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Election 2024

A Recession for Kamala?

Plus: Violence in the U.K., dead bears in Central Park, parenting influencer absolutely roasted, and more...

Liz Wolfe | 8.6.2024 9:31 AM

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How will the economy affect Democrats' chances? The party in charge tends to be, rightly or wrongly, tied to current economic conditions in the minds of voters. So recent economic funkiness—a bad jobs report, trepidation about whether the Federal Reserve will act to ratchet down interest rates, headlines about stock market plunges abroad—could end up very bad for Democratic frontrunner Kamala Harris, reports Politico.

It's not just that, though. It's also that Harris is, to some degree, claiming the Biden administration's accomplishments and priorities (junk fees, student loan debt) as her own. So an economy in shambles would be a liability for her, in addition to the fact that President Joe Biden tasked her with handling the crisis at the southern border, which spiraled out of control and led to a record number of border encounters in December 2023.

"We cannot win if people think we're headed into a recession," William Owen, a Democratic National Committee member from Tennessee, told members of the campaign and the party, according to Politico. "Negative news about the economy is going to weigh down the Harris campaign," Republican pollster Micah Roberts told The Wall Street Journal.

"TRUMP CASH vs. KAMALA CRASH!" wrote former President Donald Trump, inartfully, on Truth Social, as he unloaded message after message blaming yesterday's global stock sell-off on Democrats. The economy, and the degree to which a president affects things like unemployment and stock market downturns, is obviously not as simple as he's portraying. But also, he is right to blame "Bidenomics"—which Harris has touted—for a significant part of Americans' economic woes. Reason has done the same.

Biden's policy vision "had many facets—pandemic aid, industrial policy, handouts for labor unions and public workers," wrote Reason's Peter Suderman earlier this year. "But in many ways, it could be reduced to a single, overriding response: government spending."

"Bidenomics was, at heart, a philosophy of throwing money at programs, people, political allies, and favored constituencies," continues Suderman. "That spending contributed directly and significantly to the rapid rise in inflation that helped fuel voter dissatisfaction with the state of affairs."

The outstanding question remains whether Harris' proposed policies would align with Bidenomics or something less (or more) fiscally damaging. Right now, she's mostly chosen to ride out her honeymoon period campaigning almost entirely on vibes, with nary a policy proposal in sight.

Is the economy even as bad as headlines claim? "The decline in the S&P 500 comes less than three weeks after hitting an all-time high and its percentage decline to date hasn't even met the 10% threshold commonly defined as a correction," reports The Wall Street Journal. "Despite the rise in the unemployment rate, other economic indicators, such as retail sales, payrolls and industrial production, are still growing. Stocks fell by more than that twice when Trump was president, in 2018, without signaling recession."

They're not being Pollyannaish or contrarian; there really are mixed indicators that make it quite unclear where we're headed. "Everything about the economy is noisy," Jason Furman, an economic adviser to former President Barack Obama, told the Journal. It's unclear where we're headed.

The main thing that is clear, though, is that both Harris and Trump will blame economic conditions on the other party, and both of them will be a little bit right when they claim that the other will make life more expensive for the little guy. Harris' continuation of big-government Bidenomics or Trump's likely 10 percent tariffs on all imported goods (with possibly higher for those coming from China) would both be bad for Americans. Let's hope our economy is durable enough to withstand the policies of whichever bozo takes office.


Scenes from New York: Robert F. Kennedy Jr. admitted to dumping a bear carcass in Central Park back in 2014 as a joke. He found the bear as roadkill and stuffed it in his car (along with an old bike) before heading to Peter Luger Steak House in Williamsburg. Then needing a way to get the bear out of his car, he left it in Central Park with the bike, trying to make it look like a cyclist had hit it. I mean, who among us?


QUICK HITS

  • "Whether Monday's wild gyrations mark the final bang of a global selloff that started to build last week or signal the beginning of a protracted slump is impossible to know. But one thing is clear: the pillars that had underpinned financial-market gains for years—a series of key assumptions that investors across the world were banking on—have been shaken," reports Bloomberg. "They look, in hindsight, a bit naïve: the US economy is unstoppable; artificial intelligence will quickly revolutionize business everywhere; Japan will never hike interest rates—or not enough to really matter."
  • Really good explanation of what's been happening in the U.K. under Keir Starmer by thinker/musician Winston Marshall.
  • Yesterday, U.S. District Judge Amit Mehta issued a massive defeat for Google, specifically its dominance in search, in the biggest antitrust decision in 25 years. "Google is a monopolist, and it has acted as one to maintain its monopoly," wrote Mehta in his ruling.
  • "As the site of nearly 200 French nuclear tests from 1966 to 1996, French Polynesia developed fast. Before it started detonating nuclear weapons, Paris gifted Tahiti its first airport and modern port. Polynesians employed by the nuclear industry left their palm-frond homes to live in newly built housing blocks on Tahiti, the largest of the territory's 120 or so islands. Tourists arrived, too, lured by the coral-edged beaches and tales of a mighty wave at Teahupo'o," writes The New York Times on the complicated legacy of the French in Tahiti.
  • Kamala Harris just picked Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz—the man who started the recent trend of getting on TV and calling Republicans, especially J.D. Vance, weird—as her running mate.
  • Checking in on Walz:

Lying about being deaf to try to get out of an arrest is actually the most Larry David move possible https://t.co/p0LhmEzede

— Liz Wolfe (@LizWolfeReason) August 5, 2024

  • This terrible gentle-parenting influencer (who goes by "Mrs. Frazzled") deserves to be skewered:

"I've never been good at understanding how the economy works," so I plugged some shit into ChatGPT and scrolled Center for American Progress bc Kamala has no policies on her site and doesn't speak to press, and then I just uncritically accepted whatever they told me! INFLUENCED! https://t.co/BWFZ02JphW

— Mary Katharine Ham (@mkhammer) August 5, 2024

 

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  1. Fist of Etiquette   10 months ago

    How will the economy affect Democrats' chances?

    SHE WAS NEVER THE ECONOMY CZAR.

    1. Ajsloss   10 months ago

      Everyone is always Russian to conclusions.

      1. Overt   10 months ago

        She may have done some good and some bad, but nyet-nyet she was a poor VP, IMHO.

        1. Sometimes a Great Notion   10 months ago

          She Cheka the right box

          1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   10 months ago

            I hear lots of people Czeched her box.

      2. Don't look at me!   10 months ago

        Am I Putin this pun in the right place?

        1. Ajsloss   10 months ago

          Certainly. But it's an hour old now, don't know why you were Stalin.

          1. Don't look at me!   10 months ago

            I had to Czech out a few things elsewhere.

          2. Don't look at me!   10 months ago

            Donbas me around!

    2. LIBtranslator   10 months ago

      So Squeaky Lizard Fromme, Gorbasuch and Pence are Reason contributors?! Orange Hitler shows up at Jesus Caucus conventions demanding we vote for God's Own Prohibitionists. So where in this are the planks saying it's NOT OK to rape or force women to reproduce? Where is the repeal of all prohibition laws? Income tax? Protectionism? What planks are the looters giving up to get us to waste votes in them?

      1. Mother's Lament   10 months ago

        Orange buffalo Madagascar wimple.

      2. Its_Not_Inevitable   10 months ago

        Comstock!

  2. Fist of Etiquette   10 months ago

    We cannot win if people think we're headed into a recession...

    Time for a captured news media to redefine recession I guess.

    1. Fist of Etiquette   10 months ago

      Everything about the economy is noisy...

      There it is.

      1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   10 months ago

        Thank God it isnt climate or the noise would be end of the world.

    2. R Mac   10 months ago

      Again?

      1. Don't look at me!   10 months ago

        Poor journalists, have to do all the heavy lifting.

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   10 months ago

          As in lifting talking points and vocabulary from daily DNC announcements?

    3. Gaear Grimsrud   10 months ago

      Nothing to worry about. It's transitory.

      1. Ajsloss   10 months ago

        And if you are worrying, you out yourself as a transphobe.

    4. JohnZ   10 months ago

      Recession won't be the only thing to be concerned about. If Harris is installed in the White House, best be prepared for total collapse of the economy and society. Anarchy, chaos, lawlessness, everything that comes with it.

    5. Moonrocks   10 months ago

      Again? We did that just last year.

    6. Jerry B.   10 months ago

      Harris can do what Trump does. Blame Biden.

  3. Fist of Etiquette   10 months ago

    Bidenomics was, at heart, a philosophy of throwing money at programs, people, political allies, and favored constituencies...

    The failure was of course not enough money and not enough favored constituencies.

    1. Anomalous   10 months ago

      Not enough money? They were printing it as fast as they could.

      1. Moonrocks   10 months ago

        Their best wasn't good enough.

  4. Ajsloss   10 months ago

    And the bear was infected with covid, right?

    1. InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)   10 months ago

      Of course, just ask Jeffy.

      1. Mother's Lament   10 months ago

        Silly ITL and Ajsloss, you can’t get Covid from a trunk. That was obviously a bat or an Asian raccoon dog filling in for the bear. Just ask Jeff, he's a scientist.

    2. Anomalous   10 months ago

      He was just angry at the bear because some woman chose it over him.

  5. Fist of Etiquette   10 months ago

    Robert F. Kennedy Jr. admitted to dumping a bear carcass in Central Park back in 2014 as a joke.

    As far as dead things found in Kennedy automobiles, is this one really that bad?

    1. Don't look at me!   10 months ago

      It may be past the time when we abandon the Kennedy family.

      1. R Mac   10 months ago

        Leave them for dead?

        1. Don't look at me!   10 months ago

          I’m good with that.

          1. Randy Sax   10 months ago

            Let the worms have them?

            1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   10 months ago

              Last thing we need is a mob of drunk worms.

      2. Anomalous   10 months ago

        Sure, let's give that a shot.

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   10 months ago

          Quit sniping!

      3. NoVaNick   10 months ago

        They do have a thing for dumping bodies, human and bear

        1. Gaear Grimsrud   10 months ago

          The Clinton's to their credit haven't killed any bears. That we know of.

          1. Mother's Lament   10 months ago

            The hills around Little Rock are littered with the corpses of bears who committed suicide with a double tap to the back of the skull.

  6. Fist of Etiquette   10 months ago

    ...Japan will never hike interest rates—or not enough to really matter.

    Time to declare war on Germany, I say.

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   10 months ago

      Russia, general, we are at war with Russia.

  7. Fist of Etiquette   10 months ago

    Really good explanation of what's been happening in the U.K. under Keir Starmer...

    Multiculturalism for the win.

    1. Don't look at me!   10 months ago

      Diversity is their strength!

      1. Social Justice is neither   10 months ago

        Are you really civilized country without acid and machette attacks along with the odd car bombing?

        1. Super Scary   10 months ago

          It's part and parcel when living in the big city. Nothing can be done, it's just the way it is.

      2. Medulla Oblongata   10 months ago

        Freedom is Slavery!

    2. Roberta   10 months ago

      Why isn't HyR this fair about the USA and some other countries?

      1. Jefferson Paul   10 months ago

        Can you, or someone else, please explain what HyR or HnR or the other combinations I've seen here mean?

        1. Don't look at me!   10 months ago

          Hit and run.

        2. DesigNate   10 months ago

          Back in the long long ago, it used to be called Hit & Run. Can’t remember if it was just the link dumps in the morning/evening or the entire blog.

        3. Jefferson Paul   10 months ago

          Thanks for the responses. I've only been reading the articles and comments since 2020, and at least since that points it's been the Roundup.

    3. Earth-based Human Skeptic   10 months ago

      Huh? Something happening in the UK? Not according to US media.

      1. Mother's Lament   10 months ago

        If you ask Jeffy, racist racists are protesting their abusers, both police and colonists, racistly.

    4. JohnZ   10 months ago

      Civil war coming to Britain.
      Going long on guns and ammo.

      1. Ajsloss   10 months ago

        And kitchen knives with curved blades!

        1. Mother's Lament   10 months ago

          What about fresh fruit?

  8. Don't look at me!   10 months ago

    So we have two felons on the ballot now?

    1. Spiritus Mundi   10 months ago

      Hard to attack the 'convicted' felon you are running against while glossing over the one you are running with. I am sure this double standard will go unnoticed.

      1. Ajsloss   10 months ago

        They’re totally (d)ifferent. On one hand, you have a guy covering up a liaison between consenting adults. On the other, you have a harmless prank attempting to cover up a victimless crime.

    2. Ben of Houston   10 months ago

      Three. The crimes being DUI, illegal dumping, and signing an NDA while being out of political favor

  9. R Mac   10 months ago

    "Google is a monopolist, and it has acted as one to maintain its monopoly," wrote Mehta in his ruling.

    Look at Meta going after their competition!

  10. Ajsloss   10 months ago

    a bit naïve: the US economy is unstoppable

    I guess spittin tobacky ain’t the blue chip it once was.

    1. Red Rocks White Privilege   10 months ago

      Taylor Swift ticket sales fail the nation once again.

      1. Medulla Oblongata   10 months ago

        Does the stabbing deaths of 3 young women and injuries of seven more Swift fans by the son of Rwandan immigrants in Southport warrant any coverage in any media outside the UK?

        Or is it just the rioting that resulted that's worth discussing? Few people seem concerned about the authoritarian crackdowns coming there, either.

        https://www.spiked-online.com/2024/08/03/after-southport-the-rage-against-the-throng/

        It seems unarguable to me that it wasn’t the grievances behind these various riots that caused the elites to judge them so differently. After all, everyone agrees that the killing of George Floyd was awful, and that the removal of children from the family home can cause deep distress, and that the mass murder in Southport was an act of unspeakable evil. No, it is the identity of the rioters that determines whether they receive sympathy or hatred, pity or bile, Starmer’s slavish genuflection or Starmer’s promise of a savage law-and-order clampdown. The reason the post-Southport rioting so horrified the cultural establishment is not because of what was done but because of who did it. Them. The white lower orders. The people we never want to hear from. Ever.

        The existence of a two-tier system of policing is undeniable now. Cops ran away from the Harehills riot, yet they stayed put in Southport and Hartlepool and cracked heads. They used kid gloves on ‘pro-Palestine’ protesters who waved brazenly anti-Semitic placards, yet they declared war on the anti-Islam agitators of Southport, Hartlepool and London. The police do not operate in a vacuum. They get their cues from the establishment. And the cue here is that white working-class men are the lowest of the low, the most morally corrupt of identity groups, and thus deserve everything they get.

        1. Medulla Oblongata   10 months ago

          I said "young women" but I should have said "children" and the victims were ever younger than I had thought.

          "Teenager Axel Rudakubana will turn 18 on Wednesday, August 7. He is accused of killing Bebe King, six, Elsie Dot Stancombe, seven and Alice Dasilva Aguiar, nine with a curved-blade kitchen knife. He is also charged with the attempted murder of yoga class instructor Leanne Lucas, businessman John Hayes, and eight children - who cannot be named for legal reasons - as well as with possession of a kitchen knife with a curved blade

          1. Ajsloss   10 months ago

            possession of a kitchen knife with a curved blade

            We need common sense blade control.

            1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   10 months ago

              Britain was lost decades ago. At this point the best option would be to invite the remaining liberty-oriented people to the US, in exchange for some of our anti-white culture nanny socialists.

        2. Red Rocks White Privilege   10 months ago

          The reason the post-Southport rioting so horrified the cultural establishment is not because of what was done but because of who did it. Them. The white lower orders. The people we never want to hear from. Ever.

          That's really what it boils down to. People who are hated and feared by the very politicians who think those demographics need to undergo perpetual humiliation rituals for the sin of their skin color, as their marxist theology demands.

        3. R Mac   10 months ago

          Nuh uh!

          — Lying Jeffy

          1. InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)   10 months ago

            Jeffy was an asshole yesterday over this. As far as I’m concerned, he should introduce himself to the favored buttplug of Vlad the Impaler. The one he liked to use on other people.

            1. Mother's Lament   10 months ago

              Jeffy is an asshole everyday. He's a Nazi with some of the most horrific positions on things, and what makes him even worse than the old ones is he thinks he's actually on moral high ground.
              Even the 1940's versions knew that their methods of achieving their goals were morally wrong and tried to hide them. Jeffy demands people recognize his monstrous ideas as a good.

              1. Overt   10 months ago

                I don't think so. I think deep down he really does like the idea of liberty. It's just that he HATES the right much more than he likes liberty. Since the entire media and government complex depends on the Right vs Left dynamic, he will forever choose supporting that culture war over doing anything that brings us closer to liberty.

                1. Mother's Lament   10 months ago

                  Overt, you don’t advocate the things Jeffy advocates if deep down you like the idea of liberty, no matter how much he hates the proles. He'll give lip service to liberty but it's always with a pile of caveats, exceptions and what ifs, because the man is a totalitarian.

                  1. chemjeff radical individualist   10 months ago

                    lol, you are the chief gaslighter around here, you completely lie about what I actually stand for. FFS you actually tried to claim with a straight face that I support Aktion T4. Why don't you try that one again. That was absurd beyond words. But you don't just lie, you lie bigly and with a straight face.

                    1. EISTAU Gree-Vance   10 months ago

                      It is human nature to prey on the weak. That’s what emboldens your “newcomers” to do horrible things.

                      You are weakness and self loathing personified, Jeff.

                2. chemjeff radical individualist   10 months ago

                  It’s just that he HATES the right much more than he likes liberty.

                  That is absolutely false. Liberty is the #1 goal for me, now and forever. I simply reject the idea that the Right is the biggest supporter of liberty. They are not.

                  1. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   10 months ago

                    I simply reject the idea that the Right is the biggest supporter of liberty. They are not.

                    How dare they promote protection of womanhood and childhood and personhood. Those right bastards!

                  2. chemjeff radical individualist   10 months ago

                    How dare they promote protection of womanhood and childhood and personhood. Those right bastards!

                    But they don't. Not in a libertarian sense.

                    They promote protection of "womanhood" but only if the woman acts in a traditionally conservative way. A woman who chooses a career in the workforce and chooses not to have children becomes a "childless cat lady" and an object of scorn. HER decision on how she represents her "womanhood" is illegitimate.

                    They promote protection of "childhood" but only if the child acts in a traditionally conservative way. What if the child is gay? What if the child is transgender? What if the child wants to learn more about so-called 'woke ideologies'? Then the child's conception of his/her own "childhood" is illegitimate, the child is being "brainwashed", and the state should step in to "guide" the child into the "correct" path of childhood.

                    They promote protection of "personhood" but only if the person acts in a traditionally conservative way. What if the person is a drag queen? What if the person burns an American flag? What if the person downloads porn on the Internet? Then those choices should not be respected, and the person's proper conception of "personhood" should be restrained and restricted by the state.

                    Both teams have gone fully totalitarian on how they view the role of the government in shaping "the model citizen".

                    1. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   10 months ago

                      Cite?

                      Oh, you have nothing other than rhetoric to support your lies? You can't actually point at a policy? Other than an old law from 1910 that may very well have never been enforced?

                      Sad!

                    2. Medulla Oblongata   10 months ago

                      They promote protection of “womanhood” but only if the woman acts in a traditionally conservative way. A woman who chooses a career in the workforce and chooses not to have children becomes a “childless cat lady” and an object of scorn. HER decision on how she represents her “womanhood” is illegitimate.

                      Conversely, and essentially equivalently, among the liberal elite, a woman who chooses to have children and eschew a career is mocked and considered worthless.

                      E.g., (one of many google turned up)

                      https://www.eviemagazine.com/post/why-more-women-are-choosing-to-be-feminine-not-feminist

                      Simone De Beauvoir, one of the grandmothers of feminist philosophy and critical thought, worked hard to undermine the beauty, grace, and virtuousness of women’s work. Instead of giving women a way to think of their roles as dignified, worthy, enjoyable, and necessary, she made every attempt possible to degrade it.

                      When proponents tell you that radical feminism is just about equality and it’s about women being free to live as they choose, remember these foundational quotes made by feminist thought leaders like De Beauvoir. Underneath the bows and ribbons championing "girl power" is an absolute and unyielding hatred for all things traditionally feminine.

                      All of this has produced in women an intense resistance to wanting to build families, to date for marriage, to see motherhood as something that’s empowering or fulfilling. Femininity is not seen as creative, nurturing, wise and gentle as it should be, but as simply being a doormat.

                      She mocked motherhood: “That the child is the supreme aim of the woman is a statement having precisely the value of an advertising slogan.” She mocked homemaking: “Few tasks are more like the torture of Sisyphus than housework with its endless repetition.” She insulted femininity: “To be feminine is to show oneself as weak, futile, passive and docile.” And she even mocked marriage: “To catch a husband is an art; to hold him is a job.”

                3. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   10 months ago

                  He couldn’t give less of a shit about liberty. Try having a discussion with him about why a grown man should be prohibited from standing nude in his front window where kids have a full view from a bus stop. He will argue that is not a violation of the NAP. Ditto for schools grooming kindergartners with discussions about sexuality.

                  If you want to stand at the window with your dick hanging out, purchase a privacy fence. If you want to teach sex to young kids, start a private school. Expecting tolerance of that behavior in a public forum makes you the giant asshole.

                  Social norms in a free society are the market for ideas establishing boundaries for when behavior becomes abusive. If an individual of his own free will cannot sell himself into slavery, Jeffy would call that an infringement of his liberty.

                  1. chemjeff radical individualist   10 months ago

                    Social norms in a free society are the market for ideas establishing boundaries for when behavior becomes abusive.

                    That is the flaw in your thinking. Violation of social norms does not constitute "abusive behavior" per se. It is simply an individual deciding to dissent from the majority. ACTUAL "abusive behavior" is behavior that results in measurable, tangible abuse.

                    Fun fact: It used to be illegal for a woman to wear bathing suits in public deemed "too immodest".

                    https://metropolitics.org/Invisible-Lines-in-the-Sand-LA-s-Ban-on-Bathing-Suits-in-the-1910s.html

                    So tell me, in 1910 America, what precisely was the "abuse" that the woman wearing the too-short bathing suit exerted on everyone else? Hmm?

                    But the real issue here, is that these social standards are being imposed by government force. I think there ought to be social standards, but I don't think it should be *illegal* to violate them.

                    1. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   10 months ago

                      Shorter Jeffy: "Harumph, harumph, the hell with context, you should try to justify something that was illegal in 1910."

                      Your only response is absurdity, completely ignoring the valid arguments to take umbrage with the single unqualified statement of opinion. Exposing yourself to children is abuse. Grooming children is abuse. You have, without question, defended both of those things and will continue to do so. You defend abuse. You lose, you pathetic lefty shill.

                    2. chemjeff radical individualist   10 months ago

                      Exposing yourself to children is abuse.

                      So you have clearly decided that “abuse” means “violation of social norms”, even if there is no tangible signs of ‘abuse’ on the victim.

                      That is why I bring up the 1910s law against “immodest” bathing suits. The Chucky of 1910 would have said “going out in public with a bathing suit that is more than six inches above the knee is abuse of children, and should be illegal!” It’s ridiculous when viewed in a modern light, and the fact of the matter is, no one was actually abused by some woman wearing a bathing suit that was 5-1/2″ above the knee.

                      Did you know that, right now, there are nudist camps where it is completely legal for adults and children to run around naked? Should those be banned? The parents of those kids don’t think that they are being abused. But hey maybe they are wrong, maybe Chucky knows better and should be substituting his judgment for the judgment of those parents instead. What do you think?

                      Imposing social norms via law is just a way for the government to do some social engineering on the entire public, using "but the children!" as a pretext.

                      You have, without question, defended both of those things and will continue to do so.

                      No – I don’t think those things should be PUNISHED BY THE STATE. I don’t defend them as good ideas per se. That is what you cannot see.

                      Oh, and your team’s definition of ‘grooming’ is absurd and I reject it completely.

                    3. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   10 months ago

                      And here you are defending abuse.

                      I got you pegged. Oh, and sorry if that phrase triggers you, I am sure you heard it a lot from your mom.

            2. Chipper Chunked Chile Con Congress (ex NCW)   10 months ago

              "yesterday"

              HAH! I laughed. 😀

        4. Super Scary   10 months ago

          "Or is it just the rioting that resulted that’s worth discussing?"

          I am seeing more and more articles essentially omit the origins of why people are rioting and just going with the classic "these are a bunch of racists/islamophobes!" label.

        5. chemjeff radical individualist   10 months ago

          No, it is the identity of the rioters that determines whether they receive sympathy or hatred, pity or bile,

          Oh give it a fucking rest. It is not Keir Starmer's fault that the rioters decided to take out their rage in a bigoted fashion.

          Let's review:

          A British citizen, son of Rwandan immigrants, commits some horrible crimes.
          A bunch of outraged people, thinking falsely that he was an "illegal Muslim", decided to take out their rage against completely innocent people, asylum seekers at a hotel, and mosques.
          Keir Starmer: We won't stand for these acts of violence motivated by bigotry.
          Spiked: C'mon, those racist attacks against innocent people are totally understandable. Why won't anyone think of those poor oppressed white people whom the elites won't even listen to?

          What does Spike really expect the British government to do? "Sure, it was a British citizen who murdered those girls, but we totally understand that the real problem is all the foreigners in the country. When one black guy murders girls, all of the black guys are responsible as far as we're concerned."

          1. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   10 months ago

            What does Spike really expect the British government to do? “

            Show at least the amount of tolerance for the anger of people over a real crime in their own neighborhood that they did for the anger of people over an unproven crime in the United States. You are completely ignoring the reaction of the British government to the George Floyd riots.

            What they should be doing now is issuing a plea for tolerance and educating the populace instead of escalating with threats of state reprisals.

            1. chemjeff radical individualist   10 months ago

              Show at least the amount of tolerance for the anger of people over a real crime in their own neighborhood

              The mobs' anger is directed at people who had nothing to do with this crime. So again, you want the British government to say "we totally understand and sympathize why you are scapegoating innocent people for the crimes of an individual"?

              1. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   10 months ago

                How about "we totally understand that you are horrified and angered by these brutal murders, we promise that justice will be served if you let us handle it." You need some of those prism glasses that switch left and right.

                Oh, and go fuck yourself, lefty shill.

          2. Red Rocks White Privilege   10 months ago

            "Nooo this one murderer was a black christian, not a muslim! Ignore the rape gangs and two-tier shit, everything is still fine!"

            1. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   10 months ago

              It helps when he pretends that the horrifying murder of these little girls is the only crime that has ever been perpetuated by a child of Muslim immigrants in all of England.

              1. chemjeff radical individualist   10 months ago

                The parents are Christians from Rwanda.

                And what would it matter if he was Muslim? Are all Muslims responsible for the crimes of every other Muslim?

                1. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   10 months ago

                  The parents are Christians from Rwanda.

                  And?

                  Context matters, Jeff. Read what I wrote and try again.

                  1. chemjeff radical individualist   10 months ago

                    Look.
                    A British citizen, the child of Christian Rwandan immigrants, committed a horrible crime.
                    In response, violent mobs have attacked and committed violence against Muslims and asylum seekers who had nothing at all to do with the crime.
                    And you want the British government to sympathize with the bigots?

                    1. InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)   10 months ago

                      It's a trigger for this as the police and government were not honest with the people about it. How much of a dumbass are you not to see that this did not build up in a minute, much less a year or two. It's been building for the better part of two fucking decades or more.

                      And yes, Jeffy, some of these Muslims and immigrants have committed criminal acts and the government, both Tories and Labour, treat them with kid gloves and permit two-tiered policing of these communities instead of having one rule for all. The people, the British people, the British people who are white, black, Indian, Afro-Caribbean, Celtic, Anglo-Saxon, Hindu, Sikh, Anglican, Catholic, are fucking sick and tired of it. Who the fuck are the real bigots, dipshit, these folks, or the Muslims who believe they don't need to assimilate to being British, that they can attempt to impose Sharia law?

                      And you know the PM has totally fucked up when he got the Irish, Protestant and Catholic, Unionist and Republican, to unite against him.

          3. Medulla Oblongata   10 months ago

            When the real world provides the counter example…the double standard is the issue. Not that the white rioters are right, but that ONLY the white rioters are likely to face consequences.

            https://www.spiked-online.com/2024/08/06/why-cant-jess-phillips-condemn-the-birmingham-mob/

            Last night, in Bordesley Green in the east of Birmingham, hundreds of British Muslim men and youths – most of them masked up, some carrying weapons – gathered near a McDonald’s. They claimed to be defending the local mosque from a rumoured far-right protest. But the protest turned out to be fake news.

            [Edit: just like the white rioters fake news about illegal immigrant murders]

            Worse than that, some of these plucky defenders of their community seemed to be oddly indiscriminate in who they went after. A group of men, armed with a metal pole, chased LBC’s Fraser Knight out of the area. As soon as he arrived, says Knight, this bespectacled journalist and his crew were accused of being the EDL and told they would ‘regret’ coming to Bordesley Green.

            Sky News’s Becky Johnson was live on air when she was confronted by the thugs. One rode up on a bike and chanted ‘Free Palestine’. Another approached the camera and made gun gestures to the people at home. Later on, Sky released footage of a masked man trying to stab the tyres of their broadcast van as they left.

            Worst of all, a man was badly beaten by a group of masked youths outside of a pub, the Clumsy Swan. Punters, who had hitherto been enjoying a karaoke night, were barricaded inside. The pub was attacked, too. A car also had its windows smashed in, and there are other reports of criminal damage in the area.

            West Midlands Police have confirmed all of this in a statement, saying they intend to investigate what they euphemistically call ‘sporadic incidents of criminality’. But no arrests have yet been made and Knight is quite rightly apoplectic about the marked absence of police last night. ‘In the 40 minutes we were there, we saw perhaps two or three police cars driving past’, he says. A video shows a cop car casually sliding by the scene.

            1. Chipper Chunked Chile Con Congress (ex NCW)   10 months ago

              BUT THERE WERE WHITE PEOPLE WHO WERE ANGRY!

  11. Randy Sax   10 months ago

    This terrible gentle-parenting influencer (who goes by "Mrs. Frazzled") deserves to be skewered:

    When is this "being an influencer" trend gonna die? I don't see the appeal.

    1. R Mac   10 months ago

      Especially that kind. Hot chicks dancing in skimpy clothes I get, but listening to retards who sound like they’re talking to other retards? I can’t make it more than about 10 seconds.

      1. Spiritus Mundi   10 months ago

        ^This. These are the kind of people when you run into in real life, you just roll your eyes and walk away. Why do people watch that inane crap for hours on end?

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   10 months ago

          Have you seen mass-market TV programming from the past 5 decades?

      2. Zeb   10 months ago

        There are a lot of retards out there.

        1. Quo Usque Tandem   10 months ago

          That and a lot of cat ladies...

        2. InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)   10 months ago

          And some of them are here. I don’t necessarily want to name names, but they’re Pluggo, Jeffy, M4e, Sarc, the reverend, Misek, and misconstrueman. I’m sure I missed a few.

          1. Bertram Guilfoyle   10 months ago

            *and associated socks* should cover it.

          2. Quo Usque Tandem   10 months ago

            What ever happened to the self-deprecating Tony? I think he was genuinely pathetic.

            1. EISTAU Gree-Vance   10 months ago

              Tony was nothing if not genuine.

      3. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   10 months ago

        You just described a jeff, sarc, shrike nested thread.

        1. Mother's Lament   10 months ago

          "Infested", not "nested".

          1. Bertram Guilfoyle   10 months ago

            “Infested”

            Are you implying they're "vermin"? Nazi!

      4. Medulla Oblongata   10 months ago

        And 87 edits in a 90 second clip?

      5. DesigNate   10 months ago

        What, you don’t like being condescended to by a blonde with a nice rack?

        1. Mike Parsons   10 months ago

          It does appear from the video posted, that she's got the heavies.

    2. Sometimes a Great Notion   10 months ago

      Never. "A sucker is born every minute" , still stands the test of time.

  12. Fist of Etiquette   10 months ago

    Kamala Harris just picked Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz...

    Will that white male be enough to save her campaign?

    1. Spiritus Mundi   10 months ago

      The person who got a total of ZERO votes to be the candidate will get the most votes ever in the general election. More than sleepy Joe's 81 million.

      1. Idaho-Bob   10 months ago

        Nah, the Jamie Raskin's of the world are salivating to remove Trump after he is elected. Fuck the SCOTUS and fuck the electorate. He is calling for Civil War, because he thinks the Left will win without destroying the US.

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   10 months ago

          I suggest we "surrender" now, and let progressives have all of the super-blue counties they currently dominate. They can get busy building walls (totally not to keep people in), and the rest of us can get back to productive life and commerce. Of course, we will have to replace high finance, Hollywood entertainment, academia, and all the other elite class contributions to the greater good.

        2. JohnZ   10 months ago

          Ratskin is one person whom I would like to see the cancer in his brain metastasize.

    2. Moonrocks   10 months ago

      Weird choice. Was the Harris campaign worried about losing Minnesota? Was Tim Walz the only guy that accepted the offer?

  13. Fist of Etiquette   10 months ago

    Lying about being deaf to try to get out of an arrest is actually the most Larry David move possible...

    Costanza!

    1. R Mac   10 months ago

      Was that wrong? Should I not have done that? I tell you, I gotta plead ignorance on this thing, because if anyone had said anything to me at all when I first started here that that sort of thing is frowned upon... you know, cause I've worked in a lot of offices, and I tell you, people do that all the time.

      1. Quo Usque Tandem   10 months ago

        Well no one said he couldn't do it...

        1. Gaear Grimsrud   10 months ago

          If they can't find an identical case he's entitled to qualified immunity.

  14. Sometimes a Great Notion   10 months ago

    It's unclear where we're headed.

    Try opening your eyes, you'll see the fires of hell clearly rising above the horizon.

    1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   10 months ago

      Bro. Thats the sun. It is morning.

      1. Sometimes a Great Notion   10 months ago

        My window is facing West. Pretty sure its the 122% debt to gdp fire I see.

        1. Stuck in California   10 months ago

          Exactly. Hop into the handbasket.

      2. Roberta   10 months ago

        It's mourning?

      3. Nachtwaechter Staater   10 months ago

        "It is morning."

        Kamala just picked the only politician who is more of a blow-hard asshole than Trump to be her running mate.

        IT IS FUCKING MORNING IN AMERICA, MAN!

        1. Jefferson Paul   10 months ago

          "It's mourning in America"?

  15. Fist of Etiquette   10 months ago

    This terrible gentle-parenting influencer (who goes by "Mrs. Frazzled") deserves to be skewered...

    How have I thankfully been spared this latest phenomenon?

    1. Sometimes a Great Notion   10 months ago

      Old age?

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   10 months ago

        Functional IQ?

    2. Red Rocks White Privilege   10 months ago

      Maybe if she didn't do "gentle parenting," she wouldn't be so frazzled from trying to keep her kids from suffering a single moment of bad feelings.

  16. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   10 months ago

    Tim Walz is unknown to most Americans, including Democrats

    I certainly couldn't pick him out of a line-up of Bernie Sanders impersonators.

    1. InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)   10 months ago

      True, he does lack the large presence of JB Pritzker.

      1. Mother's Lament   10 months ago

        Pritzker is a Democratic Party heavyweight, with a big following that outweighs that of many others.

    2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   10 months ago

      That's because you didn't grow up in Little Somalia.

  17. Don't look at me!   10 months ago

    ..then I just uncritically accepted whatever they told me!

    The same reaction many people had during the Covid fiasco.

    1. Ajsloss   10 months ago

      Facts changed! Any of you would’ve done the same.

  18. Spiritus Mundi   10 months ago

    It's also that Harris is, to some degree, claiming the Biden administration's accomplishments and priorities (junk fees, student loan debt) as her own.

    Not just her, MSM has changed their style guidelines to include her in everything. It is now Biden and Harris or the president and vp when 'reporting' on the administration.

    1. Ajsloss   10 months ago

      That’s been going on for awhile. When I login to pay my student loans (because I promised to pay back the money I was given), there is a message about the Biden/Harris Administration’s loan forgiveness qualifications. Been like that for well over a year.

      1. Randy Sax   10 months ago

        The message on the website I use is basically "You don't get jack shit, don't even try."

    2. Moonrocks   10 months ago

      MSM has changed their style guidelines to include her in everything

      Well, not everything. She is, of course, thoroughly uninvolved in the border crisis.

      1. Its_Not_Inevitable   10 months ago

        Ha!

  19. InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)   10 months ago

    Harris-Walz…

    She sucks, and he blows (the limit).

    1. Quo Usque Tandem   10 months ago

      Well done!

  20. Spiritus Mundi   10 months ago

    This terrible gentle-parenting influencer (who goes by "Mrs. Frazzled") deserves to be skewered:

    Why are they always in their cars?

    1. Sometimes a Great Notion   10 months ago

      Probably to present the person as someone on the go just taking a few minutes out of their busy day to let you in on their secret knowledge.

      Because their reality - sipping white wine while doom scrolling - doesn't make a good impression.

      1. Longtobefree   10 months ago

        Sipping white wine isn't all that bad.
        It is when they guzzle directly from the box that puts me off.

        1. R Mac   10 months ago

          When they start sipping early afternoon it’s an issue. (See: sarcasmic)

          1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   10 months ago

            Since when is 9:15 am "afternoon"?

          2. Don't look at me!   10 months ago

            You misspelled “guzzling “.

    2. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   10 months ago

      It would undermine their influence if you could hear their children fighting in the background.

    3. Anomalous   10 months ago

      Acoustics.

      1. Red Rocks White Privilege   10 months ago

        I remember Reviewbrah doing a bunch of vids in his car around COVID-time, but he appears to have had a basic setup in his house for a while now, and he did a lot of outdoor patio vids for a while before COVID.

        SAGN's note about wanting to give off the impression that they're this busy on-the-go person is probably pretty accurate when it comes to the TikThots.

        1. Ska   10 months ago

          Let's not impugn the fine women showing us their ass cheeks by referencing these other broads as thots.

          1. Quicktown Brix   10 months ago

            Yeah, let me know when she gets to the part of the video where she demonstrates how durable that dress is if it gets wet while she is bra and panty-less.

        2. Commenter_XY   10 months ago

          Red, WTF is a 'thot'?

          People come up with weird shit.

          1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   10 months ago

            That Hottie Over There.

            1. Zeb   10 months ago

              Huh. Didn't realize it was an acronym.

              1. Jefferson Paul   10 months ago

                I didn't either.

                1. Jefferson Paul   10 months ago

                  Next you're going to tell me MILF is also an acronym.

                2. EISTAU Gree-Vance   10 months ago

                  I did. I coined it.

            2. Ska   10 months ago

              That Hoe Over There is the translation over here.

              Must be a regional difference.

          2. Red Rocks White Privilege   10 months ago

            That Ho Over There

            1. Ska   10 months ago

              I just needed to scroll one more comment...

  21. sarcasmic   10 months ago

    But also, he is right to blame “Bidenomics”—which Harris has touted—for a significant part of Americans’ economic woes. Reason has done the same.

    Not according to the narrative. The narrative says Reason blames everything on Trump and defends Biden. So either that is a lie or the narrative is a lie.

    1. Don't look at me!   10 months ago

      Cite?

    2. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   10 months ago

      A guy that refers to himself "sarcasmic" while failing to grasp that equivocation is not a valid form of sarcasm. A truly amazing display of intellect.

      1. Nachtwaechter Staater   10 months ago

        Is that what the greybox is doing today?

      2. InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)   10 months ago

        He revels in a total and complete lack of self awareness.

      3. Mother's Lament   10 months ago

        But he's the smartest guy here. Just ask him.
        An internet IQ test told him he has an IQ of 140, and those things are always accurate.

    3. Bertram Guilfoyle   10 months ago

      Posting the same thing everyday does not strengthen your case.

      1. Mother's Lament   10 months ago

        Originality isn't one of Sarcasmic's faults.

  22. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   10 months ago

    Britain is blowing up as jeffsarc defend the actions of their government. In the last 30 hours shit has gone way down hill in respect to government authoritarianism.

    First you have the PM promising to only defend Muslims and mosques as he threatens arrests.

    “Whatever the apparent motivation, this is not protest. It is pure violence and we will not tolerate attacks on mosques or our Muslim communities,” Starmer said. “The full force of the law will be visited on all those who are identified as having taken part in these activities.”

    https://apnews.com/article/britain-riots-asylum-seekers-violence-a391b4513c41fe4de3806b28ee0c1740

    The UK SoS comes out and promises every use of the law they can including travel bans.

    UK Secretary of State Yvette Cooper says protestors will “Pay the price — imprisonment, travel bans, and more”
    With video

    https://x.com/WallStreetApes/status/1820165006677438973

    1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   10 months ago

      The police are attacking and shutting down the "far right" protests but are leaving the migrant counter protestors alone as they March with swords and machetes.

      https://x.com/iamyesyouareno/status/1820510369879564797

      Police are even going into peoples homes to arrest people who merely support the protests.

      https://x.com/kylenabecker/status/1820489064363225283

      1. DesigNate   10 months ago

        If they didn’t want to be arrested, they shouldn’t have supported racist xenophobic right-wingers on X!!1!1!1!!!!1!

      2. chemjeff radical individualist   10 months ago

        More Jesse fact checking!

        The police are attacking and shutting down the “far right” protests but are leaving the migrant counter protestors alone as they March with swords and machetes.

        https://x.com/iamyesyouareno/status/1820510369879564797

        The video shows a very brief clip of some people standing around, one of whom seems to be holding a bladed weapon (maybe sheathed, I can't really tell from the video). We have no idea from that clip if that is even legal, or if it is being "tolerated" by the police or if the police simply hasn't yet arrested that person (if it is in fact not legal in Britain to walk around with such a thing). Furthermore it's one guy, not a whole mob of people carrying "swords and machetes". Finally, how does Jesse know that this is a "migrant mob"? Because they have dark skin? Hmm sounds kinda racist to me. Once again Jesse grossly distorts the truth.

      3. chemjeff radical individualist   10 months ago

        Police are even going into peoples homes to arrest people who merely support the protests.

        https://x.com/kylenabecker/status/1820489064363225283

        Yeah that's wrong, but Britain has much weaker free speech protections than the US.

    2. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   10 months ago

      Meanwhile the PM is going on television threatening total use of government the people are protesting.

      Keir Starmer
      @Keir_Starmer
      This is not protest, it is pure violence.

      We will have a standing army of public duty officers.

      We will ramp up criminal justice.

      We will apply criminal law online as well as offline.

      We will not tolerate attacks on mosques or on Muslim communities.
      With video.

      https://x.com/Keir_Starmer/status/1820481491874263414

      Notice the call out of only protecting Muslims, a common theme in his statements. Not the people. Not the citizens. But his preferred class.

      This is what jeffsarc was defending on Sunday.

      1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug - Jan 6 = 9/11 (same motive)   10 months ago

        Everyone should know by now that the Sons of Allah are a protected class. When they kill/terrorize/rape it has NOTHING to do with the peaceful nature of Islam.

        #FatwaOnYourAss

        1. Bertram Guilfoyle   10 months ago

          "same motive"

          1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   10 months ago

            turd lies; it's what turd does.

        2. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   10 months ago

          turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
          If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
          turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

        3. DesigNate   10 months ago

          #FatwaOnYourAss

          That was clever, I’ll give you that much.

      2. JohnZ   10 months ago

        How soon before someone smuggles fire arms and ammo into Britain? Curr Stammer's remarks are not likely to be appreciated by the white British populace.

      3. Moonrocks   10 months ago

        Not even all immigrants or ethnic minorities? Only the Muslim ones?

        1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   10 months ago

          It has been very consistent rhetoric.

      4. chemjeff radical individualist   10 months ago

        Jesse, the far-right mobs are specifically targeting Muslims and mosques.

        https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cp3ddykeenlo

    3. Idaho-Bob   10 months ago

      I bet those subjects wish they had a gun or three. Between the tyranny of government and the hordes of muslims going from place-to-place beating on citizens, they are truly fucked.

      1. R Mac   10 months ago

        Yeah, what European governments are doing to their native populations is putting a big damper on any attempts at gun control here.

    4. Red Rocks White Privilege   10 months ago

      Western regimes will only tolerate left-wing protests, because "liberating tolerance, then, is intoleration of movements from the right, and toleration of movements from the left," as their godfather Herbert Marcuse stated.

      If they're already threatening to throw you in jail for a decade for protesting their policies of globalist anti-western self-loathing, what's the motivation to dial it back at that point? Might as well go off and take as many of them down as possible before they do the same to you.

    5. Medulla Oblongata   10 months ago

      https://www.spiked-online.com/2024/08/05/the-grotesque-rise-of-white-identity-politics/

      The multicultural state’s treatment of citizens as members of ethno-religious blocs, to be tiptoed around and addressed only through ‘community leaders’, has led some minority Brits not to integrate into a shared whole, but rather to hunker down in group identity and communal grievance. The consequences of this have been writ large in everything from the now-memoryholed Hindu-Muslim unrest in Leicester in 2022 to the riots in Harehills in Leeds last month, apparently sparked by social services trying to take some Roma kids into care.

      This has gone hand-in-hand with so-called two-tier policing – the authorities’ tendency to tread more lightly on crime and disorder when doing so might help to ease what are euphemistically called ‘community tensions’. At Harehills, police retreated, as a bus was still ablaze. Keir Starmer then made a perfunctory statement. By contrast, when out-of-towners showed up in Southport last Tuesday to throw bricks at a mosque, police (rightly) stood their ground and Starmer addressed the nation, calling for the roll-out of more surveillance technology and even hinting at a social-media crackdown.

      The current unrest is not limited to the white rioters, either. In Bolton, Stoke-on-Trent and elsewhere gangs of young British Muslims, chanting ‘Allahu Akbar’, have been showing up, clashing with both protesters and police. The BBC has highlighted a video, shared on social media, in which a police liaison officer appears to tell a group outside a mosque: ‘If there’s any weapons, get rid of them, we are not going to arrest anybody.’

      Of course, the far right remains a marginal force in British society – certainly the organised far right, which has long been able to fit into the back of a minibus.

      1. LIBtranslator   10 months ago

        "Far Right" this week means opposed to importing hordes of child-stabbers. "Far Left" means to demand that electricity be banned like it was fentanyl. Libertarian means importing peaceful, productive people, not exporting prohibitionism to wreck their native economies to please Jesus, and not banning electricity to cure imaginary Sharknados. Classical Libertarians are suddenly the grownups surrounded by hysterical tantrum-throwning whack jobs.

        1. Overt   10 months ago

          "Libertarian means importing peaceful, productive people"

          This is not libertarian. If anything, libertarian means letting people be- to move where they are invited, and to stay away from where they are prohibited by property owners. The idea that you can "import" or "export" people- even as an analogy- demonstrates yet again how far LT's brain has been rotted.

    6. Earth-based Human Skeptic   10 months ago

      Hey, not promoting the proper race is racist! As is not denigrating the undesired race.

    7. DesigNate   10 months ago

      The PM’s name sounds like an authoritarian shitweasel from 30’s Germany. Just sayin.

      1. tracerv   10 months ago

        He looks like Hannah Gatsby too.

    8. chemjeff radical individualist   10 months ago

      Jesse fact check time!

      First you have the PM promising to only defend Muslims and mosques

      He never said he would ONLY defend "Muslims and mosques". The fact of the matter is, it's Muslims and mosques which are being targeted by the far-right rioters. The Buddhist temples and Jewish synagogues aren't currently in any danger due to these riots. So Starmer saying "we will not tolerate attacks on mosques or our Muslim communities" is not the same as saying he will tolerate attacks anywhere else. It is that the Muslim communities are the ones currently under the most threat.

      UK Secretary of State Yvette Cooper says protestors will “Pay the price — imprisonment, travel bans, and more”
      With video

      Not "protestors" - the violent rioters, the ones breaking the law. That is who she said will "pay the price".

      Here is the full video (not the edited one that Jesse presented) if you want to make up your own mind.

      https://news.sky.com/video/home-secretary-yvette-cooper-those-breaking-law-will-pay-the-price-13190225

      Oh, and from Jesse's tweet that he cited:

      United Kingdom Prime Minister Keir Starmer blames the “Far right” for protesting over their county being destroyed by illegal invaders

      The parents are Rwandan immigrants, presumably legal ones since I haven't seen anyone say anything otherwise. The accused suspect is a BRITISH CITIZEN. Neither the parents nor the suspects are "illegal invaders".

      1. Medulla Oblongata   10 months ago

        " not the same as saying he will tolerate attacks anywhere else"

        But actually tolerating attacks elsewhere is the same as tolerating attacks elsewhere.

        https://www.spiked-online.com/2024/08/06/why-cant-jess-phillips-condemn-the-birmingham-mob/

        Last night, in Bordesley Green in the east of Birmingham, hundreds of British Muslim men and youths – most of them masked up, some carrying weapons – gathered near a McDonald’s. They claimed to be defending the local mosque from a rumoured far-right protest. But the protest turned out to be fake news, and I’m not entirely sure what frightening their neighbours and doing hand-brake turns around a roundabout – as some were filmed doing – had to do with protecting their elders anyway.

        Worse than that, some of these plucky defenders of their community seemed to be oddly indiscriminate in who they went after. A group of men, armed with a metal pole, chased LBC’s Fraser Knight out of the area. As soon as he arrived, says Knight, this bespectacled journalist and his crew were accused of being the EDL and told they would ‘regret’ coming to Bordesley Green.

        Sky News’s Becky Johnson was live on air when she was confronted by the thugs. One rode up on a bike and chanted ‘Free Palestine’. Another approached the camera and made gun gestures to the people at home. Later on, Sky released footage of a masked man trying to stab the tyres of their broadcast van as they left.

        Worst of all, a man was badly beaten by a group of masked youths outside of a pub, the Clumsy Swan. Punters, who had hitherto been enjoying a karaoke night, were barricaded inside. The pub was attacked, too. A car also had its windows smashed in, and there are other reports of criminal damage in the area.

        West Midlands Police have confirmed all of this in a statement, saying they intend to investigate what they euphemistically call ‘sporadic incidents of criminality’. But no arrests have yet been made and Knight is quite rightly apoplectic about the marked absence of police last night. ‘In the 40 minutes we were there, we saw perhaps two or three police cars driving past’, he says. A video shows a cop car casually sliding by the scene.

        1. Red Rocks White Privilege   10 months ago

          chemtard's barking up the misdirection tree when he tries to make this about policy.

          This is an existential fight between the globalist left and their third world hordes, and the white working class population that they despise and want to exterminate. That's why shit is popping off now.

          World War I got started by an anarchist popping the Austrian crown prince and his wife. The prince had actually been a reformer who wanted to give the Austro-Hungarian principalities more say in the empire's dealings.

          Didn't fucking matter. He got shot, and the entire continent of Europe burned so hot that Americans ended up getting torched in the conflagration, too. When tensions get high enough, policy and "ideas" go by the wayside.

        2. chemjeff radical individualist   10 months ago

          West Midlands Police have confirmed all of this in a statement, saying they intend to investigate what they euphemistically call ‘sporadic incidents of criminality’.

          There you go. They're going to investigate it. Are you disappointed that the police aren't just rounding up all the Muslims instead?

          The Spiked folks seem to think that this is evidence of "two-tiered policing". Well maybe. Or maybe it is evidence that the police currently have their hands full dealing with a large number of far-right mobs attacking and burning mosques and hotels.

          Far-right mobs: Let's riot and attack mosques and Muslims all over Britain!
          One Muslim mob in Birmingham: Let's defend our mosque and our neighbors, oh and it also got out of hand.
          Spiked: See? BOAF SIDEZZZZ!

          Sorry, but it's not the same on both sides. One side is clearly the aggressor in this case. But I don't begrudge the police for putting a lower priority emphasis on some Muslim guy slashing tires in a parking lot, than on a whole lot of violent mobs burning down mosques everywhere. Now, IF there weren't a bunch of far-right mobs rioting everywhere, and the Birmingham police tried to excuse the Muslim tire-slasher in some way, then sure the Spiked people would have a point. But that is not the current situation.

          1. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   10 months ago

            Standard Jeffy obstructionism. Ignore all recent history and what is going on anywhere else to isolate this one case and defend the idea that that most Western governments do not tolerate and even encourage leftist aggression while strongarming anyone else who steps out of line.

            Modern immigration policies have been corrupted to the point that they dilute freedom rather than expand it.

            1. chemjeff radical individualist   10 months ago

              But this crime has NOTHING TO DO with immigration policy. Once again, I repeat: The suspect is a ***BRITISH CITIZEN***. The only way you can think that this crime has something to do with "immigration policy" is if you believe in collective guilt of all dark-skinned people including foreigners for the crimes of what one person does.

              1. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   10 months ago

                C O N T E X T

                Look it up, dipshit. You want us to analyze the situation in a vacuum that you have defined. Even the rioters are smarter than you.

          2. Medulla Oblongata   10 months ago

            At 5 pm on 18 July 2024, West Yorkshire police responded to a residential street disturbance in the Gipton and Harehills ward sparked by a dispute over four children from a residential family, being taken into care by social services.[1][12][13][7] The spark has been described as a "family incident" and a "child protection matter" handled by social workers.[14][15] According to The Guardian, as police attempted to manage the situation, more people began to gather at the scene, with some residents becoming angry and filming the police, leading to increased tension and the eventual outbreak of violence.[16]

            A crowd of people began attacking a police car after witnessing an altercation between social services, the police and a local family. Footage shared on social media showed individuals using scooters, pushchairs, bikes, and bats to assault the vehicle. The police car's windows were broken, the car was overturned, and additional officers were dispatched to the area to attempt to control the situation.[citation needed] Videos and images of the riot quickly spread on platforms like X and TikTok, drawing widespread attention to the incident.[17] Cars in the area were reported to be set alight, and two First Leeds buses were attacked, one of which was set on fire.[15][16] Videos posted on social media from the riot show people speaking Romanian while overturning a police car.[18][19] iNews reported that police were 'outnumbered' and 'ran away' from riot disorder.[20] A number of locals perceived a lack of emergency personnel at the scene for most of the night.[20]

            Aftermath
            In response to the riot, the city's council has commenced an "urgent review" concerning its management of child care cases. This decision comes after discussions with members of the Gypsy Roma community, who have accused the authorities of "systemic racism and discrimination" in managing the case involving a family from their community.[27] On Friday 19 July, some members of the community held a vigil and chanted "please bring the kids back".[27] The children's parents also declared a hunger strike until their four children were returned. On 23 July, children were returned to the family.[28]

            Nine Romanian citizens were detained following the street riot on 18 July, according to Romania's Ministry of Foreign Affairs on 21 July. Of these, eight were later released.[29] Police have charged one Romanian man aged 37 with violent disorder and arson that endangered life.[30][29]

            Journalist Emilia Stankeviciute wrote that "Local contextual factors, such as economic deprivation, can quickly turn minor incidents like this into significant unrest".

            [I like that last bit the most. So very similar to: "A female psychiatrist testifying on behalf of the defendants argued that their alleged gang rape was a “means of releasing frustration and anger” stemming from their “migration experiences and socio-cultural homelessness,” according to the Hamburger Morgenpost.

      2. Medulla Oblongata   10 months ago

        https://www.spiked-online.com/2024/08/06/why-cant-jess-phillips-condemn-the-birmingham-mob/

        Of course, law-abiding British Muslims will be as appalled by the menacing of MPs, journalists and pub-goers in their name as white Brits are appalled by the hate-fuelled criminality that is currently being committed in their name. The reluctance of Starmer and Phillips to call out Islamic-sectarian thuggery says more about them than anything else. Do they hold British Muslims to a lower moral standard – as if they are childlike, semi-citizens who know not what they do?

        We do not need to draw any phoney equivalence – between the vast racist rioting across the country and the grim scenes in Brum last night – to conclude that this was another galling instance of two-tier policing. The longer this goes on, the longer Starmer will fuel online conspiracy theories that he is engaged in some war on the white majority, while letting Islamists off the hook.

        1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   10 months ago

          We know jeff holds them to lower standards even excusing their gang rapes as cultural.

  23. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   10 months ago

    Apparently sometime last year Jamie Raskin promised Congress wouldn't seat Trump even if Trump won.

    https://legalinsurrection.com/2024/08/rep-raskin-in-february-its-up-to-congress-to-disqualify-trump-is-he-wins/

    1. Idaho-Bob   10 months ago

      I just saw this video. Dude is trying to get a war started by his own admission. He thinks bodyguards will save him. 🙂

      1. Red Rocks White Privilege   10 months ago

        Raskin can yak like this because he knows he can always yeet off to Israel if his side provokes a civil war.

        1. Quo Usque Tandem   10 months ago

          I believe it is a form of persuasive speech that seeks to normalize outrageous behavior.

        2. JohnZ   10 months ago

          Indeed, he will. Then blame it all on Trump and right wing extremists.

      2. Don't look at me!   10 months ago

        Votes no longer matter.

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   10 months ago

          Actual votes are only phase 1 of the election process.

    2. Red Rocks White Privilege   10 months ago

      And he's at least self-aware enough to understand that if the Democrats tried it, it would be go time at that point.

      This is why I keep saying that a national divorce is needed. A civil war is inevitable, just like it was in Spain, because the left just won't stop escalating their spastic political theology.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   10 months ago

        Like we have discussed before, imagining a relatively peaceful divorce gets interesting. The easy (and wrong) answer is by state. I suggest some combination of counties and regions, and the likelihood that many Blue enclaves would only survive as city-states.

        And I have not given up on some sort of multi-nationality overlap of common geographic entities, kinda like how American Indian nations exist within US borders.

        1. Rockstevo   10 months ago

          This is how I envision it happening. Another George Floyd event starts the rioting again under President Harris who does nothing to stop them and in fact eggs them on. In a gun friendly state, lets say Texas the violence spreads out to the suburbs where the populace is armed and a fire fight ensues with dead on both sides. Harris of course takes the side of the rioters and attempts to nationalize the state guard, the Governor and the guard refuse so she sends in the army who when they see she wants them to fire on their own citizens, some of them refuse and a mutiny begins. Several governors have had enough and band together and secede but unlike fort Sumter they do it peacefully and petition the internationally community to intervene. Harris has no choice, facing a splintered military, a growing list of states standing against her and without a violent insurrection to bolster her case she has to let them go. I know this is a little light on details but that is the basic path I see to the splitting up of the US. You will end up with a India / Pakistan situation with the takers heading to the remaining US for all the free stuff and those who have had enough heading for the new country.

    3. Moonrocks   10 months ago

      Jamie Raskin needs to be thrown out of Congress. If they could do it to George Santos, they can do it to this asshat.

  24. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   10 months ago

    For some reason Tulsa Gabbard is on the quiet skies terror watch list.

    LaBosco shared that Gabbard is unaware she has two Explosive Detection Canine Teams, one Transportation Security Specialist (explosives), one plainclothes TSA Supervisor, and three Federal Air Marshalls on every flight she boards. LaBosco has attempted to contact Gabbard and her staff but has not received a response.

    https://uncoverdc.com/2024/08/04/fams-whistleblowers-report-tulsi-gabbard-on-quiet-skies-list

    1. Red Rocks White Privilege   10 months ago

      Cult members hate apostates even more than they do gentiles.

      Remember, most of this started because that vindictive bitch Hillary called her a "Russian asset," because anything that hurts the Dems originates in Russia these days.

      1. InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)   10 months ago

        This:

        Cult members hate apostates even more than they do gentiles.

        It’s also why they hate Trump and Musk so much.

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   10 months ago

          And Tulsi, like Musk, has committed the ultimate sin of actually joining the enemy.

  25. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   10 months ago

    Michigan SoS goes full stazi and asks citizens to report their neighbors during election season.

    https://thefederalist.com/2024/08/02/secretary-of-state-asks-michiganders-to-report-their-neighbors-for-election-misinformation/

    1. Idaho-Bob   10 months ago

      See something, say something.

      Unless it has a range finder and a rifle at a Trump rally. Then wait for it to get a few shots off.

      1. Medulla Oblongata   10 months ago

        They're still so mad that he missed.

    2. Quo Usque Tandem   10 months ago

      Looked that up, and it is definitely worthy of a ministry of truth rating; cannot find out from what is available exactly what they plan to do with this citizen informant material. If I didn't live in the woods, I would be tempted to put up a sign with some "outlandish" stuff on it [COVID came from a lab?] just to see what they would do.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   10 months ago

        I still want to put up a yard sign that looks like the typical progressive word salad, but is all subversive messaging. But my wife said no.

        1. Commenter_XY   10 months ago

          Listen to your wife. 🙂

    3. Anomalous   10 months ago

      SoS = Secretary of Stasi.

    4. JohnZ   10 months ago

      I'll say what ever the hell I want and to hell with Whitmer, Nessel and Bensen.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   10 months ago

        How do we know you are not an FBI agent?

        1. Jefferson Paul   10 months ago

          You won't know. But if he proposes any kidnappings of Dem politicians, I'd stay away.

  26. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   10 months ago

    With the world come and tranquil. Biden sets his eyes on single use utensils.

    https://legalinsurrection.com/2024/08/with-the-world-in-complete-chaos-biden-focuses-on-single-use-utensil-ban/

    1. Don't look at me!   10 months ago

      That will get him on mt. Rushmore for sure.

      1. Ersatz   10 months ago

        I’m thinking we should throw him off of Mt. Rushmore … maybe make it a ritual sacrifice. Mt. Rushmore could be out volcano … and failed presidents could be our ‘virgins’. You know - chief executives that never experienced success (or even cognition...).

    2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   10 months ago

      Be fair. In Joe's current state, utensils are a major part of his day.

    3. Super Scary   10 months ago

      "No one is coming for your sporks!"

  27. Stupid Government Tricks   10 months ago

    Apparently, when Google pays Apple $20 billion (!) dollars a year to be Apple's default search engine, that is monopolistic behavior. The famous triad of pricing --

    * If your prices undercut your competitors, that's predatory pricing.

    * If you match prices with competitors, that's collusion.

    * If you charge more than competitors, that's price gouging.

    -- apparently needs a fourth category --

    * If you pay your competitors to take your products, that's ... well, that's stupid pricing.

    Good grief.

    * It's the *default* search engine. It takes all of five seconds to change.

    * It's an entirely consensual voluntary trade. Why is it anybody else's business?

    * Who does the government think it's protecting?

    * Does the government even realize this hurts Apple and whoever else has made similar deals?

    Just another Stupid Government Trick.

    1. Red Rocks White Privilege   10 months ago

      Guess Google and Apple didn't pay their fellow Democrats enough in bribes to back off.

      1. Don't look at me!   10 months ago

        This is the real problem.

        1. Red Rocks White Privilege   10 months ago

          Even if they stepped up their game and got a ballot-stuffing operation going like Zuckerberg did in 2020, there's no guarantee the government still wouldn't go after them, like they did with that fake whistleblower who was bitching that Facebook shut down it's right-wing suppression algorithm after the election was over.

    2. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   10 months ago

      Some of the evidence was not just default but disallowing competitor software.

      The apple store has done this in the past as well if paid enough.

      1. Don't look at me!   10 months ago

        Nobody needs 23 kinds of search engines.

        1. Medulla Oblongata   10 months ago

          "Indonesia said it has banned the privacy-oriented search engine DuckDuckGo, citing concerns that it could be used to access pornography and online gambling websites"

      2. Stupid Government Tricks   10 months ago

        Doesn't excuse government minding other people's business.

        1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   10 months ago

          We also shouldn't accept market manipulations such as walling out competitors.

          1. Stupid Government Tricks   10 months ago

            Markets fix those problems by themselves. Government makes them worse.

            "Market failure" is one of the most misleading definitions in the history of government propaganda. Markets thrive on market failures. Every innovation is a new market failure, and markets fix them with further innovation.

            The only market manipulations are those caused by governments, in the form of regulated monopolies, intellectual property monopolies, expensive barriers to entry, all caused by government.

            You're a fan of intellectual property. But if you can't admit they are government-created monopolies, then you are a dishonest fan, and your failure to account for the opportunity cost is just as intellectually dishonest.

            1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   10 months ago

              You do know how much regulatory pressure on competitors and government dollars Google gets right?

              Monopolies can in fact become anti free market. Buy and kills are another huge problem.

              Not sure why you would defend anti market actions as good.

              1. Overt   10 months ago

                To the extent that Google is able to bully its competitors, it is completely at the feet of government regulation. Buy and Kill only works because the government has systematically gummed up the capital formation system so much that small companies have almost no hope but to exit by selling out to the early movers who were able to get capital pre-sarbanes-oxley and pre Frank-Dodd.

                Letting the government creep in and fix a problem they largely made will not end well. Who do you think is going to affect the breakup of this monopoly, Jesse? It ain't going to be someone who is interested in conservative speech being protected for the long run.

                1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   10 months ago

                  I dont have a government solution. I just don’t deny they are anti market capitalist practices. And no the market won’t fix it as the entity is already backed by government.

                  If I had my way they would be excluded from all government business to lose their inbred connections to the state they utilize for position.

    3. Earth-based Human Skeptic   10 months ago

      * It’s the *default* search engine. It takes all of five seconds to change.

      Why force millions of dim-witted and lazy Democrats to do something they don't want to when we have this handy leviathan?

      * It’s an entirely consensual voluntary trade. Why is it anybody else’s business?

      In a nanny state, everything is the nanny's business.

      * Who does the government think it’s protecting?

      Every snowflake, crony, and elected official that feeds at the Team Blue trough.

      * Does the government even realize this hurts Apple and whoever else has made similar deals?

      Yup, at least some do. But fascism requires the right amount of intimidation.

  28. Sarah Palin's Buttplug - Jan 6 = 9/11 (same motive)   10 months ago

    Here he is pictured from his DUI arrest where he was going 96 in a 55. He then lied to police about being deaf in an attempt to avoid his arrest

    Definitely qualified for the White House with that DUI.

    How many did Dumbya/Cheney have between them? 6-7 or so.

    1. Don't look at me!   10 months ago

      Bill Clinton and Al Gore cannot enter Canada because they admitted they smoked the devil weed.

      1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   10 months ago

        So has Kamala after locking up thousands of others who did as well.

        1. Commenter_XY   10 months ago

          That is the one that sticks in my craw. This beotch was the fucking AG, and she is doing bong hits while incarcerating young black men, exploiting their labor at slave wages....and cackling with glee about it.

          The hypocrisy is beyond thick.

    2. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   10 months ago

      turd, the TDS-addled ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
      If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
      turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

  29. Overt   10 months ago

    “”Bidenomics was, at heart, a philosophy of throwing money at programs, people, political allies, and favored constituencies,” continues Suderman. “That spending contributed directly and significantly to the rapid rise in inflation that helped fuel voter dissatisfaction with the state of affairs.””

    This is incorrect. The Fed and its monetary policy was responsible for inflation. Bidenomics was responsible for strangling productivity with mixed signals and mal-appropriation of resources.

    While money isn’t everything, it is amazing how MUCH of our national misery lies at the feet of inflationary monetary policy. The poor, and young who are increasingly disaffected from the “American Dream” are largely shat upon by inflation. Their schooling, and the ever-unreachable first house are directly driven by inflation.

    Our offshoring of jobs is a direct result of inflationary policy- companies are incentivized to spend their inflato-dollars overseas where they still retain more of their purchasing power, than domestically.

    The fed destroyed the bond market with Quantitative Easing, which means that people trying to save money (and not lose it to inflation) must risk capital in the stock market- on ever more risky stocks. Getting a decent return means investing in shit-shows like Rivian, which then get billion dollar warchests to buy up semiconductors on trucks no one is buying.

    When these risky investments fail, the immediate call is for government to save us- with more rules and regulations that further distort the market. Spending that goes through the roof.

    If you want to fix our country, you need to start with a concerted effort to stop the Fed and its disastrous policies. Until that rot is excised from our country, we will forever find ourselves drifting further and further towards authoritarian and totalitarian government.

    1. Stupid Government Tricks   10 months ago

      Look at any inflation chart over the last 200 years or more, like this one: https://economics-charts.com/chart-of-consumer-price-index-1800-2005/

      Prices held remarkably stable from 1800 until ... 1920! Inflation during wars (1812, Civil War, WW I), deflation afterwards. Then the Fed had its first chance to intervene, trying to stop the utterly normal and natural deflation, but luckily Woodrow Wilson had his stroke and everybody else was afraid to admit it, so the government did little else. Next deflation came during the Great Depression, which they did a piss poor job of reacting to, and it's been steady inflation ever since.

      The government has no business having anything to do with money or currency.

      Read "Good Money" by George Selgin, all about private coiners, 1788-1818, stepping in to mint pennies, ha'pennies, and farthings, the most inefficient coinage possible, because government stopped minting them because they cost too much. If private minters were more efficient and could make a profit then, they can do so now.

      Or read up on Scottish free banking, more reliable than English monopoly banking.

      Or how private bank notes in America before the Civil War were so reliable and accepted that when the governments (both north and south) wanted to raise revenue during the Civil War, they had to make private notes illegal to force people to accept government notes.

      Monopoly government sucks, and so does their Monopoly™ money. Just another Stupid Government Trick.

      1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug - Jan 6 = 9/11 (same motive)   10 months ago

        Prices held remarkably stable from 1800 until … 1920!

        The country was dirt-poor, there were several depressions, and 6-8 bank "panics" where depositors were wiped out.

        The free banking era was shit.

        1. Don't look at me!   10 months ago

          How could there be many depositors if the country was dirt poor?

          1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   10 months ago

            turd lies; it's what turd does.

        2. Red Rocks White Privilege   10 months ago

          LOL, please. Central banking inevitably results in currency devaluation. Free banking kept prices on goods steady for decades even in the face of those economic shocks, and where there were ramp-ups, was due to basic supply and demand laws that your side hates so much.

          Central banking is why you see that massive rocket ride on the CPI after World War II, and especially after 1965 when your ally LBJ tried to buy both guns and butter.

          1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug - Jan 6 = 9/11 (same motive)   10 months ago

            Because in your myopic view "steady prices" equate to economic nirvana. In my Greedy Capitalist Pig view - wealth creation is the goal.

            You can't have significant wealth creation without fractional reserve banking. And for that you need a central bank. Every country has figured this out. But a few straggle-ass Ron Paul types don't get it.

            1. Bertram Guilfoyle   10 months ago

              Yeah, a “Greedy Capitalist Pig” who denounces free banking and advocates a federal reserve. This type of thinking is how you turned 1k into 400k?

              Never change butplug, never change.

            2. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   10 months ago

              Your wealth creation is a figment of the inflationary policy you support lol. You want to use inflation to rob from the populace.

            3. Stupid Government Tricks   10 months ago

              Wealth has nothing to do with prices. Prices are just numbers.

              An economy based on gold currency, with population growth and no new coinage except to replace losses, would have deflation and still grow in wealth.

              If prices were wealth, Weimar Germany, Zimbabwe, and Venezuela would be the wealthiest countries in existence.

              1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug - Jan 6 = 9/11 (same motive)   10 months ago

                Wealth has nothing to do with prices. Prices are just numbers.

                That was my point.

                If you acquire a home, boat, and three cars that is wealth/worth that almost no one had 60 years ago. We are wealthier than ever by miles. All our poor people have cell phones and flat screen 56 inch televisions.

                1. Bertram Guilfoyle   10 months ago

                  Thank god for the federal reserve, right?

                2. Stupid Government Tricks   10 months ago

                  That's not what you wrote.

                  Because in your myopic view “steady prices” equate to economic nirvana. In my Greedy Capitalist Pig view – wealth creation is the goal.

                  If you follow "steady prices are bullshit" with "wealth creation is the goal", then you have just equated inflation with wealth creation.

                3. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   10 months ago

                  turd, the ass-wipe of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
                  If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
                  turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a TDS-addled lying pile of lefty shit.

                4. Red Rocks White Privilege   10 months ago

                  If you acquire a home, boat, and three cars that is wealth/worth that almost no one had 60 years ago.

                  As I said:
                  You’re like the retard who claims he’s rich because he has loans out on a $80,000 truck, a $75,000 boat, and a $100,000 RV.

                5. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   10 months ago

                  If you acquire a home, boat, and three cars that is wealth/worth that almost no one had 60 years ago

                  Those kulaks just won't quit wrecking our 5 year plans.

            4. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   10 months ago

              turd, the TDS addled ass-wipe of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
              If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
              turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

            5. Overt   10 months ago

              "You can’t have significant wealth creation without fractional reserve banking."

              Oh dear, SPB, maybe you should go back to browsing for kiddy porn, because your google search for talking points is not treating you well.

              For the record, Fractional Reserve Banking is not the same as the Fed. The Fed definitely relies on it as a tool, and the Fed and Federal Government have certainly regulated the shit out of it. But Fractional Reserve Banking has existed for far longer than the modern central banking system.

              For fucks sake- the first people to use gold certificates- the Mogul Empire- were the first to realize that they could double dip with their reserves- that is, invest their deposits such that they only had a fraction of the gold in reserve to pay depositors.

              So your argument is just a stupid distraction, which is what we have come to expect from you. We could have fractional reserve banking without central banks- and have done so since the concept of banking was invented.

              Even so, the argument is also false on its face. Of course you can have real wealth creation without fractional reserves. Wealth creation happens when you take capital, and invest it in something that generates more capital than it takes for inputs. The idea that a BANK is the only place this investment can happen is dumb as shit. Many, many people invest and build wealth without a bank's fractional lending scheme.

              I personally believe fractional reserve banks are neither good nor bad. They are a thing. And people should be allowed to invest in a bank that promises to give them a return (because they are investing on a person's behalf). Or they should be able to put their money in storage at a cost that guarantees its safety. The evil of our system is that it forces increasingly one-size-fits-all solutions on our economy, and creates exactly the moral hazards and regulatory capture that SPB and his Open Societies brethren feign to disdain.

              1. Gaear Grimsrud   10 months ago

                Funny how this got memory holed. We no longer have a fractional bank requirement:
                "Effective March 26, 2020, the Board reduced reserve requirement ratios on all net transaction accounts to zero percent, eliminating reserve requirements for all depository institutions."
                https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2023/11/29/2023-26212/reserve-requirements-of-depository-institutions#:~:text=Effective%20March%2026%2C%202020%2C%20the,requirements%20for%20all%20depository%20institutions.

              2. Stupid Government Tricks   10 months ago

                That last is how a free economy would evolve. If you want demand accounts that you can withdraw from at any time, then you have to pay some monthly fee, just as if your deposits were kept intact in a safety deposit box. If you are willing to accept potential small waits while a pool makes resources available, you can forego the fee. If you are willing to accept longer waits while your deposits are loaned out and a different pool awaits loan payments, you can earn interest.

                A free economy would allow all sorts of handy banking relationships.

                Governments hate freedom, and justify it as protecting peasants from their own stupidity.

            6. Commenter_XY   10 months ago

              SPB2, you don't know what the hell you are talking about here. You should drop this and move to something else.

              1. DesigNate   10 months ago

                He can’t, he really does think he’s smart and knowledgeable about economics.

                1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   10 months ago

                  Like, actual economics or woke feelz economics?

                  1. Jefferson Paul   10 months ago

                    The economies based on the price of spittin' tobacco and the amount of a new movie's opening weekend gross revenue.

                    So woke feelz economics it is.

            7. Red Rocks White Privilege   10 months ago

              Because in your myopic view “steady prices” equate to economic nirvana.

              That's pretty much the definition of it, you hicklib pederast. Seen the cost of new vehicles lately compared to four years ago before your ally took over?

              You can’t have significant wealth creation without fractional reserve banking.

              That's not how wealth is created. Wealth is created from a store of value. You're like the retard who claims he's rich because he has loans out on a $80,000 truck, a $75,000 boat, and a $100,000 RV.

              All you're claiming is that inflation makes everyone wealthier, when in fact it's just the opposite.

        3. Stupid Government Tricks   10 months ago

          The country turned rich overnight when the Fed was formed in 1913?

          You're an idiot disguised poorly as an idiot.

        4. Bertram Guilfoyle   10 months ago

          More sound economic analysis, from an asshat.

        5. Stupid Government Tricks   10 months ago

          The US had thousands of bank failures during the Great Depression, because banks were prohibited from networking with other banks to smooth out crop failures and other localized natural disasters. Canada had not a single bank failure in that same time, and they had branch banks.

          The Panic of 1907 is a great starting point for research into those many Panics. It was triggered by several things:

          * Rebuilding San Francisco after the 1906 earthquake and fire demanded capital.

          * Germany and Britain were in a naval arms race, paying high interest for loans.

          * The semi-annual shift of money between farms and banks for planting and harvest.

          But those same idiotic Civil War regulations which banned private notes prevented US banks from responding to this perfect storm, and the Panic was only over when banks ignored the laws banning private notes and began accepting IOUs for payments and deposits.

          It was just another set of Stupid Government Tricks.

          You are full of shit trying to blame this on private industry. Look at every single Panic before the Fed, and you find its cause and its prolongation were the direct result of previous government “fixes” for previous Panics.

          The 1920 Great Recession started out worse the the 1929 Great Depression,but because Woodrow Wilson was incapacitated and no one wanted to admit it, the government meddled very little, and the economy righted itself just fine 18 months later. Then came the 1929 Great Depression, triggered by Fed actions, and Hoover and FDR prolonged it through WW II. The economy only righted itself because President-for-life FDR had died.

          Speaking of which, FDR’s fourth term lasted all of, what, three months? because the Democrats couldn’t bear to tell the public how deathly ill he was. Woodrow Wilson, FDR, Biden — quite a track record of misleading the public.

          1. JohnZ   10 months ago

            The post war economy righted itself after the war when veterans returned and began buying new cars, homes and creating new businesses. Consumer spending on goods and services boomed.
            The notion that the war brought America out of the depression has been disproven time and again.

            1. Stupid Government Tricks   10 months ago

              Yes. But that doesn't fit the narrative of the heroic FDR leading the country out of the Depression and to victory over Germany and Japan, and how evil Hoover was for inventing most of the programs co-opted by the heroic FDR.

            2. Red Rocks White Privilege   10 months ago

              The post war economy righted itself after the war when veterans returned and began buying new cars, homes and creating new businesses. Consumer spending on goods and services boomed.
              The notion that the war brought America out of the depression has been disproven time and again.

              The two are linked. The war economy provided jobs across the board, which could have been inflationary in its own right if there hadn't been strict rationing on goods in place. The experience of the Depression also incentivized people to put aside money in bonds, savings accounts, and other long-term investment vehicles that kept additional liquidity out of the market. This helped to keep inflation down somewhat after the war, although not entirely because people were spending quite a bit of the money they had saved up.

              So no, on its own the war itself didn't help end the Depression. But it was a driving factor in it happening.

        6. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   10 months ago

          Those depressions were just corrections and lasted a lot shorter time than your government controlled market.

          They allowed a reallocation of resources instead of propping up failing industry.

          But you've always supported corporate fascism and control.

          1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug - Jan 6 = 9/11 (same motive)   10 months ago

            Shorter?

            The Long Depression was a worldwide price and economic recession, beginning in 1873 and running either through March 1879, or 1896, depending on the metrics used.[1] It was most severe in Europe and the United States, which had been experiencing strong economic growth fueled by the Second Industrial Revolution in the decade following the American Civil War. The episode was labeled the "Great Depression" at the time, and it held that designation until the Great Depression of the 1930s. Though it marked a period of general deflation and a general contraction, it did not have the severe economic retrogression of the later Great Depression

            Wikipedia

            1. Bertram Guilfoyle   10 months ago

              We know you don't read your links, but can at least read the parts you copy/paste into your comment box?

              1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   10 months ago

                Lol.

            2. LIBtranslator   10 months ago

              Wikipedia lies by omission. But if you look at the laws, every Crash, every Depression sprang from Chinese, American, or Sino-American prohibitionism worsening with China's Boycott of U.S. exports to get Uncle Sam to police the world for opium. Then the opium cartels all pointed to non-addictive cocaine in Java, Sumatra, Taiwan, Peru and Bolivia as the thing needing coercion. As in the Tariffs "versus" Income tax looter lobbies, the government said BOTH shall be decided at gunpoint, free trade be damned.

              1. Stupid Government Tricks   10 months ago

                I don't know where you copied that word salad from, but tell them you want a refund.

                Start with the last pre-Fed Panic of 1907, research its causes, and they lead back to previous Panics and the Stupid Government Tricks which "fixed" them. This goes all the way back to the Panic of 1819, which had its roots in more Stupid Government Tricks. Every single one. I spent quite a few hours trying to track them all down, and it was quite enlightening. Even Wikipedia is good enough, if you read between the lines.

                1. Jefferson Paul   10 months ago

                  That was actually one of the more comprehensible posts by LIBtranslator (Hank Phillips). Usually you can't even make out anything he's trying to say, as his brain is stuck in 1972, based on how often he talks about the '72 Libertarian platform, "girl-bulliers," Comstock Laws, etc.

                  I hadn't seen your screen name before, and was wondering if you are a regular with a new name or a newcomer to the Reason comments. The fact you weren't expecting word salad from Libtranslator tells me you're probably new.

                  You seem pretty knowledgeable about banking and aren't engaging in stupid fallacies, so I hope you stick around.

            3. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   10 months ago

              turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
              If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
              turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit who cites Wiki as a source, the asshole.

        7. Overt   10 months ago

          You are fucking crazy. By the end of the 1800s, the US was one of the largest manufacturing centers in the world- it had surpassed Great Britain in output. It wasn't dirt poor, it was one of the richest countries in the world, and becoming richer. This was despite fighting two wars in that century- one of which ended with the capitol being raised and the other resulting in massive casualties among the productive class and the systematic dismantling of one of the larger sources of output (slavery).

          The "Depressions" in the 1800s were largely political in nature. The Napoleonic wars resulted in embargoes that crippled our agricultural export markets. The government forced private purchasers to use gold and silver while backing their spending with bonds. The banking system was converted to a federal reserve system- where you were not allowed to be a bank unless you backed it with federal bonds.

          1. Stupid Government Tricks   10 months ago

            Murray Rothbard has a fascinating detailed look at the first Panic, the one of 1819. Triggered by many things, most notably more Stupid Government Tricks.

            * Cronies in charge of the Second National Bank, doing deals with family and friends, fiddling with the money supply, leaving everybody high and dry when their schemes collapsed.

            * Government chartering fraudulent banks to cronies, implying they were sound, because government wouldn't lie, would it?

            * States passed "stay" laws forbidding foreclosure until the Panic was over. Gee that sounds familiar.

            * States financing canals and roads which went broke, because they were spending Other People's Money.

            * Agricultural rebound in Europe after the end of the Napoleonic wars and not needing to buy American harvests. Then the various governments stepped in with price controls. Gee that sounds familiar. And it happened again after WW I. Government didn't learn squat.

            * Inept selling of "government" property on the frontier, including trying to make speculation illegal.

        8. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   10 months ago

          turd, the ass-wipe of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
          If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
          turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

        9. Bertram Guilfoyle   10 months ago

          The US was certainly not dirt-poor in the 19th century.

          1. LIBtranslator   10 months ago

            Then along came mechanized international prohibitionism...

            1. DesigNate   10 months ago

              And the US got richer?

    2. Red Rocks White Privilege   10 months ago

      While money isn’t everything, it is amazing how MUCH of our national misery lies at the feet of inflationary monetary policy. The poor, and young who are increasingly disaffected from the “American Dream” are largely shat upon by inflation. Their schooling, and the ever-unreachable first house are directly driven by inflation.

      And it's the inevitable result of reality setting in on 15 years of money printing to try and hide systemic structural weaknesses in the American economy. The pathetic part about all this is that the regime is going all-in on trying to provoke a conflict with Russia and even China, without apparently realizing that the people they need to sign up to be cannon fodder are no longer interested in defending this corrupt, decadent, deviant society from itself.

      This Great Power Competition shit being pushed in the DoD is going to come back to bite these people in the ass like they wouldn't believe. The US is like the Ottoman Empire right before World War I--a dying imperial construct that can still put up a fight against near-peer adversaries and certainly push around low-grade opponents at a whim, but will inevitably fall apart from internal resistance aided by foreign powers if a war actually does kick off.

      1. Overt   10 months ago

        Contractions in the economy are not bad- they represent wholesale adaptation to changing conditions- whether it is a global slowdown in shipping, or a major set of weather events, or a new disruptive technology. These retractions happen all the time- even during the boom-times of the 80s and 90s we saw massive failures of multiple industries. The computer storage industry is a great case study (and in fact the excellent book, The Innovator’s Dilemma, uses it as a case study) of how disruption but constant workers out of jobs, and saw the destruction of massive amounts of capital.

        The great lie is when certain “popular” industries face disruption, and then the economic contraction gets dubbed a national recession- even when many other industries are just fine. This is when the statists jump in to declare this a national emergency, and a contraction in specific industries is suddenly socialized as government spending props up losers and winners’ expense.

        This is not to say that major economic slowdowns don't happen. Of course, some industries that represent a large part of an economy can be disrupted and that can have a ripple effect that affects many, if not most parties to that economy. But the best thing to do is to let capital reallocate- something that cannot be done when the government controls the currency as they will always be tempted to intervene.

        For all of SPB's insistence that he loves Open Societies, the people he supports will never let bad industries fail. The people that he gives the benefit of the doubt to will always be victims of the fatal conceit that they can plan their way out of a contraction. Which is why his fake protestations about Open Societies always ring so disingenuous.

        Of course he was also banned from this board for posting kiddy porn links, and he denies it at every opportunity. This is the way with lefties- project and obfuscate at every opportunity in an attempt to avoid people noticing what a creep you are.

        1. Stupid Government Tricks   10 months ago

          And every single intervention triggers new “market failures” requiring more government intervention.

          ETA -- wait, let me rephrase that.

          Every single Stupid Government Trick triggers new "market failures" requiring more Stupid Government Tricks.

        2. Red Rocks White Privilege   10 months ago

          For all of SPB’s insistence that he loves Open Societies, the people he supports will never let bad industries fail. The people that he gives the benefit of the doubt to will always be victims of the fatal conceit that they can plan their way out of a contraction. Which is why his fake protestations about Open Societies always ring so disingenuous.

          Just look at the Big 3 automakers right now. These guys got bailed out after the Great Recession kicked off, and we were warned it would be economic armageddon if it didn't happen.

          Fast forward to 2024, and these same companies are cutting their own throat by refusing to lower prices on their new vehicles, especially trucks, down to levels that people can currently afford. Go to an average Big 3 lot these days and it's stuffed to the brim with vehicles that haven't moved in weeks, even months. If you want a new F-150 XLT, for instance, you're going to have to shell out about $50K. The average working person can't afford that. Shit, I paid half that when I bought mine brand-new in 2019.

          But I guarantee they're acting like this because they know they can afford to act like retards and be self-indulgent on their pricing. The Democrats will always bail them out, and the Republicans won't fight it because the unions and the media will screech.

      2. Gaear Grimsrud   10 months ago

        " The pathetic part about all this is that the regime is going all-in on trying to provoke a conflict with Russia and even China, without apparently realizing that the people they need to sign up to be cannon fodder are no longer interested in defending this corrupt, decadent, deviant society from itself."
        I made this point about the UK yesterday. They're creating a civil war while simultaneously provoking Russia and maybe China into what could easily become WW3. Who do they think will fight all of these wars? Ukraine is a meatgrinder war of attrition and they can't drag enough 60 year olds off the street to sacrifice to the neocons. Our all volunteer military can't fulfill enlistment goals even without a boots on the ground war. Will conscription be popular or even possible in the US? A lot of military families have been demoralized by Afghanistan and the woke DEI military. Will the tranny regiments be enough? If nobody is willing to fight these wars on the ground the only alternative is nuclear holocaust.

        1. Red Rocks White Privilege   10 months ago

          A lot of military families have been demoralized by Afghanistan and the woke DEI military. Will the tranny regiments be enough? If nobody is willing to fight these wars on the ground the only alternative is nuclear holocaust.

          Here's the thing--and I say this because Raskin openly stated that his side is willing to start a civil war to keep Trump out of office, which means his Democrat colleagues are saying the same thing to each other behind closed doors--if something did click off, how many of those families will end up illicitly or even openly supporting the enemy, because it might result in their political adversaries getting clapped? Or even their states/counties seceding from the US and telling Russia or China, "Help yourself, just leave us alone and stay out of our territory, or else all those ICBMs in the plains are going to be launched"?

  30. MWAocdoc   10 months ago

    "Let's hope our economy is durable enough to withstand the policies of whichever bozo takes office."

    Why? Are Americans incapable of learning the lessons that government economic mistakes should be teaching them? Shouldn't the failure of America to vote out BOTH of the bozos in office be painful? Shouldn't we hope for a painful crash BEFORE there's nothing left to start over again with?

    1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   10 months ago

      Real MMT has never been tried!

    2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   10 months ago

      Giant Meteor 2024!

  31. Sarah Palin's Buttplug - Jan 6 = 9/11 (same motive)   10 months ago

    WTF, Peanuts?

    The "global stock meltdown" Reason was touting yesterday sure as fuck didn't last long. Stocks are screaming higher this morning.

    #BidenomicsWorking

    1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   10 months ago

      For the last 3 days you've been pretending you don't support Biden. Already back to it huh. Lol.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   10 months ago

        I have been amused by the New Butt Plug, who now snipes at Harris and Democrats. Could this be Dr. Jill?

    2. creech   10 months ago

      Perhaps because the Waltz pick makes a Trump victory more likely?
      And we all know how billionaire Wall Streeters love them some Trump economics?

      1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug - Jan 6 = 9/11 (same motive)   10 months ago

        Yeah, I heard stupid progs say for years "You know all those greedy Wall St bankers are Republicans".

        Then I looked at how Lloyd Blankfien, Rubin, Dimon, Corzine etc all supported Democrats.

        1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   10 months ago

          It has always been easier to buy off democrats to protect and fund your entity.

          Those names are being some of the biggest revolving doors in government.

        2. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   10 months ago

          turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
          If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
          turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a TDS-addled lying pile of lefty shit.

        3. Mother's Lament   10 months ago

          Lloyd Blankfien, Rubin, Dimon, Corzine etc all supported Democrats.

          Of course they support their biggest insider trading tipsters clients. Everyone should model their portfolios on what Nancy Pelosi does.

    3. Don't look at me!   10 months ago

      Stocks are screaming higher this morning.

      Four steps backwards followed by one step forward is not “screaming “.

      1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   10 months ago

        Well, turd lies; it's what turd does. If turd posts it, it's a lie.

      2. Overt   10 months ago

        This! The Nasdaq is off 12% since last month, but SPB thinks it is screaming. What a fucking shill. How is it possible that he can look at himself in the mirror each day?

        1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   10 months ago

          turd's used to lying; it doesn't bother him in the least. In fact, it's becoming obvious that as Misek is too stupid to understand the concepts of "evidence" or "relevance", the concept of "honesty" is simply beyond turd's ken.

    4. LIBtranslator   10 months ago

      Every major Panic, Crash, Depression in history was caused or worsened by fanatical prohibitionism.

  32. MWAocdoc   10 months ago

    UK Riots – The prime minister this week put social media platforms on notice, warning them that the incitement “clearly whipped [up] online” was also a crime — and one happening on their “premises”.

    I can think of nothing more likely to throw fuel on the fire than officially censoring TikTok and X in the UK right now. Right now the “far right” is rioting over the Labor government’s perceived immigration policy. What do they think will happen if they add banning far-right opinions on immigration to the mix? Do they really think that that will prevent far-right splinter groups from spontaneously organizing violent actions? Will they perhaps rethink their strategy when the riots redouble, with the added targets of Labor officials? No wonder the UK is crashing faster than the rest of Europe.

    1. Medulla Oblongata   10 months ago

      https://www.spiked-online.com/2024/08/06/why-cant-jess-phillips-condemn-the-birmingham-mob/

      What does a thug have to do to be called out by this Labour government? While Keir Starmer and Co have – quite rightly – found the minerals to denounce the racist carnage that has blighted our streets this past week, they seem to be striking a very different tone when it isn’t hard-right headcases doing the menacing.

      Last night, in Bordesley Green in the east of Birmingham, hundreds of British Muslim men and youths – most of them masked up, some carrying weapons – gathered near a McDonald’s. They claimed to be defending the local mosque from a rumoured far-right protest. But the protest turned out to be fake news, and I’m not entirely sure what frightening their neighbours and doing hand-brake turns around a roundabout – as some were filmed doing – had to do with protecting their elders anyway.

      Worse than that, some of these plucky defenders of their community seemed to be oddly indiscriminate in who they went after. A group of men, armed with a metal pole, chased LBC’s Fraser Knight out of the area. As soon as he arrived, says Knight, this bespectacled journalist and his crew were accused of being the EDL and told they would ‘regret’ coming to Bordesley Green.

      Sky News’s Becky Johnson was live on air when she was confronted by the thugs. One rode up on a bike and chanted ‘Free Palestine’. Another approached the camera and made gun gestures to the people at home. Later on, Sky released footage of a masked man trying to stab the tyres of their broadcast van as they left.

      Worst of all, a man was badly beaten by a group of masked youths outside of a pub, the Clumsy Swan. Punters, who had hitherto been enjoying a karaoke night, were barricaded inside. The pub was attacked, too. A car also had its windows smashed in, and there are other reports of criminal damage in the area.

    2. Medulla Oblongata   10 months ago

      continued:

      If Starmer were sincere, you’d expect a robust response to the goings-on in Birmingham. Surely, it would go some way to dispelling accusations of the police being crippled by political correctness. Instead, we’ve had stony silence. Meanwhile, Labour frontbencher Jess Phillips, in whose constituency Bordesley Green sits, took to X last night to downplay the disorder:

      ‘To be clear, all day rumours have been spread that a far-right group [was] coming and it was done entirely to get Muslim people out on the street to drive this content. It is misinformation being spread to create trouble.’

      Phillips has spoken out against the ‘bullies’, but has refused to name the Islamic sectarianism that had been driving the bullying. (A cynic might suggest that wafer-thin majority is why she was hesitant to denounce the mob last night.)

      Of course, law-abiding British Muslims will be as appalled by the menacing of MPs, journalists and pub-goers in their name as white Brits are appalled by the hate-fuelled criminality that is currently being committed in their name. The reluctance of Starmer and Phillips to call out Islamic-sectarian thuggery says more about them than anything else. Do they hold British Muslims to a lower moral standard – as if they are childlike, semi-citizens who know not what they do?

      We do not need to draw any phoney equivalence – between the vast racist rioting across the country and the grim scenes in Brum last night – to conclude that this was another galling instance of two-tier policing. The longer this goes on, the longer Starmer will fuel online conspiracy theories that he is engaged in some war on the white majority, while letting Islamists off the hook.

      But of course, it will go on. Because two-tier policing is only an expression of an inbuilt ethno-religious paternalism within our governing class. They are so petrified of provoking ‘community tensions’, or being accused by some woke idiot of racism, that they routinely struggle to condemn even criminality when it happens to be committed by an ethnic-minority. It’s as if they consider, say, British Muslims to be a group apart.

    3. Medulla Oblongata   10 months ago

      continued:

      On top of two-tier policing, we have two-tier feminism – in which a Tory MP’s fleeting hand on a journalist’s knee is treated far more seriously than the industrial-scale rape committed by grooming gangs. We also now have two-tier concern for journalists – in which some hard-right protesters heckling Owen Jones and Anna Soubry, as happened in the wake of Brexit, is taken far more seriously than balaclava-clad, tooled-up goons chasing around Sky and LBC journalists.

      This is moral cowardice – not to mention a profoundly patronising view of minorities – masquerading as ‘sensitivity’.

      1. MK Ultra   10 months ago

        To get a couple of my idiot Irish cousins to stop frothing at the mouth upon seeing a Union Jack is an impressive feat.

  33. Bill Dalasio   10 months ago

    This terrible gentle-parenting influencer...

    Prior to this, I had no knowledge that "gentle parenting" was even a thing. And it sounds really, really, really stupid.

    1. LIBtranslator   10 months ago

      Not long ago God's Tough Love encouraged beating kids with sticks.

      1. Ersatz   10 months ago

        Yeah... must have been rough!

        ...Right. I had to get up in the morning at ten o’clock at night half an hour before I went to bed, drink a cup of sulphuric acid, work twenty-nine hours a day down mill, and pay mill owner for permission to come to work, and when we got home, our Dad and our mother would kill us and dance about on our graves singing Hallelujah.

      2. Bill Dalasio   10 months ago

        Because the only form of adult correction is beating kids with sticks.

      3. Gaear Grimsrud   10 months ago

        Girl bulliers with sticks huh Hank?

  34. sarcasmic   10 months ago

    Tim Walz picked as Kamala Harris' VP in the 2024 presidential election

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13710525/tim-walz-named-kamala-harris-running-mate-pick.html

    1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug - Jan 6 = 9/11 (same motive)   10 months ago

      The important thing is - how many chicks has he felt up?

      1. Don't look at me!   10 months ago

        Is he still a lying drunk driver?

      2. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   10 months ago

        turd, the ass-wipe of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
        If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
        turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a TDS-addled lying pile of lefty shit.

    2. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   10 months ago

      Couldn’t bother to read the roundup or other comments?

      Or is everyone fake muted?

      1. Medulla Oblongata   10 months ago

        That's "fake deaf".

  35. Bertram Guilfoyle   10 months ago

    "Robert F. Kennedy Jr. admitted to dumping a bear carcass in Central Park back in 2014 as a joke"

    Glad to see that life imitates art chemjeff's bullshit. Although 2014 predates covid, so RFK may have a plagiarism case against jeff...

    1. Mother's Lament   10 months ago

      I like him more and more all the time.

      1. Ersatz   10 months ago

        kind of like saying "hold my beer" to Kristi Noem

  36. Use the Schwartz   10 months ago

    It looks to me that Just Mindy has Fetal Alcohol Syndrome, then she speaks and I’m certain...

    1. Use the Schwartz   10 months ago

      Sorry, I was referring to "Mrs. Frazzled" I guess?

  37. JohnZ   10 months ago

    Yesterday, 8/5/24 markets around the world hiccupped and nearly crashed after the brilliant remarks from heels up Harris concerning the economy and her plans to deal with it including reducing oil production.
    Stocks plunged 1000 points yesterday as Harris laid out her economic plans to essentially destroy what's left of the nation.
    Anyone who supports that moron deserves what ever comes to them.
    Unfortunately the rest of us will suffer as well.

    1. Gaear Grimsrud   10 months ago

      Dunno. Strategy and reluctance can be a powerful force when facing the terror of mean tweets and election denial.

  38. LIBtranslator   10 months ago

    EVERY big Crash including the Panic of 1837 was caused by someone's fanatical prohibitionism. In Jackson's day, it was China expelling East India Company opium sellers, so England liquidated U.S. investment to rearm; ditto 1857. 1873 Republican Comstock laws let book-burning prohibitionists burn the mail. 1893, spoiler votes depose prohibitionist GOP, Dem income tax bill. 1907 Prohibition laws disguised as "pure food." 1911-1914 Panics from Hague opium prohibition. 1920 and 1929 Crashes, prohibition. 1931 Panic, using League of nations as Drug Police. 1987, Reagan-Bush war on South American plant leaves. 2008, Bush War on North American plant leaves... Voting Republican is voting for Crashes and Depressions.

    1. Mother's Lament   10 months ago

      “2008, Bush War on North American plant leaves”

      It’s fun how Hank always tries to gaslight us in the dumbest possible ways, even though we know that most of the pot legislation was passed in 68 by Johnson with the Democrats leading both houses.

      And then there was this:

      Joe Biden, Tough on Drugs

      Joe Biden, Tough on Crime

      1. DesigNate   10 months ago

        I feel bad for the old man. Sitting there all alone, the dementia slowly eating his brain.

        1. Gaear Grimsrud   10 months ago

          Still not as far gone as Biden.

  39. Mother's Lament   10 months ago

    I case you're wondering where Buttplug gets his financial acumen from...

    This is the Biden-Harris Administration’s handpicked Economic Advisors Chair, Jared Bernstein, struggling to understand basic economics and the consequences of uncontrolled money printing.

    No, it isn't parody.

    1. Moonrocks   10 months ago

      No, it isn’t parody.

      This is the world we live in: politics is comedy and comedy is politics.

    2. DesigNate   10 months ago

      My god.

    3. Gaear Grimsrud   10 months ago

      That one is like a 70s SNL bit. Never gets old.

    4. Earth-based Human Skeptic   10 months ago

      Holy shit snacks.

  40. Medulla Oblongata   10 months ago

    Never liked Bloomberg since his Everytown gun-grabber movement, but I'll give him credit for this. Plus it's probably doing a lot more good this way than if the government took that money as taxes.

    WSJ:

    Bloomberg to Donate $600 Million to Four Historically Black Medical Schools
    Gift by Michael Bloomberg’s philanthropic organization is latest to support the training of future doctors at HBCUs

    Bloomberg Philanthropies is making a $600 million donation to four historically Black medical schools, a gift that will more than double the endowments at three of the four institutions.

    Howard University College of Medicine in Washington, D.C.; Meharry Medical College in Nashville, Tenn.; and Morehouse School of Medicine in Atlanta will each receive a gift of $175 million, Bloomberg Philanthropies said Tuesday. Charles R. Drew University of Medicine & Science in Los Angeles will receive $75 million.

    1. Gaear Grimsrud   10 months ago

      What if they spend it all on super sized sodas and Newports?

    2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   10 months ago

      What is black medicine?

  41. TJJ2000   10 months ago

    "We cannot win if people think we're headed into a recession,"
    Oh you underestimate how bloody stupid people are.
    Note the repeating [D]-trifecta for 12-F'En years of the Great Depression.

  42. Medulla Oblongata   10 months ago

    Here's a black woman killed who will *not* be the subject of riots protesting her death...The man responsible for her death was ordered deported during the Trump administration, but didn't show up for his hearing. He was arrested several times, too, but in sanctuary cities no one checked his status.

    ------------------------------

    An illegal immigrant with numerous run-ins with the law who was ordered deported six years ago stands accused of killing a young Virginia college student in a horrific car crash, according to a local report. Honduran national Elvis Jamir Cruz-Ferrera, 18, is charged with involuntary manslaughter in connection with the February death of Old Dominion University student Lauryn Ni’Kole Leonard, 19, according to the Virginia Pilot. The night Leonard was killed, she was driving her gray 2000 Toyota Solara on Interstate 664 in Chesapeake back to her apartment in Norfolk around 6 p.m. when Cruz-Ferrara smashed into her, causing both drivers to lose control and hit the guardrails, according to the outlet. An immigration judge had ordered Cruz-Ferrera’s deportation back in 2018, during a hearing he didn’t appear for, after he crossed the border illegally, Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) said.

    Cruz-Ferrera has an immigration hold on his case and is being held without bond. He faces up to ten years in prison. Cruz-Ferrera crossed the southern border into McAllen, Texas, in October 2016 when he was 11-years-old...Cruz-Ferrera had several run-ins with cops over traffic stops in the months leading up to the crash, according to the local outlet. However, authorities didn’t investigate his immigration status at the time...In November of last year, Cruz-Ferrera was caught driving recklessly — going 85 mph in a 60 mph zone — near where the fatal crash occurred. He was also twice cited for driving without a license. Hargrove said his sister might still be alive if Cruz-Ferrera had been deported. “I think it’s crazy,” Hargrove said. “Like, how come nobody looked into it? … She’s minding her own business and you come out of nowhere and just turned my life upside down.”

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