Trump's Proposals Would Add $5.8 Trillion to the Deficit
Vice President Kamala Harris would add about $2 trillion to the deficit.

The major proposals pitched by the campaigns of Vice President Kamala Harris and former President Donald Trump would both expand the federal budget deficit—though Trump's plans would require significantly more borrowing over the next decade.
Trump's proposals would add an estimated $5.8 trillion to the deficit over the next decade, according to the Penn Wharton Budget Model, a fiscal policy think tank at the University of Pennsylvania (Trump's alma mater). Most of Trump's deficit-increasing policies result from proposed changes that would reduce Americans' tax burden. He's called for permanently extending the 2017 tax cuts, which would add an estimated $4 trillion to the deficit over the next decade (unless Trump comes up with offsetting spending cuts). His plan to eliminate taxes on Social Security benefits will add another $1.2 trillion.
Harris, meanwhile, rings up an estimated $1.2 trillion in larger deficits over the next decade, primarily by increasing government benefits.
She supports expanding the Child Tax Credit and other welfare benefits delivered via the tax code, which would add $2.3 trillion to the deficit over a decade, according to the Penn Wharton analysis. However, her plan to increase the corporate income tax would offset some of that deficit spending by hiking federal revenues by around $1 trillion.
The biggest difference between the two estimates is the dynamic consequences of Trump's and Harris' tax plans. The tax cuts proposed by Trump would boost economic growth and offset some of the costs of his other proposals. When those consequences are taken into account, the Penn Wharton estimates show that Trump would add merely $4.1 trillion to the deficit over a decade. Harris' proposed tax increases naturally have the opposite impact. As a result, she would add about $2 trillion to the deficit when the economic effects are included.
There is one huge missing piece in the Penn Wharton estimate, which fails to account for the potential costs and fiscal impact of Trump's proposed tariff hikes. The group says that is unable to model that because "key implementation details" are missing, such as what products would be subject to the tariffs and how high the import tax rates would be. "While new import taxes and tariffs could raise several trillion dollars in new revenue over the next decade, they could also lead to revenue losses due to potential retaliatory actions from other governments and other economic dynamics," the Penn Wharton report warns.
It doesn't take an advanced economic analyst to realize that neither Trump nor Harris seem interested in reducing the federal budget deficit. Indeed, Trump borrowed more than $8 trillion during his four years in office, and Harris has been complicit in the Biden administration's efforts to borrow another $4.3 trillion over the past four years. There has been little discussion on the campaign trail of cutting spending or trying to balance the budget (or even stabilizing the debt), even though polls show that voters are worried about the potential consequences of more borrowing.
Some conservatives and libertarians might argue that Trump's deficit-hiking policies should be more acceptable because he's aiming to produce greater economic growth. That might be true if the budget weren't already so wildly out of whack, or if Trump provided some indication that he'd be interested in cutting government spending to offset his planned reductions in future tax revenue.
For now, however, both Trump and Harris are effectively promising to continue the foolish status quo of the past few decades: Giving Americans a more expensive government than we are paying for, and putting the tab on the next generation.
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"(unless Trump comes up with offsetting spending cuts)"
If only he would say he was going to eliminate the department of education or something.
If only tax revenues had increased when the tax cut went into effect.
If only the cost of regulations had been reduced by 1 billion dollars when he was in office.
If only reason hired reporters and not propagandists.
If only tax revenues had increased when the tax cut went into effect.
Growth doesn’t exist. That’s an alt-right myth.
Dumb*ss; The Tax-Cuts didn't drop revenue by $0.01.
Turn your sarcasm meter on.
Your sarcasm generator needs repair.
Total federal tax revenues were $3.32 trillion in 2017, $3.33 trillion in 2018, $3.46 trillion in 2019, $3.42 trillion in 2020
If only he didn't spend trillions shutting down the economy.
Who shut down the economy? You seem confused.
The feds when they sent trillions to the states. Negotiatated, championed and signed by Trump.
Edit: send changed to sent
Spending was after the shut downs...
The states were starting to shut everything down before it passed.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._state_and_local_government_responses_to_the_COVID-19_pandemic#/media/File:COVID-19_outbreak_USA_stay-at-home_order_county_map.svg
The legislative history is quite interesting though.
– Introduced in the House as H.R. 748 (Middle Class Health Benefits Tax Repeal Act of 2019) by Joe Courtney (D-CT) on January 24, 2019[a]
– Committee consideration by House Ways and Means
– Passed the House on July 17, 2019[a] (419–6)
8 months later…
– Passed the Senate as the Coronavirus Aid, Relief, and Economic Security Act on March 25, 2020 (96–0) with amendment
– House agreed to Senate amendment on March 27, 2020 (voice vote)
So I suppose if you go back to Jan 2019...
Maybe start with first act of five Trump signed. The first federal covid relief bill was March 6 2020. 2nd was passed March 14 2020. 3rd and that is Cares Act is March 25.
Most of the economically damaging shut downs were initiated at the state level.
How did they afford that?
They were. However Trump had the authority to put a stop to them under the Interstate Commerce clause. An executive order could have stated that governors could not interfere with companies engaged in interstate commerce. Since that covers almost every business, it would have been an end to the foolishness.
Trump was an excellent president except for failing to lead with liberty during the Covid crisis. If he had, he'd still be president and we'd have had to hope Mike Pence didn't win the Republican Primary.
He forced governors to shut down business?
He sent them trillions to do it. Did the wife who hired a hitman to kill her husband not also commit murder?
He sent them trillions so they can states to shut down?
Presidents cannot shut down state economies. If a governor took fed money and locked down, that’s on him.
So why send them trillions if not to do this? Could it be that was exactly what the Cares Act was design to do?
Look you all want to vote for him, that's fine. I'll be voting for fucking Larry Lockdown (Hogan) probably, since he's polling neck and neck with the Alsobrook (D) in MDs Senate race to replace Cardin. But I hate that fuck and will trash his name all day long for what he did during Covid. Not sure why any libertarian or Republican would defend Trump on Covid though? He fucked up bigly and deserves scorn and bile heaped onto him.
They shut down before any bill was passed.
You could argue they stayed shut down longer, but that's not what you are doing. And Trump was saying to reopen by May. But states continued through the elections.
You may want to revisit your timelines here.
Why? First federal covid bill was signed into law March 6 and first stay home order was issued by PR on March 15 and CA on March 19.
No, they chose to shut down then the feds sent the people money to cover.
Pelosi sent them money that was supposed to go to their citizens and instead went to cronies and pubsec unions because they had murdered their tax base.
That bill was getting signed one way or the other. And if I remember correctly, he fought with her and Schumer over paying the states in the CARES act and then refused to play ball when they tried to do more spending specifically for the state governments. I could be wrong about that though.
Libertarians for 5T in new taxes for the win?
If only we stopped saying tax cuts had to be paid for, like the government owns our income or something...
What kind of crazy libertarian are you?
/s
Please point out where the tax revenue increases are. Thanks!
Total federal tax revenues were $3.32 trillion in 2017, $3.33 trillion in 2018, $3.46 trillion in 2019, $3.42 trillion in 2020
Eliminating any number of departments (except for Defense which is impossible to eliminate - although one could make it way more efficient) would make a negligible dent in the deficit. Deregulation saves some costs unless it results in environmental disasters which are costly too. I don't get why so many Trumpists are against letting Medicare negotiate with big pharma. Why should the US pay the most to big pharma compared to the entire rest of the world? It increases our deficits why everyone else gets a free ride because they have socialized healthcare and can negotiate. Big pharma is not at risk for no development budget if US subsidies of them go down. They will just have to increase costs for other developed countries and spread it around.
So Wharton gives 0 growth to tax reductions on one side and ignores the infinite immigration + affordable housing for all + price caps on the other and comes up with communism is good. They also include 0 negative impact to Kamala's massive tax increases so this is nothing more than an ad for Kamala. Fuck off Boehm.
I’m kind of astounded that, apparently, Wharton has a complete and exhaustive view of the Harris Campaign’s policy proposals.
Otherwise, it would be horribly dishonest to compare one candidates’ complete proposal as culled from their history and platform, even ascribing spending decisions that weren’t theirs to make to them while only using the sparing parts of the other candidate’s nebulous plan.
Remember back in the day when candidates would spout meaningless platitudes like “I’m going to cut housing prices by increasing supply.” and the *media*, not even economists, would push back with “Just saying ‘increasing supply’ isn’t an actual policy, what *exactly* is your plan? If you’re going to cut regulations, what regulations are you going to cut?”
Apparently, now, candidates just say “I’m going to increase supply.” and Wharton fills in not just the details but all the balance sheet information. Favorably even.
Fuck off cut spending
Who are you talking to?
The pols you vote for who never cut spending?
Some random people on the Interwebs who ain't spending anyone else's money?
nice try fed
stop being communist.
Taxes bad deficits good.
Push fiscal responsibility onto the unborn so they are personhoods not victimhoods.
Abortion is the same as student loan cancellation for deadbeats.
Tax and spend, tax and spend. JFuck wants more "free stuff".
Think jfree is intelligent enough to look at the highest taxed states and see their spending levels?
Trump prefers 'borrow and spend'.
Good idea, Colorado property taxes need to go up 1000%, especially in blue-voting areas.
There was a piece on Chalkbeat about Adams 14 not having enough school funding, maybe squeeze some more shit out of those Dem-voting colostomy bags to pay for the cost of their civilization.
Except that CO doesn't have a serious overall debt problem - $22 billion in debt v $18 billion in annual state tax revenues.
CO does have a property tax problem like most Western states. It is too low - which means spending relies too heavily on tax revenues from income or sales or federal transfers. And reduces local govt accountability on local infrastructure. Low prop taxes also drives up housing prices which at this point has just become an asset gimme.
Define "too low".
Property taxes are ultra-locally generated. That should be the main revenue stream for local governance - and that revenue should cover virtually all local expenditures by govt. CO is not corrupt re prop taxes (unlike CA or NYC) so prop taxes could be managed locally. But - prop taxes here do not cover place-based govt expenditures in those local areas. That's the definition of too low.
Because it means local governance is either undermined or castrated or gets free lunches. And there's more pressure then for higher tax revenues from state level sources (income, sales) or federal transfers - all of which moves governance up and away.
Low property taxes in Colorado have never driven up housing prices in the state. As late as 2015, you could still get a decent starter house in the metro for under $200K. Even during the housing bubble, the average cost of a house in the area was just $30K over the dregs of what was left after the bubble popped. One of the reasons so many people have moved to the state since the end of World War II is because the cost of housing until about 2018 was dirt fucking cheap for a decent sized city with massive recreational opportunities.
Housing costs in Colorado have always been about supply and demand, just like every place else.
such as what products would be subject to the tariffs and how high the import tax rates would be.
All products from China at 20%.
They aren't missing details, they deliberately didn't bother.
So you want to increase costs to consumers by 20%. Interesting.
Fuck you, cut spending.
Reason sidles up to Democrats to increase taxes and spending.
No they aren't for Trump.
Are the Democrats proposing tax cuts that I haven’t heard about? That’d be a first.
Are you seriously retarded? Have you not seen her explicit calls for higher taxes and more spending? Then there are the destructive impact of her proposed price caps and the taxes on unrealized gains.. JFC you have to be Sarc levels of drunk to not know what that adds to.
I won't support Kamala in the slightest, she is much worse then Trump. Can't think of one good thing to say about her. I can for Trump, but not on fiscal responsibility.
Trump is an 80s democrat and still has much of that same foundation. He spends like a drunken sailor. On taxes he's better (2017 tax cut, excellent) but the fact that he levied some using EO in defiance of the Constitution (all taxes must arise out of the House) opens him to criticism. So tax and spend Democrat is an apt description.
Some conservatives and libertarians might argue that Trump's deficit-hiking policies should be more acceptable because he's aiming to produce greater economic growth. That might be true if the budget weren't already so wildly out of whack, or if Trump provided some indication that he'd be interested in cutting government spending to offset his planned reductions in future tax revenue.
Everyone says to look at what Trump did, not what he says. Except for bills that he signed. Don't look at them. Look away! Look away!
Poor sarc
Poor ignorant Jeff.
Republicans did it first so it's ok.
Poor sarc
The Libertarian Case For Wealth Taxes
If Reason spent as much time arguing against spending as it does arguing against tax cuts, someone might accidentally mistake it for a libertarian magazine.
This is one of the most TDS articles I've seen.
- Trump borrowed more than $8 trillion.
FLAT OUT LIE
- Trumps deficits from "reduce Americans' tax burden"
- but, but, but "which fails to account for the potential costs and fiscal impact of Trump's proposed tariff hikes."
SO LETS GET THAT STRAIGHT; IF HE CUTS TAXES IT COSTS AND IF HE ADDS TAXES IT COSTS????????????????????????? WTF?
- "or if Trump provided some indication that he'd be interested in cutting government spending"
HOWEVER; ADDING SPENDING IS EXACTLY WHAT HARRIS WANTS.
Seriously Boehm.... Do you sh*t out of your head too? Everything you wrote is contradictory garbage completely upside-down.
I have no idea what Eric Boehm is trying to say.
"Deficit" is a measure of a balanced budget, year by year. (Could be a different time frame, if explicitly stated.)
"Over the next decade" refers to increase in US national debt.
Pul-leeze get your story straight.
Not going to happen.
Getting the story straight would help Trump.
How do you imagine reality would in anyway help Trump?
If it didn’t, why would you lie except out of blatant evil and/or craven dishonesty?
Yeah I really don't like it when deficit and debt are kinda sorta used interchangeably. The story seems to be that the cumulative yearly deficits over a decade will equal X and presumably the debt will grow by the same amount. The problem is that it's highly unlikely that taxes and spending ten years from now will look anything like they do today. There will all sorts of rent seeking, foreign wars, and emergency kerfuffles of multiple descriptions. About the only thing we can actually count on is that neither Trump's or Kamala's proposed policies will be around a decade from now. Which makes all of this reading of the tea leaves a tiresome academic exercise.
That may be true. But then if you want pols to focus on what they can control in the present, the focus should be entirely on spending. And it never is.
Instead the focus is on taxes where the only thing that can controlled is rates not revenues. And all the bamboozle is about projecting rates into revenues into the future. It is the focus on taxes that encourages the bamboozle
We could do something crazy like leave the cuts that were passed in 2017 in place and focus on where we could reduce spending over the next Presidents term.
Which should really be as far forward as we should be looking at budget projections anyways.
I'm $30+ trillion past pissed about tax games. All tax cuts passed in the past need to expire. No more fucking games. Deal with the spending problem.
If we can't do that, then taxes should go up to trend towards balanced budgets (don't really care as much how).
If we CAN get a handle on spending, then fine - reduce taxes and start on round 2 of spending restraint because 'starve the beast' has thus been proven to work - by focusing on spending.
And even using their assertions in this shit article, 5T in taxes means Kamala wants to spend 7T vs 5.8T.
Higher taxes mean higher spending. See every fucking dem run area.
Pretty clear to me. By "adding to deficits" he means in addition to current budget deficits. And he's not saying "debt" for the same reason.
“Trump's proposals would add an estimated $5.8 trillion to the deficit over the next decade,”
This is the part that’s unclear. Are Eric and Penn Wharton saying that in 10 years the defect will be 5.6Trillion (presumably over the current ~2Trillion)? That’s so ridiculous as to be laughable.
So does Harris's relatively rosy budget estimate include such economic policy gems as taxing unrealized capital gains?
Of course. And that such policies will have zero impact on economic growth or anything. People will just pay them happily and everything will just hum right along.
What could possibly go wrong?
totally no capital flight if taxing unrealized gains was implemented
To quote Nina Simone - -
Oh, sinnerman, where you gonna run to?
Sinnerman where you gonna run to?
Where you gonna run to?
All on that day
I feel like Frank Grimes from The Simpsons.
Is Biden not competent to serve?
Does Kamala Harris even have a platform?
Did Wharton develop this deficit model based on a vibe?
WTF?
I have discussions about CPAs conducting SOC2 audits and how stupid it is that CPAs don’t know dick about security. Other discussions about how we (don’t/can’t) know Open Source code is secure. Still other discussions about how Entrust lost their trusted status with Google (and Mozilla) and how, effectively, the entire CA scheme is just a house of cards… and Joe Biden, The Man at The Top of Everything, looses some incoherent verbal diarrhea and half the country winds up staring at each other, at Kamala Harris, then back at each other, and then just shrug and pretend like nothing’s happening.
who is the audience for this?
Those who have long since decided to vote for Democrats, but strategically and reluctantly so.
People who don't have an emotional reaction to criticism of Trump?
People who want to raise taxes by 5T while ignoring dem spending growth, increased regulatory policy, etc. Ie you.
I mean even above you're implying the covid specific bills are the baseline of a Trump administration. I mean that's why you referenced them right? Meanwhile democrats doubled that spending under Biden.
You're a fucking leftist. Lol.
People who want to raise taxes by 5T while ignoring dem spending growth, increased regulatory policy, etc. Ie you.
There's one lie because I never said I wanted any of those things.
I mean even above you’re implying the covid specific bills are the baseline of a Trump administration.
Emergency spending becomes the new baseline. Trump signed the emergency spending. Thus he created the new baseline.
Meanwhile democrats doubled that spending under Biden.
They sure did, and they suck for that along with everything else they did. I've never given support for Democrat or Biden policies, despite your constant lies.
You’re a fucking leftist. Lol.
You don't even know what that word means. It's just a catchall for people you hate.
This analysis includes the Harris tax plan dummy and the model/analysis assumes no negative effects from it dummy. As you attack the plan that in reality spends less. Lol.
Jeffsarc.
See above.
But not for libertarians.
I guess it's settled then. Trump must be an actual Republican, why else would he be proposing twice the deficits of a progressive Democrat?
It's funny because it's true.
Does the stupid burn buddy? Is this another taxes are good stance you'll deny tomorrow?
Unless economic growth from tax cuts creates more revenue than what is lost by cutting taxes, and that’s not always the case, then tax cuts without spending cuts are irresponsible and immoral. It's also standard Republican policy. That’s what makes the joke funny.
Why is it immoral to leave more wealth in the private economy, where it has a chance to grow, instead of taxing it to pre-pay for government spending?
False dichotomy. The spending is going to happen.
Question is who pays for it.
Less is paid now, more in the future.
Passing debt forward is immoral.
Therefore those who demand tax cuts without spending cuts are selfish and immoral.
And irresponsible.
It’s that caveat the liars ignore. I’m on board with tax cuts accompanied by spending cuts. That’s groovy.
But quitting your job while doubling your credit card purchases is just dumb.
What was tax revenue post trump tax cuts buddy?
We get it. You're pro tax now. Yes I have the links. Yes you have to ignore spending good up whenever taxes go up. We get it. You're a Democrat.
You’re a cartoon character
The fuck it is.
Boehm is a regime cuck who will vote for the regime puppet. Most of his rant here is lies and distortion.
Trump's judicial appointments to the Federal bench will be more sympathetic to individual liberties than the judicial appointments of a Harris administration. On this important point the choice should be clear to libertarians.
It is NEVER libertarian to promote the idea that government deficits caused by tax cuts are equivalent in any manner to expenditure increases. Such an equivalence doesn't even exist in private business choices with respect to decisions affecting revenues and expenses.
Trump’s judicial appointments to the Federal bench will be more sympathetic to individual liberties than the judicial appointments of a Harris administration. On this important point the choice should be clear to libertarians.
This. 100x this.
We dodged Merrick Garland. Let me repeat that. MERRICK FUCKING GARLAND.
It is NEVER libertarian to promote the idea that government deficits caused by tax cuts are equivalent in any manner to expenditure increases.
The deficit doesn’t care if it get bigger due to expenditure increases or revenue decreases. Math isn’t political.
Yeah, the deficit doesn't care. But we care where the money is in the meantime.
Show me a single example of when spending didn't increase after a tax increase.
You left off that Harris supports Biden's 5 trillion dollars in tax hikes
It is assumed as that is the only way someone could be retarded enough to believe dems won't drive deficits.
Good grief! Anyone who thinks Harris would add "only" $1.2 trillion over an entire decade is tripping, and I don't want what you're smoking. We'd be lucky if she only added that much in a single year.
We are currently doing that much every 100 days.
I think the claim is that it would be $1.2 trillion on top of however many trillion we increase the debt anyway.
But you're right. The estimates are based on what the candidates are proposing. Since Kamala is avoiding any policy discussion, instead focusing on "joy", you get this low-ball estimate.
The Penn-Wharton model like all budget models just propagates the assumptions of the developers. It's use is basically worthless as it can't account for down stream effects, behaviors of politicians, etc. It assumes certain keyenesian factors on efficiency of spending, what programs will cost, rate programs will grow at. And it is always wrong.
Such as their analysis of the Trump tax cuts.
https://enotrans.org/article/penn-wharton-study-missed-trump-infrastructure-plan/
These models are used to supplement an authors bias, such as Eric's.
The simple fact is the plans shown:
Kamala - 7T new spending, 5T in taxes
Trump - 5.8T in spending. No estimation of revenue from decreasing regulations or growing energy industry.
These models are useless overall.
“Vice President Kamala Harris would add about $2 trillion to the deficit.”
So far.
The Harris-Biden administration hit near 2T just last year. And that was with the House trying to limit spending growth.
It is missing the qualifier - on her first day in office.
No one get elected by promising to do less. History suggests the best outcome for holding down government spending is for a Democrat to be President and for Republicans to control at least one house of Congress. Republicans are only for reduced spending when they don't control the Presidency. It would also help to have more moderate members of both Houses of Congress as they are less likely to talk about cutting spending and more likely to make actual cuts.
History suggests the best outcome for holding down government spending is for a Democrat to be President and for Republicans to control at least one house of Congress.
How's that working out lately?
You mean conservatives owning the purse strings is a good thing?!? Who knew.
That pretty much sums it up. Republicans will let a Republican President spend but will hold the line on a Democrat President.
Lets see here.
Republicans let Republican Trump deficit $779B.
Democrats let Democrat Biden deficit $2.772T.
You have to be blatantly ignorant not to notice MOST (by a factor of 4-TIMES) spending comes from Democrats. Not as-if their compulsive and endless pitches for MORE spending didn't give that away.
Holy fuck!
Trump might increase the deficit because he wants to cut taxes.
Biden-Harris-Obama might (will) increase the deficit because it wants to increase spending.
Yup, these are alike.
If the current spending doesn't go anywhere, then yeah, it's going to increase the deficit. Like others pointed out above, the assessment on Harris's plan is dependent on those "unrealized gains" taxes not being squirreled away in offshore accounts and having no effect whatsoever on assessed values that business loans are based on.
The deficit doesn't care if it rises due to increased spending or decreased revenue.
Name one time spending stayed flat or went down after a tax increase. I’ll cite every blue city as an example against the assertion.
Remember when ACA was "paid for."
Here's another reference point.
2019 federal budget, $4 trillion
2024 federal budet, $7 trillion
If we stormed the Capitol and forced a spending insurrection back to 2019 levels, we would have a surplus.
Anyone feel the federal budget imposed hardships and economic duress in 2019?
Sorry, way too easy to try and make a point by starting or ending your economic statistics during the worst of 2020.
So, nah. 2019 is memory holed. Emergency spending and the grift that followed are the new baseline. It's all emergency spending all the time, now!
Does Penn Wharton have a complete and exhaustive list of Kamala Harris' policy proposals?
It would be interesting that they think they've got it before her campaign-party-administration has released it but if they've got the definitive proposal, it sure would be great if they'd let the public see it for themselves before doing what, uh, economists do and putting their own spin on it before anyone gets a chance to read it.
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Holy Shit! I didn’t watch the DNC. One thing I do know is that a point was made to do something about housing prices. It was discussed. Even if policies weren’t definitively made, Party/campaign intentions were laid out. The article and the Wharton ass jetsam model apparently don’t think any policy on housing costs is going to have an effect on the budget one way or the other.
This is such a dishonest piece of hack economics from Wharton and hack reporting from Reason it’s a wonder Harris won’t even allow itself to be overtly seen touch student loan forgiveness or any of Biden’s other policies with a 10 ft. pole.
Harris' policy is to say "joy" and then let the press fill in anything else.
Same for Obama, and "hope". It worked for him, though the very few policy proposals he did put forth were lies -- comprehensive immigration reform, no tax increase, if you like your plan you can keep your plan. But he had nothing concrete other than those few things. The press and academia just went all gaga over the possibilities they read into it.
So... Joy. Joy cost nothing, according to Wharton. In fact, joy saves us money. Nobody will have to pay that massive many trillion dollar tax increase, giving people $25K each for a house won't affect the housing market at all, or cost anything, and... joy!
Yeah, see above. I feel like Frank Grimes from The Simpsons.
Even for Obama, there was at least "What's in the plan?" for them to have to say, "You'll have to pass the plan to find out what's in the plan." in reply to. This isn't even that.
I work... a lot of the people I know work... to pin down the details of any given plan and price projection... all the risk involved... all the *potential* risk, before a decision is made and here Penn Wharton is, just imposing their authority on 99% of a wing and a prayer.
Fuck off Wharton. Fuck off Boehm.
“He’s called for permanently extending the 2017 tax cuts, which would add an estimated $4 trillion to the deficit over the next decade….”
I’m guessing Boehm never read anything by Arthur Laffer. Tax cuts ~increase~ revenue because people work much harder since they can keep a larger percentage of what they bring in. Likewise, tax hikes decrease revenue for the exactly opposite reason. Tax hikes punish people--they're used solely to buy votes. Tax cuts are done to increase tax revenues.
When asked, Obama said that he'd increase taxes even if it meant lowering overall tax revenues.
“Harris, meanwhile, rings up [only--emphasis mine] an estimated $1.2 trillion in larger deficits over the next decade, primarily by increasing government benefits.”
I have a bridge to sell Boehm. It's in Brooklyn. Hell of a deal.
Tax cuts do not always increase revenue. Going from 100% tax rate to 99% obviously will. Going from 1% to 0% will obviously not. It's not trivial to figure out the effect it would have in the middle; lots of it is psychology.
According to someone that ASSumes no change in anyone's behavior, policies GUARANTEED to change everyone's behavior will have X effect. The claims are ALWAYS the opposite of reality.
Cue My Cousin Vinny. “Everything that guy just said was bullshit.”
The deficit.
I never get tired of clowns equating the words "debt" and "deficit."
If it's going to add to the deficit, then rework the budget. It's not like we've stripped America's budget down to its bare necessitates and are trying to decide between going back to work or selling the family heirlooms.
Our budget is OBSCENELY WASTEFUL.
FIX. THAT.