A Brief, Biased History of the Culture Wars
Kliph Nesteroff's book Outrageous turns into a screed against conservatives.

Outrageous: A History of Showbiz and the Culture Wars, by Kliph Nesteroff, Abrams, 312 pages, $30
The first paragraph of the book jacket lays it out: "There is a common belief that we live in unprecedented times, that people are too sensitive today, that nobody objected to the actions of actors, comedians, and filmmakers in the past. Modern pundits would have us believe that Americans of a previous generation had tougher skin and seldom complained. But does this argument hold up to scrutiny?"
There's a good point underneath the hyperbole. People tend to believe—and pundits, politicians, and activists tend to claim—that whatever issues trouble them are worse than ever. Why? Because these things are happening now. To us. Problems in the past weren't as urgent or significant because they happened to others, and anyway things turned out OK (or if they didn't, at least those problems are over).
So Kliph Nesteroff's Outrageous has a decent premise. Alas, it also has significant flaws.
The book's subtitle is A History of Showbiz and the Culture Wars, and Nesteroff has some expertise—at least regarding the former. He previously wrote The Comedians, a lively and informative work that, admittedly, bit off more than it could chew, trying to cram the history of American comedy into a few hundred pages.
A history of public opposition to American entertainment is a more manageable subject, though still a big one. While Nesteroff starts with complaints about blackface and minstrel shows in the 1800s, most of the book deals with post–World War II controversies. And he has some fascinating stories to tell about the many attempts to cancel movies, music, TV shows, and just about anything that was new and different.
Some of these stories may be familiar. Many people know about the resistance All in the Family faced when it first aired in the 1970s, with its vulgarity and ethnic slurs; CBS stuck by it, and the sitcom went on to become one of the biggest TV shows ever. But how many people remember Bridget Loves Bernie, a sitcom that followed All in the Family for one season? Vaguely based on the 1920s Broadway blockbuster Abie's Irish Rose, it was a show about a marriage between a Jewish man and a Catholic woman. It received so much pushback—including bomb threats—that CBS canceled it, despite its high ratings.
Interesting though these tales are, the book's overall narrative is shaky. It tends to move from one anecdote to the next without sufficient transition. Outrageous often comes across as less a history of a phenomenon than a chronological data dump.
There are some lapses in the research too. For instance, Nesteroff claims Cole Porter wrote "Do It Again" (I assume he's referring to the George Gershwin tune) while attributing Porter's song "Love For Sale" to Irving Berlin. And he mistakenly asserts that David Letterman wrote an episode of the sitcom Good Times. (The episode in question features Jay Leno in a small role. Perhaps that's where the confusion arose.)
But the biggest problem is that Nesteroff has an ax to grind—one so large it ends up taking over the book and turning it into a screed.
It's true that any conservatives who claim that censorship today is worse than ever lack historical perspective. Still, that doesn't mean there's nothing worth complaining about, or that we should simply dismiss what they say. Nesteroff writes as though we should.
Nesteroff notes how the John Birch Society saw Communist conspiracies everywhere in the 1960s. Far from disappearing, he argues, their discredited philosophy has been rebranded; recent culture wars, funded by partisan foundations, have used fear tactics to fool people into supporting otherwise unpopular policies. (Funny, my Republican friends say the same thing about the left.)
According to Nesteroff (and the partisan experts he quotes), right-wing think tanks tell their talking heads in the media what to say, often gaining consensus through payment of large sums. (It's not clear what he believes the left is doing in the meantime. I guess they're just telling the truth and being ignored.) Further, under the guise of supporting free speech, right-wing plotters send "provocateurs to speak on college campuses for the purpose of incitement. When protests erupt, such objection is used as proof that the campus is opposed to free speech. Demonized in the body politic, funding is threatened—and legal action undertaken—until the campus is made hospitable to think tank interests."
Wow. A conspiracy theory almost worthy of the Birchers.
Let me suggest a different narrative. Nesteroff seems to believe the right has, if anything, gotten worse in recent decades. Worse or not, it's true that it has changed. But hasn't the left changed as well?
A few decades ago, many would say, the movement for greater civil liberties was spearheaded by the left. (Some of the most famous student protests of the '60s were centered around Berkeley's Free Speech Movement.) Courts responded with interpretations of the First Amendment guaranteeing greater freedom to express oneself. Outside the legal realm, much of the country—and much of the left—adopted a cultural ethos that it's a good thing people are allowed to say what's on their mind, even if some find it offensive or dangerous.
But over time, much of the left reversed its position, becoming suspicious of such freedom—at least for groups it opposes. Thus, the "provocateurs" Nesteroff warns of aren't just protested at colleges: They're disinvited, or shouted down, or physically attacked. Meanwhile, students are disciplined and professors fired for expressing views that, while not outside the larger social mainstream, are considered objectionable on campus.
What's more, this culture has spread into the world off campus. Newspaper editors are fired for running editorials that trouble their staff. Workers in large corporations fear that expressing unorthodox political opinions can get them cashiered. People are deplatformed on social media for questionable reasons. And, of course, there are the showbiz culture wars—the putative subject of Outrageous—where people feel they have to make public expressions of regret for something they said or did in the past, or risk not working again.
This isn't just based on anecdotes. A number of polls—for example, a recent College Pulse/Foundation for Individual Rights and Expression survey of undergraduates—show that today's young liberals are more willing than previous generations to shut down speech they find offensive. According to the American College Student Freedom, Progress and Flourishing Survey, conducted annually by researchers at North Dakota State University, about four out of five liberal or liberal-leaning students think it appropriate to snitch on a professor for stating fairly common (but "wrong") opinions on hot-button issues. It's one thing to debate or protest ideas you don't like. It's quite another to try to stop anyone from even hearing them.
When you don't listen to the other side…well, it's hard to put it better than John Stuart Mill: "He who knows only his own side of the case, knows little of that." Unfortunately, today's left seems to lean more toward Oscar Wilde's Lady Bracknell: "I dislike arguments of any kind. They are always vulgar, and often convincing."
So yes, there's good reason to be concerned about the cancellations and related issues that upset the right, even if repression was sometimes worse in the past. And if you wish to engage in serious debate, it's not enough to be satisfied with your own arguments. You've got to refute the other side, not brush them off as dishonest or evil or brainwashed.
Outrageous starts with a "Note to the Reader": "Please be aware that some of the material quoted within this book includes archaic terminology that might be considered wildly offensive by modern standards." I would hope that anyone reading this book, or any book dealing with history, already knows that people thought and spoke differently in the past. A better warning would state that Nesteroff's work may claim to be an objective look at cultural history but that lurking inside is a polemic.
Too bad. There's a lot of good material in Outrageous. With a slightly different presentation, it could have been a more useful addition to today's debate.
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So this writer believes the other guy is basically right, but hyperbolic and gets a few details wrong. Meh.
There is a difference between a culture that maintains some unchanging taboos and one that has an ever-growing list of taboos that comstantly change and are directed by a small group of elitists. The left has never had an actual love for free speech. It has only wanted the space for their speech and the power to execute its own will. This is why they pretended to care about free speech before the radicals gained power. These days the progressives essentially hold power in all the major institutions and have zero interest in entertaining any pushback to their culturally destructive goals. There's a reason we see that the right is willing to hold debates and argue ideas whereas the left stays in a bubble that doesn't challenge their views, but instead keeps them up to date with a top-down set of beliefs that align with the establishment
The first thing revolutionaries do when they win is shut down the methods they used to gain control. The most famous is gun control, but free speech and independent media are a close second.
Yup. Always exterminate the "counter-revolutionaries" first.
Counter-revolutionaries defined as fellow revolutionaries until 10 minutes ago.
Even Khomeini followed that pattern—the leftist activists were literally the first against the wall.
"There is a difference between a culture that ..."
And what would that difference be? The rest of what you said doesn't seem to have much to do with it. Taboos are essentially non-debatable and you can be punished for violating them. The non-progressive, non-radicals you seem to find less objectionable had a very long list of taboos, not just a few minor unchanging ones! Work on Sundays, alcohol, refusing to attend or tithe to the acceptable church, sex for anything other than procreation, women owning property or having the right to vote, having a darker shade of skin, drugs, gambling - just to name a few. Sorry if I don't find that preferable. Now ignore everything I said and accuse me of bofe-side-ism.
Taboos are essentially non-debatable and you can be punished for violating them.
This is false. The latter defines a taboo, the former is your made up bullshit, even more so by your own retarded examples and misconceptions of reality/history.
No bofe-side-ism is necessary. It's never been illegal for there to be discussions about women owning property or for people to broadly do business on Sundays. Quite the opposite, women can and did own property... to the points that Queens into antiquity owned entire kingdoms... your utter retardation has encroached on reality and, while niche cultures and selective trades have had either de rigueur or de facto bans on Sunday, that's definitively not a taboo. "It's OK to eat people, just not on Sunday." rather directly indicates cannibalism is not taboo.
You're turning into a sarcasmic/tony-level blathering, self-and-other-retarding mess.
If we really want to be honest...the "culture wars" have been going on for 100 years...some was indigenous to America before the large wave of immigration from southern and eastern europe but the real dynamic was by eastern European secular Jews immigrating to America. From marriage to abortion to "feminism" to even the present day transing kids..much of the culture war derived from the cosmopolitan culture of eastern europe.
Remember, it only becomes a "culture war" when the right pushes back against the left's cultural revolution and historic determinism. That's why the left always tries to deflect conservative resistance by deeming these as "dumb culture war issues" so the right doesn't push back.
And the center-right happily indulges them, of course, because they're aren't actually "conservative" in any way, they're just intent on trying to get marxism to happen less quickly.
“According to Nesteroff (and the partisan experts he quotes), right-wing think tanks tell their talking heads in the media what to say, often gaining consensus through payment of large sums.
(It’s not clear what he believes the left is doing in the meantime. I guess they’re just telling the truth and being ignored.)”
Er , what was former White House spokesman & PBS guru Bill Moyers doing when he presented a million dollar foundation check to The Nation Institute and The Columbia Journalism Review to assemble hundreds of newspapers and even more TV stations & magazines into an editorial collective to advance the Green New Deal and the UN climate policy playbook?
Duh, Moyers was speaking truth to power. Or was it speaking power to truth? Does it matter any more?
https://x.com/Klaus_Arminius/status/1804456339806007582?t=NxDurLQmDB0p27KPMBk_Ig&s=19
More than 5 million immigrants entered Europe, including Russia, last year.
More than 10 million immigrant entered America last year.
More than 1 million immigrants entered Canada last year.
More than 500 thousand immigrants entered Australia last year.
The mass immigration of the world-third into White countries is unsustainable and has dire consequences.
But a few hundred thousand Russians enter Ukraine....
That deserves a 'lol' 😉
If only the Russians had been more mostly peaceful and set up more food trucks.
Sarc would love a vodka truck.
I have a theory that Sarc has developed a mutant power. His liver now secretes its own alcohol directly into his bloodstream.
Russian Food Trucks are terrible. Especially when you go with the 'missile launcher motif' - people just don't get it. But, let's be honest, it's mostly the food.
Or put a floating aid pier in the black sea.
But it's totally not planned and on-purpose. It's just a total coinky-dink that WEF affiliated politicians suddenly decided to exceed absorption capacity in their countries by a factor of ten.
If you notice it means you're a conspiracy theorist and a racist.
I feel your pain. It must be a really miserable life for you xenophobes watching your nation that was built by a hundred million lower caste immigrants and African slaves and Chinese be invaded by another few million lower caste immigrants. That pure white culture that you pretend exists and has always existed is being watered down by all that Islam and Hinduism that arrived in the last few years and will be all gone with another few million immigrants. Pay no attention to the organized labor “buy american” exceptionalist making the world safe for democracy culture that has actually destroyed the free enterprise Bill of Rights limited government culture that actually made America great and all of us free and prosperous and whine exclusively about the blue team enemy and their open borders.
Haha. If the situation were reversed, self loathing assholes like you would bemoan the sinister dilution of noble indigenous cultures.
You need to get out of your gated community, doc. This isn’t working.
I don’t mind that you hate yourself for being white, just don’t demand that other white people do the same thing. Maybe that’s why you’re deflecting about fiscal nonsense instead of the shit that actually matters.
But don’t worry–when your beloved homosexual diversity state gets in another global conflict, good luck getting the same people you look down on to go die for you. Hope you’re ready to pick up a rifle and go die in a Ukrainian ditch for your globalist masters. Myself, I'll be sabotaging that effort to the greatest extent possible.
Are we supposed to ignore the communists in Hollywood just because the John Birch Society said there were communists in Hollywood? OK then.
Noticed this too. The Marxists openly declare their long March, but youre supposed to ignore their long March.
See, that's the danger about free speech, er, cheap fakes. You might tell everyone what the commies are doing openly (and even openly advertising). And that might make the normies pay attention, and cause trouble.
And there were communists in Hollywood.
"Were". LOL
It’s quite mind-boggling to me that you think that’s what this article is about. The writer actually says in a couple of places that it’s about the exact opposite! Where the author of the book goes wrong is to blame the conservatives for their reaction to what the progressivists actually did.
Are we supposed to ignore the communists in Hollywood just because the John Birch Society said there were communists in Hollywood? OK then.
That was basically the argument of William F. Buckley and the rest of the northeastern and upper Midwest Republican elites.
"a greater contribution to today's debate."
There is no debate today. No one listens to debates any more. Almost everyone who is concerned with real issues these days looks for arguments to support the opinions they already hold.
People who arrive at their beliefs through emotion cannot be swayed by ideas.
Fairness is a childish emotion, and the basis for both progressive and Trumpian beliefs.
That’s why debates with either descend into personal attacks and gaslighting.
They can’t debate ideas, but they sure can lie and call people names.
That 4th sentence is ironic. Lol.
Second one is weak bothsidesim.
First one we just had the case of you refusing to cite your data to bolster your argument while attacking the sources others do provide.
For the third one if you utilized more than bald assertions you would get debate, you dont do that. Everyone else you attack backs their arguments with citations.
Just ironic.
and the basis for both progressive and Trumpian beliefs
Sarcasmic is reliably both sides whenever the Democrats are caught doing something unbelievably shitty.
Cry more about how unfair Trump has been treated and how unfair the election was and how unfair everything is, just like the leftist you hate, proving my point to be correct.
If you were even remotely libertarian you would be absolutely horrified by what they’re doing to Trump, even if you hate him.
But you’re not, because you’re not. You’re a discount Stalinist who thinks political prosecutions are fucking fantastic as long as it's your team doing it.
Here they come…
I swear the only difference between Trumpians and Obamabots is the man they worship, and that one shouts racist while the other shouts TDS.
Sure, exactly the same.
When the left shouts "Racism!" they mean people who are resisting the "good" racism the left is forcing on society. So no actual racism.
When the right shouts "TDS" they mean people who have irrational reactions to anything they attribute to Trump. So actual derangement.
See? The same.
When the left shouts racism they mean to attack the person, not what the person says.
When the right shouts TDS they mean to attack the person, not what the person says.
Both are engaging in ad hominem attacks to discredit the person and by doing so they don’t have to engage in any actual debate.
Yes, they are the same.
You literally call anyone who denotes the costs of illegal immigrants as racist and xenophobic... lol.
You literally invented your own version of TDS... lol.
You literally use ad hominem attacks to ignore citations that make you look retarded... lol.
Whether sarc does that or not, I most certainly do not do it. When you paranoid xenophobes “denote the costs of illegal immigrants” I point out that you’re lying, counter your falsehoods with facts and then “denote” all the historical and cultural facts that you have to pretend out of existence in order to fabricate your lies, then wait for you to engage in the inevitable ad homs. Then and only then do I conclude that you are liars. Your turn - prove me right (again)!
Here’s you basically doing the same thing.
https://reason.com/2024/06/22/the-government-wants-to-track-your-steak/?comments=true#comment-10612876
Though I’m sure you lack the intelligence to see that in principle there’s no difference between you shouting “But Trump!!!” and “TDS!” in order to attack the person and ignore what the person says.
Just like a leftist shouting “Racist!”
You’re exactly like the people you hate, and too dumb to see it.
Poor sarc.
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Show me a racist Good ‘ol Boy and I’ll show you a red hat.
Did you just admit you're a leftist?
That link doesn’t show what you think it does…
Voters should pay close attention to what our bipolar Kleptocracy opponents are saying about each other. Remember those things on election day when you realize they have suppressed libertarian candidates and issues from the ballot.
Seems like the LP is doing a good job of suppressing itself.
... but they won't.
So skimmed it a second time. This author does the same thing the left does. The left pushing the culture isn't the war. It is when the right fights back they declare it a culture war. It is always the response, not the aggressor.
The fall of franchises like Star Wars and Doctor Who is proof enough of the culture war.
It is when the right
fights backpounces they declare it a culture war.FTFY
Although correct, when you point it out they simply accuse you of bofe-side-ism in order to ignore you. To be fair, the right took a very long time to start reacting and it was only when they started attacking immigration and abortion while ignoring free trade and failing to repeal the social welfare agenda that has been the real problem all along that it became a culture war.
https://x.com/SaysSimulation/status/1804490795975602489?t=PIPqpwd8sTEYfnTda_0MFQ&s=19
With predominantly young male immigrants, women will be the primary victims in terms of rapes & murders. We're already seeing this in the US, and are just getting started.
Single women in the US are the largest Dem voting bloc, they vote for their own rapes & murders by supporting Biden open border policies. From a male perspective this is very rational & logical. Yet, single women in the US have yet to connect the dots, or else they simply don't care about the abstract of what their votes lead to for other women irl.
French women are catching on - about a 50% increase (21% to 33%) who are figuring that maybe flooding their country with male predators from other cultures isn't such a good idea?
Will the time come when single US women also start to figure this out? What will it take?
The other interesting part is the consistent framing.
If a women has an objection to increasing the chances of rape and murder then by definition she must be "far right".
"Correct" thinking is to blame white males, while flooding the US with non-white predators.
"Single women in the US are the largest Dem voting bloc, they vote for their own rapes & murders by supporting Biden open border policies. From a male perspective this is very rational & logical. Yet, single women in the US have yet to connect the dots, or else they simply don’t care about the abstract of what their votes lead to for other women irl."
Yes, and I can't help but reframe this as What's the Matter with Berkeley? Thomas Frank accused the ignorant of Kansas of voting against their own interests. Why can't blind feminists do the same?
Oh, no... nothing racist about that statement at all. Retard
LOL, glad I triggered your dumb ass bad enough that you have to spoof me.
'Kliph Nesteroff's book Outrageous turns into a screed against conservatives.'
Just like all the Cool Kids who with their "diverse" pro-LGBTQXYZ123, socialist, green, feminist, gender fluid, and anti-racist comrades dominate media, academia, entertainment, tech, consumer commerce, and much government. I mean, how else are they gonna fight back against all the institutionalized fascism keeping them down?
Conservatives are, kind of definitionally, reactionary. And I don't mean that in any derogatory sense. They're perfectly content to leave well enough alone, maintain the status quo ante, etc.
So, they generally will not ever start any sort of front in a culture war. They only fight back when pushed hard enough. Sometimes they don't even do that, or don't do it hard enough or early enough.
The aggression in the Culture War always comes from the Left.
The left sees a world full of victims and oppressors. From their point of view the culture war is pushing back against oppressors and protecting victims.
Conservatives see a world full of threats to society. From their point of view the culture war is them pushing back against people who actively want to destroy society.
Yes, both sides.
That's a pretty fucking lame take, honestly.
Kind of reminds me of 'The Jedi are Evil!' from Anakin in Star Wars Ep. 3. And you're here, like, "well they both have a point".
Yeah if the Jedi would just lie back and think of England and let the Sith rule the Galaxy, there wouldn't be any conflict . . .
Star Wars is fiction. In the real world nobody views themselves as evil. It’s the other side that is evil. You know this because the winners write the history books, and they never say that they were the bad guys. Though the losers would disagree. The culture war is no different. When it's over the winners will write the history books and say the other side was evil.
As outside observers, can we not tell which side is in the wrong, generally? Yeah I get it, Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Mussolini, all thought they were the good guys. But looking at their actions and motivations and the results of such, can we not say that some people are wrong in some instances?
Was Japan so triggered by China or the Philippines that they were just forced to invade?
As outside observers, can we not tell which side is in the wrong, generally?
Israel or Palestine?
Yeah I get it, Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Mussolini, all thought they were the good guys.
That's my point.
But looking at their actions and motivations and the results of such, can we not say that some people are wrong in some instances?
Had the US lost the war, don't you think Dresden and Hiroshima would be examples of evil atrocities in the history books?
Which one attacked and murdered civilians unprovoked to start the current conflict?
If Hamas laid down their arms, the conflict would cease to exist.
If Israel laid down their arms, Israel would cease to exist.
Easy fucking question. Next.
Easy fucking question as long as you don't do any research at all into the history of the conflict which has been going on for nearly three quarters of a century, and instead look at the Hamas attack as something that happened out of the blue.
Would that be the history of the seven offers of statehood (all rejected by the Pestinians)? Or the Isrealis numerous attempts at peace, which involved ceasing land and withdrawing from Gaza? Maybe you mean Hamas' stated intent to wipe out Isreal?
There is more to it than that.
Can you provide your sources sarc?
But you're not a Leftist, just a mindless parrot of all their talking points and defenses of their actions and abuses.
Oh cute, another Jesse Jr.
You're too concerned with moral equivalence to recognize the difference. The terrorists are evil. Period.
Unrelated: I saw a study recently that claimed that people who eat decent bacon are less likely to blow themselves up, when compared to people who don't.
Do you think that if Hamas gave up, Israel would still eradicate all of the Gazans?
Do you think that if Israel gave up, Hamas would still eradicate Israeli Jews?
That's how you know who the good guys are. If you can't tell the difference, you're lost.
I never said who the good guys are.
Personally I don’t think there are any good guys in that tragic situation.
Palestinians have been shit on for over half a century. They don’t have a state. So they resort to terrorism. Meaning both sides have legitimate gripes and see themselves as the good guys.
Which was my original point.
They’ve been offered a state multiple times over that time span and continue to support asshole terrorist who commit unspeakable atrocities and break ceasefires.
Unfortunately, they won’t have a decent, non-genocidal government until they forcibly remove the asshole terrorist.
Israel would be morally justified in carpet bombing the entirety of the Gaza Strip and also levelling the hotel in Qatar where the Hamas leader is staying.
I'm not saying that they SHOULD do those things, but I wouldn't condemn them for it. That's how so far from 'BOTH SIDES!' this conflict is.
Is the drunk really equivocating Israel and the fake-estinians?
His retarded centrism always leads him back to the left.
And, BTW, I don't think the Sith view themselves as evil, either. But, they are.
Then why do they call it "the dark side"?
Do the Sith consider it the Dark Side or just the full potential of the Force? I think it's the Jedi who call it the Dark Side.
But, we're getting into 'Bears in Trunks' analogy territory.
I seem to recall a rather long scene where Luke was implored to join “The Dark Side.” Lost his hand over it.
This is correct, the Sith do acknowledge that it is the Dark Side. They just see it as power that the Jedi are to weak and cowardly to use.
The Sith deal less in morality and more in a might makes right attitude. They may pay lip service to good and evil in their early days or to recruit, but it always comes back to power as the Dark Side corrupts them.
Anyone can read two Mein Kampf translations and almost all of the Hitler speeches. Their essence was that Jesus and Hitler stood shoulder-to-shoulder against the foreign, selfish Jewish Shadow-Empire of pornographers, molesters and half-breed practitioners of miscegenation and HALTED their destruction of Christian civilization and values. Since Bert Hoover the GOP has-been indistinguishable from Christian National Socialism. The trend worsened after the fusion with George Wallace American Party racial collectivists and burners of books and Beatles albums.
Bullgirliers grabber pussies comstock 1972 platform GOPeeeeee!
lol, sure they did lil buddy.
Holy shit. Sarc, the number one victim, has admitted twice in this thread to being on the left.
Conservatives are still basking in their victory over Roe v. Wade. It took them decades to win that battle, during which time they were anything but content to "leave well enough alone and maintain the status quo".
Assuming that folk on the Left are fundamentally different from those on the Right is a mistake. We all share the same DNA.
What exactly did they win? Aren't women who want abortions still getting them in almost all cases? All that happened is that abortion became somewhat less convenient in a few places. There's still no sign that a ban on abortion is ever going to happen.
More over, the voters have told the GOP that they aren’t interested in a complete ban when they gave them the finger in the midterms after a handful kept floating the idea.
Conservatives are still basking in their victory over Roe v. Wade."
Go on, Shrike, tell this libertarian forum why divesting an unconstitutional federal power back to the states is a bad thing, and how Dobbs v. Jackson banned abortion.
Fucking retard.
To the left Dobbs is the new Citizens United. They'll shriek and moan and energize the troops and pack the court. Problem is not one in a hundred has any idea what these cases actually have changed. They've successfully used Dobbs to empower the Democrat party even as not one in a thousand women will even be inconvenienced.
Altruist collectivists are difficult to tell apart. They have to rely on pressure-groupthink injections of hateful and moronic beliefs. Currently the one amalgam seeks to re-enslave women and inbreed for pallor, plus a preference for Victory gin and cigarettes to the exclusion of all else. The other crust of flotsam--with equal religious fervor and incompetence at physics and math--swears we must reverse the Industrial Revolution because media imams prophesy Climate Sharknados if "we" don't.
Currently the one amalgam seeks to re-enslave women and inbreed for pallor
Only one of the current political parties advocated for slavery, opposed universal suffrage and filibustered the civil rights act. Want to guess which one, you old retard?
I’ll give you a hint, it’s the one that thinks men make the best women, and give men awards for being the best women.
Was that Hank? He needs medication.
"So Kliph Nesteroff's Outrageous has a decent premise. "
No it doesn't.
Speaking of culture wars - police are looking for vandals across the nation who keep destroying pagan rainbow sex cult symbols.
Presumably to give them a medal, I hope.
It's happening all across the nation. Take the hint, LGBT pedos - America is done with you.
ATF here is channeling Hitler's 30JAN1941 speech: "We will move
on, even with our mistakes. And if we make as many mistakes this year as we did last year, then I will thank my Lord God on my knees at the end of the year. And if our opponents do as many clever things as they did last year, then I can likewise be content." Superstitious racial collectivism clearly demands that any proposal for change in its dogma be ruled out of order. Just look at the GOP platform committee resolution and see.
No, it's really just about the creepy weirdo rainbow sex cult that has a literal hard-on for children (especially boys), and how normal Americans are absolutely sick of them and how every single day has become a "holiday" or "day of visibility" for them.
Tolerance was pushed too far. And now Morality is pushing back.
They should have never come for the children. Their "pride" flag has become a Mark of Cain.
So a Hitler speech translated from German is more articulate than anything you've written in the last 40 years?
Like other recent Reason articles tossing a sop to the looter fringe, this one can be reduced to a single sad sound: WAAAH!
Rubber baby buggy bumpers.
A group of people existed with a common value set.
One day someone rose up and said "I don't like this and I don’t think you should be allowed to live how you want."
This person slowly convinced a minority of people to agitate which caused them to have outsized influence with policy makers and trend-setters (squeaky wheel).
At first, this was good as the practices they wanted to end were explicit attempts to control or devalue certain people for doing nothing more than exexisting.
The pushback came when they started to conflate criticism of their methods with criticism of their goals (which many people began to come around to).
As they "won" they also lost purpose... but also realized this social constructivist power they held. They started to create ideologies to justify why they should get to wield this power claiming it was identical to the amalgamation of free choices of all the people in their society.
Once some people realized what was actually happening... brainwashing (in fact... this is what it was called by some of the first people to do it in history) they said "Man... this is evil!"
These agitators who no longer had just causes to fight for began to besmirch those who didn't want to be forced into a world they would not have freely chosen, nor one that would likely come about through the amalgamation of people's free choices.
The people being called bigots got fed up and stopped being nice. They said, "Fine... we will play this game, too." When they finally stood up and didn't take to bullying anymore the agitators blamed them for starting the culture war.
That is how the culture war started... the left went too far and people started to call them on it.
Save money and don't buy stupid books.
If you want a much better book that covers this type of topic, I'd recommend both "The Madness of Crowds" and "The War on the West" by Douglas Murray.
Sounds like typical prog crap-no particular point, just whine about things you don’t like, be sure to blame Trump and/or republicans, then sell it as a book
The technical term for the methodology used in this book is 'gaslighting'.