Arkansas Can't Jail Librarians for Giving Kids 'Harmful' Books
Portions of a law, struck down last week, would have subjected individuals to misdemeanor charges for providing "harmful" materials to minors.

Portions of an Arkansas law that would have subjected librarians to criminal charges for letting kids check out books deemed "harmful to minors" were struck down by a federal judge last week, who ruled that parts of the law violated the First and Fourteenth Amendments.
Act 372, signed into law by Arkansas Gov. Sarah Huckabee Sanders (R) in March 2023, requires public libraries to allow citizens to challenge library materials. Each challenge must undergo a lengthy review process, and challenged books may be moved to an area off-limits to minors.
The law also states that anyone who provides material deemed "harmful to minors"—defined as showing "nudity, sexual conduct, sexual excitement, or sadomasochistic abuse" while also being in the prurient interest, patently offensive, and lacking "literary, scientific, medical, artistic, or political value for minors"—is guilty of a misdemeanor offense, punishable by up to a year in jail.
In June 2023, a group of Arkansas public libraries, bookstores, and publishing groups filed a lawsuit challenging the law. The group argued that the threat of criminal prosecution "necessarily [forces] libraries and bookstores to confine to a secure 'adults only' area—and so to segregate from their general patrons and customers—any item that might be deemed harmful to the youngest minor, even if there is no constitutional basis for limiting its availability to older minors or adults. Where libraries and booksellers lack the space or resources to construct 'adults only' areas, their only choice will be to remove all materials which might be deemed harmful to their youngest, least developed patrons or customers."
In July 2023, a federal judge blocked part of the law, temporarily halting the challenged portions during litigation.
Last Monday, Judge Timothy L. Brooks of the United States District Court for the Western District of Arkansas went a step further and permanently struck down portions of the law altogether.
According to Brooks, the first section of the law, which criminalizes providing "harmful" items to minors, is unconstitutionally overbroad "because it regulates substantially more speech than the Constitution allows and therefore violates the First Amendment rights of Arkansans." Additionally, the section's "terms are so vague that they fail to provide librarians and booksellers with adequate notice of what conduct is prohibited, thus violating their due process rights."
Brooks also found that the other challenged section of the law, which mandated libraries follow onerous procedures for book challenges, was also unconstitutional for being both vague and placing "content-based restrictions on protected speech."
"This ruling reaffirms what we have said all along – Act 372 is a dangerous and unconstitutional attack on free expression," John Williams, legal director for the American Civil Liberties Union of Arkansas, said in a press release last week. "Our libraries and bookstores are critical spaces for learning, exploration, and connection. By striking down these provisions, the court has safeguarded the right of every Arkansan to access ideas and information without fear of censorship or prosecution."
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Tax payer funded porn for children is The Libertarian Moment we’ve all been waiting for.
Meanwhile, someone who is NOT a librarian or teacher can still go to jail for giving smut to a child in most states.
In these days, when anyone with a cell phone can be "a journalist", they can also be "a librarian".
I was not born a librarian but I've recently decided that I am in fact a librarian trapped in the body of a barely literate old man. I also support children having free access to pornography and if I'm convicted of contributing to their delinquency I will demand to be housed in the librarian wing of the penitentiary because despite all evidence to the contrary I identify as a librarian. Also those librarian chicks are kinda hot.
"...I am in fact a librarian trapped in the body of a barely literate old man."
Dear Leader agrees, to ALL of the above, and many more! THAT is why He agreed to be Mind-Cuntrolled by Queen Spermy Daniels (Who Art Glazed in Vaseline; Hallowed Be Her Name!)
#EqualAccessForAllToSpermyDanielsIWantSomeToo
Arkansas Can't Jail Librarians for Giving Kids 'Harmful' Books... in violation of or contradiction to taxpayers/patrons' demands no less.
The Cops can't just walk into a library on little Timmy's testimony and arrest Dolores The Bookshelver (any more than they can already). Patron*s* have to protest, the library board has a hearing to decide whether the books get reshelved elsewhere or omitted, and *then* if the librarian continues to provide inappropriate books to children, in contradiction to patrons' and the library board's wishes, they can be arrested.
And, of course, the fact that the first half of the bill, the part that Emma is selectively omitting because of what a loser topic it is to her cause, is specifically to prevent tranny strippers from performing for children while reading a book and calling it story time.
The review process is lengthy and the definitions are there to be quoted *in addition to* lacking other merit but enacting this law could cause the downfall of Western Democracy as Librarians would lose their free speech right to sexualize children on the taxpayers' dime *explicitly against the taxpayers' will*.
So, as usual, at a minimum, Little Emma liked by omission.
Yep, she fits right in with the Reason staff.
‘Lied’
That's "liked" by omission of the "k".
As pointed out this is QI for librarians, except where cops even if only nominally become liable outside their specific job role, Reason is arguing that Librarians shouldn't be.
That is, if a teacher is providing DIY sex change instruction manuals to children without their parents knowing, they can't be liable because they didn't know not to provide sex change instruction manuals to children. Even if patrons and libraries told them to.
Again, if this were Catholic Priests or Scoutmasters or Evangelicals handing out Gay Conversion Therapy Literature or cops effectively soliciting/entrapping minors we'd be stringing these people up by their toes and scowling while pointing the finger at the people who hired them, but because they're acolytes of the desired State Religion, they get extra State protection.
Tranny strippers? Hear those Fox people in your dreams?
Isn't that the best part of a communist market?
[WE] mobs-of-emotions gets to pack Gov-'Guns' and entertain endless battles over what the Master-Dictation will be.
Heaven-forbid Individuals had freedom in a just/fair environment.
Would be nice to point out the libertarian solution to these problems -- no government schools.
Would be nice to point out that the real problem is having a near-monopoly on government schools, which means most parents don't have the luxury of choosing what education their children get, and since they are forced by law and the threat of jail to send their kids to government monopoly schools, they want some control over what their children are taught and exposed to.
Would be nice to compare the threat of jail for not sending your kids to the government monopoly indoctrination centers, and the threat of jail for government indoctrination specialists who expose children to government propaganda against their parents' wishes.
Would be nice to be libertarian for a change.
Would be nice to just put 30 seconds of thought into an article. I had these thoughts within 10 seconds of skimming it, and then spent several minutes typing it up. Would be real fucking nice if the writers here put even half that much effort into it.
no government schools
The Arkansas law applied to public libraries and book stores, too, not just schools.
Thanks, I did not notice that. I'll give Emma an additional 5 seconds leeway for my lapse. Still not libertarian.
Vernon Derpner is a pro-pedophile retard. The word 'store' appears nowhere in the law ('librar' appears 39 times, 'school' appears 12, 'museum' appears once). Given the explicit sections laying out how material is to be reviewed and reshelved, it seems retardedly disingenuous to pretend like the law applies to your local Barnes & Nobles the same way it (doesn't) apply to your local guy selling nudie magazines to kids out of his white van in a back alley.
The law is (long and short) titled:
I certainly agree that the solution is no public libraries or schools. Secondary to that would be voluntary donation or participation in 'public' libraries or schools. Library or school patrons getting what they pay for as they see fit, just like the private market. Vernon Derpner doesn't want that. He wants to lie to taxpayers and children so that librarians can be shielded from liability for handing obscene material to children even after they'd been told not to/to stop.
Once again, these are laws that, in more actually libertarian society, wouldn't have to be written. A pedophile would offer inappropriate material to a minor without their parents' consent, repeatedly after being told to stop, their body would be found in the hills two weeks later, and everyone would go about their business. The reason these laws are necessary is because of the dishonesty and malice of people like Vernon and Emma.
"...Act 372 of 2023 (“Act 372”), a vague, sweeping law that restrains public libraries and booksellers in Arkansas from making available constitutionally protected books and other media to their patrons and customers."
"This will necessarily force libraries and bookstores to confine to a secure “adults only” area—and so to segregate from their general patrons and customers—any item that might be deemed harmful to the youngest minor..."
(bolds mine)
https://reason.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/12/akcomplaint.pdf
https://arkleg.state.ar.us/Home/FTPDocument?path=/ACTS/2023R/Public/ACT372.pdf
ctrl+f 'seller': 0 results.
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Just because you're stupid enough, in 2024, to think that Emma or any other Reason writer wouldn't ignore the plain letter of the law to support "mostly peaceful" activism and/or sexualizing children doesn't mean she wouldn't do it.
You like the media when they run interference in support of defending state employees sexualizing children, I don't know how much less libertarian you can get.
"Emma or any other Reason writer" had nothing to do with what I posted.
Neither does the law itself but that didn't stop you or Emma from sperg dunking for pedophiles and presenting one side of the law, the side that effectively expands QI for librarians outside their job roles, now did it?
Again, Emma and other Reason writers have a proven track record of quoting plaintiffs and even specifically political activists and politicians including Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren, and Hillary Clinton's claims out of hand without even the slightest verification or acknowledgement as to whether a law actually states or does. This is run through theirs and other media narrative across this issue and several others.
They carried the "Don't Say Gay" water long after retards like you and Jeffrey had convinced people that having you on their side was one of the most stupid, repugnant, destructive, and insidiously toxic things they could do socially/politically.
You become tiresome. Back in the grey box for you for a while.
And, once again, up front moderation has always been a viable, reasonable, and non-censorious thing. Whether it's a private newpaper or a public library, neither the reporter nor the librarian owns the means of production and would be completely sensible to check with their superiors first before purchasing and providing material that even the library might not approve of.
But we live in the (or just Emma's) post-honesty, libertine, stupid ages where, 'because interwebz', the last 500 yrs. of common sense and everyday human interaction don't apply and the media has to shovel shit until they're more hated than Congress or Russia and, in response, shovel harder.
In a true libertarian society, Shrike would have been disappeared a very long time ago. Pedo Jeffy too. Although I suspect he would be much hard to ‘disappear’. Although it wouldn’t be impossible. Didn’t David Copperfield once make a 747 vanish?
He once made Diamond Head vanish.
"book stores, too"
...precisely the massive sh*t-stain in the [D] pitched Civil Rights Act of 1964 and well addressed by Goldwater.
FORCING Individuals (private) to service the *special* cause is a violation of Individual Property Rights (i.e. Taking).
I agree that privatizing schools (plus also getting rid of endless legal requirements for degrees and licenses in most if not all jobs) is an excellent idea. Now good luck getting any of THAT done!
Would be nice to compare factual articles versus editorials. There IS a difference, you know! Or have ye never noticed? The above article is "just the facts" and contains nary a hint of being an editorial! Learn the difference! Shit's snot all that hard!
Emma didn't condemn the obscenity of Shitler, either! Twat a VAST implied blessing of Shitler and Shitler's obscenities!
Opinion articles bemoaning what government does are a dime a dozen. Probably thousands published every day. What *should* set a libertarian site apart from all those ho-hum clones is libertarian principles. Without principles, these articles are just opinionated rants of no import.
When writing a FACTUAL article, twat "principles" (other than reporting the FACTS) should apply?
HOW does reporting the FACTS have anything to do with "opinionated rants"?
Opinions are like assholes... Everyone has one! Ye want opinions, read the cumments, and refrain from unfairly criticizing a FACTUAL report for SNOT being an editorial!
"The law also states that anyone who provides material deemed "harmful to minors"—defined as showing "nudity, sexual conduct, sexual excitement, or sadomasochistic abuse" while also being in the prurient interest, patently offensive, and lacking "literary, scientific, medical, artistic, or political value for minors"
Fuck you, Emma and Timothy L. Brooks.
The libertarian solution to handing Hustlers and "sadomasochistic abuse" material to little kids is a kick to the teeth. Jail time should be a given.
What part of "and lacking "literary, scientific, medical, artistic, or political value for minors" is controversial here? How is that "terms so vague that they fail to provide librarians and booksellers with adequate notice of what conduct is prohibited"?
It's crystal clear that if it's medical illustrations and descriptions of the old vagoo, then it's okay, and if it's graphic Japanese ero-guro comics of murder-rapes then you can't hand it to the grade three kiddies.
Even at that, the law lays out, repeatedly, that it goes for review to be reshelved or removed from circulation and that the person can only be convicted for, again repeatedly, *knowingly* providing it.
It's funny, if this were cops providing "Hustlers and sadomasochistic abuse material lacking "literary, scientific, medical, artistic, or political value for minors" Reason would be questioning why can't lynching be written (back) into AK state law?
Reason is nothing if not a worthless sack of unprincipled, inconsistent crap.
Here I was, ready to get my dander up about ill defined “harmful” and then you have to ruin it by showing it is actually pretty well defined.
Damn you ML!
What part of "and lacking "literary, scientific, medical, artistic, or political value for minors" is controversial here?
I suppose scientific or medical value might be reasonably clear. Whether a work lacks literary or artistic value is highly subjective and therefore vague.
It's crystal clear that if it's medical illustrations and descriptions of the old vagoo, then it's okay, and if it's graphic Japanese ero-guro comics of murder-rapes then you can't hand it to the grade three kiddies.
The difference between those two extremes might be "crystal clear", but there's vast territory in between. There should be processes for citizens of school districts to decide what should or shouldn't be in their libraries without the threat of criminal prosecution of librarians.
but there's vast territory in between.
What nonsense. If you honestly can't tell if it's solely meant to titillate some peccadillo then err on the side of caution and don't give it to the kids. If it clearly has literary, scientific, medical, artistic, or political value then you don't have to worry.
This gives far more leeway actually than I would. While Michelangelo's David and Grey's Anatomy are okay in my book, I would draw the line at things like Lady Chatterley's Lover which the law obviously permitted.
Make your own judgements, but don't throw people in jail for drawing the line in a different place than you do. The threat of incarceration for missing the mark will cause librarians and booksellers to "err on the side of caution" with needless and harmful over-curating.
We aren't throwing people in jail for drawing a line in a different place.
We're throwing people in jail for being informed of a difference of opinion about what they should be providing to other peoples' children without or even in spite of those peoples' knowledge and consent.
Again, if these were laws reining in police officers, this law would be a solid slam dunk for any anti-QI advocates, but because the "1 woman + 1 man = 2 men" movement needs children and is a/the State Religion to some people, voters and patrons are trampling on the State's Right to sexualize children.
I'm old enough to remember when the SC grappled with a definition of pornography and ultimately decided that it would be left up to a local "community standard", and that was for access to adults. At the time access to minors wasn't really supported by anyone publicly. This statute is narrowly written with all of the required exclusions. As others have noted, a private individual providing porn to minors could probably be convicted by a jury based on their determination of a community standard. But a podunk judge has determined that librarians can disseminate porn to children without regard to parental objection.
There's nothing unusual about librarians and teachers being exempted from such laws. It's not just "one podunk judge"; it's the statutory law in many (most, maybe?) places.
Right. It's otherwise known as Qualified Immunity and even in Reason's opposition to QI wouldn't or shouldn't apply to these cases.
That is Reason will argue that QI shouldn't function so broadly but also that it specifically should *not* apply when officers of the law are acting outside official policy or breaking the law otherwise. Librarians providing obscene and uneducational material to children without their parent or guardians' consent is explicitly the latter, least defensible case by Reasons own (inconsistent) position.
Right. It's otherwise known as Qualified Immunity
Wrong. In my state and others, teachers and librarians have statutory exemption from laws against distributing "material harmful to juveniles"—not mere QI.
Hey, how can we achieve libertopia unless everyone, including toddlers, has full independent agency (and also state-supplied satisfaction of all their desires and delusions)?
Maybe it's the parents responsibility not the Politicians or the Librarians job to raise one's own kids.
Why stop at kids? If the books are ?harmful? (lol) maybe the Gov-Gods better burn them all?
The government shouldn’t be in the book business at all.
Nonsense. Public libraries have empowered bootstrappers and DIY folks as long as they've been in existence. To say nothing of spreading the written word to those who would otherwise struggle to obtain it - impoverished folks, ex-cons, etc. This promoted individualism, self-sufficiency, and encouraged self-determination and resistance to subjugation. And for as much as folks around here grouse about public education, now they want to take self-education away too?
This is one of the ways that so-called "Libertarians" here show their Marxist core underneath. At the end of their arguments, you start to realize that what they really want is an ignorant, pacified, anesthetized populace, seduced by vice and that only cares about bread and circuses. Because that is a VERY controllable population.
And I mean, come on - this point was the subject of one of the most memorable cinema scenes of all time.
Good for Emma to boldly and publicly prove her support for pedophile groomers. Please don't ever get near children.
Someday those same children will not have access to FAFSA cash and will need sugar daddies to get their journolism degrees.
The smart, motivated kids will have years of online income from their OnlyFans* accounts by the time they head to college.
*Or some dedicated child porn sites.
Good for "Social Justice is neither" to boldly and pubically prove her support for torturing, and then drinking the blood of, all of the new-born Christian babies! Please stay OFF of our planet!
How does this make sense? Librarians can give kids porn, but kids can't buy it on their own with their own money? Why should the government be subsidizing porn for children?
In my state, librarians and teachers have been exempt from the law against giving "material harmful to juveniles" to kids for decades. The reason for that is the one dismissed by posters above—that it would expose teachers and librarians to unfair risk due to the difficulty of precisely defining what "material harmful to juveniles" is with respect to a particular work.
Once again, no, your librarians and teachers aren't exempt. If they're standing on the street corner selling porn to children out of a van they will be arrested and booked.
Just because you think you can be stupid and dishonest enough like chemjeff saying "What about Snow White?" to think you're making some sort of point doesn't make you, them, or the collective activists and activism in order to sexualize children you represent any less retarded.
Otherwise, your teachers choose a book and curriculum that's approved by the schoolboard up front and that parents can opt their kids out of rather than injecting their own activism into schools and libraries and without parents' knowledge.
Once again, it would seem to be common sense that if a minor checks out or is provided a book on an adult patron's bona fides that the adult patron would be able to have access to the information about the materials provided. Anything else would be an unconscionable "You have to accept the contract to find out what's in the contract." nuking of libertarianism. But you, Emma, or both, don't care.
librarians and teachers aren't exempt. If they're standing on the street corner selling porn to children out of a van they will be arrested
I avoid writing this, but in this case it's actually true: LOL
Right. Because you don't have an actual refutation other than to laugh. You need to obfuscate, to yourself, to others, or both that you're essentially defending librarians and state actors in surreptitious acts of sexualization of children. Just like above where you spin yourself around tautologically by saying "They're statutorily protected, not merely immunized by qualification." and pretend you've done something other than make yourself look retarded.
Otherwise, the law is exceedingly and straightforwardly libertarian in that patrons and guardians should be served by their tax dollars (or not have to pay their tax dollars at all), that such an arrangement is directly and pointedly taxation without representation, and the activist librarians who want to distribute propaganda against the patrons, guardians, taxpayers, and boards wishes can go fuck themselves. To the point that, as indicated, 10, 20, even 30 yrs. ago such a law wouldn't even be needed because dumbfucks like you would rightly recognize that it's not your library, it's not a political platform, and it's *especially* not a political platform for the state and their "statutorily-protected-but-totally-not-immunized actors" to drive a wedge between parents and their children.
But again, you want to play Chemjeff radical retard and act like pedophiles are owed libraries by law in order to distribute propaganda to minors without and/or against the patrons' and parents' knowledge and/or wishes.
Arkansas Can't Jail Librarians for Giving Kids 'Harmful' Books
so - Hold my Beer happens next week
Judge Timothy Brooks (appointed by Obama).
A key detail omitted from the story.
Why stop at sexy stuff. Let's prosecute librarians who give kids other corrupting material, like books by Marx/Hitler (choose one).
Marx Hitler would be a good band name.
Hitler and the Marxists?
Same thing really.
The libertarian ideal is when other adults secretly influence and corrupt your children against your will behind your back.
Pure libertarianism has many limitations.
State-funded propaganda centers aren't anywhere near pure libertarianism.
Activist judges supporting enhanced rights for the rogue actors of community-funded propaganda-centers acting outside the policies of their boards and benefactors isn't anywhere near pure libertarianism.
The pretense that the problem here is the limitations of libertarianism rather than the straight up dishonesty of bad faith actors and stupid shitheels is itself dishonest and bad faith.
It would, could, be one thing if these bad faith actors were acting in a manner to disrupt and/or destroy the propagandizing or State/community-run machinery or otherwise strive towards greater liberty, but they specifically aren't. Rather the opposite, they're actively trying to force or extort greater accommodation from the public and more subjugation of individuals in private spaces and actions.
> The group argued that the threat of criminal prosecution "necessarily [forces] libraries and bookstores to confine to a secure 'adults only' area—and so to segregate from their general patrons and customers—any item that might be deemed harmful to the youngest minor,
Yes. You should do that. Like we do with porn anywhere else.
Because that's largely what we are talking about here - LGBT porn, but porn nontheless.
And the really strange part is, it's only their porn they want mainstreamed. If you took some LGBT book where it has graphic sex scenes or pedophilia or what have you - the gays will come out of the woodwork to defend it. But if you genderswapped the same book into a heterosexual relationship - all the same people will complain about the content, but the gay community will go strangely quiet on the subject.
I wonder why so many think they are FORCED to live in a library?
If you don't approve of said library then tell me this..........
WHAT THE F' ARE YOU DOING THERE WITH YOUR KIDS!!!!!
I'm pretty sick of people thinking 'Guns' (Gov-Guns) has to curve the whole F'En world to their whim.
If you don't like something don't BE THERE.
Clown.
It's like saying, "If you don't want hookers, druggies, and drag queens at Chuck'e'Cheese, then don't go to Chuck'e'Cheese."
Hookers, druggies, and drag queens are not the reasonable person's expectation when they go there. And the fact that degenerate skells and perverts clearly want to lay siege to family friendly areas directed at children should tell you a lot about them.
And if you really want to get meta, it should give you an idea of why they have their sights on such places, when doing so serves only the singular purpose of helping corrupt/destroy that which is traditionally conducive to encouraging family - the social core of civilization - itself.
Also makes one consider if that's the reason for what sure seems like an intentional myopia when it comes to LOLertarians like you, and the subjects you go to bat for.
Who are you to tell Chuck'e'Cheese by 'Gun' (Gov-Gun) force what kind of service it has to be? This just falls right in-line with 'Gun' forcing people to be what you want them to be.
Heck. At least there was the 'publicly' funding-part that had a little substance with public libraries now you're off to Dictating private business and people themselves.
Your demonstration these last few days shows the perfect example of why people will never allow the USA to be the USA. Even those who pretend to want a LIMIT 'government' only want it to be LIMITED for themselves and nobody else.
Yes, that's AT—liberty for me, a police state for thee.
And then create a couple thresholds. If half the respondents approve, it's automatically approved to be stocked. If half the object, it's vetoed for the next year (to provide for annual library card renewals and purging of patrons with no library activity). If only a quarter object, the library then has to put out a statement as to why they think it has literary value, which then follows the same process above.
I guarantee that engaged citizens will perform that review of their own volition, and non-engaged ones lose their basis for griping either way about it after the fact (which, hopefully, encourages them to engage).
It seems like an easy and reasonable solution, no?
Where libraries and booksellers lack the space or resources to construct 'adults only' areas, their only choice will be to remove all materials
If space is their concern, why would they prioritize that kind of inventory in the first place? What other materials are they displacing in order to make room for it, and why?
Or, here's a thought - involve the community and meet them halfway (I can hear all you Marxists wearing Libertarian skinsuits groaning already). Put out a weekly announcement to card holders that lists all proposed incoming books in the next month to the library (meaning incoming books will be on the list for four consecutive weeks before arrival). The community, if it's really as concerned as it claims, can easily go to Publisher's Weekly or wherever to get a quick rundown on the proposed material's content. And make it easy. An online form with all the proposed incoming books that a patron can use their library card to access, with a pair of radio buttons to agree or disagree, and a little bit of internet security to prevent fraud.
And then create a couple thresholds. If half the respondents approve, it's automatically approved to be stocked. If half object, it's vetoed for the next year (to provide for annual library card renewals and purging of patrons with no library activity). If only a quarter object, the library then has to put out a statement as to why they think it has literary value, which then follows the same process above.
I guarantee that engaged citizens will perform that review of their own volition, and non-engaged ones lose their basis for griping either way about it after the fact (which, hopefully, encourages them to engage).
It seems like an easy and reasonable solution, no?
Don't know why it only grabbed half the post that first time. Weird.
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Too bad. I would've liked to have seen a trial on the fact of whether a book could be harmful to minors. I'd like to see them try to prove that.
I'm not an attorney, but I think the matter before the court would be only whether the book fit the description of "harmful to minors" spelled out in the statute, not whether the book was factually harmful.
And that is the first reason this law is constitutionally suspect - it bans certain subject matter based on the legislature's uninformed opinion rather than on any sort of proof.
Too bad. I would've liked to have seen a trial on the fact of whether a book could be harmful to minors. I'd like to see them try to prove that.
Shouldn't be any harder than banning/proving private, voluntary gay conversion therapy sessions under the similarly pseudo-scientific guise that they're harmful; which is the law in 20-something states.
Once again, if we had librarians handing "How To Pray The Gay Away" or "Neuter Yourself Rather Than Be Gay" to kids without their parents' permission and/or against patrons' wishes, there wouldn't be any question about how immoral and unlawful this is for public libraries and even wide swaths of private enterprise.
But because "2 men = 1 man + 1 woman" is the State religion, the oracles have to tell us what and to whom which State-sponsored priests are allowed to proselytize.
Because once again and as usual, it's not about liberty or morality. It's not even really about homosexuality or transgenderism. It's about exploiting homosexuality and transgenderism to force people to bend the knee.