Possible Travel Bans Coming
Plus: The Trump administration's American dream revisionism, 50 theses on DOGE, what people get wrong about extreme MAGA, and more...

Trump 2.0 looks mighty different from Trump 1.0 but there are a few crucial areas of overlap. His penchant for tariffs is one of those things, as covered yesterday. His fixation on projecting strength at the border is another. But now it's looking like President Donald Trump will also be reviving another first-term relic that threw people into chaos and instability and ignited some of the earliest #resistance actions: travel bans.
"A draft recommendation circulating inside the executive branch proposes a 'red' list of countries whose citizens Mr. Trump could bar from entering the United States," several White House officials tell The New York Times. That red list will most resemble the first-term travel ban list, possibly including Afghanistan, Cuba, Iran, Libya, North Korea, Somalia, Sudan, Syria, Venezuela, and Yemen. It's likely the list will be released within the next two weeks.
Afghans who have been traveling outside the country, who are on valid visas, have been urged to come back immediately lest they get shut out of the country, reports Reuters. And the tens of thousands of Afghans cleared for refugee resettlement or Special Immigrant Visas because of their roles in aiding the U.S. military during the war (as well as their legitimate fears of Taliban retribution for their roles), believe their status to be jeopardized.
The draft recommendation also lists an "orange" group of countries, where visa access may be restricted, possibly limited only to people traveling for business (not tourism), and shortened. Applicants from those countries might also be required to have in-person interviews, all in an effort to weed out poorer and more desperate people from coming and overstaying their visas.
"In one of the many executive orders he issued on Inauguration Day, Mr. Trump ordered the State Department to start identifying countries 'for which vetting and screening information is so deficient as to warrant a partial or full suspension on the admission of nationals from those countries,'" reports the Times.
Bessent is confused: "Access to cheap goods is not the essence of the American dream," Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent said yesterday during a speech to the Economic Club of New York. "The American Dream is rooted in the concept that any citizen can achieve prosperity, upward mobility, and economic security. For too long, the designers of multilateral trade deals have lost sight of this."
Trump Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent today in NYC: "Access to cheap goods is not the essence of the American Dream"
— Jeff Stein (@JStein_WaPo) March 6, 2025
I'm not sure what Bessent thinks upward mobility means if not being able to more easily afford things that make people's lives better, full of less labor and exertion, to be able to springboard oneself into a higher level of material comfort than before, and to not be bound by the class or circumstances into which one was born. It's easy to decry "cheap goods" and conjure up images of random stupid crap purchased on Amazon—a materialism that seems hollow and unnecessary. But "cheap goods" means washing machines and dishwashers that free us from the drudgery of household chores; it means "the infinite supply of everyday items," all the toothbrushes and nail clippers and pens and tennis balls and coffee mugs that keep our households running; it means cars and iPhones for people to be able to travel and communicate and stay connected more seamlessly than ever before. It's the lack of "cheap goods"—lumber, steel, aluminum parts, and nails—that has driven our housing prices up to such an untenable degree (among other things).
Access to cheap goods is very much the essence of the American dream; it should never be taken for granted that we live in a time of extraordinary material abundance, that our problems involve overnourishment, not undernourishment; how much work new technologies like artificial intelligence save us (and what will happen to people whose jobs get replaced); spiritual crises and atomization and fertility-rate woes that stem from people having so much freedom over how to live their lives. You could make the case that our material abundance has brought new problems, but it's not clear to me that the cheap goods are really the issue here, or that our new problems would be solved if the cheap goods were done away with. This is sort of just what happens when you move up the hierarchy of needs, when a society becomes more sophisticated and complex.
We live in an era of too much—too much noise, too many resources, too many things to which we're asked to give our attention—not an era of too little, for almost the first time in human history. Joseph Schumpeter was right; now all the factory girls have gotten their stockings and we're facing big questions of what to do next. Bessent appears to be selling short this modern miracle in service of promoting tariffs which will, in fact, make the American dream harder to achieve.
"Wall Street's done great, Wall Street can continue doing well. But this administration is about Main Street," Bessent said later in his speech. No, it's not. The policies this administration is pursuing will greatly harm the poorest Americans, and all for what?
Scenes from New York: Curious what other people have noticed. My lower Manhattan parish was absolutely packed for the 6:30 p.m. service.
A question for Catholic X followers: At my local parish in Princeton, there was an enormous turn out of people to receive ashes for Ash Wednesday (despite a soaking rainstorm). I've never seen anything like it. What was the turnout at your parish? Is something happening?
— Robert P. George (@McCormickProf) March 6, 2025
QUICK HITS
- Possibly the worst example of malicious compliance I've seen yet: "The Air Force briefly removed new recruit training courses that included videos of the Tuskegee Airmen soon after Trump's [diversity, equity, and inclusion] order," reports the Associated Press.
- A follow-up to something I noted earlier in the week: Apparently, no offensive cyber operations directed at Russia have been halted, and no such order was given.
TO BE CLEAR: @SecDef has neither canceled nor delayed any cyber operations directed against malicious Russian targets and there has been no stand-down order whatsoever from that priority. https://t.co/OxGK0aQXN1
— DOD Rapid Response (@DODResponse) March 4, 2025
- "DOGE in its Elon [Musk] iteration is much more focused on two metrics: number of federal employees and dollars saved," writes Statecraft's Santi Ruiz (who also happens to be one of my good friends), stapling his 50 theses to the digital door. "I have been told that given the political pressures on it, DOGE is focusing staffers on projects that have a figure associated with them, either headcount or dollar spend. Those are brute metrics that are quite vulnerable to Goodhart's law: 'When a measure becomes a target, it ceases to be a good measure.' I do think there's plenty of wasteful spending in the federal government, and one of the upsides of DOGE is clearly the potential of creating a federal culture that is more aware of how it spends taxpayer dollars (more on this shortly)."
- "This may surprise some people who think that Trump is super callous, but these guys are really disturbed by seeing bodies in the streets," says Vanity Fair writer James Pogue on the latest Just Asking Questions. "There's something you can't really understand about MAGA, like the hardcore of MAGA, without understanding that. They feel the viscerality and reality of death and war in a way that a lot of neoliberal technocrats often don't." I really think that this Pogue episode, and the Matt Taibbi episode before it, are representative of what we're trying to do with this show: Eschew easy/boring mainstream media narratives and actually ask tough questions to people who are deeply sourced, have insider knowledge, and are dissatisfied with the typical simplistic explanations.
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Trump 2.0 looks mighty different from Trump 1.0...
Thanks to a weak #TheResistance.
Read this as “a week #TheResistance” and thought you were referring to the articles posted here over the last 7 days.
More like the last 7 weeks. Can't quite put my finger on what changed in late January...
“Possible sterilizations and beheadings coming” was their 2nd place heading.
...Trump will also be reviving another first-term relic that threw people into chaos and instability and ignited some of the earliest #resistance actions: Travel bans.
"Go be shitholes somewhere else."
At least she didn't say "Muslim bans".
That red list will most resemble the first-term travel ban list, possibly including Afghanistan, Cuba, Iran, Libya, North Korea, Somalia, Sudan, Syria, Venezuela, and Yemen.
Commies and Muslims, two groups that have enriched so many cultures.
Why were these countries taken off restriction? Obama's State Dept did a fine job making the list
+1 *Obama's* first-term travel ban list.
One of the keys to successful immigration is weeding out people who hate America. It's reasonable to question this of anyone from a country which teaches America is the Great Satan or the source of all evil.
But this is also why immigration is such a political conflict. Left wingers specifically want this group as anyone who hates America is their natural ally. So while we want educated people who can economically integrate and help America be great they want people who drag it down either as welfare clients or as participants in the bureaucratic corruption sinking our country.
Obama's State Dept did a good job of identifying Failed States and hostile rogue regimes where we could not trust ID or official background info when evaluating immigrants. Trump tried to codify it, and it excluded 8 of the 10 largest Muslim countries
No Russia?
Nope. Russian migrants haven't caused any issues that illegals from the listed countries have caused.
There was actually a period in Islamic history that it indeed enriched countries. There was a time when it had certain mathematicians, scientists, astronomers, etc. where Europe later adopted and built on their ideas. It was far from the culture that we see from Hamas.
The same cannot be said of communism. We had them beat on the Space Race!
So you guys interviewed a leftist Vanity Fair writer and he thought that everything was terrible?
Wow.
“and actually ask tough questions to people who are deeply sourced”
Starting at about 1:05 this idiot started ranting about MAGA influencers and they didn’t ask him a single tough question about who the fuck he was actually talking about.
He's clearly referring to Joe Rogan primarily, and probably guys like Clay Travis and Dave Portnoy. Which is ridiculous in and of itself, because of those three, only Travis can really be said to be on the right. The other two aren't much different from your average Gephardt liberal and lot of these dudes that voted for Trump started off as Bernie and/or RFK supporters.
But yeah, that's a foul to not ask these guys who they're specifically talking about when they bring this up, and what specifically makes them "MAGA influencers." Because it's clearly little more than a strawman he's arguing against.
"because of those three, only Travis can really be said to be on the right. The other two aren't much different from your average Gephardt liberal and lot of these dudes that voted for Trump started off as Bernie and/or RFK supporters."
They could learn a thing or two if they actually looked into their politics without writing them off as "MAGA" personalities.
As you say, Im pretty sure 2/3 of the ones listed hated Bush, voted for Obama, supported Bernie, and *ended up* voting Trump. Probably a lesson to be learned in terms of the overall mood/culture, if one has even the least bit of honest curiosity and *actually* wants to learn where people are at...instead of resorting to "MAGA! Bad!"
Among the many delusions of modern "liberals", the biggest one is that they already know everything and therefore can't possibly learn anything from looking into or listening to anyone who disagrees with them about anything.
Meanwhile I listened to about 20 minutes of that podcast and it was 20 minutes wasted.
Clay Travis is a former Democrat
"actually ask tough questions to people who are deeply sourced"
Forgive me if I dont put an extreme amount of weight on the "deeply sourced" appeal to authority.
Jake Tapper is widely touted among the MSM scum as "one of the most deeply sourced" in the industry. And he purposefully was involved in covering up Biden's decline, in public, for all to see.
Yeah, Tap Tap started off as an actual journalist and was one of the few not to get a tingle up his leg for Obama (though he obviously voted for him). But he went full Madow under Trump 1.0 and hasn't looked back.
I find his type of partisan hackery the most objectionable because he obviously knows he's doing it, like Jon Stewart or Sean Hannity. If your beliefs are for sale, you must consider putting a bullet through the roof of your mouth every night. (In this case, "must" meaning both "probably do" and "need to".)
Deeply sourced mean tight with the party leadership.
""And he purposefully was involved in covering up Biden's decline,""
Yeah, ask him about it and he will probably say well this is what the Whitehouse said. Tight with party leadership. Journalists ask question. He's a party mouthpiece.
The damning clip was him berating one of the Trump family members about her saying "he has a clear cognitive decline" and him responding with the Jeff-esque smoke screen techniques of:
- "how dare you, what do you think that makes kids that have a stutter feel like?! You monster"
- "are you a trained psycologist/psychiatrist?!?! What qualifies you to diagnose cognitive decline?!"
When he knows damn well almost every person on this earth has seen a grandparent losing their faculties, and also, that Biden has a, I dont know, 50ish year career in public like *NEVER FUCKING HAVING A STUTTER EVER* and he was just passing on a very blatant and obvious last-minute DNC talking point
That one should be included in the history books (who are we kidding, video clip reels) for "how to do propaganda"
Applicants from those countries might also be required to have in-person interviews, all in an effort to weed out poorer and more desperate people from coming and overstaying their visas.
Oh, my.
Sounds exactly like the last time I came back from a foreign country. They even looked through all my possessions!
Obama's State Dept did a good job of identifying Failed States and hostile rogue regimes where we could not trust ID or official background info when evaluating immigrants. Trump tried to codify it, and it excluded 8 of the 10 largest Muslim countries, and they called it a "Muslim Ban". It is strictly Security related.
The new Orange List may be economic related,
The policies this administration is pursuing will greatly harm the poorest Americans, and all for what?
To own the libs, Liz!
Hopefully to own you, you disgusting warmongering pedophile.
You are shallower than a puddle of water in the middle of Death Valley.
turd, the TDS-addled ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
The American Dream is rooted in the concept that any citizen can achieve prosperity, upward mobility, and economic security.
The American Dream is a Dollar General on every block.
Not really, because where Dollar General thrives they don't have "blocks". That is a city thing.
A Dollar General in a major city would be looted clean in minutes. That type of store can work only where the locals are civilized.
We've got them here in Baltimore and it doesn't get much worse than here.
Looks like Dollar General IS in urban neighborhoods AND are plagued with robberies and violence:
https://www.propublica.org/article/how-dollar-stores-became-magnets-for-crime-and-killing
Of course. Everything in urban neighborhoods is plagued with theft and violence.
*Progress*
DG avoids certain cities. And certain cities won't allow them, as they predatorily sell fresh food in the middle of food deserts while running the mom and pop stores out of business while not unionizing
Afaik, the only Dollar General stores here are in the suburbs of Denver not the city. But in the city there are Dollar Trees and Family Dollars and, better, Hispanic/Asian groceries where you can find misshapen produce and cheap meat like pig snouts and tripe and rabbit and such.
I'm not sure what Bessent thinks upward mobility means if not being able to more easily afford things that make people's lives better...
CONSUMERISM IS NOT GIGACHAD.
But "cheap goods" means washing machines and dishwashers that free us from the drudgery of household chores...
Me to the wife: "Trump won, which means we already have a dishwasher."
Sounds like one of those vintage all-in-one dishwasher, floor mopper, and sammich makers that were all the rage
This guy gets it.
The sandwich not asked for is one of life's greatest joys.
add to that the hot summer day's lemonade
You misspelled beer.
I dream of an America in which it's possible to have a pair of those... I hear digging, but I don't hear chopping!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=surkCGT2emA
Tell the wife every house already has a dishwasher and tell your accountant gas ovens are back.
Cheap stuff doesn't mean quality stuff. Chinese made shoes that fall apart after 1 wearing, leather chairs where the material is a thin as a balloon and will come apart within the year. Gillespie was crowing about someone buying a cheap washer and dryer when his current ones bit the dust after 12 years. Hell, I have an American made pair still working after 50 years. Prosperity is building a nest egg, maybe owning some property and be able to afford quality goods.
Hell stuff that can be repaired offers a slew of local middle class jobs that make a community a real thing.
In many ways, that sort of stuff disappeared when interest rates became more subsidized. Easier to just finance a new factory in Shithole based on interest rates and currency rather than supply/demand/profits
Why haven’t you done so?
Lesotho mayor criticizes Trump for giving them more publicity than they've ever had before.
https://news.sky.com/story/lesotho-minister-calls-trump-insulting-for-saying-nobody-has-heard-of-country-13322496?dcmp=snt-sf-twitter
Trump said nobody ever heard of Lesotho! We found this guy who has! Trump lies! - probably Sullum later today.
Apparently the Black Panther director knew the country and said Lesotho us whi he based Wakanda on.
Why does Wakanda need US aid?
So they can have transgender mice?
LIES!
(Kind of)
Grumble grumble
Just wait till the transgender mice demand to play in the woolly mammoth mice sports. Shit's gonna get crazy.
The mammoth mice will kick their butts.
Afghans who have been traveling outside the country, who are on valid visas...
They are here on visas because their country is unsafe but need to return from visiting said unsafe country so they aren't stuck there?
Cancun Spring Break!
Legal case forming around Biden exclusively using autopen for documents in lights of him not knowing about some of what he signed.
https://x.com/OversightPR/status/1897726502156091716
Calls into question a lot of the documents signed under Biden.
Remember, we are not supposed to question how Biden got the most votes for president ever.
Who knew that not campaigning and releasing videos from your basement would be a winning strategy with the 18 million mystery voters who popped up for the first time ever in 2020 only to disappear and never be heard from again.
Kammala should have tried that.
"unelected bureaucrats running the govt is the biggest threat to democracy!"
- democrats, today
I'll bet Musk has dozens of autopens.
Dipping those pens in a lot of different ink, too.
"unelected African American bureaucrats running the govt is the biggest threat to democracy!"
FTFY. He's not even from here!
Can't be. Sarcasmic reliably assured me that the Trumpers were all xenophobic and hated legal immigration, rather than illegal. Musk probably comes from Alabama or something. Just like Kash Patel, Trump's wife and Vance's in-laws.
Joseph Schumpeter was right; now all the factory girls have gotten their stockings and we're facing big questions of what to do next.
I don't know what this means but I wouldn't mind some pics.
Meh, I'd rather see bare ankles.
No, no, leave them on!
This is like a let-me-guess-how-old-you-are question:
Leave them on "> 55 yo"
Take them off "< 55 yo"
Prove me wrong.
I'm part of the latter, but watching reruns of The Nanny on Nick at Nite had a lasting impression.
I figured it was just a David Lee Roth reference.
That said, 48, and leave 'em on.
Well there goes that theory.
But this administration is about Main Street...
The Mom and Pop lobby finally got in the game.
Now the Mom and Pop NGOs will finally get some of that sweet USAID cash.
A follow-up to something I noted earlier in the week: Apparently, no offensive cyber operations directed at Russia have been halted, and no such order was given.
Greenhut says media lies are no big deal.
After being at the center of voter controversy in Arizona, Richer was voted out of office. He is the one who defended much of what was seen as corrupt during elections in Maricopa. It turns out that a month before he left office he ordered all election powers he had to be moved to the county board, who has also been accused of being corrupt.
Long story short, elections to remain corrupt in Arizona.
https://thefederalist.com/2025/03/07/a-battle-over-election-administration-is-brewing-in-arizonas-largest-county/
Can you guy's sue your way out?
AG is a Democrat. Governor is a Democrat. The latter already vetoed a passed law to stop the 10 day post election counts.
So you can't change the election laws to eliminating cheating by voting in opposition because they are rigging the vote, and you can't sue them.
Sounds like Eastern Europe in the Seventies.
I mean, I know that Arizonans have the tools to solve this problem, if the corrupt shits refuse to allow the ballot box to be a viable path to resolution.
1 terrif and consumption tax are the only relatively moral taxes
2. You can have civilization or Muslims, not both
"You can have civilization or Muslims, not both"
The EU finding this out the hard way. I give them another decade of unrestricted immigration before they completely learn this lesson
Well, they do have a civilization. The problem is, it’s not our (Western) civilization, it’s Islamic Civilization.
Blame Al-Ghazali.
Quick name me a single thing a Muslim has contributed to the world.
Note Aramaic math was befor those rag heads started praying to the pedofile mohamad
Food trucks.
Burning journalists alive?
I'm warming up to that idea.
It wouldn’t be the first time it was done in the West.
A civilization has a set of shared beliefs, values, ideas, writing system, along with other things. It need not contribute much, if anything. It usually sits in opposition to other world civilizations.
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar.
Ahem
I believe his name is Lou Al sinder
Ditto for cacious clay
His Mama named him Clay, imma going to call him Clay!
Where's the spoon?
"Quick name me a single thing a Muslim has contributed to the world."
Increased American patriotism in the early aughts?
I was going to say a new stable of movie villains to replace the Cold War commies.
At least 1994. True Lies. Jamie Lee Curtis. Ahnold.
Classic action masterpiece.
They just have to figure out that all those "boots on the ground" they're promising to Ukraine need 5x daily prayer accomodations.
Probably less disruptive than American soldiers needing time to dilate their fauxginas every day.
...there was an enormous turn out of people to receive ashes for Ash Wednesday (despite a soaking rainstorm). I've never seen anything like it. What was the turnout at your parish? Is something happening?
Last year Easter was replaced with Trans Day.
That was improvement over Easter canceled till we bend the curve. Baby steps.
I'm not sure cancerAIDS is better than malariaplague.
Access to cheap goods is very much the essence of the American dream…
No, Liz, it isn’t. That’s just crass consumerism. The “American Dream” is much more substantial than that. It’s the ability to own a house, some land, and to live freer and less encumbered by government than most anywhere else in the world. It is not cheap Chinese shit at Dollar General or from Temu that breaks after the second time you use it.
Just because a small consumer good is cheap doesn’t mean these same people can afford the house and land. There are plenty of places where you can buy the same cheap shit. These folks need to be able to earn enough money to afford that house and land, and that means actual jobs, particularly manufacturing, that pay enough to do so. And if it takes tariffs to get there, so be it. Sorry, but fuck the coasts and their incessant need for cheap Chinese shit.
Yeah, the consumerist thing is very much a phenomenon that germinated after World War II and flowered in the 1980s, as the Boomers entered the 20 year period of their highest money-earning years. And rather appropriately, it kicked off an ongoing period where savings rates plummeted below double digits for the first time, while credit card debt and personal debt overall went through the roof. I don't know about you or anyone else, but being thousands or even tens of thousands in credit card debt to buy a bunch of shit was never my idea of the American Dream.
It was always about being able to buy a home, whether it was a farm in the wilderness, a ticky-tack in the local village or suburbs, or an apartment in the city, in a relatively safe area, and be able to make a decent living with minimal interference from an overweening government. The consumer shit is relatively recent and was a side benefit, it wasn't the keystone or even the scaffolding.
Not to mention that a big reason we even have this culture of mass consumerism is due to the fact that we've spent a lot of the post WW2 period doing a lot of really nasty shit overseas to provide the resources that enable that standard of living, irrespective of how that might impact those societies. This isn't anything new and is a hallmark of global empires for thousands of years. But it doesn't have shit to do with the American Dream.
“Not to mention that a big reason we even have this culture of mass consumerism is due to the fact that we've spent a lot of the post WW2 period doing a lot of really nasty shit overseas to provide the resources that enable that standard of living, irrespective of how that might impact those societies”
Reason’s not really into the anti-war movement.
Credit card debt is over 1.2T.
https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/debt-balance-credit-cards
Responsibility is not a part of left libertarianism.
Reason and idiot CATO analysts... This is a good thing!
Holy shit, people make bad choices. So fucking WHAT!? It's not the government's job to regulate people's ability to make bad decisions.
ITL: “and to live freer and less encumbered by government than most anywhere else in the world”
RR: “make a decent living with minimal interference from an overweening government.”
Jesse: “Responsibility is not a part of left libertarianism.”
ATM: It's not the government's job to regulate people's ability to make bad decisions.
Good job buddy.
That debt isn’t just due to bad choices. It’s also due to everything being so much more expensive than it used to be. People with fast food jobs use credit cards to make ends meet. There is a cost to the cheap shit, and this is part of it. Remember, there are no solutions. There are only trade offs.
That debt isn’t just due to bad choices. It’s also due to everything being so much more expensive than it used to be.
So to solve this issue, we're going to slap 25% tariffs on all raw materials and imports and make everything more expensive!
Sigh.
You're intentionally ignoring the ask you reduce regulatory costs.
Your idealism is so shallow.
Tariffs add regulatory costs on top of existing regulatory costs.
Then there are the deadweight losses, and transferring wealth from American consumers to corporations, labor unions and the federal government.
Holy shit, people make bad choices. So fucking WHAT!?
I'm sorry, are you saying high consumer debt isn't actually a problem? Because that is something that directly affects their lives on the back end when they make those stupid choices.
It's not the government's job to regulate people's ability to make bad decisions.
What a fucking stupid-ass glittering generality. Government regulates this shit constantly. It's a bad decision to drive car 90 mph in a school zone. It's a bad decision to shoot an innocent person. It's a bad decision to molest a child. It's a bad decision to dump used motor oil in a river.
Libertarianism is not anarchism, and this kind of facile sloganeering isn't a political philosophy.
I'm sorry, are you saying high consumer debt isn't actually a problem? Because that is something that directly affects their lives on the back end when they make those stupid choices.
Yes, it does. People need to learn their debts. It's not a government policy issue. What are we calling for, Federal debt forgiveness? Joe Biden's eternal quest to get those poor students out of debt?
It's not a government policy issue.
The fuck it isn't. We wouldn't have bankruptcy or contract laws otherwise.
What are we calling for, Federal debt forgiveness?
LOL, where the fuck did this come from? But even that proves my point--when we get to a stage where excessive debt becomes a problem, suddenly everyone starts demanding that the government bail them out. Guess who pays for that?
Is it the governments responsibility to protect private property in any manner?
They already are.
Here is the problem with idealism like yours. It breaks so quickly in reality.
As soon as you get government to stop forcing me to pay for your choices, I have zero issues.
I see below that your entire belief system is as long as the system benefits you, even at the cost to others, you support it.
As soon as you get government to stop forcing me to pay for your choices, I have zero issues.
Says the guy that wants us all to pay tariffs.
I am proud to say that late last year, I got to a point where none of that was mine except for the rotating monthly expenses. But I wasn't carrying anything any more.
Yes.
But "cheap goods" means washing machines and dishwashers that free us from the drudgery of household chores; it means "the infinite supply of everyday items," all the toothbrushes and nail clippers and pens and tennis balls and coffee mugs that keep our households running; it means cars and iPhones for people to be able to travel and communicate and stay connected more seamlessly than ever before. It's the lack of "cheap goods"—lumber, steel, aluminum parts, and nails—that has driven our housing prices up to such an untenable degree (among other things).
Conflating "cheap goods" with everything is just silly. Bad Liz. What a load of shit.
No doubt. She was on a roll for a week or two. Sigh.
Hey, Liz. Houses aren't unattainable because of the price of nails. They're inflated partly because of government policy (tax breaks, tax incentives, eased lending requirements) and a huge decrease in the value of the dollar, but mostly because 85% of the country wants to live on the same 3% of the land.
Another shitty take by Liz. Did KMW read her the riot act or what?
I would argue self sufficiency was the heart of america... until consumerism and victimhood.
Even here Liz seems to put cheap TEMU goods over building a career or a good job.
I've said before the flaws in this model.
Offshore jobs. Increase welfare at home. Import more migrants to take those jobs.... but cheap Chinese shit!
It is a failing economic ideal.
This doesn't even get into the slavery, theft, market manipulations, etc of countries like China.
It is literally the cotton is cheap, so protect slavery argument.
The bad labor practices are happening "over there" where we do not have a say in it or see it much, so we can ignore them. Just like the environmental and energy standards, unlike the standards we impose on ourselves. The market is competing in unequal realms, and this seems to be with intent.
It is completely with intent. The foreign minister of China even admitted it a decade ago. Their long term goal is to stop US production by subsidizing markets, taking technologies, flooding the market. And once dependency is established, jack up prices.
It's like the supply and production issues during covid, that we are still fucking paying for, never happened.
Have you ever done a cost benefit analysis of tariffs as a solution to unfair trade practices?
The research I've seen has shown small, temporary improvements that are greatly outweighed by unintended consequences like increased prices, job losses and overall down-turned economy.
You've done a fine job pointing out the problem of unfair trade practices. Can you show your proposed solution would be a net gain?
Liz is right, you are wrong. Anyone who argues otherwise is practically spouting communist propaganda. It doesn't matter if you like the cheap, Chinese made shit or not, you're not allowed to decide if I can buy it.
There are things in life that I want or need and don't want to spend excessively on. When you make that stuff more expensive, you're taking money out of my pocket that I can't spend on other things.
This also comes off as absurdly elitist, too, with taking shots at Dollar Generals. What's wrong with Dollar General? There's a Dollar General where I live, it's closer than the supermarket, and sometimes I need to something cheap from there. A lot of people want to keep their costs down when shopping so they buy at the lowest prices they can find, and that's a good thing.
And you're not allowed to decide that your cheap goods take precedent from the theft China uses to help lower their costs. Fuck off. The cost of theft dwarfs the taxes. You're benefitting from your choice against the violation of others. You choose your benefit even off slavery. Off china's market manipulations. Your benefit, and chinas, over others. That's not libertarian in any aspect.
Do you think you have a freedom to buy your neighbors TV from the thief who stole it?
This is such a facile argument.
Do you think you have a freedom to buy your neighbors TV from the thief who stole it?
Straw man on line 12.
Lol. No it fucking isn't. It is the type of dismissal you use to justify your belief.
Right now the theft of IP and IRAD costs US producers over 200B a year. Security to try to limit theft costs US businesses over 150B a year.
If you were a producer you would know IP and IRAD costs get spread over costs of good sold. US producers produce less widgets in competition, increasing per widget cost.
China steals technology and doesn't even have a per widget cost for this. Their costs are cheaper due to theft.
This is all cost driven. You just want to ignore it. You're stating you deserve the cheap shit advantage even if it is at someone else's expense.
By the way, the estimated tariffs are around 60B a year. You have a choice not to pay those tariffs through a supplier shift. But you're discounting my choice to buy domestic by supporting china's actions in the market for your benefit.
It is literally the same thing.
Tariffs aren't going to suddenly stop them from spending on security to prevent IP theft, genius.
How many times have I posted the article from 2019 when China literally did that. It is amazing.
If you have to rely on ignoring reality for your argument i can't help convince you otherwise.
Even this year we've seen multiple countries change their behaviors due to the tariff threats. All fake news i guess.
one time too few.
How many times have I posted the article from 2019 when China literally did that. It is amazing.
How long did those benefits last? What were the costs of the tariffs? We came out behind.
You're really sounding more like a socialist every day. If you want to go full left economics, go full left, but drop the the-real-libertarian-position is government coerced wealth transfer narrative. This is 100% anti-libertarian even if it worked as you claim.
So, if China's costs go up, due to tariffs, they're going to steal less?
Or, are they going to steal more to keep their costs down, thereby necessitating more security?
As stated above. They already did a cracked down in 2019.
Are you guys simply ignoring reality?
Your argument is literally demanding we ignore costs pushed to others for your benefit.
You have a choice not to pay those tariffs through a supplier shift.
Fantasy land thinking.
Supply and Demand still exist. Have new factories been built to supply the change? Have new power plants been built to power those factories? Will the bureaucrats even allow them to be built? Will the ESG financiers fund one of these projects without adding to the cost with unionism, dei and all the rest?
I'm sorry you remain ignorant.
You know the reason why so many manufacturing jobs went off shore? It's not because of fucking theft. It's because of the rising minimum wage for low-skill, entry level jobs. It's because of the NIMBY backyard attitude that keeps people from building anything new. It's because of 80 years worth of increasing excessive regulations that make it prohibitively expensive to manufacture things in America. Because of all the years companies have to wrangle with the EPA and the climate change committees in local counties determining whether you're putting out too much carbon.
That's the reason why manufacturing is being off-shored to less developed countries, because it's hard to make a profit in America due to all the burdens required to produce things in America.
And there's only so much Trump can do about this even if he slashes the federal regulatory state, because so much of this happens on the state and local level. Abolishing the federal minimum wage accomplishes nearly nothing because most states have a higher minimum wage than the federal rate. It's not going to suddenly bring manufacturing jobs back, it's going to raise the cost of living in the US by raising costs on everything, which hurts the lower classes the most.
Tariffs are just a government imposition in the marketplace. It's perhaps a type of soft socialism. Just because you like Trump doesn't require you to defend them.
excessive regulations that make it prohibitively expensive
This creates a serious barrier to entry for new small businesses. If you can't afford compliance officers, liability attorneys, and expert tax accountants, you're taking your life in your hands starting a new business.
This is a simplified and wrong explanation as cost per unit is relativity similar for manufacturing costs. The offshoring was more regulatory than due to labor costs.
Why can't you admit the actual problem?
Do you still believe everything is made by hand?
This is the same exact argument as used by the left to justify open border labor instead of automation of farms lol.
This is a simplified and wrong explanation as cost per unit is relativity similar for manufacturing costs. The offshoring was more regulatory than due to labor costs.
Congrats, you read the first sentence of my comment where I mentioned labor costs and ignored the rest where I mentioned the regulatory burden that exists in the US. And how we're not going to catch up by just slapping tariffs on imports because, even if we slash it at the federal level, a lot of burdens do get imposed at the state and local level.
You have a point. We're required to have lane markings on the floor of our shop. We had an OSHA spot check and they got all bent out of shape because we used three inch wide tape to mark the lanes instead of two and a half inch wide tape. Had to pull them up and redo them and that's one of the minor things.
When you make that stuff more expensive, you're taking money out of my pocket that I can't spend on other things.
Not buying stuff doesn't take money out of your pocket. That's the equivalent of a housewife telling her husband, "I didn't spend a bunch of money on this, everything was on sale!" Yeah, but you didn't actually "save" the money, you have that many fewer dollars than you would have had if you didn't actually buy all that crap.
Such an upper class attitude, pretending every dollar spent is some kind of discretionary purchase. No, sometimes people need to buy cheap pens or cheap can openers or cheap imported produce from Mexico because it's all they can afford.
And not to rain on your parade, but the raw materials that go into cheap products come from the same places as the materials that go into high end products. We're not MINING in the US. Mining is apparently something that happens in poor countries. So the high quality merchandise gets more expensive too because the materials are getting more expensive due to the stupid trade war. EVERYTHING gets more expensive. The cheap shit becomes the high end shit because there's no profit margin in the higher quality products anymore.
It's becoming depressing the economic myopia that is happening in supposed libertarians.
Your non discretionary drivers to live are domestic, not foreign lol.
Such an upper class attitude, pretending every dollar spent is some kind of discretionary purchase.
Oh, so a lower class attitude is, "Don't worry about the cost, because personal financial responsibility is for suckers"?
Speaking as someone who did actually grow up in a working-class home that had to responsibly budget due to limited means, you're being hilariously performative with that take.
And not to rain on your parade, but the raw materials that go into cheap products come from the same places as the materials that go into high end products. We're not MINING in the US. Mining is apparently something that happens in poor countries.
LOL, we're mining plenty. There's a giant-ass copper mine right outside Silver City, New Mexico. There's a marble quarry outside Marble, Colorado. There's oil and gas rigs all over the fucking place. Just because we've outsourced most of the polluting to overseas operations doesn't mean we aren't heavily into resource extraction.
The cheap shit becomes the high end shit because there's no profit margin in the higher quality products anymore.
LOL, stop. No one is ever going to consider what goes through Wal-Mart or Temu "high-end shit" regardless of the cost. In fact, one of the hallmarks of this cheap shit phenomenon is that people end up spending about what they would on the good stuff anyway because the cheap shit is so disposable.
My wife's sisters family makes similar arguments. They eat put almost exclusively. Probably a bigger cost than even their mortgage.
Some people can't figure it out.
“Anyone who argues otherwise is practically spouting communist propaganda.”
Please explain.
"You don't need all that cheap shit," sounds suspiciously close to "Nobody needs 23 different brands of deodorant."
Did that seem like a convincing argument in your head?
My argument is you need to understand there are costs with your position and you shouldn't blindly deny them to make your position work.
This keeps going over your head though.
Your position leads to remaining with the status quo.
^+1. What I 'need' is my business.
It’s the ability to own a house,
Yeah, greedy, selfish Big Construction doesn't want to pay tariffs because they want to pay less for lumber and steel and make obscene profits. Housing is a Human Right! Nationalize Housing, its too important to leave to the greedy capitalist.
For those who don’t think we need to eliminate regulations and government overreach, check out all the required signs my neighborhood ARCO needed to post to build a new convenience shop addition. It’s been a construction site there for OVER 2 YEARS!
https://x.com/AlanWolan/status/1898052016364032081
I agree, I've had to spend my fair shair on those bullshit regulations. It's kinda of why I've gotten to the point that I don't want to hear that the solution to our nations problems is for me to pay more in taxes.
Heres a good one, a number of years ago one of my GCs jobsite trailer had a railing up the steps that were all of about 3-4 feet off the ground, had a guard rail that was 4 inches to short. We were cited by OSHA (tech MOSHA) because our employees were in grave danger and the jobsite was shutdown for a few days. But hey whats time and money when someone's life was on the line and we so blatantly disregarded such a major safety violation?
Yeah, greedy, selfish Big Construction doesn't want to pay tariffs because they want to pay less for lumber and steel and make obscene profits. Housing is a Human Right! Nationalize Housing, its too important to leave to the greedy capitalist.
That's possibly more retarded than a sarcjeff strawman. Good job.
I was just agreeing with JessieAZ who called me selfish yesterday for not wanting to paying more taxes. After reflection, I've finally won victory over myself and have refuted my selfish ways. We in the housing industry have for too long made obscene profits and should be ashamed of ourselves for building homes for profit. I've renounce my bourgeoisie blue collared work ethic and my belief that to every man, to each their own.
With all that straw, sarcjeff might be impressed.
No straw, like I said I'm selfish for not wanting to pay more taxes. I'm agreeing with JessieAZ and you evidently.
You didn't agree with me. You defended theft.
The Air Force briefly removed new recruit training courses that included videos of the Tuskegee Airmen soon after Trump's [diversity, equity, and inclusion] order...
Making our airmen less well trained for today's threats, I guess.
To be fair, the stories of the Tuskegee Airmen have very little to do with actual readiness as far as putting ordnance on target or running missile warning satellites. However, they still provide a heritage function that's important to promoting esprit de corps and institutional identity, which is cultural in nature and a critical aspect of keeping morale in a good state.
That was absolutely malicious compliance, and I'm curious to see who actually gave the order, or at least the decision, to take those out. It sounds like it was some activist type at 737th Training Group, which oversees the basic training program.
It's akin to Obama ordering the active closing off of the national monuments during the government shutdown. It had nothing to do with a lack of funds and everything to do with making sure it was a painful to the plebs as possible.
Someone needs to coin a cutesy term for this kind of performative government retribution.
FECES? (Forced-Extreme Cause-Effect Scamming)
It's not 'malicious compliance'. It's compliance to a malicious order given by scumbags and supported politically by bigoted assholes like the commentariat (and authors) here.
Apparently, no offensive cyber operations directed at Russia have been halted, and no such order was given.
Trump can't even be a sycophant right.
And JD Vance is wrong about that.
I do think there's plenty of wasteful spending in the federal government, and one of the upsides of DOGE is clearly the potential of creating a federal culture that is more aware of how it spends taxpayer dollars (more on this shortly).
Get a load of the fascist over here.
This may surprise some people who think that Trump is super callous, but these guys are really disturbed by seeing bodies in the streets...
Someone doesn't understand that words are equally as violent as war.
Silence is also violence.
Tough times ahead for Jeff and Tony:
The NYT reports that ActBlue is in “turmoil.”
Mysteriously, seven top executives have all left in the past three weeks, several of whom had all been there more than a decade. None of them will explain on the record why they left.
The last remaining lawyer at ActBlue’s general counsel’s office has been locked out of his email and put on leave after sending internal messages that “we have Whistleblower Policies for a reason.”
Two unions representing ActBlue employees are openly questioning the group’s stability and call the situation “alarming.” They’re demanding the hiring of an independent investigator.
More than $16 billion has passed through ActBlue in the past 20 years. What could they possibly be hiding?
Done some reporting on ActBlue and here’s almost no doubt in my mind they’ve been willfully enabling illegal donations for almost their entire existence and have gotten away with it.
Are there any Democrat organizations that are NOT some version of Hunter selling art?
But, according to Sarcasmic, only Republicans donated to ActBlue.
That's right. They really said that when the Trump Shooter turned out to be an ActBlue donor. I forgot that particular piece of stupidity.
Wait, what?! That’s retarded even by sarc standards.
It wasn't sarc. It was Nelson.
Thanks. I’ll have to remember that going forward.
I try to keep my trolls straight to not give them ammo.
That explains it. That guy is actually more retarded than sarc, which is amazing.
USAID: Grant Laundering
ActBlue: Donation Laundering
Popup NGOs: Federal Program Laundering
Also, this needs to be emphasized again: "More than $16 billion has passed through ActBlue in the past 20 years."
$16 billion? That's almost nothing. Better just ignore it.
By the way, if you want to look up who has been supposedly sending money to ActBlue (and WinRed for that matter), Data Republican has a search engine for that: https://datarepublican.com/
Popup NGOs: Federal Program Laundering
"Washington D.C.'s hottest new NGO is 'They/Them.' This NGO has everything--purple-haired harpies, genderqueer pee ooh sees, Dan Cortese....'"
Stefon: If SNL wasn't a Leftist echo chamber. Nice.
Weekend Update has always been one of my favorite SNL segments. Also, Bill Hader is great.
16 billion over 20 years is just the bar tab.
Every time I think I've seen the dumbest Buttplug argument ever, he turns around and surprises me.
Bidens: money laundering
"I'm not sure what Bessent thinks upward mobility means if not being able to more easily afford things that make people's lives better"
Let's plot a graph of amount of jobs off shorted VS rates of depression.
People need meaningful work, saying were going to put you on welfare (theft from the middle class) so company x can use slaves in China to make a knock off of what you use to produce, but good news you can buy it off Ali baba for a fraction of what it cost! Sure it will break after 1 use, but don't you feel better?
Point:
It's easy to decry "cheap goods" and conjure up images of random stupid crap purchased on Amazon—a materialism that seems hollow and unnecessary. But "cheap goods" means washing machines and dishwashers that free us from the drudgery of household chores; it means "the infinite supply of everyday items," all the toothbrushes and nail clippers and pens and tennis balls and coffee mugs that keep our households running;
Counterpoint:
https://www.thefp.com/p/an-elegy-to-all-my-crap
We're not making things better, more efficiently... we're having things made as cheaply as possible, by people whose misery we get to be shielded from, 'cause we're so dang rich and well-off and stuff.
We never ended slavery; we just off-shored it.
Well, we did for a while. And then we restarted it, offshore.
Hrm, OK, given the history of United Fruit and the like, maybe we actually never did.
We live in an era of too much
Keep swinging that hammer and sickle, Comrade Wolfe, the revolution is right around the corner.
The people in the comments who are crapping on "consumerism," sound so much more communist than the writer of this article.
Again: please explain.
The people in the comments who are crapping on "consumerism," sound so much more communist than the writer of this article.
Narrator: Not a single thought was thunk.
You can see the power of narratives and easily found beliefs with this condtant declaration, from now Liz, contending cheap goods can only be formed in foreign nations. This is flatly untrue. It is a claim often used to buttress or ignore the regulatory penalties that have been placed on American business. It also ignores the fact that other countries use tariffs and caps to limit American goods. As any economist knows, irad costs get distributed over number of goods sold.
Instead of looking at the actual causes of cost differentials between countries, they just flatly assume it is because of other countries.
The regulatory delta, for example China allowing slave labor, is a subset of these costs. But more so it is on OSHA, energy regulations, EPA, etc that add the cost differential. Again. 5T was added in these costs under Biden.
Stop blindly accepting narratives and spend some time looking into your assumptions.
Meanwhile we can’t even buy the 16 grand Toyota truck.
To be fair, we haven't been able to do that for what, 25 years now?
Yep. And such regulations hurt not just Toyota but also our domestic manufacturers as well. It means neither Ford nor GM can offer such a truck here either.
What some here don’t want to understand is that there are several issues at play: unilateral free trade, a heavy regulatory environment, active disinvestment by Wall Street, sycophantic politicians, greedy unions both public and private, and a far left that seems to want to erode our culture to nothing. There is no one solution for this. There is no one thing we can do to make it better. There are several things we can do, but all of them involve trade-offs.
One solutuon
Kill all Marxists and Marxists off shoots
Oh, so you want Communism then.
Apparently a few commenters here (ATM, SGN) think so.
"" ignore the regulatory penalties that have been placed on American business.""
Domestic regulatory penalties hamper the ability to make cheap goods in the US. No?
Yes. But why claim only foreign countries can ever operate in a low regulatory environment?
How about fix the actual issues at the base of your argument instead if demanding we just accept it?
Right now my cost of labor is roughly 50-60% caused by regulations and taxes. Large percentages of cost of energy, production, and materials as well.
The argument is not oh well, just bow down to China lol.
""How about fix the actual issues at the base of your argument instead if demanding we just accept it?"'
1. What argument is that? That domestic regulations raise our costs of making goods? That's what my question was inferring to. Isn't that something you agree with? Would love to see that fixed
2. I have made no demands for anyone to accept anything.
""Right now my cost of labor is roughly 50-60% caused by regulations and taxes.""
Yeah, I bet. I would love to see those costs decrease.
""The argument is not oh well, just bow down to China lol.""
Agreed. I'm not make that argument.
But regarding the tariffs, I'm not sure how making you pay more for energy, production, and materials due to tariffs helps your business, or you, or your customers. Now if your business is shielded from these increases then a big congrats to you because I don't think that's easy to do.
You just restated my question as impossible lol.
Keep fighting for the status quo.
Fuck off, commie.
Still waiting for that "Sometimes" in your name to be proven true.
Weird seeing the side demanding we support China call others commies.
I’m starting to suspect they don’t know what communism means.
They spend so much time redefining words, that they no longer know what any of them mean.
Jessie is the one who said I'm selfish for not wanting to pay more taxes. I've only heard that argument from the Sander/Warren camp who are communist.
While I agree that my thinking maybe a tad reductive, I'll still call him a communist for mouthing communist sentiments at me for me only wanting the federal government to take money from me.
Do you think that a person who only wants the federal government to leave them alone is selfish? Because that is all I want from my government, to be left alone to do legal business as I see fit without government interference?
*Not take
I said you were selfish for wanting to benefit from known and accepted theft.
Your reading comprehension is sub standard.
It is very obvious in these threads who produced something and who doesn't. Your the latter.
Fuck off slaver
Lol.
Fuck off, commie.
It's like Misek posting "Fuck off, Nazi". Just doesn't have the same kick to it.
Forget MAGA, Investors Want MEGA: Make Europe Great Again
...
What is special about this European rally, however, is that it doesn’t just appear to reflect a bounce from the bottom, but a more durable transformation. This is what Mizuho strategist Jordan Rochester has dubbed the MEGA, or “Make Europe Great Again,” trade.
https://www.wsj.com/finance/stocks/europe-investors-potential-reform-outlook-b9a67c47
Investors and Pluggo like fascism, film at 11!
Oh boy, another EU technocrat Big Idea that's as lame and derivative as it sounds.
Pluggo is happy because they are actively loosening their laws of kiddie porn and child rape.
turd, the TDS-addled ass-wipe of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
"Another one bites the dust
Another one bites the dust
And another one gone, and another one gone
Another one bites the dust"
To quote the great philosopher Kris Kristofferson; "It sure was love while it lasted".
Trump could, might, maybe. Not facts but opinions based on assumptions by whoever.
Liz is clearly getting more and more worn down by her relentless asshole co-workers with each day that goes by.
It wouldn't surprise me one iota if Mingo-Mango-Mongo threatened to fire her if she didn't join the crew and adopt a more strident anti-Trump posture.
the WaPo editor job is still open faik
Mark Judge is lobbying for the job. I think he should hire Megan McArdle, but I don't think she would want the job.
all in an effort to weed out poorer and more desperate people from coming and overstaying their visas.
Cite? Or are you psychic, Liz?
So Trump identified a cheap and non-disruptive method to enforce immigration law and we're suppose to be unhappy about it? Sometimes I think her priorities are off.
My lower Manhattan parish was absolutely packed for the 6:30 p.m. service
People are rushing to get their last sacraments in, knowing that the next Pope will probably be a Muslim.
And trans.
can they be both?
Lots of MtoF trannies in Iran, so apparently so.
Would he/she be the Mome rather than the Pope?
*snerk!*
>>Bessent is confused:
no ... no he is not.
>>malicious compliance
can we call them fucking retards again yet?
You stopped?
online.
but these guys are really disturbed by seeing bodies in the streets
For leftists, bodies in the street are a feature, not a bug. "By any means necessary", they say, without ever seeming to imagine BEING one of the bodies.
it's like nobody's ever heard of a mountain of skulls
Make America Genghis Again.
For leftists, bodies in the street are a feature
Does it count if all those "bodies" are in refrigeration trucks on the streets?
Only if the trucks are going to the SoyLent factory.
I have a gaming friend with a t-shirt reading "I'll tell you what's wrong with society today, nobody drinks from the skull of their enemy anymore".
>>This may surprise some people who think that Trump is super callous
James Pogue, reporting from 2017
Damn, now I'm reminded of the joke about a witch with bad breath. I don't remember the whole joke, but the punch line: A super callous fragile mystic hexed by halitosis.
kicks are for Trids, silly rabbi.
Damn, we're old!
Hey, I don't know about you, but I'm only nearly old.
I think genX means I'm perpetually 15 or something.
Just mentally. And I usually place my sense of humor closer to "12" than "15"...
I remember a similar one when I was a kid:
"Silly faggot, dicks are for chicks."
It was a different time.
>>writes Statecraft's Santi Ruiz (who also happens to be one of my good friends) ... "I do think there's plenty of wasteful spending in the federal government ..."
I'm glad he's your pal and all but meh leading with professorial equivocations about common knowledge wasteful spending
>>My lower Manhattan parish was absolutely packed for the 6:30 p.m. service.
the psychopaths got beat back and people remember their souls again.
will there be a eulogy here for 538?
I think Jessica Tarlov authoritatively cited 538 on The Five the other day and Dana Perino responded, "the 538 that just got shuttered?"
I'd get it if he was cuter.
She is such a dumb bitch. I remember back when Kennedy still had her show shortly after the war started, right after The Ghost of Kiev episode, and she sat there with a straight face and said there was no pro-Ukraine propaganda.
Wasn't Ghost of Kiev a 4chan prank?
Is that how it started? Didn’t know that but that makes it funnier.
Bessent is confused: "Access to cheap goods is not the essence of the American dream," Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent said yesterday during a speech to the Economic Club of New York. "The American Dream is rooted in the concept that any citizen can achieve prosperity, upward mobility, and economic security. For too long, the designers of multilateral trade deals have lost sight of this."
Bessent is NOT confused. The method of achieving this version of the American dream: Tariffs, trade restrictions might (probably?) not be the way to maintain it, but the American Dream is NOT predicated on cheap goods. Cheap goods were the RESULT of a system where "any citizen can achieve prosperity, upward mobility, and economic security."
I don't really know why late-stage libertarianism-adapted-for-modern-audiences believes that Cheap Goods are the end-all-and-be-all of the Human experience, even if that comes at a cost of high tax rates, crushing regulations, foreign interference via subsidized goods that devastate local industries, joblessness, miles of tent encampments with zombified fentanyl and meth addicts, free healthcare, rental assistance, food stamps and EBT cards even when you've contributed literally nothing into the system because you're 'undocumented'...
Shorter me: Unemployed homeless zombies able to buy a flat-screen tv for 25% less is not MY idea of the American Dream.
Well, sorry to tell you this but…you’re a communist now.
But it is the Soros/DNC vision of the American Dream so Reason is here to parrot it whatever the actual means.
I said something similar above and got branded as a commie by a few commenters. Apparently if you dare to suggest that cheap shit isn’t the end-all, be-all to the American Dream, you’re communist.
"Don't ask questions. Just consume product. Then get excited for next products."
I went through 4 can openers, all 'nice' and 'ergonomic' and none of them could open a can after a month. Then I went back and bought the old-style. Its uncomfortable to use but it opens cans every time.
https://as2.ftcdn.net/v2/jpg/00/49/99/81/1000_F_49998152_gEj2l9VJL3jHorsXjcZ7jiG9yfpdH1Ao.jpg
I had a nice french door refrigerator I bought for $1500 which failed in 5 years and it was going to cost 1k to replace the chip board. I've got two refrigerators in the garage - one is, I believe from the late '80's to early 90's.
'Cheap' isn't cheap and its actually making your life worse and *harder* to achieve the American Dream.
I've got two refrigerators in the garage - one is, I believe from the late '80's to early 90's.
Get a load of Carbon Bigfoot over here! Won't someone please think of the environment?!
like the internets, Maytag is forever.
I went through 4 can openers, all 'nice' and 'ergonomic' and none of them could open a can after a month. Then I went back and bought the old-style. Its uncomfortable to use but it opens cans every time.
Mrs. Casual got pissed that we kept mashing them. She bought a new one and forbade all the older males in the house from using it. After about a month of her using it, it started misaligning and stripping itself, the can, or both. We, the boys, banned from using it, had switched to a "paratrooper style" opener like you would find on a Swiss Army Knife. Dad had a bunch of them, apparently Grandpa kept several in each of his tackle boxes. It's gotta be close to 100 yrs. old at this point, but we are now faster at using the paratrooper-style opener than she is at the "sit and spin" flange-wheel-style opener.
The draft recommendation also lists an "orange" group of countries, where visa access may be restricted,
I see what they did there. Hilarious
LOL-
Trump/DOGE: Army Recruiting is down? Let us fix that for you.
The difference is amazing.
If you told me they dubbed the woman's voice with a younger girl's voice in the first one I wouldn't doubt you for a second. I would be utterly repulsed at the multi-dimensional grotesqueness of such an act, but I wouldn't be surprised.
Wow, a lot more production went into that first one. The second just seems like some dudes tik-tok account.
I remember an ad for one of the branches of military that involved a guy climbing a mountain and then fighting a dragon with a sword. That's the good shit right there.
Yeah, that's the Marine commercial from the early 90s, if I remember correctly.
Even back then, the USMC had the best recruitment ads.
and if you took a poll of 100 young dudes of fighting age, every one of them would go "fuck ya, jacked army guy" over "diversity puke cartoon". Not even a question.
Not even a question.
Sorry, but the question is important. Who would you rather be and who would you rather bang gets very different responses.
Edit: I'd rather bang Emma, but if I had to be in a relationship with one of them... it's a little tougher call (not sure I want to hear that two-mom, girl-bossery every day).
who do you want to be today?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDCOOReXXOE
What part of ROI do you not understand? They're righting the ship here. If you need a cartoon of a guy climbing a mountain to fight a dragon, go play Dungeons and Dragons with NASA.
Those are brute metrics that are quite vulnerable to Goodhart's law: 'When a measure becomes a target, it ceases to be a good measure.'
I think my favorite part of this quote is that I've never heard it before and have no idea who Goodhart is. Good job objectively ensuring your measurements and targets never converge or overlap Goodhart, whomever you are. I can only presume your other endeavors were similarly successful, whatever it is that you do. You can rest easy knowing that no one who heeds your advice will ever allow their measures or metrics to become targets.
I've heard "you get more of what you measure" as a warning about your metric choices and this seems like an addendum from there if you do a shit job of choosing metrics. If cut jobs and spending are the ONLY metrics then this could apply but with rational operational targets in tension they're not a bad starting place when your organization is as bloated and dysfunctional as the US Government.
I understand it's speaking to gaming a/the system but, yeah, that's a highly contextual and nuanced thing. Hardly a law and Liz, extracting the "Law" from its context, has arguably even inverted its meaning or the intent. Yeah, if you stop to measure every inch of progress on your trip to The Moon and make measuring your progress the goal you'll never get there, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't measure your distance to The Moon or aim to make it the full half-million or whatever miles it takes to get there and back.
when one of Liz' friends becomes a target, he ceases to be a good quote.
The quote basically is the statistical equivalent of "The Observer Effect". It's a common-ish concept among manufacturing management (in my experience).
Right, but again, it's an argument against too many metrics, not against having one or two metrics.
And in the context of someone who, earlier this week, if not yesterday, had a toe in waters complaining about the "bull in the China shop" is pretty disingenuous.
It's not an argument. And it's not about having metrics. It's about what you do with those metrics.
If you decide to measure A, and find that it is X, you don't go around telling your employees that your new goal for A is now X+10. Then the metric is no longer an observation, it's a target. Everything is measured. Not everything is a metric, and definitely not a target.
What bullshit are you on about "bull in a China shop"? That expression sucks, because it's patently false. Bull's are apparently surprisingly aware of their bodies and their surroundings.
Trump's latest uber-fascist move:
Trump puts new limits on Elon Musk
How dare Trump actually listen to member's of Congress complaints?! Obviously the most fascist fascist to ever fascist.
Daily Fail said he was getting pushback from his Cabinet because they don't like Elon presuming their oversight. Which makes sense, because OPM is just the fed's HR department.
It's notable that Kash, Hegseth, and Mama Tulsi were the ones to issue the stop order and re-align the WARs through them. These are hard-assed officials that want to establish that they're running their departments.
"That red list will most resemble the first-term travel ban list, possibly including Afghanistan, Cuba, Iran, Libya, North Korea, Somalia, Sudan, Syria, Venezuela, and Yemen."
Damn!
..and I was so looking forward to be kidnapped, beaten, tortured and killed in one of the exotic paradises.
Oh, well.
Maybe the democrats will take the places off the travel ban list when they're elected.
Huh.
So, yes, America's esteemed and taxpayer-funded scientists were indeed playing with what, for lack of a better term, can be called tranny mice.
We live in the stupidest of worlds
https://x.com/AlexBerenson/status/1898134893043105838
Nobody talks about Trump 1.1
But Tulsi is a Putin puppet!
As predictable as this is, it’s still infuriating to see it. For decades, Bashar al-Assad protected minority religious communities in Syria, including the country’s large Christian population. No one in the United States was allowed to notice this, and anyone who did was immediately denounced by neocons as a dangerous extremist. Bari Weiss declared Tulsi Gabbard “monstrous” and an “Assad toady” for noticing. But it was true. Assad protected the Christians. The weaker Assad was, the more Christians died. During the years that neocons in the west backed the war against Assad, the percentage of Christians in Syria went from ten percent to two percent. Now that Assad has been driven from power, many of the remaining Syrian Christians are being slaughtered and their holy places desecrated. Bari Weiss and John Bolton haven’t said a word about it. But no one who’s paying attention can be surprised it’s happening. Neocon projects in the Middle East invariably destroy ancient Christian communities, from Iraq to Gaza and in many places in between. Can this be an accident? You wonder.
https://x.com/TuckerCarlson/status/1898135864523252219