Presidential Debates Should Be More Frequent, and Tougher on Candidates
The presidency is a powerful position, and the job application should be hard on hopefuls.

The presidency is powerful—entirely too powerful. Through mission creep, popular acclaim, and abandonment of responsibility by the legislative branch, the nation's chief executive has gained near-unilateral authority to wage war and is rapidly acquiring similarly monarchical say over domestic policy. But the office is still elected. The American people are entitled to job interviews with hopeful candidates. Unfortunately, presidential "debates" barely fill that role, least of all the choreographed kabuki meet-ups between Joe Biden and Donald Trump scheduled for this summer.
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Rule-Bound Meetups
"Trump feeds off the crowd, they give him life," an anonymous Biden adviser told Politico about the exclusion of audiences from the events. "We wanted to take that away."
Biden's people are afraid that speaking in front of living, breathing humans plays to the presumed Republican candidate's strengths (and, conversely, to Biden's weaknesses), so they want it off the table. But that's only one constraint placed on the gatherings planned for June 27 and September 10, specified by the Biden campaign and agreed to by Trump's camp. The debates will bypass the bipartisan Commission on Presidential Debates and be hosted by CNN (June) and ABC News (September). They'll exclude other presidential candidates. And the meetups will follow kindergarten rules, with the participants allowed to speak only in turn while the other candidate's microphone is off.
This year's strange, rule-bound "debates" are the inevitable culmination of a long process of making the meetups as easy as possible for Democratic and Republican standard-bearers. The Commission on Presidential Debates, which is so aggrieved to have been sidelined, was itself created by the major parties to craft situations friendly to their candidates after independent organizations, such as the League of Women Voters, refused to oblige.
"The League of Women Voters is withdrawing its sponsorship of the presidential debate scheduled for mid-October because the demands of the two campaign organizations would perpetrate a fraud on the American voter," League President Nancy M. Neuman responded in 1988 to rule-setting collaboration between Democrats and Republicans. "It has become clear to us that the candidates' organizations aim to add debates to their list of campaign-trail charades devoid of substance, spontaneity and honest answers to tough questions."
Bypassing the Commission, itself a creature of the parties, in favor of candidate-friendly arrangements between the campaigns formalizes a setup that long ago abandoned externally imposed discipline. Now that decades have gone by since an outside organization put the screws to campaign machines and memories have faded, the charade can be dropped.
Convenient Staging
Speaking of fading memories, keen political observers will note that the 2024 presidential election will be in November. That's two months after the second and, supposedly, final debate. It's fair to assume that the Biden camp, in particular (Trump is pushing for more matchups), hopes that a poor performance that can't be edited will be forgotten by election day.
The first debate is scheduled for June, before either the Democratic convention in August or the Republican convention in July, so neither Biden nor Trump will yet be their political party's official standard-bearer. They'll probably be nominated, but technically they'll just be likely contenders.
The suspicion here is that the June 10 gathering was scheduled so early because normal people will more likely be heading out for summer vacations than tuning into politics. A disastrous performance by an ancient politician who may be well past his sell-by date leaves time to slip somebody new into the gig after a few weeks of behind-the-scenes maneuvering and backstabbing by would-be replacements.
The exclusion of other presidential candidates, especially Robert F. Kennedy Jr., is aggravating but no surprise. In its day, the Commission on Presidential Debates only ever allowed one outsider candidate to debate. That was Ross Perot in 1992, who was polling strongly and went on to win 19 percent of the vote after performing well on stage. The Commission kept Perot out in 1996 and never again allowed an independent or third-party hopeful into the club.
Polls show an average of around 10 percent support for Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and nobody is entirely certain how his candidacy affects Biden and Trump, so it's understandable the major-party campaigns would want to exclude the independent (though Trump is signaling openness to a three-way debate). But voters are lukewarm to the name-brand options, favoring replacements for both when asked, and might well want to see what one or more alternatives have to offer.
Another disservice to the public is cutting off the microphone for whichever candidate isn't speaking. Conventional wisdom has it that this hurts Trump, who has a nasty habit of interrupting his opponents. But the former president's abrasive antics aren't universally popular. Voters should get to see the two political retreads spar on stage so they can judge such interactions for themselves.
Debates Should Be Hard on Candidates
Unfortunately, some people seem to think the purpose of political debates (or "debates") isn't to test the candidates' mettle against one another, but to nudge the system towards a preferred outcome.
"Donald Trump and President Biden should engage in no one-on-one debates," academic and frequent commentator John McWhorter cautioned last week. "And Biden's just-announced decision to participate in two debates is an error that overly validates Trump."
McWhorter is usually a sharp and reasonable thinker, but his concern that Trump could "distort a debate into a cage-fight" and leave Biden battered is badly misplaced. Trump is validated not by sharing a stage with an opponent, but by the millions of Americans who support his candidacy. A candidate who isn't up to taking on a political rival in a televised setting is probably even less prepared for high-stakes decisions and behind-the-scenes confrontations with world leaders.
If that's the case, it's not time to forego debates, but for Democrats to swap out Biden for an alternative who is up to the challenge of answering questions, thinking in the moment, and trading barbs. The timing of that June 10 meetup suggests that somebody is thinking along those lines.
Ultimately, debates aren't supposed to serve the purposes of candidates and their campaigns. So long as the presidency wields vast powers—and that doesn't seem likely to change soon—the voters should be able to test applicants for the job. If the candidates dislike those tests, so much the better.
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"Voters should get to see the two political retreads..."
You misspelled "retards".
Biden is bringing Kamala with him?
Criminalize lying and elect the candidate still talking.
That’s unconstitutional. And even if it weren’t, you would be the kne going to prison for your lies about the Holocaust and Israel. Among other things.
You think the crimes of perjury and fraud are unconstitutional?
Don’t worry about me.
"Unfortunately, some people seem to think the purpose of political debates (or "debates") isn't to test the candidates' mettle against one another, but to nudge the system towards a preferred outcome."
Those same people beleive the entire campaign and media coverage purpose is to nudge the system towards a preferred outcome, which explains their enthusiam for censoring social media content and news reporting.
In an age of endless, instant access information what purpose do presidential debates now serve?
In an age of endless, instant access information what purpose do presidential debates now serve?
Iuhnuh. Hey, did you see the trailer for the HOTD-S2?
The debates serve the purpose of enabling us to see how sharp the individuals vying to become President are. Being President isn’t about writing policy papers or giving stump speeches. It’s about making real-time decisions from hiring and firing personnel to responding to international crises.
We can all have abstract political preferences, but the capacity of the individual candidate to do the job also matters. And debates are pretty much our only opportunity, as the voting public, to see the candidates engage in a real-time contest with someone that wants to defeat them.
That would leave senile old Joe out of the picture since he can't form rational cohesive sentences anyway.
That’s what all the cheating is for.
This isn’t the boomers hey day when there were five tv channels, one or two newspapers per city, and no internet. There is ample, readily available video online of Biden, Trump, and RFK Jr to make an informed decision about each’s cognitive abilities. One of them can’t string sentences together, remember which way to walk, or successfully maneuver a step.
One of them can’t string sentences together, remember which way to walk, or successfully maneuver a step.
You'll have to be more specific.
Poor sarc
Methinks the lad has long TDS.
Don’t forget the significant and ongoing brain damage he suffers due to his severe alcoholism.
Personally, one of, if not the greatest achievements of Trump has been the pulling back of the curtain about the handlers and sycophants woven from the WH to the press core and the deep state. Even if he didn’t broadly succeed in gutting the leviathan, it’s a part of a legitimate campaign discourse or consciousness now. That you aren’t (and haven’t for a while) been voting for a clean and charismatic leader as much as you are, at best, voting for a facilitating spokesperson between Congress, The Media, and Intelligence Agencies. Something the debates were generally intended to portray as the opposite.
There are voters who think more of Biden than they should, since he pretty much speaks only off teleprompters. Witness the reaction to the state of the union speech.
If they haven’t arrived at Biden being who he is, will the debate change their minds? If they have been cloistered this long from the truth, they will be walked off the ledge again with the spin afterwards. I get primary race debates where folks may mot have seen some or even all of the candidates beyond a five second clip. These are two presidents facing each other.
I’m past all of it. Elections and the courts have failed us. The administrative state and the intelligence community large run things through the democrats and RINOs anymore. They will have to be removed forcibly.
Does anyone really disagree with that observation?
I plan to vote for Biden. Reluctantly and strategically.
I feel the same way about eliminating the democrat party.
The debates serve the purpose of enabling us to see how sharp the individuals vying to become President are.
LOL, hardly. The debates don’t do anything except set things up for who can deliver the biggest snaps, and they've been that way for a while. And the candidates we have this round are both old as fuck, with one who will say whatever goofy stuff goes through his head at the time, and the other who’s going to be getting his lines fed to him through an earpiece.
They certainly didn’t convince R voters to pick someone other than Trump. Why would they be particularly important in the general?
They would be more useful if conducted by an uninterested 3rd party (therefore barring all MSM shit).
I dont want a moderator purposefully inserting "fact checking" of candidates in a way that clearly shows bias, or having them ask pointed questions such as "Sir! Will you denounce white supremacy?!"
With Trump involved, I dont know if this is possible, finding someone without a strong opinion AND that can conduct a good neutral debate.
The debates used to be run by the League of Women Voters. But they allowed independent candidates like Ross Perot and John Anderson on the stage, so the Dems and Repubs decided they had better form a bipartisan (i.e. two-party) commission to run them.
TL;DR Then the major candidates just won't participate in them.
Yup.
“…debates are not supposed to serve the purposes of candidates and their campaigns.”
Except participation in debates are not a legal requirement of campaigning for office, so the only reason a candidate has for participating in a debate is if not doing so looks so badly that it goes against the candidate’s purpose of getting elected. Presidential debates are a relatively recent feature of Presidential politics and are in no way the sacred cow some journalists want to treat them as.
I agree with this comment. There is no requirement for debates and the current debate format is useless to the person looking for information.
Of course you’re against them. Debate are poison to your senile, doddering democrat overlord.
"And the meetups will follow kindergarten rules . . . "
Funny thing, not interrupting your opponent is part of the rules for real debates. You know, actual, fact based, university level debates where there is an actual question under debate. Instead we get joint press conferences designed to develop sound bites for the "press" to use the next day to sell ads.
The best change would be to get rid of the media, not the audience.
Have a single subject debate, say the economy, or social security, or foreign policy or border security, and make the candidates cite sources.
Otherwise we can just go read the party platform and know all we need to know.
High school level debates would be a step up in this case.
"Real debates" would require the candidates to agree ahead of time to disagree about one question and argue that question on its merits. The so-called debates we've had for the last 60 years has been nothing but a media spectacle, allowing the mainstream media to aggrandize themselves.
That's what they do now. The problem is that the only question is "Which of these two lying, corrupt morons will do the least damage to the country?"
And there is a clear and recent record to provide the answer.
(even to reluctant people)
Not hard to decide on the single subject: why I should be elected and you shouldn't.
The debates can't be any tougher because Trump would become flummoxed. Then the media would criticize the debate hosts for playing favorites.
Also lets take a moment to acknowledge that it is stupid to say who "won" or "lost" the debate. Who won? The person who gets elected, and that is not known at debate time.
"Then the media would criticize the debate hosts for playing favorites."
Remind us, who is the CNN debate host set to be?
Probably Donna Brazile.
It’s Tapper and Bash. Hey, maybe that could be a TV show on the USA channel.
LOL. Trump flummoxed by *tougher* debates? Joe is flummoxed by his own monologues.
What else do you expect from a shill like Molly?
If Biden were merely flummoxed, it would be a major improvement in his public speaking skills.
Like in 2020, where the first was Trump against Biden and Wallace?
I'll be sitting this one out as I have in the past. Since I don't own a TV/flat screen ,big screen or whatever screen, I have a perfect excuse not to watch it.
The idea of watching a drooling, senile and feeble minded old man attempting to form credible sentences without lying is beyond the pale. It should make for good entertainment though.
This is something out of the movie Idiocracy or some other dark tale of the coming future.
All these are requirements demanded by Biden - bit it's still Trump's fault?
Yep.
That mean old Trump just accepted every single demand that favors Bumbling Biden. That denied the democrats and press their rightful chance to whine about how mean Trump was to refuse to debate.
Trump knows he can outperform whatever drugged up meat puppet shows up.
I would not call what Trump does debating.
Sure, Trumps the one with the problem……..
Are you ever embarrassed by the stupid, biased shit you write that has no bearing on reality?
They had better have someone from the Trump campaign making their own recording of the debate. Or we will get a heavily edited video from CNN.
They should have to debate Marbury v. Madison, with no notes.
Too easy. Give them Ex parte Milligan and see if they even know what rights were involved especially since both Trump and Biden have talked about violating those rights.
The presidency is a powerful position..
Maybe that should change.
^THIS. The citizens should be determining who will honor there oath of office (uphold the US Constitution; people's law over their government) not who promises them MORE lawless Gov-Gun access for their criminal greed.
It should but that means that Congress has to stand up and do its job legislating and passing budgets. That hard work for Congress.
Then why are you a rubber stamp for the democrat party?
"The presidential debates are awful" does not mean that we should have more of them, not even if they are somehow better. We should first ask if the presidential debates are even theoretically useful. I will argue that, especially in the current case, they are not. We've already seen both candidates' performance. We don't need to hear their lies and spin to evaluate their respective successes and failures.
I'll concede that we haven't seen the third-party candidates' performance as clearly but the debates are a horrible way to get information out of them, too. Debates are a pointless relic - a holdover from the days of Lincoln when people came to listen to the debates (which lasted for hours) primarily as entertainment. An age when Rhetoric as taught and valued. We no longer debate in that style and wouldn't have the attention span to listen if the candidates tried. Just end them. Let us live in peace and stop wasting our money.
I’ll concede that we haven’t seen the third-party candidates’ performance as clearly but the debates are a horrible way to get information out of them, too.
Especially given that since 1988 the debates have been structured specifically to exclude them.
You mean 1996, I'm assuming--1992 had Perot up there with Kang and Kodos.
Why? The debates are glorified infotainment. All of the positions of all the candidates are readily available online, as are descriptions of the qualifications and accomplishments (if any) of the candidates. And some politicians have been known to lie and/or deceive in public comments anyway.
I agree here. As debates are now conducted, they are useless.
Debate audiences are typically there to observe and are generally expected to remain quiet. If they could do so great, otherwise dump them. As for the microphone cutoff, I am looking for each candidates' response not one talking over another. I also have no interest in the candidates mixing it up as that is not a Presidential skill. I agree that the debates need to be tougher but that means less questions and more time for response.
I suggest a number of debates of 1 hour each. Each debate a single topic, Candidates have 10 minutes to explain their position, 5 minutes for rebuttal, 10 minutes for question on what they said, not on other topics, and 3 minutes to close. Get rid of celebrity moderators and get a college debate coach to moderate.
Each debate a single topic, Candidates have 10 minutes to explain their position, 5 minutes for rebuttal, 10 minutes for question on what they said, not on other topics, and 3 minutes to close.
Neither of the current leading candidates could possibly manage such a format.
Why? The first part is a simple speech to explain their position on a topic. Their speech writers can draft that part. These people give speeches all the time. Rebuttal is simple explaining your position against your opponent. Questions and closing statement are already part of the current format. There is nothing tough here and the voters get better information.
If that's the case, it's not time to forego debates, but for Democrats to swap out Biden for an alternative who is up to the challenge of answering questions,
There's a better chance that Libertarians will zero out the welfare state than there is that the Democrats 'swap out Biden'.
Tagging in Kamala wouldn’t improve their situation. The Dems would need the debates to be held under Freebird rules (later also nWo Wolfpack rules) to allow a third member to participate in matches traditionally involving only two per team.
If anything happens, it will be at the convention. Unless Biden has a health problem they can’t cover up.
The Presidential debates tell you as much about the candidates as kicking tires tells you about a used cars condition.
So, look – here’s the problem with the debates: they’re pointless.
You talk of them like they’re a job interview – but they’re not. They were once, but not anymore. Why? The simple answer is: blind partisanship.
Few, if any in America, are currently thinking, “Gosh, do I like Trump or Biden better? I’m really torn between the two. They both have really good qualities, and some that are not so good.” They knew the answer before you finished the question. So, what, a scripted goat rodeo on stage is going to convince people, “Hey you know what, I like this other guy even better!”
The more complex answer is: NOBODY changes their minds after these debates. Everyone went into them already know who they’ve decided, or at the very least are far more inclined to lean toward. And both campaigns come out of the debates not with some earned merit – but just with campaign soundbytes and/or dunking points to direct to the opposition.
And this is all because the ruling class in both major parties, working hand-in-glove (don’t even try to pretend otherwise; even types like AOC/MTG are useful idiots to the elites in this regard) has completely undermined the electoral process for these kinds of big races, having convinced you that elections are a “binary choice.” And rather than offer candidates of merit who legitimately earn their vote with people, they’ve flipped things around and threatened people with, “If you don’t vote X, regardless of how much you hate him; you WILL get Y, who we know you hate even more.” And when you only have X and Y as meaningful options, it’s usually even more reflexive.
“So who are you voting for in Nov…”
“THE DEMOCRAT”, “THE REPUBLICAN”, they both immediately shout. Usually all the way down the ballot, including with people they’ve never heard of.
Meaning we no longer vote for representation in government, we vote our cowardice. What we’re “less afraid of” having happen, based on a very generalized set of very loose policy positions from each side. And then, hilariously, we wonder why our Congress and President never act in OUR interests when they're the sole beneficiaries of this very intentional action.
And this was never more clearer for the political right than in 2018 and the political left in 2016 where the candidates were so openly loathed by the people who willfully and intentionally voted for them. I mean, Mitt Romney getting the MAGA-right vote? Hillary Clinton getting the Marxist-left vote? These things are SO at odds with each other, that it became indisputable: It didn’t matter to anyone who their candidate was, what mattered was who it wasn’t.
So, really – who cares about the debates. It doesn’t change anyone’s mind in a country of hyper-partisan reflexive voters. The only hope is to turn the voter against their party itself. Which, I mean – that’s possible, but not very likely (and they’re more likely to splinter off into GDI’s or Losertarians or Green Weenies or what have you than just flip red-to-blue, or vice versa).
All a consequence of championing ‘democracy’ ([Our] [WE] mob RULES) instead of championing “The People’s” law over their government (US Constitution) and finding/recognizing even a speckle of honor to uphold their oath of office. Ignoring what the USA is is literally destroying its existence.