Trump Has No Discernible Interest in Fiscal Responsibility
The president-elect’s record and campaign positions belie Elon Musk’s talk of spending cuts.

Elon Musk, President-elect Donald Trump's bounciest adviser, thinks he can identify "at least" $2 trillion in federal budget cuts. Although critics derided the billionaire entrepreneur's suggestion as improbably ambitious, that assessment hinges on political assumptions rather than a clear-eyed understanding of what could be accomplished if Trump were serious about restoring fiscal discipline.
Unfortunately, there is little reason to think he is. Trump's record during his first term and his positions during his 2024 campaign suggest he will continue the federal government's longstanding pattern of unrestrained borrowing even as the imbalance between revenue and spending becomes increasingly dire.
Cutting $2 trillion from the federal budget, which totaled $6.8 trillion in fiscal year 2024, would return us to the level of spending recorded just five years ago, which gives you a sense of how quickly things have gone from bad to worse. The Congressional Budget Office (CBO) projects that the annual deficit, currently $1.6 trillion (5.6 percent of GDP), will reach $2.6 trillion (6.1 percent of GDP) by 2034.
Those deficits add up. The total federal debt held by the public is more than $28 trillion, which is about the size of the U.S. economy. By 2034, the CBO projects, that number will reach 116 percent of GDP, "the highest level ever recorded."
More debt means more interest, which currently accounts for 13 percent of the federal budget and 3.1 percent of GDP. By 2034, the CBO estimates, those numbers will rise to 16 percent and 3.9 percent, respectively.
During his 2016 campaign, Trump risibly claimed he would eliminate the national debt within eight years. But even before federal spending spiked in response to the COVID-19 pandemic, his own budget estimated that the number would instead rise from $14.7 trillion in 2017 to $22.8 trillion in 2025.
By the end of Trump's term, the Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget calculated, he had signed legislation and issued executive orders that, on balance, added $8.4 trillion to the national debt (including interest) over 10 years. As of last June, the corresponding figure for President Joe Biden was $4.3 trillion.
During his 2024 run, Trump expressed approximately zero concern about any of this. To the contrary, the Republican platform in effect promised more borrowing to finance "large tax cuts," an expanded military budget, and "the largest deportation operation in American history."
The platform also promised that Trump would "fight for and protect Social Security and Medicare with no cuts, including no changes to the retirement age." Given the looming financial crises in those entitlement programs, which will include mandatory, across-the-board cuts to Social Security benefits in a decade, that commitment is utterly reckless.
Adding together all of Trump's promises, the Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget estimated that his fiscal plans would add about $7.8 trillion to the national debt over 10 years. The corresponding estimate for Vice President Kamala Harris was about $4 trillion.
Even if we ignore Trump's off-the-cuff talk about eliminating taxes on tips, overtime pay, and retirement benefits, he has promised to oppose reductions in military spending, Social Security, and Medicare. Together with interest payments, those three programs account for three-fifths of federal spending.
Given Trump's priorities, it is hard to see how he can possibly deliver anything like the spending reductions that Musk imagines even with the cooperation of a Republican-controlled Congress. Tackling "fraud, waste, and abuse," while worthwhile, would not come close to achieving that goal.
There is no shortage of feasible plans for preventing the bankruptcy of old-age programs, reining in the national debt, reducing the burden of interest payments, and ameliorating the economic costs that fiscal incontinence will impose on our children and grandchildren. But all of them require hard choices, compromises, and reckoning with the consequences of short-sighted policies that prioritize immediate political rewards over long-term prosperity.
The longer we wait, the harder those choices will be. We cannot afford another four years of kicking the can down the road.
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Don't Reason writers have access to the internet?
He just established the Department of Government Efficiency to gut government spending and reduce the size and scope of the bureaucracy.
We will see what they can do, but talk about printing a GIGANTIC lie as your headline.
The whole point of this well-documented (well-supported) article is that Trump is lying whenever He CLAIMS to give a shit about balancing the budget! Is shit a lie to point out the lies of a liar?
Remember, sullum is a scumbag
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(Who, miracles never cease! Dickland here edited its shit and used "is" instead of "us"! Dickland us getting smarter!)
And a fag
Sullum has no discernible interest in being objective about Trump, or even telling the truth
Another handy foil for idiotic Reason headlines:
[insert Reasonista here] claims to be a libertarian. [his/her] record says otherwise.
Even in his first term his first few EOs was a 10% cut to each department and a reduction in regulations. Then he cut taxes.
They must not have the internet.
Boehm had it 2 years ago when he discovered 70% of spending growth prior to covid was entitlements and interest on the debt.
But it was Trumps fault for following thr constitution and living with appropriation Congress passed. Why Hitler chose not to be authoritarian on budgets is confusing.
Technically, this increases size of government until such time as it starts actually cutting.
I don't think Sullum is even aware that Congress appropriates money, and has made it a crime for Presidents not to spend it.
He certainly doesn't recall that Trump proposed a budget with some spending cuts back in 2017, and Congress responded by instead enacting spending increases in those same areas, with bipartisan veto-proof majorities.
So, he's basically complaining either that Trump doesn't propose to violate the law, or that he didn't continue spending political capital on something he'd had proven to him Congress would never give him.
Well, I'd actually like to see Trump challenge the constitutionality of the law against impounding funds...
https://rollcall.com/2023/06/20/trump-says-hell-restore-presidential-impoundment-authority/
By department you mean a group of tech bros with no ability to cut spending or comprehension of what to takes to reduce regulation much less increase government efficiency?
Twitter seems to still be working, with a lot less staff.
Musk cut spending at Twitter.
Billionaires know nothing about handling money.
Ass long ass TEAM R special interests get theirs in the short run, Trump and Team R only PRETEND to give a shit about ANY of this!
Spermy Daniels doesn't care, either; She's getting hers ass well!
Hey Team R! Did you notice the imbalance here noted in this article?
"By the end of Trump's term, the Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget calculated, he had signed legislation and issued executive orders that, on balance, added $8.4 trillion to the national debt (including interest) over 10 years. As of last June, the corresponding figure for President Joe Biden was $4.3 trillion."
Trump was almost TWICE the spendthrift that Biden was!
Haha, good timing to seethe rage Sullum, you hack.
So did Sullum write ONE SINGLE DAMNED THING that Brainiac R Mac can disprove?
Sullum is shitsy.
R Mac is icky-poooo... And PROUD of shit!
Jacob Sqrlsy is a seething editor at Reason.
Jacob can see a thing or two or twenty-seventy-thousand about Dear Leader, which bodes very ill for the future, unless His (Dear Leader’s) flunkies have the BALLS to tell Dear Emperor that He has no clothes! Jacob can see shit, butt Chumpy-Chump can’t. That’s why Jacob is an editor at Reason, butt Chumpy-Chump isn’t. (To be seething ’cause one can see-a-thing is GOOD! Else, soon, for LACK of seething see-a-thing, our children will be teething on rat-bones, or worse.)
Unread
Too stupid and-or too lazy to read... And PROUD of shit!
You have nothing of value to offer.
Your Supreme Arrogance is of value to smart and benevolent people, since You Pervfectly demonstrate to us, TWAT SNOT to act like!
He is the heckler’s pedo.
Credibility down the drain, both the CRFB and Sullum.
Does anyone actually think Harris was going to add half as much as Trump? What with reparations, forgivable loans to black pot entrepreneurs, house down payments, and all those continued student loan giveaways?
I suppose with all the Harris inflation from energy bills and price controls, the inflation-adjusted value might be less. If that's the calculus, it's pretty shoddy.
In all fairness, I agree with your comments about a (now-hypothetical) Harris Administration.
If you wanted to be fair to Sullum, you would point out that Sullum is sullumny addressing the evidence from the historical, hysterical PAST (ass prologue to a very real approaching future), ass opposed to speculating about a (now-hypothetical) Harris Administration.
I, too, am VERY angry, actually-factually-literally, because he criticized Trump, while never even bothering to write ONE single word about a hypothetical Stalin Administration!!! This PROVES that Sullum is a MARXIST!!!
They are throwing two entirely non-sequential figures together.
i.e. BS LIES propaganda.
The very link....
President Trump approved $2.2 trillion of debt in his first two years
President Biden approved $4.9 trillion in his first two years
And the biased BS continues with.
Tax Cuts & Jobs Act +$1.9 trillion
ACA Tax Delays & Repeals +$539 billion
Literally pretending that CUTTING spending is equal to Ten-Year added DEBT.
CRFB includes tax reductions as spending. They said Trump would extend the tax cuts, kamala wouldn't. Therefore she spends less.
Then on the other side they said Kamala increased taxes would have zero effect on the economy and bring in tax revenue, so would reduce the deficit. They didn't include most of her spending statements either, but did for Trump.
Well that's one of the differences between Democrats and Republicans. Democrats believe that everything you have is theirs and that they can tell you how much you can keep, while Republicans just tell you how much they need.
They must have calculated that the Harris tax hikes would actually increase tax revenue, instead of tanking the economy.
@JacobSullum....Sigh, you're at the anger stage. Take your time, it is a lot to absorb. By all means, continue to put out articles like this; what bad timing. Pres Elect Trump announced DOGE, to be headed by Elon and Vivek. I think we will eventually see some 'right sizing' of government. 🙂
The ‘Right Sizing’ of Government Almighty will be to make it BIGGER with MUCH larger armies of border control agents, rounders-uppers and deporters of millions of used-to-be-productive workers, and tariff-tax-collecting goons. Shit is called ‘Right Sizing’ because the RIGHT side has demanded a scapegoat, and the un-Muricans are it! Us good! Them bad! Spend twatever shit takes to SUPPOSEDLY reward the good and punish the bad, never mind what history tells us about such efforts!
What do you think the purpose of the 'Fed' (Union of States) is?
Free ponies?
Surely it couldn't be about National Defense of Foreign Invasions.. /s
Until Elon resigns again from a Trump post, like he did when Trump pulled out of the Paris Climate Accords.
Just saying he isn't some magic bullet.
Pres Elect Trump announced DOGE, to be headed by Elon and Vivek.
Trump said the new department ..."provide advice and guidance from outside of government," signaling the Musk and Ramaswamy roles would be informal, without requiring Senate approval.
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-says-elon-musk-vivek-ramaswamy-will-lead-department-government-efficiency-2024-11-13/
While I can appreciate avoiding another "committee to study the formation of a committee" type government program, it sounds like it will be toothless.
Trump has the teeth. They’ll report directly to him. My guess is Elon will focus on where to cut and Viveke will focus on justifying the cuts legally.
Cutting $2 trillion from the federal budget, which totaled $6.8 trillion in fiscal year 2024, would return us to the level of spending recorded just five years ago
Trump plans to return the out of control Biden-Harris budget to Trump spending levels.
Hey Team Chumpy Chump! Did you notice the imbalance here noted in this article? Trump back to the dump, where He belongs! See below quote! You've got your shit exactly reversed, Perversed One! Reverse your verse, liar!
“By the end of Trump’s term, the Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget calculated, he had signed legislation and issued executive orders that, on balance, added $8.4 trillion to the national debt (including interest) over 10 years. As of last June, the corresponding figure for President Joe Biden was $4.3 trillion.”
Trump was almost TWICE the spendthrift that Biden was!
"Trump was almost TWICE the spendthrift that Biden was!"
PURE BS and LIES.
You're not fooling anyone.
The institution where Sqrlsy resides may need to adjust his medication post Trump victory. Long TDS coupled with schizophrenia looks to be a real bitch for the rodent.
Sure… All of those who disagree with MEEEE are… Mentally ILL!!! YES, this! Good authoritarians KNOW this already!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_abuse_of_psychiatry_in_the_Soviet_Union
All of the GOOD totalitarians KNOW that those who oppose totalitarianism are mentally ill, for sure!!!
It's easy to identify $2T that needs to be cut. The problem is that there aren't enough in Congress who will stand up for cuts and more than a majority will not make any compromise that doesn't spend much more.
Maybe instead of hyperventilating about Trump trying to do good Sullum should instead focus on calling out the Dems and RINOs who kill the effort. I suppose he can't do that because then he'd have to acknowledge that it is only Republicans who are even making an effort despite the party stabbing them in the back.
And almost instantly balance the budget, if Congress actually go along with it.
Doesn’t Sullum live in Israel? Why is he so preoccupied with US politics?
Clink his name-link at the beginning of the article. It concludes with "He lives in Dallas with his wife and three daughters."
Doesn't Carlos Incontinence live on Uranus? Why does he even care about the NON-smelly, far-less-shitty planets like Earth?
So 2 years and $5T or more in additional debt from now we get a 900-page report that will be dead on arrival? Hard to think this is anything but theater, meant to delay any hard spending decisions. And perversely, this could actually prevent Congress from acting in the meantime so as to not preempt the Musk report.
He is already bringing back his schedule F classification day one to make it easier to fire federal employees dumdum. The order Biden undid.
DOGE gone it, I bet he will.
Just like his first term, he'll end with massive deficits and a hugely increased baseline budget, and Democrats will get all the blame.
Another prediction certain to be totally accurate, just like all the others!
Sloshtradamus is prescient.
You're planning on hyping up another authoritarian covid like virus where you'll push every DNC talking point and cower at the behest of your betters in government?
Does Faucci plan on releasing another pandemic virus he and his friends cooked up in China?
You forgot to add the likelihood of a recession. Trump plans as outlined will very likely juice the economy, add inflation, and that will likely end in recession. He had a recession 4 years ago and I think it likely again.
Leftard Self-Projection endlessly.....
Because that's what leftards do.
Not projection history. Last three Republican administrations ended with recessions.
Nothing but MORE self-projection.
[D]'s are always carrying a trifecta during Recessions and Depression and now Biden-inflation.
He had a recession 4 years ago
The whole fucking planet had a recession 4 years ago, you disingenuous prick.
That tends to happen when governments around the world slit their economies throats.
Every time “emergency spending” has been passed and made the baseline, Democrats have controlled the House. You know, the people responsible for the budget. Uniparty Republicans like John McCain and John Cornyn help ensure it passes the Senate, usually veto proofed.
They deserve the fucking blame.
Jacob, so clueless. Kamala blows throught 1 BILLION DOLLARS ( check it out) and Trump is irresponsible. ALL or nothing, huh, Jacob
So silly
"Trump Has No Discernible Interest in Fiscal Responsibility"
Proving for once and all that he actually IS a politician.
“that Musk imagines…” Christian National Socialism is Armageddon against invisible Evil. In Germany and in Sinfest comix that meant Jyooz. In Texas it means trannies in girl’s bathrooms at the library, hippies and mexicanos shooting pot, and Sharknado Cassandras flinging ordure at the Mona Lisa and gluing themselves to walls. God’s naziism has nothing to do with economy in government or doing away with asset-forfeiture looting. Expect Trumpanzistas to wreck stuff like the communists, just howling different war shrieks.
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I have pointed out you don't need Elon Musk to find ways to cut government spending. A couple of young accountants with a few years of experience could do the work. Musk does bring some gravitas to the task, but as noted that alone might not help. I would suggest that Musk not be overly ambitious. Find cuts that can be done and go with these cuts. It is more important for him to show that it is possible to make cuts and less to solve the whole problem at once.
Your average person could comb through any given section of the budget and find stuff to cut.
I agree with you about taking smaller chunks to show it is possible.
"President Trump approved $5.9 trillion of net spending increases including interest ($2.8 trillion non-COVID) and $2.5 trillion of net tax cuts ($2.0 trillion non-COVID)."
Tax cuts are not spending and dont add to the debt.
"Debt held by the public rose by $7.2 trillion during President Trump’s term including $5.9 trillion in the first three years and five months. Debt held by the public has grown by $6.0 trillion during President Biden’s term so far. "
Out of date info. As of today public debt has risen from 21.3t to 28.6t, 7.3 trillion, under Biden. So its pretty much a wash. However the main drivers of debt are social programs, which Biden locked into mandatory spending, so they will go up forever. Trumps signed spending was generally discretionary. Our entire debt is caused by programs dems put in decades ago and have kept adding to. And which neither the GOP nor Trump will do anything about.
Tax cuts are no spending when you have a surplus, they are spending when you are borrowing money for the cuts.
No, the spending is the spending. That doesn't have shit to do with the receipts.
“Letting” people keep more of the money THEY earned is not an expense.
Listen this is a philosophical discussion of terms. Those people keeping their money are getting services that are subsidized by adding to the national debt. You can say it is not spending I say it is.
That’s okay, you’re free to be wrong. 🙂
And you are wrong.
The people are not spending money they don't have.
The government is spending money it knows it doesn't have and knows it's not going to get.
The 'services' to which you refer mean paying unelected burreaucrats exhorbitant salaries so they can tell people what to do with their lives. Services that not even leftists actually want.
That is why you are wrong.
Everything is relative. Trump and the republicans are relatively more fiscally responsible than Harris or the democrats, but that does not mean that Trump and republicans are fiscally responsible. This only means that there is more of an appetite for cutting spending than the alternative.
It used to be that democrats wanted to cut military spending, but those days have passed and the democrat party has embraced their warmongering stance. At least Trump and his supporters are calling for some cuts, but we will see if the elected republicans will support or stymie any efforts towards fiscal responsibility.
Once again, because people don't actually realize it--from September's Monthly Treasury Statement:
Table 4--Receipts
-Federal Hospital Insurance Trust Fund: $386.8 billion
Table 5--Outlays
-Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services: $2.147 trillion
Delta: $1.76 trillion
FY24 Deficit: $1.83 trillion
Pretty much all of our national debt is due to government grants for Medicaid spending. Realistically, Medicaid isn't going anywhere, so how does this get addressed? Go after medical monopolies and introduce price competition, and incentivize massive discounts for cash over third party insurance payments, including Medicaid. Get rid of EMTALA to mitigate the mooching off of the emergency room.
Once these are in place, then we can start having a discussion about how much Medicaid really needs to be giving out, since you're working to actually try and mitigate the problem.
The regime cuck Sullum has no discernible interest in objectivity or fact as it pertains to Donald Trump.
Cry harder, Sullum. Jesus Haploid Christ.
-jcr
The headline is true enough. Trump set the 4-year national debt record, which Biden may or not break by January. But we all know that Harris would have been much worse.
If Trump can extend the tax cuts and slow the growth rate of spending, and if Elon can hack a few hundred billion of government waste from the budget, things will be a lot better than they might have been.
Attributing the deficit of 2020 to Trumpian malfeasance is like crediting the tax and crypto spike of the last week to Joe Biden's amazing governance.
The latter is, of course, how it will appear in every statistic generated for the rest of time.
and yet Musk is there too - get a clue Jacob!
Things that a libertarian website shouldn't need to be reminded of:
1. Tax cuts are good. Complaining that they might "increase the deficit" doesn't make them bad; only not as good as they could be.
2. Reducing spending is reducing spending, even if it's still "higher than it was X years ago", and it's way better than sticking with the party of infinite increases.
3. Reducing post-inflation spending to the same nominal amount as pre-inflation spending is a real cut.
4. Growth in entitlement spending that is beyond the legislative power of the spending-cutters-of-the-moment is not magically the fault of the spending-cutters-of-the-moment because it "happened on their watch". It takes a lot of legislative power to undo what Democrats have entrenched.
"Trump Has No Discernible Interest in Fiscal Responsibility."
Oh, yeah.
The democrats have a much better record at fiscal responsibility...and if you believe that one, I'll tell you another.
If you look at the data Democrats do. Best levels of deficient cutting is a Democrat President with Republicans in control of one chamber of Congress. Look at the historical data.
...and who wrote that data, some liberal bureaucrat in DC who will write anything to keep his federal government job?
If you look at the data Democrats do. Best levels of deficient cutting is a Democrat President forced to implement the prior Republican president's economic policies because Republicans are in control of one chamber of Congress so Democrats can't change them . Look at the historical data.
FTFY
It floors me you can play so blatantly ignorant about Obama's [D]-trifecta and Biden's [D]-trifecta literally TRIPPLING (!! 3-TIMES !!) the deficit right out of the gate EVERY-TIME from the previous [R]-trifecta.
That ignorance is only topped by your partisan ignorance that every "plan" bankrupting the USA is literally a Democrats party plan. You're literally the definition of self-projection.
OMG! Guys, I made a horrible mistake. ORANGEMAN BAD!
I didn't know! I didn't know before the election! ITS NOT MY FAULT!
WHY DIDN'T SOMOENE TELL ME!