J.D. Vance Brings the Culture War to Europe: 'There Is a New Sheriff in Town'
The Munich Security Conference was supposed to be a foreign policy forum. Instead, the vice president lectured Europeans about democracy.

The Munich Security Conference in Germany this weekend was supposed to host the opening salvo of the Trump administration's peace initiative for Ukraine. But Vice President J.D. Vance dedicated only a few words of his Munich speech on Friday to the war there: "The Trump administration is very concerned with European security and believes that we can come to a reasonable settlement between Russia and Ukraine."
Instead, Vance's speech brought America's domestic culture war to the global stage. "The threat that I worry the most about vis-à-vis Europe is not Russia, it's not China, it's not any other external actor," he said. "What I worry about is the threat from within: the retreat of Europe from some of its most fundamental values, values shared with the United States of America."
It's a strange mirror of the Biden administration, which tried to tie its foreign policy to its domestic agenda. Former President Joe Biden began his administration promising a "foreign policy for the middle class" and a global alliance of democracies, with Europe as the centerpiece. The Trump administration is similarly kicking off its foreign policy agenda with a lecture to Europe about democracy—but in favor of conservative rather than progressive values.
Vance framed his address as a defense of free speech. "In Washington, there is a new sheriff in town. And under Donald Trump's leadership, we may disagree with your views, but we will fight to defend your right to offer them in the public square," Vance said. He cited some egregious violations, including a Romanian election that was annulled over Russian interference conspiracy theories, a British man who was convicted of silently praying outside an abortion clinic, and a Swedish man convicted of burning the Quran.
"Sometimes the loudest voices for censorship have come not from within Europe, but from within my own country, where the prior administration threatened and bullied social media companies to censor so-called misinformation," Vance added, citing the suppression of the COVID-19 lab-leak theory.
Still, the speech wasn't about taking a hands-off approach to other countries' politics; Vance was clearly endorsing the European right, particularly its anti-immigration politics. "Of all the pressing challenges that the nations represented here face, I believe there is nothing more urgent than mass migration," he said. "No voter on this continent went to the ballot box to open the floodgates to millions of unvetted immigrants…More and more all over Europe, they are voting for political leaders who promise to put an end to out-of-control migration." He mentioned yesterday's car ramming attack in Munich by an Afghan refugee.
And Vance told Germans not to get too annoyed with Trump administration adviser Elon Musk's commentary on their elections. Musk has been loudly supporting the right-wing Alternative for Germany in upcoming elections. The current front-runner, the center-right Christian Democratic Union, has called Musk's comments an inappropriate foreign intervention and threatened to retaliate against his businesses.
"Speaking up and expressing opinions isn't election interference," Vance said. "Even when people express views outside your own country, and even when those people are very influential—and trust me, I say this with all humor—if American democracy can survive 10 years of Greta Thunberg's scolding, you guys can survive a few months of Elon Musk."
For all its criticisms of Democrats' and neoconservatives' foreign adventurism, the "America First" movement turns out to have plenty of crusades it wants to pursue abroad. Of course, scolding allies from the bully pulpit is a lot less destructive than waging a hot war. Then again, the Biden administration didn't start off wanting a fight in Ukraine and Gaza, either.
"For years we've been told that everything we fund and support is in the name of our shared democratic values. Everything from our Ukraine policy to digital censorship is billed as a defense of democracy," Vance said. If he's not careful, his own "shared values" might turn into an excuse for conflict.
European Union High Representative for Foreign Affairs and Security Policy Kaja Kallas certainly took it that way. "Listening to that speech, they try to pick a fight with us," she said at the Munich conference. "And we don't want to a pick a fight with our friends."
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J D Vance is wrong about Europe.
Turns out that's the libertarian view. And defending free speech is culture warring. And the Biden administration didn't want war in Ukraine... Hahahahaha. Oh shit I spilled my beer.
Beltway libertarianism has gone full agree-to-disagree mode. They'd better hope Ron DeSantis doesn't ban the Sarco suicide pod...
You are the exact type that Kenyatta mocks for raw stupidity
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcHSxctSdmY
Europe dragged us into two WORLD WARS (my father served_ and toads llke you excuse their lazy immature approach to violence, jihad, open immigration, etc.
If Europe is to die without us wiping their noses (as you want) then let it be
Whoa, lighten up there, big brain.
It’s a joke.
..the Biden administration didn't start off wanting a fight in Ukraine and Gaza, either.
Are you certain about that?
The atlantic council has wanted the fight for decades.
Certainly since Putin rejected the feminist/queer cult subversion. To none of my shock, Mike Benz pointed out that Pussy Riot was CIA astroturf sponsored by USAID.
I’m shocked!
The Biden administration did everything in its power to start a proxy war with Russia. Actually the Obama administration also did everything within its power as well.
J.D. needs to set the ground work now for theocratic rule during his first term as President. Russ Vought ("Christian Nationism") will help domestically, but if anything is to be learned from The Handmaid's Tale, there can't be places to escape to, like Canada or Europe. So, it is critical that theocratic rule also spread globally before Vance becomes president.
Huh?
I think this is a post script to "mostly peaceful" in relation to American cities burning.
You sound sane. Wait. Retarded. Yes. Retarded.
I think it's Hank but a less eloquent version. He must be off his meds again.
Have you met Hank Phillips? I think you guys would get along famously.
Shhhh, no one is supposed to say that part out loud.
What a surprise you and Doug Heffernan bring the dumbest take.
Nothing says Christian Nationalism (whatever the fuck that is besides a leftist wet dream) like free speech.
Is the adding of the word Christian supposed to make it even more scary, even more uber evil?
Oh no not those evil Christians. Run for the hills, the religion of judge not lest ye be judged, love your neighbor, and treat your neighbor how you want to be treated is after us. Oh what will we do.
Of all the world's religions, including atheism, I think I'd be the least scared of Christians coming after me. All I'd have to do to escape is start a debate on the nature of the Trinity and the ideal of justification through faith vs justification through work, and they'd be to busy debating each other to accomplish much else.
Some other subjects to throw out to detract your Christian persecutors. Is Genesis literal or allegorical. Is Job literal or allegorical. What is the true nature of the book of Revelations. Should the Apocrypha be included in the Bible. What are you stances on predestination. What are your views on infant baptism. I'm a Lutheran, and you know what they say about Lutherans, if you have two Lutherans in the same room, you'll get three different takes on religion. And that's just one denomination. Can you imagine Baptists and Catholics and Lutherans and Presbyterians and Anglican agreeing on anything long enough to actually run a country like the mullahs run Iran?
Fuck you couldn't even get Free Lutherans and ECLA and Missouri Synod and Wisconsin Synod to agree to an unified doctrine to run a country. For that matter you couldn't get small town ECLA and big city ECLA to agree on a unified governing doctrine (Bishop Eaton isn't popular outside a few big cities and she's supposed head of our denomination).
And that's the western churches, throw in the Eastern churches, and they wouldn't even be able to agree as to what day the two holiest holidays, Christmas and Easter, should be celebrated on.
DOUBLE CHRISTIAN!!! EVERYONE PANIC!!!
THEY'RE GOING TO STEAL OUR ABORTIONS AND CLOSE THE BORDER!!!
Those kinds of Christians seem a little thin on the ground these days. Prosperity gospel grifters and culture warriors may or may not be more numerous, but they're definitely a lot louder.
Well in his defense he did use scare quotes.
I mean can you really imagine a Christian State Police, it'd be a fucking Monty Python skit.
'Oh no, it's the Christian Stasi, quick someone lay out the Eucharist but offer wine, grape juice and water, and drop part of the host on the ground. It's the only WAY to foil them.
It'd be like the auditor trap from a Terry Pratchett discworld book.
The Stupid fucks don't realize that there was a nationalist, Protestant Evangelical Christian Theocracy from the 16th to the 18th century and it was called the Dutch Republic.
And it was about as far away from "The Handmaids Tale" as you can get.
One of the most enlightened and capitalistic societies ever. So capitalistic that they actually gave loans and sold weapons to France while they were at war with France.
You’re welcome to say all the ridiculous shit you want.
Did that make sense in your demented mind? It's the afternoon so I can only assume you're sundowning.
Mr. Heffernan, what you've just said was one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in the commentariat is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
Doug, you sound like some Nazi hag in Argentian after overseeing the concentration camps,. You want to equate the American Founding, the UN Decl on Human Rights and all the epochal progress as tehocratic. It is just the opposite. It was the Christianity of the Founding that gave us Freedom of Religion. You have it backwards.
I don't understand this anti-culture-war stance. A culture which respects free speech, for example, is more likely to have laws which enact it and courts which enforce it. It's not like Europe has a "leave me alone" attitude toward its people, or even the rest of the world. Calling that out is no sin.
Totally correct.
The Pope said as much
"This was already evident from remarks addressed by him to the Polish bishops in his home country at the very start of his pontificate. He said that Europe still needed to seek its fundamental unity and had to turn to Christianity in order to do so. Included in his words were these: “Christianity must commit itself anew to the formation of the spiritual unity of Europe. Economic and political reasons alone are not enough. We must go deeper to the ethical reasons”.[3] These words form an easy bridge to the thought of the present pope, Benedict XVI, on the subject of Europe, since he too focuses on European identity – on the cultural and spiritual foundations on which it rests – and seeks to articulate what Europe is in order to tease out the contribution it can be expected to make to the future of its peoples."
Every time a girl is attacked in Europe by Muslims, this point is made.
See Aayan Hirsi Ali's totally convincing argument that there can be no unity in any country when you let in monsters who hate the principles of your Founding.
"in the German city of Cologne, on New Year’s Eve 2015. In the square near the city’s cathedral, some 1,500 men of Arab and North African backgrounds massed together. These men, mostly asylum seekers, sexually harassed and assaulted seemingly any women they could grab. Some victims described being separated from friends or husbands, and “pushed inside ‘hell circles’ of young migrant men.” The men “groped women and girls, no matter their age, appearance or circumstances, grabbing their breasts and between their legs. One woman described several men trying to insert their fingers into her vagina.” Some assaults went on for upwards of thirty minutes."
JD Vance argues for free speech, including letting people who agree with him speak freely. That's a culture war issue? Really?
My god the editing here is terrible. TERRIBLE.
Well, Petti is just an assistant editor. Maybe he’ll learn to properly edit when he grows up.
Which means someone let him publish that garbage.
This is lazy writing and lazy editing. They don't want to argue against free speech, but they also don't like the anti-immigration stance. Rather than write the 50th argument against immigration, they are trying to take a bunch of rhetorical leaps. It isn't just that he is against immigration, you see, it is that he is bringing "culture war issues" to Europe. It is an attempt to smear objectionable content so you don't have to confront it on its merits.
They already got rid of their open borders nutjob, so I don't see why they can't replace them with hack writers.
What, is Fiona actually gone?
Pretty much this. Petti obviously phoned it in. Open borders are the beginning and end of Reason libertarianism. Although their neocon contributors worry a lot about the borders of Ukraine that Stalin drew up.
It is, I guess. It's just that Petti is not totally on board with that not-terribly-cool "Free speech and democratic values" thing.
Petti is next-level stupid and totally out of the liberty element, it's been clear from his very first article
J.D. Vance Brings the Culture War to Europe: 'There Is a New Sheriff in Town'
Seriously? Who comes up with this shit.
Instead, Vance's speech brought America's domestic culture war to the global stage.
Clearly written by a barely-legal tweenager who doesn't watch any foreign media.
Sure, Reason, there Europe was, minding its own business when... ALL OF A SUDDEN!
And it absolutely did not do anything of the kind. Europe already has the same culture war going on there that's happening here, except the WEF thralls there have an easier time of brute-forcing their political opposition into silence due to their aristocratic history.
That's getting a lot harder now, and hopefully Vance's speech provides these people with the "permission structures" they need to finally bring these globalist fucks to heel.
There was an appropriate implied threat there, too, that the administration has absolutely no problem treating Europe as adversaries if they continue to insist on becoming a neo-Soviet Union or Maoist China. "Let 100 flowers bloom" ALWAYS becomes the "anti-rightist campaign" later on, and if the EU wants to fuck around, they can find out.
Europe is circling the drain. Holland is destroying agriculture because of cow farts. The economic powerhouse, Germany, is broke with centuries old companies going bankrupt. Sweden's crime rates at unprecedented highs thanks to open borders. UK covering up rape gangs for over a decade. The whole continent is freezing without coal, nuclear and Russian gas. Citizens all over facing criminal charges for liking a Facebook post. Fuck these assholes.
And because of all that, Klaus Schwab has a permanent erection.
But you are just like them. You can only say "my personal ethics is better than yours" --- no , Natural Law is the ratonal ansser.
Take Sweden.
What is the Philosophia Perennis on their letting anti-Christian Musllims in
when any foreigners wished to be admitted entirely to their fellowship and mode of worship. With regard to these a certain order was observed. For they were not at once admitted to citizenship: just as it was law with some nations that no one was deemed a citizen except after two or three generations, as the Philosopher says (Polit. iii, 1).”
if foreigners were allowed to meddle with the affairs of a nation as soon as they settled down in its midst, many dangers might occur, since the foreigners not yet having the common good firmly at heart might attempt something hurtful to the people.”
Saint Thomas teaches that immigration must have in mind the common good; it cannot destroy or overwhelm a nation.
This explains why so many Americans experience uneasiness caused by massive and disproportional immigration. Such policy artificially introduces a situation that destroys common points of unity and overwhelms the ability of a society to absorb new elements organically into a unified culture. The common good is no longer considered
Hell, they are doing it to SPITE the common good. The UK wanted to replace their voters with migrants. The rest of Europe is doing the same.
Seriously? Who comes up with this shit.
Yeah. I read "J.D. Vance Brings the Culture War to Europe" and did a mental spit take.
Did you miss the opening ceremony to the Olympics that was widely panned and even many Parisians apologized for online? Miss the protests across Europe? Miss people gluing themselves to floors and throwing soup at the artwork? Do you think they did it because the artwork was emitting carbon?
At this rate they're working to secure 2028 for Vance.
>>Instead, the vice president lectured Europeans about democracy.
sure as fuck did. ~~Brexit; Romania
They "did it in Romania, they can do it in Germany"
I find it interesting that this rag hasn’t reported on the massive censorship that happens in Europe, until Vance talked about it.
And there’s a bit of cross over between Reason and Spiked, so it’s not like they’re in a total information vacuum.
Does free speech allow editing interviews?
It allows the editing of "Hunter Biden Laptop" into "Russian Disinfo Op" apparently.
The correct answer is that it depends on who is interviewed and who complains.
So true. It's not censorship if the state knocks on your door with a tool bag containing pliers, saws, spikes, hammers, duct tape and zip ties and "asks you nicely" to delete the fuck out of everything they tell you delete in their daily morning 5 hour zoom call-- and not to worry about the consequences or lawsuits because Sexshun two thirtee.
Sarc is a Democrat statist.
You're a towel.
And you’re a drunk idiot.
Ideas™ !
I mean, all that censorship is free speech itself!
No clue, ask Kamala and CBS.
That wasn’t just editing….
That misstates both sides of the issue , the way you put it.
The editing of Kamala gave her answers she did NOT GIVE> EG on ISRAEL. so I ask you , in what sense was that an interview if what came out was the opposite of what she actuallyl said.
If he's not careful, his own "shared values" might turn into an excuse for conflict.
Who the fuck are the vertical ID 'tards writing for this magazine?
I’m not sure which is worse. This shit take, or the fact I’m not at all surprised by it.
At this point don't we expect it?
"The Munich Security Conference in Germany this weekend was supposed to host the opening salvo of the Trump administration's peace initiative for Ukraine. "
[citation/quote from the Trump admin needed to support assertion of USA's purpose in attending conference]
Please tell me Matthew is trolling here. Either that, oh he and Jakey and Eric are having a contest to see who can write the least libertarian take and get it published. Because any other alternative means Reason has finally given up any pretense at being libertarian.
Matthew, why shouldn't Vance call out our supposed friends for abandoning all pretense at a liberal, enlightened governing? Come on, you may not be that bright but it doesn't take much above a room temperature IQ yo understand calling out your friends when they act badly is what people with principles do. Fuck the Eurotrash authoritarians wearing the skin suits of liberalism and enlightenment.
It's time to stop pretending otherwise or worry about it their feelings, when they are in fact trying to figure out how to enforce their tyrannical laws even on Americans. Fuck them. I want more of this.
I have never understood why Reason insists that Western Europe and Australia are "liberal democracies" instead of just admitting that they have become Orwellian hellholes. It's like they slept through Covid and never woke up.
Open borders uber alles.
No kidding. Besides, as Reason itself has recognized, Europe's illiberal policies negatively affect Americans: https://reason.com/2024/08/23/free-speech-coalition-slaps-censorious-e-u-commissioner-who-threatened-elon-musk/
Europe's negative influence on American core values is certainly relevant to American foreign policy.
"If he's not careful, his own "shared values" might turn into an excuse for conflict."
OK. Explain that to me like I'm a 12 year old Jacob Sullum. You'll need to speak very slowly.
If defending the values of the American Constitution from the EU overreach, which includes trying to force American companies to enforce their censorship on even Americans and threatening Americans with prosecution for protected speech that happens in America that they don't like, and it comes to violence, that's actually what the US military is for. That is what we swear to protect. It's not to spread democracy, it's to protect the Constitution from any enemy. If it comes to violence, that's actually why we have a military.
That whole event was hilarious. He absolutely skull-fucked them with receipts, talked to them like he was scolding his kids for lying about getting in the cookie jar, and the best the Eurotrash could muster in response was a half-assed whine from that castrato German defense minister claiming that anyone not going along with the neoliberal WEF/Atlantic Council agenda was an "extremist." These dickweeds can't do anything except recite their religious mantras when someone accurately points out that they're being a bunch of Soviet-style apparatchiks.
If he's not careful, his own "shared values" might turn into an excuse for conflict.
If free speech ain't worth fighting over, why fucking bother being upset over Trump?
You already gave up on liberty.
As I pointed out this is the very thing we swear to defend when we join the military. If it comes to violence it'll be the first justified war since arguably September 1945 that this country fought.*
*Taking out Al Qaeda after 9/11 was justified but what happened after that wasn't. And would have been even more justified if we had issued a declaration of war, via Congress. Fuck nation building.
J.D. Vance Brings the Culture War to Europe
TRANNIE DANCING IS THE MOIST IMPORTANT ISSUE!
Sorry about your fellow hicklib pedos in Surrey, shriek.
I bet you think stopping men in g-strings and hooker boots from grinding in the faces of children is practically a holocaust.
To late pervert. Your glory days are over and sensible is back in style.
Out of curiosity, can you mention when Vance said a word about that?
I mean, he HAD to if you're referencing it.
Trans are sick people and you making fun of them is not helping them
turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
Vance gave a good speech. I'm not at all surprised Reason would take issue with it and at this point I don't even think I'm disappointed. Par for the course. Yet another example that a magazine founded to be a place for libertarian thought has become an apologist for Marxism.
"criticizing Team Red is support for Marxism"
Fvck off. JDV was upholding individual freedom against attacks by oppressive totalitarian elitists. More libertarian than anything youve ever said or done.
How many people here have told you to fuck off today, Chemjeff? 30? 40?
I agree with you but Libertarians have been anti-Religion and Anti_freedom of religion since before my time. The verry foundation of America is unacceptanble to them. Ever hear of a Libertarians working for freedom of Religion. Me neither.
Logicaly, the State is GOD or it isn't.
“Adam was found guilty of breaking the government’s new Buffer Zones Law, which criminalises silent prayer and other actions that could influence a person’s decision within 200 metres of an abortion facility.”
Do you agree with this? Do you think that law should exist in a supposedly liberal democracy?
Notice no answer from Lying Jeffy. Revealing.
YOu can never know that someone is silently praying and that would be a thought crime if you were honest. Everyone has a right to silently pray anywhere., Think about it. That law can't exist, by logic, by natural law, by testimony of history
In Romania under Nicolae Ceaușescu you could go to prison if a neighbor reported you acting as if you believed in God. There is no difference
"Mister Scholz, tear down this firewall."
unfortunately, when I look at Europe today, it’s sometimes not so clear what happened to some of the cold war’s winners.
If you’re running in fear of your own voters, there is nothing America can do for you
I look to Brussels, where EU Commission commissars warned citizens that they intend to shut down social media during times of civil unrest: the moment they spot what they’ve judged to be ‘hateful content’. Or to this very country where police have carried out raids against citizens suspected of posting anti-feminist comments online as part of ‘combating misogyny’ on the internet.
I look to Sweden, where two weeks ago, the government convicted a Christian activist for participating in Quran burnings that resulted in his friend’s murder. And as the judge in his case chillingly noted, Sweden’s laws to supposedly protect free expression do not, in fact, grant – and I’m quoting – a ‘free pass’ to do or say anything without risking offending the group that holds that belief.
And perhaps most concerningly, I look to our very dear friends, the United Kingdom, where the backslide away from conscience rights has placed the basic liberties of religious Britons in particular in the crosshairs. A little over two years ago, the British government charged Adam Smith Conner, a 51-year-old physiotherapist and an Army veteran, with the heinous crime of standing 50 metres from an abortion clinic and silently praying for three minutes, not obstructing anyone, not interacting with anyone, just silently praying on his own. After British law enforcement spotted him and demanded to know what he was praying for, Adam replied simply, it was on behalf of his unborn son.
He and his former girlfriend had aborted years before. Now the officers were not moved. Adam was found guilty of breaking the government’s new Buffer Zones Law, which criminalises silent prayer and other actions that could influence a person’s decision within 200 metres of an abortion facility. He was sentenced to pay thousands of pounds in legal costs to the prosecution.
Now, I wish I could say that this was a fluke, a one-off, crazy example of a badly written law being enacted against a single person. But no. This last October, just a few months ago, the Scottish government began distributing letters to citizens whose houses lay within so-called safe access zones, warning them that even private prayer within their own homes may amount to breaking the law. Naturally, the government urged readers to report any fellow citizens suspected guilty of thought crime in Britain and across Europe.
Free speech, I fear, is in retreat and in the interests of comedy, my friends, but also in the interest of truth, I will admit that sometimes the loudest voices for censorship have come not from within Europe, but from within my own country, where the prior administration threatened and bullied social media companies to censor so-called misinformation. Misinformation, like, for example, the idea that coronavirus had likely leaked from a laboratory in China. Our own government encouraged private companies to silence people who dared to utter what turned out to be an obvious truth.
So I come here today not just with an observation, but with an offer. And just as the Biden administration seemed desperate to silence people for speaking their minds, so the Trump administration will do precisely the opposite, and I hope that we can work together on that.
In Washington, there is a new sheriff in town. And under Donald Trump’s leadership, we may disagree with your views, but we will fight to defend your right to offer them in the public square. Now, we’re at the point, of course, that the situation has gotten so bad that this December, Romania straight up cancelled the results of a presidential election based on the flimsy suspicions of an intelligence agency and enormous pressure from its continental neighbours. Now, as I understand it, the argument was that Russian disinformation had infected the Romanian elections. But I’d ask my European friends to have some perspective. You can believe it’s wrong for Russia to buy social media advertisements to influence your elections. We certainly do. You can condemn it on the world stage, even. But if your democracy can be destroyed with a few hundred thousand dollars of digital advertising from a foreign country, then it wasn’t very strong to begin with.
Now, the good news is that I happen to think your democracies are substantially less brittle than many people apparently fear.
To believe in democracy is to understand that each of our citizens has wisdom and has a voice
And I really do believe that allowing our citizens to speak their mind will make them stronger still. Which, of course, brings us back to Munich, where the organisers of this very conference have banned lawmakers representing populist parties on both the left and the right from participating in these conversations. Now, again, we don’t have to agree with everything or anything that people say. But when political leaders represent an important constituency, it is incumbent upon us to at least participate in dialogue with them.
Now, to many of us on the other side of the Atlantic, it looks more and more like old entrenched interests hiding behind ugly Soviet era words like misinformation and disinformation, who simply don’t like the idea that somebody with an alternative viewpoint might express a different opinion or, God forbid, vote a different way, or even worse, win an election
These words were dead on. Thank God we have realists back in charge of foreign policy.
the vice president lectured Europeans about democracy.
They need one. Rule by unelected bureaucrat is not Democracy. It's kind of funny noting today's left wingers whining that Musk is unelected even as their desired end-state is a Brave New World micro-level style European Union.
So he is elected or no?
My favorite habit of you disgusting fascist pigs is your willingness to say something is good for you to do precisely because it was bad for someone else to do.
Does it matter?
It seems very strange to defend the jobs and prerogatives of unelected bureaucrats by saying the person who is leading the organization investigating them is also unelected.
You are very poorly quoting T S Eliot
“The last act is the greatest treason. To do the right deed for the wrong reason.”
― T.S. Eliot
Something is good independent of the opinion of the whole world !!!
"Reducing the bureaucracy is fascism!" Yes, Tony we realize you don't like your own "liberating tolerance" getting shoved down your throat. Get ready to choke on it, bitch.
Answer: Elected is not even the question?
Melania influences Trump hugely. Would you say 'elected or not"?
Trump IS ELECTED and he asked Musk for help. There is no more than that. We now know how many horrible horrible folks Biden had working behind the scenes.
Vance is a vapid ridiculous cum rag of a person.
I don't even understand how such a human void could have strong enough feelings about anything to promote global fascism.
Maybe that's the point. Fascists are human voids with ambition.
There's no reason. Elon admits constantly on Shitter that he's ruining the world for the lulz.
Naturally y'all are lining up to be his scrotum powderers.
If alleged fascists are arguing for freedom of speech and conscience, then are they the bad guys?
Yes, and for the reason that Plato gave
In his essay “Abuse of Language, Abuse of Power,” German philosopher Josef Pieper (1904‒1997) argues that the abuse of language leads to the abuse of power. Pieper draws on Plato's struggles with the Sophists to illustrate the dangers of corrupting language.
https://voegelinview.com/the-misuse-and-abuse-of-words-reflecting-on-misology-with-plato-and-josef-pieper/
Then when do we start rounding up the Post-Modernists, the "language evolves" and other Progressive Orwellian BS artists, and remove them from polite society?
Orwell would not want any reaction but a stepping up of speaking the Truth . Can't imagine he wouldn't love Vance
Do you begin to see, then, what kind of world we are creating? It is the exact opposite of the stupid hedonistic Utopias that the old reformers imagined. A world of fear and treachery and torment, a world of trampling and being trampled upon, a world which will grow not less but more merciless as it refines itself. Progress in our world will be progress toward more pain.
George Orwell
Yes, all the more so. Always keep in mind that what you say and do is not a direct link to why you do it
“The last temptation is the greatest treason: To do the right deed for the wrong reason.”
"Vance is a vapid ridiculous cum rag of a person."
Your jealousy is obvious. Fuck off and die, pile of shit.
JD is only a Harvard grad, best-selling author, former Senator and current VP.
Tony's resume, I have to assume, is far better.
He once claimed to be "an editor", which I've come to believe is the editor of 'The Dog Walker's Weekly' in some gated assisted living facility.
Posts like this are how you know Vance hit the bullseye.
I'm trying to understand how Vance elicits such visceral hatred from this guy. The only way I can understand it outside of what regular people do - disagree with reasonable ('within normal parameters') people and state your reasoned arguments why you have this conflict. But this... just signals MY TEAM GOOD HIS TEAM BAD
(and also a deep rooted FEAR - fear Vance may be effective in undoing those things that are valued... like quasi fascist socialism by bureaucrats )
Tony's a mincing faggot who's pissed his funding stream got cut off when USAID was shut down. That's why he's suddenly popped up here again after four years.
Yes, to marxists, anyone who resists their retarded political theology is a fascist.
"Vapid ridiculous cumrag."
You are defining yourself and other gay bottoms.
Fascists are certainly well known for insisting on free elections and free speech.
I have to ask --- if fascism supports liberal values, why is fascism bad?
Eat too much health food and you die. You replaced 'insisting' with 'supports" but that is the crux of what he said. If an almost perfect Founding like the US's fails, well, why must it of necessity succeed. You can't take drastic inhuman measures in the name of free anything. If the majority are abominable then the results follow
No one guarantees any outcome and all you can and should do is make sure that it reaches its goal in a moral and rights-respecting manner. NO GUARANTEES
Tony, you are the star witness in the case to show you are a fool.
Filthy mouth. DIsrespectful, and your way of speaking is pellucidly psycho...you say I don't even understand and then post that you understand perfectly well.
The lazy fear mongering against a vaguely defined "right", as if that justifies removing the civil liberties of those categorized as of "the right".
""No voter on this continent went to the ballot box to open the floodgates to millions of unvetted immigrants…More and more all over Europe, they are voting for political leaders who promise to put an end to out-of-control migration." He mentioned yesterday's car ramming attack in Munich by an Afghan refugee."
It is not as if the immigration crisis and anti-free speech policies are not related.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8QZQk_yBwI
"Jamie Michael was jailed for "racist" Facebook post, then cleared - how the state silences dissent"
A retired British Marine made a video about the Southport racially motivated massacre of a dance class of young girls by the mentally disturbed son of Houthi refugees calling for genocide against whites. A Labour MP had the Marine arrested for "hate speech", though he was exonerated by a jury. The fact that he was arrested and tried at all is an indication of the UK's anti-free speech problem.
“Thank you VP Vance for speaking about my case.For anyone who thinks he’s exaggerating I can assure you he is not. I was convicted because I was praying for my son who died in an abortion. If I’d been praying for a friend who died in Afghanistan I would not have been convicted.”
https://x.com/ChooseLifeSoton/status/1890424585771721035
“Culture war” huh? Go fuck yourself with a rusty rake Petti.
You are a disgusting person and I know you know it
I saw an African leader mock the thinking of this sorry writing on why we should let Europe lead us by the nose.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcHSxctSdmY
All these years later and Brexit is not accomplished. THe people want it and the government doesn't. The people serve the government??
"DOGE gets mixed reviews from conservatives who have long wanted major budget cuts"
[...]
"DES MOINES, Iowa (AP) — Conservatives who have spent decades promoting deep cuts to government are giving mixed reviews to the Department of Government Efficiency, the Elon Musk-led project to slash the federal workforce and reduce or end disfavored programs.
The Associated Press interviewed four veteran budget hawks, including some who have worked on Republican presidential campaigns predating Musk or President Donald Trump becoming dominant in GOP politics..."
AP located some never-Trumpers, film at 11.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/politics/government/doge-gets-mixed-reviews-from-conservatives-who-have-long-wanted-major-budget-cuts/ar-AA1z4xxI?ocid=BingNewsSerp
four veteran budget hawks
I love the depiction of these guys as having slugged it out in the trenches to fight a winning battle against Charlie rather than the fact that they took a deferment and are 0-for-a-bazillion.
Four longtime budget cowbirds.
It's not shocking news that farmers living off the gravy train of being paid to not farm are against cutting that, just as it's not shocking news they pretty much support everything else Trump is doing.
humans be like that yo
Also "It Is Difficult to Get a Man to Understand Something When His Salary Depends Upon His Not Understanding It"
I myself take advantage of tax breaks I think should not exist. That is not a good argument. THe people hurt are the hungry who don't get that food the farmer is paid not to produce !!!
Behind all this is people who are not affected getting to dictate death to the ones affected.
Comes to mind the insanely stupid move by Pres Clinton to send 'free food' to Haiti thus DESTROYING the livelihoods of the Haitian farmers. He later said 'Sorry' but it was imbecilic.
https://www.tiktok.com/@bertrhude/video/7208667439536639274?is_from_webapp=1&sender_device=pc
Gee, Cato is opposed to it. Mind-blowing.
As is one of Romney's advisors. Certainly a competent bunch of folks there.
Cato has joined Reason in the $5/year donation bucket, just so they know they're not forgotten.
"Oscar-Winning Singer Buffy Sainte-Marie Stripped of Her Order of Canada Honor After Indigenous Heritage Scandal"
[...]
"Canadian Music Hall of Fame inductee Buffy Sainte-Marie has been stripped of her prestigious Order of Canada appointment, more than one year after a scandal that found the singer allegedly lied about her Indigenous heritage...."
https://www.msn.com/en-us/society-culture-and-history/pop-culture/oscar-winning-singer-buffy-sainte-marie-stripped-of-her-order-of-canada-honor-after-indigenous-heritage-scandal/ar-AA1yIw43?ocid=BingNewsSerp
Can we sic these people on Fauxcahantaus?
A fun new activity I’ve been doing is going to X and reading the responses there to these shit articles. This one was particularly great.
https://x.com/reason/status/1890508987772334174
They have a lot of bot responses and lefty critics/defenders. It's nice when people come together and tell them how retarded these articles are. You have to go to the individual writers posts too. That's where they usually encounter their own hive mind bubble. Binion has a surprisingly large number of npc lefties on his stuff.
This site needs to leave DC so bad it boggles the mind.
When you are not hard in support of free speech, your usefulness as a libertarian publication ceases to exist.
Going off the rails on the gravy train.
The USA literally purchased a generation of peace for the EU/UK with our blood and treasure. Now it's time to gauge the ROI.
"..."For years we've been told that everything we fund and support is in the name of our shared democratic values. Everything from our Ukraine policy to digital censorship is billed as a defense of democracy," Vance said. If he's not careful, his own "shared values" might turn into an excuse for conflict..."
Or perhaps sugar-daddy won't be as generous with my money.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XyPKofRP00
THe world is literally laughing at the sugar daddy principle. One example but if you go to Sky News in Australia you'll see more
If Vance doesnt lecture them about their complete abandonment of liberal ideals (in the true enlightenment sense) and newfound devotion to tryanny and micromanagement of the citizenry all the way down to their very thoughts ...
then who will? Cause they need to be told.
says you, wtf are you? MYOB
Was there a point intended in that mess? You should 'keep searching' for a second brain cell.
The US should immediately terminate all alliances, treaties and trade agreements; call all of our ambassadors and troops home; and start minding our own business for a change. I could not care less what China does to the rest of the world or how Europe tries to respond to it. The US should maintain an unbeatable military defense force and worldwide Navy patrol in international waters and watch patiently while the rest of the world sorts things out amongst themselves. If American producers want to trade with anyone else, let them do so at their own risk. America has no vital national interests outside our borders.
I disagree with the gist of this article. Why sacrifice American blood and treasure in defense of cultures that no longer respect individual rights?
It's like doing CPR on someone who just shot himself in the head.
You are unanswerable correct. IT would not be sacrifice it would be pointless suicide. Dying to allow abortionists to kill babies, dying to save gay marriage, dying to keep trans front and center in a world where that is considered in many cultures something despicable.
One dies for principlel and not for license and animal perversion
What an idiot, who the fuck asked him to spout out catholic nonsense. the guy is a weirdo.
The people at that conference who want the US to keep paying for their national defense did, by proxy. That's who.
Interesting to hear Vance's speech compared to a Chinese general's interview with DW news at the same conference
Vance didn't even mention NATO or Ukraine at a security conference. And even dismissed China as a threat. The Chinese general spoke about the war, what China might do to bring a security guarantee or rebuilding afterwards. The adult in the room
I'm gonna guess that Europe starts pivoting to China - but NOT in synch with the US. More to counter Russian threat to Europe in the short term. While the US seems to be hitching its wagon to Russia to counter China.
While getting deeper stuck in the Middle East while China makes inroads there as well.
Won't end well for the US. But stupid is what stupid does
Here's the link to the DW interview with the Chinese general
"...Won't end well for the US. But stupid is what stupid does..."
Your predictions have been nearly universally wrong, but that's because you're full of shit.
Wow, your own argument defeats you
First you paint Europe monolithically an irrecoverable error. Hungary and Poland will not do that. And since Italy's Meloni hates Macron's guts and vice versa that won't happen either.
As to your juvenile and uninformed view of immigration take a listen, O thou Macron clone 🙂
https://youtu.be/lIuy7Ozj9wI
Any bad ending as a result of current European politics will not even remotely approach all of the bad endings for the United States over the last hundred and twenty years of entangling alliances serving as an excuse for United States adventurism and making the world safe for democracy. Anyone sane would long ago have questioned American foreign policy and started disentangling us from the never-ending war on everything. But, no. Every disastrous foreign adventure in American history has, instead, served as the excuse for politicians to get us entangled in the next disastrous foreign adventure. Are you sick of it yet? Or do you want to send even more of our resources and children down the rat-hole?
Vance is right.
You'll do more time in the UK for complaining about murderous raping immigrants that you'll do for *being* a murderous raping immigrant.
“When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you. They’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists..."
Correct then and now.
That the Musk Administration decided Munich was where they would appease fascism is appropriate.
Lying comes easily to ignorant TDS-addled shit-piles.
but logically this does not establish that you are not one of them, does it ?
Oh, look: a mindless MAGAt. Fuck off.
He is totally vindicated at the Economics level , suprisingly for both US and Europe
Numerous Reports Show Immigration Crisis Sapping US Economy
February 16, 2025
https://www.dailysignal.com/2025/02/16/numerous-reports-show-immigration-crisis-sapping-us-economy/
First of all, there is no such thing as the "US economy" so it's impossible to "sap" a non-existent entity. Everything after that is obviously irrelevant, so go peddle it somewhere else.
LOL.
Thanks for the idiot propaganda.
In a world of free trade it is almost impossible to prevent national regulations from impacting the business of other nations. If Germany forbids the sale of American products in Germany that do not comply with "higher" German quality standards, American producers must either redesign their products for German markets or abandon trade with Germany. Meanwhile, "higher" quality German products can be sold in America usually at a much higher price. Along the same line, if a social media platform is beamed via satellite into every nation in the world, how can that content be censored in any particular nation and how can that nation punish the international service provider?