The Improbable Rise of MAGA-Musk
Is Elon Musk a reactionary with a defective bullshit meter or the best part of the second Trump administration?

It was the most indelible image of the 2024 presidential campaign: Donald Trump on a stage in Butler, Pennsylvania, right fist raised in defiance over a scrum of Secret Service agents, blood streaming from a bullet wound to the ear, shouting, "Fight! Fight! Fight!"
One of the millions of people moved by that moment was the world's richest man, the industrialist and futurist Elon Musk. Musk—America's most famous immigrant—runs, among other companies, Tesla, which sells the majority of electric cars in the U.S.; SpaceX, developer of the first-ever reusable booster rocket and also the only reliable transport for astronauts to and from the International Space Station; and X (formerly known as Twitter), one of the globe's most-discussed and influential social media platforms.
In the immediate aftermath of the assassination attempt, Musk publicized what until then had been more of a private affair: his enthusiastic support for a return to the White House of a man of whom he had previously been frequently intensely critical.
Thus the stage was set for a second indelible campaign image, one that may prove more telling about the practical import of the 2024 election. In October, Trump was back in Butler at the scene of the crime, paying respects to the slain rally attendee Corey Comperatore and urging his supporters to fight-fight-fight until Election Day.
Behind him, airborne, giddy, and goofy, bounced the world's most successful civilian, reducing himself to a dignity-free cheerleader for a politician he once dismissed as a "con man." It was the dance that launched a thousand derisive memes, but it also arguably purchased key White House access for an influential figure with a gigantic megaphone, who in his public life has nurtured, acted upon, and celebrated many contrarian political ideas, some of them libertarian.
Musk spent more than $132 million of his own money to help Republicans win in 2024, including around $75 million to a political action committee called America PAC that essentially took over whole chunks of Trump's ground game. He appeared at campaign rallies; he argued on X that a vote for Trump was the last, best hope for the American experiment; and then, after the election, he fused himself to the president-elect's side, wolfing down fast food, participating in phone calls with world leaders, and kibbitzing on staff decisions.
In mid-November came the prize: Musk, along with former presidential candidate and fellow tech-world booster Vivek Ramaswamy, would head a nongovernmental commission called—at Musk's cheeky suggestion—the Department of Government Efficiency, or DOGE. Resemblance to the surprisingly lucrative memecoin that Musk has long promoted was purely noncoincidental.
History is littered with government-reorganization task forces that go nowhere. But Musk does have Trump's ear (for the moment, anyway—the president is not known for his long, healthy working relationships), and he and Ramaswamy have been meeting with the state-slashing likes of Argentine President Javier Milei. They have also been serially reposting clips of Milton Friedman talking about eliminating swaths of the federal government. In a joint Wall Street Journal op-ed published November 20, the two laid out a legally plausible roadmap for significantly reducing the administrative state via executive orders. All Trump would need to do is sign. "The entrenched and ever-growing bureaucracy represents an existential threat to our republic," the duo wrote, "and politicians have abetted it for too long."
Musk's antipathy toward government spending and indebtedness—at least when that spending is not enriching one of Musk's companies—differs sharply from the track record of the 45th president, who jacked up both. The prospect of Friedmanites steering Trump down a different road the second time around may be the biggest reason libertarians have to believe at least something good might come from the new administration, otherwise burdened with Trump's obsessions with tariffs and migrants. At the same time, the combination of the president's mercurial nature and Musk's recent fondness for apocalyptic culture war trolling may divert his Washington energies into something a good deal less beneficial.
For years, Musk has been obsessed with Isaac Asimov's "zeroth" law of robotics, which stipulates that a robot must not through inaction allow humanity to come to harm. This insight has underpinned his many futurist endeavors: renewable energy to power a mighty civilization without befouling its own nest, rockets to ensure mankind has a future even beyond the life span of our planet of origin, brain-computer interfaces (through Neuralink) to transcend physical limitations. Many vehemently disagree, but Musk seems to sincerely believe that getting Trump elected was vital for the healthy future of the human race. Now he's working to turn that belief into reality.
The Road to Trump
Musk used to be publicly apolitical, outside his loud skirmishing with government regulators. (Since he has been a businessman in the payments, rockets, and car spaces, such clashes have been frequent.) "When I got into the company, there was a heavy, heavy focus on batteries," one former high-level Tesla employee recalls. "He never brought up politics in meetings except with regards for regulations."
Musk had a reputation, Kate Conger and Ryan Mac write in their new book Character Limit, as "a libertarian with liberal tendencies, a business scion who backed Obama." Especially with Tesla, he coded as environmentalist-progressive, positioning his company "to help expedite the move from a mine-and-burn hydrocarbon economy toward a solar electric economy."
During the 2016 presidential campaign, the entrepreneur lamented to MSNBC that the Republican nominee "doesn't seem to have the sort of character that reflects well on the United States." After Trump won, Musk did join with other tech executives at a meeting with the president-elect, and he later volunteered for a White House business council, even while continuing to say things like (per Walter Isaacson's 2023 biography Elon Musk) "Trump might be one of the best bullshitters ever" and "if you just think of Trump as…a con-man performance, then his behavior sort of makes sense."
Musk quit the White House business council in June 2017 to protest the president withdrawing from the Paris Agreement on global carbon reduction. In 2018, he told tech journalist Kara Swisher that it had been a mistake for tech execs to kiss Trump's ring before inauguration. Even as late as 2022, after he acquired Twitter, Musk complained to Isaacson that Trump (who had been banned from the platform after the Capitol riot of January 6, 2021) exploited "free speech to subvert democracy."
The steps to Musk's subsequent MAGA-ization have been reasonably well-documented, not only in the journalistic attention he inevitably attracts, but because for years, even before he owned it, Musk has used the platform formerly known as Twitter to reveal virtually every twist of his thought.
His first turn to the explicit right was precipitated by government COVID-19 policies, Conger and Mac believe. On a Tesla earnings call in April 2020, Musk condemned lockdowns and the coerced closings of businesses and churches as "fascist," saying: "This is not democratic. This is not freedom. Give people back their goddamn freedom." He asked to be the first person arrested when he reopened his Tesla factory in Fremont, California, in violation of local lockdown orders. (There were no arrests.) In May, he tweeted an exhortation to "take the red pill," memespeak (based on The Matrix) for being willing to discover that the perceived world around you is an elaborate hoax concocted by a malevolent, controlling elite.
Musk himself credits his radicalization to the gender transition of his daughter, Vivian Wilson, who has disowned him. "My son Xavier is dead, killed by the woke mind virus," he lamented to the popular psychologist and podcaster Jordan Peterson in July 2024. Since then, Musk continued, he has "vowed to destroy the woke mind virus…and I'm making some progress."
Precisely what constitutes the "woke mind virus" is open for interpretation, but Musk says that destroying it would help make America again the "meritocracy" he believes it once was, with no special consideration for race, gender, or any of the classifications and practices that fall under "Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion"—frequently abbreviated as DEI, but Musk prefers "DIE," since he believes such policies are endangering humanity by placing unqualified people in life-and-death jobs.
Musk's voyage to the right was further accelerated by his ejection from the left. President Joe Biden, irritated by the manufacturer's stance against unionization, pointedly did not invite the market leader to an August 2021 White House summit honoring electric vehicle producers. "Given unprovoked attacks by leading Democrats against me & a very cold shoulder to Tesla & SpaceX," Musk announced in May 2022, he now intended to vote Republican. That November, Biden warned that "Musk's cooperation and, or, technical relationships with other countries is worthy of being looked at," a reference to the entrepreneur's globe-straddling business ties to states such as China, Saudi Arabia, and particularly Russia. "Elon Musk," warned the establishment-liberal website Slate in August 2024, "is a threat to international peace."
Neoreactionary Trolling
Since taking over Twitter, Musk has regularly boosted, echoed, and embraced thoughts and thinkers commonly classified (often by the practitioners themselves) under the ideological category "neoreaction," which roughly thinks a domineering, censurious machine of progressive thought control has ruined the West with dangerously wrong beliefs in things such as democracy, cosmopolitanism, and equality of the sexes or races.
Gleefully fixated on such topics as immigration, gender bending, and street crime, neoreactionaries don't just tiptoe up to the line of conventionally acceptable discourse; they stampede across it, at every step mocking what they see as liberal pieties. It is here, and not in his more libertarian beliefs about the government's role and efficiency, where Musk's X-age persona is routinely classified by the left as an insidious and possibly fascist public menace.
Musk over the past two years has characterized as an "interesting observation" the argument that "a Republic of high status males is best for decision making," has agreed with the notion that "Democracy is probably unworkable long term without limiting suffrage to parents," and has responded to Taylor Swift's endorsement of Kamala Harris by offering to impregnate the childless singer. He tweeted an exclamation point while reposting the false claim that "Blacks kill nearly 1,500 more whites each year than whites kill blacks" (the number is less than a third of that), and he responded positively to a tweet by the same account alleging that graduates from historically black colleges and universities have IQs "within 10 points of the threshold for what is considered 'borderline intellectual impairment.'" He described as "the actual truth" the claim that "Jewish [communities] have been pushing the exact kind of dialectical hatred against whites that they claim to want people to stop using against them." He's become the sort of poster very concerned that nonwhite actors often get cast playing characters who are white in the original comics.
Musk warned just prior to the election that if Harris won, she (or the "puppet regime" controlling her) would shut X down and throw him in prison. "There isn't just any one puppet master," Musk posited in an October stump speech. "It's more like there's a thousand….It's just obvious that Biden is not in charge. It's obvious that Kamala is not in charge. I mean, they just replaced the Biden puppet with the Kamala puppet….It'd be interesting to see the crossover between the [Jeffrey] Epstein client list and Kamala's puppet masters."
Such conspiratorial insult comedy has triggered thunderous condemnation from people inside what neoreactionaries call "the Cathedral"—that monolithic (in their view) force in media, academia, and government that enforces leftist ideologies, cultural preferences, and managerial perquisites through conformist peer pressure. "Musk is uniquely dangerous," MSNBC host Chris Hayes charged in October, in part because "he made [X] an absolute vector for misinformation and neo-Nazi bigotry."
In the pre-X days, "There was nothing political about him ever," a "close associate" of Musk's told Ronan Farrow for a 2023 New Yorker story. "I've been around him for a long time, and had lots of deep conversations with the man, at all hours of the day—never heard a fucking word about this."
Partly because Musk upended the cocky view that everyone significant or accomplished should fully embrace progressive or at the very least mainstream Democratic politics—and partly because he runs a platform that allows the spread of ideas, stories, and perspectives outside progressive control—it has become au courant for those sorts to slam him as being just stone dumb. When The New Republic dubbed Musk 2023's "scoundrel of the year," it declared him "not just evil, but deeply stupid, too."
This is patent nonsense: Musk has a clear ability to grasp several complicated worlds. His ongoing success in running difficult and against-the-odds businesses—companies that make one technological breakthrough after another—speaks for itself, and numerous colleagues have averred to journalists that he is generally an active and helpful participant in decision making, not merely a guy who made smart or lucky hires.
But when he enters political discourse, Musk's bullshit meter is poorly calibrated. He is credulous on a daily basis when coming across information, regardless of source, that marks his political enemies as absurd or sinister. He posted, and later deleted, an assertion that the Pizzagate conspiracy theory about an elite pedophile ring being conducted out of the basement of a D.C. restaurant "is real." He posted, and later deleted, a link to an article alleging baselessly that Nancy Pelosi's husband Paul had been assaulted in his home by a gay lover. He cast aspersions at campaign rallies on the 2020 election performance of Dominion voting machines, a line of argument that cost Fox News $787.5 million in settlement money. The Washington Post has reported that "50 of Musk's false or misleading claims about the U.S. election between Jan. 1 and July 31 were debunked by independent fact-checkers." To a certain strain in the red-pilled right, true perspicaciousness comes from merely understanding that Democratic or progressive political and cultural elites are just the types to do any baroquely sinister thing you can imagine; the specifics of the rigorously proven facts about any given accusation are far less important.
The anti-Musk ranks in journalism and academia routinely engage in conspiratorial nonsense of their own. "Musk's Starlink uploaded votes in swing states," the political commentator (and former adjunct professor at George Washington University's graduate school of political management) Cheri Jacobus posted on Threads after the election. "Swing state voters went Dem downballot but Trump at the top? [Unlikely]." An October Wall Street Journal article on Musk's "secret conversations with Vladimir Putin" triggered a fusillade of speculation about him "taking orders" from the Kremlin, with former MSNBC host Keith Olbermann posting on Musk's X that "We need to arrest and detain @elonmusk immediately. He is operating on behalf of Russia. Cancel all contracts, seize his facilities, lock him away in a military facility." With great megaphones, and wild aim, comes great controversy.
How Free Can Speech Be?
Throughout the presidential campaign, Musk portrayed the election as a final stand against the relentless drive toward Democratic thought control. "This is a must-win situation," he said in Butler. "This is no ordinary election. The other side wants to take away your freedom of speech. They want to take away your right to bear arms. They want to take away your right to vote."
Yet his own actions before and after November 5 demonstrate that Musk's commitment to untrammeled free speech is not as strong as he likes to pretend.
Months after purchasing Twitter, Musk gave a few reporters access to his new acquisition's voluminous correspondence with the federal government. The ensuing Twitter Files, reported by Matt Taibbi, Bari Weiss, Michael Shellenberger, and others, revealed a pervasive pressure campaign on social media platforms to censor COVID-related content. (He was also, rightly, angry at the previous owners going along with throttling access to stories about Hunter Biden's laptop revelations.) But even as he denounced Twitter's past owners, Musk proved that no business that wants to stay legal around the globe and to woo advertisers can function as a zone of total free speech.
According to the Berkman Klein Center for Internet and Society at Harvard Law School, in the first half-year of Musk's ownership, Twitter acceded at least in part to more than 98 percent of the approximately 1,000 censorship requests by various governments (with Turkey, Germany, and India leading the way). The restrictions on users and their speech weren't just overseas: "In the first six months of this year," Fortune reported in September 2024 based on one of X's own transparency reports, "the social network has suspended 5.3 million accounts, compared to 1.6 million in the first half of 2022." (X reported that 2.7 million of those suspensions were for "child safety" reasons, and those numbers did not include spambots, 464 million of which Fortune reports were nuked in that period.)
Musk has used what Trumpists in other contexts like to call "lawfare" to punish the speech and actions of those trying to dissuade advertisers from spending money on X. He has filed suits against the Center for Countering Digital Hate (CCDH), Media Matters for America, and the World Federation of Advertisers for allegedly damaging X's bottom line through pressure campaigns. U.S. District Court Judge Charles Breyer dismissed the CCDH suit in March 2024, writing in his order that the effort was "unabashedly and vociferously about one thing": punishing the nonprofit for its speech. No matter: Two days after the election, Musk, now with much more pull in Washington, tweeted that the group "should be prosecuted for interference in US elections by a foreign entity, among their many crimes."
Fellow Trump contributor, tech thought leader, and erstwhile free-speech supporter Marc Andreessen agreed, tweeting that the "orchestrated advertiser boycott against X and popular podcasts must end immediately. Conspiracy in restraint of trade is a prosecutable crime."
Musk's deregulatory rhetoric at DOGE is in direct conflict not only with his selective punitiveness toward people who use speech in ways he dislikes, but with Trump's many threats (some backed by personal lawsuits) against journalism companies and broadcast licensees who produce content he disfavors. Milton Friedman once said that "One of the worst things we have is the control by FCC [the Federal Communications Commission] of radio and television." Now, as his acolytes talk about slashing government, Trump is nominating as FCC chair Brendan Carr, a man who warned after the election that "media companies are required by law to operate in the public interest. If they don't, they are going to be held accountable."
Musk vs. Government
Musk's more libertarian side, which sees government as doing things poorly that it ought not do at all, is easily understood through his own experience with regulators.
Stories abound of his goals—his civilization-saving goals, as he sees it—made more difficult and costly than necessary. He launched a rocket in 2020 against the will of the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA), which had warned that wind patterns created a risk that the rocket could shatter some house windows if it exploded. Rather than fining him (since Musk "could pull that out of his pocket," the FAA's Wayne Monteith told The New Yorker), the agency grounded SpaceX from launching for two months. (In the event, no harm came from the unauthorized takeoff, even though the rocket indeed exploded.)
"The FAA space division has a fundamentally broken regulatory structure," Musk has concluded. "Under those rules, humanity will never get to Mars."
In September 2024, SpaceX posted on its website a detailed critique of how it is misregulated, insisting that "the licensing process has been repeatedly derailed by issues ranging from the frivolous to the patently absurd." At times, the company complained, "these roadblocks have been driven by false and misleading reporting, built on bad-faith hysterics from online detractors or special interest groups who have presented poorly constructed science as fact," often involving "superfluous environmental analysis" on matters such as water runoff quality, and 60-day delays over what marine life might be harmed by rockets upon splashdown.
Musk's other businesses are also in constant conflict with government. The Federal Trade Commission (FTC) is still enforcing a consent decree it imposed on X's previous owners over the platform's allegedly insufficient protection of customer personal information. Tesla's ability to sell cars is bedeviled across the country by laws restricting direct-to-consumer sales to licensed car dealers. A Delaware court in 2024 denied Musk the compensation package that Tesla's board had agreed to give him back in 2018, even after an initial judicial injunction prompted shareholders to reapprove the package. (One of the goals Musk met to earn his $48 billion was getting Tesla's market value to grow more than 10 times since 2018, to $650 billion.) The National Labor Relations Board (NLRB) leaned on him when he fired SpaceX employees for what they claimed was speaking out about bad behavior on Musk's part. (SpaceX is itself suing the NLRB, claiming that its administrative structure unconstitutionally denies the president sufficient power to discipline its internal judges.)
The Securities and Exchange Commission famously fined Musk in 2018 when he made jokey tweets about taking Tesla private at a cost of $420 per share (a coded reference to pot), which cost the man and the company $20 million apiece. The Equal Employment Opportunity Commission has sued Tesla for alleged racial harassment at its Fremont plant. The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration is looking into Tesla's "full self-driving" safety data.
Musk has good reason to suspect that government and media forces are out to get him. In January 2024, a European Union commissioner speaking at the World Economic Forum threatened him with "sanctions" for not censoring X posts to her satisfaction. Brazil shut down X in 2024 for more than a month over its demands that he take certain posts down. Britain's justice minister declared it "unacceptable" for Musk to post, following some immigrant-related rioting, that he thought civil war in the U.K. was inevitable.
As much as he has butted heads with government, and now seeks to slash the regulatory state by a third, Musk has also benefited from the state, as his enemies relentlessly point out. The government, primarily the military, was the first and biggest client to pay for SpaceX's services; the company received its first billion-dollar contract from NASA in 2008 to ferry astronauts and equipment to the International Space Station. Tesla has enjoyed Department of Energy loan guarantees, subsidies for customer purchases, state-level subsidies and tax incentives for placing factories, and government-created markets in zero-emission credits.
As The New York Times reported in October 2024, Musk's companies in 2023 were promised $3 billion in government money over nearly 100 contracts with 17 federal agencies. Politico estimated that same month that over their histories, SpaceX and Tesla combined have received over $14 billion in federal contracts.
Will MAGA-Musk Destroy the Old Musk?
Many fans of Musk the cool, visionary industrialist/futurist have despaired over how going full MAGA will ruin his reputation. One ex-Tesla employee, who says he was was "high-level" (but has no reason to think Musk would remember him personally), quit over not wanting to be associated with what Musk now stands for politically. Still, even he isn't sure it will matter that much in the long run for Musk's reputation and impact on humanity.
"Sure, he's guilty of a bunch of logical fallacies and acting like a 13-year-old 4chan idiot," says this former employee. "I think it's unfortunate that he has become this. But I don't think it's going to destroy the good that he has done or could do for the causes of battery tech and electric cars and a green future and getting off Earth and all that. I hope not."
Musk still shows, at any rate, some signs of independence from a complete Trumpist agenda. In August, he talked with Trump on X for more than two hours, along the way saying many things that sounded far more libertarian than MAGA. Cutting government overspending, he insisted, was the key to beating back inflation. Consumers would benefit from faster drug approval by the Food and Drug Administration, rather than the pharma-distrusting gear grinding preferred by the likes of Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
Appearing on Joe Rogan's podcast the day before the election, Musk made a proactive case for global free trade, arguing that any Trumpian tariff increases needed to be slow so as not to disrupt existing business plans and supply chains, and gently educating Rogan on the economic truths of comparative advantage when America's most popular podcaster expressed the belief that surely it's best if we make everything we need at home. Yet after Trump announced on November 25 that he would impose a 25 percent tariff on Canada and Mexico until no more drugs and illegal immigrants crossed America's borders, Musk predicted the policy "will be highly effective." (Many who don't actually want the economic effects of tariffs nonetheless toe a Trump line that threatening them will get desired policy outcomes.)
Contradictions and all, Musk may be the brightest spot for libertarians in the second Trump administration. His instinct to cut regulations that prevent good things from happening at a reasonable price and pace is good, as is his urge to prioritize huge spending cuts. Given Trump's track record and campaign emphases, Musk's influence may be the only hope for serious spending cuts over the next four years.
DOGE will have no specific policy powers. Still, Musk has very grand goals: A "Department of Government Efficiency is the only path to extending life beyond Earth," he wrote on X in September. He believes he can cut a couple of trillion dollars from the federal government, which would bring spending back to the level of only five or so years ago. Mercatus Center analyst and Reason columnist Veronique de Rugy thinks block grants to states and subsidies to private businesses would be the richest veins for pure government-shrinking gold, and the DOGE project opens up possibilities for seriously rethinking what the federal government ought to be doing at all.
Musk has a grandiose sense of himself and his companies as indispensable nodes in humanity's progress. His history as an industrialist is full of stories about pushing the limits, doing more with less. He did manage to eliminate more than half of old Twitter's staff, and the rebranded site still functions reasonably well, even if at least hundreds of thousands of users unhappy with Musk have left.
Musk is also famous for overpromising, and for being far too optimistic about timetables. Even if he makes a concerted attempt to cut federal spending by a third, it's unlikely that target will be met within the length of Trump's second term.
But the key to his possible success may be his very status as an outside disruptor. As he told a reporter profiling him for Salon back in 1999, years before SpaceX and Tesla, "I've found that being an outsider helps you to think creatively about improving the way things are done. When people have been doing things the same way for years, they stop questioning their methods even if they defy common sense."
Musk might be the only government-cutting voice Trump trusts. He and Ramaswamy now have until a self-imposed deadline of July 4, 2026—America's 250th anniversary—to make deregulation and spending cuts great again.
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Old Musk and MAGA-Musk are one and the same; Elon Musk. This bullshit dichotomy Doherty is pushing reads like gossip column. Elon Musk's accomplishments across several different industries speak for themselves. He is once in a generation (or millennium). Thank God he is an American.
The best outcome, to me, is a mass reduction in the size and scope of the federal government, via DOGE. Even Pres Reagan could not reduce the size of the Federal government.
Doherty is just feeling the same sense of betrayal that everyone else on the Left is that Musk left the reservation. How dare he be enthusiastic over the Trump campaign!
The left isn't allowed to debate a topic. They have to believe all religious dogma of the left.
But totally not a cult.
And they believe in diversity……… of their ideas, and their narratives.
Their democracy.
Same language as Stalin.
https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1937/12/11.htm
Damn
From Stalin's speech:
"Universal elections exist and are held in some capitalist countries, too, so-called democratic countries. But in what atmosphere are elections held there? In an atmosphere 0f class conflicts, in an atmosphere of class enmity, in an atmosphere of pressure brought to bear on the electors by the capitalists, landlords, bankers and other capitalist sharks. Such elections, even if they are universal, equal, secret and direct, cannot be called altogether free and altogether democratic elections."
Now just replace all mentions of "class" with "race and gender", and see if it sounds familiar.
Totally Totally not a cult featuring Isaac Asimov as President for seven years.
Worse, how dare he criticize and defy the left narratives, dogma, and tribal goal of world domination!
"Doherty is just feeling the same sense of betrayal that everyone else on the Left is that Musk left the reservation. How dare he be enthusiastic over the Trump campaign!"
100% This. He's not been just a blasphemer, he's a heretic. He's been pulling down idols in the temple and showing the grubby little priests behind them who're making the limbs move and the eyes flash.
And his criticism of Musk buying Twitter is beyond pathetic. Right off the bat he tips his hand to the real reason he's mad about it.
"Musk has used the platform formerly known as Twitter to reveal virtually every twist of his thought."
That's right. Mean tweets. The exact same reason the KMW junta went after Trump.
Doherty doesn't mention one word about the fact that Musk exposed the fact that the CIA and FBI actually had employees positioned in the offices of the social media and were working with Twitter staff to actively censor political and medical posts that contradicted narratives.
I mean this is only the biggest abuse of the citizens right to free speech in the history of the republic by its government, and we get a half paragraph, mealy-mouthed "Some people did some things" about what Musk exposed:
"a pressure campaign on social media platforms to censor COVID-related content"
Just so fucking dishonest.
"Old Musk and MAGA-Musk are one and the same; Elon Musk."
Demon-Craps can SNOT be forgiven for flip-flopping or changing their so-called "minds"! Biden, for instance, was a gung-ho drug warrior, then a reformer... And then he didn't do jack diddly squat for reforming the drug war, except for getting Hunter off of the hook!
Now if the flip-flop favors "Team R", then that's totes OK, or the flip-flop doesn't even exist!
(I do wish that the new MAGA would actually succeed in axing a few limbs off of Government Almighty. I'm not holding my breath.)
Agreed. He may not be correct on every detail but his overarching goals are saving/improving the species. That requires more than just amazing technological advances. It requires identifying and opposing malign cultural and political influences. Whether it's censorship or fertility rates or the Marxist degradation of western civilization. So yeah, thank God he's an American.
An African-American!
Charlize Theron is African-American.
Autistic.
And a weasel
How do you tell the difference between an autistic weasel and a drunk weasel?
It’s difficult when our weasel is both.
Setting him in fire might sus out the difference.
It’s worth a try,
2nd
Charlize Theron is autistic? How so, Oh Great And Wise JesseSPAZ? Citation(s)?
and X (formerly known as Twitter)
Stop doing this!
He's a flake, sometimes awfully so, and a successful businessman, who has revolutionized the space industry. I think he's the reincarnation of Henry Ford, equally flaky and brilliant. I wouldn't want either as a part of government, but we need both.
One can only hope more of the people will realize (take the red pill) that the left is "Fascist. This is not democratic. This is not freedom. Give people back their goddamn freedom."
As-if it shouldn't have done so with more people when Democrats came out as the party of [Na]tional (Federal) So[zi]alist[s]. Or the party of Progressive (i.e. Aggressive) Gov 'Guns' usage. Or the party that champions [WE] Identify-as RULES absolutely 'democracy'.
The very reason the USA is/was so great is because it is a *Constitutional* Republic. Democrats have done nothing but constantly tried to Re-Define it into a Democratic Fascist-Nazi Empire with all the "[WE] Identify-as" emotional-gang crimes scattered throughout history. And all the 'King-Status' UN-earned wealth inequality (D.C. @ over-2 to 5-times everyone else) to boot.
Democrats can either get inline with a *Constitutional* Republic or they should be treated as Nazi traitors attempting to conquer and consume the USA because that really is the bottom-line of what their policies are doing.
'Guns' (Gov-Guns) do NOT make sh*t.
Believing they can/do is exactly how Democrats turned to Nazism.
Too many people need to take a good look at their political ideology and stop doing the monkey-see monkey-do brainless 'group-think' response when it comes to how Gov-Guns get used.
Year in a word: Fascism
The right-wing ideology is no longer confined to the dark underbelly of history
...
Historians of the 1930s, however, do believe that Trump and some other world leaders — such as Vladimir Putin and Xi Jinping — are reviving aspects of the fascist tradition. Ultra-nationalism, the cult of the leader and contempt for liberal values are back in fashion around the world — not just in America.
https://www.ft.com/content/5b2c1410-3645-46cf-982d-c2a4ac95cc4c
WORD OF THE YEAR!
Your dumb ass never fails!
turd, the TDS-addled ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
And the lying pile of shit turd seems to think citing an asshole equally stupid and dishonest proves something.
These experts being retarded leftists trying to project their regulatory control of corporations to push government action onto the right to trick dumb motherfuckers named shrike and sarc?
Hey buddy. NYT just came out Joe is going to use an obscure old law to end leases in the gulf for energy extraction. You'll probably be here tomorrow trying to give him credit for energy expansion again. Because you're a dumb leftist.
Joe just said he's going to give Hillary and George Soros the Presidential Medal of Freedom.
Buttplug was so happy he accidentally let a kid in the basement escape.
Democrats continue to out-parody the Bee.
Just 16 more days left of middle fingers to the country to endure from this demented fucking asshole.
I still don't think Trump is going to make it, and I am becoming increasingly convinced that Vance and Musk aren't going to either.
The machine just doesn't give a shit anymore, and all its old tricks, like the above Doherty column for example, have stopped working.
I was saying here back in the summer that Trump would not be permitted to be president again, regardless of the outcome of the election. I'm still concerned I might have been right. They've already tried to kill him at least twice, and the Secret Service is clearly compromised.
It takes more than 2 years of litigation to get anything (conservative reforms) past the lawfare of the Dems, dem lawyers and dem judges in hand-picked jurisdictions where all Trumps initiatives will be fought. They may just take a pass on their most evil instincts and rely on the infrastructure (bureacratic and judicial) that they've so painstakingly built over the last 60 years to outlast Trump. At this stage any 'natural causes' or 'accidents' will be attributed to the deep state and cause more trouble for them. I can see the tall foreheads advising the patient approach. Stymie, delay, litigate until his term is over.
“When I use a word… it means just what I choose it to mean – neither more nor less.”
And even when lots of Serious People say the same thing, and especially when they contrive to speak together in order to sway public opinion and appeal to base human nature, it does not change reality.
Fascism is not nationalism, and nationalism is not fascism. Fascism emerged in the 20th century from combining socialism and nationalism. Mussolini was literally part of the Italian socialist movement, and when that failed helped to lead the rebranding into fascism. And, as you well know, German Nazis had socialism IN THEIR FUCKING NAME.
Sure, it was convenient during WWII to cast fascist and socialist regimes as opposites, so us dumb Americans could swallow the propaganda about our Soviet ally. But can you tell us any fundamental differences between Germany in the 1930s (or after) and the USSR? And make the claim that they are in any way on opposite ends of a simple-minded political spectrum?
The USSR was communist and (ostensibly) pushed EQUALITY - "to each according to their needs".
Nazis openly favored Aryans so much they murdered non-Aryans.
*****It is fucking amazing that you conservatives are so stupid that you leave out the Aryan Supremacy in the definition of fascism *******
Likewise fascist Italy elevated their national history.
turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
turd lies. turd is a lying pile of TDS-addled lefty shit and a pederast besides.
If you want to get pedantic (in addition to your pedo-antic proclivities) ...
Mussolini founded Fascism. Hitler was a National Socialist, NOT a Fascist. They are different, just as Bolsheviks and Mensheviks were different. And Communists were not communists.
And that's just the very broad strokes. I'm not diving into detail, because I would get it wronger than you get the broad strokes. Oh wait, you don't do broad strokes, you do pedo strokes.
Hitler was NOT a fascist?
You're too stupid to debate.
You’re too stupid not to get banned for posting links to child porn. Now turn yourself in for your crimes against children.
He was a national socialist. Mussolini was a fascist. There's differences, one of which is the racially based view of the nation. Mussolini was pushing for a restoration of the Roman Empire, and Italy was much more cosmopolitan than Germany, so his views on race were quite different. Empires are inherently multinational and multiracial so he wasn't trying to organize the world along purely racial lines.
It was only after the alliance with Hitler when Italy was trapped on that course that Italy allowed the deportation of Jews.
Oh man, you poor soul, now you're too stupid to debate buttplug too.
Historians and political scientists everywhere are now too stupid to debate Buttplug.
Who would of guessed a pedophilic klansman knew more than them.
Mussolini was pushing for a restoration of the Roman Empire,
And Hitler wanted to restore the Reich - because Aryan Supremacy.
Nazism is classic fascism you idiot.
AI :
Yes, a Nazi is considered a fascist, as Nazism is a specific, extreme form of fascism characterized by its particularly virulent antisemitism, racial ideology, and focus on Aryan supremacy, which sets it apart from other fascist movements, but still shares core fascist characteristics like extreme nationalism, authoritarianism, and a disdain for democracy.
My point is that the Roman Empire was very cosmopolitan, whereas the idea of Reich, or any German Empire, was racially based in Hitler's view. Italy was a Mediterranean power, where Germany was a land based power, and the population of Italy was defined by the various interactions with Greece, Egypt, Turkey, Spain, and North Africa as a result of their position. Mussolini isn't pushing for a specific type of race-based state because he wants to expand and colonize, in Ethiopia, Albania, Greece, Egypt, the Levant, etc. He's not planning to wipe out native populations in those areas like Hitler was planning to do with the Slavic populations in the eastern territories he conquered.
It comes from different cultural sensibilities that a person in Italy is going to have that a German speaker will not. Mussolini was certainly totalitarian in his control of the economy, but his view of Italians included significant minority populations due to the nature of his country. Hitler was focused on race, while Mussolini was focused on the idea of Empire.
The Plug is unteachable. You might as well lecture the trees in your yard.
AI
Fucking Omegalul, the retard cites AI as authoritative.
Well even if he cited most mainstream historians, they wouldn't argue the point that national socialism is just fascism. It became a consensus starting during the war (pushed by the Soviet Union, who found it easier to just call their opponents fascists for propaganda purposes than trying to paint within the lines of the difference between national socialism and international socialism).
That's why fascism is such a vaguely defined term that includes some of Mussolini's philosophy intermixed with what Hitler believed, and also paints with such a broad brush that it tends to include Japan despite Japanese political thought just not even operating in the same way. Fascism is actually a rather specific thing that Mussolini was into, while National Socialism is Hitler's racist take on a socialist utopia. It was supposed to be German utopia, instead of a Worker's utopia, but it still operated on socialist principles. That's why one of the first things they did, after coming to power in 1933, was to abolish private property rights guaranteed by the Weimar constitution.
Sure, they didn't seize ALL private property (though they did seize a lot), but they just told private businesses what decisions they were allowed to make, including how much material they were allowed to purchase, how many units they were ordered to produce, and the price at which they were ordered to sell. And if they refused or failed, they were fined to such a degree they lost ownership of the company, which was then given to a member of the Nazi Party. It was a socialist economy under a party that called themselves socialists. I don't know how much more socialist you can get.
But can you tell us any fundamental differences between Germany in the 1930s (or after) and the USSR?
Germany had private property. USSR did not.
While the Germany government did do command-and-control in some sectors of the economy, it left other parts of it alone. Whereas the USSR micromanaged every aspect of their economy.
So there's two, and I think they're both pretty fundamental.
How many times do we have to give you the writings of Mussolini to show he was saving socialists from the failed communist system, but still had the same desire for control. Controlling society through regulatory conditions is still control. China is currently set up much like Italian fascism, controlling capital, requiring party members on boards, etc.
You and shrike have this retarded need to pretend the goals are different when just the tools are. This is mostly to distract from your precious democrats seeking the same controls.
You've been doing this gor years at this point while making excuses for the left.
https://reason.com/2023/12/12/texas-abortion-law-test/?comments=true#comment-10354105
Primary sources don't educate you. Actual definitions dont educate you.
You're just a dumb narrative pusher of the left at this point.
Controlling society through regulatory conditions is still control.
You are dishonestly equating regulatory control with command and control. They are not the same thing. But you equate them because you are a liar.
China is currently set up much like Italian fascism, controlling capital, requiring party members on boards, etc.
Once again you're doing the same thing. China used to be command and control. As a result of market reforms they relaxed those controls and now allow private property, and don't engage in total micromanagement of the economy.
Can you make a point without lying? (That's a rhetorical question because everyone knows the answer is no.)
Oh, regulatory controls are just suggestions, not commands?
I really thought you were smart enough to understand the difference between communist command and control, and regulatory control.
Guess I was wrong.
And what would the differences look like? Government determination of economic activity, including production and distribution (and prices). Powerful people in charge of industries who live privileged lives as long as they obey. Workers who are essentially peasants. Consumers who get what the government decides.
Tell us.
You just summarized command-and-control fairly well. You want to see what regulatory control looks like? Look out your window.
I looked out my window and saw that the US government has been engaged in all of those things that Earth-based mentioned to greater or lesser degrees since at least FDR.
The swallowing of this bullshit narrative that adding some nationalism to socialist ideology suddenly makes it right-wing has got to be one of the greatest accomplishments of the left in this country.
Sarc: “It’s not communism if I don’t call it that!”
...and it's never really been tried.
Fascism is a POLITICAL ideology - not an economic one. We already have a name for socialism. We call it Socialism.
The economics of fascism exist to exalt the "pure and glorious past" - The Reich, Rome, MAGA, etc.
Islamo-fascists are among the worst.
^ pedo
In addition to staning for pedo content, the pedo is staning for whitewashing China (the biggest and most successful fascists) of any blame.
Blah blah blah.
And keep making up your own definitions.
The left rages when we don't accept their redefinitions of words.
Lying Jeffy taught him well, redefining words to suit current narratives is one of Jeffy's favorite tricks.
Fascism is a POLITICAL ideology - not an economic one.
Fascism is economic in that the government will order companies to make things. The major difference between fascists telling corporations to build a car and communists telling corporations to build a car is that the fascists let the car makers design it while the communists have politicians design it. So fascism produced the Bug and communism produced the Trabant.
Communism also produced the explosion at Chernobyl. Political Overlards and SNOT technical-business subject-matter experts were in charge! Give tech-wonks a chance, and kick the BUTTS of the FUCKING PARASITICAL POLITICIANS!!!!
The TDS-addled turd certainly is dishonest, but he’s got a heaping helping of stupid to go with his dishonesty. Stupid, lying, despicable steaming pile of lefty shit and proud to be!
"Fascism is a POLITICAL ideology - not an economic one."
How does it feel, always having your lies caught? Never once succeeding. You didn't even manage to trick Sarcasmic with this one.
Fascist Corporatism
Fascist syndicalism
Economic Fascism
The nazis didn't kill as many people as the ussr?
But can you tell us any fundamental differences between Germany in the 1930s (or after) and the USSR?
The USSR and every socialist/communist regime I'm aware of led to poverty and starvation. Hitler and Mussolini both led over periods of economic growth. There was too much going on to draw clear conclusions; the Depression giving way to WWII giving way to the wasting of Europe, especially Germany and to a lesser extent Italy. Both regimes ended up being short-lived so maybe they would have declined eventually like socialist states do. But also in the mix is that fascism allowed private ownership and profits which is better for economic growth.
I don't know enough about Franco's Spain to consider for this thought experiment. Maybe someone that does can chime in.
The USSR and every socialist/communist regime I'm aware of led to poverty and starvation.
Clearly you don't know enough about Nazi Germany if you think this didn't apply there. They simply exported their starvation to occupied territories like Greece, along with starving Jews and Soviet POWs to death to save food while stealing food from the east.
Recommended reading: "The Vampire Economy" by Gunter Reiman. He was writing about how dire the state of the Germany economy was in 1939, before Germany was even at war with anyone. So claiming that there was economic growth under Hitler is like claiming The New Deal saved the USA after the Great Depression. The economy was buoyed by seizing assets, first from the Jewish population, then from Austria, then from Czechoslovakia.
You can read it for free from Mises Institute: https://mises.org/library/book/vampire-economy
OK thanks for the reading suggestion. I'll check out.
Fascism is a bastard child of Marx, and therefore a leftist ideology. So stop with your lies, Kiddie Raper.
^THIS exactly "Fascism is a bastard child of Marx" +100000000.
The stage-word isn't of significance.
Step 1) Socialism (i.e. 'armed-theft' of the 'icky' for the 'lazy/poor').
Step 2) Fascism (i.e. Gov-Gun re-disbursement decisions)
Step 3) Communism (Gov-Guns takes everything)
Step 4) Genocide (Identify-as gangsters) trying to "Get the last twinkie" by killing the 'icky' ones.
Because not a single one of those steps addressed the Supply-side.
Every single of them is focused on 'Gun' DEMAND-side ONLY.
'Guns' don't make sh*t.
All but political stages in the criminal 'armed-theft' government system.
The USA is/was great because the US Constitution LIMITED the amount of 'armed-theft' Gov-Guns could do from everything but a short list of enumerated powers.
I think it's both left and right. Both Fascism and Nazism were definitely socialist, and leftist in that sense. But they also appealed to tradition (some of it made up) and national glory and (especially in Germany) traditional militarism. Which I think makes them also right wing, in the European sense.
Don't kid yourself (i.e. snack on the lefts self-projection).
The [WE] "Identify-as" glory mob-building politics is 100% a left-mentality.
Its as plain as day with their race, gender and class gang-building narratives.
Supporting Individual Liberty and Justice for all with defensive 'Gun' against [WE] Aggressive/Progressives Identify-as gangs is literally the opposite of the aforementioned.
"Year in a word: Fascism"
Yes. I agree 100%. The USA is turning to Fascist-Nazism.
Isn't that precisely what I just said.
Enter your predictable Leftard Self-Projection....
"It's not our [Na]tional So[zi]alist policies creating it!. It's Trump" .......... Now get this ......... because he's "Hollowing out [OUR] public institutions and trying to drain the D.C. swamp!!" ?????????
One second he's a Ulta-Nationalist and the next he's an Insurrectionist? You leftards twist and tumble all over the F'En place but your real bottom-line is quite obvious ..... 'armed-theft' and [WE] Identify-as gangsters RULE! (cultish). Which you also LOVE to self-project on. /s
Yeah, I don't give a fuck. If my choices are moonbats transitioning the kids, or moonbats disappearing into the back of a black van, I'm voting for the black van. Suck on it.
Fascists don't scare me. I've lived under progressives.
I had just finished skimming this from Not The Bee, about tall snowflakes offended by short people asking them to get something off a top shelf.
https://notthebee.com/article/people-are-freaking-out-over-the-latest-microaggression-asking-tall-people-to-reach-things
And I swear, my first thought was, is this a real article? Is Boehm reaching some new low in feeling butt hurt in the third degree because some extremely smart and capable businessman is daring to take a chance on seeing if he can help Trump follow through on his promises to drain the swamp and shrink government, as if it is a crime against humanity worse than misgendering a drag queen?
And it's Doherty! He's usually pretty sane. Read a couple of sentences and said to myself, said I, "I could more profitably write a stupid snarky comment than read this shite on a Saturday morning."
So I wrote this comment instead. How tall are you, Brian Doherty? Did some short fucker microaggress against you in the produce aisle yesterday?
turd, the ass-wipe of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
I think you meant that for Shrike.
Sevo misfired. Shrike's over there ===>
Quick, take another shot.
I mean, it depends on how they ask. Well, OK. It depends on whether they ask, or just order someone to do it. There are some entitled-assed people out there.
Yes it does. I'm just average height, but I've helped short people get things down. All asked nicely and thanked me. Some were pretty cute too.
How about asking a really short person to bender over and pick up something off the bottom shelf? It seems like something a shorty would be better at.
My first reaction reading through this was, "Geeze, Doherty! How many blue pills did you scarf down, anyway?"
Musk's bullshit meter is poorly calibrated. He is credulous on a daily basis when coming across information, regardless of source, that marks his political enemies as absurd or sinister. He posted, and later deleted, an assertion that the Pizzagate conspiracy theory about an elite pedophile ring being conducted out of the basement of a D.C. restaurant "is real." He posted, and later deleted, a link to an article alleging baselessly that Nancy Pelosi's husband Paul had been assaulted in his home by a gay lover. He cast aspersions at campaign rallies on the 2020 election performance of Dominion voting machines, a line of argument that cost Fox News $787.5 million in settlement money. The Washington Post has reported that "50 of Musk's false or misleading claims about the U.S. election between Jan. 1 and July 31 were debunked by independent fact-checkers." To a certain strain in the red-pilled right
Co-President Elon red-pilling means he believes stupid conservative bullshit like they all do. But he was susceptible to stupid shit anyway - see that episode with the divers in Asia.
Just lately 'Leon' (as Donnie butchers his name) has called on King Charles to dissolve Parliament.
That is just plain Sarah Palin stupid (recall when she told a reporter she would contact the Queen of England to help with our war in Iraq).
Elon Musk Accuses Starmer, Asks King Charles III to Dissolve Parliament Over Pakistani 'Grooming Gangs'
Musk alleged that Starmer, who was the Director of Public Prosecutions from 2008 to 2013, did not do enough to bring justice to the victims of 'grooming gangs.'
#LeonQAnonDipshit
Always funny watching the sites biggest BlueAnon supporter try to call out qanon.
I quoted Doherty and Musk, you dumb fuckstick.
Why is Leon/Elon so susceptible to CT bullshit? That idiot even tired to save Alex Jones.
You must eat the same stupid conservative dog food.
They didn't say qanon. You did dumbass. Lol.
You have proven over and over again to be a dumb ignorant leftist. My latest citation is this very thread.
"Pizzagate" is the very root of QAnon, you worthless carbuncle.
Isn't that a bit redundant? I mean, rashes of boils are pretty worthless, except maybe to the doctors that treat them.
Always ideas. Lol.
Will start crying people attack him shortly as he is a raging hypocrite.
Problem is nobody here respects either of you.
It is amusing though that your only friends here are Biden supporting democrats these days.
Go get a sense of humor you boring boor.
^ weasel
turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a TDS-addled lying pile of lefty shit.
Yes. Because we don't have a large party defending and normalizing pedophiles. This is why you actually hate Musk now. He is against it.
See him go hard after Britain this last week for covering Pakistani rape groups. This is what really draws your ire.
The fact that most Brits are progressive pussies does NOT make them pedophiles, you idiot.
No one hates on Islam more than I do.
Well, maybe the liberals Sam Harris and Bill Maher do.
"Islam is the mother lode of bad ideas"
S. Harris
turd lies. The TDS-addled turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
turd lies. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.
No, but the fact that that coddle pedophiles makes them progressives.
I'll see your pizza-gate and raise you critical theory.
BTW, I assume we are playing "insane ideas that political partisans believe".
turd certainly is dishonest, but he’s got a heaping helping of stupid to go with his dishonesty. Stupid, lying, despicable steaming pile of lefty shit and proud to be!
"Pizzagate" is the very root of QAnon, you worthless carbuncle.
Didn't Pizzagate turn out to be Epstein? Are you trying to say that he and his island didn't exist?
People only ever talk about the teenagers randy Andy was dallying with, but now and then there was the odd preteen on the island too, according to eyewitnesses and several journalists.
turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
Fuck off and die, asshole.
Elon Musk Accuses Starmer, Asks King Charles III to Dissolve Parliament Over Pakistani 'Grooming Gangs'
Musk alleged that Starmer, who was the Director of Public Prosecutions from 2008 to 2013, did not do enough to bring justice to the victims of 'grooming gangs.'
And he didn't, but big fucking surprise the retard who was banned for pedo content stans for actual pedos.
Look at the pedo trying to defend other pedos!
"...Musk quit the White House business council in June 2017 to protest the president withdrawing from the Paris Agreement on global carbon reduction..."
And he claims to be intelligent.
Shorter Doherty hit piece: Musk contradicted the Democratic establishment, therefore he likes Hitler.
As Musk himself has said, he didn't leave the Democratic Party, they left him. And, thankfully, enough Americans have felt the same to begin rejecting the left agenda, including the woke mind virus.
Trump, and the new right populism, including MAGA (whatever that means), certainly have flaws and serious issues. But just think how negative people in the political center now view Democrats, for them to decide to give Trump another chance.
Remember how that lying pile of TDS-addled lefty shit turd told us Biden didn't restrict oil drilling? Remember? Hey, turd!:
"Biden to Ban More Offshore Oil Drilling Before Trump Arrives"
[...]
"President Joe Biden is preparing to issue a decree permanently banning new offshore oil and gas development in some US coastal waters, locking in difficult-to-revoke protections during his final weeks in the White House.
Biden is set within days to issue the executive order barring the sale of new drilling rights in portions of the country’s outer continental shelf, according to people familiar with the effort who asked not to be named because the decision isn’t public."
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/biden-to-block-more-offshore-oil-drilling-before-trump-arrives/ar-AA1wRuM2?ocid=BingNewsSerp
Fuck you and Biden with a barb-wire-wrapped broomstick, turd.
And fuck every Biden supporter who does not immediately swear off all fossil fuel use, not just personal use but also all secondary and tertiary uses that might supply goods and services.
I presume this one will somehow be one of those Democrat Superexecutive Orders that can't be countermanded, like the Obama ones were.
How does that work? Can't a Super-duper-executive Order countermand a Super-executive Order?
Need a double dog Super-duper-executive Order
They are saying the law allowing it allows for shelf areas to be protected but not unprotected. They apparently went through this with areas Obama excluded and the first level of courts ruled the EO couldn't be overturned. It was never appealed up.
https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/biden-attempts-sabotage-trumps-drill-baby-drill-proposed-ban-new-offshore-drilling
"That was tested after President Barack Obama banned offshore drilling in parts of the Arctic Ocean and dozens of canyons in the Atlantic Ocean," the New York Times noted, adding, "During his first term in office, Mr. Trump tried to revoke the ban. In 2019, US District Court Judge Sharon Gleason in Alaska ruled that Mr. Obama's ban could not be undone without an act of Congress."
And, as usual, the process is the punishment.
Even if the ban doesn't actually impose any criminal action, the fact that it can be imposed whimsically, even if it can be repealed equally whimsically, effectively revokes the ability to set up production and/or supply chains.
Exactly: They don't actually need to ban fossil fuels to prevent them from being extracted. All they really need to do is make the regulatory environment around them so chancy that capital goes elsewhere.
And to do that they don't need to be in power all the time, maybe one year in 10 would actually be enough.
His first turn to the explicit right was precipitated by government COVID-19 policies, Conger and Mac believe.
COVID fascism was a major factor in the Republican's success in the 2024 election, one that is strangely unmentioned by commentators. No, Americans have not forgotten 2020-21.
But, but, but--for dedicated leftists, COVID fascism, along with government censorship, politicized security agencies and courts, media and academia as propaganda and indoctrination forces, and ANYTHING GOES crisis declarations (and morality) are all the way things should be.
The fact that a slim majority of Americans has rejected them is only a temporary problem.
The other side wants to take away your freedom of speech. They want to take away your right to bear arms. They want to take away your right to vote.
Correct.
And that's just (currently) overtly or primarily. They want your children. They want your house. They want your car. They want the other 22 kinds of deodorant you might use. They want control of the bar or restaurant you might visit when it's inconvenient to them. They want your ability to tell them "No." and they want you to accept all of it, show up for work tomorrow, and pay your taxes so they can have (more) of the fruits of your labor as well.
Democratic or progressive political and cultural elites are just the types to do any baroquely sinister thing you can imagine
Correct. Of course, those of us who enjoy mental health can't even imagine the things they've been caught doing.
If you thought Biden has made a mockery of the civilian medal of honor with Cheney, he continues by adding soros and Hillary.
Soros is the very epitome of freedom, you dumbass.
Hil-Dog is just another politician though.
But Fatass Donnie shit all over the Medal by awarding to that useless fascist Fat Rush Limpcock.
turd, the ass-wipe of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a TDS-addled lying pile of lefty shit.
"...Soros is the very epitome of freedom, you dumbass..."
turd believes ratting out other Jews to the Nazis = "freedom". He is, along with being totally bereft of honesty, and abysmal idiot.
#NotADemocrat
Funding rioters, letting violent criminals free, pushing massive regulations to benefit his investments, funding DAs to go after political opponents, buying politicians, funding censorship...
So much freedom. Lol.
Ever wonder who financed the hordes of illegals making their way north through Mexico over the past several years? The food and porta-potties didn't get there by magic, and I have a feeling I know who.
Should not someone warn them that no state in the US has universal health care?
On Threads, I see people criticizing how the US is the only country without universal health care.
And what about school shootings? I have read others writing that school shootings only happen in America.
Why do not these people go to the border and warn migrants about the horrors of America?
https://missioninvestors.org/resources/george-soros-founder-open-society-foundations-invests-500m-refugees
Nobody believes your bullshit here, except retarded, drunken, sarc, pedo. Now turn yourself in for your crimes against children.
Currency terror and RussiaGate getting pardons in the public eye before Trump takes office.
“ Attention Socialists. You too can be presented the Medal of Freedom, America’s highest civilian award. Simply contribute several million dollars to Democratic candidates or the party in general.
Hurry. This deal won’t last long.”
Nancy Pelosi's husband Paul had been assaulted in his home by a gay lover.
That does appear to be the case. Review the facts, Brian.
... and the article didn't allege it baselessly
... and, gay lover or not, baseless allegation or not, is the assertion that Musk can't/couldn't post baseless allegations on Twitter?
E. Jean Carroll and Christine Blasey Ford get $5M and investigations/trials/interroviews over exceptionally baseless accusations but Musk can't post on Twitter? WTF is wrong with someone who thinks like that?
"Blacks kill nearly 1,500 more whites each year than whites kill blacks" (the number is less than a third of that)."
The number is wrong but the basic assertion is quite true. Also the "debunk" link is WaPo (?!?), and all the article does is reinforce that we have a serious black violent crime problem.
So is it misinformation, or just a mistake? Is a reposter responsible for the accuracy info in the original post? Or is the sentiment in the post invalidated if any portion is hyperbole? Why should people in the "town square" be held to a higher standard than the press?
Just wait for the "facts" to change (and accept that facts are now fluid, like gender). Then all will be well.
ps. The other day, I dared to provoke (in the Reason comments!) by stating that banning young black males would save more lives than any incremental gun control ban. Both are absurdly unconstitutional, but if we want to make utilitarian arguments...
Why do young black males kill each other? Two words. The first one rhymes with "pug" and the second you can get by removing one letter from the band "Gwar".
Thug war?
It’s one of many reasons.
Cradle to grave welfare, over abundant access to abortion, gun control, war on drugs, etc. The black population has been deliberately screwed by the Fed over generations. Read Thomas Sowell. Stop being a dumb troll.
Lol. Asking sarc to read.
Especially some "white" guy.
Perhaps your comment was tongue in cheek - but I feel compelled to point out that Thomas Sowell is black...
Maybe a drag queen could read to him.
I thought that trying to reduce the murder rate in the black community was wrong because it is "culturicide".
You see this with most of the fact checking sites or democrats. See the Ohio pet eating story. The left does this as a distraction. So in the pet eating story the story is gov funded immigrants taking over houses, killing people driving without licenses, crimes, eating ducks/geese from parks, etc. To distract from this the left and fact checking focused only on pets. You even saw our usual crew here like QB and shrike doing the same. It is a means for distraction.
Fact checkers also love the 'true but' ruling against criticisms of Democrats and their policies.
Best of luck cutting government. There's only one problem. And it's a big one.
All these myriad federal agencies were created with legislation and are funded by legislation. And it's the duty of the executive to execute legislation.
That means that there's not much that can be done without Congress, and whatever is done without Congress can be undone by the next president.
There's also the fact that cuts to government are political suicide because government can't be cut without people losing jobs or benefits. That's fine for Trump since he's a lame duck, but it will make it difficult to get help from members of Congress.
Then there's the fact that Trump has said he won't touch the two major drivers of federal spending - Social Security and Medicare.
So plan on being disappointed.
Man you're have a lot of hope Trump fails. Lol. I'm sure you'll blame him despite the reasons why he fails above. It'll be ironic. I'll save this one for when you start blaming, again, those actually trying to make cuts.
To think you've been denying the deep state and dem control of these agencies for years. Even defending them against firings or investigations. Lol. You literally advocate their protections.
Translation: You're right but I can't admit it because I lack the maturity, so I'm going to call you names and tell lies instead.
He didn't call you any names.
He doesn't read posts. Why he can't learn.
He can’t read posts. Why he doesn’t learn.
This is perhaps your best post ever +10000000.
Only 30% approval rate of Congress says a lot.
We can only hope that SCOTUS will actually do it's job and enforce "The Peoples" LAW over their government.
And voting for legislators who honor their very "oath of office" better than the Grifters promising to destroy it for ?free? ponies.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/immigration/3276439/honduran-president-threatens-to-boot-us-military-if-trump-deports-its-citizens/
Deal.
And the U.S. troops they send back can be used to round up the Honduran illegals. Hoorah!!!
Win-win-win
Not to quibble, but will the Hondurans be paying for it?
You guys celebrate the idea of American fucking soldiers setting up military checkpoints and going door to door on American soil, rounding up people who don’t have their papers in order, and you call anyone who disagrees with you a fascist?
Wow.
Oh the horrors of being sent home after invading someone else's greener-pasture un-invited... /s
There's a whole bunch of people in the Pentagon right now going 'we have troops in Honduras?'
Musk might be the only government-cutting voice Trump trusts.
Faint praise. The bromance won't last a year.
There were ZERO small government voices in the last Trump administration.
turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
turd lies. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.
Quit following me and sniffing my ass, Sevo.
You little bitch.
^ nobody cares what you say pedophile.
Stop repeating what children say to you daily.
The TDS-addled turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
turd lies. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.
You should be in jail.
Oh that's why the De-Regulation committee didn't exist.
That's why the Parris Accord was rejected.
That's why the EPA budget was cut.
Your assertions don't fit reality at all.
Brian Doherty refers to Musk's son as his "daughter."
Doherty is just trying to sound woke-edgy. Would YOU like to face his progressive friends after dead-naming Xavier?
Reason has to get out of DC in the worst way.
I'm trying to decide if this paragraph represents Reason's journey to the anti-free speech dark side complete or is only a quick rest stop.
This article is the equivalent of say, Brian Doherty writing a bunch of articles on the lack of police accountability and then penning an unironic article huffing about a plan to restrict the power of police unions.
Public employee unions should be outlawed.
It would be sufficient to require the proposed contracts be approved by those who will pay the wages; the taxpayers, at the polls.
No. The general public is not qualified to make those decisions, so they would just vote down all pay increases. Let professional managers of government departments determine how much they need to pay to get good people.
Right, now imagine Doherty shilling for them.
Elon Musk has just blindsided the leftists in Germany. He has confirmed that X Space Podcast with AFD's Alice Weidel on Jan.9, bypassing the German left's firewall leaving them in a panic.
Elon just did an end run around the leftists defenses and scored a T.D.
Watch out Elon, they will sic Interpol on you.
Elon supports the Neo-Nazi Party - the afD.
There is not one retarded leftist narratives you won't blindly repeat. No matter how many times it blows up in your face.
Guess you can't have morals ot self respect if you're a pedophile.
What, EXACTLY, are the Nazi policies AfD advocates for?
Feel free to link to their site if you so wish to do so.
He has learned to not post links as his own articles often refute him.
The AfD a less neo-Nazi than you or the Democrats, Pluggo.
In fact they're far less Nazi than the SPD, who are the actual totalitarian cocksuckers using captured media to spread their slurs.
At absolute worse they're the CDU from 1992 to 2005. Classical liberals all the way. Their leader is a lesbian married to a Sri Lankan immigrant FFS. Explain how that's Nazi.
If shrike calls someone or some group Nazi, you can bet it’s that they aren’t globalist shills.
Looking back, I think that his buying Twitter was the tipping point. He then fired all of the censors, and kept the coders - doing what any venture capitalist (like Mitt Romney) would have done - cut the deadwood, and keep the lucrative core, streamlining the business, and ultimately paying for the acquisition. But this pissed off the left in general, and the Deep State in particular. The Deep State of unelected government bureaucrats started screwing with his other businesses, and, in particular, his crown jewel, SpaceX. They sued the company for not hiring illegals, when doing so would have been illegal due to his government (esp DOD) contracts. They stalled launches and required extraneous and duplicative environmental studies, etc. Because they could, and no one in the Biden Administration told them to knock it off, but were probably cheering them on.
If $132 million gets his Starship launch schedule pushed up a couple months, it was one of the best investments he ever made. SpaceX’s launch costs, per ton, are slated to be less than 5% of what they were when the company started launching. One of the interesting videos I saw a couple days ago was what he calls his “Pez Dispenser”. It’s a Starship ejecting 400 lb communications satellites like Pez. Just a long string of them. The result is likely to put him in direct competition with cell service providers around the world. StarLink is expected to be able to offer almost worldwide (big cities are apparently still a problem) ubiquitous voice and high speed data. Bye, bye to dead spots. And do it price competitively. Imagine the lawsuits by aggrieved competitors, if Harris had won. And that doesn’t even get into what else he has planned using his cheap space transportation, such as power generation, manufacturing, etc.
And that's not even touching Tesla's countrywide supercharger network, it's wall batteries and solar roofs, or Optimus, or the Boring Company, or Neuralink, etc.
Almost all the major technology changes in the past decade have come from Musk's companies.
I sometimes wonder if he got a life do over and is pushing for stuff he saw in the future.
"Biden Awards Medal of Freedom to Hillary Clinton, George Soros and Others"
Holy fuck! Also Bill Nye. Double fuck.
Just when I think the Democrats have reached peak retard, they go and prove me wrong.
I do hope Hilary's citation includes the Steel dossier and a basket of deplorables.
Crimes were committed.
https://www.nationalreview.com/2024/04/alvin-bragg-election-denier/
And if we’re going to talk 2016 election, Trump’s rival, Hillary Clinton, actually was found by the FEC to have violated federal campaign law. In stoking the fraudulent claim that Trump was a clandestine agent of the Kremlin, Clinton’s campaign paid its law firm, Perkins Coie, to hire Fusion GPS and Christopher Steele to concoct the story; then it booked the payment as legal expenses rather than opposition research. As a result, the FEC fined the Clinton campaign.
That’s (D)ifferent.
Also, I’m sure Bragg would rather not commit suicide by double tap to the back of the head.
When the vilest of criminals come face to face with the fact that the better part of humanity is aware of their crimes, their defense crumbles. At that point it is typical of them to spit in your face.
Now, watch them very closely... See what happens?
>". . . reducing himself to a dignity-free cheerleader
Speaking of which - has Harris called you back?
> . . . It was the dance that launched a thousand derisive memes
No it didn't.
> . . . Musk spent more than $132 million of his own money to help Republicans win
How much did Beyonce spend?
> . . . In mid-November came the prize: Musk, along with former presidential candidate and fellow tech-world booster Vivek Ramaswamy, would head a nongovernmental commission called
Yes, 'the prize' - more work at a job that will see him being attacked relentlessly in public.
"Musk spent more than $132 million of his own money to help Republicans win"
Remember how upset Doherty was when Mark Zuckerberg spent $220 million of his own money to help Democrats win in 2020?
Me neither.
That's (D)ifferent
Apparently anybody at Reason who doesn't have their nose so far up Trump's ass it tickles his tonsils has "TDS."
Stop socking sarc.
It's KAR/DOL. Stolen valour has come to play whiny dipshit again.
Eat a bullet.
Shut the fuck up you stupid fucking hick
Fuck off, KAR, you ban evading piece of shit.
I’m sorry, I can’t hear you over your RCDS.
Despite his King Solomon level wealth, Musk is probably an embodiment of most Americans in terms of politics and temperament.
Most people approve of gay marriage and legal pot. They don't approve of kids attending drag queen shows, getting "gender affirming" surgeries and trans woman sharing women's lockers. This is called people being libertarian in spirit but not abandoning decency and some level of common. Nothing remarkable.
Most Americans approve of immigration and would support some palatable amnesty measures. But they oppose the kind of utter fiasco Joe Biden has unleashed on the border. This is called people not tolerating total chaos in the name of embracing positive elements of society. We don't allow people to buy guns without background checks, even if 99% of gun owners aren't criminals and use guns to save their lives. Again, normal stuff.
Nothing that happened to Musk is extraordinary. He saw the ruling party as a total failure in all levels, and moved to change. All voters do this. This is more about sane people rejecting insanity than anything about Trump. This is how people in CA and NY SHOULD react to their hapless leadership. But they refuse to see the truth in the name of partisanship. They lie to themselves, and Elon couldn't be one of them.
What's truly extraordinary is the metamorphosis of Liz Cheney, who was a typical RINO with all the anti-socialist cred until TDS turned her into a one woman crusade against Trump. She embraced every evil she knows to be evil in the name of stopping Trump. Did you imagine that in a 100 years the Cheneys would be a celebrated figure among the left, and a George Bush endorsement would be highly sought after?
Excellent!!
"He tweeted an exclamation point while reposting the false claim that "Blacks kill nearly 1,500 more whites each year than whites kill blacks" (the number is less than a third of that)"
Um ... seeing how blacks are still a small minority of Americans, wouldn't *any* excess in that direction, be, er, unfortunate and non-proportional?
I'm also fairly certain that the original figure is correct. It aligns with the historical trends. I'd be willing to bet there's a bit of relying on that intentionally incomplete FBI data to engage in his "ummm, achktually." There has also been a huge problem with how they game racial identifiers. Frequently Hispanic, Arab, and even East Asians are counted as "white" perpetrators while they are split off as minorities for victim data. Black and Hispanic criminality rates are significantly higher than any other demographic, but even then the black criminality rate is the much higher of the two.
Musk moved on to Trump because he is easily manipulated with a few "you were the greatest President ever and only you can fix our country" remarks. If you con the Con, you also con his followers. It's not complicated really.
What's the con? Hollowing out [OUR] UN-Constitutional Commie public Institutions?
The thing the USA fought a Revolutionary War and claimed Independence to avoid.
Well Trump is getting $$$ from foreign government officials booking rooms at his properties, for Bibles (the only one Oklahoma deems legit for their classrooms), sneakers, coins, cologne, etc., pushing policies that will be profitable for him. If you think he cares about anything but adding $$$ to his bank accounts...then you have been conned as well.
It's a con to be allowed to willing pay for a service you want?
Oh and what Musk ACTUALLY wanted killed in the spending bill while he was fake crying over football stadiums, etc. for show...
Restricting investments in China
Also stripped from the bill was a provision that would have limited US investments in China, particularly in the technology sector.
Democrats have slammed the removal of the measure, arguing that its absence would benefit Elon Musk, who helped derail the bipartisan package on Wednesday.
“Musk’s investments in China, and ties with its government, have only grown over the last few years – alongside his growing involvement in American politics,” Rep. Rosa DeLauro, ranking member of the House Appropriations Committee, wrote in a letter Friday to congressional leaders.
“It is no surprise, then, that ‘President’ Musk does not want to see a funding deal containing this provision be signed into law,” she wrote.
The measure would have “prevented wealthy investors from continuing to offshore production and US intellectual property into China,” she wrote.
So Musk lobbied to strip from the bill his own Intellectual Property protection in China?
It baffles me how you're allowing yourself to be indoctrinated by contradictions.
Why do you think I am talking about intellectual property protections?
You might consider to read:
https://www.tabletmag.com/feature/rapid-onset-political-enlightenment
rapid-onset-political-enlightenment by David Samuels
It details how you've been manipulated - take the red pill!
Elon Musk is no different that millions of Americans who have correctly identified and are disgusted with the "Deep State" defined as the unelected government workers who believe that they are more important than elected officials or the will of the voters.
You highlight that Musk gave $132 million to help get Trump elected, probably the biggest single contribution either candidate received.
But you failed to mention that many billionaires gave BIG money to each candidate.
Moreover, you make it sound like Musk bought the election for Trump. He did not.
Total Trump campaign spending was $479 million. But the total Harris campaign spending was $1.170 BILLION -- 2.44 times more than Trump.
https://ballotpedia.org/Presidential_election_campaign_finance,_2024
Then there's the openly biased "news" reports on every major TV channel except Fox -- arguably worth WELL in excess of $200,000,000.
Yet Trump still won.
Come on, REASON. Let's put things in context.
Or maybe he and Vivek just thought he could scam MAGA and its reluctant hangers-on into accepting more H1B slave labor, and got pissy when they revolted.
Funny how he pivoted to "positivity" and throttling on X when he got ratio'd to hell on his own platform.