The L.A. Fires Are a Natural Disaster, Not a Policy Disaster
The Golden State has many bad policies in desperate need of reform. It's not obvious they had more than a marginal effect on the still-burning fires in Los Angeles.

Happy Tuesday, and welcome to another edition of Rent Free.
This week's newsletter takes an extended look at the Los Angeles–area fires and the alleged link between bad zoning, land use, insurance, and environmental review policies and the damage done by the fires themselves.
The Los Angeles Fires and the Overblown Role of Public Policy
California, of course, has many bad public policies. You can't swing a dead cat without hitting a bad California policy. Swinging the cat probably violates a couple of them.
With the outbreak of deadly fires in the Los Angeles area, a number of journalists and wonks are drawing links between many of these bad policies and the unprecedented destruction resulting from the blaze.
State and federal environmental review laws add years of delay to needed controlled burns and fuels reduction activity on public lands. California's zoning laws have pushed more people into the urban periphery where they're more exposed to wildfire risk. California's suppression of home insurance premiums has done the same by masking the cost of living in wildfire-prone areas.
These criticisms are all leveled at bad policies this newsletter has repeatedly covered.
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In some contexts, those policies do make the damage done by wildfires worse. They'll certainly complicate Los Angeles' recovery efforts.
But the connection between bad land use, insurance, and environmental regulations and the damage done by the current Los Angeles fires to people and property is more tenuous.
On closer inspection, this appears to be a severe natural disaster with natural causes. Bad public policy has played only a marginal role.
Reviewing the Role of Environmental Review
The hilly shrubland where the Palisades and Eaton fires started, and are still burning, are a mesh of federal, state, and locally owned parks, nature preserves, and undeveloped open space.
A lot of commentary has naturally focused on how federal and state environmental review laws prevent state and federal agencies from doing fuels reduction activity that would reduce wildfire risk on these lands.
The National Environmental Policy Act (NEPA) and its state-level equivalent, the California Environmental Quality Act (CEQA), both require agencies to produce book-length reports before performing controlled burns or mechanically thinning vegetation.
Producing those book reports takes years. Environmental lawsuits alleging insufficiently long book reports can add additional years to the process.
According to research by the Property and Environment Research Center (PERC), NEPA reviews for mechanical thinning (where flammable vegetation is cleared away) can take over five years. Reviews of prescribed burns can take over seven. Litigation can add another year or two to the process.
This lengthy environmental review process makes good forest management much more difficult. There's not a lot of evidence that it's contributed to the severity of the Los Angeles fires.
That's because the chaparral and shrub–covered hillsides currently burning are not areas where controlled burns would typically be done, says Luca Carmignani, an assistant professor and wildfire researcher at San Diego State University*.
"Controlled burns" in those environments are hard to control. Period.
Fires in shrubland areas "tend to be high-intensity fires where the entire plant burns. It's a little less controllable than fire on the ground of a forest floor. That tends to be much, much lower intensity," he tells Reason. "Controlled burns are done in some cases, but it's mostly for areas covered by grass or areas not really applicable to Los Angeles."
Mechanical thinning is a more useful fuels reduction method in the Los Angeles areas, says Carmignani. It's also an area where a lot of mechanical thinning already happens.
The Santa Monica Mountains, where the Palisades fire is still burning, has been the site of a lot of mechanical thinning activity. Journalist Kevin Drum notes that fuel reduction activity happened on over half a million acres in California last year.
More likely could have been done without NEPA and CEQA in the way.
Even so, there's also only so much fuels reduction can do to reduce wildfire risk in the conditions that led to Los Angeles' current fires: exceptionally strong seasonal Santa Ana winds that reached hurricane levels of intensity.
"If you have strong winds, embers fly away miles ahead of the fire," says Carmignani. Clearing a few hundred yards here or there can provide firefighters with areas to operate. But it isn't going to stop the fire from spreading to new areas when winds are that high.
If the four-lane Pacific Coast Highway wasn't enough of a fire break to prevent beachside Malibu homes from burning down, one wonders what would be.
The WUI Has To Go Somewhere
Numerous articles argue that California's land use regulations have thwarted urban infill development in favor of suburban sprawl in the fire-prone wildland-urban interface (WUI). The low-density, wood-frame, single-family housing built in the WUI is the type of housing most at risk of burning down.
This narrative isn't wrong. But its relevance to the destructiveness of the Los Angeles fires is tenuous.
As City Journal's James Meigs writes (in an article otherwise critical of California's restrictions on infill development), "L.A.'s damaged and threatened neighborhoods are an outlier in this dynamic [of infill restrictions encouraging suburban sprawl]. Some were developed as much as a century ago, long before economic factors lured other Californians into WUI regions."
The population of Altadena, where the Eaton Fire has destroyed thousands of homes and claimed over a dozen lives, has been flat since 1970, for instance.
Indeed, a notable feature of these fires is just how urban they are. Local governments in solidly urban communities like Santa Monica and Pasadena have issued evacuation orders for parts of their cities.
Pacific Palisades, the other community most heavily affected by the fires, also doesn't neatly fit the story of infill restrictions begetting fire-prone suburban sprawl.
The reason that people live in Pacific Palisades is more easily attributable to pull factors of the area's beautiful hills and ocean views than the push factor of urban Los Angeles' restrictions on multifamily development.
If an apartment in the city is what the residents of Pacific Palisades preferred, odds are they could afford it—even with the artificial scarcity created by zoning.
One reason that urban infill development is more resilient to wildfire risks is that it is urban: A concrete apartment building that covers an entire lot is less of a burn risk than a wooden single-family home surrounded by yards.
Another reason is that it's infill: There are a lot of structures between it and natural, wildfire-prone areas. But the wildland-urban interface is going to be somewhere.
"If you have any city, you're going to have a border with some amount of wildland. In California, just about any kind of undeveloped land is going to have some particular wildfire risk," says Judge Glock, research director at the Manhattan Institute. "You cannot prevent wildfire by not developing."
It's true that single-family homes with large yards are more at risk of burning down. Zoning mandates low-density development in areas currently being threatened by fire.
Even in a world without zoning and density restrictions, one would also assume that areas on the urban periphery (wherever it lies) are going to be of lower densities as well.
Suppressed Premiums, Enhanced Fire Risk?
Even single-family homes on large lots can be hardened against fire risk. Ideally, insurance companies who write policies in wildfire-prone areas would incentivize homeowners to adopt some of these hardening features.
California's insurance regulations, as Reason covered yesterday, limit insurers' ability to accurately price wildfire risk into policy premiums while also forcing them to renew policies in wildfire-prone areas.
These regulations have created a financial crisis in California's property insurance market and are the driving force behind the state's largest insurers' efforts to scale back the business they do in the state.
Did these same insurance regulations result in more building in Los Angeles' wildfire-prone area and thus more homes being devoured by wildfire?
The answer is "maybe," says Ray Lehman, a senior fellow at the International Center for Law and Economics. He says fire risk doesn't increase linearly with the amount of development that's built in fire-prone areas.
Building a little bit of housing in a wildfire-prone area increases risk because that small amount of housing is next to a lot of combustible nature. But building a lot of housing reduces fire risk because that combustible nature is consumed by less flammable development.
There's a point where the marginal additional home goes from increasing an area's fire risk to reducing it.
Conceivably, California's artificially reduced premiums increased development in wildfire-prone areas, says Lehman. Whether that increased development increased or decreased wildfire risk is harder to say.
That calculation is also complicated by the fact that "there will always be very wealthy people who like to live on very large properties on cliffsides in the woods," says Lehman.
As mentioned, some of the areas most devastated by the Los Angeles–area fires have been very wealthy areas in Pacific Palisades, Malibu, and the Hollywood Hills.
Absent insurance subsidies, it's likely there'd still be a lot of rich people willing to pay very high insurance premiums to live in large homes in semirural seclusion.
Properly priced insurance would certainly help incentivize more fire-safe building techniques and retrofits. But it wouldn't stop homes being built in high fire-risk areas.
Marginal Effects
The above post might well read like a long list of "well, actually"s, particularly given that California's zoning, environmental review, and insurance laws are all deeply flawed and in need of much reform.
A number of these policies will certainly make it more difficult for California to recover from the still-burning wildfires ravaging the Los Angeles area.
The state's ruinous insurance regulations had already left many homeowners without coverage and pushed the industry as a whole into crisis mode before the most recent conflagrations. The estimated $150 billion in damages caused by the Palisades and Eaton fires only adds to this regulatory-created disaster.
California's land use regulations made building housing an unnecessarily expensive and lengthy process before the fires. The burden of those regulations will become only more apparent as tens of thousands of homes and businesses need to be rebuilt.
But one shouldn't overpromise the results of reform. A California with more rational, liberal zoning laws and more accurately priced insurance is still going to experience wildfires.
Those wildfires will still destroy homes and tragically continue to claim lives. Better policy can mitigate the damage and reduce risk. But those risks can never be erased so long as we live on a planet that occasionally wants to kill us.
Quick Links
- Speaking of burdensome California regulations, Gov. Gavin Newsom has issued an emergency order that waives property owners' need to comply with CEQA and coastal zone regulations when rebuilding, provided those rebuilds aren't much bigger than whatever structure was destroyed in the fire.
- Some state legislators are praising Newson's executive order while calling for wider, permanent permitting reform in the wake of the fires.
CEQA and other permitting regimes, once envisioned as protections for our environment, have morphed into obstacles for meeting our housing and climate goals. This is a perfect opportunity for us to exercise broader permitting reform in the face of our new climate reality.
— Buffy Wicks (@BuffyWicks) January 12, 2025
- The destruction wrought by the Los Angeles fires is providing a teachable moment in supply and demand. The destruction of so many homes is boosting demand for the remaining units, the Los Angeles Times reports. Local and state rent control laws are keeping a lid on the natural price hikes that would result, with the consequence that individual units are attracting dozens, and occasionally hundreds, of applications.
1,000 applicants pic.twitter.com/Fzlh2vENco
— Armand Domalewski (@ArmandDoma) January 12, 2025
- Over at CityLab, Kriston Capps covers some of the fire-resistant building techniques that helped save some Los Angeles–area homes from destruction.
- It's not just homes and businesses being destroyed by the fires. Los Angeles–area churches and other houses of worship have also been destroyed or damaged by the blaze.
*CORRECTION: The original version of this article misidentified Carmignani's employer.
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That's because the chaparral and shrub–covered hillsides currently burning are not areas where controlled burns would typically be done, says Luca Carmignani,
Sounds like bad policy to me.
Notice he doesn't ask why they aren't covered?
Oh all right. The fires were a natural disaster, not a policy disaster.
But the fucking response sure as shit was a policy disaster. Who the hell are you trying to carry water for? Sure isn't the victims.
Here's one way to tell the difference. Assume no people. Natural fires happen. They delay subsequent fires. They encourage the growth of fire-resistant and fire-dependent vegetation. Eventually some sort of stable accommodation develops, say one fire every five years, or 10, or 50. On average. Whatever.
Then along come humans who build houses and roads and parks and tennis courts and yoga centers. They disrupt this natural stable system. It settles into a new stable system.
And then, finally, we get the bureaucrats and the do-gooders and the parasites who contribute nothing, learn nothing, and waste everybody's time and resources defending stupid little fish and uncompetitive owls and salamanders, and utterly destroy what nature has settled on, all in the name of preserving a natural status quo which they don't have any understanding of, or interest in understanding, because they are fucking parasitical bureaucrats and policiticians who don't give a damn about anything but building up their power base.
That's your fucking policy disaster.
It’s the democrat way.
Well stated!
This is the only way Reason can boaf sidez when there is clearly only one side.
Yup. Boaf sidez is not an issue when Republicans shit the bed. And they shit the bed plenty. But their shits don't tend to culminate in entire cities burning down or two years of government-sanctioned child abuse masquerading as "The Science."
“Who the hell are you trying to carry water for?”
But see, that’s where he’s got you: THERE IS NO WATER TO CARRY!
I need to watch Chinatown again.
Just don't watch The Two Jake's, whatever you do. I wouldn't wish that on Boehm.
It is 100% obvious that bad policies had a huge impact on the LA fires. This article so a joke. Just water carrying for extreme far left democrats.
"The L.A. Fires Are a Natural Disaster"
Is "Natural Disaster" the name of all the people they are arresting for arson? It's weird that they would all share the same name.
This is a theme with democrats. It’s like when they say ‘nobody’ is above the law.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlZra8gw1Y4
So your position is that running out of water to fight fires is only a "marginal" impact?
I disrespectfully disagree.
Democrats are the root of all evil, and this destruction is certainly evil. That means that this was a policy disaster. Anyone who says otherwise is a leftist.
Ideas™ !
Explain how it wasn’t. Or are you just ranting again?
I know it’s totally unfair to hold democrats accountable for their failures and corruption.
Mostly drunk.
That’s a given.
Mostly?
For Sarc, it's all about intentions. Democrats have good intentions, therefore all negative results are unintended.
Post hoc ergo propter hoc.
Stultus Troglodytarum stultus est
Tu Quoque ergo Chicken Coque au Vin
The L.A. Fires Are a Natural Disaster, Not a Policy Disaster
Or maybe, like, ya know, both?
Wildfires may be a "natural disaster", but it's one of the few that can be made less common, and less dangerous, via good policies (ones that aren't written by incompetent Leftists).
This isn't like a hurricane, tornado or earthquake.
Damn Britches, you jostling to be Newsome's speech writer?
But to get to the point, what I want to know is how many [more] congressional seats is CA going to lose as a result of this "natural disaster" and subsequent depopulation?
A number of these policies will certainly make it more difficult for California to recover from the still-burning wildfires ravaging the Los Angeles area.
Just don't move. Covid pushed enough of you mother fuckers up here already.
*thinks* Is there another way to remove dangerous, dry brush that doesn't involve a 'controlled burn'?
*waves hand*
I know, I know, teach!
Hire the homeless! They're hungry, aren't they?
You expect them to WORK!? Didn't someone pass a law [in CA] that you may not disturb a person when they are RESTING?
*thinks* Is there another way to remove dangerous, dry brush that doesn't involve a 'controlled burn'?
MOAR WITCHES!
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Yes, and the article goes into it if you keep reading.
This was the result of incompetent governance. The state government was fully aware of the possible massive destruction the state is prone to with extremely high winds and massive fires. They refused to do anything to be properly prepared to handle these issues they are fully aware of. This wasn't a natural disaster. It is a disaster caused by incompetent governance.
I get those things added to the massive destruction, but the state governments are fully aware of these issues and refused to properly ensure they were equipped to handle these issues they're fully aware of.
In the Army we had saying, Proper Preparation Prevents Poor Performance. Known as the Five P's. The California government was not properly prepared to prevent their poor performance.
And here is where Christian's true priorites are revealed.
Housing be damned, demonrat governance wasn't the problem.
His priorities are to prop up muni bond holders in LA and California with a federal bailout. It’ll be road warrior when LA goes the way of Detroit.
Interesting thread by a guy from Sicily where they have massive fires every year and how they protect their property.
https://x.com/aledeniz/status/1878450189913969018
There's not enough water in LA for everyone to defend their homes. Even the rich had to resort to outside help.
California dumps billions of gallons of water into the ocean and refuses to desalinate. LA sits next to the Pacific ocean but there's not enough water?
They demolish damns because they want it make it easier for fish to swim upstream. They certainly have water management issues.
And because the (so called) 'chiefs' of no longer extant stone-age cultures want unearned privileges:
"Sites Reservoir in the Sacramento Valley remains a second environmental battlefront between Newsom and California tribes and conservation groups"
https://sacramento.newsreview.com/2024/12/17/sites-reservoir-in-the-sacramento-valley-remains-a-second-environmental-battlefront-between-newsom-and-california-tribes-and-conservation-groups/
California dumps billions of gallons of water into the ocean and refuses to desalinate.
Precisely. There's not enough water. An example of how this is a policy disaster and not just a "natural disaster".
There is enough water. More than enough. The water system in LA is so inferior and poorly designed that it cannot effectively transport that water to where it is needed.
So, yeah, they got the water, they are too fucking incompetent to properly design a system to move it.
More mismanagement.
Bingo
Weird, the only time I hear about Kabul, Gaza, or any other city strewn about the Sahara, ME, or Gobi desert burning to the ground is because a bunch of civilians were sleeping in tents around a terrorist leader IDF were using incendiary rockets.
Forget Villanueve's Dune, it's like a late-stage Star Wars project around here.
I’ll have to look into her Star Wars work.
Sure. Thanks Gavin.
GTFO.
Christian is of course correct that wildfires in CA are an unpreventable natural event and waves off forest management as insignificant. But completely ignores the thing that is known to mitigate fire damage in inhabited areas: fucking water. Water management in California is disastrous in ways that go far beyond controlling fires in Hollywood Hills but when people watch their neighborhood burn to the ground because the fire department can't get any pressure from the hydrants somebody somewhere fucked up big time. Water can't prevent wildfires without rain but enough of it stored can save your house.
Not only did California refuse to stock runoff, they emptied their reservoirs, removed dams, reduced the size of their fire departments and ended fire mitigation practices like clearing brush and controlled burns.
This was 1000 percent a policy failure.
Newsom, Bass, and so many others belong in prison over this.
Water, space, materials, maintenance (not just burns)...
Cavemen didn't master tornadoes, Earthquakes, and hurricanes 10,000 yrs. ago.
No, this is a gross mismanagement issue.
No one augmented or expanded any of the emergency services required to fight a fire like this. The entire water system could not carry the water capacity to fight this fire. That is what's known as a scaling issue. You have to scale infrastructure with your population growth. That was never done.
Evacuation routes weren't planned and did not have law enforcement to supervise the efficient evacuation process.
There was very little proactive, in-incident, and post-incident communications with the folks who are affected and displaced. There is absolutely no plan to deal with this.
I spent a good amount of my career doing DR (Disaster Recovery) and BCP (Business Continuity Planning). TL;DR what is your plan when the shit hits the fan? Anyone managing liability goes through this process regularly to mitigate risk and build continuity systems when shit goes atypical. At least good managers go through this process and have a plan when NOT IF something goes wrong.
California's response to these fires is reactionary in totality. There is no plan. If there was a plan, they'd be referring to its execution and how effective that plan it. Notice, not a mention of a plan. Because there isn't one.
Shit management is easy to spot. Just throw a wrench into the works and watch the entire thing collapse. If you throw a wrench into a well-managed machine, it eats the wrench.
The LA fires are abject and abhorrent mismanagement.
Yeah, Christian is actually echoing a comment of mine from yesterday. Yes, there’s bad policy everywhere, and yes, it’s had an effect on this disaster. But it’s a marginal effect. There’s little you can do against fires being pushed and fanned by 80-100 mph winds. Fire hoses even with nearly unlimited water aren’t extinguishing it.
You need air power, but your aircraft can’t take off under those conditions. And the wind itself is a dry desert wind pushing west, so it’s just that bit extra incendiary. Not everything bad thing that happens is because the government is shit.
Except they where warned of the risk days before and did nothing to prepare. Nothing. No trucks ready. No supplies ready. National Guard not ready, in fact they weren't deployed till several days later.
If they would have everything ready to fight, than I agree with your point. They didn't. Years of neglect in a fire zone. Laying off fireworkers. No new storage is built.
While you can't prevent, you can migrate the issue. They didn't do anything.
Fire happens - the size and effect is owned by the policies/government here. Go talk to some firefighters and risk managers. You and Christians are just carrying empty budget for Ds in CA.
Oh, you also ignore Oregon sent firetrucks but they were stopped at the CA border for hours and hours because CA had to inspect them.
You guys all realize that Venice (in Italy) used to sit on dry land, right? That Jamestown and DC were both barely habitable swamps that killed 50% of the people who lived there when the settlers arrived, right? That, almost 50 yrs. before the Aqueducts were built we dug a canal across Panama, right?
LA has a goddamned beach. The idea that they didn't have enough water is patently stupid and your conception of 'nearly unlimited water' is obviously retarded.
The existing city of Chicago a century ago was raised up out of the water table. I'm not an engineer but if human beings can do shit like that with little more than manual labor and horse teams it seems like the wealthiest jurisdiction on the fucking planet in the 21st century could at least come up with a plan to save the people who pay them for exactly that.
Half of New York was cesspools too.
The idea that this was a natural disaster is an open admission that you don't even have the IQ of a pine cone you're abjectly retarded to *at least* the last 2000 yrs. of human civilization *and* ecology of the southwest.
Oh my. The rating agencies and LA municipal bonds. Damn -here we go again 2007-2008. Search
cityoflosangelesinvestorrelations.bondlink.com/cityoflosangeles
Most are triple AAA double AA+
It gets worse. General Obligation Bonds are AAA rated in LA due to the city’s ability to “RAISE TAXES ON ITS RESIDENTS”. Now that millions of newcomers aren’t legal residents how can the city tax them? This collapse is gonna be fucking ugly.
Song having nothing to do with the article other than the name "Natural Disaster."
https://youtu.be/j3gG5A94xHY?si=9O4MYUni0GyXEAhW
Just when I thought Reason couldn't get dumber - wow. Just wow.
Fires happen in CA - agreed. They have happened forever.
Now policies -
*Was brush cleared out limiting the fuel?
* When the warning went out at the beginning of the week did the city prepare?
* Was water available?
* National Guard?
* What steps were taken to limit the fire when/if occurred?
This are policy directions like cutting fire fighters.
You know Florida gets hit by hurricanes. It can't be helped. Yet, notice how they were ready and prepared. CA isn't.
Stop defending bad politicians because they are on your team.
Reason just put a D behind your name.
It will be interesting to see the DiSantis/Newsome debates in 2028.
>The Golden State has many bad policies in desperate need of reform. It's not obvious they had more than a marginal effect on the still-burning fires in Los Angeles.
Let's see;
1. bad water management
2. bad wildlands management
3. a mayor who had no plan for anything if she was elected
4. a mayor who treats being a mayor as a part-time job
5. a mayor who spends a huge amount of time farting around outside the city, even outside the country. And not even in Mexico, where there's at least some link to the city
6. a governor who doesn't actually govern but wiggles his shoulders when asked hard questions in lieu of a plan
7. a fire department that prioritized genital-rubbing preference over competency
8. A fire department where one of the top three people thinks you consider it more important that your fire-fighters 'look like you' when they show up over being able to carry your arse out of a burning building
Jesus Christ, do we need to go on?
So, no, its not a 'natural disaster'. Wild fires are never natural disasters. Natural disasters are things you can't control or can't afford to control. An earthquake, hurricane, tornado, mudslide - those are natural disasters. Wildfires are not natural disasters in the US, they are failures of wildland management.
Well said.
Yahtzee!
"Wildfires are not natural disasters in the US, they are failures of wildland management."
The "wildland" where the fire started was literally about 200 yards from the nearest houses.
Wildfires can be man made. A cigar in the middle of the forest can be capable of causing that.
The terrible management is only making things even worse.
>State and federal environmental review laws add years of delay to needed controlled burns and fuels reduction activity on public lands. California's zoning laws have pushed more people into the urban periphery where they're more exposed to wildfire risk. California's suppression of home insurance premiums has done the same by masking the cost of living in wildfire-prone areas.
If you are saying - as you are - that these policies have only a marginal effect on the LA fire . . . well then why are you bothering to criticize them? CHANGING THEM WOULD ONLY HAVE A MARGINAL EFFECT THEN WOULDN'T IT?
You're saying they're largely irrelevant so why would anyone spend time worrying about them rather than more substantive things? Fuck! Its like you don't even read your stuff after you write it.
Stop calling these events "natural disasters." They are man-made disasters.
Wildfires, earthquakes, floods, tornados, hurricanes, mudslides, etcetera are natural phenomenon. "Disaster" is only applied when human lives and property are affected. The scope of the "disaster" is always measured by the value of the property damaged or destroyed and the number of human lives lost.
Many policies make the disasters worse by incentivizing -- or removing disincentives -- people to build more, and live more densely, in areas prone to these natural phenomenon.
Oops.
Sorry, I thought I had logged into Reason.com.
My bad.
ya the 117 million gallons of missing water was totally evaporated by Mom Nature.
I'm baffled how an ocean front city, location of the *two* largest ports in North America, runs out of water.
1 million metric tons of cheap, Chinese crap in a day? As long as nobody's fucking with the 'supply chains', no problem! Water to put out a fire? Is that supposed to just magically appear out of nowhere?
Cuyahoga, Chicago, Peshtigo... I get it. The vegetation is green half the year, you don't expect fire to just sweep across the countryside. It was the past, they were doing the best they could. But LA/CA *knows* this is coming every couple of years. Even if only because climate scientists have been warning them for a couple of decades.
>>I'm baffled
#metoo other than the delivery vector up the hill.
a prepared mayor might have had Air Canada at the waiting or maybe shopped around for some other water planes idk
#metoo other than the delivery vector up the hill.
Probably as long as man has been carting around fire and the means for making it, they've been carting around water.
The entire 'natural disaster not policy disaster' feels very much like a "We can't possibly solve this problem because we're not as smart as our non-verbal Paleolithic ancestors."
This guy gets it.
Is this fucking real?
Illegal immigrants and homeless people start fires, firemen show up to put out the fires but there’s no water, and that’s a natural disaster?
You must have missed the story about the guy that protected his home with a garden hose. A lot of the property damage could have been avoided if people were educated in how to prevent it. That sounds like a job for a good government.
"You can't swing a cat without hitting a bad policy"
Most experts think this refers to swinging a cat-o-nine-tails, not swinging an actual mammal, certainly not a "dead cat." If you're going to try to look smart, don't deploy sayings you don't understand!
>>Some state legislators are praising Newson's executive order while calling for wider, permanent permitting reform in the wake of the fires.
omfg you do know who Buffy Wicks is before you go citing her tweets, yes?
If the four-lane Pacific Coast Highway wasn't enough of a fire break to prevent beachside Malibu homes from burning down, one wonders what would be.
JFC. Of all the gin joints, in all the towns, in all the world, this wildfire had to blow into mine.
I knew from the headline what to expect in the comments. I also didn't bother reading through the sophomoric spinning, I think it's rather nice of Reason to spread the wealth around to otherwise uninteresting writers
I knew from the headline what to expect in the comments.
The correct take?
The "sophomoric spinning" is the truth, Pilate. Read the comments, coward.
Reason: There California was, minding its own business when... ALL OF A SUDDEN!
Christian: Nobody saw this coming and even if they did we can all pretend otherwise. For the devout, be assured that He moves in mysterious ways. Tiny CA lapel flags for the rest.
Tiny CA lapel flags for the rest.
I'm not particularly fond of the people I didn't know in LA, but if you or anyone else tries to pin that lapel flag on me in order to 'Never Forget' what happened I will use a baseball bat to cram it up your ass.
The amount of urban-forest interface is influenced by the shape of development. Cancer-like shape will have a lot more interface than a benign-tumor-like shape.
Damn, that's some pro-level retarding right there.
Don't see so much of it in the wilds these days, what with all you pro-tards going into higher ed and politics.
Reason Headlines from the last few days:
-Fires Incinerated the Facade of California Governing Competence
-Los Angeles Zoning Laws Pushed People and Homes Toward Fire-Prone Areas
-California's Fire Catastrophe Is Largely a Result of Bad Government Policies
-The L.A. Fires Are a Natural Disaster, Not a Policy Disaster
-How Awful Policies Fueled the L.A. Fires
(sings) One of these things is not like the others...
Y'know Christian, they could really use all that water you're carrying for them.
Arson committed by mentally ill, meth-addicted homeless losers is a "natural disaster"? Interesting take bro.
You're a "reporter"? Really? Sounds an awful lot like uninformed opinion to me.
Reason doesn't journalism much. They're more about sloppy, half-researched infotainment. That's what makes them so edgy.
Pointing out California's (read: Democrat's) culpability for this mess would be victim-blaming. Sure, they wore a super short skirt with no panties and a tube top that says "Cum Dumpster" to a gang-rape convention. But that doesn't make it THEIR fault.
One of the worst problems for this was the mass insurance withdrawal earlier this year. So many people have lost everything with no method of rebuilding. That is 100% policy.
Water shortages are exacerbated by natural disasters, but this is a problem that has been well known and they did not expec
If you had said that this is far too soon to be putting out blame, I would agree, if not for the fact that this is standard practice. Gore was blaming Exxon for Katrina before the floodwaters even retreated. So while I find it in poor taste, I can't condemn it.
It's not the insurers' fault for backing out of terrible California policies that would put them out of business. And they wouldn't be able to do anything to stop the government's terrible management, only rebuild after all the damages are done.
The LA and California leadership can blame no one but themselves for the disaster.
The L.A. Fires Are a Natural Disaster exasperated numerous Policy Disasters.
Some of these fires are due to arson. Plain and simple. Homeless, drug addicted and dangerously crazy these people start fire after fire
Now add into the mixture incompetent, ignorant ideological morons who literally tear down everything in the name of DEI. Elect ignorant stupid people as Mayors just because deys be all black an shit, then replace competent people in key positions with ideologs such as black lesbians , remove competent people from the fire department because deys be all white males an shit, replace them with persons who are obviously unfit for the job, too stupid and too unqualified for anything except a fast food position.
Then add everyone from the Governor on down to the fire chief all of whom are dangerously incompetent, stupid and either delusional or just plain malicious.
There's plenty of blame to go around to a lot of people including the idiots who voted for these clowns.
You have no right to complain.
Hey, when you have disastrous governments like CA and LA, this *IS* a natural disaster; those governments are incapable of doing anything else.
Not even the LA times agree with this view. Maybe go do some research.