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Supreme Court

Mrs. Alito and the Bad Flag

Plus: Taiwan's TikTok strategy, Open AI resignations, nicotine freedom, and more...

Liz Wolfe | 5.17.2024 9:30 AM

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The New York Times apoplectic over basically nothing: "At Justice Alito's House, a 'Stop the Steal' Symbol on Display," reads a New York Times headline from yesterday.

According to the Times, an upside-down American flag was flown at Supreme Court Justice Samuel Alito's house for a few days in January 2021—between the January 6 Capitol riot and President Joe Biden's inauguration. The nation's esteemed paper of record suggests this action indicates that Alito thinks the election was stolen from former President Donald Trump.

There is very little evidence available to make this case. People fly upside-down flags for all kinds of reasons; it typically signals "SOS" or a sense that the country is horribly off course. People have historically flown flags in this manner out of protest for the Vietnam War, out of protest for the Supreme Court's 2022 decision to overturn Roe v. Wade, to contest election results (believing the election was stolen or that voter fraud was rampant), or—and don't get the two confused—to signal displeasure with the election results.

Alito reports that his wife was the one who flew the flag in this manner and that it concerned a dispute with a neighbor who posted an anti-Trump sign in their yard, following the election, that used expletives. Mrs. Alito was reportedly angered by this, and flew her flag upside-down in response. It is very hard to tell what intentions were behind one single gesture, reportedly not even done by the justice himself, and no account from neighbors or friends of the Alito family has bolstered the idea that Mrs. Alito is a "Stop the Steal" type.

This reminds me of when media outlets and the Anti-Defamation League claimed the "OK" symbol was actually a white supremacist gesture. If you look hard enough, you can find disturbing symbols anywhere you look, but you must sometimes suspend logic and reason in order to do so. This does not seem like a situation where a sitting Supreme Court justice is supporting overthrowing election results; it looks like a situation where The New York Times is straining to make that the narrative.

How Taiwan handles TikTok: Taiwan, which has long labeled TikTok a national security threat, eschews a national ban on the Chinese-owned app.

Five years ago, the government banned it on the devices of employees. For the last eight years, the ruling party (which will be in power for another four, at least, as the new president is being inaugurated on Monday) has refused to use the app. Legislators in Taiwan say "they do not have the luxury of thinking of TikTok as the only threat," reports The New York Times. "Disinformation reaches Taiwanese internet users on every type of social media, from chat rooms to short videos."

With China—which contests Taiwanese independence and wants reunification (and seems likely to attempt it by military force at some point)—always looming as a threat, TikTok is the least of Taiwanese politicians' worries.

Note that Taiwan is no libertarian tech paradise. Lawmakers there are weighing "measures that tackle internet threats—fraud, scams and cybercrime—broadly enough to apply to all these existing social media platforms," which may end up encroaching on free speech rights. Still, Taiwan has a robust online fact-checking ecosystem and lots of alternative media sites where users might be able to get better information.

All of this is instructive as legislators in the U.S. have passed a ban on the app and more broadly contemplate how much of a threat to national security the Chinese-owned app poses.


Scenes from New York: The Food and Drug Administration hates this photo since they have decided that Elf Bars—which come in a multitude of flavors—are harming America's youth. They're hard to find these days and Customs keeps seizing shipments at the border. AS FOR ME, I will keep enjoying my NICOTINE FREEDOM, and you can pry my little Miami Mint vape from my cold, dead hands!

Liz Wolfe

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  1. Chumby   2 years ago

    Vladimir Zelensky signs law allowing mobilization of convicts in Ukraine

    The military could see up to 20,000 new recruits as the result of this measure.

    – Russia Today

    Zely finding labor for the jobs the Ukrainian oligarchs are not willing to do – die to continue the funneling of western funding to the oligarchs.

    1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

      Things are going badly since hunter resigned from the board at Gasprom.

    2. JesseAz   2 years ago

      Do you even rock in the free world bro?

      1. Chumby   2 years ago

        Yes, but only briefly. If you were blinken, you might miss it.

        1. JesseAz   2 years ago

          You were Biden your time for that pun.

          1. Chumby   2 years ago

            I occasionally putin the effort.

            1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

              It’s a garland you can put up on your tree with a little Kamala at the top, astride the top branch.

              1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

                That’s true man!

              2. JesseAz   2 years ago

                They should kick you put Orban you.

              3. Chumby   2 years ago

                That would be the kremlin la creme.

    3. Ra's al Gore   2 years ago

      Isn't this a slave army?

      Ya think convicts will obey the Geneva Convention?

      1. Zeb   2 years ago

        And a conscript army isn't a slave army?

      2. Rev Arthur L kuckland   2 years ago

        Ukraine already has bio weapons labs and harvests human organ, what make you think they care?

        1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

          Even worse that that, they do business with the Biden family.

    4. Rev Arthur L kuckland   2 years ago

      Hey... Didn't trotsky do the same thing? Dude is more of a derivitive comic than Amy schumer

      1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

        Unfortunately, you can’t axe Trotsky about it.

      2. Eeyore   2 years ago

        Similar level of attractiveness in high heels as well.

        1. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

          Does he sing Eartha Kitt's "Old Fashioned Girl"?
          🙂
          😉

    5. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

      Remember when the MSM reported that Russia did this last year, and how it was a sign of desperation and moral collapse?

      1. HorseConch   2 years ago

        How do they only have 20,000 prisoners to conscript? Have they already freed the rest to fight?

    6. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

      Vladimir Zelensky signs law allowing mobilization of convicts in Ukraine

      Man, they must really be hurting for money if they have to give these guys active duty wages instead of setting up a Wagner Group-style merc company.

    7. Well Adjusted Biden Guy   2 years ago

      It’s so funny how all these people who think they are libertarian come down on the side of a brutal authoritarian engaging in a land grab in Ukraine just because he says he’s anti-woke. Pathetic.

      1. Chumby   2 years ago

        OBL is still a better parody account, but your offering was not awful. On a scale of Biden to 10, you get a 5.

        1. Well Adjusted Biden Guy   2 years ago

          Thanks Putin-bot. I appreciate that. I loved all my characters— closeted gay, Black conspiracy theorist. 47-year old virgin Senater from South Carolina with a secret girlfriend in Canada. They were all fun. The more racist they got and the way all you racists tried to cuck me about how I was being racist the more I loved them.

          My favorite one was when I pretended to be a commenter here and it (I wanna say he, but who knows) threatened to sue me. That was my highlight. It was the only time I got banned. Weird.

          I plan on sticking with this one for a while: smug liberal who thinks you gotta be out of your mind if you’re poor and voting Republican. It’s easy for me as it’s close to home.

          1. Chumby   2 years ago

            Now down to a 3. Biden harder.

            1. Well Adjusted Biden Guy   2 years ago

              I’m a.) fairly well-adjusted and b.) a Biden supporter. Is it really parody at this point? I’ve just arrived at a point in my life where I want to communicate clearly and accurately without resorting to sarcasm about what a dumpster fire this comment board is specifically and the authoritarian impulses of the political Right in general.

              1. Chumby   2 years ago

                Down to 2. You may want to use a 50:50 or phone a friend.

                The comment board used to be great. Like the time the Act Blue and Biden apologist posted links to child pornography. He’a still here though now uses socks and a “2” after his original account name. There was also the time an Obama justice department went after posters making sardonic comments about some crappy judge. Reason folded about as quickly as a 1970s mobile home in a Cat 5 hurricane. Those halcyon days. The silver lining was the wood chipper becoming a dog whistle for liberty.

                1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

                  Well Adjusted Biden Guy 2 incoming.

                  1. Chumby   2 years ago

                    He will just pluggo in another sock account then continue to bang away…hopefully on the keyboard.

          2. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

            I plan on sticking with this one for a while: smug liberal who thinks you gotta be out of your mind if you’re poor and voting Republican. It’s easy for me as it’s close to home.

            LOL, you don't say, you slack-jawed, slope-foreheaded hicklib pederast.

      2. Rev Arthur L kuckland   2 years ago

        Who are you referring to?

        1. Well Adjusted Biden Guy   2 years ago

          You don’t think this drivel

          Zely finding labor for the jobs the Ukrainian oligarchs are not willing to do – die to continue the funneling of western funding to the oligarchs.

          Displays a contempt for the people that are trying to fight off imperialists and fascists from Russia?

          1. Zeb   2 years ago

            It's possible to have contempt both for Putin and Zelensky. Just sayin'.

          2. Idaho-Bob   2 years ago

            Dude uses all of the "ists".

            Imperialists, fascists, and racists in just two posts. Bravo.

            1. Well Adjusted Biden Guy   2 years ago

              What terms would you use to describe a country that has initiated a brutal invasion of its neighbor and brutally silences any attempt to criticize its neighbor. I’m open to suggestions.

              1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

                Your troll is about a half star out of 5. Do better.

                1. DesigNate   2 years ago

                  He can’t.

          3. Chumby   2 years ago

            When is it bedtime at your Camp Pluggo? Oh that’s right, when the big hand is on the little hand.

      3. Zeb   2 years ago

        Seems to me most here come down on the side of "leave me the fuck out of it".

      4. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

        It’s so funny how all these people who think they are libertarian come down on the side of a brutal authoritarian engaging in a land grab in Ukraine just because he says he’s anti-woke. Pathetic.

        You mean the land that Ukraine was shelling prior to the invasion taking place?

  2. JesseAz   2 years ago

    4th Circuit confirms parents have no right to opt yheit kids out of school indoctrination regarding schools. Wut?

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/restoring-america/opinion-restoring-america/3006221/federal-court-took-sledgehammer-parental-rights/

    1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

      Do they still have the option to send their kids to a real school? Up next: no.

      1. Chumby   2 years ago

        Soon to be followed by mandatory political officer visits to homeschoolers.

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

          All kids should learn how to spy and inform on their parents.

          1. Chumby   2 years ago

            If you see something, say something.

            1. Ajsloss   2 years ago

              And if you don’t see anything, make something up because it will please your teacher and you can one-up your friends.

              1. Chumby   2 years ago

                Some may want to be the first kid on their block to send their parents to the gulag.

    2. Á àß äẞç ãþÇđ âÞ¢Đæ ǎB€Ðëf ảhf   2 years ago

      That "regarding schools" confused me, so I read the link. Autocorrect failure?

      The lawsuit was brought by a coalition of parents of various faith backgrounds who objected to a series of LGBT storybooks in elementary school classrooms. The school district had granted an opt-out for such lessons but withdrew it in 2023. After a district court ruled against the parents, an appeal was brought to the 4th Circuit, which affirmed the lower court ruling.

      In the majority opinion, the court said the parents had failed to provide a sufficient body of evidence to indicate that their children would be subjected to indoctrination that would run contrary to their religious beliefs.

      “We understand the Parents’ contention that the Storybooks could be used in ways that would confuse or mislead children and, in particular, that discussions relating to their contents could be used to indoctrinate their children into espousing views that are contrary to their religious faith,” the court said. “But none of that is verified by the limited record that is before us.”

      1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

        "In the majority opinion, the court said the parents had failed to provide a sufficient body of evidence to indicate that their children would be subjected to indoctrination"

        I guess their honors believe that math really is racist, that there are 93 genders, that transwomen are real women, that being punctual is white supremacy, and that you shouldn't tell your parents about the hardcore gay porn in your phys ed class.

    3. Ra's al Gore   2 years ago

      The important thing is he didn't grow up to be a white supremacist. That's because he didn't grow up at all.

      Brother of 10-year-old who died by suicide: ‘Remember him forever’
      Indiana family pushing for change after 10-year-old dies by suicide
      Sammy Teusch took his own life after relentless bullying at school
      His family says they contacted school 20 times, but it didn't help
      https://www.newsnationnow.com/us-news/midwest/indiana-10-year-old-suicide-bullying/

      1. Michael Ejercito   2 years ago

        I wonder why he went to school.

      2. Rev Arthur L kuckland   2 years ago

        Bullying is supported now and fighting back is harshly punished. Every teacher should fae the same fate, and all the students deserver lashings

        1. Ra's al Gore   2 years ago

          Prog Cancel Culture = bullying. Training new Red Guards.

      3. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

        His family says they contacted school 20 times, but it didn’t help

        “Contacted the school”? Jesus fucking Christ.

        If it’s that bad to the point that your kid is having suicidal ideations, as parents you need to be doing a little more than just “contacting the school” multiple times, thinking “This time they’ll listen!”

        1) Teach your kid to throw hands and stand up for himself. If the bully starts a fight, he doesn’t necessarily need to finish it, but he needs to make fighting him such a pain in the ass that they have second thoughts about starting something. That will hopefully head off any meetings you might need to take later.
        2) Don’t let shit slide–get a meeting with the teacher and principle set up right away. If they don’t have something set up after no more than two inquiries, tell them in email three they’ll be hearing from an attorney within a week. Call the secretary and let that person know to inform them directly as well.
        3) Document ANY signs of physical abuse–nail marks, bruises, scrapes, etc. Include that in the lawsuit.
        4) If you think your kid is in actual danger, for fuck’s sake get them out of the school. Then sue the school into the ground.

        1. Idaho-Bob   2 years ago

          This is good advice, but it still relies on the gov't (lawsuits) for resolution.

          Bully the school principal. Relentlessly. Have friends take shifts. Ensure he knows exactly how your kid feels.

          Sometimes violence IS the answer.

          1. Diarrheality   2 years ago

            Absolutely.

    4. Rev Arthur L kuckland   2 years ago

      Isn't that the same school that promotes rape? Checks out

  3. Ajsloss   2 years ago

    Anybody else immediately think of George Bush hanging the “two bad neighbors” sign outside his house? Wait, are you saying that you and Barb are bad neighbors?

    1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

      I was thinking more of a relative’s neighborhood where there’s a family that is a bit of a nuisance to everyone else. They let their patio furniture blow around in the wind, refuse to fence their yard for their pool and their dogs, and left their dogs roam the neighborhood leashless, pooping on other people’s property. It’s a neighbor dispute and nothing more.

      1. R Mac   2 years ago

        I would return the dogshit to it’s rightful place:

        https://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00AL57GEW/reasonmagazinea-20/.BjOD-0Gx3QhdUclB5ZUKu-bVYalx78bZ6xLtNHpx2SMA9KsJx7PiGsGVEh3olZ97v6Yyw7UfF7XR7A2kg2R4U-w7CKL4zXX1l8YoKX9mARo7En8wAbi1bvdlZIyCjx1x5ZcG4tDW5jHIxKhZ0a7H8kTju-g5XBWRJ_IT2qDdTlBJt53qMfsXvjlB8oZcUlpnpUP4RstFnTLoZc_tlJcACg.YBkaA-tBdNpHj05VdTe2H0AeNkiqyejlcr1WOtiji2c&dib_tag=se&keywords=aqua+slingshot&qid=1715955952&sprefix=aqua+slingshot%2Caps%2C145&sr=8-3

        1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

          I like it.

      2. mysmartstuffs   2 years ago

        The federal judiciary has a reasonably to appear apolitical/non-partisan. Those are the rules that they give their employees.

        I find it reprehensible that SCOTUS judges would think they are ABOVE those ethical standards. Recall when FBI agents had partisan private conversations leaked? That was a problem, even though they had the bureaucratic machine to correct any bias. No such mechanism is available to these judges.

        It's absurd that reason would make the claim this was part of a political dispute, then refuse to make the REASONABLE conclusion the meaning of the flag. Even if we give her deference, it doesn't absolve her of RESPONSIBILITY.

        ALITO should acknowledge the perceived conflict of interest and bias. It's absurd these people think they are above the ethical standards, but then again, they believe the president is above them too.

        How does reason, a libertarian outlet, confer with such authoritarian perspectives?

        1. YehoshuaK   2 years ago

          I was not aware that Mrs. Alito is an employee of SCOTUS or, indeed, of any part of the judicial system.

          Oh, wait. She isn't. So she has every right to take whatever public political stance she pleases.

          1. David Perry   2 years ago

            Just like the husband of that liberal darling, RBG. Unless that was (D)ifferent of course.

  4. JesseAz   2 years ago

    Bit of good news. Abbot pardons Daniel Perry who was primarily convicted off the testimony of lrotrstors who swarmed his car.

    https://legalinsurrection.com/2024/05/daniel-perry-get-full-pardon-from-texas-governor-abbott/

    1. Michael Ejercito   2 years ago

      I would expect a wrongful death lawsuit from the estate of Garrett Foster.

      Also, he was Sergeant Daniel Perry of the United States Army, which means he was subject to the Uniform Code of Military Justice at the time of the alleged crime.

      1. Rev Arthur L kuckland   2 years ago

        He followed the rules of engagement. The other guy pulled first

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

          Does not matter. 21st century rules say that skin color determines right and wrong.

          1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

            Foster was white as fuck, but I get your point since his girlfriend was black.

            1. JesseAz   2 years ago

              You probably said that about the Rittenhouse victims too.

              1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

                Huh? I've gone on record saying how happy I am that those two were clapped and a third got his arm torn into hamburger.

                1. JesseAz   2 years ago

                  Activists thinking his victims were black was the joke...

    2. R Mac   2 years ago

      Great news!

    3. ObviouslyNotSpam   2 years ago

      Let's hope justice will be done.

      1. DesigNate   2 years ago

        The pardon IS justice.

        1. ObviouslyNotSpam   2 years ago

          You have an odd concept of justice.

          1. Truthfulness   2 years ago

            Justice can be done by overturning injustice, which is precisely what Gov. Abbott did.

  5. JesseAz   2 years ago

    In a blow to Robbies article yesterday where he inferred Trump didn't want RFK at the debates.... hours later Trump gave an answer when asked about RFK at the debates.

    “I would have no problem if he got whatever the threshold is,” Trump told Benson. “But he’s very low and seems to be heading in the other direction, in the wrong direction.”

    Both sides though.

    1. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 years ago

      So he said he won't debate him, since RFK Jr doesn't reach a subjective undefined number set by Trump/Biden. And that proofs Robby wrong?

      1. JesseAz   2 years ago

        “I would have no problem if he got whatever the threshold is,” Trump told Benson. “But he’s very low and seems to be heading in the other direction, in the wrong direction.”

        Let me post it again and bold it for you.

        RFK says he has crossed the threshold. Trump has no problem with it.

        He didnt set the standard. He doesn’t care if RFK is there.

        I'll even give you a big hint. It was the same standard used in 2020.

        1. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 years ago

          So just do it. RFK jr vs Trump. Done... oh wait he won't because reasons.

          1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

            Same reason he won’t debate you, not a serious candidate.

          2. Outlaw Josey Wales   2 years ago

            Why should Trump agree to a solo debate with RFK?
            What would he gain?

            The goal, for Trump, is to win the election, most likely against Biden.

            A debate with Trump and Biden present would give RFK the opportunity to pit his policy against the top contenders and expose some of the weaknesses of either, which could then be exploited by the competing candidate as well. A solo debate benefits Biden only.

            1. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 years ago

              I don't think he should. It isn't in his best interest

              I just disagree with Jessie that Trump is willing to debate RFK Jr. Otherwise Trump would just do it.

              1. JesseAz   2 years ago

                You disagree with a false premise. The discussion in the Robbie article was the CNN debate. Are you ignorant to this or something?

                Or just can't admit you can't read a simple statement due to bias?

                1. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 years ago

                  Can you admit that it is 100% within Trump's power to debate RFK Jr? And he choices not to?

                  Hiding behind CNN might just be the lamest excuse I've ever heard.

                  1. JesseAz   2 years ago

                    Can you admit Robbie article wasn't about a random private debate and you were wrong?

                    The lameness here is your bias.

                    Find me one quote where Trump said he wouldn't debate RFK to back you up.

                    You've now moved the goalposts so far you aren't even on the field.

                  2. Outlaw Josey Wales   2 years ago

                    Have to agree with Jesse on this one. The question was not whether Trump would debate RFK but whether he had any issue with RFK joining the CNN debate. Those are two different questions and the second question was never asked.

                    1. Quicktown Brix   2 years ago

                      the question was not whether Trump would debate RFK but whether he had any issue with RFK joining the CNN debate.

                      Yes, and Trump said he does have an issue with it-- because RFK didn't meet some arbitrary threshold.

                    2. JesseAz   2 years ago

                      No he didn't. He said if he met the threshold he has no problem. Let me bold it for you guys who are struggling.

                      “I would have no problem if he got whatever the threshold is,” Trump told Benson. “But he’s very low and seems to be heading in the other direction, in the wrong direction.”

                      The threshold seems to be a standard used for at least the last 4 cycles.

                      RFK says he meets the threshold. Trump throwing snark after doesn't change his initial independent clause.

                    3. Quicktown Brix   2 years ago

                      I see what you're saying.

                      I was thinking that since Biden and Trump were setting the rules of other aspects of the debate, they would control this threshold thing too, but if this threshold is set in stone...well we have to take Trump's word for what we think it's worth.

                    4. R Mac   2 years ago

                      There’s always been a threshold. It’s why Libertarians are never in the debate. Why twist Trump’s words just for RFK?

                    5. Quicktown Brix   2 years ago

                      It seems to me that the 2 candidates were setting the rules this time unlike past debates, but chose not to change the threshold. Wasn't that the main point of Robby's article?

          3. JesseAz   2 years ago

            Trump does not control the rules for the debate. CNN sets those rules.

            Youre being ridiculous.

            1. ducksalad   2 years ago

              1. SaGN is right. Trump has already been invited to a debate with RFK Jr at a venue completely independent of CNN. As far as I’ve heard he hasn’t accepted, and that’s because he doesn’t want to. Presumably for strategic reasons, I don't think he's scared.

              2. But I’m not buying that he’s open to debate but he’s constrained by the big powerful bullies at CNN. Networks make a lot of money and prestige off the debates and generally jump to whatever conditions the major candidates want. Whatever rules there are were negotiated between Team Biden and Team Trump with CNN taking notes. I’m open to the idea that Team Biden is more scared and is the one driving most of this.

              3. Elsewhere in the thread, you complained about the debate being moderated by Jake Tapper. Whatever Trump’s problems are, surely you agree he’s more than a match for the likes of Jake Tapper.

              1. JesseAz   2 years ago

                1. Youre both wrong as Robbie article wasn't about a private debate. The fact you've now switched the argument is amazingly funny though. Are you struggling with "I have no problem" as well?

                2. Another non sequitur having nothing to do with Robbie article or my quote. Desperation it seems.

                3. I didn't complain at all in that post. Why lie? I have a link to the bias of the moderators without any statement or complaint.

                It is amazing how far you guys go to try to throw Trump under the bus. I really mean that.

                The irony is RFK says he qualifies for the CNN debate as I've already stated. And Trump said he doesn't care of he is there or not. The Libertarian Party could invite RFK to the convention if they want a debate there.

                But what amazes me most is none of you provide any quote defending Trump won't debate RFK. And you continue to move the goalposts to attack him and defend Robbie whose article was about the official presidential debates, not a series of whatifs you choose to invent.

                I get it. Youre biased and have to both sides everything with bald assertions and stretching of logic. Do you buddy.

                1. ducksalad   2 years ago

                  The Libertarian Party could invite RFK to the convention if they want a debate there.

                  The LP has invited RFK to the LP convention. I don't expect you to know that, but you shouldn't imply knowledge you don't have.

                  It is amazing how far you guys go to try to throw Trump under the bus.

                  What bus? There is no bus. Well, there's the lawfare but that's a totally separate issue.

                  But what amazes me most is none of you provide any quote defending Trump won’t debate RFK.

                  You listen to his bark, we look at his bite. You trust his words, I don't. My evidence is there's an offer on the table and he hasn't taken it.

                  You're biased and have to both sides everything

                  I'll confess to that. I think both Trump and Biden suck badly will continue to point that out. Actually RFK sucks also and I'm angry that any of them were invited to the convention.

                  1. Azathoth!!   2 years ago

                    Trump says he has no problem with RFK Jr being part of the presidential debates if he makes the 15% threshold presidential debate commission set up and which Biden's folks seem to be okay with

                    Somehow you twist this into Trump saying he won't debate RFK Jr.

                    Which he hasn't said.

                    He could. But why? To what end? What purpose would such a debate serve?

                    1. Jefferson Paul   2 years ago

                      I think it would be stupid, strategically, for Trump to agree to debate RFK, Jr. What does Trump have to gain?

                      That being said, these two debates that Biden and Trump agreed to are not through the Commission on Presidential Debates, which has run all of the presidential debates in the last few decades at least.

                      These debates are independent of the CPD. So using the CPD's 15% standard as a reason why RFK won't be at the CNN debate is a non-sequitur.

                    2. ducksalad   2 years ago

                      Now you’re misrepresenting what I said. I haven’t said Trump said he won’t debate.

                      What I’m saying is (a) words that come out of his lips aren’t reliable, in general, and (b) his lack of action in considering an offer already on the table is further evidence that he actually isn’t willing.

                      When his actions and his words are in conflict, I look at the actions. You look at the words.

                    3. JesseAz   2 years ago

                      Now you’re misrepresenting what I said. I haven’t said Trump said he won’t debate.

                      Oh the irony as you misrepresent me, Robbie, and Trump to issue your narrative.

                      (b) his lack of action in considering an offer already on the table is further evidence that he actually isn’t willing.

                      What other demands do you have on Trump? If he doesn't do that it must mean he is evil and should be shunned. Lol.

                  2. JesseAz   2 years ago

                    The LP has invited RFK to the LP convention. I don’t expect you to know that, but you shouldn’t imply knowledge you don’t have.

                    For a debate? Do you have this magical citation or are we switching goals again?

                    You listen to his bark, we look at his bite. You trust his words, I don’t. My evidence is there’s an offer on the table and he hasn’t taken it.

                    Is his bite shit you make up because he didn't say what you wanted him to? Lol.

                    Youre an unserious person. It apparently doesn't matter what facts are, you'll interpret a narrative anyway you want without any evidence. Good boy.

        2. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 years ago

          Or is this one of those times, I'm supposed to listen to what he says instead of his actions?

          1. Outlaw Josey Wales   2 years ago

            Did Bush or Clinton have a solo debate with Perot?

          2. JesseAz   2 years ago

            I mean i Iiterally bolded the relevant part for you. If you can’t comprehend what “I have no problem” means I really can’t help your overt bias here.

        3. ObviouslyNotSpam   2 years ago

          Oh, is it okay to take Trump's words at face value now?

      2. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

        Why waste time with someone who can’t pull 15%?
        Might as well have you on the stage.

        1. CE   2 years ago

          You ought to know that the standard was once 5%.... and was raised to 15% in a bit of bi-partisan agreement, to keep out candidates who might be a threat, if only enough people heard them and saw them being treated as serious candidates.

    2. Quicktown Brix   2 years ago

      In a blow to Robbies article yesterday where he inferred Trump didn’t want RFK at the debates…. hours later Trump

      said exactly what Robby inferred. ???

      1. JesseAz   2 years ago

        Apparently these terms were amenable to Trump, who nevertheless complained that Biden is afraid of crowds.
        . ..
        Of course, both major party candidates are probably more worried about the opposite thing happening: RFK Jr. winning an even greater number of their voters.

        From yesterday. Are you guys so broken you can’t read?

        Trump has never said he didnt want RFK at the debates. Why are you guys arguing this?

        1. ducksalad   2 years ago

          There’s a standing offer to debate RFK at the LP convention.

          Trump has accepted speaking at the LP convention, so you can’t argue he thinks the venue is too fringe or not worth his time, but he hasn’t accepted the debate offer.

          Hence, unwilling to debate RFK.

          And no, I don’t think it’s because he’s scared RFK will make him look bad. I think it’s because his attendance at the LP convention has a completely different purpose.

          1. JesseAz   2 years ago

            Standing offer by whom? Does Trump now control the LP convention so you can attack him?

            Again. Robbie article was about the agreement on presidential debates. You and SOGN are wrong and continue to add non sequitur to complain about nonsense.

            What is really telling of your bias is that basically everyone agrees Biden set the parameters to attempt to get Trump to not agree. Trump called their bluff. And you want to scream both sides instead. It is hilarious though.

            1. ducksalad   2 years ago

              Standing offer by whom?

              Both Trump and RFK have been invited to speak at the convention, by the LP national chair. Again, I don’t expect you to follow or care about what some obscure party you’re not a member of does, however, it is a fact.

              Does Trump now control the LP convention

              Actually various versions of that accusation are being made within the party. Probably not literally true, but I do believe some members of the national leadership are too soft-hearted about him. We’re supposed to be running against him (and Biden and RFK) and taking their voters. That is literally the national leadership’s main job.

              Instead they’re botching stuff like ballot access and giving platforms to our opponents.

              1. JesseAz   2 years ago

                Both Trump and RFK have been invited to speak at the convention, by the LP national chair. Again, I don’t expect you to follow or care about what some obscure party you’re not a member of does, however, it is a fact.

                You can fuck off with your retarded personal attacks.

                They have been invited to speak not to debate you ignorant retard.

                You keep attacking others while being completely retarded and biased.

                Let me guess. Youre one of those dems in libertarian clothing who cry yourself to sleep screaming the MC is coming, the MC is coming.

                Been a member longer than you decided to put your libertarian facade over your dem talking points.

                Don't even understand the difference between a speaking event and a debate. Fucking hilarious.

                So fuck off now.

                1. Chumby   2 years ago

                  Duck salad using more word salad to duck words? Word.

                  1. JesseAz   2 years ago

                    How many words can a dem duck muck if a dem duck could muck up words.

  6. Ra's al Gore   2 years ago

    You are China. You want Taiwan for historical/political reasons and your economy is in bad enough shape a war may be good for you politically. Taiwan is also a big naval base blocking you from the Pacific.

    Why would you NOT prestation troops behind 'enemy' lines thru Reason's open border?

    More Chinese Nationals Illegally Entered The U.S. In Two Days This Month Than In All Of 2021
    https://thefederalist.com/2024/05/16/more-chinese-nationals-illegally-entered-the-u-s-in-two-days-this-month-than-in-all-of-2021/

    1. Chumby   2 years ago

      Is this a “choose your own adventure” in the comments?

      1. Ra's al Gore   2 years ago

        https://x.com/JunkScience/status/1791453909946396941

        The White House is right about Beijing’s predatory trade tactics, to be sure... Nevertheless, for the climate, Chinese industrial policy has done undeniable good.

      2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

        Isn't it always?

        1. Chumby   2 years ago

          The post began with: You are China

          I recall a choose your own adventure offering with: You are a Shark (Mako?)

          1. Jefferson Paul   2 years ago

            I freakin' loved those Choose Your Own Adventure books as a little kid!

            1. Chumby   2 years ago

              This is why I was excited when I started reading R a G’s post.

    2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

      Food truck assault vehicles?

      1. Chumby   2 years ago

        Grilled chicken with balsamic demi glace gluten free MWRAP?

        1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

          It’s a gut bomb!

          1. CE   2 years ago

            Needs lots of botulism test kits. Bailey is on it.

    3. CE   2 years ago

      What “historical” reasons? The legitimate government of China fled to Taiwan. If you followed history, Taiwan would get China back.

  7. JesseAz   2 years ago

    Patrick Webb
    @RealPatrickWebb
    BREAKING: New bank accounts of the Biden family have been found which were used with the sole purpose of receiving money being laundered from China, Romania, and Russia as a result of the family’s influence peddling while Joe was Vice President, with over $240,000 in checks being directly wired to Joe Biden with no explanation of what services were provided in exchange for the payments.

    https://x.com/RealPatrickWebb/status/1791098156689608960

    1. Michael Ejercito   2 years ago

      All this attention was paid because the Dem leadership threw a hissy fit over a phone call.

      1. Ra's al Gore   2 years ago

        Old news. Local story.

        TRUMP!!!!!!

  8. Ra's al Gore   2 years ago

    Taylor Swift Files for ‘Female Rage: The Musical’ Trademark
    https://www.billboard.com/music/music-news/taylor-swift-female-rage-the-musical-trademark-1235682484/

    1. JesseAz   2 years ago

      Sounds as bland and formulaic as the rest of her material.

      1. Ra's al Gore   2 years ago

        Has anyone noticed the AWFLs getting more angry and shrill as Biden becomes more of an obvious senile failure?

        1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

          That's been their default emotional state since the French Revolution.

        2. See Double You   2 years ago

          "Always Whining Female Loser"?

    2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

      Did somebody ask her to make sandwiches?

  9. JesseAz   2 years ago

    Garland begged Joe to make the Hur interview tapes fall under executive privileges. Seeing as how the transcripts are released, there is no reason for this privilege.

    https://justthenews.com/government/white-house/biden-invokes-executive-privilege-prevent-release-recording-special-counsel

    1. HorseConch   2 years ago

      There's no way they altered the transcript. I know that my government would never, ever try to deceive me.

  10. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    I'm boycotting Reason until they release Scottie Scheffler. WHO'S WITH ME?

    1. Á àß äẞç ãþÇđ âÞ¢Đæ ǎB€Ðëf ảhf   2 years ago

      I guess everyone who doesn't respond.

    2. JesseAz   2 years ago

      Can we rotate every couple of hours like the Palestine protestors?

      1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

        Will food be delivered?

        1. Chumby   2 years ago

          By a Michelin star ranked food delivery truck operated by a trans immigrant sex worker that does ass sex and smokes pot?

          1. Ajsloss   2 years ago

            After the tampon delivery.

          2. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

            Sounds like an ENB article.

          3. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

            I only eat non-GMO gluten-free fair-trade vegan.

            1. Chumby   2 years ago

              I’m fairly picky about my trans immigrant sex workers too.

    3. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 years ago

      Reason kidnapped Scottie? For that I think we should maybe do something more substantial and targeted; like blocking traffic in Biloxi, MS until the Russians agreed to stop laying gaslines.

    4. HorseConch   2 years ago

      I'm just waiting for everyone to start shouting white privelege because he got released so quickly.

  11. Medulla Oblongata   2 years ago

    "This reminds me of when media outlets and the Anti-Defamation League claimed the "OK" symbol was actually a white supremacist gesture. If you look hard enough, you can find disturbing symbols anywhere you look, but you must sometimes suspend logic and reason in order to do so."

    I remember when basketball players who had just hit a 3-pointer and held up the "3-hoop" gesture (which is the same as the ok gesture) were called white supremacists.

    https://www.fahoonews.com/post/it-s-time-to-call-out-the-nba-s-3-point-sign-for-what-it-is-racist

    1. Medulla Oblongata   2 years ago

      P.S. I'm pretty sure the link there is a "fake news" parody of the issue. But there were some earnest complaints for a while, but my google skills don't know how to find them.

      1. JesseAz   2 years ago

        Close.

        https://bleacherreport.com/articles/1927286-high-school-suspends-basketball-duo-after-3-symbol-is-mistaken-for-gang-sign

        1. Ajsloss   2 years ago

          I like the celebration wherein they “inject” the white power straight into their ice-cold veins.

          1. JesseAz   2 years ago

            Well the 3 time MVP is white. So was Steve Nash as a 2 time. Racist award ceremony.

    2. Minadin   2 years ago

      "when media outlets and the Anti-Defamation League claimed the "OK" symbol was actually a white supremacist gesture. If you look hard enough, you can find disturbing symbols anywhere you look"

      If you're the one hearing the racist dog-whistle, you might be the racist bitch.

      1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

        The only reason they said that is because it's one of the greatest 4chan psyops ever. The entire left-wing establishment fell for it completely.

        1. Minadin   2 years ago

          In completely unrelated news, it turns out that the progressive left is gullible and completely uncritical in their thinking.

  12. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    ...to dismiss one of their players for having given a commencement speech at a Catholic college that says…standard Catholic things.

    You know who else stood up in front of crowds and said intolerant things?

    1. Chumby   2 years ago

      Vince McMahon? He really crapped on some people.

    2. Ajsloss   2 years ago

      Ilhan Omar?

    3. sarcasmic   2 years ago

      George Carlin?

    4. Bertram Guilfoyle   2 years ago

      Every reason commenter except sarc and chemjeff?

    5. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

      Philippe Petain?

    6. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 years ago

      Robert Plant?

    7. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

      Martin Luther?

    8. Commenter_XY   2 years ago

      POTUS Donald Trump?

    9. Minadin   2 years ago

      Michael Richards?

      1. Rick James   2 years ago

        This is the ONLY correct answer.

  13. Medulla Oblongata   2 years ago

    These xenophobic nationalists (and racist to boot) are just mad because some foreigners who've lived in the country for 10 years or more might be allowed to vote...

    https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/15/asia/new-caledonia-violence-france-vote-intl-hnk/index.html

    1. American Mongrel   2 years ago

      Anti colonialism really is a racist ideology. It's valorization of Stone Age culture is also strange.

      1. Rick James   2 years ago

        But anti-colonialism never valorizes stone age culture. Decolonization theory is really REcolonization theory. The answer to decolonization is never to return the society back to its precolonial state, it's to recolonize it with the systems proposed by dead German philosophical economists.

        1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

          dead German philosophical economists.

          Theologians is really a more accurate description of them.

    2. Medulla Oblongata   2 years ago

      And now the government bans TikTok!

      "In what's marked as an EU first, the French government has blocked TikTok in its territory of New Caledonia amid widespread pro-independence protests.

  14. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    There has been a wave of resignations recently at OpenAI...

    Skynet must support genocide.

    1. mad.casual   2 years ago

      Me: Give me the tag line from a dystopian future AI suspense horror movie mashup.
      Reality: The cryptic resignations and tweets are coming from inside the house!

  15. Ra's al Gore   2 years ago

    Food Trucks

    https://x.com/NiohBerg/status/1791046573939409010

    Martina Mamdouh Wadih, a Coptic Christian, has been violently abducted, forcibly converted to islam, and married to the islamist who kidnapped her.

    Her mother is begging the world for help to rescue Martina.

    1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

      I suppose he clubbed her on the head and dragged her home by the hair.

      1. Stuck in California   2 years ago

        Of course by the hair. If you drag them by the leg they fill up with dirt.

    2. Rev Arthur L kuckland   2 years ago

      This is why the phrase Muslims are animals is 100% accurate

    3. American Mongrel   2 years ago

      I don't think the crowd that whines about food trucks would be happy if we started importing Coptic and Assyrian (or Nigerian) Christians nor if we made any military effort to defend them against their Muslim oppressors.

      So what's the point of highlighting this?

      1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

        So what’s the point of highlighting this?

        You know the point. It is to push the "Muslims Are Evil" narrative.

  16. Hickamore   2 years ago

    "This does not seem like a situation where a sitting Supreme Court justice is supporting overthrowing election results; it looks like a situation where The New York Times is straining to make that the narrative." Sorry; it's no strain at all. Alito has made clear that he fully shares Scalia's view that the independent judiciary is a myth. He is an avid partisan and MAGAT. And what could be more juvenile than A SUPREME COURT JUSTICE'S WIFE, WHO SHARES HIS HOUSE, responding in this childish, war-or-symbols manner? "Unbecoming of the judiciary" puts it mildly. The code of judicial conduct, which applies to all courts EXCEPT SCOTUS, covers judges' spouses. Alito knows this but doesn't care.

    1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

      Tell that to Merchan and Kaplan. Otherwise, STFU.

    2. Rev Arthur L kuckland   2 years ago

      What is a woman?

      1. ObviouslyNotSpam   2 years ago

        You'll figure it out, eventually.

        1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

          So do you have an answer, or are you just spamming?

          1. ObviouslyNotSpam   2 years ago

            You don't know, either? Your parents were rather remiss.

        2. DesigNate   2 years ago

          Not unless he’s some kind of biologist.

    3. Diarrheality   2 years ago

      Must be difficult being a victim. Surely another sniveling tantrum will get somebody somewhere to care.

    4. ObviouslyNotSpam   2 years ago

      Maybe Alito just didn't notice the flag? Because if he did notice it, and didn't have it removed...

    5. American Mongrel   2 years ago

      Lol. Now this is gaslighting.

      Now it's a grey box.

    6. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

      Shush, hicklib. Nothing you belched out there has any connection to reality, and your side deserves obliteration.

  17. Chumby   2 years ago

    Pre-wall Liz, that is some strange and splotchy sunscreen you are sporting in the photo. And you lost your ring.

    1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

      Tats are trashy.

      1. mad.casual   2 years ago

        Far be it from me to say something like "Let's not judge people based on the color of their skin." but I feel like people who say and think "All tattoos are trashy." don't know what real trashy tattoos look like.

        No ink on any member of my family (that I'm aware of) for at least 3 generations and I certainly agree that there are lots of tats that fit neatly within the pink-hair, nose ring, "I'm a non-conformist by doing what every other non-conformist does." but I've got plenty of scars, birthmarks, and other skin discolorations and deformities that are much less attractive and/or classy.

        I've got a series of slash scar across my forearm that are just a little too light and far down to be me slitting my wrist but looks a lot like someone who used to cuts themselves. I've been asked twice and I'm not sure that "Nah, I was fixing a body panel on a baler when I was 15 and a jagged piece of sheet metal slid across my arm." makes it any more classy.

        1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

          Those aren’t things that you did to your body on purpose.

          1. mad.casual   2 years ago

            How do you know?

            Given the number of them that could've been avoided with even basic PPE, I can see how someone might come to the conclusion that you're wrong.

            1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

              You are free to do as you please. I should be free to express opinions about aesthetics.

      2. Zeb   2 years ago

        At this point they are just boring. Fucking millennials.

        1. Rick James   2 years ago

          I do remember some years ago when I pointed out that they were already the mark of a Wine Mom, someone got their feelers hurt and tried to suggest that they were edgy, and anyone who didn't think so was like a total republican. That was like 2015.

          1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

            Honestly, the really pathetic ones are the dudes in their 50s-70s like Sylvester Stallone, Hulk Hogan, or James Hetfield who get them due to mid-/late-life crises. Like, what exactly are you trying to prove getting that shit in the last 15 years that made you hold off on doing it for the first 2/3 of your life?

            I can get someone younger indulging in it out of trend-chasing, but these old farts should know better and be comfortable enough in their own skin by now that such shit isn’t necessary. Reminds me of Boomer females coloring their hair like teenagers, like that old hag Rosa DeLauro from Connecticut.

            1. Zeb   2 years ago

              Maybe they just like it and aren't trying to prove anything.

              1. American Mongrel   2 years ago

                Maybe they get them for the sole purpose of being judged. The same reason for all ornamentations.

                Gotta take the good with the bad.

                1. Zeb   2 years ago

                  If they are visible. I know a fair number of people with tattoos that are not publicly visible.

              2. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

                More like self-soothing mechanisms.

            2. Jefferson Paul   2 years ago

              Holy Crap! I didn't know who Rosa DeLauro was, so I googled the name. So she's not a trans-woman? She looks quite a bit like one, as in she looks like a man.

              1. Zeb   2 years ago

                I think she's just really old and ugly.

              2. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

                What's notable is that she didn't start doing that until a few years ago. Look up her old photos from the 90s and 2000s and she looks like a perfectly regular second wave feminist of that type.

                The loopy bitch even got a tattoo last year, LOL. Talk about proving my point.

          2. mad.casual   2 years ago

            I was actually going to defend millennials, a bit.

            I can remember in the 90s when it seemed like suddenly everybody had an armband or kanji that someone else had to tell them what it meant scribbled on their forearm, calf, or back of their neck.

            1. Zeb   2 years ago

              Mostly it just amuses me to say "fucking millennials".

              1. Stuck in California   2 years ago

                +1

            2. Rick James   2 years ago

              kanji [...] or back of their neck.

              My ex wife, Gen X, 90s, early adopter. She was the first normie I ever knew that had a tat, and she got stopped CONSTANTLY so people could ask her about her tattoo.

      3. Chumby   2 years ago

        Chumby doesn’t judge but has an opinion. Regarding tattoos, I have drawn the following observations: women with body art are excellent lovers but not so good at pulling the plough. Ymmv.

        1. Rick James   2 years ago

          I'm one to talk. I've got "Live Love Laugh" in cursive across my lower back.

          1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

            Is it in Chinese letters?

        2. mulched   2 years ago

          Chumby shoots his shot!

          C, I appreciate you letting me borrow your private jet to deliver the supplies you donated to those orphans in Malaysia. I know you would have gone yourself if you weren't busy rescuing those kittens from the burning building.

          1. Chumby   2 years ago

            Those baby cats hid in the oven when the fire started to rage. Got there just in time to prevent the kittens from turning into muffins.

            Malaysia?!?! Those supplies were sent to the flood evacuees in Kazakhstan! It is hard to find good help. If you can’t help those there a second time, Ural fired.

  18. Rev Arthur L kuckland   2 years ago

    New change. Org petition

    All peoe that support change. Org petitions have all their assets seized and if they are American, their is citizenship is revoked

  19. JesseAz   2 years ago

    A look at the unbiased moderators CNN chose.

    https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/holdcnns-jake-tapper-has-trashed-trump-years-now-hes-moderating-debate

    1. Michael Ejercito   2 years ago

      Interesting.

      He was an election denier!

  20. Ra's al Gore   2 years ago

    If the Chinese military literally invaded, Reason would be all about the poor immigrants forced to wear govt surplus clothing.

    Video: Syrians in Tactical Gear Cross Southern Border, Stop to Talk with Interviewer
    https://nationalfile.com/video-syrians-in-tactical-gear-cross-southern-border-stop-to-talk-with-interviewer/

    1. JesseAz   2 years ago

      The media buried a story of two Jordanian illegals trying to get into a military base and rushed the gate when questioned.

      https://nypost.com/2024/05/13/opinion/a-jordanian-who-crossed-border-illegally-tried-to-force-his-way-onto-a-us-marine-base/

      1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

        Couldn’t wait to join up!

        1. Ra's al Gore   2 years ago

          You joke(?) but there is talk about dealing w/ military recruiting shortfalls by using immigrants, legal or otherwise.

          Perfect military for oppressing the locals. Hey, if the illegals have Chinese military training we don't even have to pay to train them.

    2. ObviouslyNotSpam   2 years ago

      Congratulations! You are clearly among the most discerning of infotainment consumers.

      National File
      Bias Rating: FAR RIGHT CONSPIRACY-PSEUDOSCIENCE
      Factual Reporting: LOW
      Country: USA
      MBFC’s Country Freedom Rating: MOSTLY FREE
      Media Type: Website
      Traffic/Popularity: Minimal Traffic
      MBFC Credibility Rating: LOW CREDIBILITY

      "In general, National File is a light version of Infowars that lacks credibility."

      1. Minadin   2 years ago

        How does the site you used to pull that report rate MSNBC?

        1. ObviouslyNotSpam   2 years ago

          Bias Rating: LEFT
          Factual Reporting: MIXED
          Country: USA
          Press Freedom Rank: MOSTLY FREE
          Media Type: TV Station
          Traffic/Popularity: High Traffic
          MBFC Credibility Rating: MEDIUM CREDIBILITY

      2. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

        Are you going to provide a link to that?

        1. ObviouslyNotSpam   2 years ago

          "MBFC" is Media Bias/Fact Check. No one source is infallible, but this one checks out as fairly reliable, in my experience.

          1. Minadin   2 years ago

            They rated MSNBC as 'medium credibility'.

            They're fucking Pravda.

      3. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

        He is the guy who, just yesterday, posted an obvious parody as if it were a real news story.

      4. CE   2 years ago

        Oh, I thought you were describing Reason....

        1. ObviouslyNotSpam   2 years ago

          Bias Rating: RIGHT-CENTER
          Factual Reporting: HIGH
          Country: USA
          MBFC’s Country Freedom Rank: MOSTLY FREE
          Media Type: Magazine
          Traffic/Popularity: Medium Traffic
          MBFC Credibility Rating: HIGH CREDIBILITY

  21. But SkyNet is a Private Company   2 years ago

    Nothing on Bragg suborning perjury?

    1. Ra's al Gore   2 years ago

      The Party is the sole determiner of Truth.

    2. JesseAz   2 years ago

      He still hasn't proven the crime leading to elevation to felony either. A required element of the charges. I doubt Merchan cares. The entire thing was to get Trump on the stand where Merchan said Trump could be asked anything even not related to the current trial.

      1. HorseConch   2 years ago

        From what I’ve read, all he has proven is that Cohen and Daniels are shitty people. Also, the two of them concocting the entire thing so they can both shake down Trump is way more likely than Trump committing 34 felonies.

      2. Commenter_XY   2 years ago

        Bragg doesn't have to prove the crime, he just has to convince the jury that POTUS Trump intended to change the outcome of an election. It is crazy, but true. You only need to 'prove' intent to the jury, not a crime.

        With a NYC jury, this should be easy for Bragg to do. POTUS Trump will be found guilty of something by the jury. After the charged testimony of last week and this week, it is a lock - he will be found guilty.

        It is totally fucked up, JesseAZ.

        1. JesseAz   2 years ago

          Except he has to prove the intention to satisfy the elements of the crime of changing the election. Even the NYT admitted the law Bragg chose what never been used the way Bragg wants it to be used. And Bragg absolutely has to prove Trumps intention to commit the crime. It has to show he would have violated the law to provide the required element of the crime used to elevate. This is not something a prosecutor can just ignore. All elements must be proven.

          1. ObviouslyNotSpam   2 years ago

            "He still hasn’t proven the crime leading to elevation to felony either. A required element of the charges."
            ...

            "And Bragg absolutely has to prove Trumps intention to commit the crime. It has to show he would have violated the law to provide the required element of the crime used to elevate. This is not something a prosecutor can just ignore. All elements must be proven."

            Doin' some legal research on the fly, I see! Better late than never...

            1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

              More research than you do.

              1. JesseAz   2 years ago

                More than none is definitely more.

                1. ObviouslyNotSpam   2 years ago

                  I'm just joshin'. I know you will never admit it.

          2. Commenter_XY   2 years ago

            NYS 175.10 doesn't require conviction of another crime, it only requires intent, and at that, not even sole intent. That is what Bragg is relying on. Bragg could give two shits about the NDA with Stormy. All Bragg has to do is convince the jury that swinging an election was one intent, along with sparing his family the embarrassment. It is a low hurdle, legally. And yes, this is TrumpLaw (a completely novel application of law in one area applied to another completely unrelated area). It is wrong, selective and vindictive prosecution by corrupt prosecutors, but unfortunately it is our future.

            It is a biased NYC jury that will convict POTUS Trump. I won't even get into Judge Merchan. POTUS Trump will be convicted of something, of that I have no doubt, unless there is a mistrial (nope, not with this judge, it is personal btwn he and POTUS Trump).

    3. Gaear Grimsrud   2 years ago

      Well it is a scene from New York. But probably too local for Reason.

    4. damikesc   2 years ago

      Yeah, this is rather offensive.

      Cohen will not be charged with perjury. And it is clear as all hell and undeniable that he did it.

      1. But SkyNet is a Private Company   2 years ago

        Cohen’s former lawyer spent an hour giving Bragg exculpatory evidence, which Bragg never presented to the GJ, and cut him off when he tried to talk about it in front of the GJ

        Maybe Bragg needs disbarring and a little jail time

        1. damikesc   2 years ago

          And we might need to look CLOSELY into Soros, given how his money seems to do very little good for America but it does do a ton of harm.

    5. Commenter_XY   2 years ago

      No, that is (D)ifferent.

  22. Rev Arthur L kuckland   2 years ago

    American jew: the Muslims are violent lying animals that can’t be tristed

    Israeli jew: the Muslims are violent lying animals that can’t be tristed

    American adl jew: those other jews and all of the people that support them are racist, now give me money or I will paint a political target on your back

    Member when the writer for reason didn't act like one person spoke for a population? It was so long ago kuck doesn't member

    1. mad.casual   2 years ago

      To be fair, between black-face, woman-face, etc., etc., etc., it was only a matter of time before they got to Jew-face.

      I think the most surprising thing is that they seem to think it will work.

    2. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

      I remember when Richard Mitchell in the pages of Reason justifiably railed and raised Hell about crappy spelling and grammar. I also remember Alan Bloom justifiably lamenting The Closing of the American Mind and E.D. Hirsch attempting to fight cultural illiteracy.

      I guess the Right isn't what it used to be.

      1. Rev Arthur L kuckland   2 years ago

        Yep Grammer and spelling invalidates a point.

        The fun part is even when your Grammer and spelling is perfect, your still a retard.

        1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

          Grammar and spelling are just a construct, man.

          1. Ajsloss   2 years ago

            Patriarchal white supremacy.

        2. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

          Your spelling and grammar makes it damn near impossible to see a point.

          And as if your pronouncement about me makes it so.

          1. Diarrheality   2 years ago

            What really makes it damn near impossible is your deliberately ignoring the point, asshole.

            1. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

              Some person named Diarrheality calls me an asshole. That's rich!
              🙂
              😉

        3. mad.casual   2 years ago

          The fun part is even when your Grammer and spelling is perfect, your still a retard.

          Jesus. I thought retarded grammar Nazis on the internet had generally absorbed this point 30 yrs. ago.

          "I know what will convince everyone my point is valid and that I'm correct... a powerful, dominating demonstration of my superior grammar! No one would... could ever refuse an argument delivered with perfect grammar!"

          1. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

            It helps make the argument clear. If you don't use valid deductive reasoning or refer to actual evidence, then the problem isn't grammar, but you.

  23. Ra's al Gore   2 years ago

    https://x.com/MarinaMedvin/status/1791467325163495604

    Israeli forces have discovered 4 hostage bodies in Rafah.

    Families are being notified.

    Photo of military notifications circulated on Israeli Telegram channels

  24. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

    It’s amazing how oblivious Washington D.C. and it’s habitués are!

    In a world with Islamofascists, Communists, and Revanchists threatening from abroad…

    In a world where their apologist stoolies dominate academia and media at home…

    in a nation that is post-Lawrence and Obergefell…

    In the middle of the shake-up and upending of culture that has taken place over the last four years…

    Washington, D.C. now has a statue of a Jew-Hater and a Gay-Basher!:

    Billy Graham statue engraved with Bible verses and a cross unveiled in U.S. Capitol
    by Lisa Moseley | May 16, 2024 | Billy Graham, Releases
    https://media.billygraham.org/billy-graham-statue-unveiled-in-us-capitol/

    1. Rev Arthur L kuckland   2 years ago

      What is it about not liking the mentally ill and pedofiles do you dislike the most?

      1. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

        Jews and LGBTQ people are not collectively mentally ill or pedophiles (proper spelling)...and you know this.

        1. JesseAz   2 years ago

          Nobody says all.

          the ratio of heterosexual to homosexual pedophiles was calculated to be approximately 11:1. This suggests that the resulting proportion of true pedophiles among persons with a homosexual erotic development is greater than that in persons who develop heterosexually.

          https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/1556756/

          Now tell us about Christian Nationalists again.

          1. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

            You forgot the sentence after that:

            This, of course, would not indicate that androphilic males have a greater propensity to offend against children.

            And not all Christians are Christian Nationalists and not all Nationalists are Christian. I've never said otherwise.

            Start again.

            1. JesseAz   2 years ago

              Your comment said LGBTQ no?

          2. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

            Oh, and Rev. Cuckie by the above scrawling effectively said all.

        2. Mike Parsons   2 years ago

          “Jews and LGBTQ people are not collectively mentally ill or pedophiles ”

          Jews, agreed.

          LGB people, also agreed.

          TQ? Definitionally mentally ill, sometimes also pedos

          Your argument might be more credible if we werent coming up on that month where they encourage children to be present while guys in thongs and ball gags ride around on huge cock floats. Or get all up in arms when guys in skirts with fake tits cant read stories to kids or entertain them with raunchy humor.

          1. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

            I've never supported anything sexual involving children or dumb animals or anything graphically sexual performed in public.

            We have more in common than you may think.

        3. Rev Arthur L kuckland   2 years ago

          The t and the q are all pedos, the lgb group was removed from mental disorder list by political pressure

          1. Mike Parsons   2 years ago

            Ive known enough L's and G's who are normal folks that have families and are happy to live their lives while preferring a different kind of genitalia in the bedroom now. They're fine.

            The people who have no idea what gender they are in another category

        4. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

          "LGBTQ people are not collectively mentally ill"

          Homosexuals and bisexuals are not collectively mentally ill.
          The LGBTQ people are an insane religious cult built out of Derrida and Foucault's nonsensical and evil philosophies.

    2. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

      "Washington, D.C. now has a statue of a Jew-Hater and a Gay-Basher!"

      Oh fuck off. This is the same sort of garbage, dishonest association you're complaining is being made against homosexuals.

      1. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

        You were saying?:
        Billy Graham’s Troubling, Nasty Nixon Moment
        The legendary religious leader exposed a nasty side in a 1972 meeting with Richard Nixon.
        By James Warren Contributing Editor for Opinion Feb. 28, 2018, at 7:00 a.m.
        https://www.usnews.com/opinion/thomas-jefferson-street/articles/2018-02-28/dont-forget-billy-grahams-anti-semitic-turn-with-richard-nixon

        Billy Graham leaves painful legacy for LGBTQ people
        While some are celebrating the late Billy Graham’s legacy, many in the LGBTQ community are grappling with the ramifications of his actions.
        Feb. 22, 2018, 11:25 AM EST / Updated Feb. 22, 2018, 11:25 AM EST
        By John Paul Brammer
        https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/billy-graham-leaves-painful-legacy-lgbtq-people-n850031

        1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

          Pound sand.

          What Nixon actually said wasn't antisemitic, nor was it incorrect, and all Graham did was agree with him. Where I disagree with Nixon and Graham is that it was a potential problem, it isn't.

          But I bet you fucking agree with Jeff and Plug that there's too many Catholics on the Supreme Court, and that's a problem. But that's different, right?

          This is the same tenuous horseshit garbage that you invoke against Maximilian Kolbe.

          Meanwhile, you're talking about the LGBTQ cult like its sunshine itself, when it's demonstrated itself to be genocidally eliminationist, screaming vociferous hate against Jews on Campuses nationwide.

          Tell me what Graham said that was remotely equivalent to the alphabet clown's antisemitic hijinks. But again, that's different, right?

          1. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

            Man, you’re like Tom Servo enthusiastically singing “The South’s Gonna Do It Again” without even knowing what the Hell he’s singing about! (Mike obviously had to pull Tom aside during the commercial break):

            MST3K–Laser Blast (Fast Forward to 1:11:18 to 1:22:23)
            https://youtu.be/NlfCm1FMSZI?si=2JkBB7zLA2njjDet

            Since reading comprehsnsion isn’t your strong suit, Billy Graham said:

            “This stranglehold (((of the Jews))) has got to be broken or the country’s going down the drain.”

            and

            Graham referenced friends of his own in the press who were Jewish and how they “swarm around me and are friendly to me.” But, he added, “They don’t know how I really feel about what they’re doing to this country.”

            Luther and Goebbels would find much agreement with Rev. Billy Graham, as would the Neo-NaziSpotlight of the past and today’s Al-Jazeera and any State media in the Muslim world.

            I’ve never invoked Maximillian Kolbe, but looking him up, he would have done more good in the world hiding a MAC-10 “grease-gun* under his robes and making Nazis into martyrs for Der Führer.

            And are you saying that the Libertarian Gays and Lesbians for Individual Librrty and the Log Csbin Republicans are the moral equals of Queers For Palestine??? It sure sounds like it.

            Take a Molson or a Moosehead and you’ll make more sense.

      2. BigT   2 years ago

        FDR!

    3. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

      Washington, D.C. now has a statue of a Jew-Hater and a Gay-Basher!:

      That pretty much describes most of the Capitol Statuary Hall.

      1. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

        Now if only there was a place in the U.S. Constitution authorizing the Federal Government to make Statuaries.

      2. mad.casual   2 years ago

        Assuming "Basher" means "critic" and not "beats with a bat or club"... describes most of the Capitol Statuary Hall, half the Cathedrals in Europe and Western Asia, and a good chunk of the remnants of the Roman, Greek, and Egyptian Empires.

        1. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

          Yup. And Arguments From Tradition and Popularity are Fallacies anytime and anywhere.

  25. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

    'This reminds me of when media outlets and the Anti-Defamation League claimed the "OK" symbol was actually a white supremacist gesture.'

    What would Buckwheat say?

    1. Ra's al Gore   2 years ago

      https://x.com/wideawake_media/status/1791059453648728113

      These wind turbine blades have come to die at a wind turbine graveyard in Texas, USA.

      They've outlived their 20-year lifespan and can't be recycled.

      How very "green" and "renewable".

      1. Rev Arthur L kuckland   2 years ago

        The honest engineers pointed this out years ago. Too bad there isn't a single honest or moral thing in the green movement

      2. Ajsloss   2 years ago

        You know what else outlives their lifespan in 20 years and can't be recycled?

        1. Commenter_XY   2 years ago

          Cicadas?

        2. Chumby   2 years ago

          PFAS?

        3. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

          Climate models?

        4. Minadin   2 years ago

          Child acting stars and / or former Members of the Mickey Mouse Club TV show?

          1. rbike   2 years ago

            I have noticed a significant number of turbine blade carcasses being trucked down I80. Weekly 1 or two.

    2. mysmartstuffs   2 years ago

      I think that just shows a desire for a lack of personal responsibility.

      It doesn't matter that "okay" was built from a troll campaign; it has been used by espoused racists and white supremacists. That they coopted the symbol to its proposed meaning allows them to have plausible deniability in the matter and not take responsibility for their actions. It's not the fault of people pointing out the racists symbol; it's the fault of people who continue to deny it's new use.

  26. Ra's al Gore   2 years ago

    https://x.com/ImtiazMadmood/status/1791408030795391443

    Israel has found 70 tunnels in Rafah so far, 50 of which cross the border into Egypt.

    That's what Egypt was hiding. These tunnels were used to smuggle arms and ammunition to Gaza. Mystery solved. No wonder Egypt and Joe Biden were against Rafah invasion.

    One can speculate that Yahya Sinwar with other Hamas militants together with some hostages are already in Egypt.

    1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

      Before the CIAs color revolution there, the Egyptian government used to blow up those tunnels.

    2. Ajsloss   2 years ago

      Israel has found 70 tunnels in Rafah so far, 50 of which cross the border into Egypt.

      Tunnels out of an open-air prison? This is a conspiracy, that's what this is. One big, damn conspiracy! And everyone's in on it... including her (fuzzy britches).

    3. ObviouslyNotSpam   2 years ago

      Excellent work! But, I'm pretty sure you were the last person on Earth to not have known about the Rafah tunnels...

      First Google result: "According to the documents that MEE is publishing in full, more than 2,000 tunnels were destroyed by military engineers in the border city of Rafah between 2011 and 2015."
      https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/egypt-army-leak-destruction-gaza-tunnels-rafah

  27. Ra's al Gore   2 years ago

    https://x.com/amuse/status/1791179584366363093

    DEBT: With income from sale of Biden's influence cutoff Biden may be insolvent. The president's latest financial disclosures reveal he's almost out of cash with only $50K-$100K in the bank. He may owe as much as $850,000 to various banks.

    1. JesseAz   2 years ago

      Everything is paid for. How is he broke?

      1. Rev Arthur L kuckland   2 years ago

        Coke ain't free

    2. Gaear Grimsrud   2 years ago

      Can't Nancy loan him some cash?

    3. ObviouslyNotSpam   2 years ago

      $850k? He and his wife earned $15 million in the first two years after he left the VP's office. If he loses in November, he'll be a former President and should easily top $10m in 2025 alone (if still alive, I should caveat...).

      I don't think Biden needs to set up a slew of Trump-style money begging websites just yet.

  28. Ra's al Gore   2 years ago

    https://x.com/DaveAtherton20/status/1791061633948582373

    Britain is debating whether to take in 200,000 Palestinians. Against a backdrop of an ISIS flag a Gaza toddler aged 2 enters armed with a knife.

    With the encouragement of the father they proceed to cut the head off an "Israeli" teddy.

    1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

      They're going to culturally enrich right down to the last British Jew.

    2. JesseAz   2 years ago

      Just a cultural knife fight.

    3. Rick James   2 years ago

      Think of the food trucks.

  29. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

    Elf bars? Is that where the privileged class hang out in their Bright enclave? Or the magical snack that Frodo lived on?

    1. Chumby   2 years ago

      During a Christmas holiday in Tir-na-nog, I visited an elf bar. They were serving egg-na-nog.

    2. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

      Are they made from organic free range elves?

      1. Eeyore   2 years ago

        I am now picturing Santa's workshop as a chicken egg production facility. Instead of chickens - there are elves in the little cages. Instead of eggs - the elves are pooping out little toys.

        1. Medulla Oblongata   2 years ago

          https://youtu.be/qWo3ICyJSso

          In "Road to the North Pole", Stewie and Brian go on an adventure to the North Pole so that Stewie can kill Santa Claus. They discover a dreary, polluting factory full of inbred elves and carnivorous, feral reindeer, along with a sickly, exhausted and suicidal Santa.

          "Christmastime is Killing Us" is a song from "Road to the North Pole". In it, Santa Claus and his elves complain about the hardships of working every day until Christmas Eve making presents and receiving all of the kids' wishlists, and how it's made Santa ill and the elves mutated.

  30. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

    "Arbaugh was allowing Neuralink direct, physical access to his, in a procedure that came with all the standard risks of serious surgery as well as the unknown risks of something so new. Doctors would be removing part of his skull and sticking Neuralink's coin-size device with its electrode-laced threads—a foreign object that had never before been tested on humans—into his brain."

    But since Musk has gone far right, this will turn Arbaugh into a raving MAGA loon, right?

    1. Rev Arthur L kuckland   2 years ago

      I love that "far right" means letting people that disagree with progressives talk

    2. Rick James   2 years ago

      e removing part of his skull and sticking Neuralink’s coin-size device with its electrode-laced threads—a foreign object that had never before been tested on humans—into his brain.”

      You know what else...

    3. ducksalad   2 years ago

      this will turn Arbaugh into a raving MAGA loon, right?

      Yes, but the software can be updated when Neuralink gets sold to Google/Alphabet.

  31. Rick James   2 years ago

    The nation’s esteemed paper of record suggests

    I think that we’ve long passed some kind Rubicon where no one considers the NYT to be deserving of this description.

    Personally, I would consider any publication that becomes The Paper of Taylor Lorenz to be bottom-tier.

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

      Well, it is a record of the latest prog grievances and revisionist history.

  32. Rick James   2 years ago

    Note that Taiwan is no libertarian tech paradise. Lawmakers there are weighing "measures that tackle internet threats—fraud, scams and cybercrime—broadly enough to apply to all these existing social media platforms,

    Note that the rest of the world is no libertarian tech paradise.

    Borders are like, a total bummer head trip and shouldn't exist, man.

    1. Ajsloss   2 years ago

      Borders are like, a total bummer head trip and shouldn’t exist, man.

      Love it when you take that tone.

    2. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

      So stopping “fraud, scam, and cybercrime” is anti-Libertarian? What is she talking about?

  33. Alan Vanneman   2 years ago

    Re the difference between Jews in Israel and Jews in the U.S.:

    Jews in Israel also do not have the luxury of ignoring world opinion. The one check on essentially a world-wide alliance against Israel is the United States. If the U.S. gets tired of supporting Israel against the entire world, Israel will be finished. Netanyahu is telling Israel that it can do whatever it pleases because "it has the right to defend itself". But that right is meaningless without U.S. backing. Netanyahu has already forfeited the support of the Democratic Party. He is taking it for granted that the Republican Party will obtain and retain power forever. That is a dubious bet.

    1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

      But that right is meaningless without U.S. backing.

      Please explain.

    2. Rick James   2 years ago

      Israel will be finished.

      Yes, from the river to the sea... it's been made abundantly clear.

    3. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

      If foreign aid ends tomorrow, there are any number of U.S. Citizens who will gladly send israel every caliber of ammunition and every kind of weapon they can buy, make, or 3-D print. And still others that will volunteer to go advise or fight. And they don't and won't give a shit about world opinion.

  34. mad.casual   2 years ago

    Mrs. Alito and the Bad Flag

    Call me back when she breaks parallel at the range.

    1. MK Ultra   2 years ago

      Worst punk rock cover band ever.

  35. Well Adjusted Biden Guy   2 years ago

    Beyond the stunning anecdote in which she revealed she once shot and killed her dog, Governor Kristi Noem’s (R-SD) new book has generated controversy over several stories reported to be completely inaccurate. Sunday on CBS’ Face the Nation, Margaret Brennan called her out over the reported inaccuracies — and the governor didn’t like it.

    Aww crap. Now Dear Leader is going to have to pick Senater Tim Scott. Instead of trying to sexually harass his VP now he’s going to deal with someone who has to pretend he’s interested in icky and smelly vaginas. What a let down.

    1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

      Odd, you use the same verbiage as another well-known troll here who managed to get his original handle permabanned, and now uses a “2” after his name.

      1. Bertram Guilfoyle   2 years ago

        "Senater" tim scott. Could he be more fucking transparent?

    2. Medulla Oblongata   2 years ago

      Are we sure this isn't a shrike sock?

  36. Moderation4ever   2 years ago

    Martha-Ann Alito's flying the flag upside down is more likely poor judgement than anything else, but the same can be said of Jenny's Thomas's texted on January 6th, or Fanni Willis's relationship with another attorney on the Georgia case. Can you honestly say that Trump cannot get a fair jury if Justice Alito and justice Thomas don't see a need to recuse on the January 6th cases. I like to see Judges, Justices and prosecutors use better personal judgement, but if they don't we need a single standard to hold them to and not a politically weighted sliding scale.

    1. Rick James   2 years ago

      If judges start recusing themselves because they have a personal interest in the case they're sitting in judgement of... there's going to be a whole lot of judges leaving the bench in Trump trials.

      1. DesigNate   2 years ago

        Don’t be silly, only judges who personally lean more towards Republicans should recuse themselves.

      2. mysmartstuffs   2 years ago

        I think it's much rarer than your making it out to be.

        Being political is very different than being an activist. And being perceived to support a conspiratorial and anti-democratic movement (stop the steal), shows a profound lack of judgement by her and lack of personal responsibility by her husband.

        It's unclear if he should have recused himself; that's why an investigation is usually merited in instance like this. But Alito even refuses to acknowledge the perceived bias and conflict. How does one be a modern libertarian and then accept an authoritarian perspective of our elites (president and SCOTUS)?

  37. Rev. Arthur L. Kirkland   2 years ago

    Alito’s work on Dobbs will cause a faux libertarian clinger like Wolfe to figuratively fellate Alito until the day one of them is replaced. By their betters.

    Carry on, clingers.

  38. mysmartstuffs   2 years ago

    How can you in one breath claim the flag was part of a political dispute, and then throw your hands up in understanding the meaning? It's obviously meant to represent stop the steal. How nihilistic and daft are you people?

    Regardless of she knew the full extent of the flags meaning, you still need to take responsibility for your actions. Alito shouldn't just blame his wife, but take responsibility of the perceived bias. It's absurd we have to lean in to this "plausible deniability" crap; no, take responsibility for your actions. Period.

    No different than Thomas, who should do the same.

    These people are not and should not be above ethical standards; no different than Trump himself. How can reason justify this clear authoritarian perspective with its libertarian ideology? It's absurd.

  39. GroundTruth   2 years ago

    Whether you're on the right or the left, a progressive or a libertarian, the blue field of stars on the US flag always goes in the top left corner, whether hung with stripes horizontal or vertical. There are a few specific exceptions to this, but being pissed off is not one of them.

    It's disrespectful when my progie neighbor does it, and it's disrespectful (and tone-deaf) when Mrs. Alito does it.

  40. MWAocdoc   2 years ago

    "All of this is instructive as legislators in the U.S. have passed a ban on the app"

    Liz, whether something is instructive or not depends on whether the audience is capable of being instructed. In the case of "legislators in the U.S." they are not capable of being instructed and so citing Taiwan as an example is an exercise in futility.

  41. MWAocdoc   2 years ago

    "Stop the Assads of the world, in realtime, when it matters; meaningfully protect the Uyghurs, even when it means bucking a superpower. Until you can actually do what it takes to bring safety to small and vulnerable peoples, the Israelis will be right and your great moral vocabularies will be no more than undeserved self-adulation."

    This "interesting thread" means more than it actually says, Liz. It assumes that practice must follow principles in order to be meaningful. There is at least one logical fallacy here - exclusion of the middle or, perhaps, false dichotomy - Americans have believed in two different principles that affect our stance towards Israel: American exceptionalism and making the world safe for democracy - which is dangerously wrong and impossible; and the other: avoid making war until the enemy makes it impossible by attacking you, then everyone volunteer to fight like hell to destroy that enemy and preserve your home and the independence of your people - World War Two as the latest example. Israel is right that the only safety they might have in this world is to hold onto the Jewish State and defend it with every resource available and, in my opinion, they have demonstrated the "avoid war until it is no longer avoidable" principle admirably. The Palestinians, at least the ones in Gaza, do not get to claim any moral high ground after ceding power to Hamas and, at least tacitly if not complicitly, sponsoring their nasty attack on innocent civilians last October.

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