Want To Catch Serial Killers Faster? Listen to Sex Workers.
The cases of Joey the Player and the Long Island Serial Killer show how systemic neglect and the failure to pass an immunity bill have left violent criminals on the loose for far too long.

When I got back into sex work in New York City in 2015, I was told, "Never go to New Jersey, no matter how much money he offers you." Jose Torres, a 46-year-old known today as Joey the Player, had been luring young women with promises of a lot of money that he never paid. He would become aggressive, "often assaulting and raping" his victims, according to the U.S. Attorney's Office for the District of New Jersey. He was convicted in October 2023, and just last month, he was sentenced to 30 years in prison.
It's good news that Torres has finally been stopped—but law enforcement sure took their time.
To catch current and future serial predators targeting sex workers in New York, lawmakers should have taken up and passed an immunity bill introduced by state Sen. Luis R. Sepúlveda (D–Bronx) in 2023. The bill would have empowered victims of human trafficking and sex workers who experience or witness crimes to make a report and seek help without fear of being prosecuted for prostitution. The bill passed the Senate and Assembly Codes Committee but was never brought to the floor, even with strong bipartisan support including 48 co-sponsors in the state Assembly and 16 in the state Senate, as well as the support of Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg. It is expected that the bill will be reintroduced next session.
Sadly, it's not the first time the likes of Joey the Player have been allowed to terrorize victims. Similar stories were told as bodies started appearing in Long Island in 2011. Rex Heuermann, now known as the Long Island Serial Killer, was targeting sex workers, though for years no one seemed to be taking the case seriously. Police finally arrested and charged him with the murder of at least three women last year—13 years after Heuermann's first victim was discovered. Since then, he has been charged with two additional murders, and investigations are ongoing.
Why does it take so long for police to act on crimes committed against sex workers? For one thing, as members of a criminalized class, sex workers are terrified of being arrested even when we try to report crimes committed against us. But for those who have tried, too often law enforcement brushes them off, treating violence, sexual assault, and even murder, as an occupational hazard of sex work.
Across the country when sex workers go missing, or their bodies are found, police processing the crime scene will mark the incident as "NHI" or "No Humans Involved," deprioritizing these cases and allowing predators like Torres and Heuermann to hunt with impunity.
Instead of taking their reports to the police, where their pleas for help can fall on deaf ears, victims will often call the Sex Worker National Hotline to report a crime. The hotline played an important role in Torres' capture and conviction, connecting law enforcement to reluctant victims and providing important background and context about the attacks.
Torres' victims had tried to report his violent behavior to multiple local law enforcement offices over the years to no effect. Sex worker advocates began working with local law enforcement to investigate Torres in 2018. The same year, the Sex Worker National Hotline received a call from FBI investigator Michael Scimeca, who said he wanted to help. Initially skeptical, the organization took great pains to make sure that victims would be protected, finding an attorney to facilitate the investigation.
It took a coordinated effort of sex worker–led organizations, an attorney who understood what was at stake, over 30 exceptionally brave victims, and an unusually empathetic and driven investigator to finally arrest a flagrant and unrepentant criminal. Torres was arrested on February 14, 2020.
"[Torres] was brought to justice by sex workers who came forward and reported his violence to the FBI with the assistance of an attorney," the hotline posted on its blog after his sentencing last month.
Throughout his case, the court never once referred to the survivors as anything but sex workers, and victims were treated with dignity and respect. The court acknowledged sex work as a transaction between two consenting adults, emphasizing that consent given to exchange money for erotic services does not extend to assault and rape.
Listening to sex workers made this arrest, conviction, and sentencing possible. When sex workers are free to report crimes, it can create safer communities and bring predators like Joey the Player and the Long Island Serial Killer to justice. It is widely believed that had law enforcement taken the disappearance and deaths of sex workers in Long Island more seriously Heuermann would not have been able to kill so many young women.
By making it easier for sex workers to report crimes, laws like the immunity bill in New York will allow for criminals like Torres and Heuermann to be held accountable before they commit more attacks, creating safer communities. Lawmakers should push for the bill's approval in the next legislative session.
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Loose women for loose criminals?
Rape is still rape. Call it theft of services if you want. It's still a crime.
Call it theft of services if you want.
So... non-prosecutable misdemeanor in CA as long as it's less than $900 worth of services or no?
Well, unless it is migrant rape. Ask Jeff.
The NYS legislature was too busy virtue signalling over demonizing gun owners with Bruin response bills to GAF about victims of actual crimes.
No victim should fear prosecution
Unfortunately for victims, they are ideal candidates for arresting. They are temporarily relatively helpless and harmless, probably desperate to get their lives back on track, and not inclined to resist cops wanting to search their place.
Too many police prefer the profit of civil asset forfeiture and drug raids, and SWAT excitement is far more fun than paperwork.
Too many "good" cops prefer getting along to get along, and put the lie to being "good" by not turning in the bad eggs they work with.
When someone is a victim of a crime and asks the police for help, the first thing the police do is run the victim for warrants and search them for contraband. If they’ve got something then they are arrested, and that’s that. It’s as if the crime never happened.
That’s why sex workers, illegal immigrants and homeless people are reluctant to call the cops when something is done to them.
Criminals know this, and will purposefully prey upon these undesirables because they know they can do so with relative impunity.
Sadly there are many would call this a feature, not a bug, because the victim is part of a dehumanized class.
Maybe don't set yourself up outside the law so you fall within societal protections. You may as well argue that contract killers stiffed on their jobs should get immunity for going to the police to get their contracts fulfilled. Or perhaps come forward with your information and accept accountability for your choices, don't care.
So consensual sex is equivalent to contract killing? Which one violates the NAP?
I heard there were legal brothels somewhere.
why don't they just work there?
Libertarians want to ally with social conservatives (that are also in favor of economic interventions by the government). What do you expect?
They generally feel the same way about most vice crimes. Though based on my interactions with these knuckleheads they don't mind gambling.
Way to miss the point and deflect, is Jeff rubbing off on you. It’s the same for the contracts the people are engaging in not that they are equivalent along other unrelated dimensions. Would you prefer meth dealer demanding the cops help him get his money from a drug deal gone wrong?
Yeah this shit has been going on at least since Jack the Ripper. They Know they get away with it just like Crips and Bloods killing each other. What's another dead hooker or gangster matter more or less to the cops. The difference of course is that prostitutes in general are not violent people. The immunity statute would obviously be a good thing but these women will never be safe until prostitution is legal. And that will never happen as long as women dominate the culture. As much as they may hate men women hate each other much more.
There’s also the fact that many of us break laws that we don’t even know about. Three felonies a day and all that. And whenever you invite the cops into your life after being the victim of a crime, their first priority is to arrest you if they can. That way they don’t have to go through the trouble of doing their job. You might be doing something you don’t even know is against the law, and get yourself arrested for asking for help after being the victim of a violent crime. Or the cops might just decide they don’t like you and tell you to get fucked. I’ve seen it happen.
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Oh, but consider the perverse incentive to "find" more human trafficking. These reforms which leave a victimless crime law on the books but provide immunity to those who claim to have been victims of a real crime (or even another victimless one), I don't think make the world better. Yes, I get that there just isn't the political will to abolish one or more victimless crime laws, but it may be better to do nothing than it would be to punch a loophole that requires incriminating others.
And also, what percentage of serial killers would you find faster by this means? And what percentage of murders are by serial killers?
Well, if you told the government to stay out of the personal transactions of two consenting adults, then there would be no reprisals against the victims by the police. There would only be the violent crime and the police would (supposedly) have to get off their duff and investigate.
Legalize sex work and take the trafficking, victim blaming, and stigmatization out of it. For those that want to do it (not me), it should be a service oriented job just like any other.
take the trafficking, victim blaming, and stigmatization out of it.
Victim blaming and stigmatization are protected free speech.
Nah, whores are a blight on society and deserve all the stigmatization. You want to argue it should be legal, knock yourself out. There are loads of things that are destructive to the individual, community and society should be legal but heavily stigmatized, get rid of that and there is nothing worth saving or being a part of.
violent criminals on the loose for far too long.
Oh, there's a problem with violent criminals remaining on the loose for too long... but I don't think it's because we're "not listening to sex workers".
Kinda damning praise when your sales pitch associatively ties your profession to extreme, violent psycho/sociopathy (just like any other profession).
Across the country when sex workers go missing, or their bodies are found, police processing the crime scene will mark the incident as “NHI” or “No Humans Involved,” deprioritizing these cases and allowing predators like Torres and Heuermann to hunt with impunity.
This is probably the scummiest thing I think I’ve ever seen written at Reason.
I don’t normally go in for the whole “White privilege”/cultural appropriation narrative and issues. But you’re talking about a policy that was originally adopted (and publicly shunned) by the LAPD for handling homeless black men(‘s dead bodies) and applying it to your chosen, and as you obliviously presume to be white and female, profession.
Like trying to say Oct. 7th, 2023 was an exceptionally bad day for Israeli hookers.
This is probably the scummiest thing I think I’ve ever seen written at Reason.
OK, not as bad as "I fail to see the difference between Chris Kyle and Adam Lanza."
Certainly not the most immoral thing I've seen printed. But one of the more "Peel the skin off of some other actual victim's corpse and wear it so that people think *I'm* a victim too." statements.
Good lord, the endless simping for prostitutes on here is kind of amazing to watch.
Why does it take so long for police to act on crimes committed against sex workers?
Why does it take sex workers so long for them to stop making themselves targets for crimes against sex workers?
I mean, this is 100% avoidable. If you know someone is out there actively targeting sex workers, then maybe don't do that. I mean, this is true even in legitimate professions. There's a reason I'm not a cop. I don't want that degree of risk and danger in my career. It's why cops are retiring/relocating from blue cities in waves.
I'm not saying if you walk down a back alley that you deserve to get mugged. I'm saying that if you have half a brain in this day and age, you don't walk down back alleys.
Or turn tricks in a serial killer's hunting grounds.
Across the country when sex workers go missing, or their bodies are found, police processing the crime scene will mark the incident as "NHI" or "No Humans Involved," deprioritizing these cases and allowing predators like Torres and Heuermann to hunt with impunity.
OK, this is going to come off harsh - but stick with me for a minute.
How many times do we rail against the cops for being jerkasses towards the public? Even when we get a traffic ticket, there's a contempt for them which is often times articulated as, "My taxes pay your salary, jerk!"
So... just out of curiosity, why should cops focus even slightly on helping out hookers? Do the whores pay income tax? Is there a 1099 on file for them? Are they reporting their earnings? Are their taxes paying the cop's salary?
And if not, then why should the cops pay them any mind? Especially when their time could be better spent prioritizing helping people who are paying taxes.
Now, I'm 100% against an income tax in general. But, since I'm paying one - I think it's entirely appropriate that I get priority from the cops over someone who ISN'T paying one. Same goes with hospitals. My tennis elbow should be treated well before a bum or an illegal or a prostitute's gunshot wound. I'm paying for BOTH of us - I should get the priority.
So, do I really care when the cops ignore the plight of the hooker? Not really. I'm paying for them "To Serve and Protect." The hooker isn't.
Also, let's not forget that the lolertarian position is that police shouldn't be policing in the first place. So, why is the lolertarian hooker lamenting that the cops won't go chase their killer? Why aren't they respecting the killer's liberty in their "anything goes society" lol?
I also heard there are legal b rothels somewhere.
why don't these girls work in those places?
I can only assume it's because they WANT to be serial murdered.
Probably easier than reconciling their life decisions to themselves. They're out there tricking hoping that someone will finally ease the pain. This is likely true for trafficking victims especially.
Or, in the case of folks like ENB who do this kind of thing by choice, maybe they believe the lie that leftists tell: that risky behavior doesn't have to come with actual risks. Even though it still does.
There are legal brothels in Nevada - but only far from the big cities where most of the customers are. Second, the brothels control the prostitutes' lives. In most of the world, including Las Vegas and Reno, prostitutes are self-employed businesswomen - although operating illegally in most states of the USA, they decide their working hours, rates, and which customers they will accept. In Nevada, to be legal they must be employees, under extremely restrictive contracts that are as close to slavery as has been allowed to private enterprise since 1865.