NYPD Opened Fire on a Fare Jumper, Shooting 2 Bystanders and a Cop
Gotham’s police department has a long history of shooting bystanders in "self defense."

The New York Police Department (NYPD) has a history of protecting bystanders by shooting them. This March, when Brooklyn man Nathan Scott tried to shoot a mugger who had his wallet, the NYPD killed Scott and wounded an auto mechanic across the street. In 2013, after a man in a road rage incident made finger guns and reached for his pocket, the NYPD tased the man and shot two women nearby. In 2012, after a disgruntled ex-employee murdered his coworker outside the Empire State Building, the NYPD shot the murderer along with nine bystanders.
This weekend featured yet another "police-involved shooting" against the public—except this time, the alleged threat didn't have a gun, and the confrontation was started entirely by police action. After chef Derrell Mickles allegedly snuck into a subway station without paying his fare on Sunday, the NYPD tried to arrest him. They claim that Mickles muttered "I'm going to kill you if you don't stop following me" and drew a knife. (Mickles' mother says the knife was from his job.)
After failing to subdue Mickles with a taser, the officers shot him, two bystanders, and one of their own in the crowded station. Police hit one of the bystanders, a 49-year-old man, in the head; he was in critical condition. So is Mickles, whose family only found out about the incident when a reporter from The Gothamist showed up at their house.
"Make no mistake, the events that occurred on the Sutter Avenue station platform are the results of an armed perpetrator who was confronted by our officers doing the job we asked them to do," Interim Police Commissioner Tom Donlan said at a Sunday press conference. But some of the bystanders in the line of fire disagree. One video shared by independent local journalist Talia Jane shows a bystander shouting "They're shooting recklessly! He shot his own fucking partner!"
Mickles was within seven feet of the officers when they shot him, the NYPD says. Police are traditionally taught the "21-foot rule," which says that a suspect holding a knife within 21 feet is close enough to pose an immediate threat. But the 21-foot rule is not a license to start shooting anyone within that distance; Lt. Dennis Tueller, the Salt Lake City police officer whose 1983 research led to the rule, also recommended making a "tactical withdrawal" or trying to "avoid the confrontation altogether."
And a $2.90 subway fare seems like an awfully small thing to endanger the public over. Earlier this year, the NYPD and the Metropolitan Transportation Authority (MTA) announced a crackdown on turnstile jumpers called "Operation Fare Play." In addition to costing around 4 percent of the MTA budget every year, MTA head Janno Lieber said, theft of services "creates a sense of disorder in a public space."
Of course, so does shooting up a crowded subway platform.
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They'll try to charge Mickles with homicide if any of the other shooting victims die.
"NYPD Opened Fire on a Fare Jumper, Shooting 2 Bystanders and a Cop."
Good shootin,' Tex.
If people insist on being bystanders at places like New York or MAGA rallies, it's kinda like they're begging to be shot. New York voters elect looters and approve bonds to fund thugs, ALL of whom are required by their party platforms to initiate deadly force to rob and jail inoffensive individuals. You may not get what you wish for, but some crowds certainly deserve to get what they VOTE for.
New York City is one of the safest large cities in the US. Third lowest homicide rate last year and down 11% this year.
Yeah, I'm sure the homicide rate is now in triple digits.
Progress at its apex.
GFY
And a $2.90 subway fare seems like an awfully small thing to endanger the public over.
The crime wasn't the fare, the crime was 'disrespecting law enforcement' and this guy got exactly what you'd expect from the NYPD for that offense.
Also, in at least some defense of the NYPD, the trigger pull on their issued sidearms was 12 pounds until 2021 when they started issuing at least some sidearms with 5 pound pulls. Also it's New York, so 'bystander' is kind of misleading when people are jammed into everywhere like sardines in a can. If anything, it's amazing the NYPD doesn't blow away a lot more bystanders than they do with those conditions.
Of course, pulling out your service weapon and firing under those conditions is almost beyond parody but they still somehow manage to parody themselves. Thank goodness they allocated their limited force to shoot people that failed to pay their subway fare. That means all the serious crime in New York is non-existent to go along with the narrative that crime is down nationwide, right?
Isn’t the whole point of why cops should have guns and you, the public pleb shouldn’t , is that cops are “trained when to shoot and when not to” ? Shooting wild west style in a subway to stop a “$2.90 felony in progress” seems a bit much.
So having a dozen bystanders also opening fire would have made things better?
A dozen CCW bystanders wouldn't have shot at a fare jumper. That only happens in Democrat fever dreams.
The cops probably opened fire because they were too fat to chase him.
“Make no mistake, the events that occurred on the Sutter Avenue station platform are the results of an armed perpetrator who was confronted by our officers doing the job we asked them to do,”
The guy had a knife from his job, his offense was fare-beating and the police make it sound like they were dealing with a murderer. I want to see the body-cam footage.
Having a knife “from your job” = having a knife.
A chefs knife = a deadly weapon
No way to know he had a knife unless he brandished it
- He did apparently / allegedly brandish the knife. At least, according to the story about his mom finding out from a reporter.
- It was a folding pocket knife like the one I take camping, a Gerber Paraframe or similar.
- The police also apparently failed to secure it as evidence, and are now looking for someone who picked up the knife and left with it, from the middle of an active crime scene.
https://x.com/NYPDnews/status/1835461139397828691
No way! That is just...
Really?
Barney Fife would be embarrassed.
Also, that blows the chef knife story out of the water.
That there is a stabby knife, not a veggies knife.
It could be a box-openy knife.
Yeah, I'd like to see bodycam as well. If he did pull a knife and make threats, then it's not just an overreaction to a fare jumper anymore. Still you should be really damn sure it's necessary before you start shooting in a crowded subway station.
It was apparently inside the car itself.
Why is a chef carrying around his chef's knife instead of keeping it at his work station?
In any event "shot a fare jumper" is a complete distraction and likely a lie. But what should be focused on is how recklessly and idiotically they shot up a subway to the extent all sorts of other people got shot.
I never understood why people lie when the truth is more than sufficient to support their point.
According to Sullum, this does not happpen.
In DC cops ignore gate jumpers. Bystanders don’t realize how lucky they are.
Heheheh... good one
It's only public transport riders (i.e. unimportant little people) that got shot, so no big.
/s
Sounds to me like an argument against public transportation.
I'm... actually on board with that.
Who will protect us from our protectors?
Why can't we arm LE with the very best tranquilizing/paralyzing weapons carrying loads of curare, succinylcholine, or something even better capable of stopping an average human from moving more than a few yards? Within 3-5 seconds? Or even drop that human where he/she stands? There's a test for that: you shoot a monkey, and if the monkey falls before jumping you have 0-tree toxin; falls after jumping to one tree but not a second you have 1-tree toxin; falls after jumping to two tree but not a third you have 2-tree toxin. Native Amazonian hunters have been producing arrow poisons and testing them for potency for a thousand years or more. Surely, our bow hunters and game managers could come up with something newer and better. Perhaps not. We're only 250 years into our first millennium.
The problem is human "risk tolerance." Give a cop a less lethal option for use of force, most likely the cop will use that force far more often than more lethal methods. We've seen that with tasers: when they first got them, the cops went crazy tasing people.
Hey, editors!
Assign someone with more knowledge and experience to stories like this or exercise more oversight.
This is riddled with terrible analysis.
There is plenty of room to criticize the panic fire that hit everyone except the intended target.
But insisting that they should strategically retreat when a guy with a knife is lunging at them from 7 feet away???
Just ... damn.
Of all the things to criticize. I mean... really?
I'm reminded of one of Robert Sheckley's science fiction stories, set in a terribly overcrowded world where the police were required to fire wildly at bystanders whenever chasing a suspect. (He took a wrong turn while walking and jumped over a traffic control rope in an attempt to get back to the correct lane.) Perhaps Sheckley was a better prophet than I thought.
Before you issue a gun to an employee, you damn well should ensure that he can shoot straight, considers what is behind his target before firing, and will never panic-fire or empty a magazine unnecessarily. If someone dies, the NYPD supervisors should be charged with manslaughter - they not only failed to train their officers, but they ignored many previous incidents showing that the typical NY cop is not qualified to use a gun safely.