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DOGE

DOGE's Big Challenge: Americans Who Hate Inefficiency but Love Bloated Government

The public worries about corruption and bureaucracy, but many want more of the same.

J.D. Tuccille | 1.31.2025 7:00 AM

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The new Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) is off to a quick start, if we consider the advisory board's claimed savings in federal spending and the voluntary buyout of workers that could reduce the ranks of federal employees with a minimum of drama. But while the public agrees that corruption, inefficiency, and red tape are serious problems for the government, DOGE itself enjoys mixed popularity and majorities believe the government spends too little on big-ticket items, leaving little room for savings. The American people themselves are a big obstacle to paring the federal government to size.

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DOGE Off to a Good Start

"DOGE is saving the Federal Government approx. $1 billion/day, mostly from stopping the hiring of people into unnecessary positions, deletion of DEI and stopping improper payments to foreign organizations, all consistent with the President's Executive Orders," the DOGE X feed boasted this week. "A good start, though this number needs to increase to > $3 billion/day."

The Trump administration also sent a letter to the majority of the federal government's roughly three million workers, offering a "deferred resignation" plan. Those who accept the deal could stop working for the government as of February 6 and still be paid through September of this year. The administration expects up to 10 percent of workers to take the offer. The voluntary nature of the plan blunts inevitable complaints from unions about "purging the federal government of dedicated career civil servants."

We will have to see what the results will be in the coming months and years. But if that works out, it's a pretty good launch for an administration and its advisory board that are less than two weeks old. Unfortunately, Americans aren't sure where they stand on all this.

The Public Frets About Corruption, Inefficiency, and Red Tape…

According to AP-NORC polling, majorities believe that corruption (70 percent) , inefficiency (65 percent), and red tape such as regulations and bureaucracy (59 percent) are "major problems within the federal government." These findings square with the results of other surveys revealing that "nearly 2/3 of Americans fear that our government is run by corrupt officials" (Babbie Centre at Chapman University, Spring 2024), that 56 percent of Americans say government is "almost always wasteful and inefficient" (Pew Research, June 2024), and that "55% of Americans say the government is doing too much" (Gallup, November 2024). That's exactly what the Trump administration created DOGE to combat, so it should be a good sign for the project.

But Americans are torn over DOGE. Asked by AP-NORC to share their opinions of "an advisory body on government efficiency led by Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy" (before Ramaswamy left to run for office), only 29 percent support the venture while 39 percent oppose it. That seems to reflect its leadership. Fifty-two percent of those polled have an unfavorable opinion of tech titan Musk, while 36 percent view him favorably.

Why the hate? Musk's problem may be that he's a high-profile rich guy with things to say at a time when that type of person isn't especially popular. Sixty percent of respondents believe it would be a bad thing "if the president relies on billionaires for advice about government policy." That disapproval crosses over into opinions about DOGE, even if people say they support its goals.

…but Wants Increased Spending and Opposes Cuts in Government

A bigger problem, though, is that Americans aren't really comfortable with cutting the expense and bloat of the most expensive and bloated parts of the federal government. When asked by AP-NORC if the government was spending enough, most said they think the government is spending too little in areas including education (65 percent), Social Security (67 percent), Medicare (61 percent), Medicaid (55 percent), assistance to the poor (62 percent), and border security (51 percent).

The fact is that it's impossible to cut the cost and size of government if all these areas are considered untouchable. According to the U.S. Treasury, as of Fiscal Year 2025, 21 percent of federal spending goes to Social Security, 15 percent to national defense, 14 percent to health, 13 percent to net interest to service the government's massive debt, 13 percent to Medicare, 9 percent to income security, and so on.

DOGE might be able to squeeze some inefficiency out of these programs, but it's not going to reduce the size and expense of government if people insist that more be spent on these programs. Well, unless national defense is gutted, since only 34 percent of respondents think too little is spent on that category.

Likewise, only 29 percent of respondents told AP-NORC they want to eliminate large numbers of federal jobs (40 percent oppose the idea) and 23 percent favor eliminating entire federal agencies (49 percent oppose). A plurality of 43 percent is willing to make federal workers return to the office five days a week. Efficiency gains and cost savings are supposed to come from where?

What Americans Want Is Incoherent

This is a problem with regard to the public's relationship with government that I noted recently in the context of healthcare. "It is an old joke among health policy wonks that what the American people really want from health care reform is unlimited care, from the doctor of their choice, with no wait, free of charge," Michael Tanner, then of the Cato Institute, quipped in 2017. People rightly resent a vast, intrusive government that bosses them around, enriches dishonest politicians and bureaucrats, and engages in massive waste. But then they insist on gobs of extra goodies that require an even bigger governing apparatus that imposes more rules, wastes more money, and lines more pockets. And they'd like somebody else to pay for it, please.

That the new Republican majority in Congress wants to cut government in some areas but increase spending even more in others to an extent that according to Politico "could add as much as $10 trillion to the federal budget deficit" just exacerbates the problem. What people say they want isn't just incoherent; it's incompatible with reality.

The best hope, at this point, is that DOGE keeps trudging along with frankly inspired ideas like a voluntary buyout of government workers that leaves people reasonably happy with their lot. Let's see if Musk and company can think of a way to do that with whole agencies. Maybe we can spin the Department of Education off as a chain of storefront tutoring centers, with franchises sold to former bureaucrats. They'll have to compete in a free market, of course.

The deck remains stacked against DOGE and its mission to streamline government's size and cost. That it's making any progress at all despite the public's conflicted feelings on its mission is a victory.

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  1. MasterThief   5 months ago

    You're describing slightly less insane democrats. They aren't on board with this anyway.

  2. Don't look at me!   5 months ago

    Since when do people get what they want?

    1. Bobster0   5 months ago

      "May you get what you wish for" is a Chinese curse. Like "May you live in interesting times."

  3. Commenter_XY   5 months ago

    Who in the fuck loves bloated government?

    1. flag58   5 months ago

      Government contractors?

    2. Brophy   5 months ago

      Voters love bloated government, as the author says. Democracy is the worst form of government.

    3. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   5 months ago

      People upset that Trump is firing IGs, for one: "WE NEED MORE GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEES!!!"

      1. Wizard4169   5 months ago

        Yeah, nothing improves efficiency like firing the people tasked with rooting out waste, fraud and abuse.

        1. B G   5 months ago

          IG's are great at finding waste, fraud, and abuse after it's happened (along with all the money they government spends in attempts to prevent it from happening).

          In the post-truth era, even IG findings seem to be accepted or rejected based more on which party's agenda their conclusions serve. Have any prominent Dems actually accepted the finding from the FBI IG which found that there were multiple abuses and improper submissions of "evidence" in the FISA system during operation "Crossfire Hurricane"?

  4. Sometimes a Great Notion   5 months ago

    Godspeed DOGE!

  5. Earth-based Human Skeptic   5 months ago

    People CHILDISHLY resent a vast, intrusive government that bosses them around, enriches dishonest politicians and bureaucrats, and engages in massive waste. But then they insist on gobs of extra goodies that require an even bigger governing apparatus that imposes more rules, wastes more money, and lines more pockets. And they'd like somebody else to pay for it, please.

    FIFY

  6. Roberta   5 months ago

    You're asking the wrong questions. If you leave it open ended, of course people want everything and to pay nothing. It'd be irrational for them not to. So why bother asking questions whose answers are foreordained?

    They've done it the right way in focus groups many times, where they hammer out the trade-offs. A lot more involved than simply polling, but the only way to get useful answers.

    1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   5 months ago

      ^+1. If not, we'd all be the new Soviet man.

  7. But SkyNet is a Private Company   5 months ago

    The government has been spending too little on Border Security, which was $0 up until recently.
    The agency charged with Border Security may have had a bloated budget, but they were spending nothing on actual Border Security.

    So, the polling is not very incongruous

    1. MollyGodiva   5 months ago

      Do you have a reference to backup your statement other than "I pulled it out of my ass"?

  8. MollyGodiva   5 months ago

    DOGE is not an "advisory board" it is a shadow government (no exaggeration) run by Musk and his employees. He is acting outside of federal law and Congressional oversight. The federal government is complicated and randomly hacking it away will not make it more "efficient".

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   5 months ago

      Now do the WEF.

      1. MollyGodiva   5 months ago

        WEP is not working inside the US government.

        1. Zeb   5 months ago

          Neither is DOGE.

          1. MollyGodiva   5 months ago

            DOGE does not really exist. It is Musk taking over the US government.

    2. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   5 months ago

      Molly.
      Godiva.
      Is.
      Full.
      Of.
      Shit.
      Fuck off and die, asshole.

      1. Wizard4169   5 months ago

        Molly is largely right about this, and unlikely to ever match your shit levels.

    3. Zeb   5 months ago

      You are welcome to set up your own "shadow government" (that has no legal authority on its own, like DOGE) and offer your own suggestions and see if the president will sign off on them.

      1. Wizard4169   5 months ago

        Yeah, and just how far would I get if I started showing up to government offices and demanding access to confidential records and systems? Probably not nearly as far as Musk and his merry band of criminals. You're right that they have no legal authority, but that hasn't stopped their lawless behavior.

    4. Wizard4169   5 months ago

      Nice to know I'm not the only one that sees that. This make-believe "Department" needs to be razed to the ground and Musk and his minions need to be arrested and prosecuted for their criminal behavior.

    5. B G   5 months ago

      We're now a decade past the point where Congressional Oversight had devolved to "we need to pass this bill to find out what's in it" and where only one of 535 legislators took issue with the President claiming the authority to order the extrajudicial and warrant-less assassination of US Citizens.

      If my perception of Musk (that he's got major blind spots in terms of "knowing what he doesn't know") is at all accurate, then he's likely one of the worst possible candidates to undertake this kind of operation. That's a separate issue from a question of whether or not what DOGE is attempting might be a worthwhile endeavor.

  9. eyeroller   5 months ago

    DOGE is the latest episode in the long-running series where Republican pretend they want to cut spending.

    1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   5 months ago

      eyeroller is the latest 'both sides' brain-dead shit.

      1. Wizard4169   5 months ago

        So if the GOP wants to cut spending, why does spending increase faster under Republican administrations and fastest of all when they hold a trifecta? No "both sides bullshit", just the honest record. The last time they took fiscal responsibility even a little seriously was the day Bill Clinton left office.

  10. Earth-based Human Skeptic   5 months ago

    Until we require a credit card or Venmo to access a voting booth, and then charge per specific voter choice, this shit will continue.

    1. Brophy   5 months ago

      We need to abolish secret voting. We must make voters accountable.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   5 months ago

        That worked in the first decades after 1776.

  11. Heraclitus   5 months ago

    We have a guy who owns a space company that wants to spend billions to go to Mars for no particular reason and you all are whining about efficiency? Is there anything efficient about the army of middle-men that send billing statements back and forth for a routine visit to the doctor and then mess them up a significant portion of the time? How about all the mega corporations that send me emails about their silly "rewards" programs that are often not even rewards? Is it efficient to have hundreds of different pyramid scemes, err, crypocurrencies and then have our own president endorse that nonsense? What a waste of talent that is.

    Yes, we accept inefficiencies. I would rather have an ambulance driver reading a book waiting for a call because it's good to know that when they are needed they are available. We do have many workers twiddling their thumbs for the same reason. Having dedicated, full-time employees is good instead of contracting part-timers and putting them on call because it means there is less turnover and institutional knowledge is retained. If you want efficiency you should turn to technology and then not criticize humans for not being worked to the bone.

    We can solve many of our problems and keep workers well off and not overworked if we simply taxed the brolagarchs. I would gladly take those workers who are grinding away on Musk's seventh yacht and instead pay them to administer my Social Security. Let's take the caterers and wine concertieges and have them answering the phone at the IRS when we need them instead of making me use TurbTax's crappy chatbot they are always trying to upsell me on.

    The amount of waste and inefficiency in the private sector is staggering and never talked about. How about all the copycat podcasters and pundits that have nothing new to say and never actually dig up any "news". Instead they just write smug crap like this. Is that efficient? Is it efficient to not have any local news reporters while our country goes down a corrupt rabbit hole? We have the free market media to thank for that "efficiency".

    1. Brophy   5 months ago

      Elon Musk doesn't own 7 yachts, he doesn't own even one yacht. He rarely takes vacations and rents a yacht when he does.

    2. Brophy   5 months ago

      I'd rather have private businesses waste their money than have government waste mine.

    3. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   5 months ago

      "We have a guy who owns a space company that wants to spend billions to go to Mars for no particular reason and you all are whining about efficiency?..."

      So lo0ng as he's spending his money, it's none of your fucking business, shit-for-brains.

      1. Lester75   5 months ago

        Musk wants government money to go to Mars. Who do you think is whispering in Trump's ear about this. Who's company will be building stuff for this:

        https://nypost.com/2025/01/20/us-news/trump-vows-to-put-us-astronauts-on-mars-pursue-our-manifest-destiny/

  12. Pilate   5 months ago

    This is a convenient but misleading set of claims. While many would advocate for more spending, they're not advocating for more bloat. Indeed, the bloat is the problem and removing it would most likely also obviate the need for additional spending.

  13. Uncle Jay   5 months ago

    The Pentagon last year said it "lost" about $300 billion.
    You don't "lose" $300 billion because money doesn't exist in a vacuum.
    It goes somewhere...probably some federal government officials' offshore bank accounts.

    1. Zeb   5 months ago

      Or their accounting is just fucked up. Not that that means it isn't winding up in some official's bank account. But that happens with a lot of on the books military spending too.

  14. TJJ2000   5 months ago

    "What Americans Want Is Incoherent"
    Not all Americans. Just leftards.
    'Guns' don't make sh*t!

    1. Wizard4169   5 months ago

      There will soon be plenty of right wingnuts screaming bloody murder when their government services are denied or delayed.

  15. lwt1960   5 months ago

    Since I miss uncle joe so much, I’ll start with…here’s the deal…ok, JDs point merely shows the high intelligence of the common man to hold conflicting views in their heads at the same time. Simple, right?

    Take spending more on schools. Everybody likes that. In California schools are funded by property taxes I pay to LA county. They send it to the state, which sends it back to the cities to distribute to LAUSD to spend on local schools. Who wouldn’t want to go one better and send your personal income taxes to DC so they can send it back to the states to the cities to LAUSD to the local schools? Makes perfect sense. And what service is provided? Kids where eye watering majorities can’t read write or compute in any effective way.

    As I say way too often lately, people deserve their democracy good and hard.

  16. Ama Valde Intellectum   4 months ago

    WE had increase of govt under Lincoln and then drastic reduction.
    You argue about how and about what might happen but Biden parked $20 Billion in a bank with utter disdain for suffering folks.

    What side are you on ????
    Zeldin seeks to recoup billions issued by Biden under ‘green bank’ program

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