South Korea Avoids a Return to the Bad Old Days
President Yoon Suk Yeol tried to go down a path trodden by past South Korean military dictators. The Korean people wouldn’t let him.

North Korea is a dictatorship, and South Korea is a democracy. That's one of the most basic pieces of conventional wisdom about modern geopolitics. But it wasn't always so. From its independence in 1945 to its final democratization in 1987, South Korea suffered from a series of coups d'état and military dictatorships.
On Tuesday night, the ghosts of the bad old days came back. President Yoon Suk Yeol, facing corruption investigations and gridlock in the National Assembly, declared martial law, banning all political activities and independent media. Soldiers stormed the Assembly building as protesters attacked them with fire extinguishers.
A few hours later, Yoon lifted martial law after his own party and the National Assembly unanimously voted to stop military rule. It was the latest in a series of cartoonish, ham-handed coup attempts that failed over the past few years in the Democratic Republic of Congo, Bolivia, Peru, Russia, Brazil, and elsewhere.
The attempt at a military takeover fell apart soon after it started. In defiance of military orders, 190 members of the National Assembly managed to get into the building. All of them voted to end martial law—under South Korean law, the president must respect such a vote—and soldiers retreated from the building.
Yoon justified military rule by smearing his opponents as North Korean stooges. "I am declaring a state of emergency in order to protect the constitutional order based on freedom and eradicate shameful pro-North Korea anti-state groups that are stealing freedom and happiness of our people," Yoon said on the YTN television station.
The opposition called Yoon's move an obviously unconstitutional coup attempt. "Tanks, armoured personnel carriers and soldiers with guns and knives will rule the country. The economy of the Republic of Korea will collapse irretrievably," opposition leader Lee Jae-myung said in a livestream. "My fellow citizens, please come to the National Assembly."
The Korean Confederation of Trade Unions, the second largest workers association in the country, declared "an indefinite general strike until the Yoon administration steps down." In its statement, the confederation invoked past military coups in 1961 and 1979.
After decades of strongman rule violent transitions of power, South Korea finally became a democracy following the June Democratic Struggle, a mass uprising in June 1987 that forced military dictator Chun Doo-hwan to accept direct presidential elections and a new constitution.
Over the past few months, power in South Korea has been divided between Yoon, member of the right-wing People Power Party, and the left-wing Democratic Party, which controls the National Assembly. The day before the military takeover, Democratic Party lawmakers voted to reduce the government budget by 4 trillion won ($2.82 billion) against Yoon's will.
The declaration of martial law seems to have been a long shot attempt by Yoon to break the gridlock. But it may have backfired badly. The attempted takeover "may very well serve against Yoon's presumed intention to safeguard his rule, by potentially driving South Korean public opinion toward greater support of impeachment," writes James Park in Responsible Statecraft, where I used to be a reporter.
South Korea's most important military backer, the United States, was noncommittal throughout the crisis. Asked about the showdown at the National Assembly, U.S. State Department officials gave a series of vague nonanswers.
"Unfortunately, Washington has a long history of tolerating authoritarian behavior in South Korea, especially when the government in Seoul is right wing, for the sake of cohesion against the North Korean threat," Cato Institute senior fellow Eric Gomez said in a statement before Yoon ended martial law.
However, Gomez pointed out that "South Korea's democratization has led to massive improvements in personal and economic liberty, the general wellbeing of South Koreans, and Seoul's self-defense against North Korean attack."
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Is assaulting federal police with fire extinguishers suddenly cool again? It's hard to keep up.
The bodies must be stacking up like cordwood.
Covid was soooo two weeks ago, dude.
"Hang Mike Pence", "Execute General Milley", and other forms of LETHAL political violence are cool ONLY if advocated or done to support "Team R"!!! Motives matter!!!
Are the fire extinguishers used to support democracy or tyranny? To support orderly erections (listening to the results of erections) and transfers of power, or mobocracy? That, too, matters!
(I for one wish that more folks could be like Queen Spermy Daniels, Whose Farts Are Glazed in Vaseline, Blessed Be Her Name, and who supports Good, Clean, Honest Erections!!!)
CNN literally said it was reminiscent of J6.
Don’t fear the revolt!
(insurrection)!
All our times have come
Here, but now they’re gone
Seasons don’t fear the revolt
Nor do the wind, the sun, or the rain
(We can be like they are)
Come on, baby
(Don’t fear the revolt)
Baby, take my hand
(Don’t fear the revolt)
We’ll be able to fly
Baby, I’m your man
La, la la, la la
La, la la, la la
Valentine is done
Here but now they’re gone
Horst Wessel and Ashli Babbs
Are together in eternity
(Horst Wessel and Ashli Babbitt)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horst_Wessel
Horst and Babbs both wanted to grab political power through violence, and got back, what they were dishing out. Karma is a bitch! Live by the sword, die by the sword!
Refute it, bitch!
Tired, old, crappy copypasta. Refuted, motherfucker.
Number of J6ers convicted of insurrection = 0.
"From River to the Sea!"
That was your pals.
Hmm. Maybe US politics isn't so bad after all.
Democrats lowering the budget? It truly is upside down from us here.
Democratic Party lawmakers voted to reduce the government budget by 4 trillion
Words that will never appear in the American press, sadly.
Didn't you hear......
The [Na]tional So[zi]alist Germans workers party was right-wing......
According to Democrats.
Whatever cursed ideology they carry; It's all right-wings fault.
I'd imagine this narrative follows that exact same line of political wing identification.
‘Historian’ Dan Carlin and his Italian lapdog spent an entire podcast trying to make the case for Nazis being right wing. Sad to hear him twist the language to fit his ideology. Can never take him seriously again.
attacked them with fire extinguishers
Anyone shot in the face?
"Anyone shot in the face?"
Even worse. People protesting the martial law gathered in the streets around the Assembly and, I shit you not, blocked traffic.
I look forward to the day when people can talk about anything police related without fucking idiots genuflecting to J6. You guys are worse than race baiters. Same deal, but you never quit or move on.
Well you have to remember, Team Red is the center of the universe, and they are also perpetual victims. So continually talking about Jan. 6 permits them to place themselves where they belong, as the universe's greatest victims of all time.
Cope harder in your circle jerk, dorks.
Hey, Jeff, who exactly keeps bringing up J6?
Are you projecting or trying some Alinsky tactics?
Being Jeffy, probably both, albeit poorly in each.
Your team does. All the time. To project themselves as perpetual victims.
Sure, sure..... That's why they always lobby for Gov-Guns to pay for their student loans, housing, electric cars, solar panels, healthcare, education, etc, etc, etc, etc................... /s
Many J6 trespassers still sit in the gulag. Until Trump frees them, this should be mentioned every day to remind us how close we came to losing our democracy.
And I look forward to the day when pearl-clutching leftist catastrophists stop claiming that we were seconds away from a Nazi dictatorship.
We were seconds away from a catastrophe. It was only because Mike fkn Pence had a backbone that we didn't experience the constitutional crisis of a century.
What if Mike Pence had done what Trump and Eastman had told him to do, and unilaterally thrown the election to the House, where Trump was "elected"? What if Mike Pence had chosen not to count the Arizona and Pennsylvania and Georgia EC ballots? It would have been immediately appealed to SCOTUS, but what if SCOTUS punted and said 'it's a political question' and let the decision stand? There is a whole lot of horrible results that could have happened that didn't involve any direct violence on Jan. 6.
I despise what Team Red has become, nothing more than lickspittle sycophants to an Orange Fraud. I despise the social conservative Bible-thumping theocrats. But I have a tremendous amount of respect for what Mike Pence did that day. If Pence had been the nominee in 2024 I would have voted for him for that reason alone even though I disagree with about 80% of his policies.
Trump would be on his way out if Pence had thrown it to the House.
You get to live his second term now, instead.
"We were seconds away from a catastrophe."
Yes, and instead of that we got 2 wars, a crippling inflation, and a total chaos at the borders. A mentally retarded president. A near coup occurred when Harris and Obama threatened to invoke the 25th amendment if Biden didn't drop out.
You think Trump asking Pence to question election results is like the sequel to the firing on Fort Sumter. It isn't. Only a few weeks ago democrats in PA defied state supreme court and counted ballots that that went past election due date. Not a single word from you, the champion of election sanctity.
Meanwhile you think millions of people entering our borders unchecked every day is fine because "they just want to work". Why did Trump gain 15% more Latino vote, Chemjeff? I'm glad you're insulting our intelligence by asking "Why did Trump win?"
SCOTUS would have disallowed the fake electors because Gorsuch, Barrett, Thomas, and even Kavanaugh are principled, unlike the 3 Donkey witches.
To paraphrase Stalin, how many divisions does SCOTUS have?
Are you suggesting they should have the military power to enforce their decisions?
You are one sick Donkey.
I'm saying they can't enforce their decisions. That was essentially what Comrade Stalin was saying as well. You really didn't get that? Not the sharpest knife in the tool shed, I see.
I can tell you what worries me the most about JD Vance, is the 2028 election. He will preside over the EC vote counting and because he is a true MAGA believer I have no doubt he will absolutely do what Mike Pence refused to do in 2020 should there be any doubt whatsoever in the 2028 election results. (And yes, Team MAGA will manufacture doubt when necessary.) If there is going to be a MAGA dictatorship in this country it will be Vance who brings it into being, not Trump.
"If there is going to be a MAGA dictatorship in this country it will be Vance who brings it into being, not Trump."
Someone tell this guy that a vice president objecting to election results doesn't automatically invalidate elections on the spot, nor is it despotic per se.
You predict Vance going rogue out of nothing but thin air, whereas I can point to democrats defying court orders to count ineligible ballots and Britain sending people to jail over memes. OMG Britain is a dictatorship!
"There goes MAGA again, using dehumanizing language on our allies." yeah that's you, predictable as clockwork in your selective morality.
I look forward to the day authoritarian statists celebrating deaths and arrests of their political enemies stop pretending to be libertarian.
I know you hate J6, not for the government actions after, but for exposing you as the piece of shit statist hypocrite you are.
It was the latest in a series of cartoonish, ham-handed coup attempts that failed over the past few years in the Democratic Republic of Congo, Bolivia, Peru, Russia, Brazil, and elsewhere.
"Elsewhere" being America, circa July 2024, February 2024, and June 2023.
This was completely wild when I heard about it on the news. So as the article states, the constitution (very sensibly) grants Parliament the power to overturn a decree of martial law. And they of course did so, in which case, the president just... gives up? This is the most half-assed power grab in the history of power grabs. The president has to know that Parliament will not stop there, they will now try to impeach/depose his ass. What was he thinking? If he's going to go full dictator, he shouldn't stop with half measures.
This is the most half-assed power grab in the history of power grabs.
I don’t know, not taking any guns to an insurrection ranks up there.
OMG J6! Drink!
It looks to me like the Korean military really understands civilian control of the military and their oath - “나는 자랑스러운 태극기 앞에 자유롭고 정의로운 대한민국의 무궁한 영광을 위하여 충성을 다할 것을 굳게 다짐합니다.”
I'm sure that oath is meaningful even if it is incomprehensible.
What's incomprehensible about it?
"In front of the proud Taegeukgi (flag of the Republic of Korea), I am determined to fulfill my allegiance to the endless glory of a free and just Korea."
If he's going to go full dictator, he shouldn't stop with half measures
True. He should get a variety of kangaroo courts to attack his opponent, spy on their campaign, slander him with investigations based on phony dossiers, skip the primaries, install a replacement candidate in a secret d al, jail hundreds of peaceful protesters and other opposition supporters, and pardon his cronies.
Now, THAT’s how you coup!
It's almost like the media is lying about what is going on. They'd never lie about a conservative president, right? I find it hard to believe, with the current events in Korea, that the Korean Left isn't plotting against him with North Korean agitators.
Otherwise, jeffsarc is right, why wouldn't he go full dictator?
On something like this, it always makes me wonder what the hell is actually going on. I know enough to know that I'm only gonna get a fraction of the truth from the news media. At the same time, the news media is perfectly capable of being on the right side of things, provided of course it is in their personal interest to be.
So the South Korean president had a reason to do this, what was it? I'm not saying he was justified, it could be a bad reason. But right now they're making it sound like he's gone cray cray and is it doing it for uber-paranoid reasons. And that strikes me as unlikely.
It's that kind of omission that destroys a journalist's credibility. Unfortunately, all we seem to get here is one-sided narrative building
Yes, context hiding is a Reazon trick.
FDR's Bromance with Stalin was and still is celebrated (despite the fact Stalin was every bit as evil as Hitler) but the US putting up with military dictators in South Korea to keep the Stalinist regime of North Korea at bay is condemned? Sometimes you put up with bad people when you're fighting worst people. Sometimes geopolitics requires pragmatism. I mean look at all the shit we put up with in regards to Turkey due to its strategic location.
Gee what a surprise. An institution which places liberty as the highest priority, and not merely 'stopping communism' as the highest priority, might look askance at both communists trampling on liberty, and military dictatorships trampling on liberty. Why it's almost as if Reason isn't some bog-standard Republican rag.
Fighting evil with evil is still evil.
Haha! Nice virtue signal, absent any thought.
True blue Donkey you are!
Korea is experiencing massive gridlock because the opposition party (seemingly) is obstructing every policy from the president while advancing their own. Some budget cuts allegedly affect prosecutors preparing cases against Lee Jae Myung, who's sort of the Korean AOC but without her zaniness.
To make things easy - Korea is a banana republic. Corruption, negligence and nepotism color every aspect of society. That's the backdrop for most Korean controversies. The opposition party is also considered as crooked, but Yoon wildly overstepped by using martial law to solve the gridlock.
Most people live in dysfunctional societies, even in nominal democracies. "Living in Japan is so great" aren't the Japanese content you'll often see on Youtube. The TDS guys who think J6 was treason run many parts of the world.
Thank you. This feels more coherent and informative than what Petti wrote.
You need to broaden your sources. The corrupt practices of the president's wife and government cover ups are also germane, and more likely to contribute to the president's discombobulation.
You need to fuck off and die, shit-pile.
"That's the backdrop for most Korean controversies."
In this case the stance toward North Korea is important. The president is a hard liner and his antagonism is reflected in the North's increasing antagonism and alliance with Russia. The opposition prefers a softer line. What role if any the US played in this farce is unclear. As far as I know, the US still has ultimate control of the South Korean military.
As for Korean corruption and nepotism, it's there but not much different from that of Japan and much less pronounced than corruption and nepotism in the USA where presidents see to it that their criminal children go unpunished or put into positions where they can make millions from deals with Saudi princes and so on. When there is corruption in the Korean presidency, at least it doesn't go unpunished. Over the past few decades at least 4 ex presidents have done time in prison for their crimes committed while in office.
The population of California has much to learn from the South Koreans; Newsom should be swinging from a lamp-post.
Trump and Republicans win the 2024 election.
USA avoids progression of the bad old days of UN-Constitutional [Na]tional So[zi]al[ism].
The truly sad part is 'avoiding progression' of.......
This nation cannot even relate to its founding foundation anymore.
LESS BAD is the 'avoiding' marker.