Afraid of Rising Global Temperatures? Ditch Your Air Conditioner, Suggests New York Times Essay.
Depriving yourself of a modern luxury like air conditioning makes even less sense than banning plastic straws.

In a guest essay in The New York Times, Stan Cox of The Land Institute made the case for swearing off air conditioning to lessen the severity of climate change. It sounds like a miserable way to live—and thankfully, there are better ways to accomplish the same goal.
"The greenhouse gases created by the roughly 90 percent of American households that own A.C. units mean that running them even in balmy temperatures is making the climate crisis worse," Cox writes. Further, "air-conditioning has altered the way most Americans experience heat. Our bodies have grown so accustomed to climate-controlled indoor spaces, set at a chilly 69 degrees, that anything else can feel unbearable."
Despite living in Kansas, Cox says he has lived most of his life without air conditioning, making only a handful of exceptions each year during heat waves or when having guests over.
"We rely on electric fans, which consume only about 2 percent of the energy needed to air-condition one room," he writes. "We also kept other appliances and devices turned off as much as possible because they, too, generate heat." He and his wife don't have a dishwasher, they dry their laundry on a clothesline, and they keep the refrigerator "set for just under 40 degrees, the highest safe temperature, according to the Food and Drug Administration."
From there, his methods veer into the absurd: "When it gets too hot, we lightly spray water on our arms, legs and faces; the water helps dissipate a lot of heat. A quick, cold shower or a little time spent with that all-American favorite, the lawn sprinkler, also can bring relief."
In fairness, Cox admits that this is not an option for everyone, at all times. "If you live in Miami or Phoenix, you need air-conditioning to survive the summer," he says. "But if you live in the middle of the country, try leaving the air-conditioning off when it's hot but not too hot."
And his methods are paying off financially: "Our June electric bill informed us that we'd used 80 percent less electricity than other homes in our town with similar (in our case, modest) square footage."
If anybody values their pocketbook that much more than a bare minimum of livable comfort, then by all means, do as he suggests. But it would be foolish to recommend this as a feasible plan for the average person or to suggest that it is necessary to stave off climate change.
While 90 percent of American households have an air conditioner, the overwhelming majority of its direct greenhouse gas emissions come from transportation and electricity production. Air conditioning accounts for around 3 percent of global greenhouse gas emissions. Simply put, it matters much less how often and at what temperature we run the thermostat than how we create the vast majority of our electricity in the first place.
To that end, switching to nuclear energy would be a tremendous advantage. "Every year, nuclear-generated electricity saves our atmosphere from more than 440 million metric tons of carbon dioxide emissions that would otherwise come from fossil fuels," according to the Nuclear Energy Institute. "That's the same as taking nearly 100 million passenger vehicles off the road." The International Atomic Energy Agency claims that "the use of nuclear power has reduced carbon dioxide emissions by more than 60 gigatonnes over the past 50 years, which is almost two years' worth of global energy-related emissions."
In that sense, spraying yourself with water instead of running the air conditioner makes as much sense as banning plastic straws. Straw bans were once touted as a meaningful step toward eradicating plastic pollution, even getting companies like Starbucks to shift away from plastic straws.
But "despite the concerted efforts by corporations, the plastic straws ban has only made a minor difference in plastic waste production," wrote Owen Mulhern at Earth.org. "National Geographic reveals that where 8 million tonnes of plastics flow into the ocean every year, plastic straws merely comprise 0.025% of the total. The finding indicates that banning plastic straws could not make a significant improvement to the environment."
Depriving oneself of a modern luxury like air conditioning actually makes even less sense than banning plastic straws, because as Cox notes, air conditioning can literally save lives.
This isn't to say that we shouldn't embrace alternatives when it makes sense: As someone who works in a poorly-insulated bonus room above a garage in the southern United States, I use an air-circulating fan to make the temperature more bearable. While not perfect, it's cheaper than redoing insulation or adding a second thermostat for a single room. But that's just one small change, made out of necessity, that has no effect whatsoever on global greenhouse gas emissions.
If people are sufficiently worried about climate change to deprive themselves of a modern luxury like air conditioning, then they're certainly free to do so. But we shouldn't expect it to make a difference, and we should be thankful that it's not our only option.
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If you are on the left or find yourself agreeing with them then do Gaia a favor and turn yourself to compost now to minimize your carbon footprint. Anything less and you're the one murdering Mother Earth.
It's true. If only they acknowledge how much CO2 they put out.
We are the carbon the environmental nut cases want to eliminate.
Democrats should kill themselves anyway. Especially the ones who post here.
Organic compost
You first, NYT, you first. Betcha offices have A/C on as much as possible. You first.
And stop with the fossil fuel powered printing presses.
They can still make the green, hand powered kind if you want them.
And for God's sake stop putting stuff on that energy sucking internet thing.
More important (and impactful): stop the fossil fuel-powered internet and millions of individual digital devices that more people use to read the Times.
Millions of people read the NYT? That's far more terrifying than climate change.
We should ALSO ignore that it is far more energy-intensive to WARM cold areas thanb to cool hot areas.
40 degrees cooler at worst v 50+ degrees warmer is a difference.
Nobody needs 23 degrees of cooler air.
(And I assume this is also a dig at the counter-revolutionary people migrating to southern states. I did not see any mention of energy use and Earth-rape related to winter heating.)
….and we should be thankful that it's not our only option..
So far.
He and his wife don't have a dishwasher, they dry their laundry on a clothesline, and they keep the refrigerator "set for just under 40 degrees, the highest safe temperature, according to the Food and Drug Administration."
How you tell me you have a TradWife without telling me you have a TradWife.
A quick, cold shower or a little time spent with that all-American favorite, the lawn sprinkler, also can bring relief."
How you tell me you have a patch of land unlike New Yorkers, without telling me you have a patch of land unlike New Yorkers.
Just have an entourage of slaves to shade you, fan you with palm fronds, and transport you around the delta on a palanquin like in the good old days before man really started despoiling the planet.
This'd make a great comedy skit. A guy in that scene making a PSA *checks Reason style guide* hectoring us about our lifestyle choices.
100% that wife's goals
Wait, so this Kulak is telling the nouveau climate urbanist planners that he lives in a
TRIGGER WARNING
Single Family Home with a lawn
Social Climate credit score down to zero, off to room 101
Wonder if the asshole knows he likely uses more water not using the dishwasher.
Almost certainly. Modern dishwashers are very efficient.
"We rely on electric fans"
You BASTARD!!
Electricity is ummm, problematic
69 degrees?
WTF
As someone who lives in a 100 year old home with no air conditioning, I was all "WTF" as well.
I keep my AC at 66 during the summer and the heat also at 66 during the winter.
Cox almost seems like a sort of CIA deprogrammer. What he’s saying and the way he’s saying it sounds weird to you or I, but he’s not talking to you or I.
I don’t know anyone outside of a laboratory setting that has ever taken the temperature of their fridge beyond "above ‘beverages are solid’ and below ‘not cold’". Fans circulating air, indoors or out, was better than sliced bread or cooking outside growing up. You didn’t leave the lights on but you absolutely left the fan on. Now, people feel ‘buffeted’ by strong breezes indoors.
then they’re certainly free to do so. But we shouldn’t expect it to make a difference, and we should be thankful that it’s not our only option.
Now go to sleep for the next five years, convincing yourself it’s just about pronouns, college kids and well-meaning but misguided liberals, and then see what the world looks like when you next open your eyes.
New York State building next year will put in place building code requirements that will effectively mandate the use of heat pumps for heating and cooling without supplemental backup heating sources like gas or direct electric. As thst is the only technology that meets the energy efficiency requirements. The problem.being that heat pumps do not work efficiently at low outdoor air temperatures, especially design conditions in NYS North Country region. So the only systems that meet code are likely to be unable to provide adequate heating capacity in winter.
"BWAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!"
Micky, those wacky Scandinavians have actually taken Heat Pumps a long way in the last 20 years or so. I used to do repairs on Heat Pumps and had generally taken for granted that they were unsuitable for much of the country. But in fact, there is still a lot of heat in even below-freezing air, and newer heat pumps can efficiently extract it and ship it inside.
That said, there is still the fact that this is expensive and there are many, many alternatives out there that may make more sense for people. But the war on Natural Gas must take no prisoners, so we are getting heat pumps whether we like it or not.
Extract it? Yes. Efficiently? No. Efficiency of a heat pump is geometrically proportional to the temperature differential. At the extremes (cooling on a really hot day or heating on a really cold day, the efficiency suffers greatly.
It's also worth noting that the heat pumps in Scandanavia universally have a backup heat function - that is, an electric heater that kicks in when temperatures drop too low for the heat pump to work. If there are any exceptions to that rule, I have been unable to find them. Yet according to Mickey, NY is denying that reality. (Though in fairness, I was unable to find a citation clearly confirming that claim.)
If there are any exceptions to that rule, I have been unable to find them.
It's not a rule, it's a law and the issue is confusion of the distinction (or the exploitation of the confusion) between efficacy and efficiency and generation and distribution. At sub-freezing temperatures, no amount of heat pumping is going to melt a block of ice. You *have* to generate heat. The efficiency with which you (re)distribute it is important but it's nothing compared to the efficiency with which you generate heat.
It's the same as with electric cars. An ICE engine generates its own power using petroleum. An EV merely stores the energy generated elsewhere. If you've got the money and energy availability to drive yourself around the city in an EV, great. But for someone who intermittently has to turn on the generator to generate their own electricity the phenomenal efficiency if a heat pump is going to be a grotesque luxury compared to the relatively cheap ability to flip a switch and generate heat and/or electricity.
It’s not a rule, it’s a law and the issue is confusion of the distinction (or the exploitation of the confusion) between efficacy and efficiency.
Thank you.. The way the environmental movement uses the word "efficiency" is completely wrong and I've bitched (to deaf ears) about it for years.
Actually, a heat pump can melt ice in sub-freezing temperatures. I know because my own house uses a heat pump and stays quite comfortable (with lost of non-frozen water in the pipes) until the exterior temperatures get down to around 10 F. It can do so because the heat pump makes the exterior temperatures even lower in the immediate vicinity of the heat pump. It can do so because the heat-transfer medium is not water. (I believe it uses R-22 but I'm not sure.) But again, there is a limit on how low (or high) the system can get the transfer medium and thermodynamic efficiency is a function of the difference between that temperature and the surrounding environment. The cold-side limit on my system is about a 60F differential. (The environment here never gets hot enough to have found the high-side differential limit.)
You are correct that instead of using electricity to redistribute environmental heat, you could simply dump it through a resistor and generate heat directly. At the extremes, the resistor is much more efficient - but there is an optimal range where the heat-pump redistribution method can be more efficient. And many of us live in that optimal range for much (but not all) of the year.
410A currently, though that is phasing out to R32 and R454B. R22 was phased out a decade ago and has now been made illegal to import/manufacturer it in the states as of a few years ago.
Actually, a heat pump can melt ice in sub-freezing temperatures.
Thank you for demonstrating my point.
And many of us live in that optimal range for much (but not all) of the year.
And, once again, the issue isn't and never really was "survival within the optimal range" as much as it is lack of survival in a cold snap in TX.
"It’s not a rule, it’s a law"
So if we are talking about scientific laws, that isn't accurate.
THEORETICALLY until Absolute Zero, there is still energy in molecules that can transfer to a colder medium. At around -459F, you have a ways to go- and therefore a lot of harvestable energy- when sitting at even -30F. The fact that Ice crystalizes at 32F does not mean there is no more energy to be tapped in water, and of course heat pumps harvest energy from the air, not water.
PRACTICALLY, accessing energy down to Absolute Zero is not feasible at residential scale (I know, "no shit", right?). There are many technical hurdles that must be solved. Heat Pumps/Air Conditioners work by sucking heat out of the air during phase change of its transfer medium. Put a gas (like R22) under pressure and it liquifies, releasing a bunch of energy (heat). Now pump it around somewhere and release the pressure and as it phase changes to gas again, it sucks a bunch of energy from the air, causing it to cool down.
PV=nRT is fun and modern heat pumps have various ways to play with that function to accomplish heating at different ambient temperatures.
Theoretically we could have a heat pump system that goes to sub-arctic temperatures...it is all a question of technology.
Again, I don't think we should be mandating heat pumps- but it is remarkable how far they have come in the past several decades.
THEORETICALLY until Absolute Zero, there is still energy in molecules that can transfer to a colder medium.
JFC and *how* exactly do you move the molecules from one place to the other without putting any energy into the system yourself, hmm?
FFS, if I said my car gets 99% efficiency at 55 mph but 55 mph doesn’t get me from NYC to LA in 12 hours would you morons lecture me about how, technically, if I tweak the fuel ratios I could get to 99.9% efficiency?
I don’t eat bugs, I don’t sleep in pods, I own shit. That means I own pants and shirts of varying sleeve sizes and ceiling fans and that I could buy a hundred of each just for the capital costs of a heat pump and still have money left over for ice cream.
You want a heat pump, fine. Don’t try to tell me it can liquidate ice below freezing without consuming any energy. Even on accident it makes you look like something between a moron and a liar.
If I give precisely zero shits about the amount of CO2 natural gas emits, the gas is far more valuable generating heat once in -20 degree weather than it is as a transport medium for heat from other more efficient but less effective sources.
There seems to be some confusion. The "rule" I was talking about was nothing more than 'heat pumps sold in Scandinavia have backup heat sources' (something which, according to Mickey, is being outlawed in NY).
I installed a furnace and heat pump 2 years ago. Works down to 10 degrees f. Last two years, I only used gas for ~2 weeks. Electric/ gas bill dropped by $50 per month. At low temperatures there is a bit of odd cycling going on (defrosting with external electric heaters). Happy with purchase as I can afford to maintain nice temps and humidity in the house. There is value in protecting the inside of the house. 7 year payback as I did the install myself.
"At the extremes (cooling on a really hot day or heating on a really cold day, the efficiency suffers greatly."
There are a couple different things at play here. The first is the temperature bands in which your system works efficiently. This is all about how efficient your coils are at transferring heat to or from the air at given ambient temperatures. The technology here has gotten really good, and the optimal temperature bands are very wide (the Cold Climate standards start measuring heat pumps at 5F). They achieve this with optimal pressures, variable speed fans and larger coil sizes with unique geometry.
The second item of concern is the carrying capacity of your heat pump- how much energy can all that refrigerant carry. Your old school ACs only could "Pack in" about 20 degrees differential of heat. So if it was 100 degrees outside, you were only generally getting down to 80 or so. But new heat pumps have much, much more capacity.
"It’s also worth noting that the heat pumps in Scandanavia universally have a backup heat function – that is, an electric heater that kicks in when temperatures drop too low for the heat pump to work."
While it is true that cold weather heat pumps have strip heaters, they are no longer used for auxiliary heat (unless there is a mechanical failure on the heat pump). The main purpose of heat strips is to keep the house comfortable during defrost cycles. Essentially the Heat Pump runs in reverse periodically to clean ice off the outdoo coil....the downside is that the coil inside becomes cold during this time, so the strip heaters turn on to warm the air so that you aren't blowing it back into the house.
This is not necessary- you could have a few minutes of cold air blowing into the house (or there are zone systems that shut this air outside, or whatever)- but the key point is that the previous behavior of "If it gets below 32 degrees, heat strips turn on all the time" has changed.
My gas furnace backup was like $700. Heat pump and furnace blower are full variable speed.i bought a low efficiency furnace as I use it so little it is not an issue. High efficiency furnaces have maintenance issues.
I know, I am an HVAC engineer. The problem is, it gets much harder to extract hest once you get below freezing. Heat pumps usually have had backup heat sources to make up the capacity reduction at low temperature and the upcoming code seems to disallow backups.
This is actually a professional issue for me.
Do you have a link to that part of the code? I was unable to find it.
Had not looked at it, myself. My department head brought it up in a staff meeting recently.
I would highly recommend looking at the technology here, since it looks like your state is going to foist it on you.
As I note above, even at -30F there is a lot of energy that can be extracted from air. Absolute zero is -459F. We haven’t had to research these better mediums until recently, because Nat Gas has always been a perfectly suitable alternative to complex bi-directional AC systems (and still is, but I digress).
Newer heat pumps do not use heat strips as a “backup heater when it gets too cold”. The strips can come on during defrost cycles of the heat pump. Playing with pressure, you can get some refrigerations to a gas transition stage at -50C. That’s more than enough to handle all but the coldest weather.
Again- I AM NOT ARGUING THAT WE SHOULD MANDATE HEAT PUMPS. Just pointing out that the technology is pretty cool these days.
I am not saying current day heat pumps cannot do impressive things, but that the tech may not be mature enough to meet the code, especially at a reasonable cost.
Just a note: 5F (the testing baseline you mention above) is plant hardiness zone 7. Lots of us live north of that. Yes, a heat pump is theoretically possible to nearly absolute zero but that's an awfully long way from commercially practical.
You've said several times that "newer heat pumps do not use heat pumps as a backup". That is untrue in my personal experience. Granted, it's not a brand new heat pump, but it's not all that old either. "Emergency heat" is explicitly part of our thermostat controls and something we have to manually activate when the outside temperatures hit ... it was about 5 F with the old windows. With better insulation, we now don't seem to need it until about -10 F.
But yeah, the technology is both cool and improving. And ridiculous for a state (especially a northern state) to try to mandate.
Heat pumps are like any number of other tools. They’re a nice option, but the government should stay the fuck out of it.
Oh it gets better since the federal mandate ending R410A refrigerant is going into effect at the end of the year. Costs are going up and if you can either replace now or wait a few years for all kinks to get worked out of the designs if my experience with R22 phase out has any bearing.
Thanks, Trump (signed into law) and John Kennedy (chief sponsor)!
See: American Innovation and Manufacturing Act 2019-2020 (aka AIM Act), which was lumped into the Consolidatee Appropriations Act 2021.
Yeah, NY residents are gonna be hella cold all winter.
Could've voted for Zeldin and possibly avoided this, but nope, did not want that apparently.
Yeah, NY residents are gonna be hella cold all winter.
Or, like solar panel users in CA, they're going to pay more than 6X what everybody else pays to heat and cool their homes and set up a profit sharing pyramid whereby they sell energy back to "the grid" at "a profit" and convince everyone that, somehow, they've circumvented the laws of thermodynamics en masse and are simultaneously generating more power than they need *and* suffering rolling brown outs.
Is the Left accidentally embracing asceticism? Tiny homes, veganism, downsizing, anti-materialism, body mortification, asexuality, belief in karma, antipathy to wealth, etc. etc.
Gaia is suffering, so they must suffer.
It is really amazing how so many christian religious archetypes show up in environmentalism. Everything from eden-esque worship of the past, to self saccrifice, original sin, and deference to a priestly class who will tell us what "good" is.
It is really amazing how so many christian religious archetypes show up in environmentalism.
Been on this beat for a while now. If you're interested, I strongly advise you check out Mr. Tom Holland (not the actor).
Link desc: Interview with Tom Holland where he postulates we're going through a Christian Reformation-- without God. Short clip describing Christianity's success-- and therefore the reason it's held in suspicion, yet all the modern attitudes, including the suspicion of Christianity are functionally steeped in Christian attitudes.
Not accidental. Neo-feudalism will not create itself.
Self-flagellation. Or "Give me the lash!"
Accidentally? They've been like this since the late 60s. Rousseau's "noble savage" is their ideal utopian society.
On a related note, my relatives and I visited the Ohio (Columbus) zoo in recent months. Many displays had notes (some of them making sense) along these lines: "If you care about this species, do this and don't do that." Many of them explained why.
The polar bear exhibit said "eat organic food" w/o any explanation! (It might have been some other bear, I can't recall for sure.)
Organic food requires MORE land for agriculture = LESS room for wildlife, for the same amount of nutrients (people food) produced! Natural (wild) lands also generally tie up more carbon. So they are full of shit...
Yes, but it costs more so it must be good.
Plus it's "organic" so obviously doesn't use any of those icky man-made chemicals. Friggin' idjits.
https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/organic-chocolate-contaminated-with-toxic-metals-how-dangerous-is-it
Organic chocolate is contaminated with toxic metals: How dangerous is it?
(More so than NOT-organic chocolate!)
Organic tends to be good because over time it doesn't deplete the soil of as many nutrients. Vitamins/mineral content of various fruits/veggies has dropped by 20-40% since 1950.
That is the claim. That claim however (that organics deplete the soil any less than conventional techniques) is unsupported by the evidence to date (when normalized for output).
However, you are very, very right below when you highlight the dangers of monoculture.
So cite the evidence of the refuted claim.
YOU made the claim, asshole, YOU support it.
You really have no idea how this works, do you?
I’m not much into organic – but the costs of large scale unsustainable industrial/monoculture are periodically obvious. And now is one of them re eggs.
Just like a couple years ago, the cheapest industrial eggs are ramping up in price. It is entirely because avian flu is wiping out entire flocks of crowded layers. The more crowded and industrial – the worse the wipe out. The higher priced eggs (pasture raised) are not rising in price because avian flu doesn’t affect those flock conditions as much.
At some point, the same thing is going to happen with crops that get hit by a particular disease. Monoculture will prove to have the same flaws it did during the Irish potato blight. And climactic changes will make those more frequent because viruses/insects evolve fast and crops/humans don't.
JFucked:
WOLF! WOLF! WOLF!
FOAD, asshole.
Eat organic food for the polar bears - you'll taste better!
Cox says he has lived most of his life without air conditioning, making only a handful of exceptions each year during heat waves or when having guests over.
Oh yeah, I bet parties at the Cox's are a blast.
You can have my air conditioner when you pry it from my comfortably cool dead hands.
Did you say "New York Times" is bloody stupid?
I think that's what I heard.
I think the Washington Post still holds the record for peak stupid. In order to combat global sea level rise (estimated at about one foot in the next 100 years) caused by global warming and the melting of the Antarctic ice sheet, they proposed building a chain of nuclear power plants in Antarctica to pump the seawater back inland to refreeze.
Instead of, say, building the coast sea walls in threatened cities about a foot higher sometime in the next century.
Back in the 19th century engineers raised downtown Chicago like 6 feet. No way we could do that today. If it can't be accomplished on a Zoom call it's just impossible.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raising_of_Chicago
Do you have a link for that WaPo article? I’d like to see anything they write in favor of building nukes and not more “wind and solar!” I’d almost offer a reward to anyone who can find such an article in the WaPo or NYT.
Is it weird that he suggests people who live in cities are entitled to a/c, but people who live in rural areas should get by with something else?
Yes, elitists are weird. Also despicable.
It is really nice to see environmentalists say the quiet part out loud. These dour pessimists think we are the problem. Being human is the problem- wanting for comfort is our sin. They want many fewer humans, and they want those humans living in pastoral squalor.
You can read some great stuff from that guy on his Facebook Page:
https://www.facebook.com/stan.cox.104
I especially love the link to a site he works on at greensocialthought DOT org that tells us, "Both capitalism and electoral democracy impede effective climate action. But while we have to defend and transform democracy, there is no possibility that capitalism can be made compatible with either global climate mitigation or social and economic justice."
It is clear in his writing that his goals are not achievable unless people accept that they will have fewer human comforts and goods available to them. And this of course requires the utter destruction of Capitalism.
These people are crazy, and the NYT hosting this guy in its Opinion section is no worse (perhaps even worse) than that asshat Tucker Carlson hosted.
Any movement that complains about "capitalism" is just marxism. Doesn't matter the issue, the goal is the communist utopia.
They aren't different from any other major religious movement, despite being nominally dominated by atheists.
Did he say, “so[zi]al justice”.
I suppose it should be federal too? So [Na]tional So[zi]alist Justice?
I do believe Germany went through an episode of that kind of ?Justice?.
That is the BIG LIE. Gov-Gun dictation and ‘armed-theft’ isn’t Justice at all and far more people should recognize that than not.
Animals adapt to their environment. Humans change their environment to suit them. We don't evolve more heat tolerance, we air-condition our living spaces. It's humanity that the eco-nazis want to get rid of.
It's the same with that other favorite leftist issue: gun control, followed by knife control when, as in Formerly Great Britain, they've got all the gun control possible and yet the elites still fear being murdered. Next, they'll restrict screwdrivers and hammers. Humans are toolmakers and tool users. Guns and knives are tools. The leftists want to take the tools away and reduce the masses to subhuman.
The point isn't to take air conditioning away from everyone, just you. I can assure you that the coach house on the Obama estate will continue to have plenty of A/C.
Yes, but he will buy plenty of carbon offsets (aka spacious estates in Montana and Hawaii).
If global temperatures go up by 2 degrees, I'll just run my air conditioner a few more minutes per day. People have been moving to warmer climates since the invention of air conditioning, because they prefer warmer climates.
Then why do they need AC?
If there was a place that was 72 degrees every day of the year people would flock there. Failing that they prefer a hot, AC-mitigated summer to a cold, snowy winter.
So they dislike cold weather. That's not the same as liking warmer climates in general. And yes, I'm being needlessly pedantic.
People prefer warmer climates. That doesn't mean there are no tradeoffs. AC ameliorates some of those tradeoffs.
We are descended from jungle species, probably through a phase of living in more arid Western Africa. We, as a species, are reasonably well adapted to live in hot climates. Among other things, think sweat glands. Then take your dog out for a walk in the middle of a hot day. Thriving in a cold climate was harder. For one thing, we had to develop subcutaneous fat.
"Afraid of Rising Global Temperatures? Ditch Your Air Conditioner, Suggests New York Times Essay."
That's a laugh.
Since when do leftists practice what they preach?
How does my AC use compare to their average internet use?
there's a joke here about what exactly you use your AC in for in comparison, but I'll let it go.
Interesting question. Checking the labels on my own appliances for a proxy suggests:
- Average household or apartment AC ≈ 500 watts. But it mostly only runs in the daytime during summer and morning and evening during the winter (using variable thermostat settings that take into account when we are home)
- My laptop power supply draws 65 watts but the desktop upstairs draws 90 watts. There are three other laptops for other family members and they are also on pretty much constantly.
- The wireless router draws 25 watts and is never turned off
- The cable modem draws its own 24 watts (also constant)
- The backup power supply draws a variable amount
- The backup storage device connected to the router draws a meager 7 watts.
- The printer uses 450 watts when printing (almost never) but 5 even when in sleep mode.
- Each phone charger uses 5 or 10 watts (and I'm not even sure how many of them we have scattered around these days)
- And that's with no special podcasting equipment. Electric lights, microphones, specialized editing/mixing equipment will all add up.
The bottom line - While your AC unit may be the biggest single electricity user in your household, the cumulative total for all your tech is about on the same order of magnitude.
Bear in mind, however, that that's just the in-house component of your internet use. If you tried to allocate your share of the google/amazon/etc server farms of all the websites and online services you visit, ... Google alone used over 22 terawatt-hours in 2022. Even if you assumed that all 7 billion of us use their services equally, the server-side energy cost adds up.
Incidentally, a quick online search says that the average driver of an all-electric car uses 408 kw-hrs per month to recharge the vehicle. If applied evenly across the month, that works out to 567 watt-hours/hour, making it almost certainly the largest single electricity user in your household (if you have one).
567 watt-hours/hour
IOW watts. (sorry I can't help it today for some reason)
lol shallow and pedantic.
TBH, I'm liking the new, "shallow and pedantic" Zeb.
You say that like we haven't been getting a steady drum beat of "We're all in this together.", "A heat pump can melt ice in sub-freezing temperatures.", "Electronic vehicles are just really popular.", "Eat bugs, sleep in pods, own nothing, be happy. (No, no I mean that's how you'll live not how we'll force you to live.)", "Impossible Meat has the same marbling as real ground beef!", and "Once we develop cultured meat we'll use fewer resources that we can return to nature." for more than two decades now.
A lot of newer phone chargers draw 15-30 watts, but for shorter periods of time. Mine supports up to 25 watts.
>>Stan Cox of The Land Institute made the case for swearing off air conditioning to lessen the severity of climate change.
love this! all the crazies go first.
So for people who aren't into vidya gamez, but want some laughs, the big news coming out is that Sony is pulling "Concord" offline after just two weeks. This was a game that featured yet another gallery of fugly diverse characters (bonus: apparently the most popular character was the Chad-looking white dude, lol), was an Overwatch clone without any of the fun, and looks like something that was developed 8 years ago, when they actually started making this fucking thing.
Sony sunk $200 million into this turd with the intent of making it a major media IP like Dragon Age (another once-fun franchise that got increasingly trashy as it grew increasingly woke) or Borderlands, going as far as doing an animated episode that could have potentially become a series in its own right. And the whole thing was DOA upon release.
I'm really starting to think that this isn't Sony burning its own money, this was either funded by Blackrock DEI grants that won't actually hit Sony's bottom line or money-laundering of some kind. Either one of these certainly explains why Hollywood seems so intent on burning hundreds of millions on shows that alienate the core audience, in order to appeal to niche demographics that barely watch the content that's pandering to them. The fact Sony is pulling this is pretty convincing evidence that their own money was at stake going forward.
>>Dragon Age (another once-fun franchise that got increasingly trashy
Dragon's Lair otoh ...
I'm not sure the game is that bad, but it plays just like a clone of a dozen other games that are already popular - which all have a free entry point. They built something nobody wanted at a price infinitely higher then the competition. The studio that built it would have gone out of business and disappeared if Sony hadn't purchased it. I suspect they might try a relaunch at the free price point. They will still be leaning into a full market.
They also did all of the shit gamers are sick of. Like requiring a Sony account and login, even if purchased on steam. Helldivers 2, another Sony studio game, tried that and quickly pivoted when the refunds started rolling in.
Nah, she’s significantly losing white men in swing states. All this shit comes back up after the election.
In a guest essay in The New York Times, Stan Cox of The Land Institute made the case for swearing off air conditioning to lessen the severity of climate change.
Might as well have Leonardo di Caprio write an essay like that. The Land Institute does freaking phenomenal work re trying to convert agriculture from annual crops to perennial crops. That's going to have a much bigger effect on reducing the severity of climate change than any opinion this guy has about air conditioning.
Worse -I recognize that NYT and other media/poobahs don't give a shit about anything the Land Institute does but that doesn't mean any publicity is good publicity. Opportunity squandered.
Your first mistake – you believe in Climate Change (whatever that means this year).
Your information sources are going to get narrower and narrower over time. Fortunately - you're old and will die and become irrelevant no matter how much you believe in your stubborn stupidity.
That’s an intelligent response. (Not really - it’s called sarcasm). I would suggest just the opposite, that the volume of research debunking Climate Change is increasing, not decreasing.
Of course, you should first define what you mean by Climate Change? Are you talking about Catastrophic Anthropogenic Global Warming? Global Cooling? Or something else, tacitly admitting that the CAGW and CAGC theories have been effectively falsified? But, of course, without more, Climate Change cannot be a scientific theory, because it can’t be falsified. So - back to you, what do you believe is happening, and why?
But, of course, without more, Climate Change cannot be a scientific theory, because it can’t be falsified.
This is a very important point. No matter how the weather changes, "climate scientists" extrapolate it as catastrophic, and confirming the "theory." Warmer weather: climate change. Colder weather: climate change. Wetter weather in areas: climate change. Drier weather: climate change.
No matter what the observed weather is, it's evidence of climate change. And it's going to be such a catastrophe that we need to cripple our economy, live much worse lives, just to stave it off a little. It's more about enriching the political and financial elite, getting rid of whatever free-market capitalism we have left in this country and the West, and allowing our betters to decide everything for us.
And JFucked is just fine with that.
AGW is pure bullshit. People pushing it should be punished. Look at all the harm they’ve done.
My tole me for these people is exhausted. They need to be beaten down and made to suffer for what they’ve done. And I don’t give a fuck how unlibertarian that sounds. This is a war they’ve started. It’s time for us to finish it, and them.
what do you believe is happening, and why?
Anthropogenic climate change is occurring via the greenhouse effect and other atmospheric changes that occur as a result of the greenhouse effect. With no greenhouse effect, temperatures on Earth would be a bit below 0. With the current greenhouse effect, temperatures are where they are. With a runaway greenhouse effect, temperatures are more like Venus (450C). There is no controversy about that at all. But at core that is what your ilk denies. And denies that humans are responsible for any atmospheric changes at all.
There is controversy (or a basis for skepticism – and certainly improvement) about the details of how all that is going to be measured, quantified, and projected via both climate models and weather models. Personally I think those are not a basis for making decisions. Since there is no repeat experiment, the only option will be to revise all of those over time and gradually improve that. Your ilk doesn’t even accept that notion.
Ultimately – this may have been a useful and interesting discussion 20 years ago. Not anymore. Your ilk is stuck on stupid and I’m no longer interested in mud wrestling with pigs.
There are many elites who would gladly adopt the ascetic lifestyle as long as they still get to keep their $10k e-bikes and fly to yoga retreats in Kathmandu
Ironically; The 'Climate Emergency' gang need to take away your 'Climate Control'. Guess they were having a hard time selling their BS.
But most AC systems are powered with electricity, which is magically emissions free.
Once they take away your AC, you will definitely experience global warming.
You know what else the NYT promotes. Rewriting the constitution.
(Rogan video in link)..
https://dailycaller.com/2024/09/04/joe-rogan-bret-weinstein-unload-nyt-danger-constitution/
Cox writes. Further, "air-conditioning has altered the way most Americans experience heat. Our bodies have grown so accustomed to climate-controlled indoor spaces, set at a chilly 69 degrees, that anything else can feel unbearable."
The "bodies" he's likely talking about are the morbidly obese ones that never leave their barca loungers. 69 is a ridiculous AC setting, and no utility-bills conscious person EVER sets it that low.
I've lived in humid muggy swamps and dry arid deserts, and the lowest I think I've EVER set my AC was 73. And that was only because I had a morbidly obese guest who kept complaining. (Now, cars are different - cars go to 60, at least until that oven has cooled off.)
But this goofball is right in one regard, y'know - fans are a great supplement to AC. You can set your AC a little higher (as opposed to his lunatic notions of getting rid of it completely) and let the fans circulate the cool air. That's the way a normal person does things. But it has nothing to do with the Climate Whatever. It has to do with being budget-conscious about your utility bills.