Students in This Illinois School District Are Getting Tickets for Misbehaving
The fines, which can reach over $750, are disproportionately likely to be handed out to black students, a complaint with the Education Department alleges.

Students at an Illinois school district have been receiving tickets for misbehavior, resulting in fines of over $750, according to a complaint filed with the U.S. Department of Education this month. Further, the complaint alleges that black students in particular were singled out for this punishment—and white students who similarly broke school rules weren't issued fines as frequently.
Rockford Public Schools (RPS) serves a diverse group of nearly 30,000 students, around 30 percent of whom are black, 26 percent are white, and 31 percent are Hispanic. To handle disciplinary infractions, students are sometimes sent to school resource officers (SROs).
"Once students are referred by RPS staff to SROs, SROs frequently issue referred students municipal tickets, which can result in unaffordable fines and fees over $750, despite the existence of an Illinois state law that prohibits the imposition of monetary fines or fees as a school disciplinary consequence," the complaint reads. "If a student wishes to contest a ticket, they must miss school to attend a municipal administrative adjudication hearing where they have no right to appointed counsel."
The complaint alleges that black students are unfairly targeted for tickets, noting that when black and white students violated the same school rules, black students were more likely to be sent to SROs. Further, these tickets are only technically legal because a police officer, not a school official, is doling them out. However, even the legality of using SROs to hand out tickets is disputed.
"For instance, this current school year, nine Black students were referred to the SRO and received municipal tickets for allegedly 'trespassing,'" the complaint reads. "Although twenty-seven White RPS students also had…'trespassing' violations, not one of those students was ticketed or referred to the SRO."
Rockford Public Schools is far from the first school system in Illinois to allow SROs to ticket misbehaving students. A 2022 ProPublica investigation found that, during the school years ending in 2019, 2020, and 2021, students at Illinois public schools were issued more than 11,000 tickets.
The fines often cost families hundreds of dollars. Students who fail to pay can get sent to debt collections or face damage to their future credit scores.
"Confronted with hundreds of dollars in fines, parents often plead for extra time to pay or ask whether their children can do community service instead. They say the fines would eat up their entire paychecks and point out their children have no income," ProPublica wrote in 2022. "But in most cases, families have only two choices: admit wrongdoing and agree to pay the amount offered by a prosecutor, or fight the ticket and risk paying a much higher penalty."
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The fines, which can reach over $750, are disproportionately likely to be handed out to black students, a complaint with the Education Department alleges.
And?
Indeed.
What Chicago has been doing is clearly not working.
Try something different.
You're not punishing summa cum laude grads.
Cps has had great results. About 30% of high school graduates can read! But they sure can spout of democratic slogans!.
https://www.illinoispolicy.org/press-releases/local-1-the-rise-of-americas-most-powerful-teachers-union
The Chicago teachers union is possibly the most corrupt organization in the country.
Aren't they the ones who went to Venezuela and ranted about how great their educational system was, and how we should all be more like them?
The and is:
Further, the complaint alleges that black students in particular were singled out for this punishment—and white students who similarly broke school rules weren't issued fines as frequently.
I have no idea if that's true. I suspect it's at least misleading.
I hate to be a “This shit doesn’t add up and it’s obvious” theorist. but, “Rockford Public Schools (RPS) serves a diverse group of nearly 30,000 students, around 30 percent of whom are black, 26 percent are white, and 31 percent are Hispanic.”
Rockford, the city, is ~50% White and not exactly upper class. Unless a *massive* chunk of Rockford is going to private schools, somebody somewhere is playing with some “13% are White-adjacent, Native-American-Asian Jews” games here.
Further, “during the school years ending in 2019, 2020, and 2021, students at Illinois public schools were issued more than 11,000 tickets”… if all 11,000 tickets were handed out randomly to kids in the Rockford Public Schools in one year, it would be on par with the proportion of black students in the schools/district.
I mean, far be it from to question Liz, Emma, or Reason's "-2 to +9 is a 7-point swing" math but…
I mean, far be it from to question Liz, Emma, or Reason’s “-2 to +9 is a 7-point swing” math but…
The way I read, it Ms. Wolfe was quoting Politico:
“New polling from Fox News shows a seven-point swing in President Joe Biden’s favorability among independents: They prefer Biden by 9 points, a reversal from May, when they favored Trump by 2 points,” reports Politico.
and the -2 to +9 is a 7 point swing math is on the writer and editors at Politico, although if I had been Ms. Wolfe, I would have included a (sic) to indicate the math error was in the original piece by Politico and not my error.
EDIT:
Upon further review and reading the article at Politico, the error is on Ms Wolfe, as the Politico article reads:
“Now, new polling from Fox News shows an 11-point swing in President Joe Biden’s favorability among independents: They prefer Biden by 9 points, a reversal from May, when they favored Trump by 2 points.”
The article at Politico does show it was updated at 09:45EDT, which is after the Roundup was published this morning
and a note at the bottom of the Politico article reads:
"CORRECTION: An earlier version of this story included incorrect information about the Fox News poll."
so I believe the math error was in the article Ms Wolfe sourced.
so I believe the math error was in the article Ms Wolfe sourced.
I'm fairly certain it was Politico's error originally. Regardless, if Politico writes "Wet roads cause rain." and the League of Extraordinary Editors at Reason uncritically or pointedly reprints "Wet roads cause rain." Despite the retardation that things like Section 230 has induced in the population at large, there's a very valid conception both within the law and common culture that they also said, "Wet roads cause rain."
Especially if Politico corrects their speech and Reason doesn't correct their own.
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and the argument is that for the same offense black kids are being ticketed at a higher rate than white kids. The bigger question is what the hell are officials there doing in giving kids tickets in the first place?
""The bigger question is what the hell are officials there doing in giving kids tickets in the first place?""
This.
Stupid idea. What happens when people don't pay?
Get the fucking police out of schools. They are supposed to be a safe place.
They have fucking police now?
Complete with silver shoe buckles and funny hats.
Don't you remember that lady from Kentucky or wherever it was?
Not a safe place for the kids abused by others there but you don't give a shit about that for some reason.
School's safe?
Perhaps in theory but when has that ever been true.
Fortunately for me there was always someone else the bullies went after. That dude was never safe at school.
Safe is an interesting concept. It often requires a greater level of security. What does it take to keep a politician safe? Bodyguards with guns?
The fines...are disproportionately likely to be handed out to black students
The students whose education is being negatively impacted by the infractions are disproportionately black as well.
Now what?
Now what?
Juneteenf harder next year!
How do you conclude that? The students whose education is being negatively impacted by the infractions are presumably the entire student body. And as the article points out, they are about 1/3 black, 1/3 white and 1/3 hispanic.
The racial makeup of Rockford is ~60% white, ~20% black.
The racial makeup of IL is ~60% white, 13% black.
The racial makeup of the US is ~76% white, 13% black.
The racial makeup of Earth, and presumably The Universe, is (depending on how you break apart White, European, and Asian): ~12-13% white, 13% black.
Any group of 30% anything race/ethnicity except maybe Asian is, arguably, disproportionately that race/ethnicity. Let alone the fact that "disproportionately" isn't clearly or strictly absolute or relative or higher or lower.
Noticing a racial disparity is racist.
Funny I have been told this just this morning
LOL
School district issues students $750 ticket for every use of the n-word. Black students hardest hit.
"Once students are referred by RPS staff to SROs, SROs frequently issue referred students municipal tickets, which can result in unaffordable fines and fees over $750, despite the existence of an Illinois state law that prohibits the imposition of monetary fines or fees as a school disciplinary consequence,"
Shouldn't that be enough without having to make it a race thing?
Exactly. Skirting the law by having police in school doling out the tickets is a bigger deal than the race of the kids getting them.
Again. You defend a Capitol officer in a blind shoot against an unarmed protestor. Need the link?
"despite the existence of an Illinois state law that prohibits the imposition of monetary fines or fees as a school disciplinary consequence"
What about a criminal offense? Emma imagines innocent teens shooting spitwads at each other in the back row.
The lesson they are trying to teach is clear, "Stop acting black. Uncle Tom it up already."
Cultural knife fights
Do, pray tell, what is "acting black"?
I am trying to look for the part of the article where Emma Camp claims to have contacted Rockford Public Schools.
Surprise, surprise. The mayor and most of the city council are Democrats.
And they deserve the government the keep voting for, again and again and again...
The complaint alleges that black students are unfairly targeted for tickets, noting that when black and white students violated the same school rules, black students were more likely to be sent to SROs.
Notice the focus on the tickets, and not the behavior that results in them. How many black people are given a pass before they're finally given a ticket? How egregious is the behavior?
You should really ask these kinds of questions, Em.
Haha, jk - we all know you're ChatGPT.
black students in particular were singled out for this punishment—and white students who similarly broke school rules weren't issued fines as frequently.
I'm just going to assume that's bullshit until proof is provided. What does "similarly" mean here?
It means both black and white students were yelled at/warned by police about certain activities. It doesn't say anything about whether black students were more likely to reoffend and get more than a warning.
Reading between the lines is often very easy with news articles these days.
Simple solution: get the cops out of the schools.
This article could be a lot better if there were more details. What rules are being broken? Are white students not fined for the exact "crimes" as the black students? What is the comment from the schools? Comment from the police?
I guess this is just a write up to let us know that someone has a complaint.
Welcome to Emma Camp.
Its a Camp article and its an article for Reason - core questions like this won't be answered, it exists to support a narrative.
Reason won't publish an article unless they can claim that the problem affects a minority. I think it is in their Style Guide.
This is actually my local school system. It is somewhere near a half billion dollar racket with a long history of race grifters finding novel ways to suckle the public tit. The idea that these disparate outcomes are somehow driven by a racist white hierarchy is absurd. The people running this school district are full on DEI true believers. Black people statistically are far more likely to engage in criminal behavior than any other ethnic group. It is an indisputable fact proven by crime statistics at every jurisdictional level. Everybody who lives in the real world, including black people, knows this. If we are going to enforce laws they will inevitably be over represented. Get used to it. Stop pretending that there is some ulterior motivation here.
I'm pretty sure you can back this up with statistics. Of course the response will be lack of opportunity, systemic racism/ oppression, etc. And then write cover for it with articles such as this; a given demographic is over represented, ergo racism, prima facie.
While it probably shouldn't be, the chances of a cop giving you a ticket depends on how you react to the cop.
Be polite? You have a pretty good chance of not getting a ticket for a minor thing.
Be a jerk? Have a bad attitude? Call the cop racist? Yeah, the cop is probably going to give you a ticket.
Again, rightly or wrongly, this is reality. And again, rightly or wrongly, white parents tend to tell their kids to cooperate and be polite to police, while black parents don't.
I'm not saying there is not a learned aspect of it. But I've been hassled a lot by police, especially when I lived in Florida and drove a red Mustang convertible and had long hair and dressed like Sonny Crockett. Probably pulled over twice a month for BS reasons, like not having two hands on the wheel. But I was always polite and never got a ticket unless there was something really obvious like a broken tail light.
Yes. Be polite. An Illinois State trooper caught me doing 83 mph in a 70 zone just North of Peoria. I put both hands on the wheel and answered all his questions nicely. Yes, I was heading home from Cincinnati. Yes, I knew how fast I was going. No ticket.
Full disclosure: I can about as white as you can be.
But I was always polite and never got a ticket unless there was something really obvious like a broken tail light.
Hm...who caused the broken tail light? I seem to remember a movie scene.
rightly or wrongly, white parents tend to tell their kids to cooperate and be polite to police, while black parents don’t.
Bullshit. E.g., https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_talk_(racism_in_the_United_States)
>The fines, which can reach over $750, are disproportionately likely to be handed out to black students, a complaint with the Education Department alleges.
1. How many fines come even close to that cost? Does Camp ever say? Or is this taking the worst case scenario and trying to frame it as the average.
2. The whole concept is ridiculous - are they being handed out by cops? Is there a *real* court providing due process?
3. Maybe the black students are disproportionately breaking these norms and thus incurring more tickets. Or is it a matter of the school is majority black and thus blacks would, naturally, get the majority of tickets even for offending at the same rate as everyone else.
I’m not swayed by disproportionate impact arguments. If the thing is unjust, it is unjust regardless of the racial demographics. If the thing is just, it is just regardless of the racial impact.
If there was a law requiring police fine at least one white student for every black student that was fined, it doesn’t suddenly fix any problems here.
No, there is a third choice - take your kid out of the abusive public school.
Long term, there's a fourth choice - vote out the entire school board and keep doing that until you get a school bureaucracy that actually cares about education.
We're talking about Illinois here. If you are black, connected to a union [even historically], and or urban, there is simply no other choice but to vote Democratic. Up until the whole system goes all Venezuela and there is only one party to vote for. It's the plan,
Fake news. They don't target black kids. It's the other way now. Black kids can do what we've they want and you have to shut up because black is the new sacred cow.