You Don't Beat China by Copying China
Xi Jinping’s neo-mercantilist policies are destructive, not productive.

Greg Jensen, co-chief investment officer at asset management firm Bridgewater Associates, recommended last week in The Wall Street Journal that the U.S. adopt China's "quasimodern mercantilist system." Jensen claims that "currency management, public procurement, state subsidies, protectionism and other implicit subsidies" have enabled China to develop "a range of leading industries." He also advocates for industrial policy through the protection of "national corporate champions."
But while it is true that China makes up the majority of manufacturing capacity for electric vehicles (nearly 60 percent in 2023), solar power (over 80 percent in 2022), and battery cells (75 percent in 2022), China's central planning has harmed its economy. It has resulted in industrial overcapacity, increased its debt-to-GDP ratio, and depressed household spending. Adopting these policies would harm America's economy and productivity.
A 2020 analysis by the World Bank points to the reallocation of resources "from inefficient state-owned enterprises (SOEs) to dynamic private firms" as crucial to increasing productivity growth. The researchers attribute China's below-7-percent GDP growth in 2015–2018 "to slowing growth in Total Factor Productivity," which is caused by insufficient capital reallocation from sclerotic SOEs to private firms. Stanford's Center on China's Economy and Institutions in 2022 found that firms with below 50 percent state ownership were more productive and profitable than SOEs. In fact, the country's most profitable firm, Tencent, is a multinational technology conglomerate that is 99 percent privately owned.
Through central planning, China has indeed increased capacity in certain industries, but arbitrarily allocating capital does not put it to its highest valued use. By ignoring and distorting prices, the state has no means to determine how it should allocate inputs. In China's Great Wall Of Debt, financial journalist Dinny McMahon explains how subsidies and protectionism account for overcapacity in the Chinese steel industry: Factories only produced 70 percent of their 1.1 billion tons of steel in 2015 and still "more than half of China's steel companies posted a loss" because "prices were driven so low that steel was cheaper than cabbage."
China's economic outlook remains bleak. Reuters reports that China has 31.2 billion square feet of unused housing inventory in 2024. Household spending was 20 percentage points less than the global average in 2024, and its government-sector debt was 116.9 percent of GDP in 2023. Furthermore, its policy of picking national champions has hampered its economy, not enriched it: The central government's own State-owned Assets Supervision and Administration Commission (SASAC) "identified 345 'zombie' firms among central [state-owned enterprises], which have run losses for three consecutive years," according to a 2016 International Monetary Fund working paper.
China is a clear example of how central planners lack the knowledge to effectively manage an economy. Instead of adopting China's mercantilist policies that insulate firms from competition, allocate capital arbitrarily, and keep unprofitable firms on life support, the United States should double down on free trade, deregulation, and privatization.
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Is it really all that surprising that power-hungry officials and politicians envy the power of totalitarian nation-states? They don't really care about optimizing production and profits while increasing the nation's wealth and improving the lives of their people so much as they do maximizing their personal power. We the People just just tell them, "No! Not today, Boris!"
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How does creating supply chain risk and reducing domestic manufacturing with regulations optimize production?
You haven't thought through your words have you.
For some of you the marker disruptions during covid never occurred. It is amazing to see.
From or with Covid? I learned those disruptions were caused by authoritian jackasses who wanted to control nature and the economy. So I don't want to give them control over the economy. They aren't good stewards of the piece they already have, being 36 trillion+- in debt.
How does creating supply chain risk and reducing domestic manufacturing with regulations optimize production?
Is this a call back to a previous conversation between you 2? Because MWAocdoc said nothing remotely close to that here.
Since when did Jesse start responding to what people actually say?
OK. I see where I went wrong.
Are these the wonderful “ideas” you speak of?
Thank you.
Jesse spends (at least) half the time arguing with the voices in their head instead of what the article or other commenters actually said.
Sometimes your comments make less sense than they do on other days. This is, apparently, one of those days.
"No! Not today, Boris!"
So what's Natasha, chopped liver?
Liver, no. A honey pot, yes.
Why would you chop a honey pot?
Because she's taking to long making a sandwich?
You just HAD to say that on my lunch break ...
Stupid Reason doesn’t understand. China’s economic rise isn’t because of free market reforms. It’s because the government owns stake in companies, uses that to influence companies, and subsidizes them as well. If we are going to compete we need to put tariffs on subsidized goods while emulating their government influence on our own economy. Only then can we move towards true free markets where government negates competitive advantage, which will allow tariffs to be dropped.
Or something.
Or something is doing a lot of work on that retarded narrative you're pushing.
You still can't understand what free market means. Lol.
Imagine saying every company in China has to have a CCP person on the board and vast control of their banking system is a free market. God damn man.
I understand free markets from the economic point of view. You understand them from the political point of view. And the first rule of politics is to disregard economics.
I understand free markets from the economic point of view.
Cite?
You understand free markets? That’s news to me, Sarc. The only economics you might grasp are those on the shelves of the liquor store.
sarc seems to have a better grip on economics than most of the regular commenters.
Only JesseBahnFarter-Fuhrer understands what free market means! Shit means ever MORE and MORE tariff-taxes, and ever-larger central planning for the economy, so long ass the Government Almighty doing the Collective Planning for the Good of the Hive, is of "Team R"!
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To Jesse free trade means fair trade. It means equitable trade. Fair and equitable. But not free. Definitely not free. It means equal outcomes, equal regulatory environment, equal laws, equal subsidies, equal tariffs, equal taxes, and no comparative advantage. Only when it’s equal and fair will he call it free.
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If you believe some of the commenters around here the entire comments sections is just one giant incestuous sock ouroboros.
I would ask what part of "sarcasmic" you failed to understand, but I already know the answer is "all of it".
In all fairness, it's tough to compete with child and/or slave labor like they have in the PRC.
In all fairness, tariffs aren’t going to change anything. Especially wrt child labor. We had child labor in this country until society was wealthy enough to not need it, and that happened through trade. So if you want to end child labor, allow consumers to buy stuff from poor foreigners without jacking up prices with tariffs.
In all fairness, you have just stated a problem and left the proposed solution dangling. Aside from it being an unfair way to argue, it tends to blow up in your face when the implied solution fails massively and the finger-pointing blame-game starts. The politicians have been doing that for a few generations now - stating a real or imagined "problem" that no one in his right mind wouldn't want to try to fix - and then just IMPOSING their solution of choice as if you would have to be crazy to disagree with the plan or, worse, a mean-spirited nogoodnik who doesn't WANT to end child slave labor. When the problem doesn't end up getting solved, the politicians just happen to be elsewhere or a handy scapegoat gets blamed for the failure.
Well, the problem with that rise is the crash that follows when you run out of "other peoples' money to spend."
You don't beat China by ignoring their rampant theft, market manipulations, giving them subsidies, etc.
In trade there is no “beating” countries because all trade is ultimately between individuals. Trade means both parties consider themselves better off afterwards. Especially free trade. It’s politicians who see trade as a competition, not consumers. When people trade both parties say thank you. When governments get involved it becomes fuck you.
Yes, when you opponent insists on punching himself in the nuts, it's obviously your duty to stop him, preferably by punching yourself in the nuts.
As Greg Jensen must know he's speaking crap, one has to wonder what his motive is for saying it.
Possibly he wants to impress and flatter China in advance of some strategic investment there - there are, after all, plenty of opportunities - and so...
Just remember the 2008 Recession.
China crashed far worse than the USA did.
It is not as economically stable as it appears to be.
China as well as the USA's ZERO-Tax trade channel is the only reason China appears to be doing great (for now) to US residents. Course it wasn't that long ago people were praising Venezuela.
It's actually quite humorous to see the long list of sinking-ships the left puts on a pedestal. They must of been the biggest marketing campaign for the Titanic.
"lack the knowledge" to effectively manage an economy
Another dumb statement by someone who doesn't understand that the economy is not a billiards table. It's not a "lack of knowledge", it's that such knowledge is impossible. Just as it's impossible to know when a particular unstable atom will disintegrate, it's impossible to know just how the economy will progress.
The fantasy of "better knowledge" is what drives totalitarians to gather more and more data on the populace in the vain hope that this time they will know enough to foretell the future.
Free marketeers have to abandon the language of "insufficient knowledge". It only gives credence to totalitarian policies.