Chicago Mayor Johnson's Budget Betrayal Would Raise Taxes on Small Businesses
A proposed alcohol tax hike will hit immigrant-owned liquor stores while city spending on nonessential projects remains high.

With Chicago facing an expected budget shortfall of nearly $1 billion next year, Mayor Brandon Johnson has unveiled his proposed 2025 budget. The plan not only reneges on the progressive's campaign pledge to not raise property taxes but also includes a steep hike on alcohol taxes.
Independent liquor stores will bear the brunt of Johnson's liquor tax. These small businesses are primarily immigrant-owned and are located in predominantly minority-populated neighborhoods of the Windy City. At the same time, Chicago continues to indulge in a decades-long spending spree that prioritizes everything from teacher pensions and art classes to fancy government office renovations.
Chicago's financial woes are no secret at this point, and the mayor's $17.3 billion proposed budget still includes a $982 million deficit. Johnson sought to fill the gap with a now-failed $300 million property tax hike alongside other "revenue enhancements" (a government euphemism for "we are raising your taxes"). Included in the dizzying array of budgetary numbers is a proposed ordinance to raise certain alcohol taxes by 34 percent.
Taxing alcohol has proven to be a popular idea among politicians as it often draws less scrutiny than income or property tax hikes. Therefore, it can act as a sort of backdoor revenue generator—but also one that is regressive in nature, given that it most significantly impacts lower-income populations that are less able to absorb the hike.
But the most severe threat posed by Chicago's planned alcohol tax escalation is the impact it would have on small businesses in the city, including craft distilleries and neighborhood liquor stores. The Distilled Spirits Council of the United States has projected that the tax could result in $25 million in lost retail sales and cost at least 300 Chicagoans their jobs.
Like in many large cities, Chicago's neighborhood liquor stores are often owned by Arab and South Asian immigrants and commonly operate in minority-populated neighborhoods. It is these small businesses that are most threatened by Johnson's alcohol tax increase.
It is not a mere matter of dollars and cents. Many of these businesses are located in the South Side of Chicago, which borders the Indiana state line. This poses a particular problem given that the Hoosier State's excise tax for distilled spirits sits at $2.68 per gallon. Chicago's current rate—when combined with Illinois' state liquor tax—is already over $13 per gallon.
"It is cheaper for Illinois retailers [such as neighborhood liquor stores] to buy at retail in Indiana than to buy at wholesale in Illinois," wrote Sean O'Leary, former chief legal counsel of the Illinois Liquor Control Commission, on his Irish Liquor Lawyer blog. "These businesses are presented with many bad choices, cheat and buy at retail in Indiana so you can make a profit, follow the rules and be uncompetitive in the marketplace, or go out of business."
The mayor's alcohol tax would potentially be more defensible were revenue strictly being used to fund vital government services, but the 2025 proposed budget still earmarks over $72 million to fund the city's Department of Cultural Affairs and Special Events, which dispenses grants to local artists and funds the Chicago Film Office's efforts to get more movies and TV shows filmed in the city (and boasts an 80-person work force totaling around $8 million in personnel costs).
The proposed budget also includes about $4 million in funding for the superhero-sounding "Graffiti Blasters"—a team of over 30 government employees that use "weapons" such as a "baking soda truck" and a chemical sprayer "loaded with citrus-based oil" to eradicate paint on walls. In a lesson of the-right-hand-doesn't-know-what-the-left-hand-is-doing variety, the Department of Cultural Affairs and Special Events dispenses grants to the Design Museum of Chicago, which has hosted classes teaching Chicagoans how to draw graffiti—graffiti that is then, presumably, "blasted" off by the Graffiti squad.
Johnson is no skinflint himself. Less than a year into his tenure, a Freedom of Information Act request from a local news station uncovered an at least $8,000 trip that the mayor and his coterie took to Los Angeles, and which included an extra two days in L.A. to attend the Grammy Awards. Prior to the latest budgetary drama, the mayor also attempted to pressure Chicago Public Schools leadership into taking a risky $300 million high-interest loan to fund teacher pensions—a move that even fellow progressives balked at, as evidenced by the resignation of the city's entire Board of Education in protest (all of whom were originally handpicked by Johnson himself).
Most recently, another local news investigation turned up invoices totaling more than $80,000 to renovate an office in the Chicago Cultural Center in which the mayor's wife plans to host visiting dignitaries. The furniture bill alone was $43,000, with even a staffer scoring a $4,600 desk, alongside the acquisition of a $2,200 "high-back executive chair" for the city's first lady.
On Thursday, the Chicago City Council dealt the mayor a devastating blow when it rejected his proposed $300 million property tax increase in a 50–0 vote. Earlier in the week, Johnson told reporters that "he was never serious" about the property tax increase, but proposed it "simply to shock the Council" into suggesting "serious revenue-raising alternatives," the Chicago Sun-Times reported.
The mayor's alcohol tax gambit is still in play, and if it is approved, it will be everyday Chicagoans—including the immigrant owners of neighborhood liquor stores—that will pay the price.
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Like in many large cities, Chicago's neighborhood liquor stores are often owned by Arab and South Asian immigrants and commonly operate in minority-populated neighborhoods. It is these small businesses that are most threatened by Johnson's alcohol tax increase.
Can we just stop doing this identitatian bullshit?
Race has nothing to do with if the taxes are bad or not.
Hey, how are Democrats going to start a race war without harping about race?
Slightly OT, but did you catch the story about Whoopi Goldberg going on th offensive because a bakery wouldn’t fulfill her cupcake order? Apparently she thinks there’s crazy right wingers on fucking Staten Island.
To be fair, Staten Island is by far the least progressive of all the boroughs. And, to Whoopi, not being on every modern ultra-progressive virtue signalling fad trend probably does mean “right winger.”
Maybe someone thought it was time to follow an esteemed congresswoman’s instructions to people with intolerant views and decided to “push back on them. And you tell them they’re not welcome anymore, anywhere.”
Or maybe Whoopi is just full of shit. I’m guessing it’s that last one.
Maybe she was drunk and being an entitled bitch?
This is where Team Red pretends to object to 'identity politics', but in reality, they practice their own version of it, just in disguise. They don't hesitate to push their preferred identity, which is that of straight white rural Christians, onto the rest of the country as the normative standard to which we all should aspire. They won't call it 'identity politics', instead they just call them 'normal people' or 'real Americans' or 'true patriots' or some such.
You mean people who support terrible American traditional values like self-sufficiency and reliance, low taxes, and families, who think America is still a good if not great country, and would generally like to be left alone? And if by pushing a "straight white rural Christian" agenda you mean constraints on abortion, then say it.
And guess what--people who are not male, white, or straight agree with these values, too. Your claim of both sides identity politics is bullshit since that meme is ONLY based on external appearance.
This is where Lying Jeffy pretends to object to ‘identity politics’ and then hates vociferously on Christians and anyone living outside of an urban core. (fat fucking clown)
And say, what’s this Lying Jeffy? Donald Trump made gains throughout NYC as Dem margins plummeted
Uh-oh…
What are the odds that Jeff had a really, really bad experience at Bible camp when he was 12?
Zero. But I bet that the Bible camp had a really bad experience with him.
JesseAZ, I have come to the conclusion that when Blue State Paradises want to do stupid shit like this, we should just cheer them on. It will just make the fiscal collapse happen faster.
Must help fund DEI activities and what better way to do that than through a sin tax!
The Marxist lied? Say it ain't so
I'd feel worse...but they have voted Democrat, overwhelmingly, for the better part of a century.
Cannot make a fool not make asinine decisions.
Think of it more like a tariff. The rich guys running those liquor stores can just absorb this additional cost.
No, you don't understand.
* Tariffs aren't taxes and actually lower prices.
*
NationalCity security is vital and not free.* Indiana residents are evil and have lower costs which are unfair to Chicago's working population.
I heard those evil indiana people import guns into Chicago.
I hear they own black slaves and make their women wear those funny dresses and head gear.
Don't worry. FBI is on those offensive text messages.
https://www.fbi.gov/news/press-releases/fbi-statement-regarding-offensive-text-messages
“Selected to pick cotton”.
Is that a job offer?
Agriculture is a threat to democracy.
And the planet!
Doing the jobs that Mexican slaves won't do.
Why we haven’t seen much of Pluggo lately. He’s on a klandestine mission to spread his joy.
Can I place my bet yet? I'm willing to lay down ten dollars that when they trace who is behind these texts (if they actually exist) will turn out to be a group of proggies, likely white, single female proggies upset that some blacks and a lot of Hispanics left the D plantation. What's the over and under on that bet?
Potential nominees for the 2024 Smollett awards.
End Wokeness
@EndWokeness
NEW: Pissed off Chicago residents slam Mayor Brandon Johnson (D) to his face, celebrate President Trump's victory:
Video
https://x.com/EndWokeness/status/1857508343172272199
That was awesome. "Oh that's right. You grew up in Elgin".
What I liked most about that was the sheer eloquence of those speakers. How much of that was due to editing, I don't know, but I don't care either. "Bad" grammar all over, but they said more in two words, and far more clearly, than politicians.
Keep it up proggies, and you'll turn more blacks red. Look at Virginia, look at New Jersey, look at New York, look at Illinois. All those single digit wins can easily turn into single digit losses if you keep this up. I think you've already gone a long ways to losing the Hispanic vote. You're now working hard on losing the black vote and then all you'll have left is the single cat ladies. Which is unfortunate, because the Republic is better served when we have two strong, adversarial parties competing.
Looks like the reds went red.
Oddly, Mayor Johnson might be the best thing to ever happen to Chicago. His tenure as mayor may break the Dems' lock on the city.
Libs of TikTok
@libsoftiktok
Jen Psaki says “laws have to change” because people are getting information from social media instead of TV
She also claims there’s no fact checking mechanism. False. Community Notes isn’t perfect but it does a far better job than the MSM “fact checkers”
Video
https://x.com/libsoftiktok/status/1857301757287911635
Psarc agrees
Psarc might agree but that's straight out of half the Lying Jeffy posts here.
Jeff has to be freaking out regarding Newguard losing their censorship powers. He spent years defending them as an unbiased guardian against misinformation.
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/x-sees-mass-return-major-advertisers-newsguard-boycott-cartel-come-under-fire
I especially like this quote from an FCC commissioner:
Yes! It was meant to filter out spam and obscenity, not reshape the political discourse. I am sick and tired of people treating §230 as some sort of holy grail, the First Amendment of the Internet.
I don't mind 230 as a whole, treating platforms as common carriers is a great idea, but the Good Samaritan clause has to go. That's the poison pill hidden inside.
It was meant to filter out spam and obscenity, not reshape the political discourse. I am sick and tired of people treating §230 as some sort of holy grail, the First Amendment of the Internet.
Let's say 230 is repealed. Then what?
My fear is the internet becoming as diverse and exciting as network TV once the feds are in charge of acceptable online speech.
Considering how much the Feds leaned on Big Tech to censor things the Biden way, it wouldn't be any worse and might actually get some honest First Amendment protection.
it wouldn’t be any worse
I think that's naive. With the government, give an inch, lose a mile.
and might actually get some honest First Amendment protection.
Really? I would expect the opposite.
You mean the government that was actively pushing censorship with the companies hiding behind 230? Fuck off with that dishonest BS, there was already rampant censorship on the internet, you just approved of it.
How does 230 currently stop fed interference? It mostly just stops consumers from suing over SV contract violations.
The text: “No provider or user of an interactive computer service shall be treated as the publisher or speaker of any information provided by another information content provider.
I think this is the protection 230 of silently saving the internet by preventing a fed takeover. Without this text, online platforms could be made common carriers which would then be regulated just like network TV.
Obviously the feds are interested in stopping the spread of “misinformation,” or as we know it here: information. I think without 230, they’d determine a lot of stories unsafe for public consumption. Social media companies are bad, but not worse than a deep state 3 letter agency.
The First Amendment prevents a Fed takeover, unless of course the Supremes protect their own as they have done so many times in the past, in which case §230 is just a speed bump.
The more words you give a lawyer, the more loopholes and quibbles they find. Look at that prefatory clause in the Second Amendment, or the Necessary and Proper clause, or all the other cases.
The Supreme Court "confirmed" the common law judge-made judicial immunity in 1967, invented qualified immunity for all government employees the same year, and invented prosecutorial immunity in 1976. I bet most people thought those concepts dated back centuries.
The government isn’t being blocked by §230.
You make good points for a simple repeal of 230. However, I don't think a simple repeal is on the table. And I think government lawyers are seeing a lack loopholes now, thus this ominous proposal from the DOJ:
A second category reform would increase the ability of the government to protect citizens from harmful and illicit conduct. These reforms would make clear that the immunity provided by Section 230 does not apply to civil enforcement actions brought by the federal government. Civil enforcement by the federal government is an important complement to criminal prosecution.
https://www.justice.gov/archives/ag/department-justice-s-review-section-230-communications-decency-act-1996#:~:text=The%20combination%20of%20significant%20technological,with%20little%20transparency%20or%20accountability.
That is a liability waiver. Has nothing to do with federal Oversight.
It means you can't sue a website because someone else posted slander about you.
That's section C1. C2 is civil liability. I'm not a lawyer, but if what you say is the case, why is the left so keen to repeal 230?
The left wants to repeal it as a threat to get them yk censor. They’ve already worked to get them to act as censors. 230 doesn’t act as a means to stop regulations from becoming law. Congress can change laws at anytime. 230 doesn’t stop them.
The right wants to remove 230 because it has morphed into allowing favored groups to violate standard contract laws which stops their customers from suing them over violations.
How do you think 230 would stop Congress from passing a different law? It wasn’t a constitutional amendment.
The threat is to remove the liability protections if they don't act in the manner democrats want.
How do you think 230 would stop Congress from passing a different law?
I don't. Congress passing a new law is what I'm arguing against right now.
I say just repeal it.
I don’t see a libertarian reason to give favored companies extra legal protections especially when they are abusing it.
Books and newspapers don't seem to be censored in the way social media is, nor do they lack diversity of opinion (by this, I mean that newspapers as an industry, obviously all of them are ideologically closed).
I think online as a whole is A LOT less censored than newspapers. And there is way more variety of opinion online than in newspapers.
You asked what the online world would look like with 230. I provided places where that isn't a thing.
OK. That’s fair.
Whack-a-Mole = Let’s say 230 is repealed. Then what?
No. It was meant to let platform owners decide FOR THEMSELVES what they considered to be "objectionable content". Because "objectionable" is in the eye of the beholder.
I think the owners of a Christian forum would rightly consider pro-atheism content to be 'objectionable', right? And vice-versa. So why shouldn't that site owner have the legal authority to censor that content on their own platform, even if there is no pornograhy?
The solution is simple: declare yourself a publisher, then this won't matter.
Because as usual, §230 was worded as poorly as possible to give lawyers and judges as much leeway as possible. The ostensible use was to allow moderating "family friendly" sites, to curb the porn and spam. Deleting accounts and comments for their political and woke content was a later modification.
Don't bleat it wasn't censorship. You just look ignorant and pathetic, and ruin what little credibility you think you have left. You lost the election, there's no one left to signal virtue to, so grow up.
As to your last point, Big Tech does not market themselves as narrowly targeted but as Big Tent all-inclusive ways for family and friends to stay in touch, and for businesses to build online communities. Their censorship violates their own terms of service, and there's this concept you maybe are ignorant of called truth in advertising, fit for purpose, merchantability, and several other names. Selling a toaster which doesn't toast is fraud. Selling a social media site which cancels accounts for no reason and has no effective appeals process is the same kind of fraud.
Yet using the legal system to prosecute these claims of defective merchandises is effectively impossible.
Here's a question for you, which you won't even try to answer: What is a small restaurant supposed to do when Facebook or Google cancels the account they've had for five years and throws away that hard-earned community they've been building up, and provides no explanation of any kind?
Go on. Exercise that mighty brain. Show how §230 has any bearing on the case.
“We need moar lawz!”
Also "you only have to follow laws sarc finds moral!!"
Repeal all laws and the crime rate will drop to zero! /Jeffy
Prohibit all property rights and eliminate theft.
Nothing has made MSM obsolete as much as MSM. “Control the narrative” is as unattractive as some fat, squawking , blue-haired beastly creature.
Shorter progressive rant: Shut up and obey me!
How about we all check the facts on our own like we used to?
How do you keep up with all the changing facts?
JD Vance is wrong about abolish the changing facts.
Don't have to. Just like I am no climate scientist, but AGW proponents wouldn't have to lie like they do if they had truth on their side, they wouldn't have to bully opponents if they had facts on their side, and that's all I really need to know. CRT/DEI are too internally inconsistent to hold water. Transgender mutilation went from one of the worst horrors of the world when African tribes did it 15 years ago, but now is so proper that at least two states have made it child abuse to NOT mutilate your child's genitals after their public school teachers have interpreted the child's thoughts and actions without telling the parents.
You can learn a lot just by seeing who supports and opposes something, and how they do so. Jeffy and sarc will never learn that lesson.
Entire Entrenched Government Bureaucracy To Be Dismantled By Indian Guy And Autistic African American Obsessed With Rockets
I like this one.
https://babylonbee.com/news/appalling-new-trump-appointee-has-zero-experience-being-a-useless-government-bureaucrat
Somehow they got their hands on Sullum's Monday screed.
Also from the Bee: Biden Administration Declares Trump Cabinet Picks ‘Unqualified’
Warning--do not view before, during, or after eating.
This one is fun:
New Department Of Government Efficiency Identifies 535 Government Workers Who Haven’t Done Anything For Years
But I'd actually like that crew to be even less productive.
Food trucks hardest hit
Chain Reaction
A fascinating uranium chronology in three points:
- The US Treasury Department lifted the ban on Russian banks on resource transactions, and in particular on uranium;
- Biden administration officials have backed increasing the U.S. nuclear arsenal to simultaneously deter China, Russia and North Korea;
- Mishustin signed a decree according to which Russia temporarily stops deliveries of enriched uranium to the United States in order to redirect it to India, Iran and China - those countries in which domestically produced reactors are installed.
- Intel Slava Z (from the land free of MAPedo)
Boomerang effect on full display here. A unipolar bitchslap.
Remember, the adults are in charge.
In Russia?
"Chicago Mayor Johnson's Budget Betrayal Would Be a Boost for Bootlegging from Indiana. Price of Tommy Guns Goes Up in Chicago Area"
Good. In fact I hope Johnson further doubles taxes, and spending. We need a major blue city to default, preferably while Trump is in office and the GOP controls congress.
Are there still small businesses in Chicago with all that crime, corruption and high taxes?
Really?
Even Caterpillar and John Deere left the Land of Lenin.
As the story says, most of the small businesses in the inner city are owned by immigrants who are not afraid to shoot back. "Doing the jobs that Americans won't."
. . . I find that I have exactly zero fucks to give about Chicagoans being utterly crushed by Brandon Johnson. They've all had a year since his election to sell any property they had in the city and move out, with no Berlin Wall or Border Patrol to stop them. At some point you've got to own your choices.
with no Berlin Wall or Border Patrol to stop them.
For now...
In the Grimsrud household hizzoner is affectionately referred to as Pinhead due to his uncanny resemblance to beloved 70s celebrity Zippy. Parents of young children would, of course, be wise to limit their exposure to his blank stare and incoherent bleatings . We are blessedly outside his grasp here in the hinterlands so we watch from afar as he diligently destroys the carcass of a once great city.
Here's a really clear example of how governments illegally redefine themselves with no accountability and no consequences. It's wonky but short, and easy to shorten for here.
https://reason.org/transportation-news/fresh-thinking-for-industry-planners-and-vmt/#b
A bill was passed authorizing brownfield projects. The bureaucrats awarded $49 million to unauthorized greenfield projects using unauthorized methods of funding.
It's the same story, over and over. Rule of Law, administered by unaccountable bureaucrats, is shown to be Rule of Men, over and over and over.
And if anyone tried to take this to the courts, the Supreme Court has already got your number, ruling that merely being a taxpayer does not confer standing. I remember some decision even saying that Congress Critters don't have standing.
When authority exceeds accountability, you have corruption. When accountability exceeds authority, you have scapegoats.
And when people are tired of authority, lack of accountability, and lame scapegoats, you have Trump.
I have always hated unions for the government taking their side in allowing them to be monopolies when businesses can't, but they are so ingrained in culture that it wasn't until a few years ago that I realized the very act of striking was government taking their side. I don't care if workers want to agree with each other on minimum conditions and quitting en masse. I do object to government making it illegal for businesses to replace workers who quit.
Anyway, this is about that 3 day port strike a month ago.
https://reason.org/transportation-news/fresh-thinking-for-industry-planners-and-vmt/#f
The lack of long term planning is amazing. How do those clowns think their employers can afford 61% pay raises without increasing their efficiency?
They can stall automation for a while, but not stop it, and when it arrives, I hope it throws 90% of them out of work.
Just another example of government fucking things up. If the ILA didn't have government on their side, they couldn't do this.
But the purpose of democracy is to give partisan groups corrupt influence and power over others, isn't it?
While pretending to do otherwise.
This reminds me of the dockworkers unions in Australia and New Zealand during the Second World War. They wouldn't work if it rained. Took hours long breaks, putting loading and unloading of critical military supplies drastically behind schedule, as in even impacting the Battle of Guadalcanal until the Marine 1st division commander Vandergrift, had his Marines and Turner had his sailors start acting as longshoreman and then the unions got all pissed off that the Marines and Sailors were doing their jobs. The Australians complained about MacArthur putting American quartermaster troops (many of them blacks) in charge of loading and unloading US military supplies. Luckily, the governments of Australia and New Zealand ignored the protests, realizing that the US was doing the bulk of the fighting and also supplying the bulk of the military supplies for their own armed forces.
>A proposed alcohol tax hike will hit immigrant-owned liquor stores
Yeah. But you don't ask 'why does he feel the tax is necessary'.
Because of all the spending he wants to do to protect *illegal* immigrants.
So I guess those immigrant store owners better suck it up and pay - because in 30 years some of those 'refugees' they're supporting will have opened up successful restaurants!
Outlook for Healthcare Stocks Dims With Choice of Kennedy to Lead HHS
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In late October, the co-chair of Trump’s transition committee, Cantor Fitzgerald CEO Howard Lutnick, seemed to tell CNN that Kennedy wasn’t in contention for the HHS job.
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Now, Trump’s apparent reversal, announced late Thursday, makes it impossible to guess what might come next for the healthcare industry. Kennedy is unlike anyone else to ever hold the position.
https://www.barrons.com/articles/healthcare-stocks-rfk-hhs-kennedy-trump-3e6bc449
Team of Morons.
This will be the worst cabinet in modern history.
In 2017 Trump actually chose some qualified people.
Tom Price, Gary Cohn, Rex Tillerson, --- of course they all grew to despise the Fat Orange Fascist and quit or got fired.
This time - bootlickers, TV barkers, and crackpots.
Needs more tranny luggage thieves?
Cope and seethe, child porn spreader.
Jesse just posted this above in an anticipatory response to Buttplug trying to get his old fifty-centing job back.
APPALLING: New Trump Appointee Has Zero Experience Being A Useless Government Bureaucrat
Local story.
Matt Gaetz says if Roy Moore allegations are true, he 'shouldn't be free walking among us'
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Gaetz said he agreed with other Republicans that if the allegations made in a Washington Post report about former Alabama Supreme Court Chief Justice Roy Moore were true, he shouldn't be in the senate or the Republican party.
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"I absolutely agree that if the allegations are, they are hideous," Gaetz said. "They are disgusting, and Roy Moore should step aside. And frankly, shouldn't be free walking among us."
https://www.pnj.com/story/news/politics/2017/11/10/matt-gaetz-says-if-roy-moore-allegations-true-he-shouldnt-free-walking-among-us/853156001/
This pretty much sums up today's GOP. Hypocrites as one pedophile calls out another pedophile while the Speaker vows to protect said pedophile.
Speaking of hypocrite pedophiles calls out people falsely accused of being pedophiles… You had to know posting this would make you look retarded.
Especially since the usual evidenceless smear tactic from the execrable Garland DOJ was never even followed up upon let alone charged, let alone the fact that you posted child porn links here and got your original handle banned...
Rich coming from you - a member of the largest pedophile ring in history run out of Vatican City by full time groomers.
The Canadian anthropologist is Catholic?
He hasn't admitted it here (as far as I know).
I thought he is a Calvinist but he denied it. I am not going to run down the entire 2-3 thousand derivatives of X-tianity.
They all spring from the same myth so it matters little.
I got married in the church and even did the communion deal (her family asks less questions) so in the eyes of some I am a Catholic.
Man. You both are even religious bigots standard with the pro pedo wing of the far left democrats. Also a favorite of communists. Weird.
“The Canadian anthropologist is Catholic?”
Lol, no. Buttplug just knows the words, not what they mean.
“I thought he is a Calvinist but he denied it.”
That’s because, like most things, you had zero idea what Calvinism actually is. You blended it all together with other words you didn’t (and still don’t) understand like Evangelical, Fundamentalist, Pentecostal and Charismatic.
I’ve told you clowns already I was baptized Lutheran as a baby but never confirmed.
I haven’t been to a regular church service in years, but unlike you goat-worshipping neo-pagans, I know basic Christian theology and don’t have a misplaced semi-retarded hatred of the West’s largest and most tolerant religion.
Sometimes your stupidity is amusing, but lately it’s becoming tiresome.
See my speculation above about young Jeff's hazing at Bible camp.
Ahem. Public schools. Full of Democrats. Not even close lol.
Yes we know, Democrat = Pedophile. Isn't that right?
But don't you dare say Republican = Racist. That is an outrageous slander.
Lol. Jeff can't handle it.
Did I say all democrats? I said public schools, which are filled with democrats. Do you deny this?
But which party supports MAPs and normalization?
Is WaPo a good source? Or no longer valid?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2020/10/15/sexual-assault-k-12-schools/
It is weird how you and Mike always try to claim someone said all. Almost like you can't make an intelligent argument sans strawman.
Do we want to bring up racism jeff?
I mean your white savior allies who think minorities are too stupid to get an ID. More racial incidents in blue wall NE states. Democrats call every black conservative an uncle Tom and attack them as race traitors.
Do you want me to go into the history of the DNC?
You own both the pedophiles and the racists.
Your party wants a pedophile to be Attorney General.
No. Team R does not want you to be AG. You are stupid, you are racist, you support crap, and you are a pedophile.
I get that false narratives are your thing.
Why did DoJ drop charges? Why did DoJ go after the person who made the accusations for blackmail?
You’re fucking retarded shrike.
Buttplug as AG? You're at least 300 millionth on the list. But please, quit your job in anticipation.
The bowling alley wouldn’t be able to operate without him as janitor!
Which candidate had a more diverse voter demographic?
Oh, and fuck you.
Pluggo posted a link to child porn? In Reason comments?!?!
That’s just as silly as saying chase is gay.
You spent 3.8 years shilling for an Administration so pathetic, voters who lived through it said "Yeah we actually want Donald Trump back."
LOL
Whatever it is, I’m sure Democrats did it first. That makes it ok.
Pluggo was the first, and to date only, commenter to post links to child pornography here. He may have donated to Act Blue thus making him a conservative.
Boring and dumb.
Ideas™ !
Let's see what Our Lord and Savior Donald J. Trump have in store for us today.
https://www.cnn.com/2024/11/16/politics/donald-trump-immigration-plans/index.html
Huh, so Trump is going to construct new 'detention facilities' for all of those migrants he is planning on rounding up. Can we call them 'concentration camps'? Is that okay? Or is that not okay now? I mean, if the government places sick people into 'quarantine facilities', like in Australia, I was told that was a 'concentration camp' and an outrageous deprivation of liberty.
Oh, also from the article.
Huh. More of these large-staging-facilities-that-are-totally-not-concentration-camps near the border. The problem with these large scale 'staging facilities' and 'detention facilities' is that the conditions in them are bound to be squalid. There is no way to stuff millions of people into these facilities and arrive at any other outcome. But I know Lord Trump and his allies would never permit such a thing, because he has told us all how horrible it is when prisoners suffer "inhumane treatment".
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/03/10/jan-6-defendants-dc-jail-gop/
We know that principled defenders of liberty like MTG would never tolerate such 'human rights abuses' to take place at these 'detention facilities', right?
I'm beginning to suspect it may have been a tactical error for Democrats to decide only "racists" and "white nationalists" want a secure border.
Because that just giftwraps the issue for Republicans. Voters might even elect a Republican who enforces the border in a way chemjeff finds distasteful. 🙁
Jeff and the white savior party knows better than the minorities.
https://www.axios.com/2024/04/11/poll-latino-support-border-wall-deportations-jumps
https://www.thecentersquare.com/national/article_8e253ef0-cbc2-11ec-aa4c-1f92a847243f.html
https://www.newsweek.com/most-americans-support-trump-closing-us-border-banning-asylum-seekers-amid-pandemic-poll-1522963
This is why Jeff hates populism and demands we be controlled by the self chosen elite.
Yup, "democracy" as decided by our betters.
“Experts”.
The thing that the proggies never considered is that many immigrants leave their country of origin to get away from the crime, and crazies back home. The last thing the want is for the US to let in a bunch of the very criminals and crazies they came here to escape. I also wouldn't be surprised if that had something to do with Trump winning Dearborn. A sizable number Muslim immigrants living in the US could very well not be exactly pleased to see the same morons they thought they left back in the Sandbox chanting 'From the river to the sea'. Rather than being pleased by the open borders and the anti-Semitism/pro-terrorist bullshit, many in these groups quite possibly were repulsed by it instead. Additionally, which neighborhoods have these gangs etc that crossed the border move into? Not Beverly Hills or Martha's Vineyard, that's for damn sure. Who are the preying on?
Maybe the folks who run Fulton County Jail can be contracted to run these?
The Trump prison camps will be like that stupid fucking wall that Mexico was supposed to pay for - not happening.
He is just grifting his cult followers again.
Part of me thinks you’re right. No one really knows how many illegal immigrants there are in this country, so Trump could just make up a number and say that’s the number we’ve deported and his cult followers would totally believe it.
But the other part of me thinks that Trump and his allies – more so his allies, IMO – don’t really give a shit anymore. I think people like Honan and Miller are totally fine stuffing millions of people into concentration camps. And what is anyone going to do about it? Don't forget it was this same crew which came up with the original 'family separation for purposes of deterrence' policy, in which the government deliberately created orphans. They really don't give a fuck what happens to these people.
It is too big a job. They (government in general) lack the competence to pull it off. Cost estimate = $88 billion per one million detain/trial/deportations - I can find the source but it isn't important.
The only organization capable of it would be the US Military.
Just shutting off the freebies gets it done for free.
Do that.
Hell, you got my support.
You should be aware that leaves about 90% of them here (the self sufficient ones plus their families).
That is not what your Dear Leader campaigned on though.
90% aren't self sufficient retard. Lol.
You’re an idiot.
The share of immigrant men (18 to 64) in the fourth quarter of 2023 without a bachelor’s degree in the labor force is 85.5 percent, higher than the rate for U.S.-born men, but still below the 86.4 percent in 2019.
https://cis.org/Report/Employment-Situation-Immigrants-and-USborn-Fourth-Quarter-2023
Omegalul, trying to prove they are sending their best by proving they aren't sending their best.
Fucktard child porn spreader.
How the fuck is that supposed to help your case?
Why are you mixing up legal and illegal immigrants while also proving your own 90% to be false?
Did you read your own citation and not understand it?
Which word confused you?
without a bachelor’s degree in the labor force
But that is also part of the plan - declare another fake 'national emergency' so they can use military resources to fund their concentration camp wet dreams.
And that $88 billion estimate assumes that they follow the rules - detainees get due process, get a chance to challenge their deportation, etc. With this crew, I don't think they will be terribly concerned about due process. It will be more like, round up the family when they are picking the kids up from school, throw them in a detention camp, and then deport them the next day. If members of the family are actually US citizens, or have legal residency, then who cares, let them file a court challenge from Guatemala.
Look at how many people here refused to acknowledge that the Haitians in Springfield actually were here legally, look at how many people here still continue to refer to asylum seekers as "illegals" even though they followed the law. This crew is not interested in following the letter of the law, they follow the "law" that is in their heads.
But that is also part of the plan – declare another fake ‘national emergency’ so they can use military resources to fund their concentration camp wet dreams.
But that's not going to happen now that they've been voted out.
The source was a leftist bullshit artist lol.
America is spending 150B a year on the problem.
no wingnut.com or ZeroHead.com
We told you not to lie, Jesse.
Lol. The source is AIC you retarded fuck.
Are you really this fucking dumb?
The American Immigration Council estimated that it could cost $88 billion annually to deport one million people a year. The removal of millions of construction, hospitality and agriculture workers could reduce the U.S. gross domestic product by $1.7 trillion.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/mass-deportations-cost-government-resources-60-minutes/
This has FAIL written all over it.
Of course I am the world's biggest skeptic.
Rule in business ; Never attempt a project unless the payoff is at least 10x the investment.
Most projects fail.
This one is doomed.
American Immigration Council estimated that it could cost $88
They are a pro open borders, immigrant advocacy groups lol. Go look at their history of all the profit for ignoring the problem. They are full of shit.
No wonder you believe them.
And yes Jeff, this is an ad hominem based on their history. Unlike your hate of CISA which takes numbers of actual costs from the federal and state governments. AIC uses bullshit models, not actual data.
You morons are like that idiot Bernie Sanders.
Bernie: WE NEED SINGLE-PAYAH HEALTH CARE!
How much will it cost Bernie?
WE CANT AFFOHD NOT TO DO IT!
Idiot Trumptards when asked the cost of deporting 10 million?
COST DONT MATTER!
We understand your desire for undocumented minors to remain in the US given your pedophilic proclivities highlighted by you posting links to cp here from your account that got banned for doing that.
The AIC pasted false costs. Obvious to anyone who isnt a retard. Sorry if they makes you angry shrike.
From the outset. I can show you.
88B a year annually for 1M.
They assume court costs for hearing asylum claims.
1.5M already have final deportation orders. There are no court costs for them. Just tickets. Explain how that first 1.5M costs 88B.
If you had even a smidgen of intelligence you would see how much bullshit youre posting.
Then there is the 1M+ criminals. They have no claim to be here at all. It would be a violation of asylum status. Immediate deportation. Again. Travel costs. How are they costing 88B.
And even with their bullshit estimates, it is half of what is currently spent based on actual data.
They ignore self deportation when welfare or jobs dry up, see covid years.
So basically you’re angry that someone who isn’t retarded doesn’t blindly buy your obvious bullshit narratives.
1.5M already have final deportation orders. There are no court costs for them.
Not necessarily true. There are cases in which even a 'final' order can be appealed.
https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/when-is-order-removal-final.html
https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/i-was-ordered-removed-absentia-what-can-i-do.html
Basically: if a migrant does not show up for their hearing, then that migrant is issued a 'final deportation order' in absentia. But if that migrant can later show that he/she never received the notice to show up, then even the 'final' deportation order can be appealed. So how many of those 1.5 million people who received a 'final' deportation order, have exhausted all appeals? Do you know?
Then there is the 1M+ criminals. They have no claim to be here at all.
Again, this is not necessarily true.
https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/crimes-that-will-make-immigrant-deportable.html
Basically, there are two categories of crimes that constitute grounds for deportation: "aggravated felonies" and "crimes of moral turpitude". These categories are a little vague. What makes a felony "aggravated"? It depends. What make a crime one that violates "moral turpitude"? It depends. All of these can be appealed. Furthermore, what if a migrant was convicted of a crime, but that crime was later expunged, such as with many marijuana convictions? The DOJ has said that that doesn't matter, the migrant can be deported anyway. But that is not law, that is a DOJ opinion. That can also be appealed. There is a lot of due process, and it can get expensive. That is part of where the $88 billion comes from.
And even with their bullshit estimates, it is half of what is currently spent based on actual data.
That's not true. I thought you were supposed to be good at math? The $88 billion figure was the estimate to deport just 1 million people, not all illegal immigrants.
Let's assume for the moment that there are 10 million illegal immigrants in the country. That means, according to this estimate, that it would cost $880 billion to deport them all.
"Oh," you say, "1.5 million of them have 'final deportation orders', and 1 million of them are criminals, and even though I am retarded and I think that those can't be appealed, I will just assume that they will all be deported right away. So those don't cost hardly any money at all!" Fine - let's assume that it costs NOTHING to deport those 2.5 million people. That leaves 7.5 million people who still need to go through their immigration proceedings and their due process, and it would cost (according to this estimate) $88 billion x 7.5 = $660 billion to deport them all. Which is over 4x more than your $150 billion figure.
"Oh," you say, "the $88 billion estimate is bullshit." Fine, let's suppose it is in error by a factor of four, so it only costs $22 billion. That would mean it would cost $22 billion x 7.5 = $165 billion, still more than your $150 billion figure.
And as we both know, there are really more than 10 million illegal immigrants, and those 2.5 million that we assumed would be cost-free to deport, that assumption is not correct. And to top it off, your $150 billion figure includes the cost of enforcement. So even if every illegal immigrant were magically deported tomorrow, that $150 billion figure is not going to go to zero. The government is still going to pay for border security and prisons to hold the migrants that are caught at the border.
So yeah, the comparison to BernieBros is kinda accurate here. You want to deport them all and money is no object, just like for the BernieBros, they want government-run health care and the cost is immaterial to them as well.
So can we please stop pretending that the desire to deport illegal immigrants has anything to do with saving money, in any rational sense?
Sad.
AIC uses bullshit models, not actual data.
Is that so.
https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/research/mass-deportation
They used government data too.
Oh, and they also considered the possibility of self-deportation in their estimate. Maybe you should actually read the report.
I’m not sorry this is happening to you.
The migrants can go home if they do not feel like waiting for a determination if they can continue to stay in the United States.
There is no civil right to migrate wherever you please.
How the far right is evolving and growing in Canada
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Historically, Canada has always had a few active far-right groups, including the Ku Klux Klan in the 1920s and Nazis and fascists before the Second World War.
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The COVID-19 pandemic further served as a platform to peddle globalist conspiracy theories and cultivate contempt for governments, news media, science, racialized people and any form of speech that might contradict the white supremacist discourse of the far right.
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Within the general chaos, some overarching, common beliefs can be found. That the state and its institutions, as well as the democratic foundations of western societies, are corrupt, weak or desperately vulnerable to mismanagement. That white Canadians are threatened by replacement and disappearance by scheming elites.
https://theconversation.com/how-the-far-right-is-evolving-and-growing-in-canada-242004
Definitely describes a certain poster here.
Still pissing your pants about rightwing boogeymen, I see.
Do you think these Canadians will pull off an attack that matches the carnage of the SECOND INSURRECTION BY RIGHTWING EXTREMISTS on 9 / 18 / 21?
Sandy baby, you cannot trust any of those stumble-drunk babyseal-killing shit-wallowing Canucks.
Except for Neil Young.
What happened to your original account?
Isn’t he the guy who posted links to kiddy porn? Disgusting.
How the far right is evolving and growing in Canada
Bruh, we literally just had this come out of Canada:
https://reduxx.info/exclusive-female-inmate-assaulted-by-canadian-transgender-child-rapist-in-womens-prison-sustained-broken-ribs-eyewitness-reports/
A pedophile man, who literally raped a baby (so bad that the baby required reconstructive surgery as a result of the brutal assault), was convicted - and then immediately decided to put on a dress and call himself Sally (or, in this case, Tara) KNOWING that Canadian "authority" would without a second thought put him in a women's prison. In this case, one specifically for mothers and their infants.
Then, after months of being a leering creeper that was openly threatening the children in said prison, a mother/inmate had the audacity to call him what he is: a pedophile.
At which point the pedophile man, housed by Canadian "authority" with women and children, then beat her within an inch of her life.
At which point Canadian "authority" blamed the victim for "inciting" the pedophile... by calling him what he is. And punished her instead of him.
Also, just for kicks, the pedophile is also a cannibal. And drowned a three year old when he was eleven.
And Canadian "authority" is considering temporarily releases (especially since he also claims to be a Native Canadian who is entitled to attend "cultural ceremonies" of his "native people") because they believe this guy should be reintegrated into Canadian society.
But yea, that's super totes the "far right" evolving and growing up in Maple Syrup Beaverville.
"Historically, Canada has always had a few active far-right groups, including the Ku Klux Klan in the 1920s"
Funny that the guy who calls black people "lawn jockeys, "porch monkeys" and "shine boys" is trying to throw shade on me. A Metis Canadian.
Unlike Buttplug's Klavern, Western Canada had no slaves or blacks, so the Saskatchewan Klan targeted Germans and Ukrainians.
No, really.
And just so folks here don't forget what Buttplug is really about, here's some of his posts:
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Uncle Clarence has had his hand out for over 20 years.
GIMME DAT WHITIE MONEY!
That fucking cop lover.
Sarah Palin’s Buttplug 2 2 hours ago
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Taking on Katanji Brown Jackson for lowest IQ affirmative action hire
Uncle Clarence a candidate.
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Sandy, I had a genuine fear that a Senator Walker would be shucking and jiving us good liberty-loving Georgians every day.
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Many have asked for an update to the Buttplug Horse Race:
Tim Scott 400-1 Whuffo Bro? Whuffo is you in dis race fo, bro?
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Dude, I am from the South. You can’t troll me on race.
Do you remember Spermin’ Herman Cain? He sounded like a slave extra from Song of the South.
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No, you’re a fucking snowflake who only gets offended when one of your Lawn Jockeys is criticized.
Sarah Palin’s Buttplug 2 28 mins ago
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Groveling like a shoe-shine boy, Tim Scott humiliates himself for Fatass Donnie.
Sarah Palin’s Buttplug 2 38 mins ago
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SE Cupp is a conservative commentator who is ashamed of Tim Scott’s groveling ‘Happy slave” act concerning Donnie.
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Tim Scott’s Vice Presidential Debasement Is Almost Complete
Debasement? Are you for real? This smacks of racism.
Tim Scott’s twerking and jiving is just him feeling that ole-timey religion.
Sarah Palin’s Buttplug 2 7 hours ago
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Fact checking Tim Scott – Trump’s black friend/shine boy:
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How many little lawn jockeys are in your yard? I bet it looks like a scene from a Tarzan movie out there.
Such a racist.
has unveiled his proposed 2025 budget
Did he call it Project 2025? Because that's what I'm going to insist it be called.
This is Bad, Anyway You Slice It
Chinese student kills eight in stabbing spree after failed exam.
The knifeman killed eight people and wounded 17 before he was arrested and confessed to his crimes, police have said.
- various eastern channels
Hopefully Alex Jones says nithing about this lest the victims’ next of kin sue him for billions.
I’m sure this had the community on edge.
Asian tiger mom at fault?
Obviously, time for common sense knife control.
It's worked for England.
Except for that recent case of a Muslim killing girls at a dance event. But hey, the police sure cracked down the protesters.
I heard that they were rioters.
"World Ending! Minorities and Women hardest hit!" was a joke about 40 years ago and yet "journalists" still do it.
Even at supposedly libertarian magazines.
My response to the self-immolation of decaying Big Blue Cities is: Point and laugh. There is quite literally nothing that can be done for or about them. The only downside to the corruption in big city plutocracy is that the high concentration of democrats there frequently represent the majorities in state-wide elections such as for Governors, Supreme Courts and Presidential Electors. The sooner those cities devolve into terminal chaos, the better for all of us. Upon review, I believe that it's unlikely that their demise will take the rest of us down with them when they go. But since there is nothing that can possibly work to save them from themselves anyway, the sooner and faster they disappear the less damage they can do to the national infrastructure before they go.
Also: would someone please check on the constitutionality of preventing Democratic fugitives who are trying to escape from dying Big Blue cities and states from metastasizing their cancerous progressive voting proclivities to their new locales?
Simp-le.
Refuse to process their voter registrations.
Become a NIMBY on state/county/city taxpayer subsidized "AFFORDABLE" housing.
Progressives don't do free market housing - ever.
I have proposed a 30 year waiting period before they can register to vote anywhere else.
Like in many large cities, Chicago's neighborhood liquor stores are often owned by Arab and South Asian immigrants and commonly operate in minority-populated neighborhoods. It is these small businesses that are most threatened by Johnson's alcohol tax increase.
I was ok with Johnson's tax increases until I read this. Now I'm not so sure about them.
" The plan not only reneges on the progressive's campaign pledge to not raise property taxes but also includes a steep hike on alcohol taxes."
Demonstrating once again Chicago democrats can't handle money and are monumental liars.
Brandon Johnson is a bright young man with a Democrat POTUS, DNC head or senate political run and future written all over him:-)
Well, in all fairness, Chicago is only a sanctuary city, not a TAX sanctuary.
This article doesn't mention the huge drain to the budget from this past year's migrant crisis, which was the reason for the failed attempt to raise the property tax rate.
I mostly skipped reading the story, but what's up with the headline being very careful to a avoid using the mayor's name?
BRANDON
Well, the little guys obviously aren't paying off the government...