Trump's North American Trade War Accomplished Nothing
Canada and Mexico agreed to keep doing things they were already doing, and Trump revealed that he cannot be trusted with unilateral tariff power.

Asked by reporters on Saturday afternoon if there was anything that Canada and Mexico could do to avoid the 25 percent tariffs the White House was threatening to impose on their exports to the United States, President Donald Trump delivered a clear response.
"Nothing."
That wasn't true, as it turns out. Those tariffs are now on hold—for 30 days, at least—after the leaders of Canada and Mexico reached deals with the Trump administration on Monday. In both cases, those "deals" include promises by both foreign governments to deploy more troops to their border and to have further discussions with the Trump administration about border security and curtailing drug smuggling.
In each case, it seems like the other countries have simply agreed to the status quo. Trump's deal with Mexico includes a promise from President Claudia Sheinbaum to deploy 10,000 troops to the border—even though Mexico already deployed nearly twice that number to the border in 2019. The deal with Canada similarly includes a promise of 10,000 troops and $1.3 billion in new border-security spending, which is exactly what the Canadian government said in December it planned to do.
Trump tore up the North American trade deal that he'd signed (and praised as the "best agreement we've ever made") just five years ago. He sent the stock market tumbling, forced the American automotive industry and other manufacturers to beg for mercy, and antagonized two of America's biggest trading partners and allies. And after all that, he got virtually nothing in return.
Indeed, Canada's and Mexico's governments may have gotten more. Their leaders learned that Trump sees 10,000 as a big and significant number and that they can appease his tariff fever by promising to just keep doing what they already do—as long as they make it sound like he's convinced them to change course.
"Trump did not extract anything new from Mexico with his threat of tariffs," writes Dominic Pino at National Review. "This episode does not illustrate that tariffs are good or that Trump is a fearsome negotiator. It illustrates that Trump is a cheap date."
It is telling that even ardent defenders of tariffs, and Trump's use them, were somewhat baffled by the whole thing. Oren Cass, the founder of American Compass and a leading figure within the nationalist conservative movement, in a post largely defending Trump's maneuvers, admitted that a key piece of the puzzle was missing.
"If the goal is to change behavior, the policymaker has an obligation to communicate demands clearly," Cass wrote, adding that Trump's demands of Canada were "unclear at best."
That's putting it kindly. Again, when Trump was asked directly by reporters on Saturday if there was anything Canada could do to avoid the tariffs, he said "nothing." In various social media posts, Trump claimed first that the tariffs were intended to stop fentanyl from coming across the border And then, a day later, said they were meant to compel Canada to join the United States. Vice President J.D. Vance tried his hand at putting some random meats on this tangle of bones Sunday night, writing on X that Canada wasn't keeping up with its NATO obligations.
(Those NATO obligations weren't even part of the deal that Trump and Trudeau struck on Monday, it's worth pointing out. Good try, J.D., better luck next time.)
Still, Cass argues that Trump was on the right track. "Think of a negotiating tariff like an embargo," adds Cass, "an economic tool of statecraft used to advance foreign policy aims. Evaluate it on that basis."
It is admittedly difficult, however, to evaluate these actions on that basis because the United States (like most nations) generally does not go around threatening to embargo its close allies and major trading partners. Indeed, that parallel is helpful in illustrating just how bizarre this whole incident was. Here's a comprehensive list of countries against which the U.S. has universal embargoes: Cuba, Iran, North Korea, Russia, and Syria. That's it. That's the whole list.
Cass would have you believe that it's perfectly acceptable for the president to treat Canada as if it belonged in that group—and to do so without congressional consent and without even clearly expressing why he felt Canada deserved such treatment or what the Canadian government could do to fix the situation. And that is the assessment of someone who is defending Trump's actions!
Any impartial measure of this whole incident must come down hard against Trump. The leaders of Mexico and Canada effectively called the president's bluff that there was nothing they could do to avoid tariffs. Facing the reality that tariffs would cause serious pain for American businesses—something that he even admitted last weekend (maybe he's learning?)—Trump retreated, leaving the United States–Mexico–Canada Agreement in tatters and the relationship between America and two of its key allies strained.
We should be glad that Trump safely found an off-ramp after steering the United States recklessly into a potentially ugly situation, and we can hope that he did not cause too much long-term damage while getting there.
But the most important lesson here is one Congress should have already learned: It's time to take away the keys—that is, rescind the president's unilateral power over trade. Next time, the result might be worse.
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^^ clearly plants seeds too early.
HA HA HA HA HA
My favorite part - The “status quo” = something the Mexicans did 6 years ago, but stopped doing 5 years ago
Canada and Mexico agreed to keep doing things they were already doing, and Trump revealed that he cannot be trusted with unilateral tariff power.
So nothing happened, but we should still panic?
The "nothing that happened" is that investors... Not just rich people... Lost money and faith in the stock markets, and everyone with common sense, and foreign nations that are supposed to be our friends, also all lost faith in the USA. Would YOU like to make large and long-term investments in this kind of business environment? Twat happened to "business-friendly" Team R? I for one am putting market investments on a very strict diet!
Explains the addition of 10,000 troops to the border on each border.
Because they were already doing that.
Of course.
Yes, I am VERY glad that you CAN actually read and understand the links and facts provided in the above article! Kudos to you!
Trump got credit this time for doing what was already happening. That's huge. The Maga heads are so impressed that they found a second reason to clap for what he was going to do anyway and for what they were planning to clap.
This is actually much more entertaining than I ever thought it could be.
Yes. I'm enjoying the fact that they are particularly outraged by the libertarian stuff that is happening but they can't say that out loud here.
but somehow the number of illegal crossings dropped dramatically!
LOL
I’m having TShirts made “I survived the ‘25 North American Trade War”
That was an idea I had last night. I was going to list the actual dates thought. 1/31/25-2/3/25.
Got it Eric; nothing happened, and that's a terrible thing because a politician is doing what he promised, and by the way, what Americans who elected him want.
(BTW, you got a weird concept of 'nothing happened')
Giving the voters what they want? How can you endanger democracy like that?
"Democracy" is just too precious and important to be entrusted to that hoi polloi you call "voters."
You'd think we didn't have a bill of rights to ensure that certain fundamental freedoms were never infringed upon by a misguided majority...oh wait, that has to go too.
Cope and seethe, moron
One man's cope and seethe is that same man's strategic and reluctant.
"which is exactly what the Canadian government said in December it planned to do."
Which was after Trump won and said he was going to tariff all over the place. Probably one of the weaker gotchas people are trying to take from Canada folding like a piece of paper.
These articles are so weak; if there was any doubt that Reason is as broken as the rest of media, I think this puts it to rest.
I said as much last week. This website is a shadow of its former self, and about as nakedly partisan as TNR or Vox.
I am acquainted a woman who is a VP at Vox; just recently got burned out of her home from which she previously observed riots burning down her favorite stores in Santa Monica, but I doubt her political views or journalism will be affected in any way.
Which was after Trump won and said he was going to tariff all over the place. Probably one of the weaker gotchas people are trying to take from Canada folding like a piece of paper.
Let me get this straight.
You don't dispute the facts in what you quoted, so follow the logic assuming that was true.
Trump threatens to "tariff all over the place" during the campaign, and he wins in November.
Canada announces 10,000 more troops and border security spending. Which, by your argument, they did because Trump won the election.
Trump follows through with threats on tariffs, unless what? Unless Canada says it will do something it has already said it would do?
And yet, you still think that Trump won something from Canada?
I'm really wondering why someone would issue a new threat to get X from someone, after their first threat had already gotten them X. Trump roiled markets, freaked people out, pissed off Canadians, why? I can only figure that it is because he wanted the gullible among his supporters to have a reason to cheer him winning.
Trump said high tariffs are the path to untold riches. Does this mean we're not going to prosper, or that he's going to implement them anyway? He promised to make us all rich by taxing us more. Then he says it was just a negotiation tool? C'mon! That's not fair!
Everything Is So Terrible And Unfair, sarc.
Haha.
The fact that nobody has actually been tariffed yet is just killing Sarcasmic.
The left takes Trump literally, but not seriously. The right takes Trump seriously, but not literally.
It turns out they're both wrong.
Hey Eric, this is from the link you posted in your article [re posting of Mexican troops on the border in 2019]:
"Former Mexican national security official Gustavo Mohar said Mexico's security forces had not been used this way before, describing the development as "sad."
"Mohar blamed the change on Trump's threats to impose tariffs."
So we know it worked in 2019, and it is working again; but as in 2019 they will immediately withdraw those troops [to control a border over which Mexico seemingly has no control] unless the threat of tariffs remains in place, right?
They agreed to *actually do* the things they agreed to do but weren't actually doing.
And they're on notice that the axe has been sharpened should they continue to not do the things they agreed to do but were not doing.
"They agreed to *actually do* the things they agreed to do but weren't actually doing."
Are ye talking about Trump and His Team Trump and their PROMISES to make Mexico pay for the walls, and now also, to make us all RICH by tariff-taxing the shit out of us all?
So, lesseeee.....
A reporter whose only understanding of trade and economics is Trump bad, Biden good.
A President who thinks the same value can go down (trade deficit) and up (foreign investment) simultaneously merely because he uses different names for them. I think maybe we should call him the Heisenberg President.
Trumpistas who can't bear to admit that their idol is an economic ignoramus.
A President who rails about foreign influence in his country but stakes out his foreign policy on interfering in foreign countries. In particular, his own border cops are so corrupt and incompetent that he has to threaten Canada and Mexico with tariffs in violation of the very treaty he negotiated 5 years ago if they don't use their border cops to do what his border cops can't or won't do.
Trumpistas claim the Canadian cops are competent and not corrupt but it's prosecutors, judges, and politicians who block the police from doing their job. Yet when Canada promises to send 10,000 soldiers to the border, they somehow think that improves matters, I guess because those 10,000 soldiers are really prosecutors, judges, and politicians, not just untrained border cops.
Everyone knows the Mexican police and army are corrupt tools of the drug cartels, yet the Trumpistas brag that sending 10,000 more Mexican soldiers to the border is WINNING.
There's only 2 possibilities here. The trade war is NOT over...
...or...
Trump caved.
Fuck, you think anyone actually buys that gaslighting?
Sure, it's still affordable without tariffs.
La Presidenta rolled Trump.
I suspect that Musk called Trump after he lost 16 billion dollars in 40 minutes as Tesla's stock crashed the day before the tariffs were to go into effect. La Presidenta gave up nothing but got Trump to agree to stop Americans from taking guns to Mexico. The Second Amendment crowd hasn't even figured out that Trump threw them under the bus. But this is all a good outcome for the US and for Mexico.
Everyone knows the Mexican police and army are corrupt tools of the drug cartels, yet the Trumpistas brag that sending 10,000 more Mexican soldiers to the border is WINNING
They either enforce the border, or we have war.
There is no loss here.
Right, like that's ever possible.
There's no win there either. Both borders just got big nothing burgers. The only result is face-saving press releases.
There's no win there either.
Hard disagree.
Conquering the cartels is 100% a victory.
Drug abuse is rampant in prisons right now in the USA. Ye PervFectly lust after turning the USA, and North America, and the galaxy at large, into ONE giant prison (MORE than shit is already, I mean), in the VAIN hope of eliminating drug abuse?
You don't go to war with a country that has 40 million of its nationals living within your borders and sells you oil that you need.
Also, SpaceX is right on the border. It could be completely destroyed minutes after the war begins. President Musk won't allow that.
Brother - we've already acknowledged that Trump is an economic ignoramus.
You keep going back to that well because . . . you got nothing else.
As tools of foreign policy the tariffs worked.
Tariffs as economic policy are clearly dumb.
Threatened tariffs as bargaining chips seem to be working, to some extent.
Working, how? Got a bunch of nothing burgers to save face. Moving more Mexican troops to cartel country just means more corruption. Moving Canadian troops to the Canadian border solves what?
All it really did was roil business plans and give a lot of PR flacks more opportunities to impress the public.
Cry harder bitch. And move those goal posts. Keep moving those goal posts.
Moving goal posts? Where are the "we're going to tariff tax others to make us rich, remove income tax and restore American jobs" goal posts?
Trump's goal posts have never moved: To increase his own power and wealth.
Poor Eric.
Boehm is a blithering idiot, a TDS regime guppy. There was no trade war, Trump threatened tariffs and the targets folded. This is how it is supposed to work.
OT: Anybody have any ideas why Eugene Vindman, the brother of the lame guy who leaked the call to get Trump's first pointless impeachment started, was trying to get into the USAID offices? He did not work for them and had no reason to be there.
So why WAS he trying to get in?
They "...did not work for them and had no reason to be there" sounds like an EXCELLENT description of Trumpanzees gone apeshit, destroying pubic property and invading congressional orifices! Maybe Eugene Vindman was trying to obtain Trump's blessings, just ass Trump blessed even the very most violent offenders among the Trumpanzees gone apeshit!!!
I sure hope that Eugene Vindman was displaying a "Hang Mike Pence" sign, and chanting the same, so ass to obtain Trump's blessings!!!
I can't even imagine how dirty an outfit (and their associated NGOs) like that must be.
Looking for the remaining pipe bombs?
Making sure the properly cooked books were the only ones left?
Bringing on a cloth to wipe the servers?
Who knows?
I Long to be free of scandals about stolen erections, Spermy Daniels, invading hordes of barbarian Trumpanzees, "Hang Mike Pence", "Execute General Milley", Big Beautiful Walls (SNOT!) paid for by Mexico, vast wealth via tariff-taxes, and all udder Trumpist nonsense!
When, Oh Great Government Almighty, WHEN shall we be set free?
He is a House Representative from Virginia
Didn’t answer the question.
Unfortunately I'm stuck being represented by him. Got spam from him this morning and blocked him. He represents the federal government assholes invading our agricultural and manufacturing counties.
He did not work for USAID. Had zero reason to be there.
So...why was he there?
Also, given the Santos precedent, why has Warnock not been tossed out of the Senate yet?
Trump is an idiot. Nothing new. But his is making libs unhappy so nothing else matters.
HA HA HA
Yes, making the liberals cry IS the end-all and the be-all!!! Any day now, shit just MIGHT end us all, indeed!
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Slight sub-topic change; too much fighting is way too stupid, and we need BALANCE! Consider the below:
For all ideological hard-core warmongers everywhere…
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“R” team likes to demonize “D” team? Biden is going to outlaw the internal combustion engine, tomorrow, to “Make American Green Again”? The NEW MAGA? Bullshit, demonizers!
“D” team likes to say that the next “R” POTUS (Alex Jones maybe?) will outlaw ALL abortion, and birth control? And turn ALL women into enslaved baby-making machines, because every sperm is sacred? Bullshit, demonizers!
All is for The Hive… The Tribe-Nation… Or, All is for the Individual, and you may NOT (of your own supposed “free will”) join a VOLUNTARY commune?! There can be NO compromise, traitors!!!
The males must UTTERLY DEFEAT the females, who must NEVER speak again!
Yin must smash Yang, till Yang exists no more!
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This is getting hilarious.
The [D]-trifecta that put-into-place the Executive Tariff power has had 100 YEARS to UNDO the damage they did. How's it always Republicans fault (responsibility) to clean-up the lefts BS?
How biased does a person have to be to pretend another [D]-trifecta wouldn't just re-instate its UN-Constitutional behavior. Is there anything Democrats do that isn't UN-Constitutional?
Canada and Mexico agreed to keep doing things they were already doing,
FLAT OUT LIE. The question is do you know it is a lie, or would calling you a moron insult the intelligence of morons.
Cite? Or... Just because StevenF says so?
TotalShitarians and AuthorShitarians are a dime a dozen, ya know... Twat else ya got?
This is peak Eric.
Any impartial measure of this whole incident must come down hard against Trump. The leaders of Mexico and Canada effectively called the president's bluff that there was nothing they could do to avoid tariffs. Facing the reality that tariffs would cause serious pain for American businesses—something that he even admitted last weekend (maybe he's learning?)—Trump retreated, leaving the United States–Mexico–Canada Agreement in tatters and the relationship between America and two of its key allies strained.
I imagine it's hard to type when you've got both your index fingers in their respective ears screaming, "LALALALALALALALA I CAN'T HEAR YOU TRUMP IS DUMB LOL!"
Libertarians on here suffer from Shortened Causal Chain Syndrome. Get rid of 100 000 illegals and the hoursing market benefits immediately. And who are the chief supporters on both sides...
Renters are Democrats
Home Owners are not
Renters make up a much larger share of households in California (44%) than in the rest of the US (35%)—or in any state other than New York (46%), according to the US Census.
In 2023, the homeownership rate in Florida was 67.3%, which is about 2 in 3 households.
SEE IT YET ??? TWICE THE RATE IN THE WORST STATES>
Hoursing markets are SNOT horsing around, here, any mare!!!
That's twat ye are saying, right?
Yes, a "threat" to put tariffs on Canada and Mexico, that never even got implemented, and the "threat" hung in the air for all of two weeks - is officially a trade war! lol!! Good grief you snowflakes are really something.
A border dispute occurred when North Korean troops looked sternly across the border at South Korean troops!
Eric Boehm - an idiot with no sense of proportion or reality! Good grief the TDS is strong with this one!