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DOGE

The DOGE Bait and Switch

The pretend department’s downgraded mission reflects the gap between Trump’s promise of "smaller government" and the reality of what can be achieved without new legislation.

Jacob Sullum | 2.12.2025 12:01 AM

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Donald Trump's much-ballyhooed Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) does not actually exist. The program's official status is more significant than it might seem, because it reflects the yawning gap between the president's promises of fiscal restraint and the reality of what can be accomplished without new legislation.

Billionaire entrepreneur Elon Musk first pitched the DOGE idea last August after Trump said he might appoint the world's richest man as a policy adviser. "I am willing to serve," Musk wrote on X, his social media platform, above an AI-created image of himself standing at a lectern labeled "Department of Government Efficiency."

That imaginary department's acronym alluded to dogecoin, a Musk-championed cryptocurrency that was originally created as a joke but became "too important to laugh off," as Barron's put it in 2021. Musk's DOGE concept followed a similar trajectory after Trump took him up on his offer, putting him in charge of a project that Trump said would bring "drastic change" to the federal government.

From the beginning, DOGE's mission was ambiguous. While Musk had said the Trump administration could cut "at least 2 trillion" from annual federal spending, which totaled nearly $7 trillion in FY 2024, Trump's vision sounded decidedly more modest.

After the election last November, Trump said DOGE would "drive out the massive waste and fraud which exists throughout" the federal budget, resulting in "a smaller Government, with more efficiency and less bureaucracy." A week later, Musk and former presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy, who at that point was supposed to help run DOGE, clarified that they would focus on "driving change through executive action based on existing legislation rather than by passing new laws."

Trump dampened expectations further on his first day in office, when he issued an executive order "Establishing and Implementing the President's 'Department of Government Efficiency.'" The scare quotes were appropriate.

Trump's order renamed the United States Digital Service (USDS), a "small team" that President Barack Obama created in 2014 to make government websites "more consumer friendly" and "help upgrade the government's technology infrastructure." That team, Trump declared, would henceforth be known as the United States DOGE Service.

Trump's order also established "the U.S. DOGE Service Temporary Organization." That Musk-run organization—confusingly subsumed under the USDS, a previously obscure unit within the Executive Office of the President—is charged with "modernizing federal technology and software to maximize efficiency and productivity."

This is what became of Musk's so-called department. Its shoehorned nature was necessary because only Congress can create new executive-branch departments.

It likewise remains true that only Congress can deliver the sort of spending cuts that Musk originally imagined. The national debt held by the public is already about the same size as the entire U.S. economy, and tackling that problem is impossible without addressing the main components of the federal budget, including Social Security, Medicare, and military spending.

Trump's commitments, reflected in his campaign promises and the 2024 Republican platform, seem to rule out any such changes. Worse, Trump, after adding an estimated $8.4 trillion to the national debt during his first term, has proposed policies that could add another $7.8 trillion.

In this context, DOGE's dramatically downgraded mission makes sense. That does not mean Musk cannot achieve significant savings by attacking "waste and fraud." But his splashiest attempts so far have involved politically motivated cuts that don't amount to much, may not stick because of legal challenges, or both.

The Trump administration's controversial attempt to dismantle the U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID) epitomizes both problems. While foreign aid is a perennially appealing target for conservatives, the entire USAID budget accounts for less than 1 percent of federal spending, and the agency cannot be legally abolished without congressional approval.

While rooting for Musk's success, Ramaswamy says the now-solo DOGE chief's "technology-focused approach" contrasts with his own "legal, constitutional, legislative focus in downsizing government." No matter what Musk achieves with the former, averting fiscal catastrophe will still require the latter.

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Jacob Sullum is a senior editor at Reason. He is the author, most recently, of Beyond Control: Drug Prohibition, Gun Regulation, and the Search for Sensible Alternatives (Prometheus Books).

DOGEGovernment SpendingFiscal policyNational DebtBudget DeficitElon MuskDonald TrumpTrump AdministrationElection 2024Foreign AidEntitlementsSocial SecurityMedicareDefense SpendingTechnologyVivek Ramaswamy
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  1. Overt   1 year ago

    Look at them swarm. The naysayers; the doomseekers; the sharks angling for chum.

    They did this when they were convinced Musk would fail with his takeover of Twitter. And as they did then, there will be zero introspection as they move onto the next criticism.

    Holy shit, a bunch of mavericks are in the government and they can't do everything they wanted to do? And they are pivoting? Well call the President.

    Let's be clear that this is the same on prevaricating from Sullum that Libertarians engage in whenever someone they don't like tries attacking government. "You have to deal with Social Security". "You have to change legislation." "Mewwlllll mewwwlll". No shit, sherlock. But you can also get started cutting government waste in other places.

    The hope for DOGE was always to get some wins and build momentum that brings many other people along to do bigger stuff, like changing legislation and approaching entitlements. Either Sullum doesn't understand this, in which case he is a myopic moron, or he understands this and is actively doing everything he can to stop any momentum from gaining.

    1. Tony   1 year ago

      You’re following a moron who named a fake government agency after a shitcoin and is going to steal your social security for shits and giggles.

      The thing about fascism is how fucking ridiculous it is until the camps come. Oh wait, they’re here. Send in the cunts.

      1. IceTrey   1 year ago

        SS was stolen a long time ago. There's no lockbox with your money in it.

        1. Tony   1 year ago

          Enjoy old-age poverty I guess? Enjoy the random natural selection of spending all your hard-earned money on keeping your parents in nursing homes? Capitalism!

          I thought even you libertarian hypocrites supported SS since you “paid into” it.

          I can’t wait until all the chaos and destruction you ordered inconveniences you in even the slightest way. We all saw how you whined about hygiene during Covid and egg prices during bird flu. You’re totally prepared for what’s coming, I’m sure.

          1. JesseAz (mean girl ambassador)   1 year ago

            Typical Marxist always depending on government for his needs instead of being self reliant and saving.

            1. Quo Usque Tandem   1 year ago

              He cannot get himself a real sugar daddy, so he always defaults to government [that is, you and I take care of him in perpetuity].

            2. Tony   1 year ago

              Oh so you won’t whine like a little bitch if your social security is disappeared? How noble.

              1. Truthfulness   1 year ago

                I'm sorry you can't abuse Social Security anymore. Time to save up and support yourself.

              2. Don’t get eliminated (all the sudden I have no idea where I am on the list)   1 year ago

                Glorious. Please continue.

              3. JesseAz (mean girl ambassador)   1 year ago

                I'm not dependent on the SS payment. No. I'm not expecting to get near what I've paid in.

                If i could stop paying today and give up all rights to it, I would let the government keep what I've paid in no questions asked.

                1. Tony   1 year ago

                  Then you’re a sucker and a cuck. The means of keeping SS “solvent” are well known, not that it’s particularly just anyway to have such a regressive social welfare program, but it does seem to have insulated it from some measure of destruction so far.

                  Old people starving is not good for you or me. It’s a problem we solved. The problem these cuntholes are trying to solve is not having a trillion dollars to spend on private countries for themselves.

                  1. BigT   1 year ago

                    not that it’s particularly just anyway to have such a regressive social welfare program
                    Just another Democrat scam by the greatest scam artist of them all, FDR. ESAD

          2. Bertram Guilfoyle   1 year ago

            Enjoy old-age poverty I guess? Enjoy the random natural selection of spending all your hard-earned money on keeping your parents in nursing homes? Capitalism!

            THIS IS WHAT TONY ACTUALLY BELIEVES

            1. Tony   1 year ago

              How silly of me. I forgot libertarians eat their parents at retirement.

              1. InsaneTrollLogic (On The List!)   1 year ago

                Then what are you doing here, postmodernist libertine?

                1. VULGAR MADMAN   1 year ago

                  He’s trying to cope with what’s happening.

          3. ErinS   1 year ago

            It’s not ‘random natural selection.’ Free housing, healthcare, education, college, cell phone, food and it’s still not enough. These programs are for people that are disabled, people that are destitute, not just a way of life for millions. It’s not economically feasible and the reason we’re in this mess is out of control spending and warmongering.

      2. Weigel's Cock Ring   1 year ago

        Holy fucking shit, I haven't seen you around here in forever, Krugscum. I guess you have way more time on your hands now that the New York Times fired your sorry loser ass!

        Elon has more intellect in his little fingernail than you have in that pathetic little brain of yours.

        1. Tony   1 year ago

          The beauty of the claim by his virginal sycophants that this random cringe lesbian is intelligent is that it is prepackaged data on your own intelligence.

          1. VULGAR MADMAN   1 year ago

            Is this helping you cope with seeing your world being destroyed?

            1. Don’t get eliminated (all the sudden I have no idea where I am on the list)   1 year ago

              Nothing appears to be helping him cope.

            2. Tony   1 year ago

              The only thing that will please me is when the leopard eats your face.

              You want vast extralegal revolutionary change?

              Yeah right up until the moment you’re asked to wear a mask or pay an extra dollar for eggs.

              You’re so fucked.

              1. DesigNate   1 year ago

                Except none of this stuff is extralegal. You know, cause the president heads the executive branch. And it’s only revolutionary because no one else has even bothered to try and expose the waste.

                Sorry your graft was exposed.

          2. Weigel's Cock Ring   1 year ago

            Enjoy spending the rest of your days living on Social Security and binge-watching crappy TV shows, loser. Because you are never, ever getting another job in media again!

      3. Mother's Lament (Here's your attention, Sarc. Enjoy)   1 year ago

        It's not fake, you fifty-centing fuck, and you clowns stole social security years ago.
        Who do you actually imagine you're tricking here?

        1. Tony   1 year ago

          If we stole it, then surely people aren’t getting payments.

          1. Truthfulness   1 year ago

            No duh. People can't receive what's been stolen by someone else. Yet you are perfectly okay with that.

            Sorry you're crying over DOGE exposing lots of corruption on your side.

            1. Tony   1 year ago

              But people are still getting payments and will continue to do so until Republicans cut you off as promised.

          2. Mother's Lament (Here's your attention, Sarc. Enjoy)   1 year ago

            Exactly.

            So you do get it.

      4. Incunabulum   1 year ago

        You are crying over politicians that name bills so they'll form stupid acronyms.

        Pot meet kettle.

      5. Don’t get eliminated (all the sudden I have no idea where I am on the list)   1 year ago

        Haha, keep seething fuckface!

    2. Stuck in California   1 year ago

      Sullem is neither being myopic nor trying to stop momentum. Sullem is basically trolling the commentariat so that people will go to the comment section.

      I am convinced of this. Bereft of any ideas, of anything unique or germane to the discussion at hand, he simply posts rage bait. Clicks are clicks, and he probably gets paid by the column inch, so he collects a check and gets "engagement".

      I can't fathom any other reason for how he's still here.

      1. DesigNate   1 year ago

        He definitely drives clicks. Nobody gets the commentariat to rage post quite like him. Maybe a Fiona piece on immigration.

        KMW decided years ago to go the Gawker route, that’s why so many of the headlines are rage bait.

        1. Wizzle Bizzle   1 year ago

          Yeah, I'm torn on clicking anything he writes. He is so obviously A) not a libertarian in any way and B) living off of "outrageous" clickbait crafted to generate comments.

          I'm not surprised he's not above that. I am surprised whoever is in charge at Reason thinks this is good for their brand. Though I guess rock bottom leaves nowhere left to go.

        2. BigT   1 year ago

          I've been saying this for quite a while. KMW is all about the clicks that allow her to charge more for advertising. That's why we get so many outrageous articles.

      2. Gaear Grimsrud   1 year ago

        JS;dr. Straight to the comments.

    3. JesseAz (mean girl ambassador)   1 year ago

      It is funny watching reason pivot to this narrative that nothing can be done without Congress after watching JS and Boehm blame Trump for covid spending. Now they are saying spending is solely the domain of Congress. They even seem to be holding up the impoundment act as good constitutional barriers now.

      The most effective part about DOGE is bringing sunlight as the disinfectant. They have people like Rogan constantly talking about how Congress is forcing the spending, democrats refusing to cut nonsense spending, etc. Trumps numbers are going up, Americans at 70% are supporting the actions. This will force Congress to act.

      Most importantly they just announced investigations into NGOs to see what politicians and federal workers are being paid by these NGOs. Such as looking at how Susan Powers gained 20M off 180k salary in 3 years.

      If doge just exposes and shines light on the corruption, it has done far more than any president prior in exposing the graft.

      It is weird reason is ignoring this exposure and instead defending spending while demanding process.

      1. Commenter_XY   1 year ago

        The NGO thing is huge.

        1. Don’t get eliminated (all the sudden I have no idea where I am on the list)   1 year ago

          It’s the real reason for the freakout. They don’t realize how obvious they’re being.

      2. Social Justice is neither   1 year ago

        Running interference for Marxists is modern Reason.

    4. Chipper Chunked Chile Con Congress (ex NCW)   1 year ago

      JS;DR

      1. But SkyNet is a Private Company   1 year ago

        This is only answer, other than GFY JS

    5. VULGAR MADMAN   1 year ago

      The leftist shits will always defend their masters.

    6. KAW   1 year ago

      https://foreignpolicy.com/2025/02/11/doge-cyberattack-united-states-treasury/

  2. Tony   1 year ago

    That fat lesbian is too stupid to understand this, but apart from the willy-nilly and cruel cuts to government programs that help people not be dead or starving, cutting programs doesn’t automatically cut your taxes. They are kind of a separate ledger and happen in different statues. Hence the debt you are always so supposedly concerned about.

    Is Emperor goth teen gonna cut my taxes via brain fart too?

    1. SQRLSY   1 year ago

      "They are kind of a separate ledger and happen in different statues." Yes!

      One set of laws for spend-spend-spend, and another set for tax-tax-tax.

      I can't recall for sure, but some unknown number of years ago there was a movement to tie together the two. New spending? How ya gonna pay for it? Spell it out before passing laws for new spending. Good idea; what became of it?

      Why aren't the Big-Wigs reading our comments here and following our BRILLIANT suggestions to FIX shit?!?!?

      HA HA HA, HE HE HE!!! (Could tit be because most of the cumments here are hollowed-out brain-dead school-yard insults?)

      1. Tony   1 year ago

        Since the US federal government prints its own money, any correlation between outlays and taxes is a frivolous fiction. It’s always been served up by evil Republican assholes as an excuse to cut programs you would shit your pants over if they were taken away from you. The hilarious thing is how unsuccessful this propaganda has been considering how much, to paraphrase the documentary Idiocracy, people like money.

        Understanding this is liberating because we can discuss which programs are good or unnecessary, and on another day we can discuss which taxes are good or unnecessary. Why are the taxes there at all? To make people like Elon Musk less rich so they don’t do the shit Elon Musk is doing, in theory.

        1. SQRLSY   1 year ago

          Firing up the money-printers to cover spending causes rapid inflation. Inflation is just another tax that steals value from the people. In the case of inflation, it selects for special punishment, those sober-minded people who have worked hard and saved money. Now they have to store value in gasoline or salt or canned foods or who knows what, and that is a HUGE hassle!

          (Well OK there's gold and other precious metals, but mining them trashes the environment, and so does bitcoin, in a different way. And in both of these cases, Government Almighty can just come in and steal them from you. What scares me the most about Trumpism, is that Government Almighty will actually become MORE Almighty by decoupling itself from democracy, from honest vote-counting. ALL votes not for MEEEE are fraudulent!!!)

          1. Tony   1 year ago

            Meh. Runaway inflation is always caused by some exigent thing like crushing debt obligations on Weimar Germany or whatever. Obviously having a central bank with the power to control the money supply means these things can be tamed.

            That geezer with dementia certainly managed to oversee a stuck landing on what everyone thought would be an inflationary catastrophe (that was only to a very small degree caused by printing money). How lovely that the fact that a few goods were still expensive led to a fascist takeover. At least Germany actually suffered first.

            1. Incunabulum   1 year ago

              Folks, looks like Tony is actually Richard Murphy.

              A guy so crazy not even Corbyn listens to him any more.

              1. Mother's Lament (Here's your attention, Sarc. Enjoy)   1 year ago

                When you're even too prog for Sqrlsy...

                1. InsaneTrollLogic (On The List!)   1 year ago

                  I never thought I'd ever be rooting for Sqrlsy over Tony.

                  /If you've muted either, check out the exchange.

    2. Incunabulum   1 year ago

      Now you're body shaming?

    3. Don’t get eliminated (all the sudden I have no idea where I am on the list)   1 year ago

      I’d say I’m sorry this is happening to you, but I’d be lying.

  3. AT   1 year ago

    I really don't understand why you hate autistic africans so much, Sullum. I never pegged you for a racist, or someone who hates the differently-abled.

    You should be ashamed of yourself.

    1. VULGAR MADMAN   1 year ago

      He’s angry he’s not getting his USAID money.

      1. Mother's Lament (Here's your attention, Sarc. Enjoy)   1 year ago

        You know, that's really the only thing that explains an article like this being published by Reason.

        1. Don’t get eliminated (all the sudden I have no idea where I am on the list)   1 year ago

          Every day I wake up hoping today’s the day I see Sullum or Reason on a list.

  4. IceTrey   1 year ago

    Downsizing government is simple, pass an amendment prohibiting government coercion and most of it is unconstitutional.

    1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   1 year ago

      And I'm sure you'd like a pony.

  5. Vernon Depner   1 year ago

    JS;dr

    1. Spiritus Mundi   1 year ago

      JS, putting the Reeee is Reeeeeason.

      1. Wizzle Bizzle   1 year ago

        LOL

  6. Brightly   1 year ago

    From what I gather, the funds they are cutting were allocated by Congress on a discretionary basis. This means that no, they don't have to be spent on spreading the word on gender reassignment pamphlets in Paraguay. It really doesn't have to be spent at all.

    Therefore, there is no "there" there with this. Waste and largess is being dialed back in the dense federal bureaus. Why do Libertarians have such a hard time with getting something they want? It's like you are all happier when nothing is going your way!

    1. Tony   1 year ago

      Maybe because it’s done by dictatorial fiat.

      1. Mickey Rat   1 year ago

        Which Presidential powers were put in place largely through the machinations of Wilson, FDR and their ilk.

        1. Tony   1 year ago

          Whom you presumably admire now that you’re a monarchist.

          1. Truthfulness   1 year ago

            No, it's called constitutional powers. You reap what you sow.

            1. Tony   1 year ago

              Where is that in the constitution?

              My favorite quality of MAGA pitstains is how they hate some things so much they are duty-bound to do the exact same things, except 1,000 times worse.

              It’s almost like you have child brains.

      2. JesseAz (mean girl ambassador)   1 year ago

        The spending authorization literally leaves discretion to the executive to determine US interests dumbfuck.

        Please cite the spending bill requiring funding of trans operas.

        1. Tony   1 year ago

          Your inability to parse reliable sources or be even remotely intelligent or curious or anything but a butt slave of fascist propaganda has affected me for much of my adult life now.

          Explain why you deserve forgiveness.

          1. Mickey Rat   1 year ago

            I am glad you agree that Wilson, Roosevelt. Obama and Biden were acting as autocrats.

            1. Tony   1 year ago

              So autocratic presidents are bad? Or?

          2. JesseAz (mean girl ambassador)   1 year ago

            Show me the law or appropriation requiring trans operas Tony.

            1. Tony   1 year ago

              Show me when you were forced to go to a trans opera. Government pays for a whole shit ton of shit I don’t like. Do I get to take a moron and cut it without Congress because I’m special too?

          3. Jefferson Paul   1 year ago

            You've always come across as stupid in these comments sections, but now you're also coming across as just a dick. Was it Trump winning an EC landslide, or just winning the popular vote, that has you all butthurt?

            1. Tony   1 year ago

              It’s the death, misery, and destruction he’s causing, except to people whose brains are fried on his cult worship, but they’ll feel it soon enough. They couldn’t even handle minor hygiene measures during a pandemic after all.

              I’m not above schadenfreude but I just wish you people could stop killing and hurting and impoverishing everyone with stupidity. That’s all.

              1. DesigNate   1 year ago

                What death and destruction? I’ll give you misery because you leftist are even more miserable than you were on election night.

      3. Mother's Lament (Here's your attention, Sarc. Enjoy)   1 year ago

        So was USAID, Tony Baloney. It was created by EO.

        So your saying it's somehow not dictatorial to create a graft-machine by fiat, but it is to stop it. Am I getting that right?

        1. Tony   1 year ago

          This is what I love about libertarians. Not even fucking MAGA Trump cum dumpsters are as supportive of minimum human freedom or maximum authoritarianism.

          1. Mother's Lament (Here's your attention, Sarc. Enjoy)   1 year ago

            There's zero authoritarian about taking power and money AWAY from the government. You're lies don't work anymore, shill, they're too far fetched.

            1. DesigNate   1 year ago

              TBF, they never worked except on morons like shrike.

        2. MollyGodiva   1 year ago

          USAID is mandated by federal law.

          1. Incunabulum   1 year ago

            Which specific line items are mandated by federal law?

            1. MollyGodiva   1 year ago

              Does not matter. Musk shut down all of USAID.

              1. InsaneTrollLogic (On The List!)   1 year ago

                Musk did not shut it down. USAID was moved by Trump (the President) into the State Department where it should've been in the first place, dipshit.

                1. Mother's Lament (Here's your attention, Sarc. Enjoy)   1 year ago

                  He knows. He's lying.
                  Too bad this isn't Huffington Post or it might work.

                2. MollyGodiva   1 year ago

                  Not legal. Federal law says where USAID is located in the Executive Branch.
                  Why is it so damn hard to get MAGAs to understand that the president does not have any authority to violate federal law.

                  1. Truthfulness   1 year ago

                    The State Department IS part of the Executive Branch. The Secretary of State leads it, which is selected by the President. No violations were made.

                    How can you be this stupid? Lose the dishonesty.

                    1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   1 year ago

                      Combination of being a slimy pile of lefty shit and a raging case of TDS.

                    2. MollyGodiva   1 year ago

                      Federal law does not put USAID in the State Department. Thus it can not be moved their at whim.

                    3. Square = Circle   1 year ago

                      Federal law does not put USAID in the State Department

                      It exactly does, actually:

                      USAID was established in 1961 by President John F. Kennedy to unite several existing foreign assistance organizations and programs under one agency. Statute law places USAID under "the direct authority and policy guidance of the Secretary of State".

                    4. InsaneTrollLogic (On The List!)   1 year ago

                      MollyGodiva
                      Federal law does not put USAID in the State Department. Thus it can not be moved their at whim.

                      Name the part of Article II or section of federal code or STFU.

                    5. MollyGodiva   1 year ago

                      22 U.S. Code § 6563

                    6. Pear Satirical (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   1 year ago

                      Molly wishes he was being pegged by daddy Joe Biden or mommy Kamala Harris, like all statist bitches, so go easy on the retard.

                  2. JesseAz (mean girl ambassador)   1 year ago

                    State is under the executive branch you fucking retard.

              2. Incunabulum   1 year ago

                No, he did not.

                If that was what you were worried about, you can stop. USAID is still funding its core *statutory* functions.

          2. InsaneTrollLogic (On The List!)   1 year ago

            Where? USAID was created by executive order. You've been told this many, many times, retard.

      4. Brandybuck   1 year ago

        > Maybe because it’s done by dictatorial fiat.

        Precisely. Governance via a flurry of executive orders is nonsense. It's what Biden did. And Biden learned it from Trump, who learned it from Obama before him. But each administration it just gets worse. Trump is not immortal, the KulturWar Right will not always be in charge. So what happens with the next progressive Democrat president? Answer, all these executive orders will be reversed and even more abuses of power will occur.

        Governance via dictat is wrong. The power of the executive branch needs to be reined in. Period.

        1. Truthfulness   1 year ago

          Read the replies to Tony. There's no dictatorship in this.

        2. DesigNate   1 year ago

          The existence of USAID (along with many, many more agencies) is flatly unconstitutional. Frankly, every president who hasn’t attempted to shut these motherfuckers down has been derelict in their duties and oath of office.

      5. Incunabulum   1 year ago

        So its bad when the elected guy dictates it - but its ok when the unelected guy dictates it?

        Like you're complaining that the *elected* head of the executive is setting priorities because you think the *unelected* heads-of-agency should be able to do what they want.

        But *Trump* is the dictator?

        Also, people like you have told me for decades that 'if you don't like it, you can vote for something different'. So we voted for something different. Now you're telling me that the votes don't matter.

        If the ballot box doesn't matter, the next box is the one with ammo.

    2. RedPilledConservative   1 year ago

      They're getting what they wanted - good and hard, but they don't like the fcker doing the fcking!

  7. Mickey Rat   1 year ago

    Ah, another article from Jacob "Let the Perfect be the Enemy of the Good" Sullum, at least if the good is Republican.

    "...tackling that problem is impossible without addressing the main components of the federal budget, including Social Security, Medicare, and military spending."

    Yes, and that is not going to happen until absolutely required because it is exceedingly unpopular with the least apathetic cohort of voters, who feel absolutely entitled to that federal money because they bought into the New Deal's and Great Society's lies.

    "The Trump administration's controversial attempt to dismantle the U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID) epitomizes both problems. While foreign aid is a perennially appealing target for conservatives, the entire USAID budget accounts for less than 1 percent of federal spending, and the agency cannot be legally abolished without congressional approval."

    Yes, it is only 1%, but it is also doing things that it should not, pushing ideologies that most Americans do not believe in, and seems to be a source of extensive graft for the Democrat Party's minions. Hear how Leviathan howls at its exposure. This is good work by DOGE.

    1. JFree   1 year ago

      It may be doing things that it shouldn't be doing. But it will continue to do all those things - regime change, counterinsurgency, subversion, and suppressing reform all under the label of "foreign aid". Now from inside the State Department rather than as an independent agency. So a bit fewer spooks and mercenaries and a bit more foggy bottom. Until they decide that diplomatic blowback means it's better off independent again.

      By which point Magaheads will have concluded their victory parade and will be off celebrating new victories more favorable to press/partisan coverage. As that - attention - is more important than the actual hard work of reform or cutting spending

      1. JesseAz (mean girl ambassador)   1 year ago

        Jew hating libertarians think the executive doesn't run executive departments is my new favorite thing here. Lol.

        God damn you're fucking dumb.

        There is no such thing as an independent executive agency. You're asking to put unelected bureaucracy above the voters and not accountable to them.

        Fuck off statist.

      2. Mother's Lament (Here's your attention, Sarc. Enjoy)   1 year ago

        "Until they decide that diplomatic blowback means it's better off independent again."

        Have you guy's noticed that most of our swamp "libertarians" arguments rely on weird predictions for what might eventually happen in the future?

        1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   1 year ago

          Yeah, what if Trump does X?!!!!!!!!

    2. RedPilledConservative   1 year ago

      Yes, it's been a whole of 3 weeks Sullum - defense, Medicaid, and Medicare are coming under the DOGE microscope as well!

  8. Adans smith   1 year ago

    Does he know that USAID was created by JFK by executive order?

    1. Tony   1 year ago

      it was established by statute later but I suspect that’s not the only lie you believe. That doesn’t of course address whether it’s a good program or not.

      What about all the other congressionally created agencies he’s dismantling by unelected fiat?

      1. Incunabulum   1 year ago

        He's not dismantling them though.

        He is cutting them back to their statutorily authorized missions. Why are you against obeying the law?

      2. Don’t get eliminated (all the sudden I have no idea where I am on the list)   1 year ago

        Hahahaha! Man this has you so angry.

        1. Mother's Lament (Here's your attention, Sarc. Enjoy)   1 year ago

          It's personal. The NGO that pays him and Jeffy to fifty-cent just lost all their federal USAID funding.

        2. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   1 year ago

          Pissing off lefty slimebags like Tony is just an added benefit.

        3. DesigNate   1 year ago

          Tony’s always been an angry little leftist.

      3. RedPilledConservative   1 year ago

        Reduce does not equal disband or to make no longer exist. Those Defending the status quo in the face of future crushing debt reveals much about the motives of those squealing the loudest!!

  9. mad.casual   1 year ago

    Donald Trump's much-ballyhooed Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) does not actually exist.

    LOL. More of an idea, really. An actually mostly peaceful idea.

    If you tards hadn't cost so much money, destroyed so much stuff, sacrificed so many lives, you might've actually been entertaining. Fortunately for you, you were born in an era, and faction, of human history where you could be tolerated rather than just summarily executed for your misanthropic stupidity.

    1. Don’t get eliminated (all the sudden I have no idea where I am on the list)   1 year ago

      The saddest thing about this is that it does actually exist. He just renamed an existing agency created under Obama. Sullum is either lying or showing what a shitty journalist he is that he keeps writing articles about an executive order that he clearly can’t be bothered to actually read.

      1. Dillinger   1 year ago

        >>Sullum is either lying or showing what a shitty journalist he is

        c. all of the above.

        1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   1 year ago

          Sullum is a steaming pile of TDS-addled shit who needs to fuck off and die. And take the asshole Lancaster with you, Sullum.

  10. VULGAR MADMAN   1 year ago

    JS wouldn’t be running his bitch mouth like this if DOGE wasn’t successful.

    1. MollyGodiva   1 year ago

      DOGE has not been successful. They are going after the low hanging fruit, programs that MAGAs don't like. It's primary purpose seems to be consolidating power for Musk.

      1. VULGAR MADMAN   1 year ago

        Cope harder, faggot,

      2. Don’t get eliminated (all the sudden I have no idea where I am on the list)   1 year ago

        Haha, another retarded lefty post that nobody believes.

      3. Mother's Lament (Here's your attention, Sarc. Enjoy)   1 year ago

        "DOGE has not been successful"

        Lol, if not for any other reason, we know it has been successful because of how a statist grifter like you is raging.

        1. MollyGodiva   1 year ago

          It is scary that MAGAs value making liberals unhappy over having a functional free country. The Musk shit will hit you in the face also.

          1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   1 year ago

            "It is scary that MAGAs value making liberals unhappy over having a functional free country."

            False dichotomy, shitstain.

          2. damikesc   1 year ago

            It's funny seeing you cry because you want a non-functional country run by unaccountable bureaucrats.

            We've had enough.

            1. MollyGodiva   1 year ago

              This country has never been run by unaccountable bureaucrats, they all report to political appointees.

              1. JesseAz (mean girl ambassador)   1 year ago

                Like Trump? Lol. Your activist judges don't think so.

                1. MollyGodiva   1 year ago

                  The entire Executive Branch is requited to follow federal law. How is a judge saying "Follow the law." an activist?

                  1. InsaneTrollLogic (On The List!)   1 year ago

                    The judge from a lower court does not have jurisdiction over the Executive Branch. He/she may settle a lawsuit there, but he/she cannot rule to stop the Executive Branch from carrying out Constitutionally mandated Executive Branch activities.

                    Name the part of Article II, Article III, or relevant federal code or STFU.

              2. Square = Circle   1 year ago

                they all report to political appointees

                Correct. Like Marco Rubio, the Secretary of State.

                Remind me where the problem is?

      4. DesigNate   1 year ago

        Well which is it? If it’s taken out low hanging fruit, it has been successful.

        At the very least it’s been successful at sending leftist like you into a rage spiral.

      5. Bertram Guilfoyle   1 year ago

        If it's been unsuccessful, then why all the hyperventilating?

      6. RedPilledConservative   1 year ago

        You think they are done?? They're just getting started!!

  11. Brandybuck   1 year ago

    Hate to break the news to the GOP members, as well as LP leadership pining for positions in the Trump administration, but one does NOT reduce the size and scope of government by creating new Federal departments, even if they are "fake" departments.

    So much of what the Trump administration is doing is not eliminating government power, but EXERCISING government power in service to a culture war. And increasingly it's the exercise of government power that no prior administration ever claimed to wield.

    Never in our nation's history has so much power been wielded by a single human being. The many people in the GOP as well as LP are just eating it up like free sandwiches. The answer is not more concentration of power, but the reduction and decentralization of power. At all levels of government, from the Federal executive branch to the local city governments.

    1. Incunabulum   1 year ago

      Brandy. Brandy, Brandy, Brandy.

      Trump didn't create DOGE. Obama did. DOGE is an already existing federal agency.

      1. Don’t get eliminated (all the sudden I have no idea where I am on the list)   1 year ago

        They are ignoring this fact so hard it’s embarrassing.

      2. Mother's Lament (Here's your attention, Sarc. Enjoy)   1 year ago

        "yEs, BuT tHeY cHanGeD tHe nAmE"

      3. windycityattorney   1 year ago

        Oh FFS. Do you really think what Obama created would send the "A Fork in the Road" mass email to every govt employee attempting to get them to quit? Freezing all grants? Freezing all hiring? I get it. You want the civil service to fail so by forcing it to fail you prove your thesis: we didn't need a civil service anyway.

        Nobody believes this stupidity. The least of which the Courts which keep handing Trump & DOGE loss after loss.

        Don't worry. The one size fits all approach is going to be affecting the MAGA base. Particularly farmers. Then consumers. Between the mass deportations and the tariff policies... time are likely to be tough. There are even some rumblings that it is by design. To kill off the family farm in favor of huge corporate AG operations. With GOP having Congress and the White House; blaming Biden and the stupid libs is only going to work so long.

        1. JesseAz (mean girl ambassador)   1 year ago

          Was this a legal analysis?

          1. Pepin the short   1 year ago

            She’s not a lawyer. Just an idiot.

        2. Incunabulum   1 year ago

          Yes, I do. Because Obama and his people are all idiots. All the 'elites' are incompetent idiots. THAT'S why we're rebelling against them.

          A hundred years ago the Democrats were just racists. Now they're incompetent racists.

    2. Incunabulum   1 year ago

      >Never in our nation's history has so much power been wielded by a single human being.

      How?

      Secondly, he already had the power - all presidents do - and we voted for him to use it this way. Why do you have democracy all of a sudden?

      1. MollyGodiva   1 year ago

        The core of US democracy is Congress, not the President. And Congress is getting trampled on.

        1. VULGAR MADMAN   1 year ago

          Cry harder.

        2. Don’t get eliminated (all the sudden I have no idea where I am on the list)   1 year ago

          Don’t I wish. I’d pay good money to watch congress get trampled on.

        3. Mother's Lament (Here's your attention, Sarc. Enjoy)   1 year ago

          How is congress "getting trampled on"? Your bosses attempts at delay are pathetic.

        4. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   1 year ago

          "The core of US democracy is Congress, not the President."

          Uh, no, you slimy pile of lefty shit, there are 3 co-equal branches. On purpose, to keep slimy shits like you from taking control.
          Fuck off and die and take that ass-wipe Tony with you.

          1. MollyGodiva   1 year ago

            They three branches are not co-equal. The Constitution gives Congress power over the other two.

            1. Square = Circle   1 year ago

              The Constitution gives Congress power over the other two.

              Cite?

            2. InsaneTrollLogic (On The List!)   1 year ago

              Where in Article I does Congress get supremacy over the other two branches? Name it or STFU.

        5. DesigNate   1 year ago

          1. Not a fucking democracy. And even if we were, that means the mob hates, or is at least apathetic, to you and Tony’s vision.

          2. As Sevo said, the three branches are coequal, so Congress still wouldn’t be “the core”.

          3. Perhaps you Democrat fucks shouldn’t have vested so much power and authority in the Presidency, thinking you would maintain control forever (not that Congress is in any way getting trampled on, seeing as these are all executive branch agencies).

          Thanks for playing FAFO.

          1. MollyGodiva   1 year ago

            Not co-equal. Congress has more power and unique abilities to check the others. Congress can remove members of the Executive branch and Judaical branch.

            1. DesigNate   1 year ago

              Hahahahahahahahahaha

              Thanks for the laugh Molly.

            2. InsaneTrollLogic (On The List!)   1 year ago

              They are given the power of impeachment and removal as a part of checks and balances, but other than that, where does Congress have supremacy over the other two branches?

              Name the part of Article I or STFU.

      2. RedPilledConservative   1 year ago

        Good grief - that's just a lie - the same checks and balances exist to constrain Trump as they did to constrain every other president.

  12. Incunabulum   1 year ago

    Sullum, your friends in the uniparty are fighting the removal of waste and here you are, complaining that Trump isn't able to cut it fast enough.

    1. MollyGodiva   1 year ago

      What one person sees as "waste" another sees as a valuable program. DOGE is going after programs solely due to politics.

      1. InsaneTrollLogic (On The List!)   1 year ago

        So providing "gender affirming surgeries" in the third world is a valuable program?

        1. VULGAR MADMAN   1 year ago

          It is to groomers.

        2. MollyGodiva   1 year ago

          Providing health care, especially AIDS prevention, to third world countries is important. It was championed by GWB and one of the few things I agreed with him on.

          1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   1 year ago

            How many cherries can you pick, slimy pile of lefty shit?

          2. InsaneTrollLogic (On The List!)   1 year ago

            Again, asshole, providing "gender affirming surgeries" in the third world is a valuable program?

            When did that become "health care"?

            1. MollyGodiva   1 year ago

              If USAID did "gender affirming surgeries", it was on a very small scale and part of a small grant. And gender dysphoria is a recognized disorder and gender affirming surgery is one of the effective treatments. Also "gender affirming surgery" is used on non-trans people as well. For example implants after a mastectomy is "gender affirming surgery".

              1. Square = Circle   1 year ago

                gender dysphoria is a recognized disorder

                Gender dysphoria is a disorder again? I thought saying that was racist, or something.

              2. Jefferson Paul   1 year ago

                So you'd be fine with USAID stopping funding for "gender affirming surgery" for trans people? If not, you talking about implants after mastectomies for non-trans people is just a red herring.

                (we shouldn't be funding implants after mastectomies, either, in my opinion)

              3. See.More   1 year ago

                For example implants after a mastectomy is "gender affirming surgery".

                No it's not. It's fucking cosmetic surgery.

          3. Don’t get eliminated (all the sudden I have no idea where I am on the list)   1 year ago

            It’s important to you. It isn’t to me. I’m sure they’ll appreciate your donation.

            You are giving them a donation, right?

          4. See.More   1 year ago

            Providing health care, especially AIDS prevention, to third world countries is important not a constitutionally authorized power of the United States' federal government.

            FIFY

            If you want to send your money to help or spend your time helping to provide health care to third world countries, go right ahead.

      2. Don’t get eliminated (all the sudden I have no idea where I am on the list)   1 year ago

        Yes, we get it. Lefties see money laundering as valuable. My favorite part is all the “ministries” saying they won’t exist without all this government funds.

        Actually no, I take that back. Watching you lefties throwing temper tantrums is my favorite part. Please continue!

      3. Incunabulum   1 year ago

        Here's the thing - over 50% of the country sees these things as waste.

        So they're waste. Democracy in action. You don't oppose the democratic process, do you?

    2. VULGAR MADMAN   1 year ago

      He can’t do the “both sides” thing here. So he has to defend the state.

  13. Use the Schwartz   1 year ago

    hE's NoT dOiNg It RiGhT!

    It has been literally two weeks and a couple of days, maybe refrain from definitives at this time?

    1. MollyGodiva   1 year ago

      No, because we can see where this is going and what Musk's motivations are, which has nothing to do with honestly make government better.

      1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   1 year ago

        MG.
        Is.
        Full.
        Of.
        Shit.
        Fuck off and die, asshole.

      2. Don’t get eliminated (all the sudden I have no idea where I am on the list)   1 year ago

        Nobody else is experiencing your fever dreams.

      3. Azathoth!!   1 year ago

        It's not about 'making government better'.

        It's about making America great by hacking at the bureaucracy with the biggest axe they can manage until it dies.

  14. Truthteller1   1 year ago

    Sullum has resorted to trolling for clicks, he has nothing whatsoever to offer in terms of legitimate opinion.

  15. Dillinger   1 year ago

    >>The pretend department’s downgraded mission

    lol so, so jelly.

  16. MollyGodiva   1 year ago

    I just realized that one of the best ways Musk could have saved the government tens of billions of truly wasted money is to not have anything to do with this administration. That is because the other rocket programs NASA is funding are the normal boondoggles. SpaceX is an overwhelming success. Musk in government makes any effort to cut Boeing Starliner, SLS, and ULA look like self-dealing, despite it being the correct move.

    1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   1 year ago

      MG.
      Is.
      Full.
      Of.
      Shit.
      Fuck off and die, asswipe.

    2. Mother's Lament (Here's your attention, Sarc. Enjoy)   1 year ago

      Boeing is about to kill Starliner themselves. They've made their money and now it's starting to cost them too. Expect the announcement within a month.

  17. Mother's Lament (Here's your attention, Sarc. Enjoy)   1 year ago

    The Tony/Molly sock, hardest hit:

    BREAKING: DOGE is looking into federal workers who have a high net worth despite having a low salary, according to Elon Musk.

    "We find it sort of rather odd that there are quite a few people in the bureaucracy who who have a salary of a few hundred thousand dollars, but somehow manage to accrue tens of millions of dollars in net worth."

    "We're just curious as to where it came from..."

    1. MollyGodiva   1 year ago

      The upper limit for GS-15 is about $185k.

      But more importantly how do they know the net worth of the government employees. The government should not have access to that information absent a warrant.

      1. Incunabulum   1 year ago

        1. Have to declare conflicts of interest as part of employment.

        2. The pay scale is, literally, public information.

        3. What warrant was needed for Trump's tax return?

      2. Mother's Lament (Here's your attention, Sarc. Enjoy)   1 year ago

        "The government should not have access to that information absent a warrant."

        Have you ever heard of the IRS, fifty-center?

      3. DesigNate   1 year ago

        You didn’t think that was relevant when you were demanding Trump or any of his appointees, tax returns.

        Get fucked.

      4. Lester75   1 year ago

        Musk's teenagers now have permission to hack the IRS. Sounds good until they go after you.

  18. sarcasmic   1 year ago

    Separation of powers is leftist. True patriots understand that Trump an do whatever he wants.

    1. DesigNate   1 year ago

      Where is he violating Separation of Powers? Legit curious as to your reasoning because as far as I’ve seen, they haven’t gone after agencies that are part of the Legislative and Judicial branches.

    2. Don’t get eliminated (all the sudden I have no idea where I am on the list)   1 year ago

      Poor sarc.

  19. shadydave   1 year ago

    js;dr

  20. Liberty Yeti   1 year ago

    Article summary:

    Allegedly 'Libertarian' rag shills for blatantly unconstitutional government agency that wastes $50 billion of our money abroad and on using our own media companies as government propaganda outlets."

    If Plessy was wrong, if Dred Scott was wrong, then all of FDR's hacakrama "everything is interstate commerce" bullshit can be overturned as well.

    I say let Trumpelonstein crush the whole damn thing.

    And for the concern troll whining about Social Security -- I'm late Gen X, I wasn't expecting much of anything out of Social Security in the first place, since waaaaaaaay before Trump and Elon showed up on the scene. It will either be gone, means-tested, and/or worthless inflated fiat by the time I retire. And that's only if I ever even *get* to retire, thanks to Xidenflation.

    The *only* alternative Social Security scenario is if *Democrats* (that is who proposed it) seize all retirement accounts. They have been trying to argue that all money belongs to the government and thus they can take away your money any time they want without due process. That's LITERALLY a court case right now.

    So what should I care if Orange Man and Aspergers Man color outside the lines a little bit when the opposition are evil, oppressive, totalitarian SCUM?

  21. Uncle Jay   1 year ago

    "he pretend department’s downgraded mission reflects the gap between Trump’s promise of "smaller government" and the reality of what can be achieved without new legislation."

    As usual, Sullum gets it wrong.
    DOGE was started to expose waste and fraud in federal government spending.
    It would be left to Congress to decide whether or not to keep unnecessary, expensive and useless bureaucracies and eliminate waste and fraud in spending.
    But of course, we all know Congress would rather have the US become a Stalinist slave state than eliminate these wasteful bureaucracies.

  22. StevenF   1 year ago

    The author of this article is a propagandist.
    The article itself is pure falsehood.

  23. Knutsack   1 year ago

    Meanwhile, roughly 77,000 workers have availed themselves of the buyouts offered to them.

    1. Knutsack   1 year ago

      Meanwhile, roughly 77,000 workers have availed themselves of the buyouts offered to them.

  24. RedPilledConservative   1 year ago

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