Rand Paul Wants DOGE To Build a $500 Billion Rescission Package for Congress To Approve
"The only way you get less waste is to give them less money to spend," says the libertarian-adjacent senator from Kentucky.

Sen. Rand Paul (R–Ky.) is no newcomer to pointing out silly ways that the federal government wastes taxpayer dollars—like the time the National Institutes of Health spent over $300,000 to study whether quails got more frisky after being fed cocaine, which has been a staple of his speeches for years.
So he's pretty thrilled to see the executive branch focused on cutting wasteful spending.
"We've been pointing this out for a decade, but now we finally have an administration that's interested in it—they are canceling contracts, locking doors, firing people. There really is this disrupting force, and that's good," Paul told Reason in an interview on Wednesday.
Nearly a month after President Donald Trump returned to office and unleashed Elon Musk's Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) on the administrative state, Paul says DOGE is "doing a great job," and he's looking forward to making some of those changes permanent.
Doing that will require a few additional steps.
"If we want to have real savings, they're going to have to send this back to Congress, and Congress is going to have to approve of spending less money," Paul said.
During a weekly meeting of Republican senators earlier on Wednesday, Paul encouraged Vice President J.D. Vance to have the Trump administration draw up a rescission package: a special type of bill that formally withdraws spending Congress had previously authorized. That would allow Congress to make the DOGE spending cuts stick. Even better, a rescission bill can pass the Senate with a simple majority, and Paul believes there would be enough support (even though a similar maneuver failed during the first Trump administration).
"I'd love to see a $500 billion rescission package," Paul said. "The Republicans right now in the Senate are actually agitating to increase spending. I'd much rather be voting on a bill to reduce spending than increase spending."
A vote on a rescission bill would solve some of the legal and procedural questions about DOGE's spending cuts. Under the terms of the Congressional Budget Control and Impoundment Act of 1974, which undergirds the entire modern federal budgetary process, presidents are not allowed to simply refuse to spend money that Congress has appropriated.
Russ Vought, the White House's budget director, believes that law is unconstitutional and is seeking to challenge the limits it places on presidential control over spending. That potentially messy fight could be avoided if Congress gives its approval to rescind the spending DOGE wants to cut.
Meanwhile, Paul shrugged off another criticism of DOGE's efforts so far: that trimming a few billion from the federal budget is insignificant in the face of a nearly $7 trillion federal budget.
"Why would we still not start with the most egregious stuff and get rid of it?" said Paul. "Ultimately, how do you get to better spending? You get better people in government, or you give them less money. I don't think we can really expect to get better people, less bureaucrats in government….The only way you get less waste is to give them less money to spend."
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"The only way you get less waste is to give them less money to spend," says the libertarian-adjacent senator from Kentucky.
"C'mon, Rand, the Deep State isn't just a mere talisman!" says the DNC-adjacent libertarian magazine.
Yeah. At this point I'm beginning to question whether I actually know Eva Braun was a Nazi or if she might've just been reluctantly and strategically Nazi-adjacent.
I’m going to borrow that one.
I'ma steal it!
"The only way you get less waste is to give them less money to spend," says the libertarian-adjacent SOON TO BE SENIOR senator from Kentucky."
Keep the pressure up. DOGE and Co. Can't allow Congress to backslide.
36 trillion debt, 123% debt to GDP. This must be reversed and should be beaten into the heads of all Congressc and the public.
Sarc sez the entire federal payroll is less than $25 million.
And then blamed his mistake on Google.
Wow! Did he really? Where did he say that, I have to make a link.
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I read long ago that some federal bureaucracy spent $1 trillion to distribute $200 billion of welfare.
Know how much a trillion is? It's a million millions. Know how much the entire federal payroll is? A trillion? Nope. A billion? Nope. Hundred million? Nope. Fifty million? Nope. Twenty five million? Nope. It's even less than that, and that was before Elon and his wrecking crew came to town. You seem like a fairly rational person who understands math (which puts you two steps above most of the commentariat). Apply rational thinking and math to your claim. Does it seem reasonable?
$25 million divided by 3,000,000 employees is <$10/year/employee. Seems legit.
The work illegal immigrants won't do.
Just watched a "The Hill" vid where it was revealed the head of DEI at NPR was getting ~$400K/year.
Even at an "off by a factor of a thousand" error, it would only be $10k per year.
Math really isn't his strong suit, is it?
Then again, what is?
Maybe he means the per-hour payroll is under $25 million?
Sadly, no.
My goodness that's that most beautiful thing is ever seen... how will he ever top this?
This part was exquisitely Sarcasmic:
"you seem like a fairly rational person who understands math (which puts you two steps above most of the commentariat)"
He actually sets himself as a mathematician, while inferring that the rest of us don't understand math. He then presents us with a calculation so error-riddled, that not even the dumbest middle schooler would screw up so badly.
True art.
And he responded to being corrected by insulting SGT.
This is why I post $8 after his posts.
Remember, sarc is an alcoholic, wife beater who had CPS take his kid away. A poster child for his precious DNC. Best to ignore him.
Do you believe that his ex and kid are real? I don’t. I think his ‘ex’ is come chick he liked who barely knew him and rejected his advances, and ended up dating a cop instead. He now has drunken delusions that her kid with the cop is somehow his.
I know someone that is almost this delusional that is a severe alcoholic. And Sarc is worse.
You dipshit sockos need to get a fucking life/something better to do. That Jeffsarc guy is getting a lot of free rent on shit property
Stop sockpuppeting, Sarckles.
Not Sarkles....just tired of you dumbfuck sockos shitting up every thread whining about jeffsarc
I concur
As there are at least 3 million federal employees, that works out to roughly $8 per month average salary. Not counting the cost of their benefits.
Yep. Sounds like something Sarc would say.
I farted once on the set of Blue Lagoon
You need to comment more often.
"If we want to have real savings, they're going to have to send this back to Congress, and Congress is going to have to approve of spending less money," Paul said.
That is only going to come close to seeing the light of day if they 1] absolutely have to and 2] can disclaim any responsibility for it
I wouldn't be too pessimistic, it wasn't too long ago that Congress forced Obama of all people into the 4% sequestration deal. Now that Trump has staked his administration on cuts, we might be able get that back and some.
Tea Party 2, the pajama jam!
can disclaim any responsibility for it
Cue ImYourHuckleberry.gif posting from/on X.
Aw you guys give me hope!
If Rand is "libertarian-adjacent", what does that make the Reasonistas here (minus Stossel, Good Liz, and occasionally Robby when not Boaf Sidezing or Credibly Accusing)
Beltway libertarian, aka democrats (not even adjacent)
I think it's high time we all stipulate to a definition for "libertarian-adjacent". If a libertarian moves in next door do I qualify? Would this libertarian have to be a card carrying Libertarian? What if he's a racist Ron Paul libertarian? Am I also racist adjacent? This was so much easier when the criteria was limited to Mexicans, weed and butt sex. Now we have to worry about Villareal and congestion tolls and TARIFFS!!!!!!!!!
Robby's been pretty decent lately.
"says the libertarian-adjacent senator from Kentucky."
If Rand is libertarian-adjacent, what does that make Boehm?
If Rand is libertarian-adjacent, what does that make Boehm?
Boehm, ENB, Britschgi... all various directions/genders of taint-adjacent.
If libertarianism were a church with holy symbols akin to crucifixes, most of the areas on staff would be repelled in a manner similar to vampires.
A utilitarian technocrat?
I've certainly have never read anything from him that espouses liberty.
Does Rand even want to be libertarian-adjacent?
From convention reports, I understand they may be combatively argumentative, likely unvaccinated, and have questionable hygiene. Would you want to be adjacent to that?
Indeed, this is doubleplus stupid. Rand is the most overtly libertarian person to achieve high office in modern American history. Anybody trying to label him less-than is questionable. But ERIC doing it? Get the fuck out of here.
Poor Boehm. Just can't give up on orange man bad to critize government lurce.
Paul has a better understanding than some of Reason's writers.
You got to start cutting *somewhere*. If you stand around waiting for the perfect moment to move you'll never get anywhere.
TARIFFS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wrong thread?
TRUMP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I reset the JSR counter back to 0 after he had a passable article earlier.
Boehm lit the JFree signal with an article about Rand Paul.
“even though a similar maneuver failed during the first Trump administration).”
That’s impossible. It is known that Trump did nothing but work tirelessly to increase government spending.
Wait, why would Congress need to pass a rescission plan? Can't Trump just do whatever he wants with respect to spending? At least that's what I've been told.
No you haven't. You've been told that Trump can hire, fire, cancel contracts, investigate whoever he wants, and do some discretionary spending. But, you've never been told that Trump just do whatever he wants with respect to spending.
This is why everyone calls you Lying Jeffy.
The fuck you have.
Trump don't take no shine to no "Rescission Package", 'cause He hears that a Rescission to His Package could dang well interfere with His Monkeyshines with Spermy Daniels! "Keep that Rescission to My Package AWAY from Me and My Package!", He bellows!
The people criticizing Reason writers are tiresome. Do we or do not want to decrease the Federal workforce? If so, how is it done? My son was let go by the IRS today. That’s fine, he was one of the 87,000 new people, he was working on data and AI. Let’s get a Libertarian figuring out of the best ways to do a massive downsizing of government.
I think an across the board cut would allow agrencies to determine what cuts are most useful. And I’m pro 25%.
Put the bottle back in the cabinet.
If so, how is it done?
Nobody cares anymore, Erin. That's the thing. It's the Gordian Knot all over again. We can spend an eternity trying to untangle it, constantly frustrated in our efforts to do so, oxcart frozen in place while we do - or we can just cut right through the damned thing and get that oxcart moving again.
Time to move the oxcart. I'm sorry about your son. He'll figure it out, and probably be better for it. Life's little surprises often build character as we overcome adversity.
Or, at least, that's what we used to teach Americans.
"I'm sorry about your son."
Probably the first to be canned since 2015; perhaps he'll learn that a real boss, delivering real value to the owners, requires the employee to deliver real value to the boss!
There really is this disrupting force, and that's good," Paul told Reason in an interview on Wednesday.
I like this line. It's a nice reminder that disruption has its merits. No, not when it's wild and unfocused and just disrupting for the sake of disrupting (see: BLM) - but when it's clearly targeted and carefully utilized, and contained to that which needs disrupting, then something productive usually results.
I hate to be so cliche, but "you can't make an omelet without breaking a few eggs." Pretending like eggs are these perfectly useful things that are beneficial when their status quo is preserved is stupid. Breaking them - disrupting their status quo - is, in fact, the ONLY way to get any real utility out of them. Hence the adage.
Change does not come easy - nor should it necessarily do so. Detoxing an addict, that's real disruptive. But the end result is greater for it. Cleaning house on a bloated and corrupt government that is wasteful beyond what we could have ever imagined? Same thing.
I like the way Rand put it, because so many people are clutching their pearls at how "disruptive" this all is. Acknowledging that, and recognizing it as not just a necessary, but a good thing - that's an important thing for people to understand.
Oh look, Biden sent 2 billion dollars to election denier Tank Abrams.
https://nypost.com/2025/02/19/us-news/zeldin-epa-discovers-2-billion-biden-admin-stashed-away-for-stacey-abrams-linked-climate-group/
This is not getting worse for Trump, and the Ds are not preparing for a soft landing. Maher gets it, some others do, but the swamp critters are going to tear their fingernails off clinging to what we will no longer allow.
Robbie, over on "The Hill", has the NPR DEI director raking in ~$400k/year promoting "Meditation Mondays" and the twit counterpoint *DEFENDING* that.
NPR gave the scumbag a new title, but kept her at the salary until a news outfit busted them; she and her 'vice director' are now looking for employment.
So brainwashed National Socialist Republican Party girl-bulliers are libertarian-adjacent? Was this Stormy Liz or Altar Girl's idea?
Nobody can be as party confused as you; you must be just trolling.
Democrats champion Socialism and everyone knows it.
What actually exists.
https://www.dsausa.org/
"Under the terms of the Congressional Budget Control and Impoundment Act of 1974, which undergirds the entire modern federal budgetary process, presidents are not allowed to simply refuse to spend money that Congress has appropriated."
Yeah, well Congress manages to routinely ignore the budgetary process undergirded by the Act (commonly known as "regular order"). Only four times in the last 50 years since passage of the the Act has Congress passed a budget by regular order, the last was in 1996 for FY1997.
Laws don't mean shit to Congress when it comes to spending tax payer money - whatever buys the most votes in the next election is, effectively, "the law."
If Boehm would like to compare his libertarian bonafides with the "libertarian-adjacent" Rand Paul I'd like to see it.
""The only way you get less waste is to give them less money to spend," says the libertarian-adjacent senator from Kentucky."
A better idea is to eliminate about 50 - 75% of the federal government since it has proven it can't handle money any more than a drunken sailor on leave.
Oh, wait.
The democrats and republicans would never go for such a commonsense idea like that.
What was I thinking?
The irony here is that government spending is the mother's milk of politics. Now that the Rs are in power, it's their turn to swill at the government trough. All this talk of spending cuts is liable to cost the party millions. It will be interesting to see just how cooperative Congress decides to be.
This is the way to do it. Congress has the correct authority. Trying to be effective with executive action only is not the way the government is supposed to work and the actions will get tied up in court.
Republicans don’t want any cuts to impact their own districts. That might get exposed and they might lose their jobs. It’s just not possible to make substantial cuts that never impact their own districts. You have to lie or evade to maintain support for cuts. Congress critters should be effective at that, they just have to belly up and take the risk.