hour doesn't change the amount of daylight in a 24hr period.
No, but it absolutely changes the amount of daylight outside work/school hours.
You know, we could change work and school hours…
Easier to maintain the status quo.
Work at night!
Genius!!
It's not nonsense. Many people set their thermostat based on their family activity patterns. We tolerate slightly higher temps (in summer, lower in winter) when we're asleep and substantially higher (or lower) when the family is at work & school. For commercial/retail, many places turn the system off entirely at the end of the workday.
And, yes, your experience is skewed by living in NM. In northern states, there are many places that don't have AC at all because there is no point in the year that we really need it. (On the other hand, our furnaces are huge and multiply-backed up.)
Mostly what I was came to say, but I would add that in the northern areas in particular, if one has AC then one can shut if off at bedtime or an hour or so later (or at least that's what I do). If it got dark an hour earlier by the clock, then it would start cooling faster earlier and the AC can be shut back earlier.
Also, while many people do indeed enjoy light after supper, there are those of us who are done at that point. Personally, I'd far rather have the sun rising before 5AM in July so that I can get out and garden for a few hours before it gets too hot.
And no, it's not a zero sum change with the AC, at least here. After turning the thing off, we open the windows. AC is off in the house when people go to work, and only needed for those few hours while we're up in the evening. YMMV if you live in TX or NM, but in New England (outside of cities) this works.
"The cost of two clock changes per year, he estimated, was $1.7 billion in 2008 dollars."
What utter bullshit.
I bet that study was funded by a federal grant, wasn't it?
That is like saying it "costs" $5.3 billion for people to sit at red lights, so we should get rid of traffic lights.
They've replaced a few lights with big roundabouts around here and the vast majority of the time it's preferable to pointlessly waiting for the light to change. Though there are a few times of day where I will make a point of avoiding them, like when school gets out.
The optimal type of control (or lack of any) at an intersection depends on local factors, chiefly traffic volumes.
Yeah, the changing itself isn't the part that bugs me nearly as much having to try and shift my circadian rhythm without a clutch. I don't have that many clocks which require manual adjustment in my life.
Exactly this.
My dog takes about a week to adjust to the time changes. I swear that MF'r can tell time but has no concept of ST or DST.
Other than her feeding schedule, I don't care one way or another.
Got up and went to feed the dog this morning before I left, and he acted like, "Fuck this, I'm sleeping in."
Fuck off. I live on the Eastern edge of the Central Time Zone. Without DST, sundown at the summer solstice here would be ~7:30.
Maybe we should be campaigning for smaller time zones instead. I Iive on the Eastern edge of one and have the opposite problem.
There are about 38 different time zones right now, spanning about 28 hours, some of which change on 30min or 15min increments.
I pick Daylight savings for the whole year!
Everyone wants to get rid of it, but it largely depends on which side of the time zone you're on.
Let's just do the Eastern time zone:
In New England, the far east of Eastern, it should really be Atlantic Time year-round (equivalent to year round DST), but NYC business hours trump sanity.
Near Buffalo, people are golfing until 10 PM.
So if you're in the eastern part, you probably want permanent Daylight time, if you're west, you likely want permanent standard time so you're not going to bed at sunset like a toddler, and if you're somewhere in between, maybe you just don't care and just want to end the insanity.
As you approach the equator, you might also want later sunlight as the days are less variable in length than as you approach the poles. Not sure, I don't live in the south. It sure was nice to have daylight until 6PM in December when I was down there, though. I have to drive home from work in the dark for about 4-5 months every year.
Also any summer business on the eastern edge of the time zone needs those extra daylight hours in spring/summer/fall. Yeah, you can personally get up whenever you want to "simulate" the time you like, but your employer is still going to say "9-5" whether it's light or dark out. Where I live, standard time would mean a latest possible sunset of something like 7:18. You can't even squeeze in 9 holes after work on that. The kids can't play outside as late. It's awful.
So yes a slim majority wants to end it, but there is zero agreement on how to do so. I'm in the "permanent DST is the correct time" camp for where I live, being on the far eastern edge of a time zone in the north where the earliest December sunset is about 4:04 PM. Might as well go live in Alaska at that point!!
No, plenty of us like it. It does not need to change.
Yes, DST all year!
Democrats are waiting to hear what Trump wants to do about Daylight Savings, so they can be against it.
That is probably the truest comment of the day.
As we move (in spite of the Trump effect) towards a more interconnected world, changing to one or the other makes life easier. As it is, if one has a call or zoom with someone in another country around clock change time, there is always some confusion about times; have country X moved to summer mode yet, or are they non-movers, or move but not yet.
Let's settle on standard time ("standard time".... there was reason it was named as such!), and if one day a week some executive or politician wants to eat supper early and then go play golf, he can cut out of work early. Leave the rest of us in peace.
We'd get there faster if we didn't have TDS-addled piles of shit like you around.
Fuck off and die, asshole.
That's your best argument?
What kind of argument do you expect from someone who's on the same side of you on this issue, but is frustrated that you let other issues trump this one.
He can only play golf or dine out if those places are open and staffed.
It all depends on most everyone changing behaviors in response to available daylight acting in lockstep.
This year, instead of setting all my clocks that allow setting ahead a full hour at the start of DST, I set them ahead 35 minutes; that way, instead of being 20 minutes late to everything, I can be five minutes early.
You'll be 45 minutes late, then. Your clock will show 5:35 when everyone else's shows 6.
I 100% disagree. DST is ON from March to November, about 2/3 of the year. It's very valuable to me to have that extra daylight in the evenings. If we went to standard time year round, sunrise would take place at 4:30 AM on June 21 where I live. Standard Time would be "Daylight WASTING Time".
I vote Hell No! on this idea.
Get your lazy ass out of bed. Stop foisting the consequences of your moral failings on the rest of us.
And here we have the basic issue: this has become a matter of personal taste, with pro- and opponents digging in their heels.
I suspect that we're at the compromise solution already.
(And earliest sunrise here in SE New England would be 4:05 to 4:10 AM if we kept to standard time. Whereas DST sunset is until 8:20 - 8:30 PM which leaves me with about 90 minutes wasted after the dishes are cleaned up - still too hot to do anything.)
And I suspect that we're at the "Get Congress Off Its Lazy Ass and Make a Change" solution.
You are a fucking idiot. Are his kids going to school at 4:30, you twerp? No doubt a retired person who does nothing anyway.
We just need to find a way to move the earth's axis to perfectly perpendicular to the sun so the dawn and sunset are the same, 365 days a year.
Just move prime meridian and shift all the other sectors accordingly. 😉
Screw time zones too.
With digital time keeping and simple algorithms, we can have minutes and seconds of variable length, so that at every point on earth, sunrise is 06:00, 12:00 is solar noon, and 18:00 is sunset.
If 24 meridians are good, then an infinite number is better.
Kwitcher bichin.
Congress tried permanent daylight saving time in 1974. It was so unpopular that Congress repealed it within nine months.
Eliminating daylight saving time makes sense, so you can bet neither party will vote for its demise.
DST works great. We don’t need to change a thing.
Case closed.
Here I am at 38 degrees north, mid point of the country.
At it's darkest, sunset is 4:40pm in early December, standard time.
Yesterday sunset was 6:02pm, a wonderful improvement provided by the annual orbital migration.
And today, sweet daylight persists until 7:04pm, and as the months march along, will provide outdoor fun until almost 9pm while avoiding having sunrise be at the pesky and wasted hour of 04:30 standard time it would be in June.
And the great part of it all is instead of me trying to get work to shift hours to fit the available daylight, and daycare, and school, and the grocery store, and my wife's job, we instead did it all at once.
What a brilliant stroke of genius.
Daylight saving allows us to move to the daylight to when it can best be used by as many as possible.
You fail to recognize that the best things in summer happen after dark.
IMHO, the reason our rulers refuse to do away with the bi yearly time changes despite the public clamor, is, it's a twice yearly reminder that they are in charge and we are their serfs. It's as simple as that.
Does longitudinal air travel increase one's risk of heart attack?
Maybe if clock-changing were less fashionable to gripe about, people would be less affected by it.
The power to force hundreds of millions of people out of bed an hour early must be orgasmic to those who hold it, so we can rest assured DST is here to stay.
re: "Does longitudinal air travel increase one's risk of heart attack?"
Yes. In that context, it's known as 'jet lag' and its adverse health consequences are quite well documented.
A couple of other negative aspects to clock changing:
1. Cows don't take well to being milked at different times. This is why Wisconsin was the last state to adopt DST.
2. There was a study done in Indiana when that state made DST a county option that showed that high school students in counties with the time change had lower IQs than ones in those that stayed on Standard Time. That suggests that one reason we're stuck on DST is to improve the odds of reelection for our parasites in public office.
Ditch the time change and do DST year round.
In amy case, DST won't end as long as Trump or DeSantis or Rubio or Scott is President. They all need the extra hour of daylight for the outfoor recreation industry.
Ed Malarkey , the very progressive senator from Massachusetts is one of DSTs biggest fans. Never could figure out why but think it’s because he likes to have an extra hour of daylight to cruise for young men.
DST all year round - because I'd rather drive to work in the dark and not have the fucking sun in my eyes, than leave work at sunset in the winter - cold and grey are depressing enough.
Can't agree, then split the fucking difference - move it back one half hour only in the fall and leave it there.
So why not get your employer to adjust your work schedule at certain times of the year so you don't have to drive in the dark or have the sun in your eyes? And you can't move the clocks any more/less than hour increments.
I remember when DST used to be for half the year and we wouldn’t spring forward until the end of April which made more sense because it wasn’t pitch black in the morning by then.
I don’t really care if we go with permanent DST or standard time, but springing forward messes me up for a week at least, so just pick one and be done with it.
Yup. Definitely the magazine of stupid, rage bait to drive comments.
This entire article is supported by shit as tenuous as a study that shows as low as 1% increase in energy usage, at a very specific location, on the very edge of a time zone, and acts as though that's going to be universally applicable.
Arizona is in the same time zone as San Diego (right now -- they don't change), but the sun rises a full hour earlier in Willcox. Las Vegas is like 40 minutes ahead of San Francisco. St George the sun sets 40 minutes later than Denver. Etc.
Every place is different, based on latitude and longitude, and so every place will have different responses to moving the work day an hour one way or the other. Do the same study in San Francisco, Salt Lake City, Denver, and Kansas City and you'll have different results. Do the same in San Diego, Phoenix, El Paso, Birmingham and Miami and you'll get wildly different results.
Fuck, this place hires stupid people to write. And it chooses stupid topics meant just to be divisive. It's Buzzfeed, except nowhere near as popular.
Yeah, I'm sure the economy loses $2 billion when we take 10 minutes on a Sunday morning to change our clocks. But a better use of that time is making sure we don't overuse our share of the 500 million straws we throw in the oceans every day.
How about a much simpler argument that it pisses off every single American that has to deal with it.
How about that? Democracy. We've had enough of DST. You don't need to rationalize reasons for it. We just friggin' hate it.
"Every single American"?
Speak for yourself, dude. I LOVE DST. Solar noon today was 12:04 pm here. DST is perfect for me.
Ultimately it depends on if you are a morning person or night person. If you go to bed at 7 pm and get up at 4 am, I guess DST is bad. But for people who like to do things after work when it's nice and warm out, it's a godsend
Why not just adjust the times YOU do things in the summer rather than making the entire country change their clocks? Would be a much simpler exercise.
It doesn't matter what the costs/savings are or are not, it's a pointless exercise twice a year. Put it back in the fell to standard time and leave it alone. The United States runs from UTC-5 (east coast) to UTC-8 (west coast), it should always be that way.
Most of what I'm reading here is why people want one thing or the other because of how it affects them personally. So adjust the entire country rather than adjust your own personal schedule.